This whole video is such weird vibes. But right off the bat this guy roasts having his kids, then insults the interviewer by asking her to change her looks for his VIDEO.
“Don’t you like going to private school? Don’t you like the things we’ve been able to afford for you?” Is a disgusting response and tells me everything I need know about what she really cares about.
And she goes on to add speaking on behalf of what she’ll telll her kids when they read negative comments about themselves “don’t let the comments affect you, it’ silly.” She herself goes MIA in their videos because she’s negatively affected by the comments. How the hell would she expect her kids to. It difficult for adults to deal with the comments, let alone children. I’d love to be a fly on the wall when explains to her kids that they, as children, worked to support there own ‘lavish private school and pretty things lifestyle’ that she deems important. Her children will stop speaking to her. Mark my word.
Her reasoning is hectic. I think Hubby figured out a good way to bring in income and she is thumb sucking excuses to support his endeavors. I'm sure she would give up the filming in a heart beat. Maybe not the lavish lifestyle, but definitely the filming. He's on a roll.
* ~~ 2024 update ~~ * EMILIA 11 years. The dad started calling her a "preteen" when she was like 8 and then upgraded to "teenager" around 10, constantly clickbaiting with borderline inappropriate titles/thumbnails. The girl didn't want to be filmed then and she doesn't want to be filmed now. The dad said in the documentary he doesn't film the kids in compromising situations but in reality he makes a habit of doing so. EDUARDO 9 years. Is now a "trans girl" called "Edie" and the new favourite child to exploit (approx. 90% of their content). The parents have been blatantly lying to his face about really serious stuff like that he's an actual girl now and will be able to give birth to babies just like a real woman, and the sweet little child you see in this documentary is now a sassy Tiktok trainwreck dressed exclusively in crop tops and tight leggings showing off his parts. Both older kids have 100% free reign of the internet at all times. ALESSIA Completely ignored, might as well not exist. ANDREA 5 years old but still "the baby" because the parents can't be assed to raise him, to the point where he's wearing a bib(!), stays up all night, curses all the time and regularly hits his siblings - and the parents just shrug. The mum has made it her thing that she's a "toxic boy mum" who prefers her "only" boy to the other children and forgives him everything. Oh yeah, and mum got a tummy tuck and a boob job for the money they earned exploiting the children, because of course she did.
That sounded so dystopian that I took it as a joke. I just checked, and it is for real! 😳 That man looked like an awful narcissistic controller, with serious issues of self-esteem, but I wouldn't tought that life would have been so dark for those poor kids 😢
Y'all I just realized why this family seems so familiar. This family has made their former son, Eduardo into a girl named Eddie (pronounced E - D). There are rumors of them also trying to conform their youngest son into a girl as well. Their whole platform is about how Eddie is trans. What they did to their child is disgusting.
He's a little man with serious self-esteem issues. I have met many men like this. Is he Italian? He reminds me of so many people. He found a sweet girl with issues herself who adores him, and doesn't care about anything but himself. People like this are truly a problem
But then he’d have to get an outside job. It may be a lot of time spent, but he does get to be at home and not commute. Apparently, it rolls off his back easier than her.
He wasn't speaking to his wife when he said that so why would he say ours she didn't build anything with him that's not his wife. Some of you are just😂😂😂 their kids will be set in life when they get older. they already have a job and career does your kids already have a promised career.?? 😂😂
"This is a Jonathan and Anna channel and we don't focus on the kids" yet, all the activities are with the kids, the kids are in EVERY video. No Jonathan this IS a family channel focused around your children who do not want to be filmed.
When the kids grow up, they will be intensely and overly protective of their privacy. It could affect their relationships, in which they don't want to share themelves with others.
@@peterpoznanski7541 Except that when a child acts in a professional capacity - say for television, a film, a play or even modeling - there is a contract. Laws are in place that limit the hours a child can work depending on their age - and regardless, they’re not shown in their home (which should be a private space) - they’re playing characters in a fictitious setting. That’s FAR from a violation of their privacy. The problem here is that these children have no guaranteed safe space. There’s always someone watching them - which has to be quite disturbing.
17:30 really showed a lot. If both children are saying no they don't like to be in the videos, then they shouldn't be. The dad said, "that's understandable," when the daughter said she doesn't like being in the video. So what he's saying is that he gets it, he understands it, he knows it bothers his kids, but that still doesn't stop him. And the silence after that statement is wild. The whole vibe shifts in this moment, it's obvious that dad is tense and trying to act cool like this isn't bothering him at all. You are forcing your children to provide for your family. Family vlogs will never be okay, you should not profit off your children. No matter how much these parents justify and minimize what they are doing, they are still exploiting their children for money.
Do you think it would make a difference if the money went into a trust for the kids and the parents got specific paychecks for their work? Or for example Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen, we’re making lots of money young they paid for their parents homes as children is that any different or should we lump them together. I personally believe they are all kinda crap I like the idea of a trust and a normal paycheck for the work to the rents and all rest to the kids
@@merynr15i think it’s better if it’s put into a trust, but it’s still not okay because the children are being forced to work, even Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen were. They don’t get to choose and that’s not okay. They’re supposed to be kids and their private lives should not be shared for the public.
@@merynr15at least Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen, even though growing up in front of millions was not great for them, we’d protected under child labour laws. These family bloggers film their kids constantly. Their kids are constantly “working”
He keeps trying to explain himself! This alone is the answer. He thinks he is the best player in this franchise. He is very selfish but he will not own it. It’s called being arrogant because he controls his Wife and Kids. He’s not providing for his wife and children he is exploiting them and that’s some sort of abuse ( allegedly of course)
As a child advocate this is like watching a train wreck. I had to fast forward through most of this to fight the nausea. Fact: Court cases brought by the minors used by adults in these lucrative internet offerings when the minors reach legal age are going to prolific in 10 years.
@@lillustpotion Well, essentially: The dad has been calling the oldest girl a "teenager" since she was like 10 to get clicks from weirdos and she clearly doesn't want to be filmed anymore, but they keep at it. Oldest boy is now a "trans girl" and the parents heavily exploit this and use the poor kid in 90% of their content, lying to his face that he'll be able to do everything a woman does like give birth to babies, and what used to be a sweet little child is now a sassy Tiktok trainwreck dressed exclusively in crop tops and tight leggings showing off his parts. Third child is completely ignored, might as well not exist. Fourth child is 5 years old but still "the baby" because the parents can't be assed to raise him, to the point where he's wearing a bib(!), stays up all night and hits his siblings and the parents just shrug. Oh yeah, and mum got a tummy tuck and a boob job for the money they earned exploiting the children, because of course she did
The mom is too. She was just being super fake. Both care more about money and what they consider nice things when the best gifts are those precious children they exploit. The kids looked sad to me.
So the wife says honestly, “I was just looking for friends but Jonathan saw the potential for money”…… a little while later…. Jonathan “I didn’t commit to this, I was just videoing my life” 😂 the contradiction😂
This is such a hard watch when she asks how he would feel if a pedo was watching his kids and instead of saying disgusted and immediately taking down all videos of his kids, he answers with "that's a hard question, i don't know" what a creep.
You can tell when she says the bad comments are the least of her concerns that she is completely full of it. Her body language says otherwise. She knows this is wrong. They've sold their family life and themselves and their children's souls basically for money. It's such a shame. He's so obnoxious.
That dad 100% knows that bad people are watching his children and doesn't care because "thats not how he intended for the vlog to be consumed" I got shivers at that part. He knows and dosent care. This is horrific 😢
If you live and breathe, bad people are watching everyone's children. Get your minds out of the gutter and be real. These people are very mindful of what they are posting and can't let the possible problems stop them from living. People who try to make a mountain out of a mole hill are the controlling ones and make bad events more likely to happen.
Wow Anna really put life into perspective for me when she spoke about being the loneliest when they moved into their big house. She just wants to feel close to Jonathan again. I really loved how she shared that.
I used to do Instagram, I shared my wedding, pregnancy, birth - the lot. When my son was 2ish. He started getting recognised, I would receive DMs saying “I saw you in the mall yesterday!” Etc. That’s when I realised it was time to close my Instagram down. It wasn’t for me. It was for my son. He should be allowed to live his life as anonymously as he likes especially during his adolescence & be known amongst his community for who he is & not for what his mother portrays online. It’s been really nice since. My friends & family are the only ones who get to see photos of him & that makes things more special for all.
Difficult to watch this as an advocate for children in the US. We're dealing with the Ruby Franke case and many other TH-camrs who have made millions off exploiting the privacy of their children. God help these unfortunate children. These parents are narcissists who unfortunately encourage other like-minded parents.
It’s so creepy and sad. Their entire lives are like a fake reality - like a real-life Big Brother show. I don’t know how you mentally come back from this if you grow up in it.
As the kids are featuring in the videos, he should be keeping a part of the earnings aside as part of their share . It's same as child actors & their parents
Anna isn't innocent in this spiel, but I hope she will come to her senses and leaves Jonathan with the kids. She was so young when they go together and it seems like he completely took her over. She seems so sad and hardened now.
