Man, I can't get enough of this guy's no-nonsense, no-peacocking, presenting style. It's such a fresh alternative to all the other "tacticool" shooters on youtube that are more concerned about how cool they look while shooting than with hitting what they're aiming at.
There is an adapter for the Mossberg that makes it run the mini shells reliably. Mossberg also sells the 590s that's specifically made to run the mini shells.
I love this guy. Just the right combination of self deprecating humor, articulate, well polished, and above all, supremely knowledgable. I learn something every time I listen to you. Thank you for your effort. I was about to go and buy these, and now, armed with knowledge that is more than anecdotal, I will change the plan accordingly.
@Jon Smith Thanks for the heads up! Now, with the adapter, these would actually be fun. Like I had said in my OP, dad and I bought some to try, expecting them to be a fun novelty, but not much more. Like you stated, for a young shooter, they are tame and easy to handle, and my nephew did like them. He’s about 85 pounds, and didn’t care much for the 1 1/8 oz slugs we were shooting. All jokes aside, letting him shoot a gun that doesn’t fit him well and walks all over him is really doing him a disservice. Getting the correct length of pull, overall length, and teaching him to manage recoil by starting with lighter loads will develop and enforce good habits and safety, and provide him with a lifetime of firearms enjoyment.
@Jon Smith Thank you Sir. I'm gonna look into getting this definitely. I have never tried shorties cause I heard they don't cycle 🤔. So I will try now 👍
when i first stumbled upon Paul's channel i almost thought it was satire just because of his laid back demeanor but that was quickly dismissed. This dude is the truth!
Many were accidentally destroyed shooting rifle bullets. Too many forget the difference in height between the scope and the bore. Bang...new chrono.....
There is an adapter for the Mossburg that works "perfectly" Also I feel that this is a real upgrade for shotguns, like a large capacity magazine for a Glock, vrs a "security Six".
Good to point out the "Short" comings of that round. For the mossburg there is a small rubber adapter that fits in the bottom feed ramp area and makes them shot and feed flawlessly.
Mossberg recently introduced a line 590s that feed the mini shot shells and 2 3/4” and 3”. It will also feed if the magazine is loaded with any variety of the three.
Mossberg just came out with the 590S. I picked one up the other day and, without modification, it cycles 1.75"-3" shells. Those minishells are a hoot to shoot.
agreed when I first discovered this channel I couldn't stand that yellow shooting jacket, now the jacket is like a member of the family LOL I want to have my couch reupholstered with that fabric!
I installed the OPsol adapter on my 590A1, and it is 100% flawless feeding with the Aquila Mini shells. I can load 9 +1 in the 18.5 inch tube. The OPsol adapter fits the 500 series Mossbergs only, and can be installed or removed in about 5 seconds. As far as I know, there is no adapter for the Remington 870 yet. I'm pushing 70, so the reduced recoil of the Aguila Mini shells is much appreciated in a home defense weapon.
I have it on my 500 as well. Helps with my herniated cervical disc issues. At 51 and lots of back problems this allows me to continue to use my 12g as an hd weapon, which I prefer over my handgun.
Thanks for posting this. Besides my primary shotgun, an 870, I have a "door prize" Maverick I've been meaning to cut down and cobble up a longer magazine for it.
I know your post is Very old, but check out Defender Tactical, if you are still into the mini shells They have one that doesn't need to be removed. Run what u brung ! 😁 I haven't tried it, but that's why I'm Back at this video. 😅 Ordering one tomorrow for the versatility, low cost, + the positive reviews. BTW. I saw it's $25 right now for the adapter, and an aluminum follower. Have a good one.
One other advantage comes to mind for those wanting to use a single-shot or double-barrel in an extended survival situation. Since they're smaller and lighter, more could be carried.
Michael W. Perry Quite true. The mini shells also come in 7/8 oz rifled slug. Federal also makes a “Shorty” 15 pellet, #4 Buck shell. The Federal stuff might be the way to go for home defense.
They also make adapters (rifles and smooth bore) for other ammo. For example, I've found adapters for a 12 gauge that will allow me to shoot black powder without a shell turning your gun into a muzzleloader, 45-70, 20 ga, .410 bore, 9mm, 45 ACP, 22LR and the list goes on
For me personally, the Aguila Minishells and the Federal Shorty Shells paired with my Mossberg Shockwaves equipped with Opsol’s, are the perfect balance of power and recoil. My Shockwaves are single purpose; anti-personnel. I keep one at the nightstand, and one in the truck. Thankfully I’ve never needed to use them, but glad to see how well they performed on the meat target. Thanks for the demonstration Paul 🐐
Hell, I'd like to be his neighbor for that very reason! It would also be awesome to have someone like him who you can talk guns over the fence with. :)
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 lol okay, I know Paul has some serious firepower and people who send him all kinds of stuff, I didn't know if it was some new product someone sent him 😂
Excellent demo. I use these in my KSG with no complaints at all. I like the quantity of ammo and close quarter convenience or advantage. 00Buck and slug ammo give me plenty of power and 20 plus rounds to do what I need to do. I think close quarter combat is what my KSG and Agila shells are best suited for.
Third to that point Not a single FTF in ksg Never used the birdshot but the buck shot and slug are awesome and holding 20 shells is why i bought the ksg in California. I said they're gonna make this beast illegal soon 5yrs later not illegal and with A $200 romeo 5 it is a great variety piece to my newer m3000 stoeger capacity of 7 ghost loaded with 28 inch barrel It gets heavy when loaded even halfway which is how i keep it with 8 mini buck and 4 #4 buck Throws slugs like a rifle 100 yards
Same here. They work great in my KSG. The slug rounds are pretty fun to use at my indoor range and its nice to have so many in the magazine tubes that I don’t run out so quickly. Nothing poops the party more than getting on a roll with target practice only to hear a click because you’re out. Haha
@@TRENDewyZ same for me on ksg but I feel I would rather have fewer more powerful rounds.. I will admit , after seeing this demo, they do perform a little better than I thought they would. But I think the hole in the ribs from the 2-3/4 shells was much more obvious and I think that difference would be even greater compared to a 1500 speed 00 buck. He does a good job pointing out the number of shots fired in self defense. I just don't see the need for more than 14 ( or even 12 magnum rounds) and would prefer each round to be as powerful as possible. Now. if we are talking zombi apocalypse I'll take more ammo please. Zombi skulls are softer and there are just so many of the damn things.
I never even thought about the danger of double feeds with this ammo. Thank you for testing them out that’s really valuable information that never crossed my mind!
Best Firearms Channel on TH-cam with apologies to Hickok45 and the rest. Straightforward No Nonsense very refreshing. There is one manufacturer making what appears to be something of a rubber plug that slips into the bottom of the feed ramp and make cycling those mini shells possible in a pump action shotgun.
Why apologize to Hickock? Guy is a talking piece for whatever gun he's shooting. He's never given any opinion of any worth or taken a stance on anything. Oh wait excuse me, he did make fun of hipoint once, hard hitting stuff Hickock. Weak
I have to say for such a small cartridge, I'm actually surprised with their terminal performance! Excellent and thorough field test with realistic conditions. I'm very impressed and glad I subbed!
