I’m a farmer from Holland. It’s really encouraging to hear Shellenberger acknowledge that the farmers have been denigrated and disrespected by politicians and public opinion in a horrible way.
Been that way for decades in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. We provide them food, and get ridiculed, and oppressed by everyone who don't farm. They judge us on appearance and not by our contribution and hard work.
It seems public opinion is coming around. There has been a shift building among the general population to get away from processed foods which requires supporting local farmers. The problem with the politicians are the lobbyists for Big Ag corporations. And as briefly mentioned in the interview above, when a man's paycheck depends on him believing and defending a bad thing, it's nearly impossible to convince him otherwise.
@@Lovin_It Sowell is an ideologue cloaked in cherry picked ‘scholarship’. A shill for right wing talking points. ‘Obama was the worst president ever.’ Really?
I live in California, my husband and I are voting for Trump. We are Latinos. We are in our 70’s. Lived CA all our lives. The Democrat Party left us we are now Republicans.
City allows for very dumb people as a herd takes care of them. City people stuck thinking it is 1700s and don't realize cars and internet makes country people not disadvantaged. Today it is the rich who live in the country (away from crime) and majority of poor living in cities for welfare and handouts. NOFA- farming was taken over by fart sniffing elitists.
That's the U.S. population -- but we import most of our food. Now ask how many people farmers employ! One quarter of the world population is a farm worker! Shellenberger sure knows how to lie with statistics! Either that, or her believes lies & goes around repeating them without truly analyzing the statistic. Isn't he also the guy that says the average American has one breast and one testicle?
I am a 33 year old white man. Never voted Trump yet. This Nov I will be voting for him for the first time. I have 2 children(my oldest is half mexican) my 2nd child is white... The far left lost my vote when they began pushing all that gender ideology white guilt crap. I dont want that for my kids. I dont want that for americans that look like we do ❤ That and I miss $2 gallons of gas. The DNC has been taking a piss this last decade and anyone who cant see that is spiritually blind. 🇺🇲🦅
The only thing I have ever heard Kennedy say on vaccines, is that they need appropriate testing. I was horrified, as a retired RN, to learn that my whole career, I had promoted vaccines that were not tested against a true placebo, but rather against another vaccine. That is not science. I’m with Kennedy. Do proper testing. Autism is out of control- Why? If it’s not vaccines then what. I think that is what Kennedy is saying.
Yes, I am very disappointed to hear Shellenberger say that he trusts vaccines. He is a great example of confirmation bias-chose not to research, then I can stay in my bubble.
The more you use tech the more autistic you tend to become. Bottlefeeding is so bad for children’s sense of organic life and it only snowballs from there. Many babies can hardly make eye contact with their mums for devices. You don’t need vaccines to explain autism
@@robinleeearleebird8284 I also trust the (tested and time proved) vaccines, but am increasingly concerned with the lack of proper testing and the haphazard ways pharmaceutical companies (and other industries in general) control the quality of products. Many of us, and I suspect Shallenberger is one, are trying not to throw the baby away with the bath water i.e. descredit the entire vaccination protocols due to the greed and inneficiency of big pharma on the latest decade. The outbreaks are growing and becoming more serious due to the suspicious minds.
Shellenberger is the man. Not just on the topics discussed here, but in fact he challenges elites who override the wishes of the people on a multitude of subjects, some not even mentioned here. A great voice of rationality.
He had some lame takes. That or he was bullsh!tting us, when he gave his reasons for not releasing an article on Biden's clear and obvious dementia. It was NOT speculative. Like there is concrete evidence for it other than observation. Just a stupid thing to say, it was plain as day to anyone who has had a parent with dementia or been a professional who has worked with patients that have it. FFS that's like saying it's speculative when someone is dead because they got their head cut off, better run some tests first to make sure he's really dead 🙄
But the elites are simply practicing capitalism in which everything is a commodity including politicians. Want better results purchase a few politicians. It's far more effective that voting.
There should be more transparency in government as well as an investigation, efficiency study, and an overhaul from top to bottom. If it hadn’t been for X and independent news outlets we would still be in and continue to be in the dark. Networks have hidden the truth for profit.Mr Musk is not a monarch. Please stop mischaracterizing and demonizing.
@@rigelb9025 Shellenberger for all intents and purposes is a limited hangout who wants to simply "reform" the elites through cordial persuasion, not make them accountable and facilitate power to the American citizenry.
I think the reason they did not ( the elites) recognize the Biden problem a year ago and have an open primary was precisely because they wanted to maintain FULL control over am Mt suit , so to speak. Aka Kamala ..so in order to control the process to put her in the replacement position, they had to wait till there was little to no push back and not time for her to conduct a " real" campaign. They could present her as someone she's not. Pump up her popularity. Taking full advantage of desperate, shocked, embarrassed, AND in some cases exposed democrat voters which helps the cause of the plan. The plan being, move quickly, lie profusely, subverting the publics ability to be reminded and informed how awful she is. ,
Not Americans in general, just the snobby ones who often live in urban areas. Conservatives (and many moderates) tend to support truckers and farmers (also usually conservatives).
I was physically close to Gavin Newsom during the ceremony when Southwest Airlines returned to SFO Airport in 2007. I felt like I needed a shower to remove the slime afterward.
For too long the power has rested in the hands of the same privileged few, failing to listen to those who had the least amount of power, who lack advocacy. Thank you Michael Shellenberger.
Yep but the elites have always wanted it master /slave The reason slavery was abolished wasn’t due to altruism it was because so many slaves escaped etc it was impossible for the insurers in London to price effectively. Now with technology, AI etc the elites finally don’t think they need the buy in from the average person. But they aren’t too gung ho ( the pandemic was a big move by them - the gloves came off ) - it’s a boiling frog strategy, Look into Catherine Austin Fitts work on this re slavery. As for totalitarian states - Jim marrs said a decade ago we had nearly all of the characteristics of one then.
Its not the SAME privileged few -- NOT predominantly the WASPs of the 20th Century Although left wing activists want to pretend as much. ALL current popular measures of income inequality ignore the income of age demographics moving through from unemployed youth,... to peak earning capacity years...to unemployed age. A person can be living in a paid off condo or house with a late model or 5byr old paid-off car and all manner of possessions and appliances and kitchenware and clothing and sheets & towels and electronic entertainment devices -- and still register below the poverty level on income metrics and have low no financial assets. That differs from people with the same income in the entry level job market -- trying to lease new cars because they can't afford to buy or fix used ones, and trying to rent expensive one or two bedroom apartments or a full floor in a dilapidated duplex in a deteriorating neighborhood -- sometimes sharing dwellings with strangers with incompatible habits. Then there's everybody in- between. You can't always tell what people have by where they live or looking at them. Further confounding statistics on the arc of ubcome & acquisitoon are successful criminals selling drugs and robbing bodegas, yet seemingly unlikely to go straight and buy a bodega, keep books and pay taxes-- but instead, remain in some dangerous neighborhood and fritter away their ill-gotten gains until they have little choice but to return to supplementing with crime whatever legit income lets them even appear on the radar and qualify as below poverty level. Sociology and political science students should beware of liars, damn liars, and statistical liars. The underfunded nature of the justice system and the lack of public defenders results in many law breakers being incarcerated for minor criminal activity, when in fact -- guilty or innocent -- they have capitulated to plea bargaining -- chronicly pleading guilty to minor non-violent offenses, creating outward appearances of over-policing. If you get mugged on the street or your dwelling ir vehicle gets broken into, the person that shows up isn't Sherlock Holmes bent on solving the crime...or some experienced and dedicated investigator from a track down tv show taking fingerprints and looking at every surveillance camera. When crime statistics fall the cause often a reduction in arrests or prosecutions, an on-the-job symptom of undiagnosed blue flu.
Partially true. America had social mobility, therefore many people rose to the higher echelon. What we need to be talking about, is the rise of nefarious Leftist-nihilist ideologues followed by the cohorts of appeasers, opportunists, narcissists and spineless executors.
The elites tried to sway me into being part of their agendas.... Even wanted to pay me off.... Nope! They FEAR ME, more than I have any reason to fear them... I'm The Shadow Man! Twin Identities... One has that Democrat Smile...... The other is your worst nightmare! people in power fear me... to the point where they are trying to use others to get to me...
My unsolicited comment is as long as a person is paralyzed by the fears of losing friends or be labeled a failure will never muster the courage needed to face enemies. The bottomline is, until a person loses their fear of pain and ultimately, DEATH, they will be wishy-washy. Our fear of DEATH is how they control us (see Covid). The only solution for our lack of courage is Faith.
I think your comment is profound, realistic and depressing at the same time because the overwhelming majority of people who do not have faith, only religions, are inhabited and lead by greed and fear. I've lived in a communist dictatorship for forty years and this attitude was valid before and even more so after 1989. Before 1989 it was fear mostly, afterwards it's been unleashed greed. Faith is to be lived, not mimed. So is integrity.
There are only two industries in this world: 1. Farming. 2. Mining. The rest of us owe our jobs to these two industries. We all have benefited from their intellect, innovation & hard work. Time to pay them gratitude & respect.
A few more for your list: Fishing (ok, a form of farming), Forestry (again, perhaps a form of farming), and Building (both places to protect us from the elements and comms between them).
I agree, and the sad part is that those who do those crucial tasks are not appreciated enough and often denigrated by the ignorant and those in political power.
Thanks Michael. I have been saying this about the elites for a long time - they had a system that gave them the freedom to become innovative and prosperous and now they want to shut the door. I have always said, Obama had a great chance to show and talk about how, in this system, he was able to rise all the way to the top. But he played the victim and divided us and talked about how awful the country is.
... "They" didn't throw it away with the best of intentions but according to a plan to cause the people in their countries to lose faith in the government of those countries "they" represent ... En route to global occupation. Listen to me, JFK wasn't lying when he warned that their was a plan by "covet means (banks)" etc to "enslave every man, woman and child" and I personally think as I've written in my book Joe Biden and Kamala Harris by Perris Jackson that "they" already created the template government "they" want to spread worldwide and it's already up and running i.e. / e.g. in China.
That's why "they" create covid 19 at Univeersity of Chapel Hill, in NC and while working hand in hand with communist chinese government meaning Barack Obama and Joe Biden and Fauci and the like... "they" laboring together "to cause a pandemic" which downgrades in many ways citizens lives in free countries and reinforces the slavery people exist in ... in places like China where Nike is ok to be using slave labor to make air jordans and apple iphones are ok to be made there in communist china as well using slaves in china to manufacture them and no one in the world is speaking out againt that ... [as USA is being destroyed from within by communist such as Kamala Harris]
Evil was insidious and played the long game. The most evil now control the entire planet. This is in the Jewish scriptures. The earth has an evil demi-god ruler according to the occult Jewish texts.
It's kinda bizarre to see such smart people finally understand how bad things are on the left. It's been obvious for decades that standing for nothing, especially self responsibility is always a bad idea. How could it take guys like this so long to open their eyes. It's fascinating.
Well, when you worship money as a philosophy of life and partake in the overconsumption psyop, you become this superficial animal that can be easily manipulated. This over communicated social media is transforming the human mind in ways that were unthinkable and what it is showing is that humans are a lot more primitive that imagined even in this modern world. Left to their own mental decisions and information overload, they mostly tend to become demented and weird in many ways.
Not at all "smart people finally understand"> This is a nrrative that is not reality based. Note they do not cite reality based examples, but speak in vague generalities.
My siblings and I were born in the latter half of the 50s/early 60s. My mom said when we were each babies and still living in Brooklyn New York, she used to go into the small stores and markets and leave the baby carriage outside with our sleeping sibling in it. I can remember my brother, born in ‘63, outside our house sleeping in his carriage.
