Hi! EUCO repair tech here. The first thing I would do is check the fuse with a multimeter in continuity mode. I've already encountered a V8F that had this issue (twice actually, the fuse kept blowing). This may be due to an early-batch hardware fault that IM has identified and fixed. What I did is simply installed a 40-amp fuse instead of the stock 30-amp one, and this solved the issue. The V10/F uses a 40 amp fuse, and the V8F is designed to draw more power than the V8, so really a 40 amp fuse should be installed stock. The fuse is soldered however, so it's a bit of a pain to replace, but this is likely the issue.
@@danielerdofi9164 Good question. The V10 already uses a 40 amp fuse, and has the same control electronics as the V8F, just different firmware. Plus, the BMS has its own much higher current limit that will trip if too much power is drawn continuously, but this is very rare. So to answer your question, this is a fairly safe operation. Worst case, is a MOSFET will blow instead of the fuse (this used to happen a lot in Gotway wheels, which were unfused) and a new control board would be required, but this is also extremely unlikely under normal riding conditions.
@@nicholasmccutcheon1058 Hi, I have a problem with a kingsong 18L. The left battery Pack is not giving power to the motor even though it’s charged. Do you think the battery is not working or it has something to do with the motherboard?
I think that you should consider adding one more test to your reviews - getting on e.g. metro during rush hours with the EUC. The small and lightweight wheels are best for mixed commuting and their buyers don't care so much about e.g. hill climbing capabilities.
finally, after almost a year of reflection, I bought my first EUC. It fell on inmotion V5F. I have a son who is 10 years old so we both use and love EUC. I weigh 92kg and I have no problems even on off road 😅.
Well, when you discharge to 0% and ride at the limit on a wheel not meant for insane performance... that’s how you break things. Racked up 2500 miles of daily commuting on my INMOTION v8 and had zero issues.
I have to disagree. Mine did the same thing yesterday and it had 70% left. I bought it 1 month ago ... Needless to say that I crashed. Nothing bad, fortunately. Now I wonder whether I'll be able to trust a V8F again ...
My V8 also was able to handle 2500+ miles, but my V8S had this happen the first day second ride going out my front door. Im not sure if it’s a fuse but it sounds like it. Im super scared now
The selling point of this wheel for me was the weight. I wanted an EUC that could be taken on shuttles, cars, metro, etc without excessive difficulty. It's definitely a great starter wheel because it serves as a good backup wheel or one to loan to your friend to teach. The side lighting is lit (pun intended), especially for night riding and compensates for the negligible back light. Looking forward to the full review!
It's great that you test products in the same conditions. This will make your videos useful and up-to-date and relevant in the future for comparison. I'm pleasantly surprised at how good the V8F performed with you, I honestly didn't expect it to fight so well with the climb. It is very good that inmotion offers a significantly improved product for the same money, which is great for the customer. I started with V10F and grew out of it like you and bought a high end EUC. But I'm glad I have a v10f it's just practical and when I drive completely without protectors on the sidewalks a maximum of 10 km / h to buy goods or I go for something I always reach for it. Sometimes and for some purposes, the "big" EUCs are not entirely practical. And if I weighed less than 90kg, I would replace my V10F with a V8F because the weather resistance and quality of workmanship give me confidence in inmotion and a slightly smaller V8F would make my "small" ride even more practical. Of course, the price-performance ratio of GW and KS products is interesting, I just think that for a layman or a novice rider, thanks to the service and inmotion background, the guarantee of the official warranty service is the choice.👍🏻
I don't understand why you said it's hard to tell which way is front the V8 F only has one headlight that points forward, unlike the kingsong 18l has a headlight on either side that's hard to tell which way is forward. I had a V8 and I loved it I wrote it all over the place until one day I forgot the battery was low and I took off hard and it just shut off and threw me to the ground and put me out of work forever, but now I just bought the v8f and we'll see what happens hopefully they got the safeties in place so they don't just shut off
This happened to me on the V8F, I was going through some very loose dirt and got kinda stuck, the wheel tried real hard to get out and then shut off. I checked the controller and I had blown a fuse. Ewheels is great though so they just sent a replacement controller. Also I did a slow range test (that I didn't complete), I got around 25 miles before I had to stop because of time. I had around 30% battery left when I stopped. I was going on average 10mph and I weigh 120lbs (54kg).