As far as I can tell, these were invented specifically for the Mag-7 shotgun. The magazine goes through the grip like a handgun. The short shells fit that smaller space. The magazines also end up taking up less space since they are short front-to-back. Allowing twice the ammunition to be carried by the user. The Mag-7 appears to be a combat weapon system. Some other companies have expressed interest in using the Aguila shells but as far as I'm aware, nobody else has made a specifically designed gun around the Aguila short shells. Now, I don't plan to manufacture, but I plan to build a shotgun bullpup designed around the Aguila short shells as part of my gunsmithing training. But it's just a personal project. My gunsmithing mentor and I have talked about building a few guns around that cartridge. But we will see if they come to fruition.
TheDrRJP Seriously? Just use the rest of the shells in the tube and you can top off if needed. That’s if the thugs decide to stay after getting shot at with a 12-gauge
@@TheDrRJPthen you would have more than enough for all 4 with a regular 2 3/4 slug loaded in most any shotgun Not to mention when that first high velocity slug goes off the thugs usually turn around and go the other way
For home defense, consider this: .45acp running a 210grain bullet down range at 800-900fps is known to have some decent stopping power. A 12ga mini slug is 437 grain (1 ounce) running down range at about 1200fps. Also, the .45 is what 10mm, 11mm? The 12ga mini slug is 18.5mm; twice the weight, moving 50% faster than a .45acp and I'll have more ammo than a 1911 with low recoil. Yeah, I'll have some of that and twice on Sunday. Mossberg 590s running these mini shells under my tree this coming Xmas for sure...Sold!
Paul: Your pervasive expertise and exceptional teaching skills - once again - shine. This isn’t flattery. For example: - The decision to move the chronograph to four yards (versus seven) demonstrates an unbelievably comprehensive and integrated knowledge of “all things firearms” that most of us, even with many decades of experience, wouldn’t have initially considered. - Similarly, your use of the .410 shotgun makes great sense - to illustrate some of the mini-shells’ limitations - but I certainly would never have thought about including one. So, all things considered, this is another very valuable video. THANK YOU! And I reiterate what a fine idea a “Harrell Firearms Academy” training course (or courses) might be (obviously, there are many major issues to be resolved, but you’re a terrific teacher/leader and I suspect your classes would be oversubscribed). Incidentally, the mini-shells seem more like a gimmick, than like a practical enhancement, to me. V/R.
Hi Paul and thanks for all the videos you do. Times have changes and so have some circumstances. My wife and i are near retirement and are planning on extended trips in a 23 foot Camper Trailer pulled by a SUV. The self defense systems that I have decided on are a 1911 sig sauer that I already own and the Mossberg 12 guage Shockwave outfitted with the Crimson Trace Green Laser side saddle, Opsol insert, grip tape on the stock and a sidesaddle to hold extra rounds. As you can probably guess I will be using the Mini Shells. I would load the tube with the buck and keep 4 slug and more 8 buck rounds on the saddle to top off (2 mini shell in each slot to hold 12 extra rounds). This set up appears to be counter your videos presented I have watched but when looking at my specific needs seems to fit the bill of: Short gun length for Truck and Camper use, reasonable optics for target, extra rounds for a shorter tube and lower recoil. If you could tell me how this sounds to you I would much appreciate the input.
From what I've learned, the 1.75 inch mini shells are made first by Aguila, designed specifically for the Winchester 1300 series (FN's TPS or Tactical Police Shotgun is a clone of the 1300 so should also be able to run these minis). Other pump guns that proved able to run these shells are Kel-Tec KSG, Benelli Nova, and SuperNava. Mossberg 500 series (including Maverick) needs the OPSol Mini-Clip 2.0 adapter for reliable cycling. For every other brand of pump, running the slide hard and fast may reduce the failure rate, but can't eliminate failures completely :)
Paul just watched this video which was my first one from you. You are very articulate and a clear communicator. I'm an adult educator and I can say I love what you are doing. I learned a lot from your video. GREAT JOB!
Another well organized, well presented, and very informative video from Comrade Harrellikovski ! Marvelous job, Professor. I never watch one of your vids without learning a LOT. I wish I could be your under-study for a few days. Please keep up the good work. ☺
I just bought a box of mini shells. Shot the whole box without any problems with jamming. I shot the mini shells in my Mossberg 500. I also bought an OPSol mini clip adapter for my Mossberg. The mini clip is an adapter for the 500 that will allow the 500 to cycle the mini shells in the 500 without jamming. The OPSol mini clip is very easy to install in the 500 and is low cost Around $15.00. No tools required to install.You can google it on line to purchase it . The mini shells are great to shoot, and great for recoil sensitive shooters. Paul thanks for the opportunity to comment on your video. I have watched a lot of your videos and think they are great.
Round count does give peace of mind. That's an advantage when it comes to confidence in a situation where you need to defend your home. Thieves in my area tend to break in to homes in teams of 3 to 4 people. I might not use less than 5 shells but knowing that I have more would make me feel better. Last thing that I want to be doing is counting my shots to ensure that I don't run out.
I typed into the You Tube search engine "how powerful are Aguila mini shells?" Of all the YT videos about firearms it was this channel that I liked best. Paul, you are the best.
minishells aren't perfected yet but I give Aguila props for going through the R&D required to manufacture them and create them. Even if the practical usage is tiny, they still forged ahead and did it. Note: there definitely are people who need a lower recoil as they get older and still want to be able to hit a target without breaking a shoulder but I digress. Point is I'm thankful you made the video and thankful companies like Aguila exist and are trying new things.
how is it good data when he says"im not going to count this one because its a fluke" lol and hes completely unaware of the shot that went wide to the left at 3:45
Because "good" data samples will often represent a culling of outlying data points via application of standard deviation analysis. Admittedly, Paul did not define a specific standard deviation parameter, nor is it likely he performed a specific analysis, but his disregard of visually obvious outlying data points within the total set is reasonable for the common sense purposes of this video. More to the point, Mrgunsingear was most likely using the expression "good data" as a simplified metaphor for "good or useful information" and not as an objective quantification of data. Feel better now?
good data doesnt come from a biased source that determines something as a fluke when it indeed happened more the once in this video, his and your logic must go something like this; i got shot by the round i determined was a "fluke" so it doesnt count and i dont need medical attention... good job kid
The thing I love about your videos is that you’re the same everyday Joe just like the rest of us. Your content is honest and fun! Keep up the good work Paul!
There's a company that makes an adapter for reliable feeding, I believe it's called OPsol, and iirc it's for all the mossburg stuff, maverick 88, 500, 590
josh benware, less recoil for kids or wife, , if you already have a 12.ga ... add in a working adapter & almost double the capacity. They did sell 'mini' slugs & 'mini' bird shot,a long time ago? I'd Like to see, mini slug test & then a mixed load of 12 minis with adapter... How long does it take to change adapter out? With alittle stress...