Yes, she was just 19 years old, and I think losing her dad made it for her. Jonathan took over her dad role. She likes the lifestyle that Jonathan's " creative thinking" gives her and her children...
Agreed. checked on them recently, Edwardo now is a tran gender girl, and Anna sharing "her" new life with a gay bestie on socials. They are profiting from their kids for sure.
How is this different than watching any Show on Netflix or regular cable channel shows? People who like to watch these kind of videos will make time. I for one cannot wait for the loss to come in that will not allow families to Vlog their children who are under 16.
What a totally unaware exploiter the husband is .. quite weird - he’s so immersed he seems to have no objectivity - totally obsessed with things and not his family
He might be a narcissist who feels entitled to “utilize” the people in his life for personal gain, the same way you use a fork to eat. He seems cold and indifferent with some fake smiles for the vlogs. He transitioned his child at a really young age and since I don’t trust him, I don’t trust that he would listen to his child if he wanted to stop or slow down the transition.
@@ciaramc29 I think, she already had her channel before he started his. But he started the vlogs on his own channel and later changed the old name of that channel into the family name.
He is hard to watch, she is so sad, and the children don't want to do it - he has a few years before they hate him for this and he will say 'what did i do?' He will lose her - she can't do being ignored for years.
They birthed their employees. Technically, those children are funding their lifestyle. I can only hope that each of these kids have individual bank accounts where the parents, the employers, are putting the kids' salaries on those accounts.
Sad to hear Anna speak about how, if any or all children said they "didnt want to do this anymore", they would accept it but in the clip earlier when the interviewer asks two of them in front of Jonathan they both answer that they dont like it at all and would rather not be in front of the Camera. Also Jonathan saying "thats understandable" followed by awkward silence was so uncomfortable to watch. How can you say you understand but continue then? Then say later on that they would stop if they didnt want to continue? Also if the children are used to cameras shoved up their face from infancy how are they even going to distinguish a life of no cameras and fame if thats all they know? How would they even know thats an option if thats all theyve ever done and theres been no offer to choose from the parents?
I feel for Anna she seems like an abused wife isolated form her friends and family I really hope she gets the help she needs to get the strength to leave him and protect her her children. I have an uneasy feeling about him.
@@maneshipocrates2264they are the ones who put everything on the internet and I agree with what the person commented. The couple puts their life out there because they want to seem normal and relatable and sometimes when people can relate to them it's not always for good reasons just l pick up on certain things since long before they had children and it's not for good reasons. Which is why I stopped watching them a long time ago
"You're just digging a hole." What a freaking ass. These poor kids. She is completely deluded when she says that they could hang it up if one of the kids didn't want to do it anymore. Bull. He would not be having that. He's got some real issues. I can't believe that she can't see it. The rest of the world does
@@Arwa-ny3zx it was uploaded to YT by several channels years ago, and then they were all removed. It’s a 2019 episode of a popular series so there should be several uploads. It’s very bad PR for the dad especially.
The Saccone Jolys started out relatively ok and over the years have just completely lost the plot. The fact that they are having the kids providing their lifestyle is just horrible, especially now that they are getting older. The Internet never forgets. All this will just be absolutely disgusting when Emilia and Eddie are teens and have their mates rub all the cringy and abusive stuff of their whole life into their face.
I use to watch them, relating to them as new parents etc. But now he is nonbinary, their boy is now a girl and everything between. I feel like they are messing these little kiddos up majorly.
I'm 5 minutes in and this really gives me the ick. I never used to notice how they behaved, as a watcher for many years about 8 years ago I was maybe still have. now I can smell how unhappy Anna is through the screen. and they are now also exploring Eddie in the change that has happened. mental
Two things: With Jonathan telling Stacey that Edie says no to everything, it just felt like he was brushing off what she was trying to say, ignoring the fact there may be some direct truth to her answer. Jonathan acts like he’s doing his kids a favor, but he’s really doing them a disservice. I don’t care that they’re not my kids. I can’t help but feel sorry for them. What if they get bullied in school or the videos land in the wrong people’s hands? How are they ever going to be taken seriously? How will they get a job? Even if they do take everything down, people retweet, repost, screenshot, screen share, etc. They will never live normal lives. They’re people, not content or property. There’s this whole new generation of kids out there being introduced to a new kind of trauma. Point two: It doesn’t matter if the video is an adorable toddler building a sandcastle or that same toddler parading around in their mommy’s crop top and high heels. ANY video posted online of a child currently under 13 is exploitation, no matter how wholesome or sweet it may be. Unfortunately creeps can sexualize anything nowadays, which is just flat out weird. All I can do is sit back and wait for the tell-all’s in twenty years.
Honestly, any child under 18 is abuse IMHO. Even teens are at risk of just going along with things because they want to please their parents or don’t know any better.
That father is delusional. The mother to, saying you like to go to private school so we have to keep invading your privacy with camera's even if you do not want it. Very very sad, they are not capable doing a normal job , cashing on their babies is far more profitable.
Yes, it’s very manipulative behavior too, to put it on the children like that when in reality they have no choice in the matter. Parents are supposed to protect their children, and exploiting them like this only does the opposite while _ensuring_ that they will grow up to become adults having to recover from their childhood.
I miss the Anna I used to watch years ago, when she started her channel about beauty, food, traveling etc. She used to be so happy, creative and bubbly. She was my mood booster. She was my inspiration, when I felt lost and disliked myself. She taught me how to be happy and creative with fashion, makeup and in the kitchen. But then it became awkward when her, then boyfriend, took over her channel. She stopped smiling and started to cringe-smiling. Years later... I have not seen her smile for real for many years. She looks drained, emotionally disconnected, chronically tired and depressed. She has bags under her eyes, like she cries a lot, and she really looks sleep-deprived and heavily drugged. I was like this, when I was taking pills for anxiety, XANAX. Like a zombie or a robot. It is so saddening to see her "trapped" in an unhappy marriage, with an abuser, who isolated her and brainwasher. I miss the old happy Anna. I hope that one day she will be able to leave him and put her kids in therapy, because they already need it. The sooner the better for all five of them. Her and her kids too.
What about Anna's 4 innocent children trapped in all of this??? Anna has choice, she has made enough money to give herself and her children a better life. How any parent can put their children through such an ordeal goes beyond me. Anna was not brainwashed, she is complicit. Those children are the innocent in all of this...four children, four lives that are terribly impacted.
@@lauraintheskywithdiamonds9185 Anna is complicit in this relationship. Anna is choosing to be online with her children and manipulates each child on how to be and what to say, the 'Visit to the gender clinic' video is shocking, how Anna's child is publicly stating they are scared and as a Mother she continues to manipulate and force them through the appointment. Anna has a choice, she chose Jonathan for fame and money. Anna was an adult when she made her decision to marry and is still an adult who is choosing to place her children in harms way. If an alcoholic chooses to drink, yes they are addicted and under the grip of alcoholism...but it is them who has to take responsibility for their actions and only them who chooses to get help. You can't blame something or someone else for what that person chooses. This culture of blame has to stop. There are 4 innocent children at risk here, they did not choose any of this and are far too young to be exposed in such a way. This is because of Anna and Jonathan, not one of them but both.
And now they’re exploiting their trans daughter by mentioning she’s trans in every video 🙄. They could just call her daughter but they choose to exploit her label for views.
@@JossBailey-v5c 1. That's not what OP was saying 2. I wish I could sit all of you down and explain UNTIL YOU GET IT that being trans is a thing whether it makes you comfortable or not 3. The problem here is the parents exploiting the child's sensitive situation and making it public knowledge when they should be allowed to explore who they are in private, and then at school if they're comfortable. NOT for internet weirdos to watch and judge
the dad was SO bizarre. most of what he said was focused on himself and the way he spoke to Stacey screamed chauvinist - he didn't care at all about her opinion or perspective and desperately wanted her to agree with him and praise him. complete lack of awareness for how he behaves and comes across but very critical of the people around him. i hope his kids grow up and get the respect and privacy they deserve someday.
He seems like he doesn't know when to stop, he can't see that his wife seems to hate it deep down. This is so sad. I don't know why anyone would watch their videos, especially seeing the sadness behind the scenes that this document has exposed. Worst decision for him to allow this documentary as he has no control of it. Hopefully Anna and the kids escape.
23:20 Mom is lying to herself. She is trying to justify what they are doing by saying that they are lucky and saying things like , "don't you like going to private school? don't you like the things that we've been able to afford for you? or like what we've been able to give you because of this lifestyle?" it's also wild that she is framing it as if her and her husband, the WE in this statement, are taking care of the children solely and giving them this type of lifestyle. Girl. Your children are working for you. Therefore THEY are providing YOU that type of lifestyle. They are an integral part of your brand. You really think you'd have the followers and income that you have currently without involving your children? It's a lie if you believe that. Children are not suppose to provide for themselves and their parents. That is solely the responsibility of the parents. Delusional thinking on both their parts. Just because you don't film them potty training doesn't mean you aren't still exploiting them. Get a grip, they may be "lucky" in your eyes, but their earning what they have. There is no luck involved it's literal child labor.
