The BTR7 Just Changed the Game...
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7:35 The Firmware and Buttons
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Quick question
Opinnion on Shanling UP5 vs BTR7?
Also I figure out late in the video that the Firmware allows Swapping of Volume as a press to a hold and Double press for Next / Last track
It allows that in the BTR5 as well. I use long press for volume control and double click for track changing.
I "upgraded" from the btr 5 to the btr 7. Bought it from Linsoul on 7/7, delivered to the US on 7/20. The 7 has more power, a bigger battery, a better amp, better bluetooth, and wireless charging. If you have the 5 and you don't need wireless charging then i don't know if I'd suggest buying it. BUT if you're in the $200 range buying something new then this is a fantastic device. And yes I agree, the case is rancid garbage.
It has Wireless Charging.. WHAT.
Do any of these things have digital out ?
@@ZReviews yup! Qi wireless charging 🙃
Holy crap it has wireless charging!
I regret buying my btr 5 because apple dongles exist
Pre-ordered this from B&H and it just shipped today. I'm really excited. Thanks for the great review!
The option to switch the volume/skip function between double press and hold press is also available for BTR5 btw. I've got the older 2020 unit and have been using that option for a while, can't say with 100% confidence that it's always been able to do it but I'm fairly sure. I got my current phone about a year ago and it could definitely do it since then
You are very correct, this is an OLD feature
Can support this claim
Ordered mine on July 13th… after I bought the 5 Apple edition a couple days before on Amazon… Sent the 5 back w/o even trying it out… can’t wait. Thanks Z!
Thank you it’s now the future October I bought the brt 5 on your recommendation very pleased with it but I found the volume limited with my klipsch hp3 you also recommended so I’ve bought the brt 7 on your recommendation cheers and bottoms up from a subscriber in the uk.
I will explain the car situation. Most modern luxury cars are like rolling isolation tanks, the use of frequency isolators in the suspension as well as sound insulating material throughout the body structure makes for a serene driving experience.
13:55 You can NOW HOLD IT.. And double tap for next/last. I figure it out at the end.
just ordered this a minute ago and I'm here (again) to ease my buyers guilt.
I'm probably going to watch your review of the Lirics on repeat for a weak once I get those.
I think you may have been thinking of the EarStudio ES100 MK2-24bit Radsone. Still the bomb. I've bought several (for self and gifts) due to your review. Amazing product.
You are Correct Sir
Same here got first release es100 radsone still now rocking 😊 good application too…
Got my FiiO BTR7 about 1 month ago, beautiful synergy with FiiO FD7, well worth the upgrade from the OG BTR5 😁
@Vittoria FH9 also has great synergy with the BTR7 🙂
@Vittoria Sounds good looking forward to your thoughts on the KA3
ext still competitive imo, its clear winner against more expensive kse1500
There goes ol' Zeos spending my money for me again. More power is all I really wanted out of the BTR5, and here we go.
Great review as always Z! I would have bought this in a second 2 years ago. Now I look at all my gear and think I should sell stuff instead of buying!
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@@ZReviews My house already looks like the best of Z reviews! You have been a bad influence!LOL
You should sell some stuff you don't use to someone else looking to upgrade what they have, and then get this if it fits something you need.
I have a rack for seven vintage receivers...that was the most recent binge. It was preceded by an IEM phase...I think I bought too many. Now, I basically trade off between 3 of the 7 receivers and only 3 of the 15 IEM's...just the S12, Olina, and TKZK Wave get a lot of use. Good God...it's worse than camera lenses.
Great review?! Dude rambled on for 45 minutes! This should’ve taken 10 minutes tops.
Listening to this on my BTR7.
Mr. Z - Do you notice any differences specifically in the frequency response on the BTR7 in Bluetooth mode vs USB mode? I've noticed the BTR5 sounds significantly different on BT vs USB. In USB, it sounds phenomenal, but in BT it messes with the midrange in a weird way and it rolls off the upper treble in such a way as to take the sparkle out of anything I plug in. Really, I've noticed this with every BT FiiO device I have tried. It's not the codec, it does the same thing whether AAC or LDAC. It's specifically something happening when music is going through the BT chipset. I've pretty much stopped using my UTWS5 altogether and my BTR5 except for USB mode and from my TV over BT. It just changes how my IEMs and headphones sound too much.
