Can definitely see more detail on the carbon fiber with the Sony a6700 when the filter is off (compared to the S10e). Even with the filter on, it seems comparable to the S10e in that regard. As for the rest, It seems like the a6700's contrast is slightly better, but my eyes are too poor to tell. Excited about the new equipment!
Yeah, it's not really a "fair" test because of the filter on the a6700, but as long as this new camera looks at least as good with the filter installed, that's all I can hope for because it cuts out so much glare. The Galaxy S10 cheats a bit by opening up the shutter for longer than it realistically should, resulting in a lot of motion blur... but maybe that's just what it takes in such poor lighting.
Honestly, it's not just the image quality, it's also the fact that it can mount a polarizing filter, and the fact that it can record a file type that my video editor doesn't hate, haha. Cell phone videos are pretty good, but I'm learning there are reasons why movies aren't shot on cell phones. Too bad, it's really convenient.
You can "fix" the vibration caused by the weapon by using something like a quadcopter/drone prop balancer (basically two level straight bars, the weapon goes on a solid axle with each end on the bar and then just keep rotating it and meticulously shave off bits until it doesn't has a point it wants to turn to) until it is perfectly balanced, but a couple of good hits will probably undo that so I'm not sure if it's worth the effort if it's just a tiny bit unbalanced.
In this case the glare also adds contrast between Cheesecake and the floor. The S10e seems less "pastel". Although the Sony might have the better shutter speed and be more crisp, the S10e is easier on the eyes. Maybe use both? The S10e for general footage and the Sony for the slo-mo shots?
Yep, I actually tried 1/125 before this test, but the image was really dark, and the aperture and ISO were about as far as I could reasonably bump them. Stupid polarizing filter. I wondered what my phone was doing to get such a bright image with such little noise, aside from the advantage of not having filter in front of it. By looking at the motion blur frame by frame, I determined that my phone's shutter speed is likely 1/60 (at least in this lighting), since there is no gap between each successive motion blur from one frame to the next. Despite how poor this practice is for shutter speed at a given frame rate, its footage still looks okay, so I figured setting my Sony camera to 1/80 was a reasonable sacrifice to let in more light. I might have to fiddle with this on the day of each tournament, but if it means cutting out the glare on the side of the arena, it's probably worth it.
Yep, checked some of my old tournament videos, and the motion blur doesn't have any gaps from one frame to the next, which indicates that my phone's shutter speed is likely 1/60. Little tricks like these make phones seem better than they are, although it's worked for me so far on this channel, so maybe that's actually the right approach to getting a nice bright image, we'll see.
Yes, I actually record in 4K but upload in 1080p. This is so I can zoom in in my editing software while still having 1080p video. I do this a lot to frame the shot and zoom in on slow motion hits.
I've just recently gotten into antweights with a horizontal in no small part to watching cheesecake in action. We might actually get to fight at this upcoming Sunday's event! Hopefully I get off the wait-list but I'll be there with my beetle regardless.
I did not like when the polarized filter was removing all the glare. it loses contrast and looks almost fake. maybe leave like 20% glare in so it looks a bit more natural?
Unrelated to the cameras, how does one get started entertaining robot combat events as well as constructing even just these smaller bots? It's been a dream of mine for years
Team Witch Doctor has a great playlist about how to build your first robot, which helped me a lot, linked below. As for hosting tournaments, I've never done it, but most people create events through RobotCombatEvents.com. th-cam.com/play/PL81yBUG7TPX3rRRStHBGLX0Rr2aaBqfFO.html&si=hNKhKwJ-lZqjNqbK
Wuddya know, I used to own an S10e, the camera was pretty darn good until the phone crapped out on me one night. Now I have a Motorola Edge (2022) and it's done the job swellingly.
What it comes down to with me is which camera shows the color properly. By looking at the wooden stairs I am thinking it is the Sony The higher frame rate of the Sony also made for smoother movements.
My eyes prefer samsung and my theory is I'm used to seeing videos processed by phone nowadays. Very good info as I'm about to buy a new phone and was thinking of buying a dslr as well
The Samsung is cheating in a couple of ways: it doesn't have a polarizing filter which blocks some of the precious light, and it's using a slower shutter speed to pull in even more light. I could match the shutter speed on my new camera, but I kind of want that crisp slow-mo, so I'm seeing just how dark of an image I can tolerate.
I'm using the included kit lens from Sony (16-50mm, which becomes 24-75mm on this APS-C camera). People like to trash the kit lens, but it's been very good to me. I think I'd get rather diminishing returns if I were to upgrade.
Were you just standing in the room during this test? If so, that’s pretty dangerous. I know Cheesecake is pretty darn reliable, but if something went wrong while the weapon was active, you’d be looking at some serious danger. Safety is a huge problem for new builders, and while I’m sure you took precautions, the viewers don’t know that, and newcomers might spin up a kitbot outside a test box thinking it’s okay because they saw it from an experienced builder like you. I don’t mean to be a buzzkill, but instilling safety practices into people early is important, and you’ve got a lot of people who watch the channel that have never built a bot before
To be clear, I was standing behind a wide wooden barrier below the frame of the camera, cutting off that entire side of the room. Probably should have made that more clear in the video. Added it to the start of the description.
