Don't trust the AC shill. He's just a toxic 'influencer' who clearly hates Reiza. He is part of a cabal who want to bring downfall to the best sim in all of racing. All he had to do was change his camera settings and the physics would be fixed but he never tries it FOR SOME REASON. Its time to say enough is enough.
Did you even watch the video? He was actually positive about AMS2 because they improved it so much. It still has a long way to go with the tyre physics as the slip angles are just ridiculously big compared to reality, you can see this no matter what FOV or camera angle you use!
Tabs was joking , its bassed on comments I have had in the past with people just coming out with totally random things any time I say something critical about their specific sim of choice. @@xzanman
I have to say, Le Mans on AMS2 is bloody awesome. I'm loving it. Putting all debates to one side, I had so much fun in the Mclren just lapping until the sun went down - 25% time acceleration, cloudy weather, mixed grid. I really think they did a great job, so glad it's in AMS2 as I race offline. I'm a happy sim freakazoid.
AMS2 does seem to respond to trail braking for me personally. However its not in the same way that AC1 or AMS1 does so I really had to adjust my style unfortunately. Since it runs and looks so great in VR and has the content I'm after, I do still use it often. Hoping they continue to improve the physics!
You can still trail brake obviously , but as I said in the video its really not like the load is going to the front its like you are just removing grip from the rear / as if the car is actually just a single wheel rather than 4 wheels. The cars rotate much better on power in AMS2 regardless of car setup so you really just want to get on power ASAP rather than at a more natural mid point / the point in a corner you would in other simulators. You just have to drive ams2 in a super specific way that's basically the same way you had to drive project cars 2 ( though slightly toned down)
@@GamerMuscleVideos Yeah, You give very good desciption of car moving in AMS2. And there feels like pivot in the point near rear axle. In Dirt Rally 2 is this in center of a car.
@@BrandonRauser I don't think dirt rally 1-2 or Wrc have a central pivot but lots of people feel it does probably due to how the cars generally respond to input and how grip returns. With AMS2 , RBR and other off road stuff the cars tend to keep sliding sideways longer / the whole car tends to slide out more than just rear or front which I think then feels more natural. There can be lots of reasons why people feel a car is rotating from a specific location some maybe real some.might just be perception. But yah Im not sure where the dirt 2 rotating from centre thing started from 🤣 and then how true it is or if it's even right or wrong.
@@GamerMuscleVideos The "removing grip from the rear" thing is definitely how it feels for me in most AMS2 cars. Interestingly, the Mercedes GT4 and the new BMW M4 GT3 both feel a lot less like that, and they're much more believable for it IMO. I don't know why those cars feel like you can drive them with the front end more, but it's so nice
You were very precise in your description of the game's behavior: I have a t300 and little time, so I don't practice enough to drive at the limit of each car. For a relaxed and hassle-free race, there's no better game.
They all have problems but some have more problems than other and some specific problems are more of an issue than others - Nothing is ever perfect but that does not stop one from being able to quantifiably still say that X is better or worse than Y in specific ways. saying "every sim out there has problems " is basically saying " Please don't compare or lets just say everything is the same so nobody points out what is actually broken about my sim of choice" Its the same as saying "all Politian's and political parties are the same" and so I'm not going to vote ... its like yah the parties you can vote for suck and don't represent what you want and are largely full of BS but even in the most broken democracies with limited choice one political party will on balance be better or worse than another for specific things or be more or less likely to represent what a person wants or what is objectively better or worse for a country.
The one thing that kills AC and RF2 for me is the god awful ai. AMS2 and ACC, in that order, are the only sims where I feel the ai is actually racing me and not just racing a line and driving through me. I believe the physics in ASM2 and then including the ai and all round solid content gives it the best sim for off-line racing bar none. An important part of the update is the new championship modes. These guys are killing it in my opinion.
Yep only iracing and AMS2 have good ai F1 2023 is kinda ok AI , Race room AI works ok but is boring , RF2 AI is all over the place from track to track and AC AI tends to get stuck or so weard stuff at random.depending on car and track.
It funny that you say I wouldn't recommend it for training purposes... As a former owner driver of a formula Ford I would say AMS2 is as close to feeling like a real race car (formula trainer) than anything else Ive ever driven. I've also driven a Porsche cup car and again AmS2 is pretty close. ACC is the only thing that's somewhat been close before now. AC on the other hand to me has never felt like fluid
@@GamerMuscleVideos I guess it comes down to a feel thing. Who ever is setting up the cars at the AmS2 shop clearly likes them skiddy. I've found it's easy to tune out though as set up changes make sense. AMS 1 didn't, RF2 for mine didn't but I know many people like it. AC some cars do others are counter intuitive but that's the modding community. But all is gravy. Discussion/critique and analysis are all good things and all lead to improvments for us all to enjoy
As a VR only user, AC1 is great as long as you don't go near a curb, ACC is great but runs like blurry shit on VR, Iracing is great but bloody expensive, so I thoroughly enjoy driving on AMS2 in VR. I don't quite like how the GT3s feel in it, but I'm a bit tired of GT3s anyway :)
Yah no way to know if a car is handling generally realistic or not or if a physics engine is doing something super weird unless you have driven that specific car / plane / done the simulated thing in real life. No way one could notice or tell at all.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Those are your words, not mine. But since you have zero experience, you might want to use less definitive language when describing what is realistic or even plausible. Just try not to speak with such total confidence and authority. Your sense of humour and opinions comparing sims are great...it's only when you tread over into proclaimed subject matter expert that things go off the rails.
@@marccollins1445 what I'm saying is not wrong though , and I'm talking about super high level obvious aspects of physics. The only reason it might sound contentious is from fanboys arguing. I talk to plenty of real world race drivers and know people that own race cars , they say the same things as me. It's really obvouse in what ways AMS2 is massively off , just as it's really obvouse that take on helicopters are massively off from DCS helicopters. So sure if I was wrong it would be an issue but I'm not... I don't have to be senna to tell you that mario kart is less realistic than gran turismo. It's funny how when an e-sports driver says exactly what I have said all the fanboys agree with them... Because they listen to the authority not the actual points being made. I can't help people that lack critical thinking ability.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Yes, many e-sports experts have about the same amount of real-world experience as you do, which is why their commentary is also meaningless in terms of realism. They can give good advice about how best to exploit or maximize performance on a piece of software, but not how it relates to reality. I am sure you are familiar with Josef Newgarden's controversial comments about iRacing. He could have been doing an AMS 2 advert... th-cam.com/video/UoX9M2yuNTA/w-d-xo.html Think about those comments versus yours. As I said, it is only the authoritative presentation I am rejecting. You can have whatever opinions you want, especially about what would make the game fun or better. But sorry, your judgements about its realism, especially versus other software, are close to meaningless. Just express them as opinions or impressions instead of facts and all will be well in the credibility department. And yes, I have driven several different classes of race cars and karts in real life--enough experience to know not to make such strong pronouncements.