Agree, its the children that are bringing in the money! They definitely wouldn't have the following without their children and they see nothing wrong with putting their children in danger because who knows what weirdos are watching. Plus what they're doing to their son Eduardo is absolutely terrible and bringing in so much money
Earlier on she claims they are very careful about what they are filming, "we've never shown fights, we've never shown tantrums, we've never shown potty training..." when they literally had social services called to their house because they were punishing one of their little ones for poop smearing with cold showers, repeatedly. That is how they respect their children's privacy. I won't even get into how Edie will feel in a few years about having been TH-cam's and Tiktoks most famous trans preteen, or Emilia who has recently been labeled neurodivergent by Jonathan (and himself, too, of course. Not like there's a pattern)
He answered from a defensive stance. instead of listening and answering with his feelings, he felt the need to be defensive about his "career". He didn't come across as being honest at all.
Their kids are gonna be totally messed up when they are older. Their parents were given the luxury of autonomy and privacy until a certain age but their children won’t know what that feels like and get that same luxury. It can be looked at as though the children’s purpose of their existence is to make money for the family. Very transactional love. Jonathan likes being in the spotlight and on display but the family might not like that over time.
one of them is already messed, Edwardo. they're saying he identifies as a girl now! they've exploited and brainwashed him into thinking like that, and it pisses me off!
Family Vloggers should be banned! They all say that if their kids decide they don't want to be filmed anymore that they will quit, Then they ask the kids and the kid says no but still the vlogging continues. Almost every child says no if they are asked if they like or want to keep vlogging, their answer is ignored. I have yet to see a family actually respect their children's rights and wishes completely, and I mean completely and stop filming them. The children are told that they will not have all the money and nice things if they don't do vlogs. That's forcing them to do something they don't want to do! These parents know their videos and other social media would plummet if they stopped showing their kids. That should tell them they really aren't that great and people don't actually want to see their daily life. It doesn't matter how pretty they paint the picture, they are exploiting and living off their kids. It doesn't matter how careful they are of what they show, perverts aren't picky. They think if they never share their address that they will never be found. If someone wants to find them, they will. It is unbelievable that they risk their kids being bullied, wellbeing, lives and safety for the sake of being social media famous. It's disgusting! They think that if they delete all the bad comments that the kids will not have to see them or deal with negative consequences of being exploited by their parents. They are very wrong in that assumption. With this family, the wife is miserable and the husband is addicted to vlogging and doesn't care what his wife or kids want. He doesn't pay attention to negative comments because there's a lot of truth in those comments and he knows what he's doing is wrong. Their fame and fortune won't last and then what will they do? They should be putting most of the money into trust accounts for their kids when they are adults, the kids are the reason why they have that money.
They even say that they let their children read all the social media comments. That is so sick and twisted. I saw comments of creeps talking about what a pretty girl Edie was ("It's my favorite thing, preteens transitioning from boy into pretty girl" - I reported that one but not sure if it's even against YT policy), then there's all these videos of Emilia "becoming a teen" when she's barely 10 years old... Jonathan is a vile, disgusting human being who'll do anything to make money off of his kids and doesn't give a damn about their welllbeing.
This marriage won't last and neither will the channel. He acts like he has a handle on it all, yet is to enamoured with the fleeting fame and money, and not thinking for the long run..besides also being terribly basic. It's probably the first time he has had any attention in his life. His wife seems to be thinking this through, more honest about her feelings on it all, and yet, at the moment, seems almost trapped in the situation, but I think she's smart enough to formulate a different plan for the future. There is something about this whole situation that seems very shady that will come to light down the road. Eventhough the kids don't know anything different, instinctively they seem to get that it's not right. Overall, it seems sad.
Family life and intimacy should not be for sale . Its just so unsettling to include little people with no right to consent . Or legal protection. Or access to a fair portion of the proceeds to be set aside in trust . I find it ethically dark .
The children were born into being on camera. They don’t know anything else. They don’t know what a life without cameras looks like But, someday they will, and it may not be what they would have chosen. The tell-all book will be written by one of the kids in the future, and we will finally hear the truth.
You should do a segment on The Dougherty Dozen. This woman has 4 bio children and the rest are adopted. She has told the internet and everyone else all of the kids medical problems, where they live, go to school, some of them have FASD and her and her husband drink. She spends over $2000 a week on food and throws most of it away. She is one horrible mother and she lies about everything. She has a manager who is a convicted felon. This family you are talking about are angels compared to the Dougherty Dozen.
@@kellyalexander7347 They are here in the US, in NY and she acts like she is such a wonderful Mom, but believe me, she isn't. She spends so much money and is very wasteful. She has a lot of followers, but she has more dislikes than likes.
Yessss, she wastes SO MUCH FOOD. It's insane. She feeds her kids garbage and spends way too much money on their birthdays. I bet they are spoiled rotten. I feel so bad for the kids having everything of their lives on TH-cam.
@@gwendolyn0515 Isn't she horrible? Do you remember when she made those 200 sandwiches and said she gave them to a shelter? Come to find out, she threw them in the trash.
@@hoosierladyus48YES. The shelter didn't accept open foods. She could make videos donating stuff and it would have a lot of views, idk why she doesn't. It would be amazing to help her comunity. This TH-cam money wont last forever.
Wait I have found the words. It is unsettling to see a grown man so obsessed with documenting his family, being somewhere but behind a camera. He is there but is not. He loves the fan base. He loves his fame. Family is secondary. This is so controlling and abusive in a very disturbing way to me.
Don't feel sorry for the wife, have you seen her recent videos?? She is just as narcissistic and money hungry. Both of them will stop at nothing to exploit their children.
"I've got to find my jonathan." LMAO. He is a sketchy nightmare. That isn't coming from a place of jealousy, that is coming from a place of the fact that I have eyes and ears. Yikes
The mother looks like she did not want people in her home, she does not smile for the first quarter of the show. She also gives dad some weird looks. She also mentioned that she did it for fun but hubbly did it for money.
I really hated it when they said when there's negative comments just think we only have this house, etc. because of our channel.. It's a choice that the parents made not the kids!
ALL family vlog channels (with minor children) should be directly monitored by CPS/DHS. Random home visits included. The mother admits they utilize manipulative tactics to get the children to "agree" to keep filming to continue the MATERIAL lifestyle that the KIDS provide, not the parents. If it was the parents' channel, then the parents could start a couples channel, excluding the children, but we know their BUSINESS would fail under that model.
I believe it is absolutely wrong of others to assume immediately that DHS/CPS/or whatever entity should be involved in a parents life because of the decisions they make for their children unless it is obvious it is detrimental to them. I'm a former employee of the Child Welfare League of America, the people that provide the training materials for the Department of Human Services. It is not the job of the DHS/CPS to decide what is right or wrong for someone's children. They are there for when it is obviously destructive to a child.
I think you are absolutely mental for saying this. There are people out here unaliving their children, locking them in cages etc and THIS is what you think the already overwhelmed dhs/cps should be concerned with?? Oh please
The replies to this comment absolutely display why minor children shouldn’t be allowed to be used on social media. The child absolutely is non-consenting. They are not old enough to have the mental and emotional capacity to be able to give their consent, and therefore it is a form of abuse. The fact that anyone thinks family vlogging is OK despite all the obvious problems with it (even someone who works in child welfare commenting it’s ok) is shocking.
@@MissouriCrookedBarnHomesteadshocking that someone who works in child welfare would think using children on social media is ok. If you believe that you should absolute not be working in the field
This family is gross, well mostly the narcissistic father. Outing their 7 year old son as tens & exploring a transition at such a young age online is insanity. I can’t stand the sight of him!
If anyones interested, kids ages as of 2023: - Emilia 11 - Edie 9 - Alessia 6 - Andrea 5 Edie came out as trans about 2 years ago and Jonathan's videos are mainly about her and Emilia. They've been facing a lot of criticism for exploiting the kids and Edie's transition.
@@dontmindme.imjustafraidofe9327I don't watch their videos but I do agree that the kids are being exploited especially Edie, she is still so young is out there for everybody to see. Kids deserve privacy.
@@gwendolyn0515 Oh thank God you think the same way. I always feel so alone thinking like this. So many commenters out there thinking I’m being dramatic when I talk about this. “It’s not your kid. They can do whatever they want,” The only thing I contribute to any family vlog with children under 13 is a view and that’s it. Nothing more.
The husband is super narcissistic vibes. The conversation at the end with Stacey was super awkward, and his response to her question about pdf files was very uncomfortable.
in my opinion publishing content from minors under 14 who cannot and are not capable of giving consent should be illegal, and no parent worth of that title should do so,a responsible parent should realize that these images, even simple photos of family occasions on Facebook, are visible to anyone including perverts of all kinds, family influencers and those who exploit their children for views and money are disgusting
I agree to some extent but perverts will always find kids. When I turned four or five my family put my picture in the local paper with a birthday greeting. A stranger called our landline and asked if he could talk to me.