Owning my V8F for just two weeks now I am very new to this. BUT I would have expected that somebody with your skills and experience doesn´t torture a wheel this way. The heavy tilt-back does have a reason! And I am NOT wondering that it was beeping for mercy on you until it died at the end. I guess it has a deep unloading. Poor V8F :.-(
Personally, I like flat pedals. And you can put a spacer to increase the angle. An unresponsive cut out. I get that from my V10F. To bring it back, first I plug in the charger and second I connect the app.
Where can I get more information about spacers to increase the angle, please? I too have a V8F and I love it very much, I would also like to try a different angle of the pedal if it is possible.
I killed mine almost the exact same way and it was a blown fuse. I wen't up a hill off road that was tough but didn't seem insane to me, then I hit some mud along the hill that cause the wheel to spin and so use more power for some time and it insta died. Seems like it does need a stronger fuse or something. edit: And do you last statement, have you never blown or fried a board in a gotway wheel or something like that? That would be the more expensive equivalent than changing a 1 euro fuse. But yeah the V8 wheels are pretty puny and blow too easily.
I thought your not meant to ride on full tilt back, isnt that the reason EUCs tilt all the way back is to stop you ridding it and potentially killing the battery voltage?
Push it to dead battery and then try pushing it harder didnt ya? Everyone that has a wheel knows better than to do this including you. Biased review in favor of gotway. I own 4 inmotions and a gotway. Gotway has some serious problems and you seem to fail at pointing them out.Have you opened up a gotway and looked at the wiring? Its a mess and plugs that have to be glued in. Maybe do some real reviews and stop misleading ppl. V8 headlight is to dim, v10 is to dim and theN you complain that the V11 is to bright. Get real.
Just a hint: Whenever you overpower a EUC of IM, KS or GW (like you did here): When the wheel remains powered ON after the overpower or shutoff, its was firmware protection jumping in to protect hardware. when its powered OFF after such incident, then its a hardware defect. (only BMS shutoff is resetable by charger, but its so low it never kicks in) And actually i have to say i dont now how such tests like those can be run on such small battery? 20s with just 2P ?! How should a battery, only capable of 2x10Amp=20Amps be able to sustain such crazy hill tests? Especially when the battery getting empty and then the cells even need to produce more amps to give you same power as on a high battery! so probably a overpowerFuse blows...or a part of the board. KS/GW 1600wh wheels are 60Amp capable, so sure they dont do such things and can climb hills better and all this torque(amps) related tests. And when we are on that point, just another hint: YES, a KS shouts at you „caution overpower“, when you are near the battery capabilities of 60Amps....for example leaning in on heavy sprint test accelerations or hefty hills. A GW does not...in fact it just ruins its batteries, as it doesnt have any such protections and draws amps that the battery isnt capable of and finally ruin battery chemistry. Nonetheless its not „more powerfull“....it is just not warning you ;-) Other than that, great video production, as always :-)
i got into unicycle by being sold on the z10 commercial 2 y ago, that ninebot sent me because i owned the ninebot segway mini ___ i got the kingsong 16s and knew before first ride that i was going to love it my best wheel now is the gotway nicola you guess the voltage ^ looking forward to the future
OK, This trouble happen to me this evening. I'm pretty sure that it doesn't overheat. battery level up to 95% I stop for a while try to turn on the light. but casually turn the euc off. than, it doesn't turn on any more. still surfing for solution.
I'm trying to order from Ewheel but nerve is holding me back. The v8 would be fine but the V8F is only a few picks more. Ive got to upgrade from my swagroller, need some speed.
