It's All Gone WRONG | Budget Bike Battle Benidorm
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2019
- Will we ever make it to Benidorm? The lesson learnt here is; don't buy cheap guff from eBay...
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Don’t apologise lads!! It’s great content, gives a real insight into the drawbacks of buying a budget bike and James and the JHS crew are great value!!!
yep 100% agree
Yep! I know I'd rather see the pair of them knobbers fart around the track than be stuck at the side of the road. (Still think Perkins is trying to stitch you up Al!) :)
Yes!!
Wait for his prices to start creeping up as bbb condition bikes keep arriving in his workshop (this is a joke just incase someone gets annoyed)
Right? This is what makes the budget bike series so great - every moto journo channel gets perfect media bikes most of use can’t afford and takes them on these idyllic rides though advertiser country... these are always so great because it’s two normal blokes buying a couple of shitters and taking them on the kind of trips we actually do. Love it!
I love how Statham is getting more foul-mouthed the more pissed off he gets. 😂
I think those are the best videos when ya'll are In the garage with James. 👍 I wish I had a JHS racing here in Florida.
Next time I travel from my home in Miami to Keynsham I'll be sure to take a selfie at JHS Racing
Just ordered one of the BBB tshirts. Fingers crossed it doesn't fall apart like these pos bikes 😬😬😬
GSXR 1000 clutch lever switch. Had this very same issue on my K6 track bike some years ago and that was fixed by changing the switch... I saw the same issue on a SV1000 K7.
Sounds like the clutch lever switch indeed. The bike thinks you are pulling in the clutch lever so it lowers the Rev limiter to prevent idiots from revving it to high.
I had the same issue but with the stand switch on my SRAD 750 -98. Apparently the small metal bit that pushed on the switch had been bent through the years and the spring to hold the stand up had got a bit loose so when I revved to 7000 rpm the vibrations got to side stand and cut the power from time to time. But yeah, the clutch switch can also cause the problem.
Al: "You'll have to speak up."
James : "I haven't said anything yet."
LoL.
Buy cheap crap buy twice.
Love it, Budget Bike Battle... Quick shifters, R1M Master Cylinders and Calipers, Power Commanders, and an Ohlins hahaha... lol
Da real life battle, buck battle
erix last I am guilty lol. If not all true bikers, get any bike new or not, gotta add some sweet shit too it lol.
Boys like toyz 🤣🤘more power
All that and 9hp less than my old 98 zx9rc1 lol
Dominic Rivers Yeah, that R1 is a bit of a dog. Lol
The mechanic is proper star. He knows his bykes my lovver.
Shows how many “people” will flog any old crap to one another on the second hand market. Shameless.
they must have bought the cheapest ones they found doing so you gamble what you going to get...
That’s life. Buy brand new if you want less problems.
86andyw the clue is in the title...budget
@@alrightdave6135 Budget doesn't have to mean you have problems with them, tbh people on a budget wouldn't have touched either an R1 or a Gsxr
There is NO Way the Seller of the k6 didn't know about the issues... Its just a warning to test ride every used bike. The level of issue in that engine is.... That crosses the line, down on power... Not. Many. Could tell between 150 and 130tbh but the misfire is something else. The wheels is a bargaining chip that Al should have caught, the camchain and. Valves is somethin1g you find when delving into a bike so some of this is on them some is. On the Seller.
Should have got a sorted k4 rather than the k6 tbh. The issue with the uk market is even utter dogs like this suzuki are STILL 1500 quid. Stuff that would be a 100$ bike in the us goes for over a grand, its utterly crazy.
Respect to JHS. They've gone above and beyond on this BBB.
Those guys rock. They're funny and they know their stuff
I bought an old cbr that cut out at higher revs. Turned out to be varnished gas and corrosion from the tank that got into the fuel pump/filter and injectors. Had to replace the pump and clean the injectors. It's worked like a charm since, good luck
JAMES HOLLAND FOR PRIME MINISTER 🤣
Would be great if James bought a budget bike too. Seriously, the camaraderie between you all is reminiscent of peak Clarkson, Hammond and May. Would be amazing if a production company would pick you 3 up for a Top Gear style programme, pure gold. A lot of people watch Top Gear and don't have much interest in cars, I'm sure loads would watch you guys that aren't bikers, just for the banter!
