It is worth noting that "pulse and glide" also works on Honda IMA hybrids thanks to their CVT, though it is noteworthy that when driven in this manner the energy flows are in the opposite direction. It would seem that the most important thing these hybrids do is having that big electric motor and reserve to cover for weak spots in the ICE's powerband. In a first generation Insight for example, you would "pulse" by holding the throttle at just the right point to engage the IMA whilst using as little engine power as possible, then thr "glide" phase is achieved by feathering the throttle such that instantanious fuel economy is 55mpg+. It is also quire helpful to be exceptionally light on the brakes as with other hybrids so that the IMA has time to recover as much energy as possible, and it is also not a great idea to cruise at above 65mph for long as the car may elect to turn off the IMA assist function.
So true. I used the same method on my 2007 Civic Hybrid which is now my daughter's car with over 200K miles. It was always a bit of a game commuting to and from work to see how good that particular day's MPgs went. I was always able to get numbers well above the rated MPGs for that car (52-56 during summer months). Now in a 10th gen Accord Hybrid and this method isn't really necessary anymore due to the software and hardware design. It kind of does most of it for you. There are still little methods to take advantage of that it can't foresee which still helps to keep me involved in the numbers game...
When driving feather the accelerator, as your car has its inertia ie if you lift off the accelerator the car will roll on till it eventually stops, so by lightly feathering the pedal you use that momentum as a free ride & lightly press it to keep your speed. Its more suited to mway but will work anywhere.
One of the most important things you can do to increase milage is to use cruise. You have less of a tendency to start fast and also keep your car driving steadily. Also, letting up on the gas when you notice the traffic light change. My goal is not stopping for the light, which means you don't have to stop and wait for the light to change which uses more electricity/gas. When you drive a hybrid car there are many things you can do to extend battery life and conserve gas.
I get better gas mileage in Econ Mode after accelerating I lock in cruise control and I get a better use of EV mode. I stay regularly at around 44mpg on my work commutes and about 42 everywhere else
be careful with Eco Mode. Personally i never use this, i hear that is not good for the hybrid battery. Of course if you don't keep the car to more that 150000 miles doesn't matter. I had one that i sold with 230.000 miles 2008 and still had the original hybrid battery.
That is all good, but what about extending the life of the hybrid battery. I bought a hybrid lexus with 85.000, 2016. I will like to keep it to more than 200000 miles. the price of the battery is not cheap, i will like to have decent consumption and the battery to last a long time.
The main batteries rarely fail in my experience. One local major metropolitan dealership that completes around 1,800 to 2,000+ Repair Orders (including routine maintenance) per month has seen two traction bawttery failure since August, 2019. Both vehicles were over ten years old with well over 200,000 miles on the odometer. In the scheme of things it’s not something to be concerned about. In my experience these are extremely reliable vehicles.
I’m not sure. This technique was developed before plug in hybrids were a thing. It might but it might also deplete the battery quicker during the acceleration phase
Most likely not since what this method does is make sure the gas engine is off as much as possible and maximize battery regen. In EV mode on a PHEV, the engine isn't running at all and you're using more battery capacity than regening between the pulse and glide cycles. Best things to do for EV mode are pretty much the same as for maximizing MPG on a gasoline model: Reduce speed, accelerate modestly, coast as much as possible, use HVAC as little as possible, keep windows up.
Whomever drives behind you must be driven nuts: you constantly change your speed, all the time. It is exhausting, put yourself at risk and not worth it, even it could save 3mpg as you mentioned.
This. Please don't try to curate your mpg with how fast you drive or accelerated. Drive defensively. That is it. You're taking your attention away from safe driving.
Ya if you are not applying the brake, I doubt its gonna use regen braking... Why would it dop that, thats bad design. The driver doesnt want to apply brakes if the accel pedal is idle. Braking is done with the brake pedal... Thats what its there for.
@@pinecedar180 I know on honda hybrids whenever you take your foot off accelerator it starts slowing the car down. not significant but it is recharging battery.