@@miramataija1628 of course the perverts would still find a way but so things are made easier for them by the parents of the minors themselves, you cannot compare a photo in the newspaper to the fact that nowadays the concept of privacy no longer exists and it is normal to publish photos of minors since they are still in the mother's womb on social media of any kind
Anybody who exploits their own children doesn’t deserve them. Everybody should follow and support The Dad Challenge Podcast because he is one of the few people trying to stop this type of child exploitation! Children online are not protected!
@@80sCanadian he actually has a great response for that- he promises every family vlogger that once they take down all their videos, he will take them down as well. And he encourages them to do so in every single video.
@@80sCanadian I don't see things that way, but you feel free to have your opinion. He's doing more than you are to change these parents minds and get th to take their videos down.
@@Nemenvagyokna no, you clearly haven't wat he's him because that is not what he does. Have a conversation with him sometimes. He responds. That's what I did and I completely agree with him now. He also blocks them out.
@@Nemenvagyokna and read my previous comment about his response to when people say that. He has stood by it and followed through, because he has gotten some famoly vloggers to stop and take down their videos, and he as a result took down his videos about them. H: doing more to protect those children than anybody else is. Certainly more than TH-cam ever has and ever will.
I think the issue with saying 'my kids are happy doing it" is that they're just kids - they don't understand what they are doing. They can't give an informed consent because they simply cannot comprehend what imact this might have on their lives. I also stronly disagree with what he said in the end that all kids might looks at something they parents did in the past and be embarased - but that's different. What parents did in their past has nothing to do with parents making their children do things. There are so many examples of children being exploted in the past that are now grown ups and all are saying it destroyed them. There really has to be some form of regulation of family vlogging, I really think so.
This was filmed years ago. which makes me sad because they are still doing this. their oldest daughter is now a teenager and shown wearing short skirts and makeup, and those are the most viewed shorts they have. i wouldnt be surprised if they're on tiktok and i know for sure a lot of pervs are watching that. its child abuse
Im only 2:02 into this and the "I brought you the best baby, we're always camera ready" had me physically cringing. I HATE using the word "cringe". Lol
IF THE MOM IS SO WORRIED ABOUT TELLING FOLKS WHAT THEY DO… that should tell her something!! Using your kids to hustle off isn’t right Jonathan WAKE UP!
After watching I love how Anna really opened up easily and told it like it is for her. Proud of her for telling her feelings. ❤ (I really wonder if not seeing dad at the puppet show was a edit!?)
At the school I work teachers aren't allowed to post pictures of the children's faces. Not even in closed groups. It is very strict. Isn't there some child protection service in the U.K. "Jonathan is number one for me." That is obvious. He is more important than her children.
The fact that Anna said her husband is her "number one" above her children really threw me off... I used to watch this family all the time but now something about them is just off.
I used to watch the Saccone-Joly's all the time. Then the pandemic hit and I started working from home and didn't really want to look at a computer screen more than I had to. Seeing Jonathon and Anna now they seem so different. IMO they don't come off as connected as a couple at all. I know they say otherwise but it just doesn't come across.
I hate cameras . I always have . I'd be very traumatized by this lifestyle . Some people are low key . I'm one . No pics , no fuss , leave me be , please .
I discovered Stacey's videos today and must admit I know why people socialize less in person now... a few friends have asked me if I wanted to hang out and I so prefered being chill at home watching her videos!! crazy!!! I know... but this seems to be the new normal and don't get me wrong I love what she does, just that people engage way to much to internet and not real people now a days. Or at least I am starting to notice that...
I think one state in the US (maybe Illinois?) just passed a law to this effect. Hopefully more states and countries follow suit, and fast. Or simply outright ban this kind of content.
No, there are no laws protecting the children. There was a law in one state that is being put into effect, but no word on how effective it is yet or anything.
I used to watch their vlogs back in their earlier days, and even admitting it is embarrassing to me, because in retrospect I wish I didn't. How does a child even know the logic behind consenting to being exposed to strangers? They're kids, they cannot consent because they don't know any better, but the parents do. Man, Jonathan Joly did not age well, after adding a few years to my life, I realise how uncomfortable he makes me. He has crazy eyes.
The dad's just all about "me, myself and I"
It's crazy to see what people are doing for money, regardless on the marks it might leave on their kids
Omg look at what Jonathan joly is doing now…. He’s exploiting his son as a girl.
25:06 - he waited an awfully long time to answer that question! And then, finally, he comes up with, "I don´t know." REALLY?!
Jonathan and Anna fully understand that their children are not consenting to being plastered on the internet...and they're doing it to them anyway.
Yep, so they get attention, and the kids help financially support their lifestyle. All they care about is themselves
It’s called Money 💰
This whole video is such weird vibes. But right off the bat this guy roasts having his kids, then insults the interviewer by asking her to change her looks for his VIDEO.
“Don’t you like going to private school? Don’t you like the things we’ve been able to afford for you?” Is a disgusting response and tells me everything I need know about what she really cares about.
And she goes on to add speaking on behalf of what she’ll telll her kids when they read negative comments about themselves “don’t let the comments affect you, it’ silly.” She herself goes MIA in their videos because she’s negatively affected by the comments. How the hell would she expect her kids to. It difficult for adults to deal with the comments, let alone children.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall when explains to her kids that they, as children, worked to support there own ‘lavish private school and pretty things lifestyle’ that she deems important. Her children will stop speaking to her. Mark my word.
Her reasoning is hectic. I think Hubby figured out a good way to bring in income and she is thumb sucking excuses to support his endeavors. I'm sure she would give up the filming in a heart beat. Maybe not the lavish lifestyle, but definitely the filming. He's on a roll.
@@gabriellawebber548she had a channel before they met she’s just as thirsty for attention
Their kids bully others in that private school
Stacy really got him with the masturbation question 🤣
* ~~ 2024 update ~~ *
EMILIA
11 years. The dad started calling her a "preteen" when she was like 8 and then upgraded to "teenager" around 10, constantly clickbaiting with borderline inappropriate titles/thumbnails. The girl didn't want to be filmed then and she doesn't want to be filmed now. The dad said in the documentary he doesn't film the kids in compromising situations but in reality he makes a habit of doing so.
EDUARDO
9 years. Is now a "trans girl" called "Edie" and the new favourite child to exploit (approx. 90% of their content). The parents have been blatantly lying to his face about really serious stuff like that he's an actual girl now and will be able to give birth to babies just like a real woman, and the sweet little child you see in this documentary is now a sassy Tiktok trainwreck dressed exclusively in crop tops and tight leggings showing off his parts. Both older kids have 100% free reign of the internet at all times.
ALESSIA
Completely ignored, might as well not exist.
ANDREA
5 years old but still "the baby" because the parents can't be assed to raise him, to the point where he's wearing a bib(!), stays up all night, curses all the time and regularly hits his siblings - and the parents just shrug. The mum has made it her thing that she's a "toxic boy mum" who prefers her "only" boy to the other children and forgives him everything.
Oh yeah, and mum got a tummy tuck and a boob job for the money they earned exploiting the children, because of course she did.
I'm torn between a morbid curiosity and not wanting to be the umpteenth viewer disrespecting the children's privacy
Yeah I stopped watching years ago when the transitioned Eduardo because the dad has his own issues. They discussed me.
That sounded so dystopian that I took it as a joke. I just checked, and it is for real! 😳 That man looked like an awful narcissistic controller, with serious issues of self-esteem, but I wouldn't tought that life would have been so dark for those poor kids 😢
I stopped watching years ago, when Eduardo was Eduardo, I don’t know Alessia and Andrea. Thank God I didn’t have to watch that abusive Edi behaviour….
Mom already had unnecessary face lift making her look even faker and crazy
Narcissistic abuse at its finest. The wife looks quite traumatized and dissociated too. Something deeper, darker going on here (in my opinion).
That is exactly how I interpreted this too!! The dad has no idea how his actions are destroying his family. This isn’t going to end well
Absolutely. Scary.
Got the same vibe
I absolutely felt the same…….
I agree
The father is evil, there is something really wrong with him. Like in not a good way, he is a creep.
Yep! The vibe he exudes makes me super uncomfortable
Y'all I just realized why this family seems so familiar. This family has made their former son, Eduardo into a girl named Eddie (pronounced E - D). There are rumors of them also trying to conform their youngest son into a girl as well. Their whole platform is about how Eddie is trans. What they did to their child is disgusting.
He is irish. They are all vile
I agree
He's a little man with serious self-esteem issues. I have met many men like this. Is he Italian? He reminds me of so many people. He found a sweet girl with issues herself who adores him, and doesn't care about anything but himself. People like this are truly a problem
NEVER, would I depend on my children for "content" to support my adult bills. They should be ashamed of themselves!!
The dad seems so uncomfortable with Stacey being there and while filming seems almost manic. These guys need to stop
Bingo!
