How LETHAL is a 12 Gauge Mini Shell??? (Shockwave 590s vs Human Torso)

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  • How Effective is a 12 Gauge Mini Shell??? Today we find out with the Mossberg Shockwave 590s & a Ballistic Dummy Lab Torso!
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  • @1ShotTV
    @1ShotTV  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

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    • @cowsmowmygrass
      @cowsmowmygrass 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      How much do the mannequin cost?
      Seems like expensive target practice, but EXTREMELY impressive.

    • @johncoleman2495
      @johncoleman2495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@cowsmowmygrass about $2700

    • @alfasierra254
      @alfasierra254 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I know it's not important and you can say it however you want but Águila is Eagle in Spanish and the force of pronunciation goes in the first Á gee la. Love your work! Greetings from Kennesaw Ga.

    • @VroomNBoom
      @VroomNBoom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      #4 buck is an awesome round full sized or fun sized tbh I prefer it over 00 buck

    • @Exandria
      @Exandria 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can we PLEASE get a video of you using the 22tcm on a ballistic dummy labs dummy? Im so curious to see what it does with the hydrostatic shock. I would do it, but I don’t have enough disposable income to buy a torso with a head.
      P.s. it would be interesting to see the torso with and without level 2 armor!!

  • @Jasmine-pq5qu
    @Jasmine-pq5qu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +702

    For everyone that wondering, the ballistics zombie torso cost $2700

    • @Swishersweetcigarilo
      @Swishersweetcigarilo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      Holy shit really?

    • @PrimericanIdol
      @PrimericanIdol 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      That's preposterous

    • @warrenharrison9490
      @warrenharrison9490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      They've gone up a little.

    • @PrimericanIdol
      @PrimericanIdol 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@nightcat87 Who in their right mind would shoot their gun? They're valuable objects. You should never use them as targets. 🤣

    • @Nope-ik8wv
      @Nope-ik8wv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      @@PrimericanIdolfor $2700 for a torso you might as well shoot a gun lol

  • @Jay_Sullivan
    @Jay_Sullivan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    This might be the most important lethality test I've ever seen. Aside from some of the range tests, I typically watch purely for entertainment. This is one that's actually important for my decision-making. It's good to know that you can increase your ammo count and still be pretty devastating if they're not wearing a lot of clothing.

  • @Adam-nv9zo
    @Adam-nv9zo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    I'd say mini shells are definitely a viable round as long as your tool will run them. Great video, as always.

    • @luckyluck9604
      @luckyluck9604 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Might be even lethal 😉

    • @Kinetic.44
      @Kinetic.44 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The whole point of a shotgun is max payload, maximum one shot stop potential. These mini shells do the opposite.

    • @Adam-nv9zo
      @Adam-nv9zo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @user-mv7bb2ls3l That's why I said "viable" as opposed to optimal.

    • @zanegardner6488
      @zanegardner6488 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@user-mv7bb2ls3l agreed. Never seen the interest in them

    • @YacolJ
      @YacolJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      ​@@Kinetic.44Maybe for you. Most people want the versatility of the shotgun. My son only owns 1 gun, a Mossberg 500. He can hunt with birdshot. He can shoot slugs like a rifle. He can use buckshot for self defense. Hell I just wish that they had the 590s when I bought his shotgun.

  • @warrenharrison9490
    @warrenharrison9490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    For those that already have Mossberg 500, 500A, 500B, 500AB... As long as there are grooves in bottom of receiver in front of trigger assembly at the shell loading port you can install a DEFENDER TACTICAL CARTRIDGE ADAPTER it will allow your shotgun to cycle mini, 2-3/4" and 3" shells.
    @defender tactical

    • @dustinbrown7246
      @dustinbrown7246 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Adapter? I shot all of those in my delta 88 fresh out of the box

    • @PrayingPanda
      @PrayingPanda 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The Defender Tactical Universal Shell Loader is definitely a better buy with a 590 Shockwave than the 590s Shockwave. That little piece on the 590s can pop off. And while the opsol adapter is cheap, it also must be taken out to use 2 3/4 or 3 inch shell. The defender tactical doesn't have to be taken out.

    • @robertkeller9828
      @robertkeller9828 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      DELTA 88? Never heard of that one. That being said, WHERE are you finding 1.75 shells? Everytime I check, Bass Pro, Wally World, Academy, Sportsmans Warehouse, my local gun shops, NO ONE has anything! Even Federal's website shows out-of-stock. Aguila are just STOOPID expensive if you can fund them!
      Btw, the Oppsol Adapter ain't cutting it. The Critical Defense full adapter kit is much better functioning BUT I have questions about longevity.
      Aa I mentioned earlier, it's just better to skip these shot grip "novelties" and go with a standard shoulder stock shooting readily available and CHEAPER 2.75 loads.
      My BEAR CREEK ARSENAL 7.5 AR Pistol in 300 AAC is my GO-TOO home defense now and will soon have a "can" to go with it.

