I seldom comment but have to say I’ve been binging Stacey’s documentaries - she is such a warm, engaging interviewer. It makes watching these so enjoyable! Almost like having a tea with a friend. Keep it up Stacey!
The energy of ALL of them was so beautiful, genuine, warm, open, welcoming and loving! I realized I had been smiling the whole way through the episode because their energy is just so exquisite.
That dad is an example for parents everywhere. You dont have to fully grasp everything about your child's life to respect them, love them, and welcome in their chosen family.
especially when there were secrets and probably lies within that dad's relationships, dalliances. (as daughter said, we're having it all out in the open -it's far more honest and straightforward way to live. People being judgemental might consider just how many couples live part of their lives behind the other's back as long as they are not found out.
Honestly if people in general were more like this we would have a much more peaceful world. We don't have to understand everything to respect each other's choices.
Only now have I stumbled upon Stacey. I find HER more interesting than the subject at hand. Very bright and communicative - even if she does drop the odd 'H'. Stacey could make a compelling interviewer. Must do some research. The whole 45mins was fascenating. Loved it Stacey. Thank you from Germany.
@@sabrinaartiaga3391 In her accent, some of the "h's" at the beginning of words aren't pronounced, so that "help" will sound like " 'elp" etc. He's saying she's bright and communicative "even if" she has an accent associated with a working class background. Just a little dash of classism to season the compliment, I guess.
Having thought I was in a 24 year monogamous marriage and found out that my husband was cheating I am now re evaluating everything. Firstly I am now divorced. Because of the lying alone. He always would be jealous when other men paid me attention, something I wasn't comfortable with it but to be such a hypocrite. And I can say truly that I now see I was not loved, or cherished. I was coveted. I had utility for his career. Who am I to tell others how to live and love? At least they have honesty. And love cannot exist when suffocated with a blanket of lies.
You said you were not comfortable with him being jealous when other men paid you attention. Granted men will pay attention to just any woman above average but still, reality is that most married women out there do, to varying extents, project themselves to garner male attention even if they do not plan to cheat. We all know what happens in the workplaces afterall.15 years ago researchers showed that more than 40% of married women not only try actively to garner male attention but they really entertain back up plans in case their marriage goes south. And very often when the back up plans are too good, they themselves undermine the marriage, cheating directly, or just working against their husband to provoke an "amicable" split so as to then get on with the "better plan". Also very often quite some of the men that go on to cheat after 10+ years of marriage do so explicitly for sex, precisely because their wives are not providing enough sex to them. Female sex drive drops precipitously in 9 out of 10 marriages after the first 5 years and childbirths, hence the ubiquitous "7 years" crisis. I am not saying that this is necessarily the case of you and your husband but what happens statistically out there follows along these lines. The men that are the proverbial cheaters are less than 10% of the male population since anyway only about a 5% of the overall male population is attractive enough to entertain multiple options and to be able to cheat, relatively always, undetected. It is far easier for a substandard unattractive fat wife to cheat undetected rather than for a wealthy, super-attractive, top-5% married husband. With the aforementioned I do not condone husbands' cheating. It is just that these are facts of life today. While there are problematic men that make problematic husbands, the underlying reality is that the demise of the institution of marriage is almost entirely caused by women today, not men.
They are not honest. They are lying to themselves. They will never have complete trust. I am sorry your marriage was a lie because of your husband. The only way a marriage could have love is to put the other person first. I have been married for 25 years in a beautiful marriage. Watching this makes it obvious to me that these people will never experience the joy that comes from a loving monogamous marriage.
She's like an old person in a young person's body, with those little idioms she says all the time. Hilarious. She's got charisma for days and a real knack for connection.
Stacey talking about being jelly about her dog and the pan to the elderly pup. 😅😅 perfect. As a married woman in a polyamorous throuple I want to thank you for this video and for approaching with open heart ❤️
I think it's interesting he doesn't want his child to experience a broken home but he's comfortable having people come in and out of his Child's life. To all the replies: Thank you all for opening my eyes! To clarify I wasn’t stating my opinion, rather, I was just sharing a thought. I think people should live their lives however they want! I do now see this family from a different perspective based on the responses. As people have pointed out, people will usually have others come in and out of a child’s life, no matter what the parents romantic situation is. However, I do still think this situation is slightly different as the third partner is living in the home and I don’t know if that’s the best thing for a child. Again, not super firm on this opinion and am open to others thoughts. What do others think? :) I 🫶🏻 open discussions!
Kids need their parents/primary care givers to be reliably there for them. The rest is just additional adults caring. It`s the same as if they would have an Au Pair living with them for a time or friends of the family living with. Kids don`t care about romance between adults, they care if they get support when they need it.
9:44 If your wife has a boyfriend, and she is devastated (which means she was in love with that boyfriend) when they break up, you are not the center of her heart. And as you have your girlfriend as well, the same is true of you. These folks are just like the aristocrats of old who married and then agreed to have mistresses and lovers on the side. This isn't new, it's very old. They share a home, and have mutual parentage responsibilities, but their emotional engagement with each other is probably more like a "friends with benefits" arrangement. They seem amiable people, but it's likely they may not know devotion.
Absolutely true. It must be awful ( for me, it would be devastating) if your partner has a relationship with another person. To then watch them , totally devastated, after breaking up with that person must be soul destroying. I could never 'share' my husband with anyone. Nor he, me. We made Marriage Vows to be " faithful unto each other" , and we adore each other, above all else in this World. That's how marriage should be...he holds my heart in his hands
@jacqueline8559 It may not be for you but it doesn't mean that they aren't happy and don't have a loving relationship with each other. I'm confused about how confused you are about this.^^
No - its not. I was into swinging with my ex and LOVED seeing her getting it with other guys. But when it got "emotional" and she fell for someone else, well - that was the beginning of the end.
@@rolsson1693 Because they want to. This isn't an ironclad rigidly defined role. The last thing Stacey said in the video was that their relationship is fluid.
People are capable of higher emotional intelligence in polyamoury. It's possible to be sad eithout it affecting every corner and facet of your life and other relationships @mrshonourable
Wow !!! love staceys documentaries.. love to meet her in real life n have a cup of tea and a long chat with her... . As a bloke its wierd that i get a fuzzy nice feeling from watching these heart warming and mind opening docs that suprisingly show me that even if I don't think that I would live the way the prople in the docs do, that I can still see other peoples choices and ways of life without automatically judging or criticising them. Surely it should be considered an asset to be able to see others and their lives and focus not on our differences but on our similarities??!!❤
Well put! @ashleydixon8671 Here's to more humans opening minds and hearts beyond judgement, able to slip into another's "shoes"...at least for a touch of empathy, humanity ~
I get it that it works for the adults; and, although it's not for me, I don't judge them for it; but, I wonder how it feels for their son to get so attached to Nicole and then she leaves? That was never discussed although I think it's an important factor, considering your child's feelings as well. I'd like to see a follow-up with this family in 10 years.
I was wondering the same. I could be an "aunt" feeling or even an extra caretaker because, for kids, there is no "not normal" until they grow up and understand what was actually going on.
That is a good point. But it's important to keep in mind this is just one situation. There are many very long term poly families, and even in this case, they may stay in touch. It's not like she's disappearing off the face of the earth, though yeah Australia is far, but that also shows this is an exceptional situation.
And I do not agree with singling out poly families like so many of these comments are trying to do. I know of fundamentalist families that raised such foolish ridiculous mentality and dysfunction the adult kids turned on the parents with greed over land many family members aunts uncles siblings no longer talk to each other or saw the others' kids after seeing the kids previously growing up. I know because that's my "family." But yet no one makes these inane comments about the fundamentalist families that have the same issues or even worse issues because of nothing but just perception and just because anyone doing anything different at all completely blows their mind
My son and his wife got into this lifestyle and they explained it as having so much love that it was easy to share with others. All that was asked of each other was to be open and honest before ever being with another. Surprise they are now divorced, because my son cheated on his wife. He had sex with someone without telling his wife. TRUST WAS BROKEN! I am not sure this can last over the long haul.
If my bf had sex with someone else I'd feel really betrayed, it doesn't have anything to do with seeing your partner as your "property", love is a two-way street.
My mate of 41 years was in a swinger marraige.. He had to know his wife was was fine, at all times and wanted her to enjpy herself only then could he go off a party or club with another woman to enjoy himself. They began this adventure whenhis best friend's wife he had known all his life walked out he was very depressed. They decided she should offer to cheer him up that there WOULD be other women who wted and enjoyed him. It was the first nontraditional experiemce any of them had...it worked out fine so they tried other things etc etc. I met him after he was divorced...I was widowed we both were in our 30s. AIDS was raging and I had zero interest in such a lifestyle. So we never did. He ws plenty for me and I certainly did not judge him. I was the luckiest of women to have him pretty sure he felt lucky too...we never married he cpuld have walked out any day...I liked the idea we both had options but chose each other over anyone else. Men would hit on me...uh no thanks. He died at 80 last year....I am grateful to have had him.
Well, some people have the ability to love more than one, others don't. Fortunately those who have the ability will never force those who don't have it to still adapt to the polyamory lifestyle, so you're probably going to be just fine.
I like Stacey, but yeah she's biased. She's "open and tolerant" to this lifestyle, but turns her nose down to the "tradwife" lifestyle...and TOTALLY JUDGES them. She also called the "tradwife" brainwashed.
It's wild that Stacey acts more accepting, and way less judgmental in this situation than with the wealthy people. She claims to be so open, but has some massive prejudices herself. Also, no one else but this "throuple" has asked her to get a lap dance at a sex party, but somehow the conservatives are offensive?
She’s not though. When she spends time with more conservative people she expresses a lot more prejudice. If the point is to meet real people who live different lives, the goal should be to treat them the same. This episode specifically, she seems to go out of her way to praise their lives and show interest and how positive it is. If she’s going to be biased the show premise should reflect that. Not claim that it’s just a regular woman visiting all different types of people, the good and the bad.
I like Stacey, but yeah she's biased. She's "open and tolerant" to this lifestyle, but turns her nose down to the "tradwife" lifestyle...and TOTALLY JUDGES them. She also called the "tradwife" brainwashed.
