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I know the owner very well. Dave Selvaggio….hence the DS. I’ve known him from the time before DSarms when he ran a small add in Shotgun News. I’d buy FN FAL’s from him on a regular basis. He became known as the FN guy in the 80/90’s. Anyway he swears the cast receiver is as good if not better than the forged. It all depends on the metallurgy and how it’s hardened. I’ve had chances to get either from him and stuck with casting. Just giving you his opinion! Thank you for sharing this video.
Well of course he'd tell you that, the castings have better margins!
Yep, he and I know some of the same people. The FAL world wasn't too huge back in the day. I was lucky enough to enter in while things were still pretty good. 5-10 years later and I would have missed so many good deals and good people.
@@agentoranj5858 Do they? I 'm honestly not sure. I do know the forged receiver tends to add about $200 to a rifle's pricetag.
@@agentoranj5858 I’ve been in the game a long time. All of my made in Belgium FN FAL’s were type 3 castings. If they thought casting was good enough then it is. This is my only reply to you!
I got a jungle warrior para when they were first released and absolutely love it. The short barrel and aluminum lower + para stock make it *so* much more handy than my stg58. It’s the 50.63 that FN should have made. It’s possibly my favorite rifle.
What the experience like shooting a para? Is their a recoil difference?
MISHA!!! Miss ya man.
Been doing a construction project since November and its ramped up to high & final gear. I promise myself I will take time for me this July-August. Its been a long road getting from there to here.
@@misha5670 You deserve it man
God bless
About the Cold Warrior. Most FALs don’t have chrome lined barrels, they can come with or without the carrying handle, I have one with it, and installing a bipod is quick and simple, they can be obtained much cheaper than DSA’s price.
What I would change in that model are the rear sight and the charging handle for more classic versions.
Great video, Misha. Thanks!
very informative as always
Thanks much for watching
The best of the battle rifles. Yep, I said it. The grip angle is too aggressive & needs to be changed out.
GREAT VIDEO 🇧🇪
Honestly, i love the FAL's grip angle but I'm known for being a weirdo so *shrug*
I just ordered this on Atlantic and just got to my ffl. I hope he likes it 😅
Yes, range time, when you can. I'd like to hear and see, the firing impressions of the cold warrior.
Can you put a carry handle on the cold warrior? I know you said the rear sight can be swapped but I didn’t hear if you could add a carry handle.
Dsa has models with 2 different lengths of gas systems. Does the longer one shoot softer? Are there any advantages/ disadvantages to one over the other?
You can't buy the metric mettle mags anywhere. I have looked for 6 months, and even DSL has been out too. They are like $50 each. I got 4 used ones at a big gun show.
So you can buy them, just not for old-timy money.
I wish they would make the 556 versions
I wish i could get my old SAR4800 in 556 back from my friend.
I would Really like to have one of Any of these! Could we work a transfer to my local shop ?
shoot me an e-mail anytime. I have 3-4 models in stock ATM.
Does DSA even sell metal FAL mags anymore?
No
Yes, i had 6 come in with this order.
@@misha5670 no kidding? I thought they were no longer manufacturing them!
Did they function 100%?
@@Deepwatr1 Let you know after the next range trip. We had planned to go last Friday but had to cancel it. New plan is to go this coming Tuesday or Wednesday depending on the weather.
@@misha5670 Thank you!
I like my FALs imported and made under FN contract.
I don't think DSA ever got an FN contract because as far as I can tell, most of their guns are parts kit builds.
Since there are no more new imports coming in to the USA, I have used DSA upper receivers to finish a couple of my parts kit builds but I bought them when they were all machined from billet, not cast.
I'm sure the DSA billet receivers are ok but I would rather have Belgian. I think a billet DSA receiver might be a little better than an Imbel type 3 which I think is the induction hardened casting but signed off by FN.
I would not want to buy a cast receiver that wasn't made under FN contract. Maybe that's silly but if you buy an expensive parts kit, why put it on a budget receiver?
So I've got Imbel, Argentine, Israeli and DSA. I would have bought Belgian or Austrian but I lived in California where they were named "assault weapons" and now I think I'm priced out of that market. There are British, Canadian and Australian but they actually trained so the parts kits were not nice and inch uppers were hard to find so none for me.