The LMDh cars are absolutely amazing and the new graphics updates are quite impressive. I know AMS2 is far from perfect but each update does get better and better and the last few have been quite amazing. I had many hours on project cars 2 so I've always viewed AMS2 as the real Project Cars 3. If they would make the drafting physics more like Project Cars 2 on the ovals I know a lot of people that would play AMS2 religously. Its so close but just not quite there yet.
I kind of understand the fundamentals of your critic towards car behavior, but from my point of view it varys greatly between cars and in general is not that severe. I do have to trailbrake, if I want to be fast ams2 and acceleration out of the corner is rotation rather than drifting for me. I dirve mainly rf2 and ams2 and I like the rf2 physics more, but the gap has been closing reasently. I don't even touch ac1 anymore.
You still trail brake but you get on gas way sooner in ams2 than most other Sims as gas rotates rear in just about all situations more effectively than anything else. Most other Sims if you went into corners like one does in AMS2 gas would cause understeer or the rear to be uncatchable ams2 you can drive on gas like a mad person with car rotating as if the wheels are irrelevant. I still wonder if there is some weard diff issue with AMS2 , cars handle as if they have really locked dif in general , but combined with some of the most forgiving tires in all of simracing.
So u are saying that in ams2 its Hard to have unwanted understeer by careless throtle use in rwd cars. I have tu test that in purpose cause I dont change my throttle use so much between sims. But I tiried all ready in rf2 with bmw m2, in that car its almost impossible to have understeer when u accelerate.
Have to say tougth I don´t drive gt3 car at all. So I can´t anytihing about them. I would say that the vintage porsche has plenty of understeer under acceleration, if u drive it like normal car and it turns allmost only by sliding, but that feels natural for me as I learned to dirve rwd car with locked diff in ice and snow 😀. One thing I would say that ams2 has low friction at low speeds
I won't be shocked if AMS 2 becomes one of the best sims in the comming years, yes i know that physics and ffb are not amazing at the moment but Reiza Studios are really trying to make this sim work and it's getting better and better. I really hope that they can make a proper sim from AMS 2 in coming years.
I want to see a Rally sim on this engine. That slidey nature would just be perfect. The new WRC game makes my system die, and DR2 is meh. After playing AMS2, I'm convinced this game engine is the answer. Honestly I wish the post-gmotor base was used in more titles in general. I miss large grid full fledged events like this.
Codemasters owns Slightly Mad Studios as of 2019, so they could have easily used the Madness Engine for WRC instead of UE4 or Ego, and have people on staff who know the ins and outs to help with the transition to this other technology base. When they acquired them, I thought it was a real possibility, and there were some 20km routes in PCARS so we know it could handle stages on the length scale of Pikes Peak Full for DR. I still think it would have been so much better than dealing with all the technical issues UE4 has created for them. Issues they're still trying to fix and failing at. Still would love to see a rally game in this engine as well. WRC is an endless bummer of technology getting in the way of enjoyment, on both the visual and performance side of things.
Hmm about the Trail Braking. I mean you do drive very shifty bud like you're driving with a controller and not a wheel. Maybe you should drive more smooth with intention and use minor adjustments and smooth wheel transitions and movements instead of jerking around like in the video. While I respect your opinion, been on a real track or two and have to say AMS2 has it good, even though I'm also an AC, ACC, and iRacing fanboi. Those have their better moments too. Point is been trailbraking for years in games and in the real stuff and can say you can do it here too, so don't know what that's all about.
I didn't say you can't trail brake , I said you do t trail brake in AMS2 like you do in many of the other sims. The way you have to drive in AMS2 is super wonky some cars better than others but it's still got the core issues PC2 has. Just a overly sloppy sim like driving on warn out cut slicks or weard road tires rather than slick tires. It's like the physics are operating in slow motion , which I think is why some people like it because you can have the reaction times of a sloth and precision of a gibbon and feel like senna through corners.
@@GamerMuscleVideos hmm I guess it's all about personal perception and preference. Been around in Sim Racing since GTR2, plenty of time on and off in iRacing, Assetto Corsa and others, plenty of real track time, been in and built professional racing simulators for race car drivers, taken coaching from these drivers and heard their opinions of "sims", and while they have their own different nuances, I wouldn't go as far as the extremes you mention here. Think that's a bit overstated. While I do miss the tire model in AC and ACC, it's been progressively improved than before and I think what you are saying here is more on par with what it was than what it is. Also I trail brake the same across all the sims, yeah you get a little different reference, but not that much off. Not that I'm an expert on this but based on your video and wheel position and rotations, I think your steering transitions like depicted put you skating on the edge of grip.
I challenge you GM, do an Interlagos time trial World record attempt with a GTE car and show me you can do a world record by drifting the car. Lets see how you get the car through the slow corners fast if you don't trail brake.
I didn't say you can't trail brake , you can trail brake in any racing game with analog input. The point is how the car responds to trail braking and to what degree and what point you go from trail braking to power , also how prone the rear is to stepping out when braking at the different speeds and how it does that. And then what really matters is how grip comes and goes from tires and in what way. Needless to say AMS2 drives in a very different way to AC,AMS1,RF2.
absolute bull mate, you realise you can tweak brake bias to affect trail braking? also these cars that feel slidey just need a tweak to rear suspension 😂
I agree with your car rotation point I often feel that rotation is what is holding me back from the next level of my times. Also I demand a refund of my time because the rest or the video I just had to sit through for some reason. SIGH.
Raceroom gets even less, despite having the widest range of cars/tracks, a new tyre model which has changed the handling for the better, and a good offline experience. It's just a shame that the multiplayer is broken and most of the servers are empty, even at peak times.
@@stefanschuchardt5734 You used to be able to mod bigger grid sizes, like 60+, into AMS2 with some memory and file editing. Definitely wasn't perfect, but it could be done and it worked pretty well for a janky hack. I really wonder what issue they're having that prevents it from being properly implemented because it would be a massive feature to have
Refund demanded! Yeah i like that assessment. "Removing grip from the rear" rather than shifting weight to the front. But yes, the physics have MUCH improved in this game over time, from a point i wouldn't even play it, to now where it really feels like 90+ % there. After testing the AI, they are quite good as well. Will probably be my game to recommend to new players who might want to get into racing because it now feels quite good, is easy to set up, runs well, and works decent with gamepad or whatever other hardware they want to use.
Great sim and easy with friends that are not really in to simracing. They can play with the gamepad and AI in multiplayer is always a win in my book. AC was always the worst in that (no clue how it is now)
Yeah ac is more realistic but when you have such details on the wheel and your motion platform, God ams2 is way over ac acc and everything else. Physics I can live with. The immersion is in a different league.
Surely cars not really driving like cars is rather immersion braking ? AC with pure and in a proper race with people on LFM in VR or a league race also looks amazing , then you have the weird cam issue in AMS2. It is nice how you can quickly set things up in ams2 and AI racing is great
Imagine the very best car you drove in PC2, now imagine it improved to be even better than it was as simply the best handling car in PC2, and now imagine that's the standard for all the cars in the game, and imagine the AI drove better than a lot of public lobbies. That's kind of how I see AMS2.