Agree. My husband and I absolutely fulfil every need for each other, and have done for 37 years, since we met at aged 19. ( we've been married for nearly 34 years) Neither of us has been tempted by another person, No one else could ever fill his shoes , for me. He tells me and shows me , every day , just how much he loves me.
and funny their polyamorous reports on agreement of open relationships always have another woman in the equation but not a man aka 2 men with the wife . It only works for the men, women don't want it and they go along with their crazy low IQ husband that they chose to marry .
Their experience is much like the poly couple i know personally. I find it so strange how open Stacey is to the lifestyle compared to how judgemental and confrontation she has been with other families. This would have been a great opportunity for her to discuss her own biases. Cathy doesn't seem weird to me in contrast to the other comments. She seems like she's really interested in a relationship with a woman but doesn't want to give up the stability and😮 familiarity with her husband. I really like Thomas and it seems to me the poly lifestyle was Cathy's idea that he went along with to make her happy.
I think the reason she's more judgemental about other families is that there is usually some element of hurting others with their lifestyle; Tradwives are anti-feminist, family vloggers exploit their kids for money, rich people buying big cats to live in captivity their entire lives, whereas polyamory is about loving each other and others. I know some poly families and while it's not for me, this is an accurate representation of poly life. They're not hurting anyone so what is there to be judgemental and confrontation about? I find Stacey only gets judgemental and confrontational when there is something to confront and I don't see adults choosing to share their beds with other consenting adults to be something that needs to be confronted or judged.
Seems to me some who are judgmental of Stacey having thoughts and opinions which may challenge those she's willing and open minded enough to spend a few days immersing herself in their environment, may confuse having open, honest, perhaps challenging dialogue, with closed minded and non-evidence based opinions based solely on prior biasesor wishing to be "right". For example, I recall the after chat of the wealthy man with wild cats & Stacey clearly stated she'd thought he was going to be one way but after spending time around him, she was changed about him, if not about his choice to disregard his community's concerns for their safety.
Yes she was hugely judgemental on the couple who did not vaccinate their kids & yet she is happy with this set up with a 7 year old child in the house !
@Miss_ESL you could argue that the children are hurt when people come in and out of their life. How are trad wives hurting feminists? Isn't feminism about choice?
Having a group sx painting in a living room with a 7-year-old is not mildly but wildly inappropriate. While all of them seem nice, I don't think any of these relationships will last.
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
@@brobinson8614 I'm not saying he doesn't get enough attention, or they don't love him. I said sx paintings are not for kids. But also, having people move in and out the house, because parents have their temporary open relationship partners, is not healthy for a child either. In addition to that seeing your parents not he loyal to one another must be scary.
@@natalien.9528 So like having nannies or boarders moving in or out, same same. You are just making up excuses because to you its not normal. but theres tribes around the world that have multiple partners. Its part of nature
@@brobinson8614 yes having a nanny move out is difficult for children. But the nanny was at least there to take care of the child when the parents couldn't. Polygamy is Hedonism. Monogamy is and was the order of the day in any successful civilization. It's the first step into culture, leaving the fleshly animal nature behind. It's the basis of any functional society. You're right, the early humans might have screwed around, but it wasn't beneficial to forming societies, that's why they stopped.
@@natalien.9528 monogamy is monotonous though. Most partners are thinking of someone at work while the have sex with their partner. Thats living a lie. These people found the perfect solution to it all
I know of way too many couples who live “traditionally” & are secretly miserable to judge these people lol. Many projections on this comment section,also divorce rates are quite telling. Love the transparency of this arrangement. Not for me but to each their own.
One thing I’ve learned as I’ve seen alternative sexual lifestyles is once someone leaves a monogamous marriage between a man and a woman, they have left the true purpose of marriage, which is unity and selflessness, charity and love. It then becomes about personal sexual desires. And once someone has turned from marriage between a man and a woman, sexual boundaries are completely fluid and can turn more sinister, even reaching .pdf ilia.
I've noticed polyamory is a short term option. It doesn't seem to be a life long venture. More of a period of time. Listen, I'm not saying it means anything if something is temporary (as everything ultimately is). It's just interesting. I think polyamory is great. People get to explore without deception. As long as the couples have good communication and boundaries. It's better than all these folks pretending to be monogamous cheating on their partners. It should be an open discussion. I personally am super monogamous (my whole life). But I love that people have a socially acceptable avenue to explore and be themselves. Love is love and there isn't one correct way to experience it.
I couldn’t agree more. I’m totally the monogamous type but if you’re going to step out, at least do it respectfully and honestly. I respect these relationships for that.
Some people have done it for decades... I think it's short term if people are entering because they are trying to hold on to a failing relationship though
@@debbiequack Sure of course it's the bully who does wrong. But it would have been better to keep him out of this. Kids can't consent to being on the internet, so they should not be on the internet. Not in this case or never.
I also wouldn't allow him to be videod. Maybe the school is supersuppprtive. I knew a trans person once who went and spoke to their sons school and the teachers managed the classroom to make sure he didn't get bullied. But I don't like the statements made previously that the kid knows all about his parents sex life bc they don't have sex in front of him any more than a monogamous couple would. We also have to be aware that the 'your kids will be bullied' argument was used also to discourage interracial and gay marriages/adoption.
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
The feeling of excitement for your partner or partners having other romantic attachments is called compersion. Compersion is actually just the opposite of jealousy and anyone can experience this emotion: Envy: Wishing to have something you don't have but you know someone else has. Jealousy: Being upset when someone else's joy doesn't come from yourself. Compersion: Being happy for someone's experience of joy regardless of the source of that joy. Examples: Envy: You want the Tesla that Sarah has. Jealousy: Sarah buys a Tesla and she is more excited about buying her Tesla than she was about the Gucci purse you gave her for Christmas so you feel she's unappreciative and it's not fair that she likes the Tesla more. Compersion: Sarah likes the Gucci purse, but she's more excited about the Tesla she's buying. You don't take it personally and are just happy that Sarah likes the present you gave her and are also happy that she's excited about buying her Tesla. Everyone can experience any or all of these emotions, not everyone experiences them all nor at the same intensity, but it ranges per person. Monoamorous people naturally experience more jealousy and envy when it comes to their romantic relationships. Polyamorous people tend to experience more compersion in romantic relationships. Ambiamorous or other amorous people can experience a range of these emotions depending on the person, situation, or intensity of their emotions. This is why polyamory is actually called a relationship orientation (yes, it's an orientation) because you're feelings are based on your values and what feels best for you and often this can be developed in childhood. As she described, polyamorous people experience natural compersion and excitement for partners and we have always been that way since childhood. It effects how we love in all relationships, not just romantic ones. We can feel this compersion with multiple friends, siblings, parents, and it extends to partners. It's important to understand this is a NATURAL emotion, not learned. Not everyone is or can be polyamorous, just as not everyone is or can be monoamorous. Not everyone experiences jealousy just as not everyone experiences compersion. Others may experience both or neither and at different intensities. Understanding this, if you have complete jealousy, then you can't fall in love with multiple people because your focus can only take one in a healthy manner. If you experience complete compersion, then it's difficult to focus that emotion onto one person. A person who experiences an experience in the middle of these emotions may have more control over how they can formulate relationships between one or more people, causing it to feel more like a choice (ambiamorous people). These emotions play a huge roll in someone's relationship orientation. This doesn't mean polyamorous people can't get jealous or monoamorous people can't feel compersion, it just means that jealousy comes more naturally for monoamorous people and compersion comes more naturally for polyamorous people. While too much jealousy is bad (you don't want to go as far as to own or control someone so they can't have friends or isolating them to just be around and do things with only you), only intense jealousy needs to be and can be worked on. Some jealousy can help with your boundaries. So, if you experience a healthy amount of jealousy and it's helping you keep up boundaries in your relationships, then keep at it. Don't listen to polyamorous people who say, "We just need to work on our jealousy." Often times, we think jealousy stems from insecurities and while it can (especially for polyamorous people where jealousy is unnatural until and unless trauma occurs), many polyamorous people tend to ignore the fact that jealousy can be natural even without trauma and that monoamorous people have it naturally. It's because it's telling you that something doesn't make you comfortable in the situation and as long as that emotion doesn't overstep other people's boundaries, then you are entitled to adhere to your jealousy. I'm not sure why polyamorous people ignore this as though we can understand what it's like to be monoamorous. All these emotions are valid just as all orientations are valid. Anyways, just thought I'd explain compersion, the relationship orientation spectrum a bit, and why we experience more compersion as well as why monoamorous people experience more jealousy.
I am confused. When asked about the marriage, they said it all happened so fast, but they have a 7 year old son and they have been married for 6 years ...???? This is not really complicated. These people have removed intimacy and love from sex and made sex into simply recreational activity. They say they watched their parents lie about things that they should not have been doing and it hurt them. So we will just do those wrong things out in the open and it will not hurt our child. 🤣🤣🤣
It's not just about sex though, they have a deep romantic relationship with another person... You are describing a whole other couple in this comments, definitely not the one in this video
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
@@marcsassenach that’s pretty cynical. Why can’t I make a comment And actually learned something. Be honest with you a little bit. Insulting to me. This is a great information that I didn’t know about. These are peoples lives. They agree to be filmed. Make a mockery of it. Don’t make a situation where there is no situation. I learned something. .You’re the one making the mockery. I’m the one trying to learn. I have my blessings for you. Just Try to be maybe a little less cynical, the person reporting has great courage. The people have much great courage. You sir, are drawing way too much negative attention.
Then, again, maybe I’m being a little bit more defensive and I need to be. I’m not being sarcastic. Honestly, I learned a lot. But I do not like the accusation one bit. First Glance Made me very angry. If that was insulting you. You have my apology.
Their son is fine?? Having multiple partners in a healthy relationship is a foreign idea to a lot of people, but children are very accepting once something is thoroughly explained to them.
@@bluetheangelofdeath I agree! Kids are fine with a lot of things that the adults try to teach them to feel ashamed of or hurt by. If we all acted more like children do around other children, there wold be a lot more love and acceptance in the world.
This gives me the creeps. Maybe, if you were used to this it wouldn’t affect you this way, but it gives me chills down my spine. I can see through the deception of this.
@@JENKEN425 They are. Who do you think is more likely to carry a condom, a polyamorous person going on a date or a monogamously married person going on a company conference?
