Qudelix 5K _(Z Reviews)_ If BTR5 and ES100 had a Baby
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Hi Zeos, I can hear a difference between the filter options on my ES100, but to say any of them are better than others? I just stick with the slow roll off. If you click the little question mark next to the filter options, there is a really good description of the differences, as well as pictures of what is happening to the signal, and you can hear the difference. Click the question mark on the filter selection of the ES100, you will see it. The slow roll off is considered the "original" roll off setting, but I can hear a difference in all of them.
I love when Z holds his phone a lot. We can see his face in all its glory for much longer time.
At this point Z's face is well known anyway 😂
THIS IS WHY I HATE APPS
@@LuXifR Zeos is Black Noir
@@ZReviews you seem to have a human face! what a surprise. also, nice shirt. :P
Light mode will help if it's available.
Qude-licks.
Word is: one of the devs of the earstudio worked on the 5k.
Been rocking my 5k for two months, my hd700 love them, as do my hd650.
Battery = massive = 8-12hrs never ran out yet.
Range = also massive, never missed a beat in my entire house, even going downstairs.
I hope someone makes something like this that can do HDaduio and use a microphone at the same time.
This is what I’ve been looking for. Been hating my tws buds. Too easy to lose. Want to go back to my grado’s. Range is a dealbreaker for me. Thanks! My take on the pronunciation: cue-DEL-ix. Just an uneducated stab.
I'll say that 1 year later I still think it's amazing.
I just got mine last month and it was broke so they sent me a new one with a pair of their special iems that connect with balanced and 3.5.
How's latency while watching TH-cam videos?
This thing literally fixes literally all the issues I have with the ES100. Even the buttons are pro for me haha.
I like to think that Zeos knows that he'll have a lot of face reveals that he wore a Z Reviews shirt so people would know to buy the merch.
Hey Brother...... The BTR5 volume rocker can be held and the volume will go up without having to press it one at a time... When I press it too quickly like that, it changes the track and then I find myself having a Zeos moment and then start to laugh at myself! Thanks for making really entertaining and quite informative vids! Much respect from a fellow Italian !!!!
You can choose between the two in the app.
Once again Zeos shows his face. A young Bubba Ray Dudley. Very dashing.
It's been 2 months since i used it and works flawlessly with my OH10's. I'm glad i didnt go with the BTR5, this one gets updates and new features every time (plus the amazing app)
I have OH10s aswell and I am looking forward to buy 5k. I am wondering what settings/codec are you using and what’s the battery life you are getting out of it?
Can you describe your experience and what changed with the sound?
Have you used EQ? If so, does it respond to EQ really well?
Thanks!
@@rincis2280 I'm using it on an android with primary poweramp or tidal in bluetooth. Ldac (24bit 96khz), performance mode are enabled and battery life is pretty good still (can't get you an approximation since I plug it sometimes to my pc in order to use it as an USB dac so it recharges too). With absolute volume, I set it to -33db (with the protection so I can't go higher),which is LOUD but I can directly control it via my phone without quality loss and I still have some headroom for the volume. I haven't touched the EQ has much but I from what I can tell it's very complete and capable. It's an high precision 10 band eq with adjustable headroom (-6/-12db). All the settings are stored locally on the device so if you change phone or use it on usb mode, all the settings stay the same. The only problem I have with it are the controls, that's why I prefer the app or directly via my pc or phone. It's a bit for power users but you can keep it simple and it will juste work flawlessly.
@@marcfusch Awesome stuff! Thank you for your input. Seems like everything checks out what I need. I have been thinking about BTR5 aswell, but 5k seems like the better choice, even though it might be harder to buy in Europe (one store is in all Polish, so it is difficult to navigate)
Have you used it sometimes where it is connected to your phone and on your PC using USB? If so, does it switch around if you are getting audio from either device?
@@rincis2280 You can choose your source priority but when it detects that for exemple one source streams audio and the other one stopped, it will automatically switch to that audio source. If you receive a call with you phone connected, It will override the current audio and ring directly through it so you are aware. You can also answer the call directly from the on device controls and speak directly with the nuit in mic. After you hang up, it directly switches back to the usb mode. Very stable for me.