God, such a clean presentation. No old boy crap, no hickock45 droning on, just clean info without filler. Subbed, and looking forward to browsing his other informative shows.
I keep three Mossbergs in my home (My 18.5" 590A1 pistol grip only, my girlfriend's 500 with a full stock, and another pistol-grip-only 18.5" 500, all with lights and Crimson Trace laser saddles and big dot bead sights) and a fourth in my truck (590 Nightstick with a night sight). They all have the OpSol Mini Clip 2.0 minishell adapters in them and they're full of Aguila mini buck shells. The ones in the house I pinned the adapters in place with a roll pin because their removable nature made me nervous, turns out now Mossberg makes 500 and 590 models that cycle the shorties interchangeably with fullsize, but whatever. I can't imagine a better home defense option, frankly. They're handy, reliable, and point-shoot wonderfully, and the rounds have sufficient (but NOT excessive) penetration, spread out to about a 5-6" pattern at 20' or so, kick lightly enough that ANYONE can easily run them, and regardless of what anyone says about power still puts out easily twice the energy of nearly any handgun round. They're also pretty quiet, I feel somewhat confident firing them in a closed room wouldn't do too much hearing damage. The very small risk of overpenetration is their biggest attribute to me.
You and I would get along. The only shotguns we have in this home are mossberg. That's just how it's always been. My primary home defense weapon is a 590. I keep it loaded up with nine pellet 00 buckshot. I damn well know if I hit somebody in the stomach or the chest or the head that inside distances.. with that kind of around.. or shell... I'm leaning towards like 99% chance that they're never getting up again. I actually just picked up a bunch of those short shells I'm just waiting for the adapter to come in the mail. I'm going to do a little ballistic testing just to see what they really have. I'm going to stick with what I just said though cuz that's been proven to be nothing short of absolutely fucking devastating. Pardon my language. Don't get me wrong though I mean two and three quarter inch 3 in 3 1/2 in or one of those shorties getting shot with anything sucks. Definitely something I try to avoid 100% of the time. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
I have the regular KSG and I love it! I also have had both shoulders done and couldn't wait to finally find these shorty shells in stock. All they had was bird shot and that's what I wanted anyway because of how close my neighbors are! The recoil was awesome and they cycled 100% in my KSG. I like that my wife can shoot it too and no need for reloading because it's dedicated for midnight callers!
The Opsol mini clip is a rubber plug you can fit into a mossberg 500, 590 and maverick 88 to make these shells run without issue. They may make other options. Hope this helps anyone who's interested in minishells with one of these shotguns.
Love your videos Paul. My grandpa used to load cut down 12 gauge shells for small game like rabit or squirrel. More or less what you determined 12 gauge with 410 power. Always worked well and saved meat.
Using an adapter the mini shells work flawlessly in my Mossberg Shockwave. They also make slugs. The Shockwave can of course handle 2 3/4 shells also. Take into consideration that the Shockwave which has become very popular is mission specific. Tight quarters weapon system (yeah I just made that up) and the mini shells make it easier to shoot in tight quarters. In my home the longest shot possible is 27 feet that is 9 yards and most shots would occur in 10 - 12 foot distance or less. I have used both standard shells and mini shells in the Shockwave. I am confident it will serve me well with either, but I prefer to use the mini shells.
Well it's now 2 April 2019. And I have just re-watched this video because I was bored. I have to admit that overtime I did experience several problems with the Mini Shells in my Shockwave. Can't have a self defense platform that is not 100% reliable so I have gone back to using standard 2 3/4 inch 12 ga shells in the Shockwave.
Paul you have tons of real experience and make good videos. the mossberg 590s has an altered trigger group with a rubber bumper in the front that keeps the shell lined up with the elevator. the 20" 590s holds 13 shells the 18" 9 shells and the 16" 8 shells. I think they are excellent load for home defense and cheaper the 410 shells
Hey Paul, great video. You are a natural teacher. Excellent manipulation of the Mossberg pump, virtually as smooth as a semi-auto. I thought about trying a box of the short shells in my Browning A-5. I think that you saved me the $20.
As always, very professional unbiased review. For what it’s worth, the short shells feed and function well in the KSG bullpump. Thanks for the review Paul!
This is the first video I have seen made by you, and I was quite impressed. Straight to the point without bias. (hard to find on youtube) Using the chrono was really smart as well.
Mr. Harrell. Thank you. Your videos and instruction are very informative. Also, for the record, I'd hate to get caught in your cross hairs. Thanks for your service to our country and families.
I second Cajun Swamp fox on the miniclip. I installed it on my Mossberg 500 chambers flawlessly every time with all 3 variants of mini shells birdshot, buckshot, and the slugs. Mini shells are a nearly ideal option for me because I have a pistol grip 12ga with no stock because a full sized shot gun will not maneuver in my narrow hallways easily, but full sized shells have a hefty recoil when all you have is a pistol grip. The lighter recoil, increased capacity, in a shorter shotgun is a pretty good compromise I think. I bought this shotgun before other options like the shockwave hit the market. Like you said in the video. I think buying a box of modified ammo is a better solution than buying a whole new shot gun. The recoil reduction is the real benefit to me, and even though they pack less punch a follow up shot can be made if necessary and that's where the increased capacity comes in. If there's flaws in my logic I am certainly open to recommendations.
I use the Aguila mini shells in my 8-shot 12gauge wheel gun because I can double stack each cylinder for a total of 16 rounds in my pistol. Even better, it's full semi-auto!
8-shot 12gauge wheel gun because I can double stack each cylinder for a total of 16 rounds in my pistol. Even better, it's full semi-auto! Mine is a double barrel model with a binary trigger .. 4 shots with every trigger pull
I just found a cache I had of these, probably stored before this video was made. Now I don’t have to waste them to get an idea what they do. Thanks, Paul.
Mini shells cycle just fine with the opsol adapter in my very same mossberg. Without the adapter it's hard to say you're giving the minis a fair shake on cycle issues.
TRON The guy I shoot with, had that adapter put in his Mossberg and he runs the mini shells without any problem. I personally can’t see the point in emasculating a 12 gauge below 2 3/4 inch 00 buck. My Benelli M4 has such minimal recoil that if you have any training in recoil management, it’s not necessary to go to a weaker gun or ammunition.
This is a very legitimate argument. I just bought a Remington Tac 14 and they cycle these little dudes just fine. The Mossberg Shockwave, however does not and needs the adapter. Its the main reason I chose the tac 14 over the shockwave.
I have a KSG and these shells cycle reliably. The KSG will hold 22 mini shells and its shorter OAL than a traditional 12 ga makes it an ideal choice for maneuvering in tight quarters and rounding corners.
KSGs gobble up minishells and spit ‘em out without issues. AND it sucks to reload KSGs. SO if you load up 22 rounds, slugs in one tube and buckshot in the other, with low recoil, it’s a really nice setup for home defense/riot control, etc. I will say the Aguila slug accuracy vs standard 2-3/4 Rifled slugs is much worse after 20-or-so yards. Be safe. ✌️
Colonizer-Chan ive noticed similar results after working through a couple boxes of AguilaBuckshot and slugs. Seems to be a noticed dip in powder charge in each Mexican made shell. Id say def patern and practice with these shorty shells before doing any serious social work/defensive planning for the homestead
Thank you. I’ve seen only one other video on the Aguila mini shells, and it didn’t mention any malfunctions, but I was primarily interested in the shotgun, so the inclusion of the Aguila mini’s were sort of a bonus. I found your video and perspective valuable. Thanks for sharing!