But then he’d have to get an outside job. It may be a lot of time spent, but he does get to be at home and not commute. Apparently, it rolls off his back easier than her.
Ja it's a bit 'off'.....I'm only 15 mins in and feel a bit uncomfortable...mmmm
He likes to be in control...
Fascinating he says “what do you think of MY audience?” Instead of our audience
I noticed that too! He thinks the world revolves around him. A bit narcissistic if you ask me
He wasn't speaking to his wife when he said that so why would he say ours she didn't build anything with him that's not his wife. Some of you are just😂😂😂 their kids will be set in life when they get older. they already have a job and career does your kids already have a promised career.?? 😂😂
Yes, it's all about him!!!
"This is a Jonathan and Anna channel and we don't focus on the kids" yet, all the activities are with the kids, the kids are in EVERY video. No Jonathan this IS a family channel focused around your children who do not want to be filmed.
When the kids grow up, they will be intensely and overly protective of their privacy. It could affect their relationships, in which they don't want to share themelves with others.
I truly believe it should be illegal to put your kids on youtube and profit from it. It is not right, no argument.
Do they have to put money aside like for child actors?
@@loricreednot mostly, no. There are some laws in maybe ohio or Iowa or something but it's not regulated anywhere near enough.
We should ban all child actors by the same logic.
@@peterpoznanski7541 there are protections for children in Hollywood, but I agree with you.
@@peterpoznanski7541 Except that when a child acts in a professional capacity - say for television, a film, a play or even modeling - there is a contract. Laws are in place that limit the hours a child can work depending on their age - and regardless, they’re not shown in their home (which should be a private space) - they’re playing characters in a fictitious setting. That’s FAR from a violation of their privacy.
The problem here is that these children have no guaranteed safe space. There’s always someone watching them - which has to be quite disturbing.
17:30 really showed a lot. If both children are saying no they don't like to be in the videos, then they shouldn't be. The dad said, "that's understandable," when the daughter said she doesn't like being in the video. So what he's saying is that he gets it, he understands it, he knows it bothers his kids, but that still doesn't stop him. And the silence after that statement is wild. The whole vibe shifts in this moment, it's obvious that dad is tense and trying to act cool like this isn't bothering him at all. You are forcing your children to provide for your family. Family vlogs will never be okay, you should not profit off your children. No matter how much these parents justify and minimize what they are doing, they are still exploiting their children for money.
Do you think it would make a difference if the money went into a trust for the kids and the parents got specific paychecks for their work? Or for example Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen, we’re making lots of money young they paid for their parents homes as children is that any different or should we lump them together. I personally believe they are all kinda crap I like the idea of a trust and a normal paycheck for the work to the rents and all rest to the kids
@@merynr15i think it’s better if it’s put into a trust, but it’s still not okay because the children are being forced to work, even Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen were. They don’t get to choose and that’s not okay. They’re supposed to be kids and their private lives should not be shared for the public.
@@merynr15at least Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen, even though growing up in front of millions was not great for them, we’d protected under child labour laws. These family bloggers film their kids constantly. Their kids are constantly “working”
He keeps trying to explain himself! This alone is the answer. He thinks he is the best player in this franchise. He is very selfish but he will not own it. It’s called being arrogant because he controls his Wife and Kids. He’s not providing for his wife and children he is exploiting them and that’s some sort of abuse ( allegedly of course)
It's only acceptable when the children are choosing it themselves.
As a child advocate this is like watching a train wreck. I had to fast forward through most of this to fight the nausea. Fact: Court cases brought by the minors used by adults in these lucrative internet offerings when the minors reach legal age are going to prolific in 10 years.
Seriously! I don't know how this kind of thing hasn't been legislated in some way
Yes exactly its so awful 🥹
It would be veerryy inteesting for Stacey to go back to that family now....
Yeah this was filmed years ago !
I was thinking the same thing !! or the Dougherty dozen (in the US)
I never kept up with them but know of them. How long ago was this? It got worse than this?! 🙈🙊
@@lillustpotion I would say 4/5 years ago! They now (mainly the dad) exploit their trans child for views in a hugely inappropriate way
@@lillustpotion Well, essentially: The dad has been calling the oldest girl a "teenager" since she was like 10 to get clicks from weirdos and she clearly doesn't want to be filmed anymore, but they keep at it. Oldest boy is now a "trans girl" and the parents heavily exploit this and use the poor kid in 90% of their content, lying to his face that he'll be able to do everything a woman does like give birth to babies, and what used to be a sweet little child is now a sassy Tiktok trainwreck dressed exclusively in crop tops and tight leggings showing off his parts. Third child is completely ignored, might as well not exist. Fourth child is 5 years old but still "the baby" because the parents can't be assed to raise him, to the point where he's wearing a bib(!), stays up all night and hits his siblings and the parents just shrug. Oh yeah, and mum got a tummy tuck and a boob job for the money they earned exploiting the children, because of course she did
The dad is CREEPY..I can't put my finger on it...lowkey controlling
The mom is too. She was just being super fake. Both care more about money and what they consider nice things when the best gifts are those precious children they exploit. The kids looked sad to me.
More like highkey controlling.
Controlling, and a bit slow/off.
@@Andrea-ek9cp The kids attached too quickly to Stacey. You know something is wrong when they do that with strangers- Lovely kids, all of them, BTW.
Yeah 1000% he's a pure fucking creep.
So the wife says honestly, “I was just looking for friends but Jonathan saw the potential for money”…… a little while later…. Jonathan “I didn’t commit to this, I was just videoing my life” 😂 the contradiction😂
This is such a hard watch when she asks how he would feel if a pedo was watching his kids and instead of saying disgusted and immediately taking down all videos of his kids, he answers with "that's a hard question, i don't know" what a creep.
$$$
Legit fing weirddd dude
Feel sorry for these kids. This guy is a huge narcissist 😢
Mom is either that too or sociopath.
Absolutely disgusting
He IS😢
@@merricat3025she seems like a naive victim too much maybe a little bit dumb on the side
@@merricat3025 she's most likely a victim
Who else is getting strang energy from the man? I’m not the only one right? Giving unhappy marriage and controlling etc….
You women must not have a man in your life to hate on a family that is doing good in life😂😂😂
@@lamsksk8fam897 I've been with one man for over a decade and this man is creepy. Anna made a mistake marrying him.
You can tell when she says the bad comments are the least of her concerns that she is completely full of it. Her body language says otherwise. She knows this is wrong. They've sold their family life and themselves and their children's souls basically for money. It's such a shame. He's so obnoxious.
"You're just digging a hole right now"
Literally after asking her for her honest opinion. What the hell.
he didn't really wan her honest opinion, if you ask me.
That dad 100% knows that bad people are watching his children and doesn't care because "thats not how he intended for the vlog to be consumed" I got shivers at that part. He knows and dosent care. This is horrific 😢
YES! My blood turned cold at that part! I can't believe it!!
In fairness, everyone (but me) is a bad person.
yes, ABSOLUTELY horrific!!!
If you live and breathe, bad people are watching everyone's children. Get your minds out of the gutter and be real. These people are very mindful of what they are posting and can't let the possible problems stop them from living. People who try to make a mountain out of a mole hill are the controlling ones and make bad events more likely to happen.
He plays into it
Wow Anna really put life into perspective for me when she spoke about being the loneliest when they moved into their big house. She just wants to feel close to Jonathan again. I really loved how she shared that.
The whole family apart from the dad seems dissociated.
And the dad is the controller.
I used to do Instagram, I shared my wedding, pregnancy, birth - the lot.
When my son was 2ish. He started getting recognised, I would receive DMs saying “I saw you in the mall yesterday!” Etc.
That’s when I realised it was time to close my Instagram down. It wasn’t for me. It was for my son.
He should be allowed to live his life as anonymously as he likes especially during his adolescence & be known amongst his community for who he is & not for what his mother portrays online.
It’s been really nice since. My friends & family are the only ones who get to see photos of him & that makes things more special for all.
Difficult to watch this as an advocate for children in the US. We're dealing with the Ruby Franke case and many other TH-camrs who have made millions off exploiting the privacy of their children. God help these unfortunate children. These parents are narcissists who unfortunately encourage other like-minded parents.
It’s so creepy and sad. Their entire lives are like a fake reality - like a real-life Big Brother show. I don’t know how you mentally come back from this if you grow up in it.
Just like the Kendall's, they will even become more famous and riches. Uninteresting.
As the kids are featuring in the videos, he should be keeping a part of the earnings aside as part of their share . It's same as child actors & their parents
Anna isn't innocent in this spiel, but I hope she will come to her senses and leaves Jonathan with the kids. She was so young when they go together and it seems like he completely took her over. She seems so sad and hardened now.
Yes, she was just 19 years old, and I think losing her dad made it for her. Jonathan took over her dad role. She likes the lifestyle that Jonathan's " creative thinking" gives her and her children...
Agreed. checked on them recently, Edwardo now is a tran gender girl, and Anna sharing "her" new life with a gay bestie on socials. They are profiting from their kids for sure.