Agreed, BTR5 sounds quality through usb. Sounds very smooth and detailed.
@@maxnation20 Do you also get the weird FR when using over Bluetooth?
@@jafizzle95 well if the codec selected is LDAC then over the Bluetooth sound seems to be fine and flat as compared to APTX. Yes I have noticed it sounds harsh especially the highs when on APTX but on LDAC it sounds better and on usb as you mentioned phenomenal.
Bluetooth is limited to CD quality sound files. If you are doing any streaming with Apple HD or Tidal MQA then of course it's going to sound better when connected to USB. Also, there is some slight power loss when transmitting over Bluetooth.
@@thinkhector Actually Bluetooth falls just short of lossless CD quality so it will always sound worse than over USB. Both Apple and Samsung have some proprietary audio codecs that claim to be closer, but they both use Bluetooth to transfer that data, so there will always be a physical limitation of bandwidth.
Awesome review as always, thank you.
Hey Z, quick question: for $200 would you rather have this or the Go Blue? (I find myself in that specific conundrum right now)
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i prefer a18t, ve10 will win at highend dac battle though
Thanks for the review. I am leaning toward buying the BTR7, assuming it's best-in-class in what it does.
Curious how it compares to the Shangling UP5. Thats been my pick above the Ifi Goblu and the BTR5 until now.
Got my BTR7 on Wednesday night, holy sh*t this thing is good!
How?
Links in the description bby
Just ordered mine today on Apos, thanks Z!
Will You Follow Me? by Rob Dougan is so good! I immediately knew from the first second after you took off the cans haha
Wish his recording quality was as good as his music.
Im dubbing this the bluetooth-inator. I stuck some 15lb velcro on my btr7 and the other half of velcro to what ever headphones’ ear cup i have. Now i have the best bluetooth cans at any given point in time
Was that "User," a Tron reference 😂 the way you said that makes me feel some type of way.
So when I am looking for audio I check with you. The first video I ever saw from you said "People are trusting me to review these stuff". Thanks Z Reviews.
So BTR7 or iFi Go Blu? (sound wise)
Boost mode is available in the btr5 too. It gets hot enough to listen to he560s which isn't a small achievement for a $100 coin pocket sized dacamp
can't find the boost mode with my btr5.. very confused.
I am looking for something to brighten up my car stock speakers. I was mainly interested in the BTR7 then the m11 plus and q7 dsd512 caught my attention. Any suggestions which one would be best for my usage? Thanks
Great video. Waiting for the BTR15 review...
I've been waiting for this!
I wonder how does it compare to luxury&precision w2 131 ? Your reviews sounds good . Tempting!
Now this is going to sell out. Thanks Z
Hey Z! You sold me on the idea of BTR5 ( I choose the 2021 revision). Do u plan checking out the FiiO K5 Pro ESS version? Is it worth it considering I have Btr5 or should I save for its big bro The K9 Pro?
I don't think I've ever come to the decision on spending £175 so quickly I'm really hoping that these can finally give me what I've been looking for: a decent portable solution for my tin p1s considering they were driving argons I'm quite hopeful. I'll update when it gets here amazon same day shipping FTW 😀
Hey, do you have an update? :')
I have bought one myself i will share review soon i will use it will my planar iem
My xduoo xp 2 pro just stopped doing Bluetooth. Now I’m here Happy to hear about the Bluetooth range. That will be a big improvement.
Im waiting for the UTWS7. I had the BTR5 but cant go back to this semi wireless style now after having the UTWS5. Its just much more convenient.
Well I have both, btr5 2021 which I gave to my girlfriend because as an IPhone user now I use Khadas Tea (INDISPENSABLE) and UtSw5. Btr5 is much more superior that ut…Ut lacks LDAC but much more important, I think it lacks enough power to feed relatively hungry Iems. UtWS5 is quite convenient for a really unwired way of listening with SOME OF a IEM sound profile. The ACTUAL sound profile is still wired that is with btr5 except for quite hungry iems or several over ears. Anyway UTWS5 is clearly better than most tws earbuds such as Sony’s, Samsung or Apple’s
Hello 😊 that secret boost is propably just on a level of the digital gain...
What's the Bluetooth range outside? Have you seen the HBB video of the 5k?
"you gotta hold it, but, not-long-enough-to-turn-it-off, and that's like a weird game of chicken?" Had me spit out cereal I laughed so hard.