I am in rural north GA and I remember this time (early 60's) the same. My mother would leave us in the car just outside the local drug or grocery store to run in a pick up something without a thought. Our community was safe and people looked after everyone else. I look around now and think, how have we gotten where we are!? Americans are a beautiful people yet there seems to be an evil lurking.
@@controlgroup01just look at when the Dulles Brothers created the DOD and all those 3 letter agencies that predate on Americans. Just like crack in the 80s, crime and all manner of social evils have been perpetrated by your own criminal government to destabilize the people and usurp their political authority.
My time in Donetsk area of Ukraine I had married a 25 year old and we had 2 sons born 2008 & 2010, both born in February. She started stroking them outside for at least 2 hours per day within their first week after birth. They’d fall asleep almost instantly and she couldn’t come in until they woke from their nap. So, it still goes on in countries furthest from western society. My favorite memory from those 5 years was when I was back in the States for a short trip and she contacted me to say “Michael, I need a hot coat.” Confused I asked what she means by hot, “Hot? Like sexy looking?” “No!” She exclaimed, I need hot coat that I won’t be so called when I take Danny for walk. And I need that it covet my ass” 🤣🤣🤣 She used ass the same as polite conversationalists use butt or bottom. She is 1.89 meter tall. All leg. found a lovely cream colored goose down long coat that come down to her mid calf. She loved it. And it kept her toasty while she sat on frozen park benches while our infant slumbered in a full body suit of inverted sheep skin you can’t find in my country
People tend to believe that things were good and then it fell off the rails. Actually this shitshow was designed to be the shitshow that it is. Chaos is the friend of the manipulative class.
@@daveandlunatube globalist and zionist... both are jews. Not all jews bad but most support and believe the rest of humans on earth are placed here by god to be the Jews's slave. judaism = communism
The two parties are corrupt and only corrupt politicians make it to the big dance. If you don't along with the program you aren't backed by the party, hard to overcome.
@@CmonManReally Seems like it's mostly billionaire who's wealth allows them to purchase government officials outright. But why are we complaining. Our current economic model allows everything to be commodified. Are we supposed to put restrictions on billionaires buying elected officials? That sounds like regulations and I thought we were supposed to be against regulating anything.
There are two variables regarding human nature and economic class systems. They are emotional, not intellectual. The wealthy, those who make money, not earn money, have two things on their mind and you only need to focus on these two things to understand them; 1. They want to be "above it all". They dream about the rules not applying to them. We know what this means. 2. They fear of losing it all. Wealthy people fear most of being poor, so they must oppress the less fortunate to assure themselves of their status. And there you have the motivations of the elite. They live in denial about the real world because they chose the evil of fear, instead of the solutions which comes from faith in the future and people.
Very well put! I'd also add that it comes down, ultimately, to power. The desire for ultimate power. And, what does power want? As you point out, first and foremost, to _maintain_ power. And, the other purpose of power is to _increase_ power. Money is just one (though perhaps the primary) _instrument_ of exercising power. It's a means to an end. Money being (one of) the means, power being the end. And, when it comes to desire - for money, but especially for power - there is no limit to greed. Hence the creeping totalitarianism we see (if one chooses to look) all around us.
Raising kids is not rocket science it's just common sense. Protect your kids from all adversity...don't be surprised if they become whimps. When I was growing up in the 1950s my dad was a great believer in letting his kids take risks. My mother, not so much. The conversation would go something like this, Mom: "He's going to get hurt!" Dad: "He's got to learn through making his own mistakes!"
I agree partially, yes it is good to take risks but not foolish risks. A friend of mine taught me that a smart person learns from his one mistakes, a very smart person from other peoples'' mistakes.
Common sense is a result of the family being able to teach their knowledge to the next generation. It is even the knowledge of the mentor to its pupils. Once that knowledge is not transmitted, common sense starts to decline. Why? Because many parents expected that their children will learn everything from the education system. And once that generation are parents, unless they reflect on this, they will think that institutions are the only capable of teaching their children even the things that only parents can give. I'm saying this because I see a decline in common sense. Now, it is not the only problem I see. If children used to be more free to explore, make mistakes, get to know people, etc. Now many of them are more institutionalized. So, they aren't even developing their own intuition and discernment.
Thankyou for a refreshing informed conversation chaps. Greatly appreciated. Been a fan of Michael Shellenberger a while now and liking Dad saves America more each podcast I see. Churr from NZ
It was enjoyable and thought-provoking, but I wonder if they're still missing the core issues: 1. Democracy may be problematic because a society needs informed voters to function effectively. 2. Human evolution has led to intellectual diversity, and in a society that values intelligence, there will naturally be a majority who fall outside the norm. I feel that avoiding these points is overlooking the reality.
@@DadSavesAmerica Francis is an antipope. The pope is Pope Gregory XVIII. See tcwblog. For history and "smoking guns" see the book "The Plot Against the Church." At least you stood against IVF. I don't trust your interlocutor, but I have already been censored regarding a "controversial" theory about who the real elites are.
Stopped watching TV in 2015. Who do I trust for information? Well, it took a few years of searching but I now trust those who have been right much more than they have been wrong. Shelenberger is one of them.
I am not sure if I can trust completely Whitney. She might be a shill with her never ending doom-gloom. The purpose might be lose hope and stop action.
@chris she isn't doom gloom. She reports the facts with receipts. You can either take action to educate yourself on the information she provides, or you can label her as doom and gloom bc you lack the courage to make change. It's okay, cowards like you won't make it... especially come November. Michael Yon, a war correspondent has a great saying " there are no room in my circle for cowards."
"Let them eat cake"! is an infamous quote handed down form monarchical days. In many ways modern day working class people have become the equivalent of feudalistic peasants who are expected to be quiet and invisible and subservient to the dictates of their "betters". As it has famously been said, "history doesn't repeat itself - but it often rhymes".
Marie Antoinette never said it, though. A writer cited a noblewoman as "let them eat brioche" when Marie Antoinette was a child in a different country. It later got attributed to her, unjustly.
The destroyed Bernie twice and we all knew that the youth of this country wanted Bernie. These young people were too stupid and lacked money/power to say or do anything to stop the dem party from doing this. Now these young voter are witnessing yet another boomer move and took out biden and placed a historical super weak candidate in his place. They obviously need another puppet so Kamala will do the job. The question is, are the youth of this country going to just vote for Trump because they don’t like being lied to? How in the world can Kamala flip flop on the dem policies and no one not notice the hypocrisy?
I predicted many months in advance that they would keep Joe on the ticket as long as possible in order to avoid having a primary so they could install whomever they want at the last minute. "It's definitely not a conspiracy", you say? Then how come if I just think of the most basic s I would conspire if I was an evil pos in their position, and time and time again that ends up being exactly what happens? At some point acting like nothing is a conspiracy looks as much like gaslighting as everything else we know is gaslighting.
Man, I barely recognize either of these dudes but this podcast is absolute fire. Full of insight and unique, practical perspectives. Lots of podcast out there critiquing the system (which I love), but this is where "the rubber meets the road".
This has been the most significant meeting I’ve had in along time. I hope they are more Americans like you guys meaning with an open, clear voice to show the craziness we are in right now. Thank you!!!!
1:35:00 on tolerance... It has struck me in later years that people being proud of their tolerance are missing something. Tolerance means, in this context, not complaining about things you do not like. I am not a tolerant man. I don't need to be. I'm fine with more or less anything, right up until that thing hurts someone and then I will certainly complain. When I hear someone tell me, and I hear this a lot, that they are a 'very tolerant' person all I really hear is 'there's a lot of things that disgust me but I don't say anything'. I don't think tolerance is the win many people think it is.
Right. Why tolerate the intolerable. It is ridiculous. Same as complete inclusion. So now males are included as women. Also Elite schools taking people that shouldn't be there. Is it still elite if you take anyone? Same as boy scouts. Shouldn't include girls for sake of inclusivity. This is a time of remarkable stupidity and all trying to wear the face of kindness
We forget that tolerance is a two way street. That is one group can tolerate and not react to another groups behavior and beliefs, but that other group's beliefs, if expressed to much, will oppress and become "intolerant" of the previous group. Therefore, the window to tolerance is very much smaller than window than we believe. The group that is tolerated quickly becomes intolerant to the group that tolerates them either intentionally or unintentionally.
Some whistleblower interviews that I would love to see: the accountants for the New York Times, for NPR, for Nancy Pelosi, for BLM, for CNN, etc etc. All of these wretched entities have crazy funding stories, I'm sure
Amazing content. So refreshing to see that values and virtues haven't been completely snuffed out. God bless you and I pray that our society recovers and values especially Christian ones be restored. We must return to God. This is the result of steering away from our lord Jesus Christ 🙏. Pray every day for our country to become the great country we all cherish , love , and die for. 🙏 please run for California again. It so desperately need you.
I would vote for Michael this time. I would never vote for Gavin. I live in California & have a love of this state. I abhor the politics & what politics is doing to this beautiful state. Please run again!
Gavin is part of an oligarch family, Getty. Then you have his aunt pelosi. This is a dynasty and they are untouchable at this time. We all know this and 40 million Californians know this as well and they still are powerless to unseat these tyrants even with massive cost of living and high taxes.
Our country could turn on a dime if we could abolish the filthy lying criminal supposed legacy media . It is astonishing how any clear thinking american can swallow the rot they put out 24/7 . Thank you two , what a great conversation. @@sirrathersplendid4825
Great conversation, gentlemen. As an American who has lived outside of the USA since 1983, I'm a bit sad that there was no mention of the damage done to the USA by making "being rich" more important than being a good person. This rubrik now underlines politics, education, most career choices, the justice system, homelessness, the media and on and on. I do not find that to be true in the other 4 countries I have since lived in. Otherwise, some great observations. Thank you.
@@Chris-dt5td Valuing money - the attainment of material riches - and _only_ money, _above all else_ *is* the ideology. That's the point! What is an 'ideology' except another way of saying 'value system' (or, 'system of values'). Which describes a _hierarchy_ of values. And what is *most* valued? Money. The love of which is the root of all evil, it has been said.
@@susanmellups3207Since I'm German, let me give you a recent example: In the city of Solingen, a Syrian immigrant, which by the law was ordered to be deported two years ago, stabbed three people to death on a "diversity festival" (Fest der Vielfalt). The evening news announced that it might have been an anti-immigrant attack, which at the time was already known not to be the case. Things like this happen on a regular basis and people warning against it have been labelled 'extremists' etc. for decades. At the same time, there are things like two gang (!) rapes a day going on in the background 🙂
@@friedrichhamer8550 This is the same agenda throughout all nations that have been democratic. The globalists have made it quite clear what their agendas was since the 90s. The labeling of these who oppose the illegal migration campaigns as far right extremists is their instructions to their sheep that these people sit outside of democracy and therefor do not deserve to have a voice in the democratic processes. The mass migrations are simple to explain if you study any tyranny from history. They need soldiers they can count upon to follow orders especially orders against their own friends and families. There's basically 2 governing styles that have a high potential of devolving into tyrannies those being democracies and oligarchs. They all count on a corrupting of existing institutions and agencies rendering them incapable of providing their checks and balances. Their migrant troops need to be spread throughout the lands awaiting their signal at which time the UN will provide us all an event we will need saved from and coincidentally they will be able to enact a world wide Marshall law and clamping down on the information commons to protect our simple minds from being too stupid. Once we allow them to get to that point they are very difficult to destroy in fact most will collapse themselves but they will take as much of normal society out with them. The leftist progressive socialist mentality is shared in all these nations you see devolving into riots and chaos as their party has been hijacked by their globalist elite puppet masters. No way to vote your way out from these maniacs.