What’s incredible is that 1.9 million people tune in to this - do they not have lives of their own?
Well they dont its more 30k-60k
How is this different than watching any Show on Netflix or regular cable channel shows? People who like to watch these kind of videos will make time. I for one cannot wait for the loss to come in that will not allow families to Vlog their children who are under 16.
Yikes. Those kids are going no contact the second they turn 18. They're gonna need so much therapy.
What a totally unaware exploiter the husband is .. quite weird - he’s so immersed he seems to have no objectivity - totally obsessed with things and not his family
He might be a narcissist who feels entitled to “utilize” the people in his life for personal gain, the same way you use a fork to eat. He seems cold and indifferent with some fake smiles for the vlogs. He transitioned his child at a really young age and since I don’t trust him, I don’t trust that he would listen to his child if he wanted to stop or slow down the transition.
He said it started out as his channel after she'd already said she made it.
@@ciaramc29 I think, she already had her channel before he started his. But he started the vlogs on his own channel and later changed the old name of that channel into the family name.
His voice annoys me
He is hard to watch, she is so sad, and the children don't want to do it - he has a few years before they hate him for this and he will say 'what did i do?' He will lose her - she can't do being ignored for years.
This comment sums it up so well.
She's a vacant material girl who's is realising more and more that it wasn't worth it.
They birthed their employees. Technically, those children are funding their lifestyle. I can only hope that each of these kids have individual bank accounts where the parents, the employers, are putting the kids' salaries on those accounts.
Sad to hear Anna speak about how, if any or all children said they "didnt want to do this anymore", they would accept it but in the clip earlier when the interviewer asks two of them in front of Jonathan they both answer that they dont like it at all and would rather not be in front of the Camera.
Also Jonathan saying "thats understandable" followed by awkward silence was so uncomfortable to watch. How can you say you understand but continue then? Then say later on that they would stop if they didnt want to continue?
Also if the children are used to cameras shoved up their face from infancy how are they even going to distinguish a life of no cameras and fame if thats all they know? How would they even know thats an option if thats all theyve ever done and theres been no offer to choose from the parents?
I feel for Anna she seems like an abused wife isolated form her friends and family I really hope she gets the help she needs to get the strength to leave him and protect her her children. I have an uneasy feeling about him.
Exactly what i was coming to say… i dont think she has any choice or say on what jonathan shares online either
I should note that Anna is now infamous for her favouritism towards her son and her videos on Tiktok clearly show it
Why? Did she tell you this? A Keyboard psychological evaluation, we think?
Absolutely agree
@@maneshipocrates2264they are the ones who put everything on the internet and I agree with what the person commented. The couple puts their life out there because they want to seem normal and relatable and sometimes when people can relate to them it's not always for good reasons just l pick up on certain things since long before they had children and it's not for good reasons. Which is why I stopped watching them a long time ago
"You're just digging a hole." What a freaking ass. These poor kids. She is completely deluded when she says that they could hang it up if one of the kids didn't want to do it anymore. Bull. He would not be having that. He's got some real issues. I can't believe that she can't see it. The rest of the world does
There’s a reason they fought so hard to wipe this video off the internet. Filming babies has no “implimications” as he says. Right.
How did they try to wipe it off?
@@Arwa-ny3zx it was uploaded to YT by several channels years ago, and then they were all removed. It’s a 2019 episode of a popular series so there should be several uploads. It’s very bad PR for the dad especially.
The Saccone Jolys started out relatively ok and over the years have just completely lost the plot. The fact that they are having the kids providing their lifestyle is just horrible, especially now that they are getting older. The Internet never forgets. All this will just be absolutely disgusting when Emilia and Eddie are teens and have their mates rub all the cringy and abusive stuff of their whole life into their face.
I use to watch them, relating to them as new parents etc. But now he is nonbinary, their boy is now a girl and everything between. I feel like they are messing these little kiddos up majorly.
As I don't want to know any more, time to ignore them!
Just look what they did to edwardo so sad and shameful 😢
@@crownonpointagree attention seeking narcissists
@@momma2thewilds88oh gosh is that content now?
I'm 5 minutes in and this really gives me the ick. I never used to notice how they behaved, as a watcher for many years about 8 years ago I was maybe still have. now I can smell how unhappy Anna is through the screen. and they are now also exploring Eddie in the change that has happened. mental
Two things:
With Jonathan telling Stacey that Edie says no to everything, it just felt like he was brushing off what she was trying to say, ignoring the fact there may be some direct truth to her answer. Jonathan acts like he’s doing his kids a favor, but he’s really doing them a disservice. I don’t care that they’re not my kids. I can’t help but feel sorry for them. What if they get bullied in school or the videos land in the wrong people’s hands? How are they ever going to be taken seriously? How will they get a job? Even if they do take everything down, people retweet, repost, screenshot, screen share, etc. They will never live normal lives. They’re people, not content or property. There’s this whole new generation of kids out there being introduced to a new kind of trauma.
Point two: It doesn’t matter if the video is an adorable toddler building a sandcastle or that same toddler parading around in their mommy’s crop top and high heels. ANY video posted online of a child currently under 13 is exploitation, no matter how wholesome or sweet it may be. Unfortunately creeps can sexualize anything nowadays, which is just flat out weird. All I can do is sit back and wait for the tell-all’s in twenty years.
Honestly, any child under 18 is abuse IMHO. Even teens are at risk of just going along with things because they want to please their parents or don’t know any better.
@@jarfullofbuttons Yeah, you got a point there.
That father is delusional. The mother to, saying you like to go to private school so we have to keep invading your privacy with camera's even if you do not want it. Very very sad, they are not capable doing a normal job , cashing on their babies is far more profitable.
Yes, it’s very manipulative behavior too, to put it on the children like that when in reality they have no choice in the matter. Parents are supposed to protect their children, and exploiting them like this only does the opposite while _ensuring_ that they will grow up to become adults having to recover from their childhood.
Normal jobs should pay more
I miss the Anna I used to watch years ago, when she started her channel about beauty, food, traveling etc. She used to be so happy, creative and bubbly. She was my mood booster. She was my inspiration, when I felt lost and disliked myself. She taught me how to be happy and creative with fashion, makeup and in the kitchen.
But then it became awkward when her, then boyfriend, took over her channel. She stopped smiling and started to cringe-smiling.
Years later... I have not seen her smile for real for many years. She looks drained, emotionally disconnected, chronically tired and depressed. She has bags under her eyes, like she cries a lot, and she really looks sleep-deprived and heavily drugged.
I was like this, when I was taking pills for anxiety, XANAX. Like a zombie or a robot. It is so saddening to see her "trapped" in an unhappy marriage, with an abuser, who isolated her and brainwasher. I miss the old happy Anna. I hope that one day she will be able to leave him and put her kids in therapy, because they already need it. The sooner the better for all five of them. Her and her kids too.
What about Anna's 4 innocent children trapped in all of this??? Anna has choice, she has made enough money to give herself and her children a better life. How any parent can put their children through such an ordeal goes beyond me. Anna was not brainwashed, she is complicit. Those children are the innocent in all of this...four children, four lives that are terribly impacted.
Because she married someone she taught she knew but didn't...
@@lauraintheskywithdiamonds9185 Anna is complicit in this relationship. Anna is choosing to be online with her children and manipulates each child on how to be and what to say, the 'Visit to the gender clinic' video is shocking, how Anna's child is publicly stating they are scared and as a Mother she continues to manipulate and force them through the appointment. Anna has a choice, she chose Jonathan for fame and money. Anna was an adult when she made her decision to marry and is still an adult who is choosing to place her children in harms way. If an alcoholic chooses to drink, yes they are addicted and under the grip of alcoholism...but it is them who has to take responsibility for their actions and only them who chooses to get help. You can't blame something or someone else for what that person chooses. This culture of blame has to stop. There are 4 innocent children at risk here, they did not choose any of this and are far too young to be exposed in such a way. This is because of Anna and Jonathan, not one of them but both.
She's fully capable of going her own way. She's no victim. The kids are.
This footage is really old Andrea is 6 i think
Jonathan sure gets defensive at the end. i also think videoing his life is now an addiction.
And now they’re exploiting their trans daughter by mentioning she’s trans in every video 🙄. They could just call her daughter but they choose to exploit her label for views.
He’s a little boy child and they added a label and to his confusion for views. So abusive
@@JossBailey-v5c 1. That's not what OP was saying
2. I wish I could sit all of you down and explain UNTIL YOU GET IT that being trans is a thing whether it makes you comfortable or not
3. The problem here is the parents exploiting the child's sensitive situation and making it public knowledge when they should be allowed to explore who they are in private, and then at school if they're comfortable. NOT for internet weirdos to watch and judge
@@JossBailey-v5cshe clearly feels far more comfortable as a girl and there’s no reason to think she’s not
People who exploit their kids are sad, insecure people desperate for attention, no matter how positive or negative it is. It’s insane. 🙄
Money hungry and not caring about the dangers they're putting their children in too
@@Iamhome365 Couldn't have said it better myself.