Very happy with the BTR5...though it doesn't get much use these days as I've opted for bluetooth earloops (KZ AZ09 Pro's) with my Shouer S12's. The BT 5.2 earloops only cost me $26 on discount and they have plenty of power to drive these planars. Liked them soooo much...bought a second set for my Olina's. They last for a good 6 hours and can serve in the office too, for hands-free calls. I still use the BTR5 on long travels (flights or sometimes on the train). For the car...EarfunFree Pro 2 earbuds in ambient mode.
Favorite FiiO product...the BTA30 Pro. Fantastic multi-purpose device (TX, RX, DAC) for only about $125.
I ordered the bta30pro, should be here sometime next week. Gonna connect it to my k5pro to listen to my ipad pro.
@@iluvj00 Have two...one as a DAC from PC to a vintage Yamaha receiver/amp (then either speakers or headphones). The other for the family room, as an RX to my Pioneer vintage receiver and Dali speakers, so that I can stream music from the phone. This little device is so damn capable...affordable...dependable...and performant. IMHO.
I think you will be very pleased.
Thumbnails have been looking great!
That Yellow Arrow is really all that stays consistent.
Hi Z, i didnt understand what the btr7 going into this video was, and I would really have appreciated a stronger intro so i could understand what the topic was from the get go. Great video though!
I'll work on it, I always falsely assume people know about the thing
how does it compare to the ifi go blu?
How about those Fluid Image 2’s. When you’re looking around I’m always search the background for those sitting; waiting to be reviewed.
Z - Qudelix 5 has the kick ass app support you were probably thinking of. The EQ is what makes it. 20 different custom pre-settings is just ridiculous. Puts it over the top.
The pre settings are nothing. The fact it uses AutoEQ is a big one. But it pales in comparison to the fact that it supports fucking PARAMETRIC EQ
No he was thinking of the Earstudio ES100 which he gushed about a few years back - especially the app.
@@Creeper99PL btr7 also has parametric eq
@@adriangpuiu only a single filter available can only save one user setting, mixed up with normal eq ... no it cannot compete.
@@ouaille13 so sticking with the 5k is the best option so far
I really want to like this but I'm worried it'll brick. I had the btr5 brick after a year and a couple older fiio stuff brick. Does anyone else have this experience?
Hello Bro.. do you think this one can move properly TinHifi P2 ?? Great reveiw by the way..
How have you not reviewed any Revel bookshelfs or loudspeakers? F226be and F126be are both interesting. Like Topping they are designed around objective measurements resulting in very low distortions
They aren't really just out there. Go throw them in this post. See what the community thinks. forum.hifiguides.com/t/what-items-should-i-buy-to-review-zeos/35197/132
Just got nofication mine will bee arriving in a few days from audio64 in New York. Can't wait.
Have you tried the Questyle M15? I would think that the Fiio BTR7 is in a similar category. Currently they both sit around the same price on Ali sellers with 11.11 sales.
Not sure if anyone has done a comparison. Both seem like highly capable and good quality DAC/AMPS. Maybe Fiio's advantage will be the bluetooth functionality.
What phone are you using? Does that make a difference? For FLAC files which phone would you choose?
I don't get it, he never spoke about how it sounds? I know my BTR5 has a specific sound that happens when I turn on EQ for example with no tunning. The sound becomes... worse, its like it gets muffled or something.
I use hearing aids and still appreciate any system that can deliver hifi without simply increasing volume. Imagine my chagrin at turning this unit down and actually hearing better.
Using 13 Pro Max with Truthear iems.
Super clear. Still, my SONY NW A50, with Olinas or sundaras is considerably more exciting.
Update: the BTR7 now supports custom parametric EQ through an app update!
Can this work on streaming apps?
@@Bizarre5165 once you create an eq preset it is saved on the device. Then you can use it for whatever you want.
Purely in terms of sound quality, BTR7 vs Mojo 2?
BTR7 vs MoonRiver 2? Using MR2 with Hifiman EXS and it’s badass. Sooo much power.
If i remember correctly the output power is slightly lower on the MR2 vs BTR7, it's rather average especially given the price.
No clip like they provided with the BTR3?? I use the BTR3 when at the gym and use the clip to clip it to my pocket to avoid it moving around. That works perfect.