    • @dustinbrown7246
      @dustinbrown7246 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@robertkeller9828 my apologies. A maverick 88.a delta 88 is an oldsmobile

    • @M81_WOODLAND
      @M81_WOODLAND 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@dustinbrown7246I mean, an Olds Delta 88 is an effective 2-ton weapon, as well. 😆💀

  • @jamesforehand8181
    @jamesforehand8181 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    I have a 20 gauge shockwave that I love, being in my 70’s with arthritis the 20 works just fine and causes enough damage for home defense though with full size shells

    • @Mr_Zimm
      @Mr_Zimm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What are you running through a 20ga for home defesne?

    • @jamesforehand8181
      @jamesforehand8181 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Mr_Zimm #3 buck and slugs

    • @yoshiike1
      @yoshiike1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Perfect ​@@jamesforehand8181

    • @taasch2505
      @taasch2505 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@jamesforehand8181I've had an affordable Mossberg Maverick 88 in 20 gauge since my 19th Birthday (I'm 34 now). I've only every shot 25 or 30 rounds through it. But I'm considering going and finally putting some rounds down range with it again (was taken aback by the felt recoil and had bad memories). I have 3 boxes of Remington #3 buckshot as well. I don't have slugs because I live in a townhouse and that seems nightmarish for me. I do keep a .40 next to my bed with 3 loaded magazines and mounted light/laser. But I think a long gun should be my go to if possible. I took off the 26" barrel and put on an 18.5" barrel. Gotta see how it runs.

    • @philgoodpaster3161
      @philgoodpaster3161 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Mr_Zimm I'm 78. I run #1 Buck in my 20 gauge Shockwave. Plenty of power.

  • @averycooper427
    @averycooper427 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I actually like that you used the mini #4 to see that deep penetration without pass-thru, makes for a more logical home defense when you live in a multi-unit complex. Most tell me to use my 9mm but I know that will punch through all kinds of stuff and worries me, and clearly so will even mini slugs lol.

  • @crankygunreviews
    @crankygunreviews 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    The minishells are basically regular 2 3/4 shells without the cushion part of the wad. Ones I have shot did not feel like they had much less recoil, if they do it's maybe because they're only like 1200 fps versus 1600 fps of full size loads. I make my own minishells in 12 gauge and 20 gauge.

    • @bobbybush1750
      @bobbybush1750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I want to get into pressing my own shells, any tips on doing the minishells?

    • @bertkilborne6464
      @bertkilborne6464 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobbybush1750 It's easy - look up Ballistic Products

    • @bertkilborne6464
      @bertkilborne6464 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobbybush1750 Or Bubba Rountree Outdoors

    • @SinOjosWeb
      @SinOjosWeb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GeorgiaRidgerunner Go back to your woke basement in yer mommies house. You are wrong in every aspect.

    • @meuclone
      @meuclone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, zip regular shells to minishells. Tkns.

  • @Faithful_Solaire
    @Faithful_Solaire 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I’m pretty impressed with the #4 mini. Looks like it does plenty of damage without having to worry much about over penetration.

  • @opossom1968
    @opossom1968 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    i like it. number 4 mini is great for keeping the down range safer in a neighborhood setting. Also i enjoy the thought of the doctor having to dig the rounds out of the perp. I want them to keep what i gave. Leave that hot metal in there to burn more.

  • @rangetime6779
    @rangetime6779 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Great video! Entertaining and informative. I think the mini shell slugs will penetrate more than a 2 3/4" because they're too slow to expand. They all worked well (except the birdshot). That #4 buckshot might be perfect for places where over penetration is a concern. Thanks for your efforts.

  • @zanegardner6488
    @zanegardner6488 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Buckshot may be one of my favorite rounds ever. Just love it

  • @dantedamean
    @dantedamean 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Would love to see this with different barriers like car windshield or a wood door, ect.

    • @martinswiney2192
      @martinswiney2192 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      If by ect. you mean politicians im with you on that. Politician penetration test.

    • @JohnB-dr8sk
      @JohnB-dr8sk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Paul Harrell showed how the Federal 1oz Shorty Slug was as powerful as a standard full size Remington 1oz Managed Recoil Slug (1200 FPS). So despite how small it looks, the Federal Shorty Slug is just a regular 12 Gauge Low Recoil Slug in a smaller size.