It's a bit sad that in her questions Stacey only touched on the very superficial layer of such a relationship only trying to confirm or contradict the very stereo types discussed when talking about such relationships. Plus, it was too exclusively focused on the "the guy in Australia" aspect of this very particular throuple ...... I would have liked to hear more and better understand aspects such as: is this polyamory relationship primarily defined by the sexual aspects involved; how and where does emotional love come in and in which ways? What are the aspects that make you decide to cohibit thus sharing lives 24/7 instead of just meeting for dates? What requirements are necessary to ensure that the marriage does not get strained? Emotionally but also very pragmatically and concrete ..... In this episode, the aspect of jealousy or emotional struggles were nearly entirely negated, but in reality I know that it is an aspect that needs to be constructively dealt with through a lot of exchange and concrete agreements and plans. Also the aspect of dealing with the child was answered in a rather abstract manner with very little concrete plans and decisions being presented. I am not saying that they were not there, but it would have been interesting to dig deeper to get a better picture. All together, all of the people present seemed yery nice and positive with Cathy being visibly affected by the current state of events. I wish them all the best.
Yeah there is gonna be a lot of "getting even" like in the show White Lotus. Even couples are honest. There is always gonna be one side who is worse off sometimes. It then can build resentments tho they will not may show it.
It doesn't look as if the married couple really love each other or care very much about each other. They both seem to be in love with the Australian girl. Maybe they are just staying together for the sake of their son.
I think they are not in love with each other anymore but the house and the kid keeps them together and so they have and open relationship. This is not polyamory. This is a marriage that is over and they are still friends and don't want to sell the house or have the boy home only half of the time. And they love sex. That's it. And the woman is an attention seeker and is madly in love with the red head. And the red head is leaving for another man. This so called marriage will fall apart eventually.
Really yucky energy here. The real truth is that, while all people have free will and are able to make a choice about what kind of relationship they have, there is only one true relationship meant for each of us and that is with our soulmate. This concept is so terrifying to many people that the mere mention of is sends them into a rage, because there is a lot of terror about not having control about our very humaneness, having to surrender to the fact that we are as we are, that we have an eternal soul and that God exists. But after the tantrum about it, feeling all the grief and fear, when surrender comes, you realize it's the single most fulfilling thing in life, beyond anything except our relationship with God. There is this one person that is all the things we never knew we needed and wanted and is so perfectly suited for us because we literally share a soul. When someone says something like, "I've always noticed I'm turned on by other women being attracted to my man," there are deep emotional injuries from childhood that have not been felt. One does not become a 15 year old runaway and sexworker because they're "independent." On the scale of dysfunctional behavior, it is on the far end of the continuum. It's astounding how unaware everyone in this family is of just basic psychology, or that they came from parents who cheated or that this is in fact not working for them, or that making a whole show about their intimate relationship may have a strong backlash on their young child when others start talking to him about it. Absolutely clueless. To be so detuned from that grief, shame and fear that it turns into pathology of this level takes a profound suppression of emotion. It is a powerful use of free will in the wrong direction that will produce pain and suffering the likes of which this young couple cannot even fathom yet. The damage to other, most notably their child will be epic and will take even more work now to heal the unloving choice they have made. If you feel attracted to these things, stop and feel into the pain beneath it all. It will be well worth it.
I agree with every word you've wrote. Every single one. I've got exactly the same observations from basic psychology (dysfunctions and pathologies) to God. They are living in a fantasy (trauma driven) and unaware of what is coming their way. Consequences will be extremely painful and ugly.
It was beautiful energy. The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference If you have issue with emotional neglect go protest outside a child care centre, thats where children learn they aren't loved
@@brobinson8614 You are only seeing the superficial, just because this woman is all smiley and huggy, the relationship was clearly broken and the hypersexuality screams sexual abuse survivor. It's really sleazy, actually. You simply will not prevent passing those same emotional injuries onto your child unless or until you heal them.
@@TrueWalker88 utter nonsense, Its practiced in cultures around the world, gone on since for millennium. Get you head out of this fictional abuse gutter you just made up. Dear lord your comment is the worst I've read in 2024. In fact I bet it will remain the most ridiculous all year
@@brobinson8614 You are very deluded and unwilling to feel your own grief and terror of the truth you know deep down to be true - that there is one soulmate for each person. This makes you feel like you have no control, or scared that your shame will be too much for someone else. Just the thought of it triggers so much pain in you that you shut down over and over and over, and each time you take another step down the path of rebellion and cynicism, so that you end up with this very distorted belief structure that it far from truth, love, morality and peace. You know it's true, don't shoot the messenger. Just go process that before reacting.
I really don't get it personally, but I respect it in that they seem to be very respectful of one another and caring and all are okay with it. That's what is most important.
If you want to avoid skin to skin contact you'll have to avoid people in general. No handshakes, no travelling by bus, no concerts, and so on. Boring life!
The wife seems off to me… she comes across quite narcissistic/insecure. Her husband always has a look of discomfort when talking about their situation.
yes! shes def got some bad vibes. we cant judge to much maybe stacey had said something she didnt like, a lot of editing is done and so much gets cut out. But i do think she has a weird vibe, like shes being competed with and shes just accepted it..
I didn’t pick up on any of this. I thought everyone seemed very genuine. But maybe I’m biased because I’m also polyamorous. When I get asked the same questions over and over I can get a bit annoyed.
I felt Cathy had deeply fallen in love with Nicole. She's hurting because she knows she's found a guy she has deeper feelings for. I reckon, in a choice between Thomas and Nicole, Thomas would be out on his ear ! She was quiet, every time the talk turned to her Aussie boyfriend. The fact Nicole no longer slept with Thomas, because this other guy was in the picture, showed the chains between the 3 were slackening ( she felt sleeping with women was not being 'unfaithful' to her new guy)
I actually find this couple to be extremely facetious. These types of relationships are pretty selfish. They benefit the married couple but not the third person at all. It’s completely sexual in nature.
Who says the 3rd person isn't benefitting? This lifestyle isn't for me in the slightest, but to say the 3rd person doesn't benefit at all and that everyone is just being selfish means you have completely missed everything that was said. If the 3rd person wanted to be in a monogamous relationship,. they would be. They're not looking for that 1 person to be with for the rest of their lives. They get plenty of affection, both sexual and non, without needing to feel completely tied down to only 1 person. When the wife spoke of just snuggling on the couch watching TV, that shows you that this ISNT completely sexual in nature. And one could say the married couple are perhaps less selfish than a traditional relationship. They are open to allowing their partner to have other experiences and discover more about themselves, rather than being jealous, which IS a selfish emotion. Maybe you should rewatch thr episode? I think your biases are shining pretty brightly and have gotten in the way of you trying to understand what they are saying and where they are coming from.
I wonder what their childhoods were like, and what they're overcompensating for. Also, if kids are in the picture, this changes things. Also, when his wife is wooed by a smoking hot guy who is rich, he may change his mind. This is too much of a power struggle.
I know a throuple with 4 kids and have watched their kids grow up. They're all in college now and doing great. In a liberal area, when the kids go to schools where kids are taught to accept different types of families, it doesn't have to be a big deal. The parents are celebrating their 14th anniversary as a throuple soon. They've always been exclusive between the three of them though, no going out and picking up strangers.
She did move out. He learns not to get attached to people. That's why his parents have chosen to stay together "no matter what". It happens with kids who live with single parents. Moms can have many boyfriends over time, etc.
This would bother me less if there wasn’t a child involved. Like do what you want but if there’s a kid, they need stability, not people coming and going and confusion. This poor kid
I worked as an Au Pair for a year. I was living with the family, the kids waking me up in the morning to start my day with them and me being there and playing with them even in my free time on some weekends, being a part of the family. Before me they had two other Au Pairs, each staying with the family for a year and leaving after that. Do you think that was less stability and confusing for the kids?
@@anthill1510 I think an au pair is a very different thing than a romantic partner. Kids can tell the difference and are going to be well aware of the relational dynamic going on in their home. Just ask any kid (now adult) who has experienced divorcing parents and then a stepparent moving in. It’s not easy or ideal for kids. I experienced this and it sucked. I realize divorce is very common and millions of kids deal with this and survive, but the research shows breaking up a family is hard on children. People coming and going from a home like in this video would likely have some of the same effects as divorce on a child.
The world is already a confusing place. All a child needs to do is step outside the door to school and that is evident. They have said and showed how they protect him and love him, what more do you want of them.
@@warpig50 Exactly why make his life confusing with strangers coming in and out when the parents get the urge? He will feel very different than his peers as this is not a common thing, the majority of his friends would have a typical nuclear family, which is in my opinion healthier for a child.
@@kermitthefrog2311 That is the past. Where the world is going this sort of relationship will be acceptable and normal. So at least he is prepared to view things differently. The typical nuclear family can also be just as bad or confusing so it isn't a guarantee of stability either.
They also aren't teaching their child self-sacrifice. What it is to put everything else above yourself. I think that is what's wrong in "Western" culture.
Life is too short to be sacrificing yourself every day. This isn't a one time sacrifice which we all have to take- It's sacrificing in a monogamy for years and carrying that cross when you could be honest with yourself and your partner. I don't know what that child will learn. But in the world to come he will be best prepared.
Wouldn't it be nice if you were with someone who treats you like a princess, will share intimate moments only both of you do and is not willing to share you with everybody?
Given that more than half of marriages fail. And that we can assume a huge majority of those marriages are traditional ones .. what would them breaking up prove?
They seen so happy and content with their life! I don't know how and why people get so mad about adults living their lifes how they wanna...as long as its legal and consensual that all good!
@@elisaduarte3604 I understand that but the values of marriage is forsaking all others. This is not a marriage and I have the right to my opinion ty what is the point of marrying someone so you can keep cheating on them? Its fine just don’t get married and then bring children in a world where it’s ok when your married to sleep with anything.
The absence of monogamy leaves them bereft of love and commitment. Sex is fun. Sex with many partners is more fun. Having the most fun is not the same as having love.
Experimenting is all i think of this three way relationship. Its the surface level attraction and being turned on by one another they are confusing with commitment and real feelings. Often a denial of your authentic self because it brings up too many painful memories. Promiscuity has its roots in trauma. The child is the sad victim who didn't invite this. Hope he grows up happy and not confused about love if he chooses monogamy.
This type of relationship seems like it’s very time consuming, why add chaos to your life, I don’t see how they get the time to do this extra relationship stuff esp when they have a child, and work. It must take time away from their marriage. ???