Money hungry- totally agree!
@@Iamhome365that’s all it is! They know there are predators but the money just comes first
Attention? Money.
the dad was SO bizarre. most of what he said was focused on himself and the way he spoke to Stacey screamed chauvinist - he didn't care at all about her opinion or perspective and desperately wanted her to agree with him and praise him. complete lack of awareness for how he behaves and comes across but very critical of the people around him. i hope his kids grow up and get the respect and privacy they deserve someday.
He seems like he doesn't know when to stop, he can't see that his wife seems to hate it deep down. This is so sad. I don't know why anyone would watch their videos, especially seeing the sadness behind the scenes that this document has exposed. Worst decision for him to allow this documentary as he has no control of it. Hopefully Anna and the kids escape.
23:20 Mom is lying to herself. She is trying to justify what they are doing by saying that they are lucky and saying things like , "don't you like going to private school? don't you like the things that we've been able to afford for you? or like what we've been able to give you because of this lifestyle?" it's also wild that she is framing it as if her and her husband, the WE in this statement, are taking care of the children solely and giving them this type of lifestyle. Girl. Your children are working for you. Therefore THEY are providing YOU that type of lifestyle. They are an integral part of your brand. You really think you'd have the followers and income that you have currently without involving your children? It's a lie if you believe that. Children are not suppose to provide for themselves and their parents. That is solely the responsibility of the parents. Delusional thinking on both their parts. Just because you don't film them potty training doesn't mean you aren't still exploiting them. Get a grip, they may be "lucky" in your eyes, but their earning what they have. There is no luck involved it's literal child labor.
Agree, its the children that are bringing in the money! They definitely wouldn't have the following without their children and they see nothing wrong with putting their children in danger because who knows what weirdos are watching. Plus what they're doing to their son Eduardo is absolutely terrible and bringing in so much money
Earlier on she claims they are very careful about what they are filming, "we've never shown fights, we've never shown tantrums, we've never shown potty training..." when they literally had social services called to their house because they were punishing one of their little ones for poop smearing with cold showers, repeatedly. That is how they respect their children's privacy. I won't even get into how Edie will feel in a few years about having been TH-cam's and Tiktoks most famous trans preteen, or Emilia who has recently been labeled neurodivergent by Jonathan (and himself, too, of course. Not like there's a pattern)
25:00 it’s not an odd question where you don’t know how to feel. Everyone should feel utterly disgusted instantly,
He asks is it a terrible thing? YES JONATHAN it IS a terrible thing
Yea what an odd thing to say and odd reaction, almost like if they don’t know that it’s happening it doesn’t really bother them 😮
Yeah that was a very telling moment
MY JAW HIT THE FLOOR
He answered from a defensive stance. instead of listening and answering with his feelings, he felt the need to be defensive about his "career".
He didn't come across as being honest at all.
Their kids are gonna be totally messed up when they are older. Their parents were given the luxury of autonomy and privacy until a certain age but their children won’t know what that feels like and get that same luxury. It can be looked at as though the children’s purpose of their existence is to make money for the family. Very transactional love. Jonathan likes being in the spotlight and on display but the family might not like that over time.
one of them is already messed, Edwardo. they're saying he identifies as a girl now! they've exploited and brainwashed him into thinking like that, and it pisses me off!
Family Vloggers should be banned! They all say that if their kids decide they don't want to be filmed anymore that they will quit, Then they ask the kids and the kid says no but still the vlogging continues. Almost every child says no if they are asked if they like or want to keep vlogging, their answer is ignored. I have yet to see a family actually respect their children's rights and wishes completely, and I mean completely and stop filming them. The children are told that they will not have all the money and nice things if they don't do vlogs. That's forcing them to do something they don't want to do! These parents know their videos and other social media would plummet if they stopped showing their kids. That should tell them they really aren't that great and people don't actually want to see their daily life. It doesn't matter how pretty they paint the picture, they are exploiting and living off their kids. It doesn't matter how careful they are of what they show, perverts aren't picky. They think if they never share their address that they will never be found. If someone wants to find them, they will.
It is unbelievable that they risk their kids being bullied, wellbeing, lives and safety for the sake of being social media famous. It's disgusting! They think that if they delete all the bad comments that the kids will not have to see them or deal with negative consequences of being exploited by their parents. They are very wrong in that assumption.
With this family, the wife is miserable and the husband is addicted to vlogging and doesn't care what his wife or kids want. He doesn't pay attention to negative comments because there's a lot of truth in those comments and he knows what he's doing is wrong. Their fame and fortune won't last and then what will they do? They should be putting most of the money into trust accounts for their kids when they are adults, the kids are the reason why they have that money.
They even say that they let their children read all the social media comments. That is so sick and twisted. I saw comments of creeps talking about what a pretty girl Edie was ("It's my favorite thing, preteens transitioning from boy into pretty girl" - I reported that one but not sure if it's even against YT policy), then there's all these videos of Emilia "becoming a teen" when she's barely 10 years old... Jonathan is a vile, disgusting human being who'll do anything to make money off of his kids and doesn't give a damn about their welllbeing.
This marriage won't last and neither will the channel.
He acts like he has a handle on it all, yet is to enamoured with the fleeting fame and money, and not thinking for the long run..besides also being terribly basic. It's probably the first time he has had any attention in his life.
His wife seems to be thinking this through, more honest about her feelings on it all, and yet, at the moment, seems almost trapped in the situation, but I think she's smart enough to formulate a different plan for the future.
There is something about this whole situation that seems very shady that will come to light down the road. Eventhough the kids don't know anything different, instinctively they seem to get that it's not right.
Overall, it seems sad.
It’s happened. Watch their videos now. Disgusting.
Gilded cage!
Whether they’ll grow up to resent it or not, it’s still wrong to post kids online.
“For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”
Amen!
Stacey should go back there now.
Family life and intimacy should not be for sale . Its just so unsettling to include little people with no right to consent . Or legal protection. Or access to a fair portion of the proceeds to be set aside in trust . I find it ethically dark .
The children were born into being on camera. They don’t know anything else. They don’t know what a life without cameras looks like But, someday they will, and it may not be what they would have chosen. The tell-all book will be written by one of the kids in the future, and we will finally hear the truth.
You should do a segment on The Dougherty Dozen. This woman has 4 bio children and the rest are adopted. She has told the internet and everyone else all of the kids medical problems, where they live, go to school, some of them have FASD and her and her husband drink. She spends over $2000 a week on food and throws most of it away. She is one horrible mother and she lies about everything. She has a manager who is a convicted felon. This family you are talking about are angels compared to the Dougherty Dozen.
Have not heard of them either
@@kellyalexander7347 They are here in the US, in NY and she acts like she is such a wonderful Mom, but believe me, she isn't. She spends so much money and is very wasteful. She has a lot of followers, but she has more dislikes than likes.
Yessss, she wastes SO MUCH FOOD. It's insane. She feeds her kids garbage and spends way too much money on their birthdays. I bet they are spoiled rotten.
I feel so bad for the kids having everything of their lives on TH-cam.
@@gwendolyn0515 Isn't she horrible? Do you remember when she made those 200 sandwiches and said she gave them to a shelter? Come to find out, she threw them in the trash.
@@hoosierladyus48YES. The shelter didn't accept open foods. She could make videos donating stuff and it would have a lot of views, idk why she doesn't. It would be amazing to help her comunity.
This TH-cam money wont last forever.
Wait I have found the words. It is unsettling to see a grown man so obsessed with documenting his family, being somewhere but behind a camera. He is there but is not. He loves the fan base. He loves his fame. Family is secondary. This is so controlling and abusive in a very disturbing way to me.
The father feels like a narcissist feeding off his ego from TH-cam... Sad. The wife feels so uncomfortable and sad
Don't feel sorry for the wife, have you seen her recent videos?? She is just as narcissistic and money hungry. Both of them will stop at nothing to exploit their children.
"I've got to find my jonathan." LMAO. He is a sketchy nightmare. That isn't coming from a place of jealousy, that is coming from a place of the fact that I have eyes and ears. Yikes
Omg!this guy doesn't know how he would feel about a guy masterbaiting over his kids. 😭😭🤮🤮
That was the worst part for me. The rest isn’t so bad.
So revolting
The mother looks like she did not want people in her home, she does not smile for the first quarter of the show. She also gives dad some weird looks. She also mentioned that she did it for fun but hubbly did it for money.
I really hated it when they said when there's negative comments just think we only have this house, etc. because of our channel.. It's a choice that the parents made not the kids!
Never was aware of how treasured I should be about my privacy. Learned something. Poor kids!
ALL family vlog channels (with minor children) should be directly monitored by CPS/DHS. Random home visits included.
The mother admits they utilize manipulative tactics to get the children to "agree" to keep filming to continue the MATERIAL lifestyle that the KIDS provide, not the parents.
If it was the parents' channel, then the parents could start a couples channel, excluding the children, but we know their BUSINESS would fail under that model.