    • @martinswiney2192
      @martinswiney2192 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@JohnB-dr8sk i keep my Shockwave stoked with mini slugs, holds 8 in the mag. They are lighter and a bit slower than a standard 2 3/4” slug but the ballistics on the Aquila slug equal out to the same as two 45 acp 230gr bullets hitting at the same time. I figure that should be sufficient for most social situations gone wrong.

    • @MaxPower-ke5rq
      @MaxPower-ke5rq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@martinswiney2192 “social situations gone wrong” 😂 I like that! Within conversation range no doubt

    • @JohnB-dr8sk
      @JohnB-dr8sk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@martinswiney2192 Those Aguilas are definitely powerful, though I believe they are 3 times more powerful than a 45 ACP based on 400 ft lbs of energy. The Federal Shorty Slugs put out 1400 ft lbs of energy and because they are the shortest of the all the mini-shells, you can put 9 in a Mossberg Shockwave or 500/88. But yeah, if those Aguila slugs are working for you they are also thumpers no doubt. I just like the Federal Shorties because of the ability to load 9 and I also find them a lot more accurate than the Aguilas.

  • @williamhoppe4500
    @williamhoppe4500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    That headshot was a "No Brainer."😂

    • @andyleotell
      @andyleotell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ha!

    • @baomao7243
      @baomao7243 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thoughtless remark

    • @andyleotell
      @andyleotell หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@baomao7243 ha

    • @baomao7243
      @baomao7243 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@andyleotell All good.
      In one ear, and out the other.

  • @Steelcity77
    @Steelcity77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I've been waiting for this video for a long time, I run 9+1 Aguila mini buck in my mossberg 500.
    Thanks for the awesome video, and I definitely feel confident running them now.👍🏼

    • @HWG-wm8ld
      @HWG-wm8ld 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huntin turkey?

    • @Steelcity77
      @Steelcity77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@HWG-wm8ld Turkey's that break into my home, yes. I have an 18.5 inch 500 mariner, this isn't pappy's huntin shotgun. It's also just back up, I have rifles for my go to.

    • @warrenharrison9490
      @warrenharrison9490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Mini shells in a BDL torso is something I don't recall any other guntuber trying. Glad it's finally been done. Taking notes.

  • @FierceMouse
    @FierceMouse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Defender Tactical makes an adapter that turns every mossberg into a shortshell/longshell eater.
    Thier product is better than Mossberg's manufacturer design in my experience. 25 bones right now, and cones with aluminum follower

    • @texaspatriot9159
      @texaspatriot9159 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes sir!!

    • @MrAlphapug
      @MrAlphapug 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Works great in my 500. No need to take a rubber stopper in and out. 👍🏼

    • @jamesk0ua
      @jamesk0ua 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On your advice I ordered one. Tnx.

    • @FierceMouse
      @FierceMouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesk0ua- You won't be disappointed

    • @donausmus4281
      @donausmus4281 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree! Much more robust than the factory unit.

  • @CamBridge-ii9mu
    @CamBridge-ii9mu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Paul Harrell mentioned by another person. He pretty much showed that birdshot can be used for home defense but only at short ranges. With his meat targets.

    • @christopherbishop4927
      @christopherbishop4927 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Even the hole this video shows that mini birdshot made would stop 99% of any threatening attackers,
      and just might keep the Defender out of prison
      But no this guy is going to use 3" 00 Buck, decimating the attacker and most anything behind them !

    • @lancehobbs8012
      @lancehobbs8012 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Home defense at short range. Im trying to Imagine a home SO big with rooms SO big that you need long range weapons

    • @abettermind
      @abettermind 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've used birdshot on about every material you can imagine. It is absolutely not a good choice for home defense.
      Better than nothing, I suppose, but relying on pain and surprise to protect you is a fools game.

    • @abettermind
      @abettermind 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@christopherbishop4927 That wasn't bird shot. Bird shot is absolutely pathetic unless you're putting your barrel basically against the target. If you're that close, you've already done a lot of things wrong and should probably use a better weapon.

    • @bradd8383
      @bradd8383 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know a fella that shot a man and killed him with birdshot in NY he keep pestering the guy and he blasted him​@@abettermind

  • @johnphillips3703
    @johnphillips3703 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice to see what the mini shells can do. I have neighbors close to me so I need something that will make people think twice but not go thru too many walls

  • @markteaney8381
    @markteaney8381 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This you had showed how the mini shells cycle. All the rest was great thanks for your time and $$$. Happy new year.

  • @whatsupchris
    @whatsupchris 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved the torso delivery !!! keep them coming .