Did you watch the video? If you think that was chaos, lord knows what you'd think of real chaos. I've come across many more "normal" families which are truly chaotic
Of course it is time consuming. But so is football practice, going for a jog, shopping with your friends, visiting Aunt Sally, and so on. People do have lives outside of their marriage, and they should! Imagine being attached to your spouse 24/7! That, if anything, would be unhealthy.
I don’t know how Stacey manages to stay over at peoples houses like that. I can stay with friends and family like that but I’d either need a bedroom with ensuite at a strangers place, or I’d have to stay in a hotel.
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
The guys seems more into the red head that his wife (have seen any affection from him to his wife throughout), red head seems more into the wife emotionally but into the guy sexually, wife seems like she could want monogamy, but doesn’t wanna have a broken home.
The parents don't love eachother they are just using eachother , the other girl seems just young and nieve and they child will absolutely be truamatised in my opinion.
Not sure this is about love so much as lust. Nicole moves out and the other two are immediately screwing other people. The cycle never slows down. This lifestyle is certainly an option for good-looking people who have very high sex drives and the need to have new, frequent (or just extra) partners. Like randy teenagers. Is that love though? And does it show unselfish maturity considering there's a child in the house? Also, that artwork above the couch... that little boy is growing up and will be embarrassed bringing friends home. (Side question: does he? I worry about the kids in these situations.) I find it all a bit narcissistic and self-involved, that's just my opinion... but hey it's the internet.
Personally I dislike the way Stacey is very kind and says things like "fascinating" "amazing" when they are explaining how their relationships work, but when I saw the documentary about the trad wife, she was more condescending most of the time... Sad how we have lost common morals and values...
None of them looks particularly happy, even if that's what they claim, and it seems to me there's impending doom written all over this nonsensical lifestyle.
Spoken like a true priest that has been shown there is only one way to live life. In this little bit of interview you can see all this and know this is not good for them huhhh. Wow you must have great brain powers like a god lolll. More like envy then anything else.
@@mikep4823 There's nothing to envy in the contents presented above. Perhaps that's just your projection. Something to think about. Not that your reply merits an answer.
Nothing better than marriage, one man and one women, who love each other exclusively. Only sorry that some don't find that. How could someone ever respect a man who would not want his women all to himself and loves and respects her. They are out there ladies.
This lifestyle is incredibly selfish. It's prioritizing sex and excitement above all other values in life. It certainly isn't in the best interest of their child.
This could function, when both parts of the couple are truly open-minded, truly love and respect each other and somehow intelligent to know, that they can put a limit when sexual pleasure turns into love that might destroy the existing relationship. If all these factors exist, this can function in theory, otherwise, it would risk existing relationship.
I don't have a problem with this but i must be truful, it feels a bit off... fake on the other side. I mean not fake documentary but fake "love", fake feelings
We are doomed as a society ....Young people think that everything that can is permitted, but there are reasons we invited marriage! It was for the safety of children! And think about what happens if Nicole gets cancer of MS...are they going to take care of her? We should go back to old family structures.....this makes me sick. Yes, they seem so normal and nice...
Yes, they married each other because they want to have a marriage realtionship, which includes taking care of your partner when they get sick. Having sex with other people doesn`t keep you from caring for your sick partner?!
@@Jannette-mw7fg Why does having sex with somebody else keep somebody from caring for their sick partner? Do you have experience with that? I don`t lnow what you mean with "full time"? A man having "full time sex" doesn`t actually take a lot of time, so what are you talkig about?
@@anthill1510 Don't be daft! Or pretend to be so. Having an intimate relationship with another person will automatically keep you from being able to take care of your ill spouse or child!
I seldom comment but have to say I’ve been binging Stacey’s documentaries - she is such a warm, engaging interviewer. It makes watching these so enjoyable! Almost like having a tea with a friend. Keep it up Stacey!
Well said. Had a day off today, totally binge watched throughout....day well spent 😅
…and she’s brutally honest! Refreshing!
Me tooLol
She’s a bit woke and naive, but also sharp witted and intelligent. I’m 50/50 with her.
I love her style of interviewing as well♥️❤️💯
The energy of ALL of them was so beautiful, genuine, warm, open, welcoming and loving! I realized I had been smiling the whole way through the episode because their energy is just so exquisite.
Too much focus on sex... There are so many beautiful things to share in life. Your genitals shouldn't be one of them. Poor kid must be confused, too
I CRINGE. THE STDS COULD BE NUMEROUS.
@@JENKEN425 Welcome to 2024 and not 1856! LOL Do you actually believe that these people aren't tested before venturing outside the house?? LOL Grow up
@@flashflame4952 u make no sense.
@@JENKEN425 LOL and you have no common sense or logic LMAOOOOO
That dad is an example for parents everywhere. You dont have to fully grasp everything about your child's life to respect them, love them, and welcome in their chosen family.
especially when there were secrets and probably lies within that dad's relationships, dalliances. (as daughter said, we're having it all out in the open -it's far more honest and straightforward way to live. People being judgemental might consider just how many couples live part of their lives behind the other's back as long as they are not found out.
Honestly if people in general were more like this we would have a much more peaceful world. We don't have to understand everything to respect each other's choices.
Nicole has figured out free rent in London
Bulls eye! 😂
@@vg82Your mom, probably.
@@karadiberlino how childish
NICOLE SEEMS MORE INTO THOMAS THAN CATHERINE.
😂
They are crazy handsome and seem really committed to understanding their feelings and interactions. So good for them!
THIS MARRIED COUPLE IS ATTRACTIVE YES, BUT THIS IS VERYSELFISH. THERE IS A CHILD INVOLVED.
@@JENKEN425 I would argue that having a child is always selfish
Only now have I stumbled upon Stacey. I find HER more interesting than the subject at hand. Very bright and communicative - even if she does drop the odd 'H'. Stacey could make a compelling interviewer. Must do some research. The whole 45mins was fascenating. Loved it Stacey. Thank you from Germany.
She’s extremely talented at what she does! I see her having a brilliant future.
I love her accent!
Whats the odd H?
What’s the odd h?
What's the odd H?
@@sabrinaartiaga3391 In her accent, some of the "h's" at the beginning of words aren't pronounced, so that "help" will sound like " 'elp" etc. He's saying she's bright and communicative "even if" she has an accent associated with a working class background. Just a little dash of classism to season the compliment, I guess.
Having thought I was in a 24 year monogamous marriage and found out that my husband was cheating I am now re evaluating everything. Firstly I am now divorced. Because of the lying alone. He always would be jealous when other men paid me attention, something I wasn't comfortable with it but to be such a hypocrite. And I can say truly that I now see I was not loved, or cherished. I was coveted. I had utility for his career. Who am I to tell others how to live and love? At least they have honesty. And love cannot exist when suffocated with a blanket of lies.
Those moments when he was jealous he was projecting
You said you were not comfortable with him being jealous when other men paid you attention. Granted men will pay attention to just any woman above average but still, reality is that most married women out there do, to varying extents, project themselves to garner male attention even if they do not plan to cheat. We all know what happens in the workplaces afterall.15 years ago researchers showed that more than 40% of married women not only try actively to garner male attention but they really entertain back up plans in case their marriage goes south. And very often when the back up plans are too good, they themselves undermine the marriage, cheating directly, or just working against their husband to provoke an "amicable" split so as to then get on with the "better plan". Also very often quite some of the men that go on to cheat after 10+ years of marriage do so explicitly for sex, precisely because their wives are not providing enough sex to them. Female sex drive drops precipitously in 9 out of 10 marriages after the first 5 years and childbirths, hence the ubiquitous "7 years" crisis. I am not saying that this is necessarily the case of you and your husband but what happens statistically out there follows along these lines. The men that are the proverbial cheaters are less than 10% of the male population since anyway only about a 5% of the overall male population is attractive enough to entertain multiple options and to be able to cheat, relatively always, undetected. It is far easier for a substandard unattractive fat wife to cheat undetected rather than for a wealthy, super-attractive, top-5% married husband. With the aforementioned I do not condone husbands' cheating. It is just that these are facts of life today. While there are problematic men that make problematic husbands, the underlying reality is that the demise of the institution of marriage is almost entirely caused by women today, not men.
You rarely comment? You should more often. Your comment reads like poetry. If I do so say myself 🤌🏽
They are not honest. They are lying to themselves. They will never have complete trust. I am sorry your marriage was a lie because of your husband. The only way a marriage could have love is to put the other person first. I have been married for 25 years in a beautiful marriage. Watching this makes it obvious to me that these people will never experience the joy that comes from a loving monogamous marriage.
I wonder why it’s called cheating, could it be that you are taking love that is owed to your spouse and giving it to someone else?
Love how Stacey is so open and respectful, shes a riot
She's like an old person in a young person's body, with those little idioms she says all the time. Hilarious. She's got charisma for days and a real knack for connection.
I couldn't do it. Some if these people she spends time with are sooooo cringy
@@merricat3025 Srsly.
She didn't care for the cat's name...
Left us hanging with the cats name !!!
Lol
Yup, noticed that as well. The most charismatic and important character was left in the corner.
😂
And it's such a pretty one! 😿
A thruple with a neglected pussycat😂 How ironic!
Stacey talking about being jelly about her dog and the pan to the elderly pup. 😅😅 perfect. As a married woman in a polyamorous throuple I want to thank you for this video and for approaching with open heart ❤️
What a character Stacey is. And I adore Wilbur and Harley ❤
Thanks!
I am so offended that the cat didn't get a name!
KITTY IS CUTE.
I think it's interesting he doesn't want his child to experience a broken home but he's comfortable having people come in and out of his Child's life.
To all the replies:
Thank you all for opening my eyes! To clarify I wasn’t stating my opinion, rather, I was just sharing a thought. I think people should live their lives however they want! I do now see this family from a different perspective based on the responses. As people have pointed out, people will usually have others come in and out of a child’s life, no matter what the parents romantic situation is. However, I do still think this situation is slightly different as the third partner is living in the home and I don’t know if that’s the best thing for a child. Again, not super firm on this opinion and am open to others thoughts. What do others think? :)
I 🫶🏻 open discussions!
I agree with you.
people come in and out of lives from cradle to grave ....