Yeah, the BTR7 is probably too heavy. It's either BTR5 or wait for the next BTR3.
I feel like one of the main defining features of this unit is car mode. Is there a noise floor when plugged into a car's aux and USB power but music is paused? Does the auto reconnect feature work reliably? My fiance's car auto connects and auto plays the last thing was was playing on your phone. Does this have the ability to auto play as well?
Does this sound better than the Monolith Thx AAA Portable amp/Dac?
Any significant difference between low and high gain if your headphones operate just fine at both? I know low gain is more battery friendly but what about audio quality? From my personal experience, low gain appears less bright and smoother.
I'm curious as Z mentioned "close to desktop level" when he activated the secret gain option.
From what I know, any amp that has separate gain modes would have a higher noise floor in high-gain mode.
Of course, it wouldn't matter for any high impedance equipment that needs the high gain in the first place.
So, would this be a good replacement for the New Fiio K3 for the desktop and then added ability to use wirelessly if I wanted?
I couldn't hold back, i end up impulse buy and randomly purchased the Audio64 Fourte yesterday, costed an arm and only sounded slightly better than the Shure SE846 lol.
What really??
im trying to decide between the u6t, moondrop s8 and Shure 846 that I've wanted since they've came out. have you heard the s8? Are the Shures still relevant in 2022?
Just got it, but the volume is extremely low while using the USB C from phone to BTR7, and 3.5mm to the headset.
Max volume on BTR7, Phone, headset.
Using headset built in Bluetooth, 2.4Ghz dongle, or 3.5mm to laptop is waaaaayyyy louder.
Tried low gain, high gain, boost, but nothing works.
I already updated the firmware, and restarted the BTR7 and Phone multiple times.
It also is very low volume with Phone Bluetooth to BTR7 and then 3.5mm to headset.
Use the provided cable. Plug and unplug it and it should b ok.... I'm not hearing a huge difference between LDAC and wired (wired is better but not as much as I expected)...
"Anything in my pants should feel like a used bar of soap" My next tattoo.
The btr5 used to have a bug where you couldn't use EQ with ldac. Is the bug fixed with the btr7?
I saw a post that a recent firmware finally brought PEQ - anyone know if that’s true?
OK curious why doesn’t the Apple cable that comes with my iPhone work with this dac? I do have the cable that came with the dac for the iPhone and it does work it’s just very short.
Also, I’m just wondering I get this kind of metallic sensation from the FiiO DACs I’m doing something wrong is there a way to lesson that.
One other thing the FiiO website does anybody know why it’s so slow and or if there’s another link for the firmware update because the website is almost impossible to access --so slow so very slow… the FiiO app says it’s updated, but the current firmware is V1.85 but I have 1.68.
This or the K-5 Pro for Desktop (Same price, mobility not important)? And what is the max impedance of the headphones that it can drive?
The Fiio K5 Pro, sounds a bit warmer and a bit more spacious, the BTR7 sounds a bit more leaner (neutral) so it's up to you what you prefer.
The Qudelix 10k should be legit whenever it comes out now.
I just received my Qudelix 5K last week. I am really enjoying it. If I need more power I am not aware of it. Using it with the balanced 2.5 through my Ananda's. I did originally preorder the BTR7 but got tired of waiting on the preorder and went ahead and bought it for about half of the other. I still think I may buy the BTR7 before it is all said and done.
Just picked up the BTR7...you're bang on with this review. Try to review the PULA PA02...IMO it blows up the $200 IEM world and competes in the $500+ class...just sayin!
Would it be able to drive the hifiman Sundara ?
I'm a complete beginner in hifi, i can't seem to find any desktop amp that could allows me to plug my phone ... Any recommendations ?
Are the videos partially zoomed in a stabalized?. I see a ring of black border creeping into the frame.. - curious.
That's an ND filter, the stabilization does zoom a bit.
Does this have bluetooth 5.2?
what you think LP W2 or BTR7 ? i just confused, should i buy BTR7 or LP W2?
Does the btr7 not have a clip? I always use my btr5 in a plastic clip on my collar when on phone calls.
Is it more powerful than the Fiio Q3?
Is this worth getting over the btr5 or quedlix with use of iems such as the z12 and possibly blessing 3 or seeaudio bravery ae?