  • @Tesla1254
    @Tesla1254 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Excellent video! I was considering loading up one of my shotguns w/mini-shells, as my wife is... "Recoil-Sensitive". I appreciate you taking the time to share this. 😎👍 (Side-Note: The liver is located in the upper-right quadrant of a person's abdomen.)

  • @luisarroliga8456
    @luisarroliga8456 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Another excellent video as always. Just an idea, if you have not thrown away the ballistic dummy take a couple of shots of #4 buck to the right shoulder and bird shot to the left. You should be able to see the individual performance from each round since the shoulder is so clear & meaty. Loving your content, keep up the great work. From your loyal viewers down in America's mullet (South Florida) lol.👍

  • @andrewcheff4035
    @andrewcheff4035 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for showing the versatility of the mini shells! I have a 20” IC I thought the #4 would work decent from. Now I feel like that is what I will load for bump in the night scenario!

  • @brandoncooper4868
    @brandoncooper4868 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First time seeing someone test this that way, thanks

  • @timg7627
    @timg7627 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Good video.
    I just wish the mini shells were less expensive and also more readily available

    • @josiaheck4865
      @josiaheck4865 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was searching for a few months myself. Found some mini bird, buck, and slugs on Optics Planet (back ordered, but I got em before too long).
      Also recently been seeing mini slugs on Bulk Ammo, if all places.
      Tons of fun with a KSG, happy searching : D

    • @gjhoward
      @gjhoward 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My rule of thumb with mini shells is if I see them in stock, I buy them. Money be damned.

    • @jamesk0ua
      @jamesk0ua 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I ordered some last night from MidwayUSA

    • @mjohnson6703
      @mjohnson6703 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't cycle well. They jam the gun.

    • @gjhoward
      @gjhoward หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mjohnson6703 They do if you use a Mossberg with a Defender Tactical shell adapter.

  • @KapteinFruit
    @KapteinFruit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    We need to see the explosive hollow point slugs with these tiny shells!

    • @Kinetic.44
      @Kinetic.44 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's definitely the only way they would expand at fragment at this low velocity. They usually need 1600 fps to do their trick.

    • @lekerstobalgo698
      @lekerstobalgo698 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Kinetic.44hollow all-copper split bullets seem to open up at subsonic speeds

    • @Kinetic.44
      @Kinetic.44 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lekerstobalgo698 That is a good point, i was only talking about the standard 1 oz lead hollowpoint rifled Foster slug. The kind of slugs you are talking about are generally in a sabot require a rifled barrel for good accuracy, or at least a rifled choke tube, but not always with an attached wad design and the required accuracy standard in relation to your target size and distance.

  • @adoptdontshop3916
    @adoptdontshop3916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have the original 590s 20 inche/choke. Ran multiple shells and mix/match in the tube and never failed.
    Great Video! I know I'm biased because I am, can't never go wrong with a Mossberg.
    Cheers mate!

  • @guns4freedom
    @guns4freedom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome. I've been wondering this for awhile now.

  • @peterreily1490
    @peterreily1490 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lucky gunner just did a test. In gel. On a few different loads.
    Mini shells in pellets fall between 8-13” with most being 9-11” in clear gel.
    You need 00 buckshot that doesn’t have those pre split pellets. The #4 buckshot was weak. The slug straight through both blocks.

    • @bobjohnson1633
      @bobjohnson1633 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's nonsense. The #4 would cause a devastating wound that would drain you very quickly. These aren't 9mm baby bullets from a Glock.

  • @BrokenBarBox
    @BrokenBarBox 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love the way you rack the slide. You look just like Sarah Connor in Terminator 2. So cool!

  • @stephenaddair
    @stephenaddair 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never saw any info on mini shells and never tried them so cool to watch this

  • @scottmcclellan6886
    @scottmcclellan6886 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the videos. Definitely high quality content 💯

  • @larry1754
    @larry1754 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just tonight found this video, thank you so much for posting it! I have the original Shockwave 590, and have always felt that it's real purpose is to be fired from the waist! As in close quarter combat... clearing buildings, moving in and out of hallways, around interior corners, naturally held at waist level for the mobility to do that. You aren't going to sweep a building with this gun held up to your head, so why would you take the extra time it takes, in a super quick life-or-death situation, to bring your Shockwave up to your head, aim, then fire? A shotgun is for close quarter engagement, if the target is maybe 20 ft from you, and you cannot hit it holding this gun at waist level, laser or not, maybe more practice with it is needed! And for home defense, I also think mini-shells are perfect. Much less chance of over penetration, and one or two 00 buckshot mini shells in an attacker will definately slow him down, let alone stop him!