I got mine from a good seller on ebay and shipped it to France
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@@marcfusch Did you get some kind of warranty when you bought it from Ebay?
Recent update DOUBLES the bands of EQ (parametric and graphic) to 20 bands or 10 bands adjusting left and right ears INDIVIDUALLY 😃
*on the Qudelix 5k🎉🥂
Yep great stuff for
15 min to explain how controls work. that sounds user friendly
Yeah but it's Zeos. Explaining how a water tap works would likely take him 10 minutes ;) (And that's why we watch him :D )
@@Case_ i was gonna say
@@Case_ ranting about things is 90% of why i keep coming back but this product's UI looks like a nightmare no matter how hard you shill
Just ordered it. I was planning on getting the BTR5 then this came out. Looked it up and it's $22 off for Prime day.
You won't regret it, congrats!
How much was it on Prime Day after discount?
Like $88.
Do you like it?
@@Cappurnikus I do. Works well. Powerful for what it is with a lot of customization. I'm an audio noob but I can strap this to any of my headphones and get great sound out of them wirelessly.
It has a 20% off coupon on Amazon. Looking forward to using it with the TIN t2 I bought because of you.
Holyshit, buying for the mic options. If these bois can power some 4XX, then my new office setup has some improvments coming.
If Jack Black was an audiophile.
The only thing about filters. I have noticed is I prefer non oversampling By the way nice face reveal on the filter section of your review. Love the es100 and btr5.
You really should review the Sony Pulse 3D headphones. Not because they’re great..they probably suck, but because the people that are contemplating buying them are on the shit end of the marketing stick and could probably use some guidance. Lure them in and open their ears to a world of physics rather than broken dreams and undelivered promises. Good chance to touch on 3D audio too.
Great as always, and I understand the issue with unlabeled buttons (just alpha characters would be fine) I don't see why it's such a big issue to locate the buttons in space.
There's the clip to orient which side, and the jack for which end. When adjudting I'd just hold it clip facing in, jack facing up; no confusion.
With IEMs I can always tell the difference between the sharp and slow filters. Sharp sounds thinner but more precise. The delay filters make things sound muddy to me.
"Trash taste podcast, Gigguk put out a new video."
Zeos Pantera - certified weeb ; )
Thanks for the overview. I was tossing up between this and the BTR5 (or even a stretch to the BTR7). I'm not an audiophile, just looking for something to use with my phone/PC and mid-range IEMs. Appreciate you going through how the device and app function, I can see the Q5 is much more suitable to me personally than the FiiO offerings.
Fiio has recently released the Q3, a THX dac/amp which probably is the successor of the beloved Q1 Mk2. Hopefully you have that in your radar for a review.
He just said in the razer opus review that thx is bullshit bcs is owned by razer now
After hearing the wonders of autoEQ'd hd6xx, I'm probably switching to this from a Q3 so that I don't have to worry about setting it up on every system I work with.
10:57 you finally shaved in the past from the future
yes, Back to pre covid facial hair.
It's 129$ shipped for me... I still don't know if I get one or if it's a luxury. I have already an ES100 and contrary to Zeos I find the app glorious and pretty simple.
I like that Fire Place. Looks like one of those Costco impulse buys.
Together with Porsche speedometer :D
I bought a balanced cable to use with the BTR5 and my Tin T2's. Didn't immediately notice the difference, also broke it almost immediately.... first time I ever broke a cable, darn that 2.5mm...
On this monumental 13th of October, Zeos Pantera spit on his thumb.
I wonder if Zeos will ever give up on the phone volume buttons in favor of the volume slider that isn't relegated to the large steps.
I have noticed a difference in the different filter sounds listening to a pair of Audioquest Nighthawk Carbons with an Es100 v2. It's not a huge change and I can't hear a difference in all of the settings, but I do hear a change in a couple of them.
Bought one of these,
mounted it onto the headband of my k712s and modded them to be balanced.