As long as the primary carers are stable it should be fine
Kids need their parents/primary care givers to be reliably there for them. The rest is just additional adults caring. It`s the same as if they would have an Au Pair living with them for a time or friends of the family living with. Kids don`t care about romance between adults, they care if they get support when they need it.
@@anthill1510 honestly a great point. Never thought of it that way.
Very kind people all around. Stacey looks like she will be back to chill and get foot rubs😊
omg the laugh i had when nicole walked through the door! stacey and her look so alike! what a fun episode
9:44 If your wife has a boyfriend, and she is devastated (which means she was in love with that boyfriend) when they break up, you are not the center of her heart. And as you have your girlfriend as well, the same is true of you. These folks are just like the aristocrats of old who married and then agreed to have mistresses and lovers on the side. This isn't new, it's very old.
They share a home, and have mutual parentage responsibilities, but their emotional engagement with each other is probably more like a "friends with benefits" arrangement. They seem amiable people, but it's likely they may not know devotion.
Ty 🙌
Andrea, What does "Ty" mean?@@Drea62621
Absolutely true. It must be awful ( for me, it would be devastating) if your partner has a relationship with another person. To then watch them , totally devastated, after breaking up with that person must be soul destroying. I could never 'share' my husband with anyone. Nor he, me. We made Marriage Vows to be " faithful unto each other" , and we adore each other, above all else in this World. That's how marriage should be...he holds my heart in his hands
@jacqueline8559 It may not be for you but it doesn't mean that they aren't happy and don't have a loving relationship with each other. I'm confused about how confused you are about this.^^
That's a good thing isn't it? He has your heart.....and you have his. @@jacqueline8559 👍
Polyamory is not the same as an "open" marriage.
And its also not the same as swinging.
It's not trivial differences.
No - its not. I was into swinging with my ex and LOVED seeing her getting it with other guys. But when it got "emotional" and she fell for someone else, well - that was the beginning of the end.
Polyamory is an umbrella term including both open marriages and swinging, and other patterns, too.
Really?? Why are the 2 women performing at a Swingers club and also participating as swingers! I call 📱 bullshit.
@@rolsson1693 Because they want to. This isn't an ironclad rigidly defined role. The last thing Stacey said in the video was that their relationship is fluid.
@@jimbim4405the beginning of the end was when you decided to have an open marriage.
When she asks if anyone feels left out I would imagine its the child.
Wrong. He gets more parents.
@@shepberryhill4912 it's not very stable for him ...just because a person is an adult , that does not make them a parent.
@@shepberryhill4912lol. When mum had a heartbreak I’m sure she was great to be around 😒
Yes, God forbid parents have feelings. @@mrshonourable
People are capable of higher emotional intelligence in polyamoury. It's possible to be sad eithout it affecting every corner and facet of your life and other relationships @mrshonourable
Wow !!! love staceys documentaries.. love to meet her in real life n have a cup of tea and a long chat with her...
. As a bloke its wierd that i get a fuzzy nice feeling from watching these heart warming and mind opening docs that suprisingly show me that even if I don't think that I would live the way the prople in the docs do, that I can still see other peoples choices and ways of life without automatically judging or criticising them.
Surely it should be considered an asset to be able to see others and their lives and focus not on our differences but on our similarities??!!❤
Well put! @ashleydixon8671 Here's to more humans opening minds and hearts beyond judgement, able to slip into another's "shoes"...at least for a touch of empathy, humanity ~
Take another bite of the apple
>Whos idea was it?
>'It was mutual'
>It was her idea
Her hair looks fabulous. Suits her well.
I get it that it works for the adults; and, although it's not for me, I don't judge them for it; but, I wonder how it feels for their son to get so attached to Nicole and then she leaves? That was never discussed although I think it's an important factor, considering your child's feelings as well. I'd like to see a follow-up with this family in 10 years.
I was wondering the same. I could be an "aunt" feeling or even an extra caretaker because, for kids, there is no "not normal" until they grow up and understand what was actually going on.
Lot's of people get divorced and their children grow up with multiple step-parents and several homes.
YES, VERY SAD
That is a good point. But it's important to keep in mind this is just one situation. There are many very long term poly families, and even in this case, they may stay in touch. It's not like she's disappearing off the face of the earth, though yeah Australia is far, but that also shows this is an exceptional situation.
And I do not agree with singling out poly families like so many of these comments are trying to do. I know of fundamentalist families that raised such foolish ridiculous mentality and dysfunction the adult kids turned on the parents with greed over land many family members aunts uncles siblings no longer talk to each other or saw the others' kids after seeing the kids previously growing up. I know because that's my "family." But yet no one makes these inane comments about the fundamentalist families that have the same issues or even worse issues because of nothing but just perception and just because anyone doing anything different at all completely blows their mind
This couple house is gorgeous.i don’t relate with their way of life but their way of taste is great…😊
😊
Taste? Didn‘t see any. 🤢
Just a mix of random furniture, no style or personality at all.
My son and his wife got into this lifestyle and they explained it as having so much love that it was easy to share with others. All that was asked of each other was to be open and honest before ever being with another. Surprise they are now divorced, because my son cheated on his wife. He had sex with someone without telling his wife. TRUST WAS BROKEN! I am not sure this can last over the long haul.
One failure does not condemn an entire lifestyle. The failure rate of monogamous marriage is over 50%.
Haha
Maybe he forgot 😂😂😂
because they don't do it for the sex, they do it for the thrill of doing something forbidden.
Never does last. It’s a cry for help.
If my bf had sex with someone else I'd feel really betrayed, it doesn't have anything to do with seeing your partner as your "property", love is a two-way street.
My mate of 41 years was in a swinger marraige.. He had to know his wife was was fine, at all times and wanted her to enjpy herself only then could he go off a party or club with another woman to enjoy himself.
They began this adventure whenhis best friend's wife he had known all his life walked out he was very depressed. They decided she should offer to cheer him up that there WOULD be other women who wted and enjoyed him. It was the first nontraditional experiemce any of them had...it worked out fine so they tried other things etc etc.
I met him after he was divorced...I was widowed we both were in our 30s. AIDS was raging and I had zero interest in such a lifestyle. So we never did. He ws plenty for me and I certainly did not judge him.
I was the luckiest of women to have him pretty sure he felt lucky too...we never married he cpuld have walked out any day...I liked the idea we both had options but chose each other over anyone else. Men would hit on me...uh no thanks. He died at 80 last year....I am grateful to have had him.
Open your mind. This video is not about your opinion on the definition of love
Well, some people have the ability to love more than one, others don't. Fortunately those who have the ability will never force those who don't have it to still adapt to the polyamory lifestyle, so you're probably going to be just fine.
I like Stacey, but yeah she's biased. She's "open and tolerant" to this lifestyle, but turns her nose down to the "tradwife" lifestyle...and TOTALLY JUDGES them.
She also called the "tradwife" brainwashed.
I agree 100%
That’s British hypocrisy 😂
Everybody is brainwashed to their own liking.
Yep obvious bias , she was appalling to the ‘trad wife’ Stacy was sanctimonious in her attitude but she’s all smooth to these polys
It's wild that Stacey acts more accepting, and way less judgmental in this situation than with the wealthy people. She claims to be so open, but has some massive prejudices herself. Also, no one else but this "throuple" has asked her to get a lap dance at a sex party, but somehow the conservatives are offensive?
Maybe she is open and accepting of open and accepting people?
She’s not though. When she spends time with more conservative people she expresses a lot more prejudice. If the point is to meet real people who live different lives, the goal should be to treat them the same. This episode specifically, she seems to go out of her way to praise their lives and show interest and how positive it is. If she’s going to be biased the show premise should reflect that. Not claim that it’s just a regular woman visiting all different types of people, the good and the bad.
The reason this show came to be in existence is because of Ms. Dooley and her need to express her massive and multitudes of prejudices.
@@albionswede I couldn't have said it better myself. She's a classic "tolerant" liberal.
I like Stacey, but yeah she's biased. She's "open and tolerant" to this lifestyle, but turns her nose down to the "tradwife" lifestyle...and TOTALLY JUDGES them.
She also called the "tradwife" brainwashed.
I can't imagine sharing my husband with another woman, and yes we fulfill every need, every!
That’s what I was saying about myself and got slayed in the comments.
Agree. My husband and I absolutely fulfil every need for each other, and have done for 37 years, since we met at aged 19. ( we've been married for nearly 34 years) Neither of us has been tempted by another person, No one else could ever fill his shoes , for me. He tells me and shows me , every day , just how much he loves me.
@@Drea62621Ignore them. They're just jealous people , who have never experienced this depth of love
and funny their polyamorous reports on agreement of open relationships always have another woman in the equation but not a man aka 2 men with the wife . It only works for the men, women don't want it and they go along with their crazy low IQ husband that they chose to marry .
to each their own. live and let live. Right?
Their experience is much like the poly couple i know personally. I find it so strange how open Stacey is to the lifestyle compared to how judgemental and confrontation she has been with other families. This would have been a great opportunity for her to discuss her own biases.
Cathy doesn't seem weird to me in contrast to the other comments. She seems like she's really interested in a relationship with a woman but doesn't want to give up the stability and😮 familiarity with her husband. I really like Thomas and it seems to me the poly lifestyle was Cathy's idea that he went along with to make her happy.
I think the reason she's more judgemental about other families is that there is usually some element of hurting others with their lifestyle; Tradwives are anti-feminist, family vloggers exploit their kids for money, rich people buying big cats to live in captivity their entire lives, whereas polyamory is about loving each other and others. I know some poly families and while it's not for me, this is an accurate representation of poly life. They're not hurting anyone so what is there to be judgemental and confrontation about? I find Stacey only gets judgemental and confrontational when there is something to confront and I don't see adults choosing to share their beds with other consenting adults to be something that needs to be confronted or judged.
I thought the same! With the trad wife documentary she was way more judgemental....
Seems to me some who are judgmental of Stacey having thoughts and opinions which may challenge those she's willing and open minded enough to spend a few days immersing herself in their environment, may confuse having open, honest, perhaps challenging dialogue, with closed minded and non-evidence based opinions based solely on prior biasesor wishing to be "right". For example, I recall the after chat of the wealthy man with wild cats & Stacey clearly stated she'd thought he was going to be one way but after spending time around him, she was changed about him, if not about his choice to disregard his community's concerns for their safety.