  • @jacka55six60
    @jacka55six60 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Even with heavy clothing a close range hit with bird shot would be like taking a full swing of a sledge hammer to your chest.

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty good option. Thank you.

  • @squatch2003
    @squatch2003 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, your videos are the best! Love it!

  • @onofframp
    @onofframp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Well, I can see the benefit of the laser. Gonna get one. Great video!

    • @jakejones4801
      @jakejones4801 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      May seem like a silly question, but, where is the laser mounted? Am I just blind 😅

    • @onofframp
      @onofframp 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jakejones4801 It fits over the saddle and down the right side of the grip. easily activated with the trigger finger if you are right handed. I recommend it strongly as aiming our guns is a bit risky.

  • @rschris
    @rschris 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Oh man, awesome video. Hey next time you do the torso test, can you put a t shirt and a cheap jacket on the torso. Just to see what effect that clothing would have on the rounds entering the torso. But another great video keep them coming !!

    • @1ShotTV
      @1ShotTV  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep good idea. We won’t be able to see the impact on camera as well but that would be more realistic

    • @hardtbrett
      @hardtbrett 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@1ShotTVhang the closes only in the front and do filming from the side👋🏻👍🏻

  • @irafowlerjr.7492
    @irafowlerjr.7492 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic info, thanks

  • @markfrank5937
    @markfrank5937 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the mini shells for home defense. Great video.

  • @sisleymichael
    @sisleymichael 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am not into shotguns without a butt stock. I'm 65 and it works best for me to have a stock. I feel extremely confident operating that way. I was given one of the very first Mossberg's in 12ga that had a pistol grip and short barrel via a death in the family and the family was getting rid of the fellow's stuff. I found a folding stock with built in ammo carrier to replace the pistol grip. Replaced the fore end with one with a built-in light. Slapped a HiViz over the barrel sight on it. It is a decent little gun now. I use 00-buck 2&3/4 ammo. It works fine out to about 20-25yds for best results, more than what its purpose is. I get the utility of the mini shells. Were I in a situation where penetration was a critical concern, I would get a Mossberg made to handle those shells. It could be quite viable.

    • @bobjohnson1633
      @bobjohnson1633 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You might consider getting an adapter and loading minis for home defense in coming years. Great potency and low recoil.

    • @sisleymichael
      @sisleymichael 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bobjohnson1633 I live very rural in south Texas, 60 miles from the border. Regular shells are fine for this environment. It is my wife and myself. My nearest neighbor is way on down a dirt road.

    • @bobjohnson1633
      @bobjohnson1633 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sisleymichael I'm making the 9mm argument. It generally gets the job done, eventually, and it is easier to shoot, period. It also has a much higher capacity.

    • @sisleymichael
      @sisleymichael 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobjohnson1633 I don't have a 9mm in a long gun. If folks have them and like them, that is great. I know they work. Budget constraints prevent new weapons purchases with cattle prices in the toilet. (the packing companies are making bank, go figure.) I have the shotgun, used them for decades, and never had recoil aversion issues. Nothing can dispense lethality like a shotgun at close ranges for in the house ranges. For outside on the ranch at night? I take an AR, with light, body armor, extra mags, and a G19 with a light, a couple extra mags.

  • @dominiquegaming155
    @dominiquegaming155 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think I'll add that shotgun to my zombie apocalypse collection

    • @gjhoward
      @gjhoward 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Save some money and get a regular Shockwave and a Defender Tactical adapter.

  • @327Federal
    @327Federal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love all your videos!

  • @jackseditzzz
    @jackseditzzz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ay man we missed you, keep up the great work and keep doing what you move!

  • @oubliette862
    @oubliette862 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    would you be willing to do a comparison between the different types of ballistic gel? there's archery blocks knife throwing gel the stuff for guns that spoils and has to be cold the clear stuff that doesn't spoil then the different densities. is there really any practical difference between them? there certainly is a cost difference.

  • @will6334
    @will6334 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Took one look at the woox furniture and had to have it. Just installed on my shockwave. Got a crimson trace laser and original power sling.

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video thanks for sharing

  • @ricardogoodman1750
    @ricardogoodman1750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome demonstive video very informative 👍👍

  • @arapahoetactical7749
    @arapahoetactical7749 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Good work overall. I usually turn to Paul Harrell for these types of videos, but he doesn't take the mini shell or the Shockwave seriously. I've felt from the beginning that these could be very effective home defenders with the right ammo and the combination of the mini shell buck shot with the Shockwave platform is just about as good as you could ask for in a small home or apartment where over penetration could be an issue. I've also found that running a Weapon Mounted Light on the Shockwave platform is vital for target ID and also makes a wicked fast aiming aid after sundown. Much faster than the laser after dark.

