I know this camera is a year old, but the baby ratel 2 is still my go-to camera for my drones. The starlight capability of this camera is quite literally unbelievable. under nothing but the light of a full moon and a street light off in the distance, this thing can see the colors of my trees and lawn. The ultra light weight of them helps my Diatone GTR 3" clock in at over 100 miles per hour as well. I have a couple of these mounted to some 1/32 scale rock bouncers (the Orlandoo Hunter OH32X01 and the Doorok Rock Racer from Tiny4x4. The camera's compact size helps them fit anywhere and the starlight sensors mean that I won't get lost in dark places. My students and I drive them all over the school, through classrooms and offices, and we have the video feed up on the big screen in the classroom. They are a huge hit with everyone, an unusually welcome distraction, met with big smiles and waves, and of course everyone wants to stand there and have you to drive between their feet.
Great video as always 👍 I would definitely say the colours are better on the new cam the blue sky and the bricks on your house just popped a bit more for me
During the first test, looking into the garage, I definitely notice the original is a little green or washed out compared to the V2. The V2 seemed a little darker when the garage was in the peripheral, but still not too bad. They also seem to have fixed the mild oversaturation or red tinge. I didn't see it as noticeably on the Ratel baby 2.
Baby ratel is my favorite micro cam 🤩.. hyped to compare. Ive actually flown the baby ratel on my 5 inch before until a replacement ratel came in, worked great xD.
Hey Nick, I just came to the realization, you know who you are ?? You, Nick Burns, are salt of the earth, true as my grandmother !! I realized you are just like my uncle Brian ( RIP ), who was also salt of the earth. What does that mean ? Well , to me ( as my grandma explained it, and it made sense ) it means a person who adds to a group ( or community ) the same as salt adds to many dishes. It's not the flavor, it's the enhancement, it's not the seasoning, but what brings the seasoning out. You round out the hype and exclamations, enhance the positive , and never overshadow the main dish. And I don't even cook, LOL !! Thanks again for your wonderful reviews, ETC !!!
I really love all your content Nick. Personally, I really love both my Caddx Ratel and Caddx Baby Ratel OG. I will probably be sticking with what I know and I appreciate the heads up on what to expect from future models. Thanks buddy.
I think it's really good . I used to avoid cadx stuff back when they first started. But over time especially with the full size ratel, they started gaining my confidence back. I would totally use this.
WOW, It's really tiny! Looks better than the original, because the night vision was a little bit better in my opinion...looking forward to further demonstration. Thanks for the share! 😎👍
Nick, I just remembered about a thunderstorm I saw when I was a kid... I was in my parent's farm, it should've been around 1990... And when it started me, my mother and a woman who worked there got stuck in a small kitchen separated from the rest of the house... It's where there's a wood burning stove... And it was absolutely crazy! A small tornado started there, it wasn't even F1 I believe, but it was ripping apart a tree near the house and bringing huge pieces of it into a wall outside the kitchen's door... And lightning! One after the other, striking the backyard, around 50m from where we were. I felt a shock coming from my foot up to my knees that day! 😬 So, yeah... Those things can be really dangerous!!! Your daughter isn't wrong to fear it.
No she isn't wrong. But I am sure not telling her about the seriousness of mother nature. I couldn't number the number of tornadoes I have seen or been near. Its very common here. As a kid I was out on my bike and saw three different tornadoes in three different directions. They all looked like they were on the ground, but it was farmland and I could see they were a long distance away. I did decide to go home. The sirens wouldn't go off until they were close, now they seem to go off so much sooner.
Hi Nick YEP I can't tell a difference. In the day time but night has to go to the 2, I have a baby in my Skyhopper and I like it but I don't know if I would be getting it until my first one dies. Thanks again for the video and information.
I can tell that the color is slightly more washed out in the original. But color looks more natural. The 2 the color is more vibrant but not by much. But then inside it's opposite.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you for replying so quickly! I'll have a look. Also, am I wrong in thinking this is the best whoop sized camera out there right now? I'm kinda confused why everyone isn't just getting these instead of all the other options I've seen so far. Even the often recommended "ant" doesn't hold a candle to this. Am I missing something?