Answered my own question fairly easily - Remington has a "low recoil" 12 gauge 00 buck which marketed as a "law enforcement" round. Presumably to control over-penetration. A comparison between that and the Aguila might be interesting. I would guess it would cycle a semi-auto action.
Low recoil 12ga Buck for LE isn't particularly to reduce overpenetration , it is for less recoil . Yeah, yeah , you probably won't fire very many rounds in an actual shooting incident , but it will make a big difference in shooting 50 or 100 rounds in training .
Love the video as always very informative! I originally loaded my magazine tube in my model 37 just with the mini shells but I changed that to 4 full length shells and there is just enough room to fit a 5th mini shell. So I now get one extra shot before having to reload.
OpSol mini shell adapter... Designed in Texas. Made in Texas. Made by Americans. Can't believe you left that out. B- today. Minishells work great with the adapter.
Great video as always Paul. Im super glad you tried them in an auto, i didnt think they would cycle much like .22 CB and the powderless .22 round Aguilla also makes called colibre. Those powderless .22 are excellent in manual action .22's, they have enough snoot to get through a thick phone book, easily take out rabbits around the garden and when fired from a rifle length barrel, i think i can fart louder than the report.
HEY EVERYONE: this presentation has a PART TWO that features a demo of the opsol adaptor.
Thanks Paul
th-cam.com/video/vIiMmWv9h7Q/w-d-xo.html
Here's the link
@@UncleBalthazar Thank you, Terry.
Great video. They work great in the mossberg shockwave.
Thanks for the update, i imagine crowds of folks shrieking "opsol" at their computer screens ... 🤣
Man, I can't get enough of this guy's no-nonsense, no-peacocking, presenting style. It's such a fresh alternative to all the other "tacticool" shooters on youtube that are more concerned about how cool they look while shooting than with hitting what they're aiming at.
Don't fall on your face over this guy.
@@donembrey3956 Don't get too butt hurt
This is the only gun channel I have watched in like 5 years. Everyone else wore VERY thin.
Ok boomer
Yup. Too many TH-cam’rs look like idiots in their videos because they act like clowns. Shoot...giggles...repeat.
That butcher nearest to Paul, probably drives a nice car.
His grocer is making out like a bandit too.
HaHaHa
Shasta man drops off cases of orange 2 liters too
The guy with the patent on the New and Improved High-Tech Fleece Bullet-Stop just bought a new yacht.
But Paul Can cook the Shit Out of That Meat
There is an adapter for the Mossberg that makes it run the mini shells reliably. Mossberg also sells the 590s that's specifically made to run the mini shells.
It's not small, it's just cold.
@james cowboy back when comedy was good.
@james cowboy Shrinkage!!!
Hahaha!
Great video! I’ve been curious about these.
You should make a video on them
Nah
Just grabbed an adapter for my regular Mossberg 590 allowing me to run these mini shells without having malfunctions.. supposedly
@@charliehampton3055LOL
I love this guy. Just the right combination of self deprecating humor, articulate, well polished, and above all, supremely knowledgable. I learn something every time I listen to you. Thank you for your effort. I was about to go and buy these, and now, armed with knowledge that is more than anecdotal, I will change the plan accordingly.
@Rusty Shackleford What's wrong with clowning yourself? Deep down inside, we're all clowns (Also nice name, King Of The Hill fan?)
@Rusty Shackleford who is the wannabe here?
If you have a mossberg there's a $10 adapter to make these shells cycle correctly.
@Jon Smith Thanks for the heads up! Now, with the adapter, these would actually be fun. Like I had said in my OP, dad and I bought some to try, expecting them to be a fun novelty, but not much more.
Like you stated, for a young shooter, they are tame and easy to handle, and my nephew did like them. He’s about 85 pounds, and didn’t care much for the 1 1/8 oz slugs we were shooting. All jokes aside, letting him shoot a gun that doesn’t fit him well and walks all over him is really doing him a disservice. Getting the correct length of pull, overall length, and teaching him to manage recoil by starting with lighter loads will develop and enforce good habits and safety, and provide him with a lifetime of firearms enjoyment.
@Jon Smith Thank you Sir. I'm gonna look into getting this definitely. I have never tried shorties cause I heard they don't cycle 🤔. So I will try now 👍
Mr. Harrell, I appreciate the effort you put into this video. Well prepared and presented. First time on your channel but wont be the last.
We consider Paul as the Gold standard.
when i first stumbled upon Paul's channel i almost thought it was satire just because of his laid back demeanor but that was quickly dismissed. This dude is the truth!
This video made me think. How many chronographs have been accidentally destroyed by people trying to chrony shotgun patterns?
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I suspect one more in this video. No scenes w aguilla
Many were accidentally destroyed shooting rifle bullets. Too many forget the difference in height between the scope and the bore. Bang...new chrono.....
Many. And probably just as many killed by rifles or pistols.
...or go pros for that matter!
Aguila has an attachment for the receiver of the pump shotties....makes em cycle flawlessly
Link??
There is an adapter for the Mossburg that works "perfectly"
Also I feel that this is a real upgrade for shotguns, like a large capacity magazine for a Glock, vrs a "security Six".
Thefirearmguy just put out a demonstration of installation and use of that adapter today. It works
It works fine in my M590A1.
Was going to mention these adapters, they seem to exist for a variety of slide action manufacturers
@@casualobserver3145 do you have the adapter installed on your 590? I’ve seen comments saying that the A1 can run these shells without an adapter.
@@superluminalsquirrel9359 works in the 590 with the adapter
Does Paul have the best gun channel? Well in the gun video watching world, I'm what you call a professional, and I think so, but you be the judge!
Hickok45 and this guy 👍👍
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If looking for hard information with a light touch, no better channel than Paul Harrell's
Paul Harrell all the way. Forget gun channels, how many channels AT ALL take such a calm, logical, and thorough approach to what they're covering?
@@oceanwaves83 Forgotten Weapons, maybe?
always appreciate the "straight to the point" no bs approach
Good to point out the "Short" comings of that round. For the mossburg there is a small rubber adapter that fits in the bottom feed ramp area and makes them shot and feed flawlessly.
Hello spud do you know if regular shells (2 3/4-3") will feed with that adapter in?
@@alexvargas4668 no, they won't. The adapter is used for the minishells, but needs to be removed for standard length shells.
Mossberg recently introduced a line 590s that feed the mini shot shells and 2 3/4” and 3”. It will also feed if the magazine is loaded with any variety of the three.
Mossberg just came out with the 590S. I picked one up the other day and, without modification, it cycles 1.75"-3" shells. Those minishells are a hoot to shoot.
