Here are EV Cars Pros and Cons Explained. Know what all should know in EV Cars before making a purchase decision with dark side of EV Cars Explained for Indian Market
EV is not the future. its Hydrozen cell and flex or hybrid cars. EV will be dead or on ventilator within 10 years. I would by a hybrid or petrol car if buying today and also a big No to diesel cars.
Absolutely rightly said sir. You are the first youtuber to say so. It's the truth and I have been posting the same thing on all the channels which are going ga ga about the low running cost of E.v. vehicles. It's a flop show.
Cons of EV 1. Range will reduce after fee years of usage. 2. Resale value will be very less, as after 7-8 years, battery will be old , replacement would be very costly. Nobody would like to buy 2023 old technology in 2030. 3. Charging points is an issue, especially if you live in apartments or need to travel highways. 4. Its not green fuel. 5. For ride comfort, automatic cars is still an option available.
@@payalb8081 Hydrogen fuel has been into development for almost 3 decades in my knowledge. Still has not been able to come to mainstream even in west. So that too equal to EV, can’t predict the future. Flex fuel, yes can be done.
@@ankushjain6394 Why think 7-8 years, I have seen a Nexon which has done 1.4 lakh kms in 1.5 years and warranty is valid till 1.6 lakh kms only. If battery health has gone below 80% before the 1.6 lakh kms, Tata might change, if not it will be big dent in the pocket of owner as the battery of Nexon prime costs somewhere close to 7 lakhs.
You are the only genuine person telling truth , the huge money spent first from pocket for ev as compared to non ev is not a good financial decision , moreover I guess the pollution caused by vehicles is just about 4% rest is industrial & other pollution , kindly correct me if wrong , thanks 💐
EV can be equated to Technology. It is absolutely true that EV will evolve with Technology. It will go same like mobile and internet technology. Now, as faced earlier that new will replace the old and things get obsolete with time. Even our ic engine vehicles are heavily loaded with technology. They will also face the same obsolescence may be with a lesser degree. So, one have to accept only thing that is constant here is change.
1 major thing you missed, waiting time at charging stations. More and more people are buying evs and charging stations are not upto the mark. People might have to wait hours and hours to charge their vehicles on long trips. This is happening in some countries.
Battey ki chamta dhire dhire kam hoti jaayegi aapki baat sahi hai or bhi points hai ki aap lambi doori ke liye pareshan rahega charging points nahi hai or ho bhi gye to itna woqt kaha hai ki 1 ghante ke liye har 200 km k baad khada hona pade or fir jaise cng ki gadiyo ki kitni lambi line lagti hai to fir inki kitni lambi line hogi socho to 1 ghanta kya mere ko lagta hay 4 ghanta bhi khada hona pade isse jyaada bhi
As the batteries get older their running kms also decreases.. A 500 kms range will soon depreciate to 450 kms, 350 kms, 250 kms etc with every single charge over a period of 3 years, 5 years, etc. Also battery life deteriorates with heat and high temp, so any tropical country like India it's not very good, unlike cold or European countries.
totally depends on charging cycle. Till now 10% degradation is reported at 1.20 lakh km, meaning the car which gave 500km at new will give 400km range when it drives more than 2.5 lakh km tab tak kaafi saving nahi ho jaayegi?
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@@GreenDriveIndia Bhai apne thik kaha...save ho jayegi but 4/5 lakh dekhe AAP battery replace karoge ya....aur 4 lakh lake nayi car loge..... Ev ka jamana abhi Nehi Aya hai...abhi time hai...
Completely agree with all the points, I am not too sure about the future of EVs. I take my car most of the time on long drives and not in city, there is a risk of not having infrastructure setup everywhere to charge. Hybrid cars like Honda city are best but they are expensive. Will prefer petrol / diesel engines over EV.
My initial thought was to buy an EV... But i bought Hyryder with a view to drive it for 7-8 years.. point were resale, high initial cost, my monthly driving would be just 1-2k km
Eye opening information, hands down. ICE has its own pros and cons and it's also equally responsible for environmental degradation and the same thing can be said for EVs too which will certainly exhaust natural resources. However, I do not know if self charging technology from Toyota and Flex Fuel in future, how is this going to improve our environment? Do share your thoughts around Flex fuel and Self charging technology
Self charging cars run on EV mode almost 50-60% of the running...Thus they provide double the mileage of conventional ICE and reduce pollution by similar 50-60%
Higher efficiency from engine to battery and battery to motor in ePower engines so also the most mileage. Basically self charging EV on petrol. But most probably it won't come to India in a long time.