Happy new year! Thinking of getting into sim racing I’m thinking between the g290 for Xbox layout or t128p wheel. I only play driving games one or two times a month but I still find controller boring so I think those two would fit me just fine? Also don’t have a dedicated sim chair and rig.
Well, I would ask for a refund for my time, but I don't know what that amount would be. I just enjoyed watching those other 2 guys battling it out and trying to stay on the track while you were talking all the time. I did see at the beginning of the race 2 incidents where a car would go flying up into the air. Not too sure what that was all about. I have AMS 2 but have not put allot of time behind the wheel. So far the game has been good for me. Also just got an update for AMS 2. So they continue to work on the game. Thanks for the video and take care.
Ah yes the compelling counterpoint of "you don't know what you are talking about" wow you really added to the conversation ! Funny enough I know people that own and drive race cars and talk to lots of people about sims and sim physics , it's weird that lots of them agree with me given that " I have no idea what I'm talking about" God forbid someone have a lose idea what slick tires behave like from being in a few race cars , watching videos and also talking to actual race drivers.. nope no way they could rightfully come to the conclusion that AMS2 has huge controllable slip and some rather weard behavior. I'd imagine all the people in the comments under this video that agree and have added to what I have said are wrong as well. I suppose other people that have made videos talking about how the slip in AMS2 is a quite different from other sims are also totally wrong. All idiots that have no idea !
I bought AMS2 yesterday at the Steam sale. It really feels like pCARS2. Also fish have legs. But it's very drivable once you get custom ffb and a custom ffb profile for your wheel.
You don't need custom profiles anymore since the 1.5 update honestly default and default plus are bloody amazing on the custom ones just ruin it and make it feel spongy and terrible
@@anonharingenamn nice 😎 enjoy mate . I have asetek la prima so obv everyone's milage may vary but I can't see it making that much difference between different dd wheels of its power . You get so much feedback with default+ 😎
Was that whole video just a subtle non-humble brag? First, he spends 5 minutes explaining in detail how he can pinpoint what is exactly problematic with the game, then tells viewers "Dont worry you would probably be fine, only the top tier sim racers would notice it anyway."
how to get a linear input using mouse steering (FreePie)? does using steering wheel also not linear ? its like the game have a permanent sensitivity center reduction...
When I race in AMS2 I always go wow that was fun but.... I don't feel connected to the ground. In RaceRoom and AC I genuinely feel like after I 'master' a track, I could hop into a real car and hotlap. The new RaceRoom update is awesome, with reshade the graphics are pretty good. RaceRoom physics are on point but I hope they upgrade the engine to stay up to date, and I hope the online comes back afterwards. AC2 if done right, 'cough not ACC', I hope will be great.
Ok so i did the whole "camera fix" to really reduce the floaty disconnect feel and also i've started tweaking car setups as defaults are often way too stiff for some tracks. Your thoughts on this please plus a refund for my time.
I've really enjoyed AMS 2 lately, so I will definitely pick up the new DLC. That said, I demand a refund for my time knitting that corduroy cardigan for your aunt's uncle during the most recent solstice, James!
I might try ams2 again. Last time I checked it was fun but physics were lacking. Its better than forza but I don't feel like calling ams2 a sim. Im not sure if they can fix physics without redoing the game engine.. maybe ams2 is meant to be a fun, sightly more 'serious' game
Do you mean a good experience on gamepad/controller using the standard Reiza controller settings, or do you have any specific controller settings which are good?
@@GamerMuscleVideos Thanks for the answer. That would be great. I am also struggling to find a comfortable controller setting. Currently trying to run all the sensitivities on 50, speed sensitivity on 50 and controller dampening on 17. Deadzones are all at 0. I don’t know if that feels authentic or if it is too sensitive.
The counter steer assist setting is really good to leave on and ends up being more realsitic than with it off , then i think its about getting sensitivity right ill have a fiddle again , i was mostly trying to use gyro to control mouse @@Yeah841
I demand a refund for my time I also will surely regret following GMs advice to give a full day night cycle LeMans VR race a go. The next best thing to do if the Nordschleife is closed and you cannot burn your mony over there. Thanks GM for giving me a reason to further waste my time and ressources, well done Side note: the F1 cars in AMS2 are the only F1 cars I like in any sim, exactly because they are unrealistic and ridiculously slidy. Historic cars without downforce are still not too good but getting better.
This game feels like it was designed specifically for use on fanatec hardware. It just feels so insanely good. And I've heard it doesn't feel as good on other gear.
Feels the same on the Moza R12 as CSLDD and DD1 and Simucube 2 so no its not "designed specifically for use on fanatec hardware , your comment makes no sense.
@@GamerMuscleVideos agreed, running it on a Moza R5 with my AC1 settings and it actually feels pretty good. If the forces are a bit week I just boost the car's FFB in game
I want to like it because it looks great, but all this physics stuff is a massive distraction. Even as a beginner, i don't want the sim to be teaching me habits that won't work anywhere else. So rFactor2 it is. I demand a refund for my time.
2024 is GAME CHANGING ! Looking forward to the new toaster collection, especially with their line of different timers ! Where did I put my screwdriver already ? ... And I demand a refund for my time.
I demand a refund for MY time sir! AMS2 is GREAT for everyone to play as long as your ok with the physics and the lack of trail braking. If you go into it looking to relax and have fun racing competent AI it's a fabulous game
I'd "demand a refund for my time". But unfortunately. not only am I an AC Fanboy - but a GamerMuscle Fanboy as well (Shhhhhh, please don't tell anyone ; )))
I demand a refund for my time. Totally agree about the physics though. You still can drive with zero manners compared to other titles, basically you just hulk it around the corner like a rock ape and plaster the throttle on the way out. I know next update I'll fall for every TH-camrs claim of it being "game changing", I'll do the same as i do each time, jump on, race and then think - "hmmm that was nice", then go back to AC/AMS1 for however many months till the next "game changer" comes out. The core DNA just can't be cracked it seems.
Why would it even mater ? - You don't have to be a bloody race driver or pilot to know how planes and cars generally move around or when they are massively off from reality , we are not talking about subtle things and details here.
@@GamerMuscleVideos the point is are any of them close to reality, not really they are all off in some way as they are sims and not reality. It’s all subjective and opinion. Not fact or truth. I suppose the hours we put into these games makes us think we are experts when in truth we are no where near that. We are just old men playing games with expensive equipment. And I am talking about myself as much as I am about you sir. Nice video though.
@@GamerMuscleVideos I don't disagree with you on the overall physics of the various games, but to know what a real GT3 car physics are at the limit, one would have to drive a real Gt3 car at the limit. There are RL GT3 drivers who think Iracing has the most realistic breaking action. There are RL GT3 drivers who think ACC is the one (which I think I crazy but what do I know?) To me AC just feels the most correct. There is a distinct difference between the weight transfer in AC and AMS2. But I find RF2 to be just as slide happy as AMS2 but without the polish. Who the hell knows? I guess the goal is to make enough money to buy an in game car in RL and track it on an in game track and compare. Hopefully AC2 will be more Ac and less ACC.