    • @bonjovi2757
      @bonjovi2757 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Get both. I have both on my 590s shockwave. Green laser and streamlight fore end. Loaded with 8, #4 buck mini shells is a formidable home defense tool.

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I use a laser with a dot-and-ring on my home shotgun. It has a light as a bonus, but it's way too bright in my opinion. Temporarily blinding myself at the same time I let an intruder know exactly where I am and give them a nice aiming point seems like a terrible idea.
      I saw an "expert" who was showing how to clear your house and his method was to flash his light on and off really fast every time he reached a corner, which is about the dumbest thing you can possibly do. Ruin your night vision, put afterimages in it, and let intruders know you're coming and where you are all at once!

    • @bertkilborne6464
      @bertkilborne6464 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The shockwave and #4 buck minis are a combo that are made for each other.
      It's a practical setup for home.
      The minis are simple to handload too - just get a roll crimper and you can use a nail and a dowell to remove and re-seat a fresh primer.
      In Cali the 14" barrel is verboten, but there's the 18.5"
      My Sig Romeo Red Dot needs to be sent back for warranty work because it stopped

    • @markteaney8381
      @markteaney8381 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the light ideal just bought a shockwave.

    • @bryanbrowning5746
      @bryanbrowning5746 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I don’t run lights on my firearms, because you have to point the weapon to use the light. If you were to hear a bump in the night, and use your weapon mounted light, you are automatically engaging your target, and if it’s not a foe(like a roommate, or family member), even if you don’t shoot them, it can be considered menacing. Mas Ayoob covers that subject on the Wilson Combat channel, and has strongly recommended against weapon lights for many years.

  • @SpyrosAdventures
    @SpyrosAdventures 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Pretty cool idea. Do cut shells next compared to their non cut counter parts

  • @turbobarbarazo
    @turbobarbarazo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You was having a lot of fun that day🎉🎉

  • @rudypeev
    @rudypeev 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank You for the great demo And the discount code for the Woox hardware!

  • @robertcartledge8036
    @robertcartledge8036 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How much different is the recoil between the shot and full-size shells?

    • @stanbarrington
      @stanbarrington 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its a BIG difference!

  • @brandiwynter
    @brandiwynter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Those shockwave shotguns are fun range toys but choosing one for home defense would be a terrible idea unless you live in a phone booth. That high dollar wood stock version is definitely cool looking.

    • @jpoeng
      @jpoeng 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you stupid? With a little bit of practice my TAC-13’s are handier than my longer guns in close quarters.
      I run it with a demonstrated concepts grip strap and high rise red dot.

    • @ltx383
      @ltx383 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Almost as terrible as not having one. Any firearm is a force multiplier over hands.

    • @brandiwynter
      @brandiwynter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ltx383 You're missing the point. If you need a home defense weapon, and most should, the Shockwave is a terrible choice. Any reliable, inexpensive full stock shotgun is a far, far, far better choice if you want a shotgun for that purpose. Personally I think an AR is a better choice but others prefer shotguns. It's fine to have a Shockwave style shotgun but it shouldn't be your primary HD gun and should be purchased after you've purchased a good home defense gun.

    • @ltx383
      @ltx383 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brandiwynterCall of Duty has made everyone an expert on home defense. The point is would you rather take on an intruder with your bare fist or a shockwave? You have what you have not what the best choice is.

    • @brandiwynter
      @brandiwynter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ltx383 my point exactly, it's better than a sharp stick but way worse than a shoulder mounted shotgun. If you're going to buy a gun for home defense, choose the best option possible. Choosing a Shockwave over an 870 or any host of similar shotguns is a very bad idea. By all means buy one as your second gun if you want but don't buy one as your first choice for defense because they are much, much better choices for that use. The shockwave is better than nothing but it's still a really bad choice for home defense so when videos make them seem otherwise it's worth mentioning that they are not.
      Oh and FYI, I've never played call of duty. I learned what I know as a police officer doing real building searches looking for real bad guys with real guns and in real life it's real scary. You don't want a hip fired short shotgun with poor accuracy and even worse ammo capacity when your life and the life of your family is in danger.

  • @MrHiggsrocks
    @MrHiggsrocks 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Head Explosion sold me.. That was sick 😈 man that was some killer slow motion footage💯💪🏻 Respect

  • @rogerwhiteway971
    @rogerwhiteway971 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for the demonstration i use the mini's in my keltec ksg

  • @JesterJocular
    @JesterJocular 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Next time you use a ballistic dummy, put a few T-shirts on it to mimic how clothing might affect a given shot

  • @tommyapocalypse6096
    @tommyapocalypse6096 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    How are the different ammo types at penetrating clothing before entering the body? It's not like we might be shooting at nekkid zombies - especially in colder weather, right?