@@thesoundyouneed1 I think what you might be missing is weight. With whoops the lower the weight the better the performance and longer the flight time. If we add 2grams over say a 1.3gram camera that can be a 10% increase in weight, ~10% less performance and flight time.
hopefully the new one will respond better to the changing light conditions, I had the first baby ratel in a whoop and could barely go thru changing light conditions
This is my favorite camera. So much so I actually bother replacing nano 2s that come in basically everything. A great camera. I since bought into dji digital and have been converting quads when units are available. Bought a few caddax polar setups and a nebula v2.
I would want to know what do you think about the comparison between Baby Ratel2 and normal Ratel2. The specs are similar. Ist the Ratel2 better like the small baby? Perhaps the baby is better because more view with the 1.8 lens.?! THX
For analog this is hard to beat, especially paired with an onboard dvr. I'm still surprised sometimes how good the video quality is for analog 720p recording using this camera in 16:9.
@@PeterMMMMM I've used all 3. The ratel cameras have a slight edge to my eyes. The ant is still a good camera, but you sacrifice a little picture quality for a lighter camera. If you're going to use it for a tiny whoop up to 85mm/2" build the weight savings is probably worth it. For 2 1/2" and up the quad should be able to carry the extra weight without any issues if you'd prefer higher quality video. One area that there is actually a big difference is that the ratel cameras perform much better in low light conditions. In full daylight, it's harder to tell the difference.
Thanks for another great Nick Burns video. The differences in daylight and indoor lighting are minimal. The Baby Ratel 2 _may_ be a fraction sharper than the original and the color temperature is just a bit cooler. I like to fly well into the evening and where it really counts for me (low light performance) the Baby 2 is slightly, but noticeably better. It is interesting that it does so with a smaller lens. To me this suggests that there is a different sensor. I wonder what the Baby 2 with the original lens would be like???
I thought about looking at swapping lenses, but I worry I am going to hose both lenses, as the v2 lens is smaller, could be the same thread size, something I thought about.
nice camera! how does this one differ sizewise from the foxeer arrow micro pro model? if its just about the same size i might go with the baby ratel2 for my leader120...lost OG aio/cam in a crash due to a bad lipo... it decided to give up over concrete...lost 2 motos as well but no frame damage other than some scuffage...however the motos were replaced and now to get a nice cam in the kwad as well...
That is an impressive camera. Outdoors: Baby Ratel 2 has a little more detail, but I like the colors of the original better. Baby Ratel 2 looks like it has a little more dynamic range with the sky and sun. Indoors: Baby Ratel 1 looks more hazy Night: Baby Ratel 2 definitely looks better. The colors and noise are improved a bit. That is going to be my go-to camera for everything except the lightest quads that will have the Caddx Ant. Thank you for a great review!
If you could choose any analog camera what would fly Nick? (I mostly fly 5in so size weight doesn't matter just looking for the best possible picture to see branches)
Nick, if it is the same sensor, the baby ratel 2 have superior processing, you don't see that bluish cast that the original baby ratel has, plus on low light can you see more sensitivity and less noise, so you have a winner there. Baby Ratel 2 all the way !!
The original baby ratel looks a little hazy to me compared to the new one.Maybe a little less aliasing on the new one. Hard to tell with youtube compression.
The only real difference I can see is the color temperature. The Baby Ratel 2 looks a bit colder. This seems to make the sky look slightly unnatural, not a problem for me but might bother some. And in the night footage the Ratel 2 indeed does quite a bit better.
The ratel 2's color balance seems to wander a bit, you can see it on the blue bucket and sign outside the garage are more purple from a distance. Also in the flight footage the sky changes between blue and purple back and forth.
The ratel has forever and always been my favorite fpv camera
Same as that. Especially at night feels like it’s a lot brighter out and when you take the goggles off it’s near on pitch black
I know this camera is a year old, but the baby ratel 2 is still my go-to camera for my drones. The starlight capability of this camera is quite literally unbelievable. under nothing but the light of a full moon and a street light off in the distance, this thing can see the colors of my trees and lawn. The ultra light weight of them helps my Diatone GTR 3" clock in at over 100 miles per hour as well. I have a couple of these mounted to some 1/32 scale rock bouncers (the Orlandoo Hunter OH32X01 and the Doorok Rock Racer from Tiny4x4. The camera's compact size helps them fit anywhere and the starlight sensors mean that I won't get lost in dark places. My students and I drive them all over the school, through classrooms and offices, and we have the video feed up on the big screen in the classroom. They are a huge hit with everyone, an unusually welcome distraction, met with big smiles and waves, and of course everyone wants to stand there and have you to drive between their feet.