What a fantastic long form / I love Michael he is truly an American asset and a gem of a human being. So intelligent yet so reasonable. This is the first time Ive seen your show I will certainly subscribe . I have been a Political Activist for so long and have very similar views as Michael does but I surely am the sweetest human being until it comes to Politics. I lost all of my teeth that had been 89% rebuilt by hand by a caring and kind dentist that I was sent to after my own dentist at an overdue by a year appointment freaked out and asked what happened to my teeth> 2015 was attacked by a homeless crack addict and my whole face was broken, had sinus cavity shattered and post concussive memory loss. I only remember seeing him lift his arm up in a fist and thinking" omg run" and feeling frozen. Then being in the arms of a police officer. Then nothing and waking up in the ER, I followed up w a plastic surgeon who never said a word about damage to the root line on my teeth. i had a new dentist who saved my teeth when the cavities began I was losing whole pieces of teeth , I needed rop and bottom root canals and was referred out and was called back. ( it was bad enough bc in 2010 a spine surgeon destroyed my entire spine by doing what would make him the most dough instead of what was needed if needed at all, i was a nurse and started in radiology so I understood he was fear mongering, ffwd. just waiting for a date for top root canals and having a horrible time with partial plates but no one could tell bc it looked like i had a,,all my teeth. then came covid . b-ing on SSDI knowing my divers educational/work/life exp was all over and its just bc Tragedy & Triumph were the them of my life since birth but i worked hard and did more than most so lok downs w.o root canals or partials or even care directions bc it happened so quick. I lost all but the four teeth with caps and crowns it took too many * I CALL THEM TOOTH INSURANCE MILLS BC NOW MOST WHO TAKE WELFARE INS. WHICH IS WHAR U GET WIRH OBAMACARE STIL IN PLACE WITH BIDENOMICS AND LIVE IN 2ND MOST WOKE OVERVACCINATED STATEOF MA. MY degree in effective communications after teeth done=was going to be my ticket out , i have a great PCP its the rest and splitting human beings into one size fits all care. I HATE MEDICAL BUROCRACY. Political ignorance is way 2 high . People in Red states who think anything will changed when kamala is just as bad as joe only Radical left . is scary to people like me who are feeling it for four years esp. the last tow. anyhow. I LOVED THE INTERVIEW. I LOVE THAT MICHAEL DOESN'T MINSE WORDS BUT IS VERY GOOD AT BRINGING CALM TO CHAOS.MY DAD BEGAN TEACHING ME POITICS AT AGE FOUR AND IM GLAD NOW. WELLOTHER THAN SEEING COMMUNISM IN MY OWN COUNTRY AND PEOPLE STILL GOING TO WRONG SOURSES FOR INFO. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE OUT INTERVIEING AND TEACHING AND i LOVE THE STAGE NOT BECAUSE i LIKE ATTENTION, I DONLT I LIKE KNOWING I HAVE 2,40 MINS TO GET THE AUDIENCE ENGANGED OR WILL LOSE THEM. I LIKE HELPING PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO EMPOWER AND LISTENING TO OTHERS BC I DON;T KNOW ALL AND IF i RUN FOR PRESIDENT I WOULD ABSOLUTELY WANT MICHAL TO HAVE A VERY BLACE IN MY CABINET MAYBE. BUT I THINK I WOULD HAVE A NEW POSITION PEO AS WH DIRCTOR OF PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS AS A PERSON ABOVE A PRESS SECRETARY WHO WOULD DO WEEKLY UPDATES AND A WEEKLY Q & A THAT COULD BE DONE WITH ANYONE RIGHT ON AN INTERACTIVE WEBSITE. YEAH. TY AGAIN!
I Love Shellenberger but EVEN after shabby treatment by the democrats he still can't be as hard on them as they deserve. Being a gracious man is at odds with absolute honesty.
I remain suspicious of Shellenberger having come out of the George Soros umbrella. Slowly I'm coming around. Converts make good spokesmen for their new homebase.
"It has been frequently remarked that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force." -Alexander Hamilton, Federalist, 1.
The most dangerous time in history is right now, and the main drivers for all this fragility has come from this tiny but incredibly wealthy group of people. The grand irony is that they are now right on the brink of losing everything they hold most important, their wealth and power over the human race. Are they smart enough to change their game, or has it become an ingrained pattern they can't escape, and we will all feel the pain of the civilization collapse they are driving?
Please learn more history. This is far from the most dangerous time. Cuban missile crisis? Black plague? The assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand? Very scary times. History is the record of existential threats, usually kicked off by a few people. This is it until the next one. But you're right that it's infuriating. It calls for the ol' "throw the bums out" action.
Please learn more history. This is far from the most dangerous time. Cuban missile crisis? Black plague? The assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand? Very scary times. History is the record of existential threats, usually kicked off by a few people. This is it until the next one. But you're right that it's infuriating. It calls for the ol' "throw the bums out" action.
Hi there, friends. I'm excited to share this conversation with Michael Shellenberger! We've also got even MORE with Michael getting ready to post for our subscribers over at DadSavesAmerica.com So be sure to head over there and subscribe. It's FREE to subscriber (though paid support is very much appreciated), and it will help make sure you never miss our latest content, regardless of how the TH-cam algorithmic winds blow. Outline: [0:00] Elites have lost our trust [6:43] How populism took over the Right [11:23] California is out of control [24:01] Everyone knew Biden was losing it [30:43] No, the internet isn’t making us gullible [44:33] Free speech on social media [56:24] The risk of audience capture [1:03:14] We need courageous public voices [1:07:39] Raising kids, therapy, and the hero’s journey [1:15:31] Victor Frankl and “Man’s Search for Meaning” [1:22:11] Coddling disconnects kids from physical reality [1:33:29] Can a free society survive without faith? [1:43:12] Does northern Europe have it figured out? [1:50:14] Journalism, activism, and service
1:30:50 Thank you for saying this out loud! Chivalry IS a virtue. As a woman, I think feminism has made a massive error in teaching women to devalue and discourage it. We are only beginning to see the tragic consequences. I’m grateful to every man who embraces his inner protector to stand up for women and children, and who teaches his sons by example.
To a society that is sufficiently abstract, reality is nearly incomprehensible. Forcing college and higher learning on ourselves has had the exact opposite effect
Education is not what it was. University graduates would now struggle with the last year of primary school.Look at some old text books. No one is taught to think now. They are not educated they are trained for a narrow specialist role at best, and brainwashed.
Gentlemen-Your grasp on the reality of the reality of this world is astoundingly refreshing. Rarely do I watch a conversation and am not able to disagree with at least one aspect of what I am hearing. Thank you for shedding light on various subjects and filling in on the ones I wasn't aware. I am elated that we share the same beliefs on God and I look forward to hearing more from both of you. All of God's blessings be upon you, your families, and all who you love. God bless and protect America and The West from all who wish our destruction and are actively pursuing it-externally and from within!
My wife is reading about all the proposed nonsense tax increases the “advocates” and “activists” (and the communists) are pushing for in Community Impact. As if they aren’t getting increased revenue from our population growth. These people are like spoiled trust fund brats, playing with other people’s money. Ugh.
@DadSavesAmerica Basically, the government has become the Mafia! We are all slaves to them! They want everything taken away from us! Our religious freedom in particular!
@@DadSavesAmericain general, most Democrats genuinely believe that the only way someone can excel is if someone else fails so they justify to themselves that these Authoritarian like policies are just because they balance the scales that Capitalism supposedly unbalances.
Well, he has earned that anger in spades. He has connived his entire life, for power, status, and wealth. He's had all of them, but can't enjoy any of it... No retirement for you hidin'.
I agree, there may be some parkinsons, but just raglar ole dementia is more likely. However, I don't actually believe Joe Biden has either one. He's acting. Joe Biden has given two speeches he personally cares about, was after the Russia invasion he did the SOTU and at the post sassy nation speech. Biden didn't stutter. lolz. My theory is that biden understands the political machines and is a monster of the swamp, so when he doesn't care, he just shuffles around and mumbles. When he doesn't want any more sassy nations and he doesn't want Russia to win in Ukraine, he knows he has to look into the camera, and say "Russia will not win in Ukraine" and "We don't condone political violence". Biden is a tricky old POS mfer. He has literally farted on a princess in the British royal family because his family is Irish Catholic, and they hate the Brits. Biden wasn't invited to the Coronation of the King of England because they knew he wouldn't go. And his main bill was the Inflation Reduction Act, it was a bunch of greenie crap, but its initials were IRA. You arent using your brain if you think Joe Biden has dementia OR parky. He has a case of Im too old for this shtt.
When Joe Biden delivered the SOTU, and he had his mic on still, and he walked down from the podium, and Joe Biden had a hot mic moment when he said "Netanyahoo needs a come to jesus moment" He didn't stutter my man. He is not dementia OR parky. He uses dementia and Parky when he just doesn't give a fck.
@@MG-me7iw My point was simply that Biden’s possible Parkinson’s is immaterial to his governance, whereas his obvious cognitive (and character) issues are. But I guess I made you feel inferior, hence your “sarcasm”. Sorry, friend!
This question always reminds me of this quote. “Shower him with all earthly blessings, drown him in happiness completely, over his head, so that only bubbles pop up on the surface of happiness, as on water; give him such economic satisfaction that he no longer has anything left to do at all except sleep, eat gingerbread, and worry about the noncessation of world history - and it is here, just here, that he, this man, out of sheer ingratitude, out of sheer lampoonery, will do something nasty. He will even risk his gingerbread, and wish on purpose for the most pernicious nonsense, the most non-economical meaninglessness, solely in order to mix into all this positive good sense his own pernicious fantastical element.” Dostoevsky
Brilliant discussion Excellent Analysis Thank you Sir I agree!! Thanks for having him on, great guest I love your work, and I always love listening to you Mike Thank you gentlemen Thank you both
Every episode with Francisco Gil-white is a hit! Please continue bringing him on. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for your support of Jewish people. ❤
I’m have my own business and didn’t even go to HS. I love nothing more than interviewing 22 year olds that filled out the application under “relevant history” where they talk about their GPA or some useless degree in nonsense like communications. I always say something like “you’re an adult. I don’t care what you did in school. What have you ever done that was useful to anyone. Give me a reason to hire you.” Invariably they tell me about some class or class project cause they simply can’t wrap their minds around all the years and money they wasted. I often end with “how will that help you fix it if one of my machines breaks? I’m sorry but no one cares about how many years you pissed away. Have a good day.” Happens once every month or so. Admittedly, my joy is alittle shameful. But I really am trying to help them by being harsh. Trying to undo the lies that have been smashed into their brains.
it's about time we really did something about how our society is structured to benefit the privileged few but sitting here writing youtube comments does nothing
Very good conversation involving complicated subjects. I did not know who Michael was before this video, but I’m very glad I chose to watch this. California would be wise to listen to this man. Interesting description regarding current generation disconnect between reality and speech. Kudo’s to both of you regarding dialogue that’s missing in today’s America. Thank you.
My only disagreement with this discussion is the use of the term ELITE. The definition of elite: A group or class of persons considered to be superior to others because of their intelligence, social standing, or wealth. A member of such a group. The best or most skilled members of a group. Elites in history have been leaders in society working to save or further society. The current collection of upperclassmen don't behave as elites but more akin to PARASITES. PARASITES: (Biology) An organism that lives and feeds on or in an organism of a different species and causes harm to its host. One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return. THIS IS A MUCH BETTER DESCRIPTION OF THIS RULING CLASS.