Good evening sir, I'm from Brazil and I was wondering which one are the best v8f or kingsong 16s 840wh? I will go to work and the distance it's about 30km, I have 90 kilograms. Please help me because I am a beginner and we don't have gotway tesla v2 at all. I appreciate your time.👍👍👍
Ya that's in the manual on the last page. That's what the F is for. InMotion V8 Fail, version. It just fails at complete random. Too bad, really. You crazy trying to go up the hill climbs backwards. Man, between you and @EUCSidestreetReny I'm really getting inspired.
When he did this he was at 30% battery so he overpower the wheel this is a small wheel and it did pretty good on climbing the hills probably the wheel was not charge to the fullest. My point is that you can't attend to overpower at small wheel when your battery is almost dying on you, especially climbing those hills the way he did at 30%. This should be a commonsense experience to learn.
Informative review thanks, and the many comments on the failure leads to a question. If what burned is a fuse, by design on a maximum current: does it mean that the same can happen at higher speed, leading to a nasty crash? Or this common scenario can for sure only happen near zero speed due to high torque demands. This makes me concerned about safety of the wheel.
Goodness gracious. This has never happened to me, hope this never happens to me or anyone else, but these are machines after all. (By the way I saw a video which days don't ever interact with wanna be friends comment). By the way it's crazy how you so this backward thing. INTENSE
Wrong Way! Yeah, sure....the reason why? Cause GW doesnt protect anything and yes, so it martyrs your batteries :-) (see my own seperate post) Then also: Thats no 16inch....smaller wheel like mten can generate same torque as a bigger wheel with much less amp draw. Thats usually why they are so agile...the smaller the wheel the better the torque usage
@@pottacoola Don't forget a v5f has a smaller diameter tire so the wheel makes more revolutions. This gives more torque and is easier on the batteries. The smaller the wheels the easier it is to climb (all other specs equal). I have a small ninebot S2 and it's quite a climber even compared to the v8f.
Hi! EUCO repair tech here. The first thing I would do is check the fuse with a multimeter in continuity mode. I've already encountered a V8F that had this issue (twice actually, the fuse kept blowing). This may be due to an early-batch hardware fault that IM has identified and fixed. What I did is simply installed a 40-amp fuse instead of the stock 30-amp one, and this solved the issue. The V10/F uses a 40 amp fuse, and the V8F is designed to draw more power than the V8, so really a 40 amp fuse should be installed stock. The fuse is soldered however, so it's a bit of a pain to replace, but this is likely the issue.
Isn't it dangerous to put a 40 amp fuse instread of the 30? Couldn't it be dangerous for the battery or the BMS?
@@danielerdofi9164 Good question. The V10 already uses a 40 amp fuse, and has the same control electronics as the V8F, just different firmware. Plus, the BMS has its own much higher current limit that will trip if too much power is drawn continuously, but this is very rare. So to answer your question, this is a fairly safe operation. Worst case, is a MOSFET will blow instead of the fuse (this used to happen a lot in Gotway wheels, which were unfused) and a new control board would be required, but this is also extremely unlikely under normal riding conditions.
@@nicholasmccutcheon1058 Hi, I have a problem with a kingsong 18L. The left battery Pack is not giving power to the motor even though it’s charged. Do you think the battery is not working or it has something to do with the motherboard?
I think that you should consider adding one more test to your reviews - getting on e.g. metro during rush hours with the EUC. The small and lightweight wheels are best for mixed commuting and their buyers don't care so much about e.g. hill climbing capabilities.
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finally, after almost a year of reflection, I bought my first EUC. It fell on inmotion V5F. I have a son who is 10 years old so we both use and love EUC. I weigh 92kg and I have no problems even on off road 😅.
Has it been working fine?
Well, when you discharge to 0% and ride at the limit on a wheel not meant for insane performance... that’s how you break things. Racked up 2500 miles of daily commuting on my INMOTION v8 and had zero issues.
yeah...why is he surprised like he has no idea....
I have to disagree. Mine did the same thing yesterday and it had 70% left.