It is a very good camera. One I also keep "in stock" for my builds.
Great video as always 👍 I would definitely say the colours are better on the new cam the blue sky and the bricks on your house just popped a bit more for me
I thought the exact same thing.
The new version I think looks a little better. Definitely better for night flying. Good video.
During the first test, looking into the garage, I definitely notice the original is a little green or washed out compared to the V2. The V2 seemed a little darker when the garage was in the peripheral, but still not too bad. They also seem to have fixed the mild oversaturation or red tinge. I didn't see it as noticeably on the Ratel baby 2.
Baby ratel is my favorite micro cam 🤩.. hyped to compare. Ive actually flown the baby ratel on my 5 inch before until a replacement ratel came in, worked great xD.
Hey Nick, I just came to the realization, you know who you are ?? You, Nick Burns, are salt of the earth, true as my grandmother !! I realized you are just like my uncle Brian ( RIP ), who was also salt of the earth.
What does that mean ? Well , to me ( as my grandma explained it, and it made sense ) it means a person who adds to a group ( or community ) the same as salt adds to
many dishes. It's not the flavor, it's the enhancement, it's not the seasoning, but what brings the seasoning out.
You round out the hype and exclamations, enhance the positive , and never overshadow the main dish. And I don't even cook, LOL !! Thanks again for your wonderful reviews, ETC !!!
Thank you so much. I appreciate the kind words. I think your grandma has it right, I hope I can continue to live up to that description.
Minute > 7:10 : the truth moment! Good job,Nick!
Thank you. Should be good for night flying on hot nights. Surprising with a smaller lens
I really love all your content Nick.
Personally, I really love both my Caddx Ratel and Caddx Baby Ratel OG. I will probably be sticking with what I know and I appreciate the heads up on what to expect from future models.
Thanks buddy.
Thank you. I appreciate you coming to watch.
I think it's really good .
I used to avoid cadx stuff back when they first started. But over time especially with the full size ratel, they started gaining my confidence back.
I would totally use this.
yes, it used to be a roll of the dice if your camera had dust behind the lens. That was so common.
WOW, It's really tiny! Looks better than the original, because the night vision was a little bit better in my opinion...looking forward to further demonstration. Thanks for the share! 😎👍
The B,R,2 looks like it shows the image a little bit further back.👍
Like a wider fov, or we can see more further away?
appreciate all the footage, great stuff!
Also only ~$25-26 on the caddx website. Had to go there, as none of the retailers I used at the time had any in stock
Nick, I just remembered about a thunderstorm I saw when I was a kid...
I was in my parent's farm, it should've been around 1990... And when it started me, my mother and a woman who worked there got stuck in a small kitchen separated from the rest of the house... It's where there's a wood burning stove... And it was absolutely crazy!
A small tornado started there, it wasn't even F1 I believe, but it was ripping apart a tree near the house and bringing huge pieces of it into a wall outside the kitchen's door... And lightning! One after the other, striking the backyard, around 50m from where we were. I felt a shock coming from my foot up to my knees that day! 😬
So, yeah... Those things can be really dangerous!!! Your daughter isn't wrong to fear it.
No she isn't wrong. But I am sure not telling her about the seriousness of mother nature. I couldn't number the number of tornadoes I have seen or been near. Its very common here. As a kid I was out on my bike and saw three different tornadoes in three different directions. They all looked like they were on the ground, but it was farmland and I could see they were a long distance away. I did decide to go home. The sirens wouldn't go off until they were close, now they seem to go off so much sooner.
Wow, what a nice cam! Some fpv cam I need
Looks like Baby Ratel 2 lens is better. Less sun glare. And less weight is great!