Yes she was hugely judgemental on the couple who did not vaccinate their kids & yet she is happy with this set up with a 7 year old child in the house !
@Miss_ESL you could argue that the children are hurt when people come in and out of their life. How are trad wives hurting feminists? Isn't feminism about choice?
Having a group sx painting in a living room with a 7-year-old is not mildly but wildly inappropriate. While all of them seem nice, I don't think any of these relationships will last.
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
@@brobinson8614 I'm not saying he doesn't get enough attention, or they don't love him. I said sx paintings are not for kids. But also, having people move in and out the house, because parents have their temporary open relationship partners, is not healthy for a child either. In addition to that seeing your parents not he loyal to one another must be scary.
@@natalien.9528 So like having nannies or boarders moving in or out, same same. You are just making up excuses because to you its not normal. but theres tribes around the world that have multiple partners. Its part of nature
@@brobinson8614 yes having a nanny move out is difficult for children. But the nanny was at least there to take care of the child when the parents couldn't. Polygamy is Hedonism. Monogamy is and was the order of the day in any successful civilization. It's the first step into culture, leaving the fleshly animal nature behind. It's the basis of any functional society. You're right, the early humans might have screwed around, but it wasn't beneficial to forming societies, that's why they stopped.
@@natalien.9528 monogamy is monotonous though. Most partners are thinking of someone at work while the have sex with their partner. Thats living a lie. These people found the perfect solution to it all
He blushed and started playing with his rings when Nicole came home. He has it bad for her.
Having a glass staircase and a young kid is crazy
I thought it was just plain crazy!!
Its a cool concept, simply learn to pay attention with the weight limitations.
Running up them with socks?!
I know of way too many couples who live “traditionally” & are secretly miserable to judge these people lol. Many projections on this comment section,also divorce rates are quite telling. Love the transparency of this arrangement. Not for me but to each their own.
One thing I’ve learned as I’ve seen alternative sexual lifestyles is once someone leaves a monogamous marriage between a man and a woman, they have left the true purpose of marriage, which is unity and selflessness, charity and love. It then becomes about personal sexual desires. And once someone has turned from marriage between a man and a woman, sexual boundaries are completely fluid and can turn more sinister, even reaching .pdf ilia.
Well, not everyone is an ultra religious conservative. There are different kinds of people in society, and that's okay.
I've noticed polyamory is a short term option. It doesn't seem to be a life long venture. More of a period of time. Listen, I'm not saying it means anything if something is temporary (as everything ultimately is). It's just interesting.
I think polyamory is great. People get to explore without deception. As long as the couples have good communication and boundaries. It's better than all these folks pretending to be monogamous cheating on their partners. It should be an open discussion. I personally am super monogamous (my whole life). But I love that people have a socially acceptable avenue to explore and be themselves. Love is love and there isn't one correct way to experience it.
I couldn’t agree more. I’m totally the monogamous type but if you’re going to step out, at least do it respectfully and honestly. I respect these relationships for that.
Some people have done it for decades... I think it's short term if people are entering because they are trying to hold on to a failing relationship though
Not fun for the child who probably doesn't want the whole world to know about his parents sex life... 🙄 I hope he won't get bullied because of this.
If he gets bullied let’s make sure to hold the perpetrators responsible and not blame the parents.
@@debbiequack Sure of course it's the bully who does wrong. But it would have been better to keep him out of this. Kids can't consent to being on the internet, so they should not be on the internet. Not in this case or never.
I also wouldn't allow him to be videod. Maybe the school is supersuppprtive. I knew a trans person once who went and spoke to their sons school and the teachers managed the classroom to make sure he didn't get bullied. But I don't like the statements made previously that the kid knows all about his parents sex life bc they don't have sex in front of him any more than a monogamous couple would. We also have to be aware that the 'your kids will be bullied' argument was used also to discourage interracial and gay marriages/adoption.
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
Not sure about this. Feel sorry for the kid,
Yeah, it must be hard having more than two loving adults in his life.
Yesss
The feeling of excitement for your partner or partners having other romantic attachments is called compersion.
Compersion is actually just the opposite of jealousy and anyone can experience this emotion:
Envy: Wishing to have something you don't have but you know someone else has.
Jealousy: Being upset when someone else's joy doesn't come from yourself.
Compersion: Being happy for someone's experience of joy regardless of the source of that joy.
Examples:
Envy: You want the Tesla that Sarah has.
Jealousy: Sarah buys a Tesla and she is more excited about buying her Tesla than she was about the Gucci purse you gave her for Christmas so you feel she's unappreciative and it's not fair that she likes the Tesla more.
Compersion: Sarah likes the Gucci purse, but she's more excited about the Tesla she's buying. You don't take it personally and are just happy that Sarah likes the present you gave her and are also happy that she's excited about buying her Tesla.
Everyone can experience any or all of these emotions, not everyone experiences them all nor at the same intensity, but it ranges per person.
Monoamorous people naturally experience more jealousy and envy when it comes to their romantic relationships. Polyamorous people tend to experience more compersion in romantic relationships. Ambiamorous or other amorous people can experience a range of these emotions depending on the person, situation, or intensity of their emotions. This is why polyamory is actually called a relationship orientation (yes, it's an orientation) because you're feelings are based on your values and what feels best for you and often this can be developed in childhood. As she described, polyamorous people experience natural compersion and excitement for partners and we have always been that way since childhood. It effects how we love in all relationships, not just romantic ones. We can feel this compersion with multiple friends, siblings, parents, and it extends to partners. It's important to understand this is a NATURAL emotion, not learned. Not everyone is or can be polyamorous, just as not everyone is or can be monoamorous.
Not everyone experiences jealousy just as not everyone experiences compersion. Others may experience both or neither and at different intensities. Understanding this, if you have complete jealousy, then you can't fall in love with multiple people because your focus can only take one in a healthy manner. If you experience complete compersion, then it's difficult to focus that emotion onto one person. A person who experiences an experience in the middle of these emotions may have more control over how they can formulate relationships between one or more people, causing it to feel more like a choice (ambiamorous people). These emotions play a huge roll in someone's relationship orientation. This doesn't mean polyamorous people can't get jealous or monoamorous people can't feel compersion, it just means that jealousy comes more naturally for monoamorous people and compersion comes more naturally for polyamorous people. While too much jealousy is bad (you don't want to go as far as to own or control someone so they can't have friends or isolating them to just be around and do things with only you), only intense jealousy needs to be and can be worked on. Some jealousy can help with your boundaries. So, if you experience a healthy amount of jealousy and it's helping you keep up boundaries in your relationships, then keep at it. Don't listen to polyamorous people who say, "We just need to work on our jealousy." Often times, we think jealousy stems from insecurities and while it can (especially for polyamorous people where jealousy is unnatural until and unless trauma occurs), many polyamorous people tend to ignore the fact that jealousy can be natural even without trauma and that monoamorous people have it naturally. It's because it's telling you that something doesn't make you comfortable in the situation and as long as that emotion doesn't overstep other people's boundaries, then you are entitled to adhere to your jealousy. I'm not sure why polyamorous people ignore this as though we can understand what it's like to be monoamorous. All these emotions are valid just as all orientations are valid. Anyways, just thought I'd explain compersion, the relationship orientation spectrum a bit, and why we experience more compersion as well as why monoamorous people experience more jealousy.
I am confused. When asked about the marriage, they said it all happened so fast, but they have a 7 year old son and they have been married for 6 years ...???? This is not really complicated. These people have removed intimacy and love from sex and made sex into simply recreational activity. They say they watched their parents lie about things that they should not have been doing and it hurt them. So we will just do those wrong things out in the open and it will not hurt our child. 🤣🤣🤣
It did feel like they skipped over how they met and the beginning of their relationship. It feels like something is missing with their relationship.
Exactly. 🎯
It's not just about sex though, they have a deep romantic relationship with another person... You are describing a whole other couple in this comments, definitely not the one in this video
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
EXACTLY I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE LITTLE BOY.
Tell me you come from a broken family without telling me😂
❤❤hello dear how are you doing ❤
Thanks for some great reporting. I didn’t know much about that before.
I do hope you're being sarcastic
@@marcsassenach that’s pretty cynical. Why can’t I make a comment And actually learned something. Be honest with you a little bit. Insulting to me. This is a great information that I didn’t know about. These are peoples lives. They agree to be filmed. Make a mockery of it. Don’t make a situation where there is no situation. I learned something.
.You’re the one making the mockery. I’m the one trying to learn. I have my blessings for you. Just Try to be maybe a little less cynical, the person reporting has great courage. The people have much great courage. You sir, are drawing way too much negative attention.
Then, again, maybe I’m being a little bit more defensive and I need to be. I’m not being sarcastic. Honestly, I learned a lot. But I do not like the accusation one bit. First Glance Made me very angry. If that was insulting you. You have my apology.
@@bickie603 I was just trying to be funny, it's a hit or miss pursuit.
That's a big suitcase for just a weekend. 😂🎉
It was great whenever the weird pizzicato strings stopped 😊.
So many lovely people in this documentary!
Thank you for giving insights into your relationships.
This is OK for the adults but have they ever thought about their son or are they too selfish to even care .
They have.
Their son is fine?? Having multiple partners in a healthy relationship is a foreign idea to a lot of people, but children are very accepting once something is thoroughly explained to them.
@@bluetheangelofdeath I agree! Kids are fine with a lot of things that the adults try to teach them to feel ashamed of or hurt by. If we all acted more like children do around other children, there wold be a lot more love and acceptance in the world.
I guess I’m too old fashioned…….I find this mind boggling!
Think about it. A harem. Many hot women. Perhaps stash them with separate front doors
most shocking part for me was when they burned the pizza
Makes the two of us 😊
@@marcsassenach😂😂
It has nothing to do with age 😂
This gives me the creeps. Maybe, if you were used to this it wouldn’t affect you this way, but it gives me chills down my spine. I can see through the deception of this.
Totally!
Me too its gross! More so because they involving a child!!
@@Sprinklystuff I DUNNO WHY THEY AENT WORRIED ABOUT STDS!!
@@JENKEN425 They are. Who do you think is more likely to carry a condom, a polyamorous person going on a date or a monogamously married person going on a company conference?