    • @ltx383
      @ltx383 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Won’t change much.

  • @klimismistakidis1482
    @klimismistakidis1482 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, I enjoyed it as much as you 😊

  • @abrahampshat8095
    @abrahampshat8095 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done young man 👍

  • @ReubenOaks84
    @ReubenOaks84 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The point blank shots look cool, but it really doesn't illustrate penetration, I'd like to see this same test at 25 and 50 yards to see the energy and penetration at distance. I have mini slugs and buckshot, but I would not consider using them for serious situations.

    • @Kinetic.44
      @Kinetic.44 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's testing them for close range self defense in the home, not hunting, not as a duty round.

    • @johncoleman2495
      @johncoleman2495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The shot rounds are absolutely pathetic at range. The payload is too small and pattern density sucks. The slugs are what they are....lighter and slower. So less effective range, less kinetic energy and less penetration. They are nothing more than something to play with at the range. As my comment above says, You're giving up a portion of the reason for choosing a shotgun to begin with.....power! Same goes for these stupid little stockless "shotguns" they give up not only power, but also the ability to get fast accurate shots on target.

    • @Kinetic.44
      @Kinetic.44 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You guys know what a shotgun choke is?

    • @johncoleman2495
      @johncoleman2495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kinetic.44 do you know chokes aren't meant for buckshot?

    • @ltx383
      @ltx383 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This weapon isn’t intended to take shots at 25 to 50 yards lol. Most won’t take those shots with a full length barrel. This is an up and close tool.

  • @halfcirclehranch6877
    @halfcirclehranch6877 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On your first shot on the torso, the laser totally told on you. You pulled the shot left. Your laser point moved to the left just before firing.

  • @cesarramirez9426
    @cesarramirez9426 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What you displayed with the mini-slug was a hit execution 😂😂😂

  • @teazy1088
    @teazy1088 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the video I’ve been wanting to see for the last 6 months.

  • @jumpingjacks5558
    @jumpingjacks5558 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Just to be clear, birdshot at that close of range will be a devastating round to your attacker. Never underestimate any kind of shot in a shotgun shell.

    • @greggood6824
      @greggood6824 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No one's saying it won't fuck you up, just saying its not a good option when way better rounds are available.

    • @jumpingjacks5558
      @jumpingjacks5558 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with you@@greggood6824

  • @johncoleman2495
    @johncoleman2495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Mini shells are a range toy and a gimmick. You're giving up a portion the major reason for choosing a 12 gauge to begin with. That's power! The other reason for me to totally dismiss them for any serious use is they're unreliable in almost every gun. I don't care what everyone is going to say, the only gun I've ever seen cycle them with even marginal reliability was a friends 500 with the adapter and it still was finicky. My 590 with the adapter was totally unreliable.

    • @zodaguado6655
      @zodaguado6655 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      590s has a built in adapter

    • @johncoleman2495
      @johncoleman2495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zodaguado6655 mine is 25 years old🤣 so it doesn't

    • @johncoleman2495
      @johncoleman2495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zodaguado6655 also doesn't make it useful

    • @zodaguado6655
      @zodaguado6655 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@johncoleman2495 nah man, they are fun trust me,,, recoil is nonexistent…. My daughter handles it no problem, it can still take down any human on this earth

    • @johncoleman2495
      @johncoleman2495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zodaguado6655 I've shot them....waste of money! They're as or more expensive than actual 12 gauge and weak....the pattern density sucks from low pellet count, the energy sucks and the don't function for shit. Gimmick garbage

  • @ckoritko
    @ckoritko 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love mine. Quite sufficient for home defense or a trunk gun when I’m on the road.

  • @davetrevino1361
    @davetrevino1361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect timing on this review. Have a 500 cruiser I'm refurbing and have the little rubber insert to cycle the mini's. Long mag tube so longer gun but a ton of rounds. Think I'd load up the #4 (really would like a 00 option, but would have to be just a few pellets). Just rack fast 'cause one will almost certainly do the job 2 (if needed) would finish anyone determined enough to try to shake of the first. That said I'm thinking home defense, put me outside my home those slugs start to look awesome.

  • @marcielindustries9225
    @marcielindustries9225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the wood furniture on that thing 👍

  • @troybartlett4584
    @troybartlett4584 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks! I was wondering!

  • @billcox6705
    @billcox6705 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vidoe. Thanks. I use Federal #8 & Federal #4.