Hi Nick YEP I can't tell a difference. In the day time but night has to go to the 2, I have a baby in my Skyhopper and I like it but I don't know if I would be getting it until my first one dies. Thanks again for the video and information.
I can tell that the color is slightly more washed out in the original. But color looks more natural. The 2 the color is more vibrant but not by much. But then inside it's opposite.
What vtx would you advise to fit small whoops, that would go well with this camera? (Sorry if this is a stupid question)
for whoops as small and light as possible. The eachine nano vtx is pretty solid. Also some whoop boards come with a vtx in the all in one board.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you for replying so quickly! I'll have a look. Also, am I wrong in thinking this is the best whoop sized camera out there right now? I'm kinda confused why everyone isn't just getting these instead of all the other options I've seen so far. Even the often recommended "ant" doesn't hold a candle to this. Am I missing something?
@@thesoundyouneed1 I think what you might be missing is weight. With whoops the lower the weight the better the performance and longer the flight time. If we add 2grams over say a 1.3gram camera that can be a 10% increase in weight, ~10% less performance and flight time.
hopefully the new one will respond better to the changing light conditions, I had the first baby ratel in a whoop and could barely go thru changing light conditions
Awesome review and comparison, Nick! 😃
Pretty nice camera... Even better at night now!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
The Ratel 2 has better color saturation and the lens is more crisp. Also no lens flare.
low light has considerable improvements. even better than toothless 2 nano. i would probably just get this instead of cat 3 micro
This is my favorite camera. So much so I actually bother replacing nano 2s that come in basically everything. A great camera. I since bought into dji digital and have been converting quads when units are available. Bought a few caddax polar setups and a nebula v2.
Yes, I think I have used about 8 now :)
I would want to know what do you think about the comparison between Baby Ratel2 and normal Ratel2. The specs are similar. Ist the Ratel2 better like the small baby? Perhaps the baby is better because more view with the 1.8 lens.?!
THX
I am also wondering about this. Do you know the answer by now?
For analog this is hard to beat, especially paired with an onboard dvr. I'm still surprised sometimes how good the video quality is for analog 720p recording using this camera in 16:9.
Hi Nick, between the Caddx ant, ratel 2 and the baby ratel 2... Is there a big difference in image quality? All the online demos look the same to me.
@@PeterMMMMM I've used all 3. The ratel cameras have a slight edge to my eyes. The ant is still a good camera, but you sacrifice a little picture quality for a lighter camera. If you're going to use it for a tiny whoop up to 85mm/2" build the weight savings is probably worth it. For 2 1/2" and up the quad should be able to carry the extra weight without any issues if you'd prefer higher quality video. One area that there is actually a big difference is that the ratel cameras perform much better in low light conditions. In full daylight, it's harder to tell the difference.
@@PeterMMMMM baby ratel at sunrise th-cam.com/video/L3qz9nKG6Ng/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for another great Nick Burns video. The differences in daylight and indoor lighting are minimal. The Baby Ratel 2 _may_ be a fraction sharper than the original and the color temperature is just a bit cooler. I like to fly well into the evening and where it really counts for me (low light performance) the Baby 2 is slightly, but noticeably better. It is interesting that it does so with a smaller lens. To me this suggests that there is a different sensor. I wonder what the Baby 2 with the original lens would be like???
I thought about looking at swapping lenses, but I worry I am going to hose both lenses, as the v2 lens is smaller, could be the same thread size, something I thought about.
Excellent camera. Only difference I see is the old one has warmer colors. Especially in the greens.
oh, see there we go, I didn't notice that difference.
Night comparison the Baby Ratel 2 was noticeably better.
nice camera!
how does this one differ sizewise from the foxeer arrow micro pro model?
if its just about the same size i might go with the baby ratel2 for my leader120...lost OG aio/cam in a crash due to a bad lipo...
it decided to give up over concrete...lost 2 motos as well but no frame damage other than some scuffage...however the motos were replaced and now to get a nice cam in the kwad as well...
I believe this is smaller, but I don't have the arrow micro. typically nano cams are smaller than micro, and lower weight.
There seems to be less glare from the sun and night time is much better.
That is an impressive camera.
Outdoors:
Baby Ratel 2 has a little more detail, but I like the colors of the original better.