Just bought mine the other day.. can't wait to buy some mini shells to shoot
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When paul uploads a new video I'm more happier then a fat kid in a cake factory on free cake day
Two in one day; we are not worthy!!
DarkVegetaman The gods Smile at us today
YES!
agreed when I first discovered this channel I couldn't stand that yellow shooting jacket, now the jacket is like a member of the family LOL I want to have my couch reupholstered with that fabric!
I installed the OPsol adapter on my 590A1, and it is 100% flawless feeding with the Aquila Mini shells. I can load 9 +1 in the 18.5 inch tube. The OPsol adapter fits the 500 series Mossbergs only, and can be installed or removed in about 5 seconds. As far as I know, there is no adapter for the Remington 870 yet. I'm pushing 70, so the reduced recoil of the Aguila Mini shells is much appreciated in a home defense weapon.
Fits the 590 series, too. Latest version, anyway. 8+1 in the shockwave.
You can also print them to the same effect. 3 cents of plastic and an hour and 40 minutes of print time.
I have it on my 500 as well. Helps with my herniated cervical disc issues. At 51 and lots of back problems this allows me to continue to use my 12g as an hd weapon, which I prefer over my handgun.
Thanks for posting this. Besides my primary shotgun, an 870, I have a "door prize" Maverick I've been meaning to cut down and cobble up a longer magazine for it.
I know your post is Very old, but check out Defender Tactical, if you are still into the mini shells They have one that doesn't need to be removed.
Run what u brung ! 😁
I haven't tried it, but that's why I'm Back at this video. 😅
Ordering one tomorrow for the versatility, low cost, + the positive reviews.
BTW. I saw it's $25 right now for the adapter, and an aluminum follower.
Have a good one.
One other advantage comes to mind for those wanting to use a single-shot or double-barrel in an extended survival situation. Since they're smaller and lighter, more could be carried.
Michael W. Perry Quite true. The mini shells also come in 7/8 oz rifled slug. Federal also makes a “Shorty” 15 pellet, #4 Buck shell. The Federal stuff might be the way to go for home defense.
They also make adapters (rifles and smooth bore) for other ammo. For example, I've found adapters for a 12 gauge that will allow me to shoot black powder without a shell turning your gun into a muzzleloader, 45-70, 20 ga, .410 bore, 9mm, 45 ACP, 22LR and the list goes on
For me personally, the Aguila Minishells and the Federal Shorty Shells paired with my Mossberg Shockwaves equipped with Opsol’s, are the perfect balance of power and recoil. My Shockwaves are single purpose; anti-personnel. I keep one at the nightstand, and one in the truck. Thankfully I’ve never needed to use them, but glad to see how well they performed on the meat target. Thanks for the demonstration Paul 🐐
Man I bet Paul has some awesome bbqs with all of those jean-clad pork ribs he’s always annihilating. Great vid as always!
Hell, I'd like to be his neighbor for that very reason! It would also be awesome to have someone like him who you can talk guns over the fence with. :)
Y'all better be thorough on cleaning the ribs as lead poisoning is a definite possibility.
Mike Uman Range-marinated in citrus with just a hint of cordite. Delish. :)
Holey barbecued pork ribs, Batman! 😆
DogeMeat Nothing but the best
"New and Improved Hi-Tech Fleece Bullet Stop"
That thing has got to be at least $700.
Sorry if I'm just really dumb, but hes joking and it's just a plain fleece blanket right?
@@JJ_SDWR idk you well enough to say definitively if you're dumb or not, but yes he's joking.
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 lol okay, I know Paul has some serious firepower and people who send him all kinds of stuff, I didn't know if it was some new product someone sent him 😂
Excellent demo. I use these in my KSG with no complaints at all. I like the quantity of ammo and close quarter convenience or advantage. 00Buck and slug ammo give me plenty of power and 20 plus rounds to do what I need to do. I think close quarter combat is what my KSG and Agila shells are best suited for.
2nd that for the KSG. This gun/ammo combo is, in my opinion, the best home defense solution available other than an SBR.
Third to that point
Not a single FTF in ksg
Never used the birdshot but the buck shot and slug are awesome and holding 20 shells is why i bought the ksg in California. I said they're gonna make this beast illegal soon
5yrs later not illegal and with A $200 romeo 5 it is a great variety piece to my newer m3000 stoeger capacity of 7 ghost loaded with 28 inch barrel
It gets heavy when loaded even halfway which is how i keep it with 8 mini buck and 4 #4 buck
Throws slugs like a rifle 100 yards
Same here. They work great in my KSG. The slug rounds are pretty fun to use at my indoor range and its nice to have so many in the magazine tubes that I don’t run out so quickly. Nothing poops the party more than getting on a roll with target practice only to hear a click because you’re out. Haha
@@jonathansharp5540 me too! The adapter works flawlessly in the mossberg shockwave......about 1000 rounds with absolutely no failures!
@@TRENDewyZ same for me on ksg but I feel I would rather have fewer more powerful rounds.. I will admit , after seeing this demo, they do perform a little better than I thought they would. But I think the hole in the ribs from the 2-3/4 shells was much more obvious and I think that difference would be even greater compared to a 1500 speed 00 buck. He does a good job pointing out the number of shots fired in self defense. I just don't see the need for more than 14 ( or even 12 magnum rounds) and would prefer each round to be as powerful as possible. Now. if we are talking zombi apocalypse I'll take more ammo please. Zombi skulls are softer and there are just so many of the damn things.
Paul literally answered every question I had about the mini shells.
I never even thought about the danger of double feeds with this ammo. Thank you for testing them out that’s really valuable information that never crossed my mind!
Best Firearms Channel on TH-cam with apologies to Hickok45 and the rest. Straightforward No Nonsense very refreshing. There is one manufacturer making what appears to be something of a rubber plug that slips into the bottom of the feed ramp and make cycling those mini shells possible in a pump action shotgun.
Why apologize to Hickock? Guy is a talking piece for whatever gun he's shooting. He's never given any opinion of any worth or taken a stance on anything. Oh wait excuse me, he did make fun of hipoint once, hard hitting stuff Hickock. Weak
Hickok45 is a fudd
I would love to see Paul revisit this test with the mossberg 590s. Thank you Paul have a great Independence day. 🇺🇲
I have to say for such a small cartridge, I'm actually surprised with their terminal performance! Excellent and thorough field test with realistic conditions. I'm very impressed and glad I subbed!
As far as I can tell, these were invented specifically for the Mag-7 shotgun. The magazine goes through the grip like a handgun. The short shells fit that smaller space. The magazines also end up taking up less space since they are short front-to-back. Allowing twice the ammunition to be carried by the user. The Mag-7 appears to be a combat weapon system. Some other companies have expressed interest in using the Aguila shells but as far as I'm aware, nobody else has made a specifically designed gun around the Aguila short shells. Now, I don't plan to manufacture, but I plan to build a shotgun bullpup designed around the Aguila short shells as part of my gunsmithing training. But it's just a personal project. My gunsmithing mentor and I have talked about building a few guns around that cartridge. But we will see if they come to fruition.