I believe it is absolutely wrong of others to assume immediately that DHS/CPS/or whatever entity should be involved in a parents life because of the decisions they make for their children unless it is obvious it is detrimental to them. I'm a former employee of the Child Welfare League of America, the people that provide the training materials for the Department of Human Services. It is not the job of the DHS/CPS to decide what is right or wrong for someone's children. They are there for when it is obviously destructive to a child.
There is alot of good family vogglers at there.
I think you are absolutely mental for saying this. There are people out here unaliving their children, locking them in cages etc and THIS is what you think the already overwhelmed dhs/cps should be concerned with?? Oh please
The replies to this comment absolutely display why minor children shouldn’t be allowed to be used on social media. The child absolutely is non-consenting. They are not old enough to have the mental and emotional capacity to be able to give their consent, and therefore it is a form of abuse. The fact that anyone thinks family vlogging is OK despite all the obvious problems with it (even someone who works in child welfare commenting it’s ok) is shocking.
@@MissouriCrookedBarnHomesteadshocking that someone who works in child welfare would think using children on social media is ok. If you believe that you should absolute not be working in the field
Its a sick society when superficial, greedy, evil people make all the money and live comfortably. Evil should be punished, not rewarded.
This family is gross, well mostly the narcissistic father. Outing their 7 year old son as tens & exploring a transition at such a young age online is insanity. I can’t stand the sight of him!
What’s tens?
@@tiffanyroth1066I think he meant trans?
Your comment is just super gross
I think it’s “content” for him….
I agree . It's exploitive .
If anyones interested, kids ages as of 2023:
- Emilia 11
- Edie 9
- Alessia 6
- Andrea 5
Edie came out as trans about 2 years ago and Jonathan's videos are mainly about her and Emilia. They've been facing a lot of criticism for exploiting the kids and Edie's transition.
You’re so respectful and open-minded. 🥰
He was too young to be trans, they said he knew since one...talk about exploitation and brainwashing.
@@dontmindme.imjustafraidofe9327I don't watch their videos but I do agree that the kids are being exploited especially Edie, she is still so young is out there for everybody to see. Kids deserve privacy.
@@gwendolyn0515 Oh thank God you think the same way. I always feel so alone thinking like this. So many commenters out there thinking I’m being dramatic when I talk about this. “It’s not your kid. They can do whatever they want,” The only thing I contribute to any family vlog with children under 13 is a view and that’s it. Nothing more.
A 7 year old trans person? What an effed up world 🌍.
How are.people even interested in this family? I don't understand the attraction of following a family everyday on TH-cam
The husband is super narcissistic vibes. The conversation at the end with Stacey was super awkward, and his response to her question about pdf files was very uncomfortable.
in my opinion publishing content from minors under 14 who cannot and are not capable of giving consent should be illegal, and no parent worth of that title should do so,a responsible parent should realize that these images, even simple photos of family occasions on Facebook, are visible to anyone including perverts of all kinds, family influencers and those who exploit their children for views and money are disgusting
Well said and I completely agree with you.
I agree to some extent but perverts will always find kids. When I turned four or five my family put my picture in the local paper with a birthday greeting. A stranger called our landline and asked if he could talk to me.
@@miramataija1628 of course the perverts would still find a way but so things are made easier for them by the parents of the minors themselves, you cannot compare a photo in the newspaper to the fact that nowadays the concept of privacy no longer exists and it is normal to publish photos of minors since they are still in the mother's womb on social media of any kind
This footage is 5 years old, and they’ve moved on to equally exploitative short form content.
Do tell
They should be in prison for child abuse
Ruby & Judy from 8 passangers already are so they may be next.
Anybody who exploits their own children doesn’t deserve them. Everybody should follow and support The Dad Challenge Podcast because he is one of the few people trying to stop this type of child exploitation! Children online are not protected!
@@80sCanadian he actually has a great response for that- he promises every family vlogger that once they take down all their videos, he will take them down as well. And he encourages them to do so in every single video.
@@80sCanadian I don't see things that way, but you feel free to have your opinion. He's doing more than you are to change these parents minds and get th to take their videos down.
he is re exploiting the kids, he's a jerk.
@@Nemenvagyokna no, you clearly haven't wat he's him because that is not what he does. Have a conversation with him sometimes. He responds. That's what I did and I completely agree with him now. He also blocks them out.
@@Nemenvagyokna and read my previous comment about his response to when people say that. He has stood by it and followed through, because he has gotten some famoly vloggers to stop and take down their videos, and he as a result took down his videos about them. H: doing more to protect those children than anybody else is. Certainly more than TH-cam ever has and ever will.
I think the issue with saying 'my kids are happy doing it" is that they're just kids - they don't understand what they are doing. They can't give an informed consent because they simply cannot comprehend what imact this might have on their lives. I also stronly disagree with what he said in the end that all kids might looks at something they parents did in the past and be embarased - but that's different. What parents did in their past has nothing to do with parents making their children do things. There are so many examples of children being exploted in the past that are now grown ups and all are saying it destroyed them. There really has to be some form of regulation of family vlogging, I really think so.
I hope that Anna gets the mental health help she needs. She is depressed, withdrawn and exhausted. I wish her nothing but the best.
This was filmed years ago. which makes me sad because they are still doing this. their oldest daughter is now a teenager and shown wearing short skirts and makeup, and those are the most viewed shorts they have. i wouldnt be surprised if they're on tiktok and i know for sure a lot of pervs are watching that. its child abuse
Im only 2:02 into this and the "I brought you the best baby, we're always camera ready" had me physically cringing. I HATE using the word "cringe". Lol
I genuinely wonder how he would cope as a father and husband without the camera.
Yeah it’s the responsibility of it that keeps him going I feel
IF THE MOM IS SO WORRIED ABOUT TELLING FOLKS WHAT THEY DO… that should tell her something!! Using your kids to hustle off isn’t right Jonathan WAKE UP!
After watching I love how Anna really opened up easily and told it like it is for her. Proud of her for telling her feelings. ❤ (I really wonder if not seeing dad at the puppet show was a edit!?)
Stacey, you are a class act! I have been studying your incredible questioning skills. You are gifted!❤
honestly, it seems like the mom is really traumatized and doesn't like doing it. The dad seems very controlling
I hope there will be laws against this soon. this is so fucked up. feels almost like human trafficking
At the school I work teachers aren't allowed to post pictures of the children's faces. Not even in closed groups. It is very strict.
Isn't there some child protection service in the U.K.
"Jonathan is number one for me." That is obvious. He is more important than her children.
The fact that Anna said her husband is her "number one" above her children really threw me off... I used to watch this family all the time but now something about them is just off.
I’m so tired just watching. After a while I would lob that camera so far into the garden lol 😂
True
in a world where anybody can achieve “fame & fortune” …. not everybody was built to hold the weight of it all.
I used to watch the Saccone-Joly's all the time. Then the pandemic hit and I started working from home and didn't really want to look at a computer screen more than I had to. Seeing Jonathon and Anna now they seem so different. IMO they don't come off as connected as a couple at all. I know they say otherwise but it just doesn't come across.
I hate cameras . I always have . I'd be very traumatized by this lifestyle . Some people are low key . I'm one . No pics , no fuss , leave me be , please .
I can't wait till the kid's grow up and end up taking their parents to court
They will be the Drew Barrymores of their generation.
I discovered Stacey's videos today and must admit I know why people socialize less in person now... a few friends have asked me if I wanted to hang out and I so prefered being chill at home watching her videos!! crazy!!! I know... but this seems to be the new normal and don't get me wrong I love what she does, just that people engage way to much to internet and not real people now a days. Or at least I am starting to notice that...
Jonathan is immensely defensive
Most people are,the only difference is he is online and you are not😊
He is a true narcissist!
And offensive, he is quite disgusting and repulsive.
@@Meljpjjjjonly difference is we aren’t exploiting children for views.
Oh snap, I thought I recognized the mom. She's the "toxic boy mom" who's TikTok about favoring her youngest son went viral
Yea I recognized her too 😧
Yeah! Dad really needs to be investigated
After 8 passengers,every one of them family blogging/vlogging channel should be shut down
I love fam blogs but I don't think kids should be the focus. This is extreme
The kids are like "child stars". Do child labor laws apply? Are the parents required to put some of their channel earnings in trust for the children?
I think one state in the US (maybe Illinois?) just passed a law to this effect. Hopefully more states and countries follow suit, and fast. Or simply outright ban this kind of content.
No, there are no laws protecting the children. There was a law in one state that is being put into effect, but no word on how effective it is yet or anything.
Child labor laws don’t apply to social media or reality tv stars.
No laws
I used to watch their vlogs back in their earlier days, and even admitting it is embarrassing to me, because in retrospect I wish I didn't.
How does a child even know the logic behind consenting to being exposed to strangers? They're kids, they cannot consent because they don't know any better, but the parents do.
Man, Jonathan Joly did not age well, after adding a few years to my life, I realise how uncomfortable he makes me. He has crazy eyes.