Baby Ratel 2 looks like it has a little more dynamic range with the sky and sun.
Indoors:
Baby Ratel 1 looks more hazy
Night:
Baby Ratel 2 definitely looks better. The colors and noise are improved a bit.
That is going to be my go-to camera for everything except the lightest quads that will have the Caddx Ant. Thank you for a great review!
I am surprised the price at the US stores.
If you could choose any analog camera what would fly Nick? (I mostly fly 5in so size weight doesn't matter just looking for the best possible picture to see branches)
I mainly stick the nano cameras, for a 5inch I might suggest looking at the ratel 2, or foxeer cat 2
Looked like the baby ratel 2 had slightly better latency
they do advertise lower latency, but the latency tests are less than perfect.
Nick, if it is the same sensor, the baby ratel 2 have superior processing, you don't see that bluish cast that the original baby ratel has, plus on low light can you see more sensitivity and less noise, so you have a winner there. Baby Ratel 2 all the way !!
Nice. Thank you for that diagnosis
The original baby ratel looks a little hazy to me compared to the new one.Maybe a little less aliasing on the new one.
Hard to tell with youtube compression.
I see this one got the vp9 codec, which is better, but still compressed.
More fish eye on the 2 and a little more blue in it but over all not a lot of difference in my opinion... great video m8 as per usual
The only real difference I can see is the color temperature. The Baby Ratel 2 looks a bit colder. This seems to make the sky look slightly unnatural, not a problem for me but might bother some.
And in the night footage the Ratel 2 indeed does quite a bit better.
The ratel 2's color balance seems to wander a bit, you can see it on the blue bucket and sign outside the garage are more purple from a distance. Also in the flight footage the sky changes between blue and purple back and forth.
@@Eff917 Good catch! I wonder if there are any available settings related to the color temp.
Outside the sky in the BR2 seemed a tad on the purple side. The other colors looked fine. Definitely not a deal killer for sure
Thank you for pointing that out.
probably the best nano sized camera. Best balance between lightweight and stellar quality.
I can't stand the Ant after having seen the Ratel xD
Cool camera!!!
HEY. DID U CHANGE THE CAMERA SETTINGS OR YOU LEFT IT AT THE STOCK SETTING FOR THE BABY RATEL 2 ?
stock settings.
Excellent camera my friend👌👊👍
Isn't 1200TVL comparable to 1080p? The video quality looks more like 640x480. I'm trying to figure out the best quality analog I can get on a RC plane
No analog camera regardless of tvl will compare to hd fpv like dji, walksnail or hdzero.
I bought this camera for my 75mm whoop. What canopy can I use that will fit this camera?
The crux3 and ae65 canopies will work. I think they are the same canopies, but different "colors".
How are you recording clean video without OSD info? It looks great!
Also, thunder can be pretty terrifying!
Maybe he turned it off for the video.
I have a dvr on the quad, wired between the camera and flight controller.
@@NickBurnsFPV Wow, that's so cool. Have you made a video about how to do that? I'm very curious.
@@SunriseWaterMedia RunCam Mini FPV DVR, cut the camera signal wire that goes from camera to FC and connect it.
@@matthew04101 Thanks 👍
Great video!
Hey again! :D
@@wingsounds13 did we just become best friends..?
@@JP-qq2kn I wouldn't say 'best' friends just yet, but we would appear to be related - same name and at least one hobby interest in common.
@@wingsounds13 do you wanna go do karate in the garage??
@@JP-qq2kn Ummm... no thanks. I never got into karate. I did do judo MANY years ago.
yes, you finally have unmmannedtechshop links woohhooo
I was going to say... I can't tell a difference.. and then you said it haha!
It looks better than the biteforst
paused at th-cam.com/video/CW1V8mxkPzM/w-d-xo.html slightly less glare on the Baby Ratel2 than the original
the nr2 is a bit more clear,the original nr1 has a bit blur and its not off a big deal,,i would chose the new one if i had to buy either..
I think the ratel 2 handles darkness better
Looks good
The ratel 2 is slightly more blue. Only difference I see. And my eyes prefer the original.
Closest to dji available
+1👍 💪
The original better color