I know you're not asking me but you definitely don't need a college education to get into combat robots. TH-cam has tons of resources if you want to learn starting off with a kit bot or progress your way into designing your own custom bots in CAD. It's not about showcasing what you know, It's about figuring out what you don't.
Well, I majored in mechanical engineering, but that's cheating, and you don't need to be a mechanical engineer to build a good combat robot. This playlist from Team Witchdoctor was very helpful to help narrow down the scope of what I should do for my robot: th-cam.com/video/OkAU8hRgrwQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. I am interested in going to college for mechanical engineering, and was wondering if that’s what you did. I just don’t know if I can handle the math though. I’d say I’m probably just average at math, which is the main thing I’m worried about.
@@yofacex1310 - Math is certainly an important part of it. Mechanical engineering is a big area of study though, and it really depends what you want to do for your career. I work in new product development, making tools and electronics for consumers, but I could have also worked on medical devices, cars, HVAC design, manufacturing quality, there's a lot out there.
@@alexsalchemyA big reason I’m interested in mechanical engineering is I want to be able to make cool things, but where I live most of it will be cars. I don’t really have much interest in cars, and I’m not super into the idea of machine tool stuff, but I want to be able to build stuff on my own, and because it’s so broad I think it gives me a choice on what I wanna do with it.
If you'd like to learn more about camera settings, you can watch this video which helped me immensely: th-cam.com/video/V7z7BAZdt2M/w-d-xo.html
Can definitely see more detail on the carbon fiber with the Sony a6700 when the filter is off (compared to the S10e). Even with the filter on, it seems comparable to the S10e in that regard.
As for the rest, It seems like the a6700's contrast is slightly better, but my eyes are too poor to tell.
Excited about the new equipment!
Yeah, it's not really a "fair" test because of the filter on the a6700, but as long as this new camera looks at least as good with the filter installed, that's all I can hope for because it cuts out so much glare. The Galaxy S10 cheats a bit by opening up the shutter for longer than it realistically should, resulting in a lot of motion blur... but maybe that's just what it takes in such poor lighting.
I much prefer watching the Sony.
Being fair isn't the Sony like a lot more expensive?
@@luisbetancourt-dp7hh Sure but he has it and I'd like to see it be used.
@@jaekamei yes yes, I got the video as a review comparation I absolutely agree with you
Honestly, it's not just the image quality, it's also the fact that it can mount a polarizing filter, and the fact that it can record a file type that my video editor doesn't hate, haha. Cell phone videos are pretty good, but I'm learning there are reasons why movies aren't shot on cell phones. Too bad, it's really convenient.
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Woah the glare things is cool, I have a fixed lens camera but need to look into a glare corrective lens cover thing
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You can "fix" the vibration caused by the weapon by using something like a quadcopter/drone prop balancer (basically two level straight bars, the weapon goes on a solid axle with each end on the bar and then just keep rotating it and meticulously shave off bits until it doesn't has a point it wants to turn to) until it is perfectly balanced, but a couple of good hits will probably undo that so I'm not sure if it's worth the effort if it's just a tiny bit unbalanced.
In this case the glare also adds contrast between Cheesecake and the floor. The S10e seems less "pastel". Although the Sony might have the better shutter speed and be more crisp, the S10e is easier on the eyes. Maybe use both? The S10e for general footage and the Sony for the slo-mo shots?
I plan to use both, at least initially. We'll see whose footage wins!
FYI for motion being filmed its generally advised to film at a shutter speed twice the frame rate so 1/120 or 1/125 for 60fps
Yep, I actually tried 1/125 before this test, but the image was really dark, and the aperture and ISO were about as far as I could reasonably bump them. Stupid polarizing filter.
I wondered what my phone was doing to get such a bright image with such little noise, aside from the advantage of not having filter in front of it. By looking at the motion blur frame by frame, I determined that my phone's shutter speed is likely 1/60 (at least in this lighting), since there is no gap between each successive motion blur from one frame to the next. Despite how poor this practice is for shutter speed at a given frame rate, its footage still looks okay, so I figured setting my Sony camera to 1/80 was a reasonable sacrifice to let in more light. I might have to fiddle with this on the day of each tournament, but if it means cutting out the glare on the side of the arena, it's probably worth it.
Yep, checked some of my old tournament videos, and the motion blur doesn't have any gaps from one frame to the next, which indicates that my phone's shutter speed is likely 1/60. Little tricks like these make phones seem better than they are, although it's worked for me so far on this channel, so maybe that's actually the right approach to getting a nice bright image, we'll see.