Imbels were forged. DSA does both cast and forged today. DSA never had a contract, but they did purchase tooling, tech-specs, and parts from Steyr. They acquired the entire STG58 productionline, which started off originally from Belgium. DSA is the only official, gov't contract holding manufacturer of FALs in the world today. Its a similar situation to CSA in Czech Republic with the SA VZ58. We have no more FAL imports because no one is still manufacturing new ones out there in the world. Sad I know.
@@misha5670 we have no more imports because Obama made a semi-auto import ban. With no commercial market and very few military customers all of the licensed manufacturers shut down...
I get why there are no military customers, the FAL was the high water mark of the old school metal and wood main battle rifle. Militaries have moved on to intermediate cartridge assault rifles or full size rifles with better accuracy potential for DMR type roles.
There was potential for a huge commercial market in the USA but the machinegun ban stopped the full auto imports and not all of the manufacturers made US legal semi-auto versions. The last ones standing were Imbel, Argentine and Lithgow I think but I don't think Lithgow imported too many, I'm not sure why.
Any way, I look at FALs and other military surplus rifles and the FAL makes almost everything look silly or crude, even the M1A.
@@beardoe6874 What Obama semi-auto ban are you talkikng about?
@@misha5670 my bad, it was JW Bush's ATF that banned the import of "non sporting" receivers. In light of Bruen regulating commonly available arms might be unconstitutional since FALs are not dangerous and unusual.
Any way one day things changed and the 6 Imbel.uppers I had on order for $189 each became 2 delivered for $249 each. After that it was all DSA and Coonan. Maybe Entreprise was still making uppers but by that time it was really unclear what you would get from them. For me that made DSA the only remaining option.
As you can tell I got in to FALs just a little too late. By that time only Imbel and Rhodesian parts kits were cheap. My Imbel recievers were from the last batch that made it in and I was both price gouged and screwed out of 4 recievers I ordered. If I had started collecting a year earlier I would have gotten my recievers at MSRP and probably better deals on several parts kits, more South African battle packs, etc.
@@beardoe6874 Semi-autos weren't banned, but in 1998 Bill Clinton made an amendment/addition/clarification to GH Bush's 1989 EO banning importation of "assault rifles". Basically, Clinton said that imports could no longer readily accept "high capacity" magazines. Thus lowcap magwells became a thing in the 21st century. GW Bush was responsible for the barrel ban in 2005, at least his ATF under the Exec branch made that change.
None of this will get overturned in court. Why? because the Constitution does not give us any 'rights' when it comes to imports or importation. Basically, all imports are considered a privlage only and thus can be regulated or blocked without much muss or fuss.
Cast receiver ok I guess (there on almost all dsa fals) , will never probably get above 500 at least, however the non chrome barrel kinda rubs me the wrong way especially for sitting around or going in humid climates alot
They are still doing forged guns, just those tend to be their higher end builds. Same goes for chromelined bores. They still make them, just not for the entry level.
I'd be more comfortable with a none-chromed barrel than a cast receiver. Just clean it and the barrel will last for a reasonable round count.
@@agentoranj5858 Just remember as I said in the video, FN themselves went to cast in 1977, but.....i tend to agree with you. I sold my Belgian FAL & FALO and replaced them with my Argie FMAP guns. I love my Rosario FALs. They actually got me down an Argie rabbithole. Ended up with their pistols and even an FMK3 carbine. Its my fav South Am. nation to collect, and all thanks to FN using cast receivers instead of forged by the 1980s preban era.
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Chrome or go home!
Funny thing is most Steyr STG58 barrels were not chromelined, though a decent percentage did have chrome plated chambers at least.
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Hey, you beat the Russianbot too lol.
Dude..... what do you do for a living that you can afford all of these awesome guns?😂😂😂
I am a gun dealer...so...pretty much this, what you see in the videos lol.
@misha5670 Ohhhhhhh that makes sense haha. Are these things that came into the dealership? Am I allowed to come look around the store? Lol
I have a DSA ,AR Carbine .Very nice. And I had an old CAI ,FAL I think it was metric. So sorry I sold it. I bought numerous parts from DSArms. All good products.🏆🪖🏆
The FAL was stamped, CIA....for Century International Arms.