@@pinecedar180RAV4 hybrids do in fact use regen braking anytime you are not on the gas or brakes. There’s a monitor on the dash and infotainment that display power transfer as well as the tachometer.
that’s not how you drive for best mpg we have 2023 RAV4 hybrid clean and total average over 35k miles 46.1 mpg keep car in eco 100/ of time light to medium take offs keeping needle in middle to upper eco line near power level wants at steady speed keep foot barely on gas pedals to maintain speed with engine off in ev mode with needle bare in the eco line coast to stops and in the summer uses ac on 1 to 2 bars on 73 to 72 degrees helps you run in ev mode longer also get good window tint helps with the heat dry in park in shade when you can to avoid blasting ac to cool the car roll windows down in the summer to let heat out ac works quicker we get 585 miles per tank and 44 to 45 mpg hand calculated at the pump also every week check your tire pressure we keep ares at 41 psi in the summer also when the engine is running try and keep needle in lower part of eco line when white bars raises your efficiency last think we always change are oil at 5k miles listen to what car care nut on TH-cam says engine will last long time we drive 800 miles a week every 6 weeks we get oil change and also check your hybrid fan filter in the back seat of your car thanks
Aka slow down -speed up causing the car behind to think your old or lost or both
Ummmm… no. Feather the throttle which keeps it in a 3mph range pretty easily keeping up with traffic
We can't really see the traffic, but your range is about 15 mph in this video. Could be due to other vehicles. 🤷♂ @@TrainerSteveClifford
@@calculus77 it was really only 5mph when he was actually demonstrating
It is worth noting that "pulse and glide" also works on Honda IMA hybrids thanks to their CVT, though it is noteworthy that when driven in this manner the energy flows are in the opposite direction. It would seem that the most important thing these hybrids do is having that big electric motor and reserve to cover for weak spots in the ICE's powerband. In a first generation Insight for example, you would "pulse" by holding the throttle at just the right point to engage the IMA whilst using as little engine power as possible, then thr "glide" phase is achieved by feathering the throttle such that instantanious fuel economy is 55mpg+. It is also quire helpful to be exceptionally light on the brakes as with other hybrids so that the IMA has time to recover as much energy as possible, and it is also not a great idea to cruise at above 65mph for long as the car may elect to turn off the IMA assist function.
So true. I used the same method on my 2007 Civic Hybrid which is now my daughter's car with over 200K miles. It was always a bit of a game commuting to and from work to see how good that particular day's MPgs went. I was always able to get numbers well above the rated MPGs for that car (52-56 during summer months). Now in a 10th gen Accord Hybrid and this method isn't really necessary anymore due to the software and hardware design. It kind of does most of it for you. There are still little methods to take advantage of that it can't foresee which still helps to keep me involved in the numbers game...
When driving feather the accelerator, as your car has its inertia ie if you lift off the accelerator the car will roll on till it eventually stops, so by lightly feathering the pedal you use that momentum as a free ride & lightly press it to keep your speed. Its more suited to mway but will work anywhere.
When I use to drive a prius, I was told the same and drive with that habit. It save me so much MPG up to 48-52mpg on city and beyond on highway.
Excellent explanation, thank you for making this video.
One of the most important things you can do to increase milage is to use cruise. You have less of a tendency to start fast and also keep your car driving steadily. Also, letting up on the gas when you notice the traffic light change. My goal is not stopping for the light, which means you don't have to stop and wait for the light to change which uses more electricity/gas. When you drive a hybrid car there are many things you can do to extend battery life and conserve gas.
Do you use this for city or hwy only ?
I get better gas mileage in Econ Mode after accelerating I lock in cruise control and I get a better use of EV mode. I stay regularly at around 44mpg on my work commutes and about 42 everywhere else
be careful with Eco Mode. Personally i never use this, i hear that is not good for the hybrid battery. Of course if you don't keep the car to more that 150000 miles doesn't matter. I had one that i sold with 230.000 miles 2008 and still had the original hybrid battery.
That is all good, but what about extending the life of the hybrid battery. I bought a hybrid lexus with 85.000, 2016. I will like to keep it to more than 200000 miles. the price of the battery is not cheap, i will like to have decent consumption and the battery to last a long time.