It's a bit sad that in her questions Stacey only touched on the very superficial layer of such a relationship only trying to confirm or contradict the very stereo types discussed when talking about such relationships. Plus, it was too exclusively focused on the "the guy in Australia" aspect of this very particular throuple ...... I would have liked to hear more and better understand aspects such as: is this polyamory relationship primarily defined by the sexual aspects involved; how and where does emotional love come in and in which ways? What are the aspects that make you decide to cohibit thus sharing lives 24/7 instead of just meeting for dates? What requirements are necessary to ensure that the marriage does not get strained? Emotionally but also very pragmatically and concrete ..... In this episode, the aspect of jealousy or emotional struggles were nearly entirely negated, but in reality I know that it is an aspect that needs to be constructively dealt with through a lot of exchange and concrete agreements and plans. Also the aspect of dealing with the child was answered in a rather abstract manner with very little concrete plans and decisions being presented. I am not saying that they were not there, but it would have been interesting to dig deeper to get a better picture. All together, all of the people present seemed yery nice and positive with Cathy being visibly affected by the current state of events. I wish them all the best.
Stacey is a joke, she's not a reporter and this should not be called a documentary.
To call her a journalist is an insult to the profession.
Yeah there is gonna be a lot of "getting even" like in the show White Lotus. Even couples are honest. There is always gonna be one side who is worse off sometimes. It then can build resentments tho they will not may show it.
It doesn't look as if the married couple really love each other or care very much about each other. They both seem to be in love with the Australian girl. Maybe they are just staying together for the sake of their son.
It seems mostly like that. They could both be addicted to sex?
That's your projection, you're ignoring obvious signs of their devotion to each other.
Talking like that in their son's presence, it doesn't seem they care about him at all.
I GOT THST SAME IMPRESSION, CATHERINE SEEMED HURT THAT AUSTRALIAN GIRL WAS GONNS MOVE ON. CATHERINE DIDNT SEEM INTO HER HUSBAND.
I think they are not in love with each other anymore but the house and the kid keeps them together and so they have and open relationship. This is not polyamory. This is a marriage that is over and they are still friends and don't want to sell the house or have the boy home only half of the time. And they love sex. That's it. And the woman is an attention seeker and is madly in love with the red head. And the red head is leaving for another man. This so called marriage will fall apart eventually.
Really yucky energy here. The real truth is that, while all people have free will and are able to make a choice about what kind of relationship they have, there is only one true relationship meant for each of us and that is with our soulmate. This concept is so terrifying to many people that the mere mention of is sends them into a rage, because there is a lot of terror about not having control about our very humaneness, having to surrender to the fact that we are as we are, that we have an eternal soul and that God exists. But after the tantrum about it, feeling all the grief and fear, when surrender comes, you realize it's the single most fulfilling thing in life, beyond anything except our relationship with God. There is this one person that is all the things we never knew we needed and wanted and is so perfectly suited for us because we literally share a soul.
When someone says something like, "I've always noticed I'm turned on by other women being attracted to my man," there are deep emotional injuries from childhood that have not been felt. One does not become a 15 year old runaway and sexworker because they're "independent." On the scale of dysfunctional behavior, it is on the far end of the continuum. It's astounding how unaware everyone in this family is of just basic psychology, or that they came from parents who cheated or that this is in fact not working for them, or that making a whole show about their intimate relationship may have a strong backlash on their young child when others start talking to him about it. Absolutely clueless.
To be so detuned from that grief, shame and fear that it turns into pathology of this level takes a profound suppression of emotion. It is a powerful use of free will in the wrong direction that will produce pain and suffering the likes of which this young couple cannot even fathom yet. The damage to other, most notably their child will be epic and will take even more work now to heal the unloving choice they have made. If you feel attracted to these things, stop and feel into the pain beneath it all. It will be well worth it.
I agree with every word you've wrote. Every single one. I've got exactly the same observations from basic psychology (dysfunctions and pathologies) to God. They are living in a fantasy (trauma driven) and unaware of what is coming their way. Consequences will be extremely painful and ugly.
It was beautiful energy. The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
If you have issue with emotional neglect go protest outside a child care centre, thats where children learn they aren't loved
@@brobinson8614 You are only seeing the superficial, just because this woman is all smiley and huggy, the relationship was clearly broken and the hypersexuality screams sexual abuse survivor. It's really sleazy, actually. You simply will not prevent passing those same emotional injuries onto your child unless or until you heal them.
@@TrueWalker88 utter nonsense, Its practiced in cultures around the world, gone on since for millennium. Get you head out of this fictional abuse gutter you just made up. Dear lord your comment is the worst I've read in 2024. In fact I bet it will remain the most ridiculous all year
@@brobinson8614 You are very deluded and unwilling to feel your own grief and terror of the truth you know deep down to be true - that there is one soulmate for each person. This makes you feel like you have no control, or scared that your shame will be too much for someone else. Just the thought of it triggers so much pain in you that you shut down over and over and over, and each time you take another step down the path of rebellion and cynicism, so that you end up with this very distorted belief structure that it far from truth, love, morality and peace. You know it's true, don't shoot the messenger. Just go process that before reacting.
I can’t say that I understand this, but to each his/her own! Who am I to judge?
Totally agree
This show was one of my favorite that she has done. I think she will stay friends with them.
She’s a journalist… that would cross many professional boundaries.
I'm too jealous and insecure for a relationship like this.😊
How's that working out for you.
@@saltpeter500 . Been rough at times 😞
@@Mason-ci8gjThis isn’t a relationship this is a tragic mess
It's good to know yourself
Nah, you're normal.
I really don't get it personally, but I respect it in that they seem to be very respectful of one another and caring and all are okay with it. That's what is most important.
The big issue is diseases. Condoms prevent some, but many are transmitted skin to skin contact.
The big issue is bringing a kid in all this.
@@degrotekoningwouteryes exactly 💯
@@degrotekoningwouterthat's like saying having grandparents is what is the hardest thing for the kids😂
hehe he!
If you want to avoid skin to skin contact you'll have to avoid people in general. No handshakes, no travelling by bus, no concerts, and so on. Boring life!
The wife seems off to me… she comes across quite narcissistic/insecure. Her husband always has a look of discomfort when talking about their situation.
yes! shes def got some bad vibes. we cant judge to much maybe stacey had said something she didnt like, a lot of editing is done and so much gets cut out. But i do think she has a weird vibe, like shes being competed with and shes just accepted it..
I didn’t pick up on any of this. I thought everyone seemed very genuine. But maybe I’m biased because I’m also polyamorous. When I get asked the same questions over and over I can get a bit annoyed.
Childhood issues may have made this seem ideal to the wife.
I felt Cathy had deeply fallen in love with Nicole. She's hurting because she knows she's found a guy she has deeper feelings for. I reckon, in a choice between Thomas and Nicole, Thomas would be out on his ear ! She was quiet, every time the talk turned to her Aussie boyfriend. The fact Nicole no longer slept with Thomas, because this other guy was in the picture, showed the chains between the 3 were slackening ( she felt sleeping with women was not being 'unfaithful' to her new guy)
I didn’t notice anything off.. 🤷🏼♀️cameras can make people uncomfortable..
I actually find this couple to be extremely facetious. These types of relationships are pretty selfish. They benefit the married couple but not the third person at all. It’s completely sexual in nature.
Who says the 3rd person isn't benefitting? This lifestyle isn't for me in the slightest, but to say the 3rd person doesn't benefit at all and that everyone is just being selfish means you have completely missed everything that was said. If the 3rd person wanted to be in a monogamous relationship,. they would be. They're not looking for that 1 person to be with for the rest of their lives. They get plenty of affection, both sexual and non, without needing to feel completely tied down to only 1 person. When the wife spoke of just snuggling on the couch watching TV, that shows you that this ISNT completely sexual in nature. And one could say the married couple are perhaps less selfish than a traditional relationship. They are open to allowing their partner to have other experiences and discover more about themselves, rather than being jealous, which IS a selfish emotion.
Maybe you should rewatch thr episode? I think your biases are shining pretty brightly and have gotten in the way of you trying to understand what they are saying and where they are coming from.
I wonder what their childhoods were like, and what they're overcompensating for. Also, if kids are in the picture, this changes things. Also, when his wife is wooed by a smoking hot guy who is rich, he may change his mind. This is too much of a power struggle.
I know a throuple with 4 kids and have watched their kids grow up. They're all in college now and doing great. In a liberal area, when the kids go to schools where kids are taught to accept different types of families, it doesn't have to be a big deal. The parents are celebrating their 14th anniversary as a throuple soon. They've always been exclusive between the three of them though, no going out and picking up strangers.
WHY WOUKD A RICH MAN WANT THMAS WIFE???/ SHES NOT MONOGAMUS. SHE LIKES FEMALES OLOL
If Stanley loves Nicole ,what happens when she decides to leave .?
She did move out. He learns not to get attached to people. That's why his parents have chosen to stay together "no matter what". It happens with kids who live with single parents. Moms can have many boyfriends over time, etc.
This would bother me less if there wasn’t a child involved. Like do what you want but if there’s a kid, they need stability, not people coming and going and confusion. This poor kid
I worked as an Au Pair for a year. I was living with the family, the kids waking me up in the morning to start my day with them and me being there and playing with them even in my free time on some weekends, being a part of the family. Before me they had two other Au Pairs, each staying with the family for a year and leaving after that. Do you think that was less stability and confusing for the kids?
@@anthill1510 I think an au pair is a very different thing than a romantic partner. Kids can tell the difference and are going to be well aware of the relational dynamic going on in their home. Just ask any kid (now adult) who has experienced divorcing parents and then a stepparent moving in. It’s not easy or ideal for kids. I experienced this and it sucked. I realize divorce is very common and millions of kids deal with this and survive, but the research shows breaking up a family is hard on children. People coming and going from a home like in this video would likely have some of the same effects as divorce on a child.
The world is already a confusing place. All a child needs to do is step outside the door to school and that is evident. They have said and showed
how they protect him and love him, what more do you want of them.
@@warpig50 Exactly why make his life confusing with strangers coming in and out when the parents get the urge? He will feel very different than his peers as this is not a common thing, the majority of his friends would have a typical nuclear family, which is in my opinion healthier for a child.
@@kermitthefrog2311 That is the past. Where the world is going this sort of relationship will be acceptable and normal. So at least he is prepared to view things differently. The typical nuclear family can also be just as bad or confusing so it isn't a guarantee of stability either.