Use the Fanatec affiliate links, if you want to support the guy who has been s-ing on AMS2 for a long time. GM is deleting my comments. *What, you don't like how I tell how you really are? I thought you said you didn't care about the "fanboys"!? I guess you care now! Oh and "You don't really trail brake in AMS2" WHAT??? I trail brake all the time. That helps me rotate the car. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Also, why are you showing and complaining about GT3 cars, when the stars of the update are clearly the LMDh cars!?
I don't delete comments unless they are attacking people , auto moderation will remove spam , links or rude comments so maybe you need to work on how you communicate. Try trail braking in AC,AMS1, iRacing , RF2 and pay attention to how the cars roll into the corners more. Not sure what's going on with AMS2 always seemed to me like it has an issue simulating differentials and wight transfer or it's just some random thing from the tires. I don't know what causes it but you have to approach AMS2 like PC2 if you are trying to go fast , which is quite a different way to how you approach other Sims. It really likes you to get on the gas way earlier than other Sims and rotate the car from gas more than other Sims , where you generally rotate the car fairly equally between steering gas brake and the wight transfer of the car.
8:15 yes it is, Id 1000% buy and play to death AMS2 if it was on console, not only to support Reiza, cus Im brazilian, but also, Im a sucker for Prototypes and GT's, there aint better race cars than those
This bloke does go on a bit about his expert opinion over what makes a good racing game/sim and he seriously has no idea at all. He's been saying the same stuff about AMS2 for years and years and does he realise nobody really cares? I am going to have to block him because I cant stand watching his videos anymore, same old stuff all the time.
As always I 99% agree with GM, but... I do believe we MUST dissect physics starting from 2024 as sims are getting so close in quality, for example: AC and RF2 seems to be on par overall physics wise, BUT... I now clearly notice that particularly tyre model is much much more advanced on RF2 with natural feel of scrubbing, skipping, bouncing, traction gain and regain very viceral and dynamic, AC feels more digital and synthetic. AMS2 seems to be struggling with inertia, weight transfer related physics even though tyre physics are also more advanced than AC and a bit worse than RF2.
Yeah the subject would be interesting to compare on all the top sims, I'm a big AC fanboy but I have been enjoying RF2 driving physics more of late. I didn't realize how much the curb issues affected driving in AC until I came back from massive hours in RF2
You can lock cam to car but then that makes everything move which makes me and lits of people motion sick. The issue is lock to horizon doesn't work in a way that makes sense , I have made a video on this. I have methodically gone through every camara setting. There is no fix unless Reza add different camara controls or change how the roll and pitch correction work.
Links get auto filtered due to bots , I timed out someone on a live stream because it was funny and also you can't fix physics with FFB. I'll try some custom FFB files again though to make everyone happy.
The failure of AMS 2 is the project cars 2 engine. AMS 2 is just adding foliage to the PC2 tracks they copied and dropped into AMS2 while reskining old cars from PC2 as new cars
Everything on TH-cam is GAME CHANGER its one of the stupidest things people put in thumbnails for clicks its so bad its almost worse than watching BBC parliament without having a brick to smash against your forehead.
Its not "garbadge" has best AI of all the sims (aside from maybe iracing) and does run well and look nice in VR , just not as realistic to drive as other sims in many ways.@@xXxBo5sANaCxXx
@@xXxBo5sANaCxXx Actually as games, I'd say most SIMS are garbage games. Without the Modding community AC would be terrible. iRacing charges way too much for what's on offer, if it was any other game ACC would be a DLC. SIMs are hardly ever complete games I'd say AMS 2 is the most complete out of them all. If it's terrible then so are the rest.
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Don't trust the AC shill. He's just a toxic 'influencer' who clearly hates Reiza. He is part of a cabal who want to bring downfall to the best sim in all of racing. All he had to do was change his camera settings and the physics would be fixed but he never tries it FOR SOME REASON. Its time to say enough is enough.
camera settings cant change physics, thats like saying changing you glasses makes gravity less.
Did you even watch the video? He was actually positive about AMS2 because they improved it so much. It still has a long way to go with the tyre physics as the slip angles are just ridiculously big compared to reality, you can see this no matter what FOV or camera angle you use!
Tabs was making a funny @@f1gridlock
As soon as you said change the camera settings, I knew this was a good troll joke. lol
Tabs was joking , its bassed on comments I have had in the past with people just coming out with totally random things any time I say something critical about their specific sim of choice. @@xzanman
3:38 that yellow mercedes is a real bro for getting revenge for you.
I have to say, Le Mans on AMS2 is bloody awesome. I'm loving it. Putting all debates to one side, I had so much fun in the Mclren just lapping until the sun went down - 25% time acceleration, cloudy weather, mixed grid. I really think they did a great job, so glad it's in AMS2 as I race offline. I'm a happy sim freakazoid.
The mixed grill was pretty good as well.
AMS2 does seem to respond to trail braking for me personally. However its not in the same way that AC1 or AMS1 does so I really had to adjust my style unfortunately. Since it runs and looks so great in VR and has the content I'm after, I do still use it often. Hoping they continue to improve the physics!
You can still trail brake obviously , but as I said in the video its really not like the load is going to the front its like you are just removing grip from the rear / as if the car is actually just a single wheel rather than 4 wheels. The cars rotate much better on power in AMS2 regardless of car setup so you really just want to get on power ASAP rather than at a more natural mid point / the point in a corner you would in other simulators.
You just have to drive ams2 in a super specific way that's basically the same way you had to drive project cars 2 ( though slightly toned down)
@@GamerMuscleVideos Yeah, You give very good desciption of car moving in AMS2. And there feels like pivot in the point near rear axle. In Dirt Rally 2 is this in center of a car.
@@Therearethings8148Dirt Rally 2 doesn't have a central pivot point, what are you talking about?
@@BrandonRauser I don't think dirt rally 1-2 or Wrc have a central pivot but lots of people feel it does probably due to how the cars generally respond to input and how grip returns.
With AMS2 , RBR and other off road stuff the cars tend to keep sliding sideways longer / the whole car tends to slide out more than just rear or front which I think then feels more natural.
There can be lots of reasons why people feel a car is rotating from a specific location some maybe real some.might just be perception.
But yah Im not sure where the dirt 2 rotating from centre thing started from 🤣 and then how true it is or if it's even right or wrong.
@@GamerMuscleVideos The "removing grip from the rear" thing is definitely how it feels for me in most AMS2 cars. Interestingly, the Mercedes GT4 and the new BMW M4 GT3 both feel a lot less like that, and they're much more believable for it IMO. I don't know why those cars feel like you can drive them with the front end more, but it's so nice
This sim is really amazing and the devs NEVER stopped working to improve the game!
FANTASTIC!
You were very precise in your description of the game's behavior: I have a t300 and little time, so I don't practice enough to drive at the limit of each car. For a relaxed and hassle-free race, there's no better game.
is no one gonna talk about what happened at 2:02 and 3:47 ? ☠
Cars be flying!
I demand a refund for my present time, past time and, future time I am, i have, and i will spend on this channel.
3:38 murder!
Every racing sim out there has problems. There isn't a perfect racing sim available on any platform. Maybe someday.