OPSol clip will help Mossberg 500s feed those minishells if anyone is interested.
Shawn Mitchell works great!
Exactly what I was going to post. I can't find it on Amazon but search this...
opsol texas
I just bought one from Amazon less than a month ago. Went to go find the link for this, and "SORRY we couldn't find that page."
Shawn Mitchell you are right. I'm using a Legal Mossberg 88 Maverick 14 inch barrel (shockwave clone) with the OPSol clip with no problem.
Im just hearing about these Opsol? They fit a mossberg 500? Where can i get them? Local firearm store or are they just a gunshow item? Anybody?
1 full-size 12-gauge shell seems to work just fine.
Sure, for one thug. What if there are three more breaking into your home?
TheDrRJP Seriously? Just use the rest of the shells in the tube and you can top off if needed. That’s if the thugs decide to stay after getting shot at with a 12-gauge
@@TheDrRJPthen you would have more than enough for all 4 with a regular 2 3/4 slug loaded in most any shotgun
Not to mention when that first high velocity slug goes off the thugs usually turn around and go the other way
Shit if 6 shells of #4 buck aren't enough in a HD situation, I've got bigger problems to worry about.
Going to miss this guy. Anyone else watching his back catalogue?
To stop the malfunctions with the minishells, Amazon sells the Opsol mini clip (adapter) for $15. Easy to insert and easy to remove.
Can I still load 2 3/4 shells with it in
i like how you always bring up the financial aspect, few gun guys do that.
Thank you for doing such a great job of shooting, collecting data and thinking it through.
"Not more than five shots" was above and beyond.
For home defense, consider this: .45acp running a 210grain bullet down range at 800-900fps is known to have some decent stopping power. A 12ga mini slug is 437 grain (1 ounce) running down range at about 1200fps. Also, the .45 is what 10mm, 11mm? The 12ga mini slug is 18.5mm; twice the weight, moving 50% faster than a .45acp and I'll have more ammo than a 1911 with low recoil. Yeah, I'll have some of that and twice on Sunday. Mossberg 590s running these mini shells under my tree this coming Xmas for sure...Sold!
Paul: Your pervasive expertise and exceptional teaching skills - once again - shine. This isn’t flattery. For example:
- The decision to move the chronograph to four yards (versus seven) demonstrates an unbelievably comprehensive and integrated knowledge of “all things firearms” that most of us, even with many decades of experience, wouldn’t have initially considered.
- Similarly, your use of the .410 shotgun makes great sense - to illustrate some of the mini-shells’ limitations - but I certainly would never have thought about including one.
So, all things considered, this is another very valuable video. THANK YOU! And I reiterate what a fine idea a “Harrell Firearms Academy” training course (or courses) might be (obviously, there are many major issues to be resolved, but you’re a terrific teacher/leader and I suspect your classes would be oversubscribed).
Incidentally, the mini-shells seem more like a gimmick, than like a practical enhancement, to me.
V/R.
Hi Paul and thanks for all the videos you do. Times have changes and so have some circumstances. My wife and i are near retirement and are planning on extended trips in a 23 foot Camper Trailer pulled by a SUV. The self defense systems that I have decided on are a 1911 sig sauer that I already own and the Mossberg 12 guage Shockwave outfitted with the Crimson Trace Green Laser side saddle, Opsol insert, grip tape on the stock and a sidesaddle to hold extra rounds. As you can probably guess I will be using the Mini Shells. I would load the tube with the buck and keep 4 slug and more 8 buck rounds on the saddle to top off (2 mini shell in each slot to hold 12 extra rounds). This set up appears to be counter your videos presented I have watched but when looking at my specific needs seems to fit the bill of: Short gun length for Truck and Camper use, reasonable optics for target, extra rounds for a shorter tube and lower recoil. If you could tell me how this sounds to you I would much appreciate the input.
I really appreciate your scientific, no nonsense approach in this review. Easily my favorite review of any firearm/ammunition I’ve seen.
Channel is so informative. He just breaks it down so well. Great job and keep ‘em coming.
I thought of another application: people who have sawn off 12 gauges with no stock that want to feel cool without breaking their wrist
Or their noses.
or the new shockwaves
i shot a straightpipe with 1 hand with a 2 3/4 inch shell. i'm fine, but also retarded
I'd say just get a 20 gauge for that
From what I've learned, the 1.75 inch mini shells are made first by Aguila, designed specifically for the Winchester 1300 series (FN's TPS or Tactical Police Shotgun is a clone of the 1300 so should also be able to run these minis). Other pump guns that proved able to run these shells are Kel-Tec KSG, Benelli Nova, and SuperNava. Mossberg 500 series (including Maverick) needs the OPSol Mini-Clip 2.0 adapter for reliable cycling. For every other brand of pump, running the slide hard and fast may reduce the failure rate, but can't eliminate failures completely :)
Paul just watched this video which was my first one from you. You are very articulate and a clear communicator. I'm an adult educator and I can say I love what you are doing. I learned a lot from your video. GREAT JOB!
Another well organized, well presented, and very informative video from Comrade Harrellikovski ! Marvelous job, Professor. I never watch one of your vids without learning a LOT. I wish I could be your under-study for a few days. Please keep up the good work. ☺
I just bought a box of mini shells. Shot the whole box without any problems with jamming. I shot the mini shells in my Mossberg 500. I also bought an OPSol mini clip adapter for my Mossberg. The mini clip is an adapter for the 500 that will allow the 500 to cycle the mini shells in the 500 without jamming. The OPSol mini clip is very easy to install in the 500 and is low cost Around $15.00. No tools required to install.You can google it on line to purchase it . The mini shells are great to shoot, and great for recoil sensitive shooters. Paul thanks for the opportunity to comment on your video. I have watched a lot of your videos and think they are great.
Round count does give peace of mind. That's an advantage when it comes to confidence in a situation where you need to defend your home. Thieves in my area tend to break in to homes in teams of 3 to 4 people. I might not use less than 5 shells but knowing that I have more would make me feel better. Last thing that I want to be doing is counting my shots to ensure that I don't run out.
I typed into the You Tube search engine "how powerful are Aguila mini shells?" Of all the YT videos about firearms it was this channel that I liked best. Paul, you are the best.
He's the Bob Ross of guns
I like the way your videos are straight to the point and all the information I need. Very well done sir.
minishells aren't perfected yet but I give Aguila props for going through the R&D required to manufacture them and create them.
Even if the practical usage is tiny, they still forged ahead and did it.
Note: there definitely are people who need a lower recoil as they get older and still want to be able to hit a target without breaking a shoulder but I digress.