Michael, living in California, I sure hope your on the ballot here, we could use some common sense, intelligence, and integrity, once again in San Francisco. Come back and help us fight for California.
First time listener. Wonderful conversation. I loved how you were able to cover so many topics and yet go deeply. And as a Catholic revert myself, congratulations on opening your heart to your faith. Once you start reading the church, fathers, Saint Aquinas and delving in, I’m sure you’ll find that it is an almost limitless amount of wisdom and beauty to be discovered. Not to mention the mystery , and wonder of the Mass and Eucharistic adoration.
Thank you so much, and for the great encouragement. I’ve gotta say that my wife and I are feeling the presence of Christ in our lives and marriage like never before and it is an AWESOME adventure. My son just finished his first week in Rome as a new student, just 18 minutes walking from the Vatican. You’re going to see this play weave into our content more and more in the months ahead. Glad to have you here.
Woman wake up everyday to compete with the truth who physically can't move. Because of the competition. Competition IS jealousy. The truth is sick, forever.
And finding your way through a minefield of big lies. It takes work to parse through it, but it can be done. Then, discuss the real humanity problems..
I love Michael Shellenberger! He's brave, and he says what needs to be said, and he never gives up. Sadly, he blocked me on Twitter years ago, so i can't help him there.
How about an ideology which has for hundreds of years imposed their dictates onto millions worldwide. Subjugation and oppression is something we frown upon but this ideology gets a free pass?
Look at any number of progressive elected representatives LinkedIn pages. It's ALWAYS the same trajectory. University > Grad School > Aide or Campaign Worker> Elected Position. Never anything regarding running or even working for an actual business.
It seems the opposite of what elected officials were supposed to be, retired gentlemen farmers, people who were very successful and had wisdom from life, etc. Instead we get these pipe lined morons.
When someone never works and lives in the reality in which most people exist, it’s impossible for them to comprehend and be understanding of those who do.
Excellent, thanks Maybe also interview: Roya Hakakian : The Professor, His Nemesis, and a Scandal at Oberlin College and or Lawdan Bazargan is an activist and former political prisoner from Iran. These guys were able to take over all the Middle East Centers of universities around the world. Second of all, they had a lot of money. Most of these centers, including the one in Princeton, are backed with dubious money. The goal of the cultural centers was, first of all, surveillance of Iranians abroad. It was secondly to enter the universities and make alliances. There are also these leftist professors in the US that are all upset by colonialism, racism, and all the rest of it. And so they joined the Islamists, not considering the dangers that they pose to our liberal values, to our democratic values.😮
A little critique : him stating he was not of the same "opinion" regarding procedures done to children said to be protective - without giving his reasons - and without acknowledging rfk did not give opinions, but facts, backed by science
With all the insights and research Schellenberger has done, it is beyond my comprehension how he still can question RFK’s stance on vscxcs - there is so much info, research, studies, clinical evidence, historical facts and reality, political-pharma- collusion and corruption and fraud evidence and documented history… what else and more does an intelligent adult.. especially one who already has for himself proven beyond doubt the truth of state-pharma-medical fraud up and down and all over the place, need to stop trusting ‘the science’-narrative-of-the-state about the topic of vsxcs ??!
He says “X isn’t a TOTALLY free speech platform, but that’s impossible”. What’s impossible? Why not just follow the speech laws we already have when it comes to social media? How has anyone come to the conclusion that it’s not possible to have totally free speech on the internet? And I don’t mean child P. That’s already illegal. I’m talking about just following the laws we’ve had for centuries. Seems like basic stuff
This starts off great - Shellenberg is about to offer his take on why the elite want to destory their own society - but then the host cuts him off, asks if it has to do with Amtrak and ... never gets back to the key question!.
What are you trying to say? You want to see elites in action...watch Musk bully everybody he meets. He needs a come-uppamce. We have no democracy and no sympathy for the people who are hurt by their silly games and competitions. Johnathan Swift cover the subject very well in Gulliver's Travels. Modern elites make Swift's ridiculous characters lnto role models. Elites today are far too removed from society to be able to think for it.
I had heard of Shellenberger but didn’t know much about his work or core values. This interview was very informative and I am glad I took the time to listen it.
Great interview! I've been following Michael Shellenberger for a few years now, your line of questioning took him to areas I've never heard him explore before. Well done.
Thanks for this feedback. Doing something different with Michael given how much is out there was my #1 effort and, honestly, worry heading into this interview. I’m really glad to hear I put a few points on the unique scoreboard.
It's a useful shorthand, if used with the modifier: 'so-called and self-proclaimed'. And they're an international, supra-national, 'overclass', not just an American clique.
As a child I grasped optimism and internalized “success is never final, failure is never fatal, it’s courage that counts.” After multiple career changes and geographical locations, I’m now retired and embrace the idea “when you’ve lived more years than you have left, you don’t sweat the small stuff - and it’s all small stuff.”
One of the arguments I hate most is that conspiracies don’t happen “because it would be too hard to keep it quiet.” No, it wouldn’t. Most conspiracies only require a tiny handful of people.
We lost spiritual awareness. Awareness of ourself, who we are, what we need and how gain that. We are bombed with (dis)iformation, abused and abusing each other to the level of madness, living in slavery and call it democracy.
Freedom, however, is not the last word. Freedom is only part of the story and half of the truth. Freedom is but the negative aspect of the whole phenomenon whose positive aspect is responsibleness. In fact, freedom is in danger of degenerating into mere arbitrariness unless it is lived in terms of responsibleness. That is why I recommend that the Statue of Liberty on the East Coast be supplemented by a Statue of Responsibility on the West Coast - Frankl
It's the mind virus called Marxism. I know because a cell tried to recrute me in 1970. .. I ignored them and went back to commplete my engineering degree. Later, when I had spare time, I studied up. Marxism uses all the same brainwashing elements used by cults. [It's obvious] Step 1 in Marxism is to DESTROY the current system; also called REVOLUTION. .. That's why Walz enjoys the smell of burning tires. Why don't people get it ?? Why are you people so sTupid0 ?? Get a clue.
![[MV] A leap of faith...ความเชื่อใจครั้งสุดท้าย (From "Petrichor the series")](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1piZH2CNXA/mqdefault.jpg)
I’m a farmer from Holland. It’s really encouraging to hear Shellenberger acknowledge that the farmers have been denigrated and disrespected by politicians and public opinion in a horrible way.
Been that way for decades in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. We provide them food, and get ridiculed, and oppressed by everyone who don't farm. They judge us on appearance and not by our contribution and hard work.
It seems public opinion is coming around. There has been a shift building among the general population to get away from processed foods which requires supporting local farmers. The problem with the politicians are the lobbyists for Big Ag corporations. And as briefly mentioned in the interview above, when a man's paycheck depends on him believing and defending a bad thing, it's nearly impossible to convince him otherwise.
@@jameslee-dp6cbwhite southerners are the only outlet for their bigotry
@@jameslee-dp6cb Democrats
@@jameslee-dp6cbyou have still the values and way if life tradicional to the Aryan j€us want to end That
"They face no consequences for their bad ideas." - Thomas Sowell
TH-cam has a decent video lasting about 2 hours refuting Sowell's book on Economics; basically refuting him convincingly, at least on that topic.
@@Lovin_It where is the link ?
@@Lovin_It whatever you refer to is false on it's face.
Not yet but it will come it cannot carry on like this 🤔we all had enough 🤷♂️😡
@@Lovin_It Sowell is an ideologue cloaked in cherry picked ‘scholarship’. A shill for right wing talking points. ‘Obama was the worst president ever.’ Really?
I live in California, my husband and I are voting for Trump. We are Latinos. We are in our 70’s. Lived CA all our lives. The Democrat Party left us we are now Republicans.
1 1/2% of the population are farmers, yet 100% of us eat food!
Somebody gotta run electricity everywhere...
People love electricians, til it's time to write the check...
City allows for very dumb people as a herd takes care of them. City people stuck thinking it is 1700s and don't realize cars and internet makes country people not disadvantaged. Today it is the rich who live in the country (away from crime) and majority of poor living in cities for welfare and handouts. NOFA- farming was taken over by fart sniffing elitists.
less than .06% of the population are dentists, yet we all have teeth!
That's the U.S. population -- but we import most of our food. Now ask how many people farmers employ! One quarter of the world population is a farm worker! Shellenberger sure knows how to lie with statistics! Either that, or her believes lies & goes around repeating them without truly analyzing the statistic. Isn't he also the guy that says the average American has one breast and one testicle?
Very dangerous when non farmers try to tell farmers what to do. Like a backseat driver who has never driven telling the racecar driver how to drive.
I am a 33 year old white man. Never voted Trump yet. This Nov I will be voting for him for the first time.
I have 2 children(my oldest is half mexican) my 2nd child is white... The far left lost my vote when they began pushing all that gender ideology white guilt crap. I dont want that for my kids. I dont want that for americans that look like we do ❤
That and I miss $2 gallons of gas.
The DNC has been taking a piss this last decade and anyone who cant see that is spiritually blind.
🇺🇲🦅
@@deusvult6259 bout time you pull your head outta your ass...
Vote Jill Stein...
get electoral change
& stop elite robbery
Welcome to the great awakening', question everything!
Make Operation Warp Speed Great Again, yeah? Go Trump?
That was seriously valuable to listen to.
The only thing I have ever heard Kennedy say on vaccines, is that they need appropriate testing. I was horrified, as a retired RN, to learn that my whole career, I had promoted vaccines that were not tested against a true placebo, but rather against another vaccine. That is not science. I’m with Kennedy. Do proper testing. Autism is out of control- Why? If it’s not vaccines then what. I think that is what Kennedy is saying.
Hi . They know that the rise came in 1987 . Someone got hmo data . They said that was the year.
Yes, I am very disappointed to hear Shellenberger say that he trusts vaccines. He is a great example of confirmation bias-chose not to research, then I can stay in my bubble.
The more you use tech the more autistic you tend to become. Bottlefeeding is so bad for children’s sense of organic life and it only snowballs from there. Many babies can hardly make eye contact with their mums for devices. You don’t need vaccines to explain autism
@@robinleeearleebird8284 I also trust the (tested and time proved) vaccines, but am increasingly concerned with the lack of proper testing and the haphazard ways pharmaceutical companies (and other industries in general) control the quality of products. Many of us, and I suspect Shallenberger is one, are trying not to throw the baby away with the bath water i.e. descredit the entire vaccination protocols due to the greed and inneficiency of big pharma on the latest decade. The outbreaks are growing and becoming more serious due to the suspicious minds.
Paternal age. Have kids younger.
Shellenberger is the man. Not just on the topics discussed here, but in fact he challenges elites who override the wishes of the people on a multitude of subjects, some not even mentioned here. A great voice of rationality.
He had some lame takes. That or he was bullsh!tting us, when he gave his reasons for not releasing an article on Biden's clear and obvious dementia. It was NOT speculative. Like there is concrete evidence for it other than observation. Just a stupid thing to say, it was plain as day to anyone who has had a parent with dementia or been a professional who has worked with patients that have it. FFS that's like saying it's speculative when someone is dead because they got their head cut off, better run some tests first to make sure he's really dead 🙄
But the elites are simply practicing capitalism in which everything is a commodity including politicians. Want better results purchase a few politicians. It's far more effective that voting.
There should be more transparency in government as well as an investigation, efficiency study, and an overhaul from top to bottom. If it hadn’t been for X and independent news outlets we would still be in and continue to be in the dark. Networks have hidden the truth for profit.Mr Musk is not a monarch. Please stop mischaracterizing and demonizing.
Yes, but I would argue he's part of the elites himself.