They all have problems but some have more problems than other and some specific problems are more of an issue than others - Nothing is ever perfect but that does not stop one from being able to quantifiably still say that X is better or worse than Y in specific ways.
saying "every sim out there has problems " is basically saying " Please don't compare or lets just say everything is the same so nobody points out what is actually broken about my sim of choice"
Its the same as saying "all Politian's and political parties are the same" and so I'm not going to vote ... its like yah the parties you can vote for suck and don't represent what you want and are largely full of BS but even in the most broken democracies with limited choice one political party will on balance be better or worse than another for specific things or be more or less likely to represent what a person wants or what is objectively better or worse for a country.
Well said. Always enjoy your videos.@@GamerMuscleVideos
The one thing that kills AC and RF2 for me is the god awful ai. AMS2 and ACC, in that order, are the only sims where I feel the ai is actually racing me and not just racing a line and driving through me. I believe the physics in ASM2 and then including the ai and all round solid content gives it the best sim for off-line racing bar none. An important part of the update is the new championship modes. These guys are killing it in my opinion.
Yep only iracing and AMS2 have good ai F1 2023 is kinda ok AI , Race room AI works ok but is boring , RF2 AI is all over the place from track to track and AC AI tends to get stuck or so weard stuff at random.depending on car and track.
3:40 great move
It funny that you say I wouldn't recommend it for training purposes... As a former owner driver of a formula Ford I would say AMS2 is as close to feeling like a real race car (formula trainer) than anything else Ive ever driven.
I've also driven a Porsche cup car and again AmS2 is pretty close.
ACC is the only thing that's somewhat been close before now. AC on the other hand to me has never felt like fluid
Funny how vast majority of people I know that drive to a high level own race cars or use a simulator to train with go towards AC
@@GamerMuscleVideos I guess it comes down to a feel thing. Who ever is setting up the cars at the AmS2 shop clearly likes them skiddy. I've found it's easy to tune out though as set up changes make sense. AMS 1 didn't, RF2 for mine didn't but I know many people like it. AC some cars do others are counter intuitive but that's the modding community.
But all is gravy. Discussion/critique and analysis are all good things and all lead to improvments for us all to enjoy
@@GamerMuscleVideos Habits are sometimes hard to change.
As a VR only user, AC1 is great as long as you don't go near a curb, ACC is great but runs like blurry shit on VR, Iracing is great but bloody expensive, so I thoroughly enjoy driving on AMS2 in VR.
I don't quite like how the GT3s feel in it, but I'm a bit tired of GT3s anyway :)
Which slick-shod race cars have you driven at the limit in real life to be able to assess whether AMS 2 vs other sims is more realistic?
Yah no way to know if a car is handling generally realistic or not or if a physics engine is doing something super weird unless you have driven that specific car / plane / done the simulated thing in real life. No way one could notice or tell at all.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Those are your words, not mine. But since you have zero experience, you might want to use less definitive language when describing what is realistic or even plausible. Just try not to speak with such total confidence and authority. Your sense of humour and opinions comparing sims are great...it's only when you tread over into proclaimed subject matter expert that things go off the rails.
@@marccollins1445 what I'm saying is not wrong though , and I'm talking about super high level obvious aspects of physics.
The only reason it might sound contentious is from fanboys arguing.
I talk to plenty of real world race drivers and know people that own race cars , they say the same things as me.
It's really obvouse in what ways AMS2 is massively off , just as it's really obvouse that take on helicopters are massively off from DCS helicopters.
So sure if I was wrong it would be an issue but I'm not...
I don't have to be senna to tell you that mario kart is less realistic than gran turismo.
It's funny how when an e-sports driver says exactly what I have said all the fanboys agree with them... Because they listen to the authority not the actual points being made.
I can't help people that lack critical thinking ability.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Yes, many e-sports experts have about the same amount of real-world experience as you do, which is why their commentary is also meaningless in terms of realism. They can give good advice about how best to exploit or maximize performance on a piece of software, but not how it relates to reality. I am sure you are familiar with Josef Newgarden's controversial comments about iRacing. He could have been doing an AMS 2 advert... th-cam.com/video/UoX9M2yuNTA/w-d-xo.html
Think about those comments versus yours. As I said, it is only the authoritative presentation I am rejecting. You can have whatever opinions you want, especially about what would make the game fun or better. But sorry, your judgements about its realism, especially versus other software, are close to meaningless. Just express them as opinions or impressions instead of facts and all will be well in the credibility department.
And yes, I have driven several different classes of race cars and karts in real life--enough experience to know not to make such strong pronouncements.
The LMDh cars are absolutely amazing and the new graphics updates are quite impressive. I know AMS2 is far from perfect but each update does get better and better and the last few have been quite amazing. I had many hours on project cars 2 so I've always viewed AMS2 as the real Project Cars 3. If they would make the drafting physics more like Project Cars 2 on the ovals I know a lot of people that would play AMS2 religously. Its so close but just not quite there yet.
I kind of understand the fundamentals of your critic towards car behavior, but from my point of view it varys greatly between cars and in general is not that severe. I do have to trailbrake, if I want to be fast ams2 and acceleration out of the corner is rotation rather than drifting for me. I dirve mainly rf2 and ams2 and I like the rf2 physics more, but the gap has been closing reasently. I don't even touch ac1 anymore.
You still trail brake but you get on gas way sooner in ams2 than most other Sims as gas rotates rear in just about all situations more effectively than anything else. Most other Sims if you went into corners like one does in AMS2 gas would cause understeer or the rear to be uncatchable ams2 you can drive on gas like a mad person with car rotating as if the wheels are irrelevant.
I still wonder if there is some weard diff issue with AMS2 , cars handle as if they have really locked dif in general , but combined with some of the most forgiving tires in all of simracing.
So u are saying that in ams2 its Hard to have unwanted understeer by careless throtle use in rwd cars. I have tu test that in purpose cause I dont change my throttle use so much between sims. But I tiried all ready in rf2 with bmw m2, in that car its almost impossible to have understeer when u accelerate.
Have to say tougth I don´t drive gt3 car at all. So I can´t anytihing about them. I would say that the vintage porsche has plenty of understeer under acceleration, if u drive it like normal car and it turns allmost only by sliding, but that feels natural for me as I learned to dirve rwd car with locked diff in ice and snow 😀. One thing I would say that ams2 has low friction at low speeds
I won't be shocked if AMS 2 becomes one of the best sims in the comming years, yes i know that physics and ffb are not amazing at the moment but Reiza Studios are really trying to make this sim work and it's getting better and better. I really hope that they can make a proper sim from AMS 2 in coming years.
I recently bought AMS2 and I love it. Been sim racing for only 4 months. 😅
Stop whilst you can
You’ll soon realise that it’s crap!!
@@chrisparry4461 Funny!
@@chrisparry4461cry
I want to see a Rally sim on this engine. That slidey nature would just be perfect. The new WRC game makes my system die, and DR2 is meh. After playing AMS2, I'm convinced this game engine is the answer. Honestly I wish the post-gmotor base was used in more titles in general. I miss large grid full fledged events like this.