Point is I'm thankful you made the video and thankful companies like Aguila exist and are trying new things.
good data
how is it good data when he says"im not going to count this one because its a fluke" lol and hes completely unaware of the shot that went wide to the left at 3:45
Because "good" data samples will often represent a culling of outlying data points via application of standard deviation analysis. Admittedly, Paul did not define a specific standard deviation parameter, nor is it likely he performed a specific analysis, but his disregard of visually obvious outlying data points within the total set is reasonable for the common sense purposes of this video. More to the point, Mrgunsingear was most likely using the expression "good data" as a simplified metaphor for "good or useful information" and not as an objective quantification of data. Feel better now?
good data doesnt come from a biased source that determines something as a fluke when it indeed happened more the once in this video, his and your logic must go something like this; i got shot by the round i determined was a "fluke" so it doesnt count and i dont need medical attention... good job kid
@@astronautdolphindetective6908, that was the wad
@@horseman1956 Mr Gunsgear is just sub searchin, he does this across all the gun channels with some irrelevant comment
Yours is my go to channel when I want information on gun and ammo issues. Thank you professor. 😃
Topic covered well. And the demonstrations showed the effects under discussion with little fuss. Thanks for the efforts.
I was waiting for him to say " And will leave the light on for ya! " this guy has got a voice perfect for voice over work.
The thing I love about your videos is that you’re the same everyday Joe just like the rest of us. Your content is honest and fun! Keep up the good work Paul!
I don't know about everyday joe... he's probably a bob lee swagger just not a bragger
How you said "New and improved fleece bullet stop" with a straight face, I can't imagine. Hat's off to you, sir.
I understand your videos but you can't expect that everybody understands every video you bring. Keep it up.
There's a company that makes an adapter for reliable feeding, I believe it's called OPsol, and iirc it's for all the mossburg stuff, maverick 88, 500, 590
Looks like everyone already said it while I was watching the video :)
Wouldn't be surprised to see that device featured in a follow-up video right soon.
Paul Williamson I doubt their will be a follow up video. These mini shells flopped.
josh benware, less recoil for kids or wife, , if you already have a 12.ga ... add in a working adapter & almost double the capacity.
They did sell 'mini' slugs & 'mini' bird shot,a long time ago?
I'd Like to see, mini slug test & then a mixed load of 12 minis with adapter...
How long does it take to change adapter out? With alittle stress...
God, such a clean presentation. No old boy crap, no hickock45 droning on, just clean info without filler.
Subbed, and looking forward to browsing his other informative shows.
Best gun expert on TH-cam. Hands down.
One of the most professional videos ever. Bravo to you good sir
Try the Mossberg w/ th Op Sol adapter. I have one in my 590 Shockwave & it takes it from 5 to 8 rounds in the mag & has been reliable.
"It's getting late and we're losing light" is a great catch phrase ending 👍
Thanks Paul! This video was very helpful. I had been wondering about the application of the minishell.& it’s potency.
I keep three Mossbergs in my home (My 18.5" 590A1 pistol grip only, my girlfriend's 500 with a full stock, and another pistol-grip-only 18.5" 500, all with lights and Crimson Trace laser saddles and big dot bead sights) and a fourth in my truck (590 Nightstick with a night sight). They all have the OpSol Mini Clip 2.0 minishell adapters in them and they're full of Aguila mini buck shells. The ones in the house I pinned the adapters in place with a roll pin because their removable nature made me nervous, turns out now Mossberg makes 500 and 590 models that cycle the shorties interchangeably with fullsize, but whatever.
I can't imagine a better home defense option, frankly. They're handy, reliable, and point-shoot wonderfully, and the rounds have sufficient (but NOT excessive) penetration, spread out to about a 5-6" pattern at 20' or so, kick lightly enough that ANYONE can easily run them, and regardless of what anyone says about power still puts out easily twice the energy of nearly any handgun round. They're also pretty quiet, I feel somewhat confident firing them in a closed room wouldn't do too much hearing damage. The very small risk of overpenetration is their biggest attribute to me.
You and I would get along. The only shotguns we have in this home are mossberg. That's just how it's always been. My primary home defense weapon is a 590. I keep it loaded up with nine pellet 00 buckshot. I damn well know if I hit somebody in the stomach or the chest or the head that inside distances.. with that kind of around.. or shell... I'm leaning towards like 99% chance that they're never getting up again.
I actually just picked up a bunch of those short shells I'm just waiting for the adapter to come in the mail. I'm going to do a little ballistic testing just to see what they really have. I'm going to stick with what I just said though cuz that's been proven to be nothing short of absolutely fucking devastating. Pardon my language.
Don't get me wrong though I mean two and three quarter inch 3 in 3 1/2 in or one of those shorties getting shot with anything sucks. Definitely something I try to avoid 100% of the time. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
They work great keltec and my ksg25 will hold 20x20+1 and I had shoulder repair so their are recoil issues. Also 41 rounds means never a reload
Or as Eric on IV8888 says, it holds "a mess of 'em"
@@windwalker5765 You sir, are what we call "cultured."
Never had a single misfire with my 25, fulls or minis.
I have the regular KSG and I love it! I also have had both shoulders done and couldn't wait to finally find these shorty shells in stock. All they had was bird shot and that's what I wanted anyway because of how close my neighbors are!
The recoil was awesome and they cycled 100% in my KSG. I like that my wife can shoot it too and no need for reloading because it's dedicated for midnight callers!
That is hilarious and now I want a KSG.
The Opsol mini clip is a rubber plug you can fit into a mossberg 500, 590 and maverick 88 to make these shells run without issue. They may make other options. Hope this helps anyone who's interested in minishells with one of these shotguns.
Very refreshing intellectual presentation. Thank you for being you!
Love your videos Paul. My grandpa used to load cut down 12 gauge shells for small game like rabit or squirrel. More or less what you determined 12 gauge with 410 power. Always worked well and saved meat.
Using an adapter the mini shells work flawlessly in my Mossberg Shockwave. They also make slugs. The Shockwave can of course handle 2 3/4 shells also. Take into consideration that the Shockwave which has become very popular is mission specific. Tight quarters weapon system (yeah I just made that up) and the mini shells make it easier to shoot in tight quarters. In my home the longest shot possible is 27 feet that is 9 yards and most shots would occur in 10 - 12 foot distance or less. I have used both standard shells and mini shells in the Shockwave. I am confident it will serve me well with either, but I prefer to use the mini shells.
It may not be a critical factor, but I was also questioning the test distance of the 1st pattern test @ 15 yards.
Well it's now 2 April 2019. And I have just re-watched this video because I was bored. I have to admit that overtime I did experience several problems with the Mini Shells in my Shockwave. Can't have a self defense platform that is not 100% reliable so I have gone back to using standard 2 3/4 inch 12 ga shells in the Shockwave.
Paul you have tons of real experience and make good videos. the mossberg 590s has an altered trigger group with a rubber bumper in the front that keeps the shell lined up with the elevator. the 20" 590s holds 13 shells the 18" 9 shells and the 16" 8 shells. I think they are excellent load for home defense and cheaper the 410 shells
Hey Paul, great video. You are a natural teacher. Excellent manipulation of the Mossberg pump, virtually as smooth as a semi-auto. I thought about trying a box of the short shells in my Browning A-5. I think that you saved me the $20.
I enjoyed your presentation. Very well thought out and put together.
I love it when the meat target comes out.
another vid, awesome. Thanks Paul
Outstanding reviews, this and your others; best, most useful demo video of any, on anything, that I've ever seen.