Best wireless headphones for the price.
wym modded them to be balanced? and can i do this to my k7xx? 👀
Well, if you wanted to e.g. compensate for a bass heavy headphones, you could set the DAC's EQ.
I just want to know which has better sound!
Been using the btr3k since it was released, on occasion with the oppo ha-2se.
Now even the btr5 just released a 2021 version. My combo sounds a touch out of date. Haha. Still loving it though.
How do they compare range-wise? One reviewer said if you had your phone in one pocket and the Fiio in the other, it was spotty. That’s a dealbreaker for me. I like to have a video going and move around my house.
So glad u are reviewing this was waiting since last year for it to come out
BTR5 lets you change the volume buttons to hold for +/- instead of taptaptap, I think it might have been a recent firmware update
yes but it will go slow to the point its faster to taptaptap.
Put a small piece of masking tape on one side to differentiate. That's what I do with earbud cases.
Review in a nutshell "Highly trained individuals with a Lotta power with the nipple for play pause"
As soon as it was read, it was spoken...and it was hilariously accurate!
10:40 "fifteen different levels because all phones are shitty"
Y'all really need to get your hands on an LG V20-60 or G7-8x, my G7 has 75 steps and uses the same ESS 9218S DAC as this does (sadly only one, since the 5K has a second one that kicks in for balanced mode).
I have had to learn how to trick it into using high impedance mode on my less sensitive low impedance stuff, but it really does a good job of powering my HD598SR, MDR-7506, PX-90, and it even handles my 600ohm AKG K141s pretty well.
If I could get my old V20 back off the in-laws (buried in a storage locker) I'd gladly send it your way to try out
Samsung with OneUI - install sound assistant and you can set multiple volume steps
Couple years to late but this little wonder has been the best cheap u car $100 impulse buy I have made in a while. This has continued to impress with different ways I have used it. Originally just bought for the eq isine cipher presets for audeze isine because audeze stopped making the cipher cables and one if mine died. It has Bluetooth that honestly doesn't suck, has power to drive my 2021 audeze lcd x and other headphones that have no right to power. In fact I have taken some of these big plannars out in Walks for the heck of it with the power it has. It has good clean power and great separation and doesn't sound harsh , digital or analytical (boring) . I could easily sell the audioquest dragonfly red as it doesn't get used now. Anyone know where to get the balanced connector for this to take advange of more power? Thanks!
It's also worth noting if you're on android you can enable developer options in your phones settings to force the bluetooth codec. Not only can you force the phone to use a certain codec but you can also choose the bit rate and frequency that it transmits at. I have my note 8 set to use only LDAC for bluetooth audio.
Biggest problem with the Fiio BTR5 is the absolutely abysmal bluetooth connectivity: BTR5 in right pocket/back pocket, cellphone in the left pocket, move around in an odd position and the connection can straight up die or, more commonly, starts clipping. If you want to use your btr5 as ANYTHING other than a pocket dac/amp when going out, then you DESPERATELY want an alternative.
When are you going to review the new HD 560s from Sennheiser? They seem to be pretty good for their pricepoint ^^
Finally device with working EQ with LDAC codec. Bye Bye BTR5.
I just got the BTR3k and this video comes up.
That's a good wireless dac as well! It's what I usually recommend people to get!
@@KillaHafiz89 Pretty much yeah. I actually got two instead because they were much affordable than the BTR5.
I got the btr3k also no regrets, its like the btr5 but its bluetooth is fixed (lots of reports of btr5 buetooth issues) haha just minus the oled screen. This 5k is interesting but i really hate the build/design of it. The btr3k just feels like a solid device in hand with the glass and aluminum and the buttons feel great too it just feels like it will last a long time.
I got a 5K last week. When I first tried to buy it, it was sold out. A week later there were just a few left so I hit buy quick. Note, I use it with IEMs. Coming from ES100, the first thing I noticed was better detail in the highs. Particularly cymbals sound more metallic and real. I also quickly noticed it sounds brighter, sharper and more aggressive, which I'm sort of hot-and-cold on. The difference is bigger on IEMs with BAs like the Mangird Tea than on DD ones like Blon BL-03.