Agree
Codemasters owns Slightly Mad Studios as of 2019, so they could have easily used the Madness Engine for WRC instead of UE4 or Ego, and have people on staff who know the ins and outs to help with the transition to this other technology base. When they acquired them, I thought it was a real possibility, and there were some 20km routes in PCARS so we know it could handle stages on the length scale of Pikes Peak Full for DR. I still think it would have been so much better than dealing with all the technical issues UE4 has created for them. Issues they're still trying to fix and failing at. Still would love to see a rally game in this engine as well. WRC is an endless bummer of technology getting in the way of enjoyment, on both the visual and performance side of things.
That SEND from theyellow AMG tho 😂😂 , i thought they are AI 😅 3:37
Hmm about the Trail Braking. I mean you do drive very shifty bud like you're driving with a controller and not a wheel. Maybe you should drive more smooth with intention and use minor adjustments and smooth wheel transitions and movements instead of jerking around like in the video.
While I respect your opinion, been on a real track or two and have to say AMS2 has it good, even though I'm also an AC, ACC, and iRacing fanboi. Those have their better moments too.
Point is been trailbraking for years in games and in the real stuff and can say you can do it here too, so don't know what that's all about.
I didn't say you can't trail brake ,
I said you do t trail brake in AMS2 like you do in many of the other sims.
The way you have to drive in AMS2 is super wonky some cars better than others but it's still got the core issues PC2 has.
Just a overly sloppy sim like driving on warn out cut slicks or weard road tires rather than slick tires.
It's like the physics are operating in slow motion , which I think is why some people like it because you can have the reaction times of a sloth and precision of a gibbon and feel like senna through corners.
@@GamerMuscleVideos hmm I guess it's all about personal perception and preference. Been around in Sim Racing since GTR2, plenty of time on and off in iRacing, Assetto Corsa and others, plenty of real track time, been in and built professional racing simulators for race car drivers, taken coaching from these drivers and heard their opinions of "sims", and while they have their own different nuances, I wouldn't go as far as the extremes you mention here. Think that's a bit overstated. While I do miss the tire model in AC and ACC, it's been progressively improved than before and I think what you are saying here is more on par with what it was than what it is.
Also I trail brake the same across all the sims, yeah you get a little different reference, but not that much off. Not that I'm an expert on this but based on your video and wheel position and rotations, I think your steering transitions like depicted put you skating on the edge of grip.
I challenge you GM, do an Interlagos time trial World record attempt with a GTE car and show me you can do a world record by drifting the car. Lets see how you get the car through the slow corners fast if you don't trail brake.
I didn't say you can't trail brake , you can trail brake in any racing game with analog input.
The point is how the car responds to trail braking and to what degree and what point you go from trail braking to power , also how prone the rear is to stepping out when braking at the different speeds and how it does that.
And then what really matters is how grip comes and goes from tires and in what way.
Needless to say AMS2 drives in a very different way to AC,AMS1,RF2.
absolute bull mate, you realise you can tweak brake bias to affect trail braking? also these cars that feel slidey just need a tweak to rear suspension 😂
@@danlewiswelshmsport9535 oh really I had no idea that you could adjust brake bais in cars thanks for the tip
Luckily I already had a cup of tea when I saw you'd uploaded this :) (tbf, the chances of that were quite high).
I agree with your car rotation point I often feel that rotation is what is holding me back from the next level of my times. Also I demand a refund of my time because the rest or the video I just had to sit through for some reason. SIGH.
You can't know or say this because you are not a real world driver
Lmdh are fantastic. The redicilous sliding in some cars makes me want to scream my head off.
This game CHANGE so many times! but I like it in my own way
NIce review and happy new year
I’ve noticed ACC doesn’t get mentioned much nowadays when doing comparisons 😮
We don't talk about ACC on this channel.
@@GamerMuscleVideos I guess you not a fan? 🫣
Raceroom gets even less, despite having the widest range of cars/tracks, a new tyre model which has changed the handling for the better, and a good offline experience. It's just a shame that the multiplayer is broken and most of the servers are empty, even at peak times.
Wait... m i the only one whos gonna comment on the yellow Merc that took black m4 to another dimension?
3:38 😱
2:03 A BMW flew across the room and Gamer Muscle continues to talk as if nothing happened. Flying cars don't bother him!
If only they increased the car grid size. 32 is still too small, especially for an endurance pack.
I can see them doing this, especially since they just added a graphics option for changing the maximum amount of cars that render.
The madness engine doesn't allow bigger grid size due to a bug that Reiza can't solve right now
@@stefanschuchardt5734 You used to be able to mod bigger grid sizes, like 60+, into AMS2 with some memory and file editing. Definitely wasn't perfect, but it could be done and it worked pretty well for a janky hack. I really wonder what issue they're having that prevents it from being properly implemented because it would be a massive feature to have
Refund demanded! Yeah i like that assessment. "Removing grip from the rear" rather than shifting weight to the front. But yes, the physics have MUCH improved in this game over time, from a point i wouldn't even play it, to now where it really feels like 90+ % there. After testing the AI, they are quite good as well. Will probably be my game to recommend to new players who might want to get into racing because it now feels quite good, is easy to set up, runs well, and works decent with gamepad or whatever other hardware they want to use.
What was that merc take out 😂 ai? 3:30
03:39 actual 'lift off' oversteer...
To think that a BMW got it implemented before the 911 did
🤣
Nasa and Formula Drift look on in envy
Great sim and easy with friends that are not really in to simracing. They can play with the gamepad and AI in multiplayer is always a win in my book. AC was always the worst in that (no clue how it is now)
Yah the Ai with real people multiplayer is a really good feature for PC2 and AMS2 its strange they don't market it more.
2:03 sheesh, think that might be race ending, not sure tho 😅
Yeah ac is more realistic but when you have such details on the wheel and your motion platform, God ams2 is way over ac acc and everything else. Physics I can live with. The immersion is in a different league.
Surely cars not really driving like cars is rather immersion braking ? AC with pure and in a proper race with people on LFM in VR or a league race also looks amazing , then you have the weird cam issue in AMS2. It is nice how you can quickly set things up in ams2 and AI racing is great
Everytime I watch you play this I keep telling myself I need to buy it. It would be a great to mix it up with the Normal AC.
Imagine the very best car you drove in PC2, now imagine it improved to be even better than it was as simply the best handling car in PC2, and now imagine that's the standard for all the cars in the game, and imagine the AI drove better than a lot of public lobbies. That's kind of how I see AMS2.
@@xxticxxtocxx7909 Very interesting! I enjoy PC2 so you have me even more intrigued.
Happy new year! Thinking of getting into sim racing I’m thinking between the g290 for Xbox layout or t128p wheel. I only play driving games one or two times a month but I still find controller boring so I think those two would fit me just fine? Also don’t have a dedicated sim chair and rig.
I deep mind a reefer fund! No .. wait ..
I wish AMS2 had the iRacing online system
Well, I would ask for a refund for my time, but I don't know what that amount would be.
I just enjoyed watching those other 2 guys battling it out and trying to stay on the track while you were talking all the time.
I did see at the beginning of the race 2 incidents where a car would go flying up into the air.