As always, very professional unbiased review. For what it’s worth, the short shells feed and function well in the KSG bullpump. Thanks for the review Paul!
This is the first video I have seen made by you, and I was quite impressed. Straight to the point without bias. (hard to find on youtube) Using the chrono was really smart as well.
Great news! They make an adapter for the minis that works in conjunction with mossberg 500/590! I've tested it out myself and they work really well!
Mr. Harrell. Thank you. Your videos and instruction are very informative. Also, for the record, I'd hate to get caught in your cross hairs. Thanks for your service to our country and families.
Double barrel shotguns sold me on the mini shells. The opsol adapter made them a real contender.. especially the mini slugs.
Great channel.
I second Cajun Swamp fox on the miniclip. I installed it on my Mossberg 500 chambers flawlessly every time with all 3 variants of mini shells birdshot, buckshot, and the slugs. Mini shells are a nearly ideal option for me because I have a pistol grip 12ga with no stock because a full sized shot gun will not maneuver in my narrow hallways easily, but full sized shells have a hefty recoil when all you have is a pistol grip. The lighter recoil, increased capacity, in a shorter shotgun is a pretty good compromise I think. I bought this shotgun before other options like the shockwave hit the market. Like you said in the video. I think buying a box of modified ammo is a better solution than buying a whole new shot gun. The recoil reduction is the real benefit to me, and even though they pack less punch a follow up shot can be made if necessary and that's where the increased capacity comes in. If there's flaws in my logic I am certainly open to recommendations.
I use the Aguila mini shells in my 8-shot 12gauge wheel gun because I can double stack each cylinder for a total of 16 rounds in my pistol. Even better, it's full semi-auto!
Upload a video of this in action. Please.
RoughneckMP Think the "it's full semi-auto" says it all :-P
Sounds legit! I want one
FULL SEMI-AUTO!!!! OH NOESSSSSSS!
8-shot 12gauge wheel gun because I can double stack each cylinder for a total of 16 rounds in my pistol. Even better, it's full semi-auto! Mine is a double barrel model with a binary trigger .. 4 shots with every trigger pull
Very interesting. I'm glad you're there to test this stuff in a fair and accurate and entertaining way.
I just found a cache I had of these, probably stored before this video was made. Now I don’t have to waste them to get an idea what they do. Thanks, Paul.
I've always wondered about those Aguila mini shells and now I know.
Yea besides the fact there a 10 dollar adopter that makes them cycle perfectly. The shells are fine.
@@jeremymcneely1168 Pass.I think their garbage,the shots are very inconsistent from shot to shot.
I'll stick with the CCI stuff.
Looks like a solution running around looking for a problem to solve.
I agree.
@@PaulHarrell I also agree. Dumbest idea I've seen in a while.
Your videos are always no nonsense . Love them
Love your videos. I own a Keltec KSG, and have fired numerous Aguilas, buckshot and slug, thru my KSG and it so far has had no cycling issues at all.
How many can you fit? I have a KSG and thinking about getting these.
Mini shells cycle just fine with the opsol adapter in my very same mossberg. Without the adapter it's hard to say you're giving the minis a fair shake on cycle issues.
TRON The guy I shoot with, had that adapter put in his Mossberg and he runs the mini shells without any problem. I personally can’t see the point in emasculating a 12 gauge below 2 3/4 inch 00 buck. My Benelli M4 has such minimal recoil that if you have any training in recoil management, it’s not necessary to go to a weaker gun or ammunition.
This is a very legitimate argument. I just bought a Remington Tac 14 and they cycle these little dudes just fine. The Mossberg Shockwave, however does not and needs the adapter. Its the main reason I chose the tac 14 over the shockwave.
I have a KSG and these shells cycle reliably. The KSG will hold 22 mini shells and its shorter OAL than a traditional 12 ga makes it an ideal choice for maneuvering in tight quarters and rounding corners.
@@robertgoodrich8414 home defense?
cuntpuncher i would think so a maverick 88 is basically a mossberg 500
KSGs gobble up minishells and spit ‘em out without issues. AND it sucks to reload KSGs. SO if you load up 22 rounds, slugs in one tube and buckshot in the other, with low recoil, it’s a really nice setup for home defense/riot control, etc. I will say the Aguila slug accuracy vs standard 2-3/4 Rifled slugs is much worse after 20-or-so yards. Be safe. ✌️
okay, thanks for the tip on the slug accuracy. i'm curious, would you know why?
Colonizer-Chan ive noticed similar results after working through a couple boxes of AguilaBuckshot and slugs. Seems to be a noticed dip in powder charge in each Mexican made shell. Id say def patern and practice with these shorty shells before doing any serious social work/defensive planning for the homestead
Reviews4Fun good observations on the shells. The real question is: how do these shells perform after being proffessionally reloaded? :)
I use the mini shells in my KSG and it's like what they used to say about the Henry rifle, load on Monday and shot till Sunday.
@@VetteguyC6 but the KSG is not socially acceptable like the Henry :(
Very nice report! I enjoyed your work and the informative presentation.
Thank you. I’ve seen only one other video on the Aguila mini shells, and it didn’t mention any malfunctions, but I was primarily interested in the shotgun, so the inclusion of the Aguila mini’s were sort of a bonus. I found your video and perspective valuable. Thanks for sharing!
Answered my own question fairly easily - Remington has a "low recoil" 12 gauge 00 buck which marketed as a "law enforcement" round. Presumably to control over-penetration. A comparison between that and the Aguila might be interesting. I would guess it would cycle a semi-auto action.
Low recoil 12ga Buck for LE isn't particularly to reduce overpenetration , it is for less recoil .
Yeah, yeah , you probably won't fire very many rounds in an actual shooting incident , but it will make a big difference in shooting 50 or 100 rounds in training .
They work great in the Kel-tec KSG.
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Excellent all around analysis - almost bought the minis - thanks a mill! 🙏🖖
Love the video as always very informative! I originally loaded my magazine tube in my model 37 just with the mini shells but I changed that to 4 full length shells and there is just enough room to fit a 5th mini shell. So I now get one extra shot before having to reload.
OpSol mini shell adapter... Designed in Texas. Made in Texas. Made by Americans. Can't believe you left that out. B- today. Minishells work great with the adapter.
Made in Texas? No.
m.aliexpress.com/item/32972446352.html
@@erg0centric There are fake ones out there. According to OpSol they don't function as reliably as the real deal.
@Rusty Shackleford Aguila is a Mexican company
@Rusty Shackleford Texas didn't let them in, democrats did.
Rusty Shackleford How?
Love the "hightech fleece bulletstop" joke, gets me every time.
I have come to absolutely love this channel. The knowledge and presentation is just brilliant.
Great video as always Paul. Im super glad you tried them in an auto, i didnt think they would cycle much like .22 CB and the powderless .22 round Aguilla also makes called colibre. Those powderless .22 are excellent in manual action .22's, they have enough snoot to get through a thick phone book, easily take out rabbits around the garden and when fired from a rifle length barrel, i think i can fart louder than the report.