@@rigelb9025 Shellenberger for all intents and purposes is a limited hangout who wants to simply "reform" the elites through cordial persuasion, not make them accountable and facilitate power to the American citizenry.
I'm a simple man; i see a Shellenberger interview, i click.
Same
Simple doesn't mean stupid though
Shellenberger and Whitney Webb are two of the best investigative journalists alive. I hope they continue to stay safe.
I think the reason they did not ( the elites) recognize the Biden problem a year ago and have an open primary was precisely because they wanted to maintain FULL control over am Mt suit , so to speak. Aka Kamala ..so in order to control the process to put her in the replacement position, they had to wait till there was little to no push back and not time for her to conduct a " real" campaign.
They could present her as someone she's not. Pump up her popularity. Taking full advantage of desperate, shocked, embarrassed, AND in some cases exposed democrat voters which helps the cause of the plan. The plan being, move quickly, lie profusely,
subverting the publics ability to
be reminded and informed how
awful she is.
,
Me too!!! He makes so much sense and has personal integrity. Powerful combination ❤
America looks down on their farmers and truck drivers. The arrogance and ignorance is astounding. These are the very people that feed you
Looks down on anybody who actually keeps society going it’s not just them.
Not Americans in general, just the snobby ones who often live in urban areas. Conservatives (and many moderates) tend to support truckers and farmers (also usually conservatives).
I was in San Francisco in 1989 IT’s was a beautiful city in every way I don’t remember seeing any homeless or rundown buildings. What a shame
We had farm aid for years I don’t know anyone that looks down on farmers
@@TheMikesylvfactory farmers.
I was physically close to Gavin Newsom during the ceremony when Southwest Airlines returned to SFO Airport in 2007. I felt like I needed a shower to remove the slime afterward.
For too long the power has rested in the hands of the same privileged few, failing to listen to those who had the least amount of power, who lack advocacy. Thank you Michael Shellenberger.
Yep but the elites have always wanted it master /slave
The reason slavery was abolished wasn’t due to altruism it was because so many slaves escaped etc it was impossible for the insurers in London to price effectively.
Now with technology, AI etc the elites finally don’t think they need the buy in from the average person.
But they aren’t too gung ho ( the pandemic was a big move by them - the gloves came off ) - it’s a boiling frog strategy,
Look into Catherine Austin Fitts work on this re slavery.
As for totalitarian states - Jim marrs said a decade ago we had nearly all of the characteristics of one then.
Its not the SAME privileged few -- NOT predominantly the WASPs of the 20th Century Although left wing activists want to pretend as much. ALL current popular measures of income inequality ignore the income of age demographics moving through from unemployed youth,... to peak earning capacity years...to unemployed age.
A person can be living in a paid off condo or house with a late model or 5byr old paid-off car and all manner of possessions and appliances and kitchenware and clothing and sheets & towels and electronic entertainment devices -- and still register below the poverty level on income metrics and have low no financial assets.
That differs from people with the same income in the entry level job market -- trying to lease new cars because they can't afford to buy or fix used ones, and trying to rent expensive one or two bedroom apartments or a full floor in a dilapidated duplex in a deteriorating neighborhood -- sometimes sharing dwellings with strangers with incompatible habits. Then there's everybody in- between. You can't always tell what people have by where they live or looking at them.
Further confounding statistics on the arc of ubcome & acquisitoon are successful criminals selling drugs and robbing bodegas, yet seemingly unlikely to go straight and buy a bodega, keep books and pay taxes-- but instead, remain in some dangerous neighborhood and fritter away their ill-gotten gains until they have little choice but to return to supplementing with crime whatever legit income lets them even appear on the radar and qualify as below poverty level.
Sociology and political science students should beware of liars, damn liars, and statistical liars.
The underfunded nature of the justice system and the lack of public defenders results in many law breakers being incarcerated for minor criminal activity, when in fact -- guilty or innocent -- they have capitulated to plea bargaining -- chronicly pleading guilty to minor non-violent offenses, creating outward appearances of over-policing.
If you get mugged on the street or your dwelling ir vehicle gets broken into, the person that shows up isn't Sherlock Holmes bent on solving the crime...or some experienced and dedicated investigator from a track down tv show taking fingerprints and looking at every surveillance camera. When crime statistics fall the cause often a reduction in arrests or prosecutions, an on-the-job symptom of undiagnosed blue flu.
Partially true. America had social mobility, therefore many people rose to the higher echelon. What we need to be talking about, is the rise of nefarious Leftist-nihilist ideologues followed by the cohorts of appeasers, opportunists, narcissists and spineless executors.
The elites tried to sway me into being part of their agendas.... Even wanted to pay me off.... Nope! They FEAR ME, more than I have any reason to fear them... I'm The Shadow Man! Twin Identities... One has that Democrat Smile...... The other is your worst nightmare! people in power fear me... to the point where they are trying to use others to get to me...
So now we're privilege shaming? Get some privilege and take control of your life.
My unsolicited comment is as long as a person is paralyzed by the fears of losing friends or be labeled a failure will never muster the courage needed to face enemies. The bottomline is, until a person loses their fear of pain and ultimately, DEATH, they will be wishy-washy. Our fear of DEATH is how they control us (see Covid). The only solution for our lack of courage is Faith.
I think your comment is profound, realistic and depressing at the same time because the overwhelming majority of people who do not have faith, only religions, are inhabited and lead by greed and fear. I've lived in a communist dictatorship for forty years and this attitude was valid before and even more so after 1989. Before 1989 it was fear mostly, afterwards it's been unleashed greed. Faith is to be lived, not mimed. So is integrity.
@@mihaelacomanescu couldn’t agree more, thank you for your feedback!
Absolutely. You nailed it.
@@mihaelacomanescu You beat me to it, was going to say this more or less.
Amen to that.
There are only two industries in this world:
1. Farming.
2. Mining.
The rest of us owe our jobs to these two industries. We all have benefited from their intellect, innovation & hard work. Time to pay them gratitude & respect.
A few more for your list: Fishing (ok, a form of farming), Forestry (again, perhaps a form of farming), and Building (both places to protect us from the elements and comms between them).
Technically all you’ve listed cannot happen without farming or mining. But great list nonetheless.
And done without monopoly and greed, with welfare for health of all, we’d have a societal chance.
I agree, and the sad part is that those who do those crucial tasks are not appreciated enough and often denigrated by the ignorant and those in political power.
@@josephbrown9685agreed. But there’s nothing new under the sun… look at history - the Russian Kulaks are a tragic example of this. 😢
Thanks Michael. I have been saying this about the elites for a long time - they had a system that gave them the freedom to become innovative and prosperous and now they want to shut the door. I have always said, Obama had a great chance to show and talk about how, in this system, he was able to rise all the way to the top. But he played the victim and divided us and talked about how awful the country is.
He had to be the biggest disappointment to the Black population. He started all the division of the races, DEI, transgender ism.
Michael is a great thinker and so glad he is out there exposing this.
There needs to be another term. "Elite" has a positive. Imagine if elites Didn't want gain of function labs to exist
They never lost integrity! They threw it away!
They never had it.
... "They" didn't throw it away with the best of intentions but according to a plan to cause the people in their countries to lose faith in the government of those countries "they" represent ... En route to global occupation. Listen to me, JFK wasn't lying when he warned that their was a plan by "covet means (banks)" etc to "enslave every man, woman and child" and I personally think as I've written in my book Joe Biden and Kamala Harris by Perris Jackson that "they" already created the template government "they" want to spread worldwide and it's already up and running i.e. / e.g. in China.
That's why "they" create covid 19 at Univeersity of Chapel Hill, in NC and while working hand in hand with communist chinese government meaning Barack Obama and Joe Biden and Fauci and the like... "they" laboring together "to cause a pandemic" which downgrades in many ways citizens lives in free countries and reinforces the slavery people exist in ... in places like China where Nike is ok to be using slave labor to make air jordans and apple iphones are ok to be made there in communist china as well using slaves in china to manufacture them and no one in the world is speaking out againt that ... [as USA is being destroyed from within by communist such as Kamala Harris]
@@aspensulphateyeah, that’s where my thoughts went. One cannot lose what one never had.
Evil was insidious and played the long game. The most evil now control the entire planet. This is in the Jewish scriptures. The earth has an evil demi-god ruler according to the occult Jewish texts.
It's kinda bizarre to see such smart people finally understand how bad things are on the left. It's been obvious for decades that standing for nothing, especially self responsibility is always a bad idea. How could it take guys like this so long to open their eyes. It's fascinating.
Sadly. Shellenberger will still vote Democrat!
@@carolmcln5028I doubt that. He said he couldn’t morally run as a democrat so why would he vote for one?
Yep. They think they’re smart for seeing what a blind man could see in the 90’s
Well, when you worship money as a philosophy of life and partake in the overconsumption psyop, you become this superficial animal that can be easily manipulated. This over communicated social media is transforming the human mind in ways that were unthinkable and what it is showing is that humans are a lot more primitive that imagined even in this modern world. Left to their own mental decisions and information overload, they mostly tend to become demented and weird in many ways.
Not at all "smart people finally understand"> This is a nrrative that is not reality based. Note they do not cite reality based examples, but speak in vague generalities.
My siblings and I were born in the latter half of the 50s/early 60s. My mom said when we were each babies and still living in Brooklyn New York, she used to go into the small stores and markets and leave the baby carriage outside with our sleeping sibling in it. I can remember my brother, born in ‘63, outside our house sleeping in his carriage.
That is so sweet, I heard they did it in Scotland so the babies had fresh air. Brooklyn must have been magical then,
I am in rural north GA and I remember this time (early 60's) the same. My mother would leave us in the car just outside the local drug or grocery store to run in a pick up something without a thought. Our community was safe and people looked after everyone else. I look around now and think, how have we gotten where we are!? Americans are a beautiful people yet there seems to be an evil lurking.
@@controlgroup01just look at when the Dulles Brothers created the DOD and all those 3 letter agencies that predate on Americans. Just like crack in the 80s, crime and all manner of social evils have been perpetrated by your own criminal government to destabilize the people and usurp their political authority.
@@controlgroup01my mom did the same. Evil is always lurking, like a tiger getting ready to roar, beware.
My time in Donetsk area of Ukraine I had married a 25 year old and we had 2 sons born 2008 & 2010, both born in February. She started stroking them outside for at least 2 hours per day within their first week after birth. They’d fall asleep almost instantly and she couldn’t come in until they woke from their nap. So, it still goes on in countries furthest from western society. My favorite memory from those 5 years was when I was back in the States for a short trip and she contacted me to say “Michael, I need a hot coat.”
Confused I asked what she means by hot, “Hot? Like sexy looking?” “No!” She exclaimed, I need hot coat that I won’t be so called when I take Danny for walk. And I need that it covet my ass” 🤣🤣🤣 She used ass the same as polite conversationalists use butt or bottom. She is 1.89 meter tall. All leg. found a lovely cream colored goose down long coat that come down to her mid calf. She loved it. And it kept her toasty while she sat on frozen park benches while our infant slumbered in a full body suit of inverted sheep skin you can’t find in my country
Thank you - I can’t remember the last time I listened to such reasonable, common sense brilliance in America today
Thank you my friend.
@@DadSavesAmerica There are no heifers on a dairy farm. A heifer is a cow that has not been bred. Unbred cows don't give milk.
It is called Common Sense.
“An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes.” - Sun Tzu
1500 years later nothing has changed it's still the same
Can we find a term other than "elites?" Oligarchs, perhaps?
Powers and principalities, ruling class, controllers.
Ephesians KJV 6:12 “Principalities and Powers”
Why? They exist in reality. I think of elites as the offspring of Oligarchs. Oligarchs originated centuries ago.