Not too sure what that was all about.
I have AMS 2 but have not put allot of time behind the wheel. So far the game has been good for me. Also just got an update for AMS 2. So they continue to work on the game.
Thanks for the video and take care.
Hearing this guy talking about car physics is like asking a plumber for medical advice. He has literally no idea what he's talking about.
Ah yes the compelling counterpoint of "you don't know what you are talking about" wow you really added to the conversation !
Funny enough I know people that own and drive race cars and talk to lots of people about sims and sim physics , it's weird that lots of them agree with me given that " I have no idea what I'm talking about"
God forbid someone have a lose idea what slick tires behave like from being in a few race cars , watching videos and also talking to actual race drivers.. nope no way they could rightfully come to the conclusion that AMS2 has huge controllable slip and some rather weard behavior.
I'd imagine all the people in the comments under this video that agree and have added to what I have said are wrong as well.
I suppose other people that have made videos talking about how the slip in AMS2 is a quite different from other sims are also totally wrong.
All idiots that have no idea !
I bought AMS2 yesterday at the Steam sale. It really feels like pCARS2. Also fish have legs. But it's very drivable once you get custom ffb and a custom ffb profile for your wheel.
You don't need custom profiles anymore since the 1.5 update honestly default and default plus are bloody amazing on the custom ones just ruin it and make it feel spongy and terrible
@@Nicklz5555 Interesting. I will try it out.
@@anonharingenamn nice 😎 enjoy mate . I have asetek la prima so obv everyone's milage may vary but I can't see it making that much difference between different dd wheels of its power . You get so much feedback with default+ 😎
I have a Simucube and honestly I'm not having great luck so far.@@Nicklz5555
That fish needs to refund me for my time 😒
And thanks for finding a use for my copy of AMS2, as my Steamdeck driving game.
Tnx for not asking for subscribers. I am one for a while now but not just because of that. That is nice touch though.
for ppl who enjoy ranked online racing nothing changed....but its fun for a couple of minutes.
wtf that takedown at 3:40
Solid Appraisal. But... WTF is going on at 3:40 ?!
Was that whole video just a subtle non-humble brag? First, he spends 5 minutes explaining in detail how he can pinpoint what is exactly problematic with the game, then tells viewers "Dont worry you would probably be fine, only the top tier sim racers would notice it anyway."
This whole channel is a humble brag
@@GamerMuscleVideos fair enough
Happy fish do have legs day🐠
how to get a linear input using mouse steering (FreePie)? does using steering wheel also not linear ? its like the game have a permanent sensitivity center reduction...
3:38 LOL
When I race in AMS2 I always go wow that was fun but.... I don't feel connected to the ground. In RaceRoom and AC I genuinely feel like after I 'master' a track, I could hop into a real car and hotlap. The new RaceRoom update is awesome, with reshade the graphics are pretty good. RaceRoom physics are on point but I hope they upgrade the engine to stay up to date, and I hope the online comes back afterwards. AC2 if done right, 'cough not ACC', I hope will be great.
Unfortunately Raceroom still using only core of CPU :(
@@Monjardim14 Yeah but it performs well with my older CPU. I7 11700f. They do need to update!
@@Username_Invalid It's my favorite simulator but the engine update was never promised by the studio. :( Still using DX9
@@Monjardim14 Still runs well though. I do wish for that upgrade!
Well too bad then cause ac2 is gonna build on acc physics and ffb so I don't think you will enjoy it
Ok so i did the whole "camera fix" to really reduce the floaty disconnect feel and also i've started tweaking car setups as defaults are often way too stiff for some tracks. Your thoughts on this please plus a refund for my time.
I've really enjoyed AMS 2 lately, so I will definitely pick up the new DLC. That said, I demand a refund for my time knitting that corduroy cardigan for your aunt's uncle during the most recent solstice, James!
Fish do have legs and I really like ACC
OFF TO THE GULAG YOU GO
What's the best game for touring cars as I wish there were loads in this game.
I demand legs for my fish!
For VR Ams2 is the best. There is no any competitor for it.
I might try ams2 again. Last time I checked it was fun but physics were lacking. Its better than forza but I don't feel like calling ams2 a sim. Im not sure if they can fix physics without redoing the game engine.. maybe ams2 is meant to be a fun, sightly more 'serious' game
I demand a refund for my time, but I’m excited to see what Reiza can do with the game in 2024
Do you mean a good experience on gamepad/controller using the standard Reiza controller settings, or do you have any specific controller settings which are good?
I had to fiddle with it a bit on the steam deck , I don't think its something riza have focused on if i get time ill make a profile and share it.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Thanks for the answer. That would be great. I am also struggling to find a comfortable controller setting. Currently trying to run all the sensitivities on 50, speed sensitivity on 50 and controller dampening on 17. Deadzones are all at 0. I don’t know if that feels authentic or if it is too sensitive.
The counter steer assist setting is really good to leave on and ends up being more realsitic than with it off , then i think its about getting sensitivity right ill have a fiddle again , i was mostly trying to use gyro to control mouse @@Yeah841
I demand a refund for my time
I also will surely regret following GMs advice to give a full day night cycle LeMans VR race a go. The next best thing to do if the Nordschleife is closed and you cannot burn your mony over there. Thanks GM for giving me a reason to further waste my time and ressources, well done
Side note: the F1 cars in AMS2 are the only F1 cars I like in any sim, exactly because they are unrealistic and ridiculously slidy. Historic cars without downforce are still not too good but getting better.
i demand simagic discount code 😂
“Not enough GT3 cars in simracing” Really? 😅 There are far too many GT3 cars imo. Let’s have more classic legends 💪
He was being clearly sarcastic
I'm never sarcastic and am deeply offended by this comment @@kronos711
@@GamerMuscleVideos Very sorry british man. Accept beans and toast as my apology 🙏
Woosh
I’m imagining it saying on the back of the box “Great on a gamepad - Gamer Muscle”. I demand a refund for my time!
I demand a refund of my time, because I already watched all of this live!
This game feels like it was designed specifically for use on fanatec hardware. It just feels so insanely good. And I've heard it doesn't feel as good on other gear.
Feels the same on the Moza R12 as CSLDD and DD1 and Simucube 2 so no its not "designed specifically for use on fanatec hardware , your comment makes no sense.
@@GamerMuscleVideos agreed, running it on a Moza R5 with my AC1 settings and it actually feels pretty good. If the forces are a bit week I just boost the car's FFB in game
Any/All DLC changes the game, otherwise what would be the point? 🤔
I want to like it because it looks great, but all this physics stuff is a massive distraction. Even as a beginner, i don't want the sim to be teaching me habits that won't work anywhere else. So rFactor2 it is. I demand a refund for my time.
The Year Has Changed So Has The Game ! - Nice DLC great track model fun to race with AI in VR , Handling still way off from AMS1,AC,RF2
2024 is GAME CHANGING ! Looking forward to the new toaster collection, especially with their line of different timers !
Where did I put my screwdriver already ? ... And I demand a refund for my time.
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good day! can you say - what kind of motion simulator is better? faster and accurate: sfx on linear actuators or gear motors???