I bought it 1 month ago ...
Needless to say that I crashed. Nothing bad, fortunately.
Now I wonder whether I'll be able to trust a V8F again ...
My V8 also was able to handle 2500+ miles, but my V8S had this happen the first day second ride going out my front door. Im not sure if it’s a fuse but it sounds like it. Im
super scared now
The selling point of this wheel for me was the weight. I wanted an EUC that could be taken on shuttles, cars, metro, etc without excessive difficulty. It's definitely a great starter wheel because it serves as a good backup wheel or one to loan to your friend to teach. The side lighting is lit (pun intended), especially for night riding and compensates for the negligible back light. Looking forward to the full review!
It's great that you test products in the same conditions. This will make your videos useful and up-to-date and relevant in the future for comparison.
I'm pleasantly surprised at how good the V8F performed with you, I honestly didn't expect it to fight so well with the climb.
It is very good that inmotion offers a significantly improved product for the same money, which is great for the customer.
I started with V10F and grew out of it like you and bought a high end EUC. But I'm glad I have a v10f it's just practical and when I drive
completely without protectors on the sidewalks a maximum of 10 km / h to buy goods or I go for something I always reach for it.
Sometimes and for some purposes, the "big" EUCs are not entirely practical. And if I weighed less than 90kg, I would replace my V10F with a V8F because the weather resistance and quality of workmanship give me confidence in inmotion and a slightly smaller V8F would make my "small" ride even more practical.
Of course, the price-performance ratio of GW and KS products is interesting, I just think that for a layman or a novice rider, thanks to the service and inmotion background, the guarantee of the official warranty service is the choice.👍🏻
16K sub - congratulations, waiting for 20K now ;)
so close now
My concern is that it's not alerting you when it cant make the incline
I just bought this and it's my first wheel. I think this is a good choice for a noob.
Could you do a brief video on how to set the lights at different colors?
Just change the fuse (imho)! After all, when you will fix it, tell us what exactly the problem was!
I don't understand why you said it's hard to tell which way is front the V8 F only has one headlight that points forward, unlike the kingsong 18l has a headlight on either side that's hard to tell which way is forward. I had a V8 and I loved it I wrote it all over the place until one day I forgot the battery was low and I took off hard and it just shut off and threw me to the ground and put me out of work forever, but now I just bought the v8f and we'll see what happens hopefully they got the safeties in place so they don't just shut off
This happened to me on the V8F, I was going through some very loose dirt and got kinda stuck, the wheel tried real hard to get out and then shut off. I checked the controller and I had blown a fuse. Ewheels is great though so they just sent a replacement controller.
Also I did a slow range test (that I didn't complete), I got around 25 miles before I had to stop because of time. I had around 30% battery left when I stopped. I was going on average 10mph and I weigh 120lbs (54kg).
Owning my V8F for just two weeks now I am very new to this. BUT I would have expected that somebody with your skills and experience doesn´t torture a wheel this way. The heavy tilt-back does have a reason! And I am NOT wondering that it was beeping for mercy on you until it died at the end. I guess it has a deep unloading. Poor V8F :.-(
Agree especially when you already know that you don't have enough voltage, I mean who will dare to climb hills at 30%? the way he did😳
Is there a way to program the color of lights?
Personally, I like flat pedals. And you can put a spacer to increase the angle.
An unresponsive cut out. I get that from my V10F. To bring it back, first I plug in the charger and second I connect the app.
Where can I get more information about spacers to increase the angle, please? I too have a V8F and I love it very much, I would also like to try a different angle of the pedal if it is possible.
I just took an old credit card, sliced a half inch wide strip, and stuck it in with carpet tape. It raised the angle by a few degrees.
Do you know the size of the magnet in the rim, I mean at the motor. I need to buy a new magnet for this.
Over all 49 km, but you had 0% after 27 km? And you still had been riden 20 km more?? Why did you do that?