I actually really enjoy watching you guys find out the issues with the bikes and then go about finding fixes for them :)
Half the fun of the BBB's is all the lead up to it. With getting the bikes ready for the trip. Always a great watch . Keep it up lads 👍🤙
20:56 Statham tries to let out a quiet fart. “Oops!”
Will buy a hoodie just for that moment. You sir, are a genius!
Oh!!! SHYT!!! IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THANK YOU GUYS
This channel is one of the reasons I have my R1M. Best entertainment I have found on TH-cam so far with the odd fact mixed in. Of to your store to bag myself some 44t merch. Keep the content coming gents. The banter between you pair and the JHS team is priceless 😂. Good luck with the GSXR interested to find out what’s wrong with it 👍
Please don't apologize, I think we all love these vids, James and the crew are very interesting to listen to, love the technical knowledge bits for someone who doesn't know anything like me. Love watching them try to solve these "puzzles", let's call it. Most important thing is that the bikes are good enough for you guys to actually enjoy the experience without them breaking down every 10 minutes, in the end it'll make everything better. I'm sure everyone else is also just into this regardless of what time you're leaving, can't wait for the next update on the gixxer.
Now this makes Monday bearable 👍🏻🇪🇸 looking forward to the rest of the videos
This is such an epic series! Love you guys!
I’ve ordered a hoodie. Liked the burnt orange logo colour. Not sure which will arrive first, the lads in Benidorm or my top.... 😳
Top top vlog guys. Hahaha, All
the banter! . Gearing up with my Benidorm bbb stuff for Xmas. Looking forward to more
Measure voltage drop and amperage draw through the rpm range and see if it drops significantly at the cutout rpm.
If it drops at that point ( from draw ) it could cut ( hard limit) but re-initialise as soon as voltage demand / load was off and keep doing that.
Worth checking anyway.
Use a live graph to measure the voltage load.
Cheap cowboy check...
Take bike battery off, hook a good car battery to bike terminals ( via jump leads ) run bike on dyno up to rpm you are getting the cutout, see if it's still there. If it's cured, buy a new decent bike battery with a good Ah rating.
Reasoning... Car batteries are same 12v voltage but can provide more amperage ( voltage flow ).
So using a car battery to check for testing negates an amperage feed drop/delivery issue that may be present in the original bike battery.
If issue has gone, get a new decent bike battery.
But..if bike STILL cuts out using car battery , next look at the voltage rectifier. (swap out for a good one if you have one).
Measure temperature of the oem one in use.
Rectifier fix for the likes of old Honda VFR was after getting a new one ( SUN branded OEM if you didn't want to pay Honda packet price )... Fit the new one using thermal paste between rectifier and mounting point, then add a 12v pc type fan on the cooling fins to Ummm.. keep it cool in use.
Heat is the killer of rectifiers.
Have 12v fan wired to come on when ignition is on.
Eh I see what you mean but amperage isn't exactly voltage flow
@@duckseverywhere8119
What is amperage then?
@@duckseverywhere8119 Isn't that exactly the definition of it? Voltage over resistance and there you have the amperage.
ARRGHHH
Exactly, lol, some people are confused.
Current flow = Amperage
That bit about the new set of wheels being bent gets me every time i re-watch this. Cheers!
Hey! I’m a subscriber from Benidorm, I ride an Sv 650, and would be more than happy to lend you a hand planning some nice routes around the area, and some nice places to take some cinematics (as I’m a hobby photographer as well). I’d be more than pleased to show that Benidorm and its surroundings, are just perfect to ride a bike! Just let me know!
What's it like being from Benidorm? Why don't you hate all English people?
Thing is I work in a hotel as well, so (thankfully) you meet a lot of English people, there’s a bit of everything. Trust me, there are more nice people, than not so nice ones. Elderly English people are the nicest ones, in terms of nationality, I’ve ever met 😂
And I can tell you if you visit Benidorm you’ll come back for sure, there’s plenty of things to take a look at around the area.