I *think* I hear some difference between the DAC filters, though it's really subtle and difficult to quantify. The graphs and text make you want to listen for changes in the highest highs, but I know I can't hear that. What I'm hearing is in transients and how bass resonates. I'm liking what Apodizing Type 2 and Minimum Phase Fast Rolloff do to the bass. It's a very subtle effect, almost to the point where I start to wonder if I'm fooling myself. Almost.
The buttons definitely could be better. Way too easy to push both sides at once, and I keep wanting the UPPER blue button to be power, not pairing. The blue side does have a tactile bump at the top though, which helps locate the correct side by feel.
That is what EQ is for.
@@waynejrice Yep. Knocking a bit off 8 kHz helps it. That seems to be the most common place for a spike that makes me say something sounds objectionably bright and sharp in my ears.
I returned the BTR15 yesterday and got the 5k this morning. I don't know if I had a defective BTR15 or people just live with it's faults. The FiiO unit was so buggy, it would disconnect and shut off when switching between USB and BT, I couldn't use EQ on one of them at all, the volume slider is locked on the phone in one mode so you have to use the tiny volume buttons. Sometimes it would just stop playing completely if I changed EQ settings and it needed a restart all the time. I factory reset the unit 3 separate times and no problems were solved. Also updated the firmware a few days ago to 3.5 and it didn't help. So far, I'd say the 5K wipes the floor with BTR as far as usability, although it definitely feels a bit more sterile, which is unfortunate. The clip on the 15 was cheap and didn't hold well on belt loops. The size of the 5K is so much more convenient for me, I stuck a metal plate on it and it sticks to my magsafe case. The BTR15 looks cool but it's not as practical, I could never figure out how to wear it that was accessible for the volume buttons.
I’m dead!! He spit in his thumb!!!
will this replace your btr5 for regular use
No probably not BUT.. If I lose it I have excellent backups.
Why ? What's the reason for that with your honest opinion which has the best battery life and sound quality out of the this and btr5 ?
Think I'll just give this one a go
@@redeyes1432 the difference between the two as I see it is that the Bluetooth chip in the 5k is a new "low power" chip which is 65% more efficient even with it's smaller battery (500mah vs BTR 5's 550mah). So if you're using bluetooth more often go 5k. They share the same Sony DAC so bluetooth audio should be the same, but the usb chip in the BTR 5 can go to 32bit audio vs the 5k's 24bit. TL;DR for bluetooth audio and battery life the 5k is better, but BTR 5 is a better USB DAC. Cheers
I've had a horrible time using the BTR3 and BTR5 with windows. The use of the mic requires switching bluetooth to hands free mode from stereo and output quality plummets. I was hoping to use this with videoconference apps but I can't get anywhere near the quality of even the $11 amazon special usb audio devices. The Qudelix just arrived and I'm hoping for different behavior out of it. Please add this test to these devices, my PC38Xs are sad.
update?
@@luiscacho6112 qudelix wins, has mic + 44.1 mode over usb but still suffers from reduced quality during bluetooth mic use, very much the best option
Everyone else likes it, and Zeos likes it....idk why I'm still here, I already bought it.
I have owned my Qudelix-5k for 1.5 years. With my Thie Audio Legacy 3s.
Why is there a Porsche 911 dash on your fireplace thingy? I love it lol
But Zeos... Isn't a big clip on one side a good indicator of which side is which? Asking seriously.
This is exactly what i was thinking!
You need to do it by feel alone and I clip inside and out so unless you want to study it with your hands beforehand.
@@ZReviews well I just bought mine so I guess I will find out
$88 on Amazon today! Yes, I own it and yes you should buy it!
Was it brand new? Can you provide me a link, please?
CAN I USE THE MIC USING THE DAC THROUGH USB?
Damn I just bought the btr3k I kinda want to buy this now
same :(
I ordered BTR5 few days ago too, no regrats.. Yet..