No no no total range of 29 km. After 27 km tiltback and 2 km more on tiltback
@@mr_wrongway Adam, what is your weight?
I killed mine almost the exact same way and it was a blown fuse. I wen't up a hill off road that was tough but didn't seem insane to me, then I hit some mud along the hill that cause the wheel to spin and so use more power for some time and it insta died. Seems like it does need a stronger fuse or something.
edit: And do you last statement, have you never blown or fried a board in a gotway wheel or something like that? That would be the more expensive equivalent than changing a 1 euro fuse. But yeah the V8 wheels are pretty puny and blow too easily.
I thought your not meant to ride on full tilt back, isnt that the reason EUCs tilt all the way back is to stop you ridding it and potentially killing the battery voltage?
Lol that's exactly what I said on my previous comment, got the same qustion🤔
My solo wheel or glide 3 it turns on and said repair and star trembling alot with a noise and I don't know what to do
Push it to dead battery and then try pushing it harder didnt ya? Everyone that has a wheel knows better than to do this including you. Biased review in favor of gotway. I own 4 inmotions and a gotway. Gotway has some serious problems and you seem to fail at pointing them out.Have you opened up a gotway and looked at the wiring? Its a mess and plugs that have to be glued in. Maybe do some real reviews and stop misleading ppl. V8 headlight is to dim, v10 is to dim and theN you complain that the V11 is to bright. Get real.
It's common for a reviewer to break a commuter, you all just can't help yourself 😂
Do you feel the Kingsong 16s is better? I’m heavier than 90kg.
Just a hint: Whenever you overpower a EUC of IM, KS or GW (like you did here):
When the wheel remains powered ON after the overpower or shutoff, its was firmware protection jumping in to protect hardware.
when its powered OFF after such incident, then its a hardware defect. (only BMS shutoff is resetable by charger, but its so low it never kicks in)
And actually i have to say i dont now how such tests like those can be run on such small battery? 20s with just 2P ?!
How should a battery, only capable of 2x10Amp=20Amps be able to sustain such crazy hill tests? Especially when the battery getting empty and then the cells even need to produce more amps to give you same power as on a high battery! so probably a overpowerFuse blows...or a part of the board.
KS/GW 1600wh wheels are 60Amp capable, so sure they dont do such things and can climb hills better and all this torque(amps) related tests.
And when we are on that point, just another hint:
YES, a KS shouts at you „caution overpower“, when you are near the battery capabilities of 60Amps....for example leaning in on heavy sprint test accelerations or hefty hills.
A GW does not...in fact it just ruins its batteries, as it doesnt have any such protections and draws amps that the battery isnt capable of and finally ruin battery chemistry. Nonetheless its not „more powerfull“....it is just not warning you ;-)
Other than that, great video production, as always :-)
Wow amazing feedback with knowledge content you should open your own review chanel🥰
i got into unicycle by being sold on the z10 commercial 2 y ago, that ninebot sent me because i owned the ninebot segway mini ___ i got the kingsong 16s and knew before first ride that i was going to love it my best wheel now is the gotway nicola you guess the voltage ^ looking forward to the future
Keep up the good work loving the channel.
Man, sorry that had to happen during a review. Also a good thing though, as it shows the reality of what can happen. Good stuff 👍
Same thing happened to me this weekend. I was riding and it suddenly died. The wheel was around 50% battery.
Go-to 14:50 ....
Talk about risking an expensive vehicle, going up a ramp, that goes directly into the water!!!👎 Get a leash...
OK, This trouble happen to me this evening.
I'm pretty sure that it doesn't overheat.
battery level up to 95%
I stop for a while try to turn on the light. but casually turn the euc off.
than, it doesn't turn on any more.
still surfing for solution.
DAMN :/ probably the fuse
I'm trying to order from Ewheel but nerve is holding me back. The v8 would be fine but the V8F is only a few picks more. Ive got to upgrade from my swagroller, need some speed.
Get the V8f if you got no problem with a heavier wheel then go definitely with the 16s45lbs or 16x 50lbs
Hill of Doooomm. Nice name. Where is it exactly?