Cheesecake has lights? (I mean it makes sense but I've never seen them)
1. Did you upload at 1080p or am I just early?
2. Polarized filter for the *win*.
3. That's about it.
Yes, I actually record in 4K but upload in 1080p. This is so I can zoom in in my editing software while still having 1080p video. I do this a lot to frame the shot and zoom in on slow motion hits.
I still use S10e, love it, perfect phone)
the cake of cheese.
I've just recently gotten into antweights with a horizontal in no small part to watching cheesecake in action. We might actually get to fight at this upcoming Sunday's event! Hopefully I get off the wait-list but I'll be there with my beetle regardless.
I did not like when the polarized filter was removing all the glare. it loses contrast and looks almost fake. maybe leave like 20% glare in so it looks a bit more natural?
Unrelated to the cameras, how does one get started entertaining robot combat events as well as constructing even just these smaller bots? It's been a dream of mine for years
Team Witch Doctor has a great playlist about how to build your first robot, which helped me a lot, linked below. As for hosting tournaments, I've never done it, but most people create events through RobotCombatEvents.com.
th-cam.com/play/PL81yBUG7TPX3rRRStHBGLX0Rr2aaBqfFO.html&si=hNKhKwJ-lZqjNqbK
@@alexsalchemy thank you so much!
Wuddya know, I used to own an S10e, the camera was pretty darn good until the phone crapped out on me one night.
Now I have a Motorola Edge (2022) and it's done the job swellingly.
What it comes down to with me is which camera shows the color properly. By looking at the wooden stairs I am thinking it is the Sony The higher frame rate of the Sony also made for smoother movements.
I like the reduced glare on the Sony.
Is cheesecake running betaflight?
Nice ESC jingle!
I really took inspiration from cheesecake to build my own robot, it turned out as a viper kit named Condor!
That's awesome! Maybe we'll get to fight sometime!
@@alexsalchemy unlikely, I'm in the UK, but it is in some ways possible! You would probably win though
My eyes prefer samsung and my theory is I'm used to seeing videos processed by phone nowadays. Very good info as I'm about to buy a new phone and was thinking of buying a dslr as well
The Samsung is cheating in a couple of ways: it doesn't have a polarizing filter which blocks some of the precious light, and it's using a slower shutter speed to pull in even more light. I could match the shutter speed on my new camera, but I kind of want that crisp slow-mo, so I'm seeing just how dark of an image I can tolerate.
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Can you use a counter weight?
@@josiahamazeEverything costs weight and with combat robots, weight is always expensive.
Cheesecake is my parasocial father. This is the new normal.
make the blade more balanced it might help
what lens is also important
I'm using the included kit lens from Sony (16-50mm, which becomes 24-75mm on this APS-C camera). People like to trash the kit lens, but it's been very good to me. I think I'd get rather diminishing returns if I were to upgrade.
@@alexsalchemy ho yeah for kit lenses sony as pretty good ones
Were you just standing in the room during this test? If so, that’s pretty dangerous. I know Cheesecake is pretty darn reliable, but if something went wrong while the weapon was active, you’d be looking at some serious danger.
Safety is a huge problem for new builders, and while I’m sure you took precautions, the viewers don’t know that, and newcomers might spin up a kitbot outside a test box thinking it’s okay because they saw it from an experienced builder like you. I don’t mean to be a buzzkill, but instilling safety practices into people early is important, and you’ve got a lot of people who watch the channel that have never built a bot before
To be clear, I was standing behind a wide wooden barrier below the frame of the camera, cutting off that entire side of the room. Probably should have made that more clear in the video. Added it to the start of the description.
The sony is much better in capturing material and light detail. Bigger sensor = more detail
What did you major in college to get into this?
I know you're not asking me but you definitely don't need a college education to get into combat robots. TH-cam has tons of resources if you want to learn starting off with a kit bot or progress your way into designing your own custom bots in CAD. It's not about showcasing what you know, It's about figuring out what you don't.
Well, I majored in mechanical engineering, but that's cheating, and you don't need to be a mechanical engineer to build a good combat robot. This playlist from Team Witchdoctor was very helpful to help narrow down the scope of what I should do for my robot: th-cam.com/video/OkAU8hRgrwQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. I am interested in going to college for mechanical engineering, and was wondering if that’s what you did. I just don’t know if I can handle the math though. I’d say I’m probably just average at math, which is the main thing I’m worried about.
@@yofacex1310 - Math is certainly an important part of it. Mechanical engineering is a big area of study though, and it really depends what you want to do for your career. I work in new product development, making tools and electronics for consumers, but I could have also worked on medical devices, cars, HVAC design, manufacturing quality, there's a lot out there.
@@alexsalchemyA big reason I’m interested in mechanical engineering is I want to be able to make cool things, but where I live most of it will be cars. I don’t really have much interest in cars, and I’m not super into the idea of machine tool stuff, but I want to be able to build stuff on my own, and because it’s so broad I think it gives me a choice on what I wanna do with it.
Sony for sure
Day 3 of trying to get pinned😎