@@TOBI-sr4mojust buy the rs mega + thank you me later :)
I demand a refund for MY time sir! AMS2 is GREAT for everyone to play as long as your ok with the physics and the lack of trail braking. If you go into it looking to relax and have fun racing competent AI it's a fabulous game
I'd "demand a refund for my time". But unfortunately. not only am I an AC Fanboy - but a GamerMuscle Fanboy as well (Shhhhhh, please don't tell anyone ; )))
Oh, this is a game changer! Again! I hate this thing.
6 months on and I still demand a refund
i agree
I demand a refund for my time. Totally agree about the physics though. You still can drive with zero manners compared to other titles, basically you just hulk it around the corner like a rock ape and plaster the throttle on the way out. I know next update I'll fall for every TH-camrs claim of it being "game changing", I'll do the same as i do each time, jump on, race and then think - "hmmm that was nice", then go back to AC/AMS1 for however many months till the next "game changer" comes out. The core DNA just can't be cracked it seems.
I feel like I've been Rickrolled.
I demand a refund for my time. My quality of life depreciated measurably over the course of this video. Keep up the good work.
I demand a refund for my time!
i didn’t like how this channel is changing. here is AC church, all i want to hear is AC IS THE BEST !!
lol anyone would think you were a real racing driver with the confidence you speak about the nuances of sims and driving.
Why would it even mater ? - You don't have to be a bloody race driver or pilot to know how planes and cars generally move around or when they are massively off from reality , we are not talking about subtle things and details here.
@@GamerMuscleVideos the point is are any of them close to reality, not really they are all off in some way as they are sims and not reality. It’s all subjective and opinion. Not fact or truth. I suppose the hours we put into these games makes us think we are experts when in truth we are no where near that. We are just old men playing games with expensive equipment. And I am talking about myself as much as I am about you sir. Nice video though.
@@GamerMuscleVideos I don't disagree with you on the overall physics of the various games, but to know what a real GT3 car physics are at the limit, one would have to drive a real Gt3 car at the limit.
There are RL GT3 drivers who think Iracing has the most realistic breaking action.
There are RL GT3 drivers who think ACC is the one (which I think I crazy but what do I know?)
To me AC just feels the most correct. There is a distinct difference between the weight transfer in AC and AMS2.
But I find RF2 to be just as slide happy as AMS2 but without the polish.
Who the hell knows? I guess the goal is to make enough money to buy an in game car in RL and track it on an in game track and compare.
Hopefully AC2 will be more Ac and less ACC.
phish do have legs now give me my money back
Use the Fanatec affiliate links, if you want to support the guy who has been s-ing on AMS2 for a long time. GM is deleting my comments. *What, you don't like how I tell how you really are? I thought you said you didn't care about the "fanboys"!? I guess you care now!
Oh and "You don't really trail brake in AMS2" WHAT??? I trail brake all the time. That helps me rotate the car. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Also, why are you showing and complaining about GT3 cars, when the stars of the update are clearly the LMDh cars!?
I don't delete comments unless they are attacking people , auto moderation will remove spam , links or rude comments so maybe you need to work on how you communicate.
Try trail braking in AC,AMS1, iRacing , RF2 and pay attention to how the cars roll into the corners more.
Not sure what's going on with AMS2 always seemed to me like it has an issue simulating differentials and wight transfer or it's just some random thing from the tires.
I don't know what causes it but you have to approach AMS2 like PC2 if you are trying to go fast , which is quite a different way to how you approach other Sims.
It really likes you to get on the gas way earlier than other Sims and rotate the car from gas more than other Sims , where you generally rotate the car fairly equally between steering gas brake and the wight transfer of the car.
8:15 yes it is, Id 1000% buy and play to death AMS2 if it was on console, not only to support Reiza, cus Im brazilian, but also, Im a sucker for Prototypes and GT's, there aint better race cars than those
I demand a refund for my tea time!
This bloke does go on a bit about his expert opinion over what makes a good racing game/sim and he seriously has no idea at all. He's been saying the same stuff about AMS2 for years and years and does he realise nobody really cares? I am going to have to block him because I cant stand watching his videos anymore, same old stuff all the time.
As always I 99% agree with GM, but... I do believe we MUST dissect physics starting from 2024 as sims are getting so close in quality, for example: AC and RF2 seems to be on par overall physics wise, BUT... I now clearly notice that particularly tyre model is much much more advanced on RF2 with natural feel of scrubbing, skipping, bouncing, traction gain and regain very viceral and dynamic, AC feels more digital and synthetic. AMS2 seems to be struggling with inertia, weight transfer related physics even though tyre physics are also more advanced than AC and a bit worse than RF2.
Yeah the subject would be interesting to compare on all the top sims, I'm a big AC fanboy but I have been enjoying RF2 driving physics more of late. I didn't realize how much the curb issues affected driving in AC until I came back from massive hours in RF2
Muscle, i found out how to get rid of the car moving around you, ill mention it when i see the next stream
You can lock cam to car but then that makes everything move which makes me and lits of people motion sick.
The issue is lock to horizon doesn't work in a way that makes sense , I have made a video on this.
I have methodically gone through every camara setting.
There is no fix unless Reza add different camara controls or change how the roll and pitch correction work.
Is it against channel rules suggesting and posting links to custom ffb files? Best regards.
Yes, you can get banned from TH-cam. They take that very seriously on this channel.
😂😂😂
I posted 1 link and it was deleted 🤷🏻♂️
Links get auto filtered due to bots , I timed out someone on a live stream because it was funny and also you can't fix physics with FFB.
I'll try some custom FFB files again though to make everyone happy.
The failure of AMS 2 is the project cars 2 engine. AMS 2 is just adding foliage to the PC2 tracks they copied and dropped into AMS2 while reskining old cars from PC2 as new cars
I love the new content! But "Game changing"? Again? I demand refund for my time!
Over 9 minutes of my life I will never regain. Even tea will not fix this new low.
I demand a refund for my time! 😂 (not really)
How come every AMS2 update is declared as a 'game changer'?
Is the core game reall ythat bad that every update greatly improves it?
Everything on TH-cam is GAME CHANGER its one of the stupidest things people put in thumbnails for clicks its so bad its almost worse than watching BBC parliament without having a brick to smash against your forehead.
its just a clickbait, game is still garbage compared to other sims
Its not "garbadge" has best AI of all the sims (aside from maybe iracing) and does run well and look nice in VR , just not as realistic to drive as other sims in many ways.@@xXxBo5sANaCxXx
@@xXxBo5sANaCxXx Actually as games, I'd say most SIMS are garbage games. Without the Modding community AC would be terrible. iRacing charges way too much for what's on offer, if it was any other game ACC would be a DLC. SIMs are hardly ever complete games I'd say AMS 2 is the most complete out of them all. If it's terrible then so are the rest.
no… no it’s not
I demand a refund for my time! Or, a cup of tea. Whichever is easier. Thanking you, GM.
This video is way too positive.
Fortunately the AI is realistic because when I see the behavior of certain idiots in this video it doesn't make me want to play multiplayer!