Under Grota Bridge in Warsaw, Srodmiescie side :)
@@mr_wrongway Thanks. Ow you must give name to each of your test hill 😉
Już widziałem to kółko w Wiśle. 😄
Another quality informative review. Shame about the technical issue. Thank you! 🙏
Any update?
Good evening sir, I'm from Brazil and I was wondering which one are the best v8f or kingsong 16s 840wh?
I will go to work and the distance it's about 30km, I have 90 kilograms. Please help me because I am a beginner and we don't have gotway tesla v2 at all. I appreciate your time.👍👍👍
You're heavy. Bigger battery is probably better, you'll get less range anxiety.
Ya that's in the manual on the last page. That's what the F is for. InMotion V8 Fail, version. It just fails at complete random. Too bad, really.
You crazy trying to go up the hill climbs backwards. Man, between you and @EUCSidestreetReny I'm really getting inspired.
When he did this he was at 30% battery so he overpower the wheel this is a small wheel and it did pretty good on climbing the hills probably the wheel was not charge to the fullest. My point is that you can't attend to overpower at small wheel when your battery is almost dying on you, especially climbing those hills the way he did at 30%. This should be a commonsense experience to learn.
That's what happens when you go the wrong way was that Hill little To spicy😂✌
This is why im passing on the v11... Gotway or no way !
I abused the V10 over around 1500km and it did not die :) I think the bigger inmotions are more recommended :)
Hah, classic Inmotion. You are out of date wrt MCM5 ... there is a new version with higher pedals as of like a week ago.
Can you give a link to it to watch?
@@danielerdofi9164 only forum thread forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/18311-mcm5-v2-fits-25-inch-wide-tire-without-modification/
Informative review thanks, and the many comments on the failure leads to a question.
If what burned is a fuse, by design on a maximum current:
does it mean that the same can happen at higher speed, leading to a nasty crash?
Or this common scenario can for sure only happen near zero speed due to high torque demands.
This makes me concerned about safety of the wheel.
More videos like this.💪🤩
Goodness gracious. This has never happened to me, hope this never happens to me or anyone else, but these are machines after all. (By the way I saw a video which days don't ever interact with wanna be friends comment). By the way it's crazy how you so this backward thing. INTENSE
On our GW or KS with 1600wh we have 60plus amps propelling us, and doing the torque....that v8 has loughable 20Amps , sure it overpowers....
@@ullle66 mten3 survived its martyrdom in my testing ;)
Wrong Way! Yeah, sure....the reason why? Cause GW doesnt protect anything and yes, so it martyrs your batteries :-) (see my own seperate post)
Then also: Thats no 16inch....smaller wheel like mten can generate same torque as a bigger wheel with much less amp draw. Thats usually why they are so agile...the smaller the wheel the better the torque usage
Nice wheel. Doesn’t survive the tests, though. Me: just being facetious. PS. I UNDERSTAND v8f isn’t made for those steeps.
My v5f can do steep hills so im sure this one can if it was fully charged and not on low power.
Yes it will at full voltage not at 30% that's overpowering the wheel.
@@pottacoola Don't forget a v5f has a smaller diameter tire so the wheel makes more revolutions. This gives more torque and is easier on the batteries. The smaller the wheels the easier it is to climb (all other specs equal).
I have a small ninebot S2 and it's quite a climber even compared to the v8f.
Bo jak InMotion każe zejść z kołka i się odchyla do tyłu to trzeba zejść xD
moje V5F padło po 6 miechach wydaje mi sie ze bateria ,ładuje sie do fula kilometr przejade i odchyla sie do tyłu dead :D
9:30, is that marijuana ?
WRONG WAY!!
I don't like these devices. Electric scooters are the best.
Сжёг ?
Pierwszy !
Marcin! Gratuluje !!!
@@mr_wrongway xD Dzięki
I miss the old intro :(
InMotion "QUALITY"......... :) :) :)