Jews
@@truecatholic1 this is kinda funny gotta be honest.
Well, most of us KNOW they're lying about everything....
People tend to believe that things were good and then it fell off the rails. Actually this shitshow was designed to be the shitshow that it is.
Chaos is the friend of the manipulative class.
please define "elite" and "Manipulative class"
@@daveandlunatube globalist and zionist... both are jews. Not all jews bad but most support and believe the rest of humans on earth are placed here by god to be the Jews's slave. judaism = communism
Those who hold the purse strings and buy social political and propaganda control
Babylonian money masters
@@jeanalice4732yup
Our leaders need to be honest, transparent and held accountable. Once this happens, things will improve DRAMATICALLY.
The two parties are corrupt and only corrupt politicians make it to the big dance. If you don't along with the program you aren't backed by the party, hard to overcome.
@@mikeballard8404 Corrupted by who? Who is corrupting them?
@@presterjohn1697
Honest question here, you're saying that you really don't know?
@@CmonManReally Seems like it's mostly billionaire who's wealth allows them to purchase government officials outright.
But why are we complaining. Our current economic model allows everything to be commodified. Are we supposed to put restrictions on billionaires buying elected officials? That sounds like regulations and I thought we were supposed to be against regulating anything.
@@presterjohn1697 you summed that up perfectly.
There are two variables regarding human nature and economic class systems. They are emotional, not intellectual. The wealthy, those who make money, not earn money, have two things on their mind and you only need to focus on these two things to understand them; 1. They want to be "above it all". They dream about the rules not applying to them. We know what this means. 2. They fear of losing it all. Wealthy people fear most of being poor, so they must oppress the less fortunate to assure themselves of their status. And there you have the motivations of the elite. They live in denial about the real world because they chose the evil of fear, instead of the solutions which comes from faith in the future and people.
That is such an excellent summation of the situation. I’ve never seen it put in writing like that before, and it makes so much sense.
Very well put! I'd also add that it comes down, ultimately, to power. The desire for ultimate power. And, what does power want? As you point out, first and foremost, to _maintain_ power. And, the other purpose of power is to _increase_ power. Money is just one (though perhaps the primary) _instrument_ of exercising power. It's a means to an end. Money being (one of) the means, power being the end. And, when it comes to desire - for money, but especially for power - there is no limit to greed. Hence the creeping totalitarianism we see (if one chooses to look) all around us.
@@GjVj The new currency is power. They would exchange money for power if it came down to it.
@@ericwilliams626 I don't disagree, at all. And yes, they absolutely do buy power with their money - that's what it's for.
It's the mind-virus called MARXISM.
Get a clue.
Raising kids is not rocket science it's just common sense. Protect your kids from all adversity...don't be surprised if they become whimps. When I was growing up in the 1950s my dad was a great believer in letting his kids take risks. My mother, not so much. The conversation would go something like this, Mom: "He's going to get hurt!" Dad: "He's got to learn through making his own mistakes!"
"my dad was a great believer in letting his kids take risks. My mother, not so much." this says it all, and so true
When my children hurt themselves my husband would always say "Well they won't do that again".
I agree partially, yes it is good to take risks but not foolish risks. A friend of mine taught me that a smart person learns from his one mistakes, a very smart person from other peoples'' mistakes.
@@Chris-dt5td Advising me to learn from other people's mistakes was a constant in my dad's advice to me as a kid.
Common sense is a result of the family being able to teach their knowledge to the next generation. It is even the knowledge of the mentor to its pupils. Once that knowledge is not transmitted, common sense starts to decline. Why? Because many parents expected that their children will learn everything from the education system. And once that generation are parents, unless they reflect on this, they will think that institutions are the only capable of teaching their children even the things that only parents can give. I'm saying this because I see a decline in common sense.
Now, it is not the only problem I see. If children used to be more free to explore, make mistakes, get to know people, etc. Now many of them are more institutionalized. So, they aren't even developing their own intuition and discernment.
Thankyou for a refreshing informed conversation chaps. Greatly appreciated. Been a fan of Michael Shellenberger a while now and liking Dad saves America more each podcast I see. Churr from NZ
It was enjoyable and thought-provoking, but I wonder if they're still missing the core issues:
1. Democracy may be problematic because a society needs informed voters to function effectively.
2. Human evolution has led to intellectual diversity, and in a society that values intelligence, there will naturally be a majority who fall outside the norm.
I feel that avoiding these points is overlooking the reality.
Say hi to Lucinda for me.
Amazing conversation between two extremely honorable men. The world needs more and more of this!!!
That is an incredibly generous thing to say. Thank you. We’re working as hard as we can to get as much truth out there into the world as possible.
@@DadSavesAmerica Francis is an antipope. The pope is Pope Gregory XVIII. See tcwblog. For history and "smoking guns" see the book "The Plot Against the Church."
At least you stood against IVF. I don't trust your interlocutor, but I have already been censored regarding a "controversial" theory about who the real elites are.
This is one of the best conversation / interviews I’ve watched in a very long time 👍
Vivek Ramaswamy on Lex Fridman is another very good one. ✌🏼
Stopped watching TV in 2015. Who do I trust for information? Well, it took a few years of searching but I now trust those who have been right much more than they have been wrong. Shelenberger is one of them.
Shellenberger and Whitney Webb are two of the best investigative journalists out there.
It kills me that with spelling like that, you still call peoples’ intellect into question? Wow.
@@thomasbonnett4800 you bots are getting crazy on here lately.
I am not sure if I can trust completely Whitney. She might be a shill with her never ending doom-gloom. The purpose might be lose hope and stop action.
@chris she isn't doom gloom. She reports the facts with receipts. You can either take action to educate yourself on the information she provides, or you can label her as doom and gloom bc you lack the courage to make change. It's okay, cowards like you won't make it... especially come November. Michael Yon, a war correspondent has a great saying " there are no room in my circle for cowards."
@@Chris-dt5td I think she's a great dot connector, but I prefer her talking about the past than projecting her gloom into the future.
"Let them eat cake"! is an infamous quote handed down form monarchical days. In many ways modern day working class people have become the equivalent of feudalistic peasants who are expected to be quiet and invisible and subservient to the dictates of their "betters". As it has famously been said, "history doesn't repeat itself - but it often rhymes".
President Obama said to Republicans "Give us the keys and get into the back of the bus.".
@@jaykilborn2508 No he didn't - you just made that up
@@johnsullivan5101that's how he rulled.
Marie Antoinette never said it, though. A writer cited a noblewoman as "let them eat brioche" when Marie Antoinette was a child in a different country. It later got attributed to her, unjustly.
Climate change result, and consequence!
7:30 . The Democratic Party engaged in some "machinations." Maybe one of the best euphemisms I've heard today.
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Plus, an understatement!
The destroyed Bernie twice and we all knew that the youth of this country wanted Bernie. These young people were too stupid and lacked money/power to say or do anything to stop the dem party from doing this. Now these young voter are witnessing yet another boomer move and took out biden and placed a historical super weak candidate in his place. They obviously need another puppet so Kamala will do the job. The question is, are the youth of this country going to just vote for Trump because they don’t like being lied to? How in the world can Kamala flip flop on the dem policies and no one not notice the hypocrisy?
Machination is the Republican platform.
I predicted many months in advance that they would keep Joe on the ticket as long as possible in order to avoid having a primary so they could install whomever they want at the last minute.
"It's definitely not a conspiracy", you say? Then how come if I just think of the most basic s I would conspire if I was an evil pos in their position, and time and time again that ends up being exactly what happens? At some point acting like nothing is a conspiracy looks as much like gaslighting as everything else we know is gaslighting.
Man, I barely recognize either of these dudes but this podcast is absolute fire. Full of insight and unique, practical perspectives. Lots of podcast out there critiquing the system (which I love), but this is where "the rubber meets the road".
Dad ... is OK. Shellenberger is wonderful. He has videos and interviews online
He is not in this interview, just listen and enjoy.
@joycehaines2055 who is not in this interview? are you trying to snuff conversational inquiry and interaction? Why arent YOU listening and enjoying?
This has been the most significant meeting I’ve had in along time. I hope they are more Americans like you guys meaning with an open, clear voice to show the craziness we are in right now. Thank you!!!!
My Grandfather had Parkinsons, he was much much sharper than Biden. You see things that make you angry? NOT ANGRY ENOUGH!
Biden has Parkinson's like Dementia from the symptoms. Look up the term, it fits the bill.
I read a third of Parkinson's develop dementia. Obviously Biden is in the 1/3.
1:35:00
on tolerance...
It has struck me in later years that people being proud of their tolerance are missing something. Tolerance means, in this context, not complaining about things you do not like.
I am not a tolerant man. I don't need to be. I'm fine with more or less anything, right up until that thing hurts someone and then I will certainly complain. When I hear someone tell me, and I hear this a lot, that they are a 'very tolerant' person all I really hear is 'there's a lot of things that disgust me but I don't say anything'.
I don't think tolerance is the win many people think it is.
Right. Why tolerate the intolerable. It is ridiculous. Same as complete inclusion. So now males are included as women. Also Elite schools taking people that shouldn't be there. Is it still elite if you take anyone? Same as boy scouts. Shouldn't include girls for sake of inclusivity. This is a time of remarkable stupidity and all trying to wear the face of kindness
We forget that tolerance is a two way street. That is one group can tolerate and not react to another groups behavior and beliefs, but that other group's beliefs, if expressed to much, will oppress and become "intolerant" of the previous group. Therefore, the window to tolerance is very much smaller than window than we believe. The group that is tolerated quickly becomes intolerant to the group that tolerates them either intentionally or unintentionally.
WhaAat?!
@@gretahelphrey7842 Exceedingly pointless post.
Absolutely correct!
Some whistleblower interviews that I would love to see: the accountants for the New York Times, for NPR, for Nancy Pelosi, for BLM, for CNN, etc etc. All of these wretched entities have crazy funding stories, I'm sure
Amen!
I second your 💡 idea! 👍
Amazing content. So refreshing to see that values and virtues haven't been completely snuffed out. God bless you and I pray that our society recovers and values especially Christian ones be restored. We must return to God. This is the result of steering away from our lord Jesus Christ 🙏. Pray every day for our country to become the great country we all cherish , love , and die for. 🙏 please run for California again. It so desperately need you.
As Douglas Murray said”if you don’t want a war, don’t start one”.
I would vote for Michael this time. I would never vote for Gavin. I live in California & have a love of this state. I abhor the politics & what politics is doing to this beautiful state. Please run again!
Gavin is part of an oligarch family, Getty. Then you have his aunt pelosi. This is a dynasty and they are untouchable at this time. We all know this and 40 million Californians know this as well and they still are powerless to unseat these tyrants even with massive cost of living and high taxes.
Unfortunately, I think you are in the minority. Most people can’t seem to connect the dots.
@@MillieMe05- Exactly. Most people are shockingly “low information”, and the elites do their best to keep them that way.
Our country could turn on a dime if we could abolish the filthy lying criminal supposed legacy media . It is astonishing how any clear thinking american can swallow the rot they put out 24/7 . Thank you two , what a great conversation. @@sirrathersplendid4825
Great conversation, gentlemen. As an American who has lived outside of the USA since 1983, I'm a bit sad that there was no mention of the damage done to the USA by making "being rich" more important than being a good person. This rubrik now underlines politics, education, most career choices, the justice system, homelessness, the media and on and on. I do not find that to be true in the other 4 countries I have since lived in. Otherwise, some great observations. Thank you.
Lot of truth to your statement!