They also aren't teaching their child self-sacrifice. What it is to put everything else above yourself. I think that is what's wrong in "Western" culture.
Life is too short to be sacrificing yourself every day. This isn't a one time sacrifice which we all have to take- It's sacrificing in a monogamy for years and carrying that cross when you could be honest with yourself and your partner.
I don't know what that child will learn. But in the world to come he will be best prepared.
Wilbur is female.
Wouldn't it be nice if you were with someone who treats you like a princess, will share intimate moments only both of you do and is not willing to share you with everybody?
I for one would absolutely hate that. Turns out people have different needs and wants.
These people are the most attractive britts i've ever seen.
😂
CATHERINE IS CUTE SHE HAS A GREAT BODY.
@@JENKEN425 which Catherine are you referring to?
@@dekev7503 THE ONLY CATHERIN IN THE STORY. THE STRIPPER CHICK WHO MARRIED THOMAS. THE ONE WHO LIKEDS NICOLE.
They all seem lost to me
They pretend to be strong and close to each other but you have seen through that
Maybe you would seem lost to them...
5:26 What do you reckon your thoughts are?
My closed caption is decided "DNA Wall" instead of "Do you know what?"
Why even get married? Will be interesting to see these same people in thirty years lo l
Given that more than half of marriages fail. And that we can assume a huge majority of those marriages are traditional ones .. what would them breaking up prove?
@@botanisexthank you. Of course you don't get an answer because her brain would probably melt trying to justify her prejudice
THRY WONT BE TOGETHER IN 30 YEARS LOL
This is sad. There is no way they will stay a healthy relationship. They will never have complete trust.
You mean the kind of trust mono people have, where they want to "just look through" each other's phones and stuff?
They seen so happy and content with their life! I don't know how and why people get so mad about adults living their lifes how they wanna...as long as its legal and consensual that all good!
Exactly we dont own each other, I feel that traditionel marrige is old fashioned.
Don’t care what people do but I take my marriage vows very seriously and this is a joke.
@@katarinasvensson9801so then don’t get married if you don’t believe what it stands for
@@Drea62621 well but this is not your marriage. Other people marriage should be the way they wanna it to be not you
@@elisaduarte3604 I understand that but the values of marriage is forsaking all others. This is not a marriage and I have the right to my opinion ty what is the point of marrying someone so you can keep cheating on them? Its fine just don’t get married and then bring children in a world where it’s ok when your married to sleep with anything.
The interviewer is wow! Interesting interview, well done and what a look into a different relationship scenario.
So basically it is a marriage in which both can cheat... These kind of relationships never work out long term,..
They're fighting at least 10's of thousands of years of evolution and biology.
The absence of monogamy leaves them bereft of love and commitment. Sex is fun. Sex with many partners is more fun. Having the most fun is not the same as having love.
Many married people secretly cheat lol. Many.
So basically is not a marriage. It is open "relatonship"
Majority of monogamous marriages don't work out long-term either.
Experimenting is all i think of this three way relationship. Its the surface level attraction and being turned on by one another they are confusing with commitment and real feelings. Often a denial of your authentic self because it brings up too many painful memories. Promiscuity has its roots in trauma. The child is the sad victim who didn't invite this. Hope he grows up happy and not confused about love if he chooses monogamy.
This type of relationship seems like it’s very time consuming, why add chaos to your life, I don’t see how they get the time to do this extra relationship stuff esp when they have a child, and work. It must take time away from their marriage. ???
Did you watch the video? If you think that was chaos, lord knows what you'd think of real chaos. I've come across many more "normal" families which are truly chaotic
Of course it is time consuming. But so is football practice, going for a jog, shopping with your friends, visiting Aunt Sally, and so on. People do have lives outside of their marriage, and they should! Imagine being attached to your spouse 24/7! That, if anything, would be unhealthy.
This isn't a marriage. And that poor little boy.
They should have kept the boy anonymous and blurred his face poor kid.
This is not a healthy family. It’s pure sexual selfishness.
Hello dear ❤❤❤❤
I don’t know how Stacey manages to stay over at peoples houses like that. I can stay with friends and family like that but I’d either need a bedroom with ensuite at a strangers place, or I’d have to stay in a hotel.
Totally disgusting
They need to focus on being Parents- not promiscuous partners. What example are they setting for their kid. This is so bad
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
We need a follow up now and an interview of the boy
he's probably transitioning
The child is clearly loved and is getting more attention than many kids in normal families whose parents are both professional workers chucking the poor kids in childcare. That to me is true emotional neglect and abusive. This couple however are there for him. Big difference
Couldn’t live that lifestyle but I’d love to follow all three of them just to see where they all end up
The guys seems more into the red head that his wife (have seen any affection from him to his wife throughout), red head seems more into the wife emotionally but into the guy sexually, wife seems like she could want monogamy, but doesn’t wanna have a broken home.
youre free to judge but its their choice and their emotions at the end
Well observed.
THE WIFE SEEMED INTOT HE RED HEADED WOMAN. SHE DIDNT SEEM TO CARE MUCH ABOUT HER MAN/
the wife is really into the other girl more than her husband
Talking about this in front of a kid is irresponsible 😢
You are absoluteley right with what you say.
I was thinking the same. It is not their sex life that makes them weird and irresponsible, it is talking about it in their son's presence.
The kid is affected bigtime by these clowns he is forced to call parents.
He seems so well adjusted polite and loving
The parents don't love eachother they are just using eachother , the other girl seems just young and nieve and they child will absolutely be truamatised in my opinion.
Absaloutly
@@caitnash3488😂
BORING
And what are you basing that opinion on?
@@kannoos75 bigotry and ignorance imo 🙄
Not sure this is about love so much as lust. Nicole moves out and the other two are immediately screwing other people. The cycle never slows down. This lifestyle is certainly an option for good-looking people who have very high sex drives and the need to have new, frequent (or just extra) partners. Like randy teenagers. Is that love though? And does it show unselfish maturity considering there's a child in the house? Also, that artwork above the couch... that little boy is growing up and will be embarrassed bringing friends home. (Side question: does he? I worry about the kids in these situations.) I find it all a bit narcissistic and self-involved, that's just my opinion... but hey it's the internet.
They all seems happy. Who are we to judge. Iam happy for them.
God will judge them and it's gonna be nasty for sure. We are nothing but spectators.
They greeted her very warmly. Lol 😮
Dually noted.
Personally I dislike the way Stacey is very kind and says things like "fascinating" "amazing" when they are explaining how their relationships work, but when I saw the documentary about the trad wife, she was more condescending most of the time... Sad how we have lost common morals and values...
Your disrespect for someone else’s lifestyle is what is wrong with the world. Their personal life does not impact your life or mine.
@@MDWJSI think you missed the point 😅
really how so? I welcome how you perceived I miss the point.@@VelvetyMoon
@@MDWJS WHEN THEY SPREAD DISEASES IT DOES IMPACT SOCIETY, WHEN THEIR CHIKD ENDS UP MUCKED UP FOR LIFE IT IMPACTS SOCIETY.
This isn’t a marriage. Do what you want but don’t get married and make a mockery out of it.
God help the children involved been bullied 😢DISGUSTING
Prostitution,,without payments
POOR KID HAVE THEY NO SHAME
@@eileenmelia6459ty for saying that 🙌
@@eileenmelia6459same response ty for saying it. I’ve been attacked in the comments for just saying this isn’t a marriage and got slayed 😂
Truly love this episode! It’s beautiful to see such conscious loving going on. Jealousy is ugly to me. This is not. ❤
None of them looks particularly happy, even if that's what they claim, and it seems to me there's impending doom written all over this nonsensical lifestyle.
Spoken like a true priest that has been shown there is only one way to live life.
In this little bit of interview you can see all this and know this is not good for them huhhh.
Wow you must have great brain powers like a god lolll. More like envy then anything else.
@@mikep4823 There's nothing to envy in the contents presented above. Perhaps that's just your projection. Something to think about. Not that your reply merits an answer.
Have you stayed in touch with any of the people you interviewed?
And i just want to know tje cats name.....
I thought the guy is a carpenter...he can just build a bigger bed😂😂😅 To accommodate them
Nothing better than marriage, one man and one women, who love each other exclusively. Only sorry that some don't find that. How could someone ever respect a man who would not want his women all to himself and loves and respects her. They are out there ladies.
catherine doesn't seem to respect or love thomas. she knows he doesnt love her, she is searchign for rreal love,
All I keep thinking is 1) Wilbur needs a proper mud pen!! 2) What is the cat’s name?!?!
This lifestyle is incredibly selfish. It's prioritizing sex and excitement above all other values in life. It certainly isn't in the best interest of their child.
Absolutely love the video and how much positive effect in on us people who are polyamory or couple that has a open marriage
This could function, when both parts of the couple are truly open-minded, truly love and respect each other and somehow intelligent to know, that they can put a limit when sexual pleasure turns into love that might destroy the existing relationship. If all these factors exist, this can function in theory, otherwise, it would risk existing relationship.
I don't have a problem with this but i must be truful, it feels a bit off... fake on the other side. I mean not fake documentary but fake "love", fake feelings
You know they’ve gotta be trying to put their best foot forward.
I felt like the documentary was fake.
This couple needs to grow up. There’s more to life than just having fun on the side. Do more the your life.
We are doomed as a society ....Young people think that everything that can is permitted, but there are reasons we invited marriage! It was for the safety of children! And think about what happens if Nicole gets cancer of MS...are they going to take care of her? We should go back to old family structures.....this makes me sick. Yes, they seem so normal and nice...
Yes, they married each other because they want to have a marriage realtionship, which includes taking care of your partner when they get sick. Having sex with other people doesn`t keep you from caring for your sick partner?!
@@anthill1510Yes is does and it will! I mean fulltime...
@@Jannette-mw7fg Why does having sex with somebody else keep somebody from caring for their sick partner? Do you have experience with that? I don`t lnow what you mean with "full time"? A man having "full time sex" doesn`t actually take a lot of time, so what are you talkig about?
@@anthill1510 ☺Haha.....I meant full time taking care of somebody...hihi...not full time sex...
@@anthill1510 Don't be daft! Or pretend to be so. Having an intimate relationship with another person will automatically keep you from being able to take care of your ill spouse or child!