@@PeterPaoliello I had both for a few weeks, I kept the BTR5. While the Qudelix is technically better in several regards I hated the buttons and the build. While it's decent, it doesn't hold a candle to the BTR5. The BTR5 feels like a solid chunk of metal and glass, where the 5k feels more like a hollow metal shell. I tested them back to back over 2.5mm balanced and the 5k does have more juice, but the BTR5 still has plenty to run power hungry planars (like Aeon closed backs, HifiMan Edition XX) without an issue.
Dude the Qudelix shits all over the btr5😉
It's true it has a learning curve regarding the lack of marking and Zeos addressed this well. But qudelix is better in all aspects vs btr5. App, power, sound costumization and carefree usage(lack of glass), hell it even makes a athm50x sound good!
I'm buying the Qudelix-5K
in the last month since i found you, you've become my go-to in terms of audio. your explanations are very useful for someone like me who itn't yet used to the hifi world, so thanks a lot for the always awesome content!
by the way, i'm wondering if I am throwing away money if I buy a dac amp like these and use it on my marshall Mode stereo earphones? especially the earstudio es100, since the app would be a tremendous help to learn exactly what everything does. would those earphones do justice to these devices?
It certainly won't hurt, but I don't remember hearing much good about those Marshall headphones. If you get the 5k or BTR5 at least you'll be setup well whenever you get to upgrading up from the Marshalls.
@@Camride thanks for the info!
@@TheRpggamer91 No problem 👍
After having it a long time, still works very well, this is basically bullet proof maybe? Everything FiiO I buy ends up breaking... I'm just... bad luck, bad wrong with them I guess. Just got a big software update.
I wonder how this Qudelix compares to my old Dragonfly Red?
I have both and i prefer the qudelix. It's honestly so much better and versatile I would be happy to sell the audioquest. Surprised how powerful it is. So much clearer and clear without harshness. It has Bluetooth that honestly doesn't suck. It's so much more useful with the ap.
Please do a review on the E1DA 9038 ! The measurements for it says it beats the 5K by quite a margin!
TLDR for time pinched people like me? Which one Z recommends?
Z what kind of xlr to 2.5 cable is that? I’m looking for a angled 2.5mm just like that!
I'll stick with my Btr5 with the DDhifi case on a lanyard, and bought short 45-50 cm cables for my IEM's, just perfect, no more long cables and putting it in my pocket.
Hey, where did you purchase your short cables from? I'm interested in having compact set-up myself. Thanks in advance.
@@d3nd4v2 I bought them from Ali Express. Fiio sells their own as well specificly for the Btr5 with MMcx and 2 pin connections( If you need 2pin ones and you don't have Fiio IEM's than don't buy that. I made the mistake and it was way too big for my Kanans pro for example, so I can't use it. Maybe it will fit other IEM's other than Fiio's own, but for me didn't fit). I needed QDC connection as well so I went to Ali and found a few options, similar quality than the Tripowin cable Zeos promots just much shorter, they around 30-35 bucks.
@@attilathehun79 Thanks for the info. I like the tripowin, own 2 of them. I need QDC as well as 2pin .78 so I'll take a look at aliexpress. Appreciate you.
@@d3nd4v2 No problem, just look for short IEM cables, or check out DIY Earphone Tribe Store on Ali, that's where i got mines.
@@attilathehun79 Will do.
I use that thing with a short, tailor-made stable to turn my ZMF Verite Closed into a bluetooth headphone. Insane? Yes! Does it work? Yes!
This comment resonated so much. I've got z7m2 at my desk and when they are off they serve the same purpose! .
@@zachstephenson7590 "stable" ;-)
Bruh! You are so much fun to watch 😂 Where the hell can I get the right angle headphone cable you’ve got there? It looks like female 3.5 to male 2.5, is that right? Thanks for the made review 😝
Is balanced cable really worth it for other than the loudness? Asking for IEMs (SE846s)
Yes, it makes more of a difference with iems than with regular headphones. IEMs are more sensitive to changes and a better quality balanced cable should be a noticeable difference from a stock single ended 3.5mm cable.