@@cristianibars3241 I'd say most of us are nice and polite, just occasionally very ignorant and noisy! 😂 I've never actually been to Benidorm but it doesn't really seem to be my kind of vibe. Last year I stayed in a little mountain village in Andalusia, it was pretty cool being away from all the touristy stuff but you'd definitely get bored if you didn't travel around whereas I imagine there's loads to keep you busy in Benidorm.
ARRGHHH you’ll never know if it’s your vibe if you don’t try it out! Give Benidorm a chance 😂
@@cristianibars3241 I've been to Benidorm loads of times on family holidays, stopped in Sol Pelicanos, Ambassador Playa and Club Medico 3 amongst other places. Also stayed in Alicante and Gran Alacant areas. It's all very nice and some really good biking roads around there.
I bloody love the BBB, I wish some production company or streaming service would pick you up 👍
If we have to wait a little then so be it, be worth the wait.
Brilliant as usual.
'...fragrant sent of Lynx Java...' - I spat my tea out! You've obviously bought a couple of wrong'uns so I've bought a T-Shirt to help out a little with the BBB kitty!
Keep up the great content. I quite like the fixing up the bikes part👍
I enjoy the content weve all seen bikes on the road vlogging etc etc. Seeing the background work you're putting in to projects is interesting and enjoyable
you lads cheer me up no end
James is gobsmacked about not putting in new pads... Al will regret later 😂
New member 🤪
Keep the quality coming! Thank you
Amazing video as always lads. I’m itching to see what that ecu does. Even the Mrs loves a good BBB episode 👌
Every single problem i've had with GSXRs have been because of bad rectifiers.
Was about to post have you checked the voltages around the bike, coil packs and fuel pump.
Me too, but with fuel injected Hondas. I got at least 2 dead batteries because of those
I've gone through a couple of my K4 600.
And generator also
I've had a few Yamahas over the years and all have needed at least one new rectifier. An old FZR 600 l had would just start stuttering at 7000 rpm. Kind of like a limiter.
I love your vids guys I’ve been waiting for this one 😬
Seen so many bike videos but BBB always come out on top!
Really looking forward to this one. Ive owned an extremely similiar R1
Great content. I’ve always entertained thoughts of buying an old sport bike to have as a rat track bike I don’t have to worry about binning. This makes me think twice...
All the build vids (at least) should have been introduced with “this video is sponsored by JHS” haha. Love the series!
Still a great idea and a great channel! Will watch everything you upload! :)
glad to see the battle is soon to begin guys
Amazed with all of your bike experience. What a a pair of lemons
What ever you guys do in terms of this trip is fine by me. I'm just happy that you guys will still be able to do it! although, this stuff makes me really nervous about my build that is on the same track as those.... Lots of moneyyyyyy. Cheers from the US
You guys are literally saving me from insanity while I'm stuck in South East Asia waiting for my wife's visa approval so we can get back to the UK. Gonna binge on your vids while I'm stuck in the jungle.. Awesome content. First time I've laughed out loud in ages
About time I've been checking my phone like 10 times a day for this 😂😂😂😂😂
Got the winter blues? I recommend a strong dose of 44Teeth once a day. Thanks for the content gents.
Hearing you guys are having problems makes me feel a little better from an experience I had not so long ago.. brought a GSXR 600 K2 for top money for its age.. (on condition it had a CLEAN MOT), had it shortly retested to FIND 12 major fails and an additional 13 minor advisories.. AND ONLY then to find the frame bent as well.. DVLA are taking action against the orginal MOT TEST CENTRE who did the clean MOT and I'm taking the person concerned to the small claim courts. Good luck with the trip guys.. hope ya have lots of fun and adventures for us to enjoy at a later stage.
The surprise near the end!! 😂😂
❤ I love rewatching these it's better than top gear repeats ❤
excellent... these guys at the garage are awesome! James - great! The funny thing is - you would belive this man that he knows realy very well what he is doing - output proves it as well.
Brilliant... So funny. Great banter. "hows the electric getting from one side of your bike to the other".. In stitches 🤣
Taking a day off work today and this popped up. Awesome!
Quack.. quack.. Kawasaki.. cough.. cough..
Spent my time rewatching all 9 episodes of Tour de Baron. Next, I will watch all the 24 Hour Challenge vids.