Not richness is the problem but bad ideology
@@Chris-dt5td Valuing money - the attainment of material riches - and _only_ money, _above all else_ *is* the ideology. That's the point! What is an 'ideology' except another way of saying 'value system' (or, 'system of values'). Which describes a _hierarchy_ of values. And what is *most* valued? Money. The love of which is the root of all evil, it has been said.
Imo, it all went downhill in the eighties. Seems that's when money became god and propaganda urged everyone to think so.
Watch Germany, France and England.
It’s obvious now!!
Please explain. Watch Germany, France & England for..what?
@@susanmellups3207Since I'm German, let me give you a recent example: In the city of Solingen, a Syrian immigrant, which by the law was ordered to be deported two years ago, stabbed three people to death on a "diversity festival" (Fest der Vielfalt). The evening news announced that it might have been an anti-immigrant attack, which at the time was already known not to be the case. Things like this happen on a regular basis and people warning against it have been labelled 'extremists' etc. for decades. At the same time, there are things like two gang (!) rapes a day going on in the background 🙂
@@friedrichhamer8550 This is the same agenda throughout all nations that have been democratic. The globalists have made it quite clear what their agendas was since the 90s. The labeling of these who oppose the illegal migration campaigns as far right extremists is their instructions to their sheep that these people sit outside of democracy and therefor do not deserve to have a voice in the democratic processes. The mass migrations are simple to explain if you study any tyranny from history. They need soldiers they can count upon to follow orders especially orders against their own friends and families. There's basically 2 governing styles that have a high potential of devolving into tyrannies those being democracies and oligarchs. They all count on a corrupting of existing institutions and agencies rendering them incapable of providing their checks and balances. Their migrant troops need to be spread throughout the lands awaiting their signal at which time the UN will provide us all an event we will need saved from and coincidentally they will be able to enact a world wide Marshall law and clamping down on the information commons to protect our simple minds from being too stupid. Once we allow them to get to that point they are very difficult to destroy in fact most will collapse themselves but they will take as much of normal society out with them. The leftist progressive socialist mentality is shared in all these nations you see devolving into riots and chaos as their party has been hijacked by their globalist elite puppet masters. No way to vote your way out from these maniacs.
@@susanmellups3207 If I tried to explain, my comment would most likely disappear. Think about _that,_ and you may begin to get some idea.
What a fantastic long form / I love Michael he is truly an American asset and a gem of a human being. So intelligent yet so reasonable. This is the first time Ive seen your show I will certainly subscribe . I have been a Political Activist for so long and have very similar views as Michael does but I surely am the sweetest human being until it comes to Politics. I lost all of my teeth that had been 89% rebuilt by hand by a caring and kind dentist that I was sent to after my own dentist at an overdue by a year appointment freaked out and asked what happened to my teeth> 2015 was attacked by a homeless crack addict and my whole face was broken, had sinus cavity shattered and post concussive memory loss. I only remember seeing him lift his arm up in a fist and thinking" omg run" and feeling frozen. Then being in the arms of a police officer. Then nothing and waking up in the ER, I followed up w a plastic surgeon who never said a word about damage to the root line on my teeth. i had a new dentist who saved my teeth when the cavities began I was losing whole pieces of teeth , I needed rop and bottom root canals and was referred out and was called back. ( it was bad enough bc in 2010 a spine surgeon destroyed my entire spine by doing what would make him the most dough instead of what was needed if needed at all, i was a nurse and started in radiology so I understood he was fear mongering, ffwd. just waiting for a date for top root canals and having a horrible time with partial plates but no one could tell bc it looked like i had a,,all my teeth. then came covid . b-ing on SSDI knowing my divers educational/work/life exp was all over and its just bc Tragedy & Triumph were the them of my life since birth but i worked hard and did more than most so lok downs w.o root canals or partials or even care directions bc it happened so quick. I lost all but the four teeth with caps and crowns it took too many * I CALL THEM TOOTH INSURANCE MILLS BC NOW MOST WHO TAKE WELFARE INS. WHICH IS WHAR U GET WIRH OBAMACARE STIL IN PLACE WITH BIDENOMICS AND LIVE IN 2ND MOST WOKE OVERVACCINATED STATEOF MA. MY degree in effective communications after teeth done=was going to be my ticket out , i have a great PCP its the rest and splitting human beings into one size fits all care. I HATE MEDICAL BUROCRACY. Political ignorance is way 2 high . People in Red states who think anything will changed when kamala is just as bad as joe only Radical left . is scary to people like me who are feeling it for four years esp. the last tow. anyhow. I LOVED THE INTERVIEW. I LOVE THAT MICHAEL DOESN'T MINSE WORDS BUT IS VERY GOOD AT BRINGING CALM TO CHAOS.MY DAD BEGAN TEACHING ME POITICS AT AGE FOUR AND IM GLAD NOW. WELLOTHER THAN SEEING COMMUNISM IN MY OWN COUNTRY AND PEOPLE STILL GOING TO WRONG SOURSES FOR INFO. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE OUT INTERVIEING AND TEACHING AND i LOVE THE STAGE NOT BECAUSE i LIKE ATTENTION, I DONLT I LIKE KNOWING I HAVE 2,40 MINS TO GET THE AUDIENCE ENGANGED OR WILL LOSE THEM. I LIKE HELPING PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO EMPOWER AND LISTENING TO OTHERS BC I DON;T KNOW ALL AND IF i RUN FOR PRESIDENT I WOULD ABSOLUTELY WANT MICHAL TO HAVE A VERY BLACE IN MY CABINET MAYBE. BUT I THINK I WOULD HAVE A NEW POSITION PEO AS WH DIRCTOR OF PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS AS A PERSON ABOVE A PRESS SECRETARY WHO WOULD DO WEEKLY UPDATES AND A WEEKLY Q & A THAT COULD BE DONE WITH ANYONE RIGHT ON AN INTERACTIVE WEBSITE. YEAH. TY AGAIN!
Censorship Industrial Complex is a good description!
When a social media adds their own comment or changes a comment they become a publisher
I Love Shellenberger but EVEN after shabby treatment by the democrats he still can't be as hard on them as they deserve. Being a gracious man is at odds with absolute honesty.
Or, a hopeful work in progress...in other words, "Faith", perhaps.
I remain suspicious of Shellenberger having come out of the George Soros umbrella. Slowly I'm coming around. Converts make good spokesmen for their new homebase.
"The decline of courage..." Right here... Boston. John Adams is screaming from his grave. The validity of the Bill if Rights is ignored daily here.
"It has been frequently remarked that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force." -Alexander Hamilton, Federalist, 1.
Probably the best discussion with MS I have seen to date.. and I’ve seen many (from the UK). Just adore him
The most dangerous time in history is right now, and the main drivers for all this fragility has come from this tiny but incredibly wealthy group of people. The grand irony is that they are now right on the brink of losing everything they hold most important, their wealth and power over the human race. Are they smart enough to change their game, or has it become an ingrained pattern they can't escape, and we will all feel the pain of the civilization collapse they are driving?
Please learn more history. This is far from the most dangerous time. Cuban missile crisis? Black plague? The assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand? Very scary times. History is the record of existential threats, usually kicked off by a few people. This is it until the next one. But you're right that it's infuriating. It calls for the ol' "throw the bums out" action.
Please learn more history. This is far from the most dangerous time. Cuban missile crisis? Black plague? The assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand? Very scary times. History is the record of existential threats, usually kicked off by a few people. This is it until the next one. But you're right that it's infuriating. It calls for the ol' "throw the bums out" action.
Hi there, friends. I'm excited to share this conversation with Michael Shellenberger! We've also got even MORE with Michael getting ready to post for our subscribers over at DadSavesAmerica.com So be sure to head over there and subscribe. It's FREE to subscriber (though paid support is very much appreciated), and it will help make sure you never miss our latest content, regardless of how the TH-cam algorithmic winds blow.
Outline:
[0:00] Elites have lost our trust
[6:43] How populism took over the Right
[11:23] California is out of control
[24:01] Everyone knew Biden was losing it
[30:43] No, the internet isn’t making us gullible
[44:33] Free speech on social media
[56:24] The risk of audience capture
[1:03:14] We need courageous public voices
[1:07:39] Raising kids, therapy, and the hero’s journey
[1:15:31] Victor Frankl and “Man’s Search for Meaning”
[1:22:11] Coddling disconnects kids from physical reality
[1:33:29] Can a free society survive without faith?
[1:43:12] Does northern Europe have it figured out?
[1:50:14] Journalism, activism, and service
1:30:50 Thank you for saying this out loud! Chivalry IS a virtue. As a woman, I think feminism has made a massive error in teaching women to devalue and discourage it. We are only beginning to see the tragic consequences. I’m grateful to every man who embraces his inner protector to stand up for women and children, and who teaches his sons by example.
I think you should interview Sheriff Matt Dillon, Pop. Or John Wayne. Let’s write the script.
Thank you
To a society that is sufficiently abstract, reality is nearly incomprehensible.
Forcing college and higher learning on ourselves has had the exact opposite effect
Education is not what it was. University graduates would now struggle with the last year of primary school.Look at some old text books.
No one is taught to think now. They are not educated they are trained for a narrow specialist role at best, and brainwashed.
Michael has become one of my most favorite humans and respected voices of our time.❤
Low bar.
Gentlemen-Your grasp on the reality of the reality of this world is astoundingly refreshing.
Rarely do I watch a conversation and am not able to disagree with at least one aspect of what I am hearing.
Thank you for shedding light on various subjects and filling in on the ones I wasn't aware.
I am elated that we share the same beliefs on God and I look forward to hearing more from both of you.
All of God's blessings be upon you, your families, and all who you love.
God bless and protect America and The West from all who wish our destruction and are actively pursuing it-externally and from within!
We need a spiritual awakening in society. Focusing on politics or science does not get us out of the trappings of this misguided world.
Best interview I’ve seen of yours, Dad.
Thanks my friend! I hope to keep improving.
Next up: David Lee Roth!
They have destroyed Austin. I have live in Texas for most of my life.
My wife is reading about all the proposed nonsense tax increases the “advocates” and “activists” (and the communists) are pushing for in Community Impact. As if they aren’t getting increased revenue from our population growth. These people are like spoiled trust fund brats, playing with other people’s money. Ugh.
@DadSavesAmerica Basically, the government has become the Mafia! We are all slaves to them! They want everything taken away from us! Our religious freedom in particular!
Try Seattle over 65 years 😭
It's what the sheeple want 🤷♀️
@@DadSavesAmericain general, most Democrats genuinely believe that the only way someone can excel is if someone else fails so they justify to themselves that these Authoritarian like policies are just because they balance the scales that Capitalism supposedly unbalances.
This was such a delightful, fast paced, and clean conversation.
Farmers are practically the only people left who are not too stupid to live.
F Parkinson’s, it’s late-stage, angry dementia.
Parkinson’s is a movement disorder, angry dementia is a whole different thing.
Well, he has earned that anger in spades. He has connived his entire life, for power, status, and wealth. He's had all of them, but can't enjoy any of it... No retirement for you hidin'.
I agree, there may be some parkinsons, but just raglar ole dementia is more likely. However, I don't actually believe Joe Biden has either one. He's acting. Joe Biden has given two speeches he personally cares about, was after the Russia invasion he did the SOTU and at the post sassy nation speech. Biden didn't stutter. lolz. My theory is that biden understands the political machines and is a monster of the swamp, so when he doesn't care, he just shuffles around and mumbles. When he doesn't want any more sassy nations and he doesn't want Russia to win in Ukraine, he knows he has to look into the camera, and say "Russia will not win in Ukraine" and "We don't condone political violence". Biden is a tricky old POS mfer. He has literally farted on a princess in the British royal family because his family is Irish Catholic, and they hate the Brits. Biden wasn't invited to the Coronation of the King of England because they knew he wouldn't go. And his main bill was the Inflation Reduction Act, it was a bunch of greenie crap, but its initials were IRA. You arent using your brain if you think Joe Biden has dementia OR parky. He has a case of Im too old for this shtt.