Go Blu XSpace is an analog crossfeed feature. It is remarkable for 50s 60s hard panned jazz recordings. Can btr7 do this? Qudelix?
A portable transparemt dac amp. balanced connector is a really nice feature.
Better than Q5s TC?
Does the EQ work on LDAC? I have 2 BTR-5'S and that is my biggest complaint.
nice taste tho i have the Bayerdynamic dt 900 pro x (present from chrismas 2022) and they sound very good. the trebble is a bit shaking but over all very good.
one of my friends has the Tiger and modified them to a mini xlr input.
I have been running the Q5 for more than a year now with shure 535. I like the size and clip it to my suspenders, but the buttons get pushed on accident quite a bit.
You meant the BTR5 right? The Q5 has no clip.
@@loganadenveerapen2875 The Q5 does have a pocket clip.
@@loganadenveerapen2875 really think r mm issuing bigger point here, 'clipped to my suspenders'
So.... Does it sound as good as the 5k? Better than? Worse than?
Got mine from audio46 yesterday. It's fucking amazing!!
I was considering the 7, but I was waiting for this video. I didn't know if the 70 dollar difference was worth it. But then I found a listing for 90$ for the btr5 refurbished or something. A day later I got it and it was brand new. So not only did I not pay 70+ for the 7 but I saved 40$ for the btr5.
Qudelix 5K is a far better DAC. imo
4:43 Unfortunately on Ali those ddhifi cases are nowhere to be found, probably discontinued :/
Btr7 vs ifi Go Blu is the only Thing I Care about in
How about compare with Shanling UP4 Because it also has dual chips
Hello, ive got the Audio Technica ATH-R70x is the btr7 a good option to pair with it?
Will it be a good match for the Sundara? TIA.
i have the iFi Zen DAC V2 for my desk and a BTR3k for everything else, is this enough of an upgrade over the btr3k to replace that, while also sounding as good as the zen V2 so i could replace both with this? Thanks!
I remember when I tried to buy some new speakers and the seller from the shop told me when I was telling him about dacs…”the unit that REALLY makes sound is not the dac but the SPEAKER”. He was quite right. The KEY question is WHAT IS YOUR ANALOGUE DOMAIN like? Which Headphones do you have or plan to have? Answer that question and then later try the best affordable way to feed them. Don’t fool yourself. The higher price of BTR7 is for me explained by its tech (in part) and that tech is applied to have more versatility for feeding headphones, I mean why replacing a product like btr3k (in my case I know btr5) if I am not planning to use more hungry headphones?
Zeos give us a review of cayin ru6 and questyle m15
I got mine from Amazon they day before you posted
Would you recommend this over a 5K?
? If u buy this device, do u even need a dap?.. I wondering if I only need this device if I’m only using it in my car. I was ordering both but now I’m alil confused, does this device basically turns my iPhone into a dap..
Which would be more recommended? BT5 or ifi GO blue or wait for the BTR7?
Looking for the same, confused weather to buy ifi go Blue or btr7 .
Also what the hell do the filters mean in the setting between fast and hybr f?
I use the earstudio mk2 thinking I wouldn't really use it but I fucking love it and already realize I need something more legit. I almost went balls to the wall and got a gryphon or a mojo but I think I might dial back and get a btr5 or 7. I still want zmfs this year.
Keep it. I have used many, but earstudio was the first and nobody has really beat it for the money. 5K, BTR3, BTR5, Zerda. For $80 keep using it!
I *know* FiiO makes amazing, small devices that sound very good for the price. As a student, FiiO was the company to go to for affordable entry-level HIFI gear. Now I can afford a bit more, and I wish that you had also used a Chord Mojo for comparison, because if you usually think "mobile HIFI DAC AMP", you think Chord Mojo.
Qudelix 5K is a far better deal and quality.
Chord is overpriced as fuck for what it delivers. It’s a brand for audifools pretending.
The mojo is an expensive excuse for legacy audiophiles to compare it to everything, biased thinking the mojo is the better of the comparison.
Chord is hot garbage.
Have any of the people below used the Chord mojo 2, I have several small dac.amp. bt devices inc, fiio, the btr5 and over usb as much as I love them the mojo 2 is in a completely different league, I have yet to try goldbar gold or standard or the phone from ifi but for my nomadic usage usb wired anyway, mojo 2 has far better well everything musically