The main batteries rarely fail in my experience. One local major metropolitan dealership that completes around 1,800 to 2,000+ Repair Orders (including routine maintenance) per month has seen two traction bawttery failure since August, 2019.
Both vehicles were over ten years old with well over 200,000 miles on the odometer.
In the scheme of things it’s not something to be concerned about.
In my experience these are extremely reliable vehicles.
@@pibble3962 thanks. Really reliable, but damn uncomfortable to drive for more than a few hours.
I don’t understand it, but I can confirm that I got significantly better mileage doing this.
Whilst keeping your eyes on the green EV light, what’s happening on the road right in front of you?
No one said to do that. Just glance at it like you would when you're checking the speedometer.
40 mpg using sports mode havin fun
Will ths work to elongate the EV range on a R4Prime?
I’m not sure. This technique was developed before plug in hybrids were a thing. It might but it might also deplete the battery quicker during the acceleration phase
Most likely not since what this method does is make sure the gas engine is off as much as possible and maximize battery regen. In EV mode on a PHEV, the engine isn't running at all and you're using more battery capacity than regening between the pulse and glide cycles. Best things to do for EV mode are pretty much the same as for maximizing MPG on a gasoline model: Reduce speed, accelerate modestly, coast as much as possible, use HVAC as little as possible, keep windows up.
@IceNFire09 will it work once my prius prime is fully out of battery thus running on hybrid mode?
@@ashb8572 Since your Prime will run the same as a regular Prius once the battery is exhausted, I don't see why not.
Elongate 😂 you know what is elongating? My, you know what
It always works well, until you come across other drivers who cant drive properly....
Whomever drives behind you must be driven nuts: you constantly change your speed, all the time.
It is exhausting, put yourself at risk and not worth it, even it could save 3mpg as you mentioned.
This. Please don't try to curate your mpg with how fast you drive or accelerated. Drive defensively. That is it. You're taking your attention away from safe driving.
That is not how you do it with a hybrid. Whenever are charging you are not gliding, you are braking
Depends on the hybrid. A lot of hybrids don't have regenerative breaking.
@@bojangjoreski1260 raw 4 does
Ya if you are not applying the brake, I doubt its gonna use regen braking... Why would it dop that, thats bad design. The driver doesnt want to apply brakes if the accel pedal is idle. Braking is done with the brake pedal... Thats what its there for.
@@pinecedar180 I know on honda hybrids whenever you take your foot off accelerator it starts slowing the car down. not significant but it is recharging battery.
@@pinecedar180RAV4 hybrids do in fact use regen braking anytime you are not on the gas or brakes. There’s a monitor on the dash and infotainment that display power transfer as well as the tachometer.
My corolla is barely ever in EV mode. Idk why
I'd hate to be stuck behind you doing this.
a tutorial on how to ruin your roadtrip driving pleasure
You might say that about changing gears, yes it becomes second nature & that will as well.
that’s not how you drive for best mpg we have 2023 RAV4 hybrid clean and total average over 35k miles 46.1 mpg keep car in eco 100/ of time light to medium take offs keeping needle in middle to upper eco line near power level wants at steady speed keep foot barely on gas pedals to maintain speed with engine off in ev mode with needle bare in the eco line coast to stops and in the summer uses ac on 1 to 2 bars on 73 to 72 degrees helps you run in ev mode longer also get good window tint helps with the heat dry in park in shade when you can to avoid blasting ac to cool the car roll windows down in the summer to let heat out ac works quicker we get 585 miles per tank and 44 to 45 mpg hand calculated at the pump also every week check your tire pressure we keep ares at 41 psi in the summer also when the engine is running try and keep needle in lower part of eco line when white bars raises your efficiency last think we always change are oil at 5k miles listen to what car care nut on TH-cam says engine will last long time we drive 800 miles a week every 6 weeks we get oil change and also check your hybrid fan filter in the back seat of your car thanks
That literally was the longest sentence ever
You didnt use a single period
I found this really helpful but hard to understand. Can you break it down again please I want to make the most out of the ev mode.
Did u not learn to use ponctuation ? No one understands what u saying