Id say yes. I notice more with IEMs then headphones the benefit of balanced/
So you can actually have the LEDs be permanently on, so then there isn't any guesswork
Got the K5 with Sennheiser HD6xx and with IEM’s Volume is SO LOW and on the PS5 it’s half of LOW..
would you get this over the BTR5?
Quaid-lix the Total Recall of portable audio products. :)
She's been reviewing lot's of amps these last few days, cant be many more headphones left to review lol
The z train has no breaks
In regards to portable audio widgets... like BTR5 and the like, the important thing is how much of it can be used, without external software, because over time software will break due to lack of development and devices like phones and operating system versions moving forward... so there needs to be a longevity rating for such things, how well does it work as a dumb device etc...
zeus what yaxi pads are you use on ether c flows?
dos it fit on hifimans ?
how dose it change the sound?
How about putting a piece of electrical tape near where the blue light is?
Yes, I'm into the 5K verses the Ear Studio...its going back. I'm kinda interested in the Cayin R-2R Dac given the Denafrips Ares II and its across the Bd Rave Reviews and not, being able to throw down on it, yet.
I was going to buy one of these but the button thing seems like it will annoy me. I keep hearing that the Fiio app doesn't do much and I wonder if they are referring to a different app. The Fiio Control app has a lot of settings divided over three pages, it includes EQ and the option to change Bluetooth codecs plus a lot of stuff that seems very technical and I leave alone.
friend so worth taking this Qudelix 5k?
Turn the lights always on!
So to find out how it SOUNDS we listen to the BTR5 review?. You didnt say how it sounds specifically only in relation to the the BTR5.
8mo later, which is the better buy. BTR5 or the Qudelix? Currently they are the same price in Canada.
Wait you can have an extended warranty just for leaving a review
What a deal
Was about to buy the btr5 and then I saw this and a fat 20% off on amazon and I was like.... Ok
So... Do you like it?
i bought btr5 right i did?
How does the sound compare to the btr5 and es100
so... hold up... why do you use this, or any of these? What do you use with them?
You can use these to turn almost any pair of wired headphones into wireless, or you can use them as a higher-quality headphone dongle for a phone or an external sound card for a PC.
Anyone else noticing Zeos slowly revealing his face. 7:00
I already have the btr5, apart from the obvious that it's shiny would u recommend this as well maybe for the EQ via LDAC and USB DAC mode u don't get through the Fiio?
I was thinking of getting one of these but nowhere sells it, including Chinese stores like Linsoul and Hifi Go, Ali Express don't have it or Amazon. You can only get it direct from the Qudelix website which seems very weird.
Why is that weird ?
Looks like I'm gonna pull the trigger on this! I own the ES100, and really enjoy it. Also have the Fiio BTR5, but sadly I can't use it because it constantly looses connection, what a bummer. First Fiio product I own that disappoints. Anyone else with issues on the BTR5?
Range isn’t good on my btr5.
Stickers for the win Z
Hey, need some help. ATH MSR7B at $110 is a good deal? Or the AKGs K361 are better? Thx Zeos
I hear a tiny difference with the filters(? ) I don`t know really and I don`t care if I have to listen that closely to hear a difference . That is true with cables for me too.
It's clear the difference.Had the discussion a month ago. And we came to the same conclusion on what filter sounded best
@@ta114 I am not arguing about what you are hearing. What is important to ME is what I hear with my equipment which is minimal difference at best. Who is this "we"? i`m curious to know. And if there is a filter that that sounds best with every equipment to everyone`s taste why put the filters at all.
Quick ‘ludes. Got it.
Is that a Geselli J2 in Purple on your display table, desk, whatever?
Quick question for someone who has it, it is possible to set two EQ settings on the app and switch to one another on the Qdelix ?
Btr5 looks great
Can someone tell me if you can establish a wired connection to an iPhone 11 using a CCK? Or is there a cheaper cable.
Is there any DACs that have a noise cancellation microphones for calls?