When Joe Biden delivered the SOTU, and he had his mic on still, and he walked down from the podium, and Joe Biden had a hot mic moment when he said "Netanyahoo needs a come to jesus moment" He didn't stutter my man. He is not dementia OR parky. He uses dementia and Parky when he just doesn't give a fck.
@@MG-me7iw My point was simply that Biden’s possible Parkinson’s is immaterial to his governance, whereas his obvious cognitive (and character) issues are.
But I guess I made you feel inferior, hence your “sarcasm”. Sorry, friend!
Yup. Anyone who had a parent with it knows it on sight, unmistakable. Same for if you were a professional working with them.
This question always reminds me of this quote.
“Shower him with all earthly blessings, drown him in happiness completely, over his head, so that only bubbles pop up on the surface of happiness, as on water; give him such economic satisfaction that he no longer has anything left to do at all except sleep, eat gingerbread, and worry about the noncessation of world history - and it is here, just here, that he, this man, out of sheer ingratitude, out of sheer lampoonery, will do something nasty.
He will even risk his gingerbread, and wish on purpose for the most pernicious nonsense, the most non-economical meaninglessness, solely in order to mix into all this positive good sense his own pernicious fantastical element.”
Dostoevsky
Putin much?
Brilliant discussion
Excellent Analysis
Thank you Sir
I agree!!
Thanks for having him on, great guest
I love your work, and I always love listening to you Mike
Thank you gentlemen
Thank you both
Every episode with Francisco Gil-white is a hit! Please continue bringing him on. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for your support of Jewish people. ❤
Keep up the great work... You were born for a time such as this.
Wow, thanks
@@DadSavesAmerica -comes from the Bible - Esther 4:14
Michael Shellenberger is a great guy. A smart man, a good man. Thank you for this conversation.
Hey, I'm a college graduate and I'm working hard at a car factory. Don't throw us all into the same bag.
Good to know you are finally useful
@@ransakreject5221 Wow. This is so arrogant it's disgusting.
@@Oatriumph what? Students aren’t useful. They don’t produce shit
Lol....that's the problem....people with crappy degrees aren't elite but think they are.
I’m have my own business and didn’t even go to HS.
I love nothing more than interviewing 22 year olds that filled out the application under “relevant history” where they talk about their GPA or some useless degree in nonsense like communications.
I always say something like “you’re an adult. I don’t care what you did in school. What have you ever done that was useful to anyone. Give me a reason to hire you.”
Invariably they tell me about some class or class project cause they simply can’t wrap their minds around all the years and money they wasted.
I often end with “how will that help you fix it if one of my machines breaks? I’m sorry but no one cares about how many years you pissed away. Have a good day.”
Happens once every month or so.
Admittedly, my joy is alittle shameful.
But I really am trying to help them by being harsh.
Trying to undo the lies that have been smashed into their brains.
it's about time we really did something about how our society is structured to benefit the privileged few but sitting here writing youtube comments does nothing
Disagree. It does approximate a community meeting.
Very good conversation involving complicated subjects. I did not know who Michael was before this video, but I’m very glad I chose to watch this. California would be wise to listen to this man. Interesting description regarding current generation disconnect between reality and speech. Kudo’s to both of you regarding dialogue that’s missing in today’s America. Thank you.
My only disagreement with this discussion is the use of the term ELITE. The definition of elite:
A group or class of persons considered to be superior to others because of their intelligence, social standing, or wealth.
A member of such a group.
The best or most skilled members of a group.
Elites in history have been leaders in society working to save or further society. The current collection of upperclassmen don't behave as elites but more akin to PARASITES.
PARASITES:
(Biology) An organism that lives and feeds on or in an organism of a different species and causes harm to its host.
One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
THIS IS A MUCH BETTER DESCRIPTION OF THIS RULING CLASS.
Hawaii is like that too. Wages, say for teachers, are the lowest in the country. And the Governor answers: but you get to live here!
Dad, just found you. Great interview. You are having conversations that all us regular dads are having. I’m subscribed!
Michael, living in California, I sure hope your on the ballot here, we could use some common sense, intelligence, and integrity, once again in San Francisco. Come back and help us fight for California.
My dad loved his cows so much, and I loved my calf so so much! This bug eating craziness makes me livid 😡
The methane data says that cows are not the problem.
See the data.
First time listener. Wonderful conversation. I loved how you were able to cover so many topics and yet go deeply.
And as a Catholic revert myself, congratulations on opening your heart to your faith. Once you start reading the church, fathers, Saint Aquinas and delving in, I’m sure you’ll find that it is an almost limitless amount of wisdom and beauty to be discovered. Not to mention the mystery , and wonder of the Mass and Eucharistic adoration.
Thank you so much, and for the great encouragement. I’ve gotta say that my wife and I are feeling the presence of Christ in our lives and marriage like never before and it is an AWESOME adventure. My son just finished his first week in Rome as a new student, just 18 minutes walking from the Vatican. You’re going to see this play weave into our content more and more in the months ahead. Glad to have you here.
Excellent content, per usual. I listened to the whole chat. Thank you for your dedication to seeking truth. One request. Please have Whitney Webb on.
It all starts with truth. Who, what, when, how, why.
Woman wake up everyday to compete with the truth who physically can't move. Because of the competition.
Competition IS jealousy.
The truth is sick, forever.
And finding your way through a minefield of big lies. It takes work to parse through it, but it can be done. Then, discuss the real humanity problems..
Because they did not love the truth...
I love Michael Shellenberger! He's brave, and he says what needs to be said, and he never gives up. Sadly, he blocked me on Twitter years ago, so i can't help him there.
This has become one of my favorite channels. The interview style brings out the best of the guests.
No state that believes one ethnicity has the right to subjugate another has the right to exist.
Israel 🇮🇱
How about an ideology which has for hundreds of years imposed their dictates onto millions worldwide. Subjugation and oppression is something we frown upon but this ideology gets a free pass?
@@allenschmitz9644Israel has freedom of religion and there are Muslims who serve in government so, I don't understand why made your comment.
Look at any number of progressive elected representatives LinkedIn pages. It's ALWAYS the same trajectory. University > Grad School > Aide or Campaign Worker> Elected Position. Never anything regarding running or even working for an actual business.
It seems the opposite of what elected officials were supposed to be, retired gentlemen farmers, people who were very successful and had wisdom from life, etc. Instead we get these pipe lined morons.
"community activist"
When someone never works and lives in the reality in which most people exist, it’s impossible for them to comprehend and be understanding of those who do.
Never mind Linkedin, the Early Life section is the real eye-opener...
Excellent, thanks
Maybe also interview:
Roya Hakakian : The Professor, His Nemesis, and a Scandal at Oberlin College
and or
Lawdan Bazargan is an activist and former political prisoner from Iran. These guys were able to take over all the Middle East Centers of universities around the world. Second of all, they had a lot of money. Most of these centers, including the one in Princeton, are backed with dubious money.
The goal of the cultural centers was, first of all, surveillance of Iranians abroad. It was secondly to enter the universities and make alliances. There are also these leftist professors in the US that are all upset by colonialism, racism, and all the rest of it. And so they joined the Islamists, not considering the dangers that they pose to our liberal values, to our democratic values.😮
A little critique : him stating he was not of the same "opinion" regarding procedures done to children said to be protective - without giving his reasons - and without acknowledging rfk did not give opinions, but facts, backed by science
With all the insights and research Schellenberger has done, it is beyond my comprehension how he still can question RFK’s stance on vscxcs - there is so much info, research, studies, clinical evidence, historical facts and reality, political-pharma- collusion and corruption and fraud evidence and documented history… what else and more does an intelligent adult.. especially one who already has for himself proven beyond doubt the truth of state-pharma-medical fraud up and down and all over the place, need to stop trusting ‘the science’-narrative-of-the-state about the topic of vsxcs ??!
He says “X isn’t a TOTALLY free speech platform, but that’s impossible”. What’s impossible? Why not just follow the speech laws we already have when it comes to social media? How has anyone come to the conclusion that it’s not possible to have totally free speech on the internet? And I don’t mean child P. That’s already illegal. I’m talking about just following the laws we’ve had for centuries. Seems like basic stuff
This starts off great - Shellenberg is about to offer his take on why the elite want to destory their own society - but then the host cuts him off, asks if it has to do with Amtrak and ... never gets back to the key question!.
I have vastly different politics and views than Michael, but I love that guy; he's one of the good ones.
Oligarchs. Marxism. Technology. Not a vibe
What are you trying to say? You want to see elites in action...watch Musk bully everybody he meets. He needs a come-uppamce. We have no democracy and no sympathy for the people who are hurt by their silly games and competitions. Johnathan Swift cover the subject very well in Gulliver's Travels. Modern elites make Swift's ridiculous characters lnto role models. Elites today are far too removed from society to be able to think for it.
I had heard of Shellenberger but didn’t know much about his work or core values. This interview was very informative and I am glad I took the time to listen it.
Great interview! I've been following Michael Shellenberger for a few years now, your line of questioning took him to areas I've never heard him explore before. Well done.
Thanks for this feedback. Doing something different with Michael given how much is out there was my #1 effort and, honestly, worry heading into this interview. I’m really glad to hear I put a few points on the unique scoreboard.
@@DadSavesAmerica -- Wow, a personal reply from "Dad"!!! You just made my day!
Ok so let’s start by not assigning the moniker of “elites” as this is not the defining characteristic.
It's a useful shorthand, if used with the modifier: 'so-called and self-proclaimed'. And they're an international, supra-national, 'overclass', not just an American clique.
Scum
As a child I grasped optimism and internalized “success is never final, failure is never fatal, it’s courage that counts.” After multiple career changes and geographical locations, I’m now retired and embrace the idea “when you’ve lived more years than you have left, you don’t sweat the small stuff - and it’s all small stuff.”
What a great conversation! Thanks.
1:57:16 is totally vote for you this time. The problem with your campaign is that I had no idea who you were.
One of the arguments I hate most is that conspiracies don’t happen “because it would be too hard to keep it quiet.” No, it wouldn’t. Most conspiracies only require a tiny handful of people.
Love ❤️ listening to Michael!!!
He's a Patriot in my Book
We lost spiritual awareness. Awareness of ourself, who we are, what we need and how gain that.
We are bombed with (dis)iformation, abused and abusing each other to the level of madness, living in slavery and call it democracy.
Thank you for this conversation
This is one of the best interviews I have seen
Freedom, however, is not the last word. Freedom is only part of the story and half of the truth. Freedom is but the negative aspect of the whole phenomenon whose positive aspect is responsibleness. In fact, freedom is in danger of degenerating into mere arbitrariness unless it is lived in terms of responsibleness. That is why I recommend that the Statue of Liberty on the East Coast be supplemented by a Statue of Responsibility on the West Coast - Frankl
Freedom is everything. If we have no freedom, we can’t work our differences. You sound like someone from China.
It's the mind virus called Marxism.
I know because a cell tried to recrute me in 1970. .. I ignored them and went back to commplete my engineering degree.
Later, when I had spare time, I studied up.
Marxism uses all the same brainwashing elements used by cults. [It's obvious]
Step 1 in Marxism is to DESTROY the current system; also called REVOLUTION. ..
That's why Walz enjoys the smell of burning tires.
Why don't people get it ??
Why are you people so sTupid0 ??
Get a clue.