Budget bike with R1M parts seems fair...
To be fair, they're the worst part of an R1M.
iamtherealzombie Haha so true!
Wonder what brakes I should get for my 06 then?!
@@dancarlos1216 you can probably fond some brembo model for it
progste Yes but they are like $6-700. Actually I have R1 forks on a VFR800.
You guys are too funny but as soon as James looks into the camera, I fall out of my seat laughing my ass off. Even if I didn't like bikes I would still tune in. Thanks
You boys are well underrated. Well done.
I'd say it's either the ignition (maybe even inside the engine) or the fuel pump? Such a shame its so darn hard to find the cause! Keep looking and trying, eventually you guys will fix it!!!
Awesome video, made me laugh out loud as usual hahaha... Can't wait for more content, xx
Some 600 gixxers have side stand switch issues...all have fuel pump filter problems ( possibly injectors as well) good luck can't wait to see both bikes "On Track"
Love keeping up with these videos, keep em up! Would also like to know how much all this poking and prodding and fault finding would cost a normal punter, bet it would hurt 🤣
Love the R1 got 1 myself. I have had similar issues too I found that automatic choke was seized. I’ve had the head off mine due to seized spark plug snapping. Had loads of help off a very good friend.
Ordered two hoodies before you'd seen them 😂✌️ garage is awaiting its new arrivals 😎 this is gonna be a wicked series 👍👍👍
Bought a hoodie to put towards the Ohlins shock. Looking forward to this one!
#teamR1
got to run through the fuel system, pump and injectors are the next thing. it sounds like it was parked in a swamp with corrosion in the connections, so no expectation it was left standing with any care.
keep up the good work, this video was better than the entire bandit/hornet trip (imho)
James and his crew are class!
I guess James get a big pay package for this from that look after saying he'll go bankrupt if he works more on the R1 😂
Either that or he is being forced to do it for free 😂 😂
Great vid lads, will head on over and grab a t-shirt. Am I the only one who picked up on old mate’s Volts-Wagon joke? 😆
i love your whole series on budget bikes its so great to watch and really informative. I have an idea for the next budget bike series...hyperbikes?? The most famous and iconic motorbike of all time is the one and only Suzuki Hayabusa and the next best thing that beat the top speed of the Busa ..zx14 or the ZZR14. Chris could find a 2006-2008 first series Kawasaki as he likes these bikes and Fagan could find a 2nd generation, Busa. The views would go through the roof with these to bikes and you could settle the score once and for all which overall after a 3-4 day test is the best bike
I absolutely love James he's a legend ! Id rather it be done once done right and not fanning around good effort lads.
Watching you guys ride all the latest greatest bikes makes you REALLY appreciate them...
People say Ducatis have a bad reputation for maintenance?? OH MY GAAWWDD !!
(owned a 04, R1, it was amazing)
Sounds like a Secondary injector problem. Over 6k rpm and 70% throttle it should be running on the secondary injectors.
Check fuel pump for correct fuel pressure and flow, fuel line to secondary injectors all ok, crank sensor all ok, power to secondary injectors and grounds all ok.
Yep worth checking all them. Also check the exup valve
Completely understand the delay, which as you say isn't worth doing until they're properly "ready" to take the abuse you've got planned. Keep it up lads. The only ones moaning about the delay have clearly never worked on second hand bikes before. It's just the way it goes sometimes. Roll on the next updates........👊😎
Check the sidestand switch on the GSXR. I noticed the bike doesn’t have a sidestand, but has a stock loom. Typically the sidestand switch is bypassed in this case and the bypass often fails. Best of luck guys!
Rob Evans Bingo! Good chance it’s gone a miss.
At that mileage fuel pump or filter. Pressure down. love bike problems because it's such a good feeling when you fix it. Great content. This makes the budget bike battle for me.
My k5 would shut off at about 10k in 3rd ..barrrrpp then bang nothing and come back alive. I bypassed the side stand switch then found local dealer had mistimed it when doing valve clearances. Thank you for the great episodes.
Can I just say that the guys from JHS are the best. They love bikes and finding and sorting problems with their hands, eyes and ears. Proper mechanics.