  • @josegarza6083
    @josegarza6083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome Video, keep up the good work !

  • @gjhoward
    @gjhoward 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My 590 shotguns have a Defender Tactical shell adapter on them, basically turning them into an "S" model that can cycle all the shell lengths like yours. Highly recommend. I use short shells in my Shockwave and 2 3/4 shells in my standard 590.

  • @ajilla1980
    @ajilla1980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the informative video. 👍

  • @jimgersky
    @jimgersky หลายเดือนก่อน

    so much for the validity of your test,

  • @RayEvangelista70
    @RayEvangelista70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Time to go bye bye, that's hilarious! Great video!

  • @timjohnson8390
    @timjohnson8390 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That furniture woox awesome definitely a sweet upgrade

  • @peterpadelsky86
    @peterpadelsky86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man that's one of the most beautiful firearms I've ever seen! Awesome video.

  • @charlescowan6121
    @charlescowan6121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great demo, thank you! I'm still bewildered about why I can own this weapon but I can't have a mad max side by side-by-side.

  • @tomorender6479
    @tomorender6479 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dig the set up

  • @wobblybrute
    @wobblybrute 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cool video. I wanted to see these results for a while.

  • @DirtyDovi
    @DirtyDovi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:08 I was Not expecting THAT! 🤣
    In 2019, I snagged a KSG - for 'hunting season', and grabbed a bunch of Aguila 12G mini slugs..
    I brought them and a few other 3" shells to my sportsman's club, and let some friends fire away..
    We all agreed that these mini-shells where a LOT of fun! The target backer strongly disagreed..
    Once a proud standing wooden framework - Now an obliterated shell of it's former self:
    Now: nothing but chunks and chips and sawdust. haha

  • @Ohadjei-xp5gx
    @Ohadjei-xp5gx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this vid.

  • @kevinadams6345
    @kevinadams6345 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've loved the mini shells for years. I have them in 00 buck, they work great. Oh, and I have an old cheap, but runs great, Philippines shotgun. Mini's have worked for a couple of decades in it. Love the video.

    • @KiNgChArLeSIII3006
      @KiNgChArLeSIII3006 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where do you get them if you don’t mind me asking? I seen them once and then haven’t been able to get my hands on them for years now lol

    • @kevinadams6345
      @kevinadams6345 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KiNgChArLeSIII3006 rural king, most recently. But gun shows have them always

    • @KiNgChArLeSIII3006
      @KiNgChArLeSIII3006 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks big time!!

  • @baystateplugflipper7061
    @baystateplugflipper7061 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video man!!!

  • @arrad77
    @arrad77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nasty stuff bro. Happy Holidays! 💯

  • @atombomb6719
    @atombomb6719 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agreed
    Perfect result 👌🏽

  • @lonewanderer3603
    @lonewanderer3603 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I put a flashlight on the top pic rail and it causes the front bead to cast a perfect shadow that can be used fairly well for aiming. The light itself can be used since you know the barrel is about an inch below the middle of the light.

    • @frankcastle1183
      @frankcastle1183 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now that’s interesting. I had a crimson trace saddle but really like this idea instead.

  • @thebenforever
    @thebenforever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That furniture is 👌
    Gonna buy that exact setup.

  • @slkric1724
    @slkric1724 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The mini slug is my favorite. 👍🏽

  • @Black3-6alpha
    @Black3-6alpha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank great video

  • @williamcarroll8601
    @williamcarroll8601 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I worked a homicide many years ago, where the victim was shot in the throat from 6 feet away with birdshot that was fatal. I don’t think Byrd shot is good for self-defense, but in this case, obviously it had terminal effect. Great demonstration on the mini shells. thank you.

  • @mattb7626
    @mattb7626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude is spot on w that little beast. Buying one today

  • @YooToobz
    @YooToobz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another good episode

  • @jwaltower5836
    @jwaltower5836 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice Set 🆙 👍🏽

  • @greyfox2003
    @greyfox2003 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG it's Edwin! Way to show that Dummy who is boss. Love your videos That was some epic stuff.

  • @Campinis
    @Campinis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @juanpagan4197
    @juanpagan4197 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love my mini shells in my mossber 500❤❤

  • @atomicbill
    @atomicbill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my ksg12 with a Howitzer70 muzzle brake. It reduces recoil by 70%. No bruises after 50 slugs and tiny soreness.
    I have 6 low recoil 00. Buckshot in the first tube and 11 federal shorty slugs in the other tube. Red dot.

  • @eyesnearstactical
    @eyesnearstactical 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was awesome! 👏🏾 Thanks 👍🏾🤣