Man, a $2 item driving you crazy! I had a similar experience where a $2 item had me going in circles for an entire summer. It was one o-ring in the carburetor seat on my ninja that had a tiny nick in it. The nick would let fuel pass in the no. 1 cylinder and cause a flooding that would prevent it from starting. I literally went through the bike at least twice a week for three months trying to find the problem. Finally I pulled every part again in the carbs, air box, intakes... an inspected everything with a magnifying glass and then found the nick in the o-ring. Call the local dealership, order the part, installed it, problem solved.
A friend of mine had his loom replaced on his k5 under warranty, it was blowing fuses all the time and the loom had rubbed through and was touching the frame up by the seat somewhere.
BBB, by far the best series..lmao at the issues.. Though I did Google the word ‘budget’ and couldn’t find the term ‘R1M’ anywhere.. lol
This is an absolute lesson in 'buyer beware' x 2.. Repeat after me, "Never ever buy a bike off Ebay " unless you have access to a top notch mechanic - JHS what a star
I had an issue with the 2002 Hornet cutting off at 10K. After checking everything else and almost giving up, it turned out to be some relay that was put in the loom between the ECU and the on/off switch. It was there for an aftermarket alarm system that I had removed, but it was taped so much and spliced good, that it looked original, so I didn't suspect. I was so happy after I tested it on the highway the first time and it got all the way to the red line, literally screaming in my helmet.
Having never owned a Suzuki, nor have much of a mechanical mind, I've absolutely no idea what's wrong with it, I hope that helps! Good luck though, I'm sure the JHS gang will have it sorted!
by the sounds of your high end misfire its probably low fuel pressure have you put a fuel pressure gauge on it to check?(fuel filter trapped hoses duff pump)
The problem with the gixxer could be with the fuel strainer in the bottom of the tank with years of gunk and the vacuum lines off the throttle body. Take the original vacuum lines off and use them as a template for the new one. Don't bother trying to clean and reuse any hose or t-junctions, just replace them. Good luck!
Get more entertainment from buying the shitters though.
Great respect for the Mechanic and he’s funny.love to have that knowledge in my brain.
As a motorcycle technician, not checking vacuum hoses to start with and just chucking money at it is a rookie mistake
Love seeing the mechanical side of things in these videos. Also, my hoodie arrived last week, but I have a small issue. It seems to attract all the fellas and I'm having to dodge jizz missiles every time I wear it
Had to rewind when I thought you said PLENTY OF GLORIOUS GUNTS ON SHOW.
I had a fireblade that used to cut out at High RPM, turned out every time you put the tank down it crimped the fuel hose and starved the bike under high fuel demands, I also changed out the fuel pump just in-case and ran sweet after that.
Have you guys checked the kickstand switch? Sometimes the high revs will cause the kickstand to vibrate and lose contact with the switch.
Is it just me or is the buying, fixing and arguing about the bikes better than the journey on BBB? 😂
Had something similar on a GSXR 99 turned out to be the fuel rail pressure not being high enough. Worth a look..
Check fuel pump and fuel pump lines. Had similar issue on my K4, turned out to be a cracked fuel pump hose inside the tank, when the revs get up there and the draw on the pump increased the pressure caused the crack to open up, only generally happened at 9k revs but sporadically.
I had a very similar issue on a k4 750. Turned out to be the servo for the butterfly valves. Broken soldered connection. Sometimes the valves opened, sometimes the didn't. Started as an FI fault. Good old peice of cable to short the connections, and I think the faults were c19 and c27. Anyway, dab of solder and she ran strong. Symptoms were almost identical. Hit 7k ish rpm, and it shit the bed, went in to limp mode and wouldn't get past kinda 4 or 5k rpm and blew rather large flames from the exhaust.
Love the shots of 'benidorm' feckin brilliant 🤣
Had a similar issue on a k6 1000 I bought from Copart for a track bike build. Turned out to just be bad fuel pump.
Wow that R1 looks stunning
@44teeth check that the tipover switch is secured really well. Had this happen to mine & it was the tipover switch. The tab for the switch was broken so when the bike got up in the revs it would vibrate out of position & bike would cut off
Loose Connection on the ignition lock through vibration at high RPMs?...