I am an owner of an ev car and have an average running of 1800 to 2000 kms in a month . I would like to throw some light which a lot of people forget , 1) Any ice vehicle's efficiency also decreases over the year 2) The resale value of an Ice vehicle depends on the number of kms it has run and no of years of ownership and the manufacturer itself . Beleive me if you have 160000 KmS on an ICE vehicle no matter how much it cost you during its purchase the resale cost would be very low with the exception of few 3) All EV cars have battery cells which is true for our laptops and battery powered devices only in car batteries the cells are replaceable ,so if you have a cell which is not at par then that gets replaced .4) An average age of ownership of any car in India is between 6-9 years so anyways we Indians are changing cars within this time 5) With new age technologies coming in battery costs will go down 6) there is no such thing as right time , i mean there are a good amount of people who buy iPhones every year but do we ever know what new has come . Just that the tech is new the change shouldn't be done should not be a thought . If people don't buy EV's the problem will still be there , if we consume in mass we solve in mass . No one knows what is right and what is wrong but we are continuously loosing these non renewable resources . Also now we are going in to e20 fuels , do you know the impact of these blending in the life of the engine? Food for thought
Over a period of time the battery cost is going to come down and if mining is an environmental issue then fuel pressing is killing the environment. I understand for ice lovers Change is difficult but unavoidable 🙏
More than an environmental issue,they are a resource issue. Present battery/Traction motor technologies are too much dependent on rare metals , which are called rare for a reason.....That's the reason the battery cost is high, and this lithium and other metal cost is only going to increase as the resources are further depleted. I have never seen cost of rare metals go down in a long run. And most of these rare metals are imported from outside India.
@@drsachin214 you are assuming technology will not change, Saudi is under pressure to diversify as the fual demand will go down. Earlier tata ev plan discarded saying charging network and now environment and rare material. Which will be taken care of very soon with advanced tech. I am sure next week's budget will also have some initiatives for Promoting EVs as this is the future.
Technology will never be cheap. Have you seen mobile phone prices coming down each year. Either it goes up or if the price is almost similar then specifications are degraded. Cost of technology will always go up and will never come down. Don’t fall for those words told by some brainless people.
What is the logic of declining battery cost, when china is the controller of ev batteries around the world. Also it has the largest lithium reserve which it will mine at the last after all reserves around the world will deplete.
I think battery prices are likely to level out and start rising. Indians are not the only ones buying batteries. The Chinese have CATL and they have verticals in raw materials. We don't. Environmental degradation is more hype than fact. Given the density of cars in India, the matter is mostly hype, except where you have an urban conglomeration of 55 million like NCR. Even that would have a fraction of its pollution if the neighbours were nice and stopped stubble burning. I do not think that big, bulky and expensive batteries are the future. They should be left in the past as a stupid mistake similar to the other renewables like solar and wind.
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Good points mentioned . Points are to be noted . We ,mostly think car is an investment property and we dont consider its wear & tear . Essentially , if I buy an electric car at 16 Lakhs Rupees, as against 8 lakhs Rupees for the petrol car , after 8 years ,I will be able to cost effectiveness as against petrol car, at the same time , Battery life is gone in 8 years time. Whereas , petrol car will still give me some return , if I want to sell or exchange it with another car.
Very informative, if lithium is also polluting environment in some way or other, then what other options government? Is hydrogen a good option? If yes why government is not planning to develop its infrastructure? As I have heard hydrogen based cars also give much better driving range as compared to ev’s
The money that you actually spend on petrol or diesel for 8 to 10 years plus petrol car price is equal to the price of an electric car. For example Tata Tiago petrol costs 6 to 9 lakhs and Tata Tiago Electric costs 8.5 to 12.5 lakhs. Baat wahi pad jaati hai.....lol!!!
It's a useless argument....what u get with a. Ev is a silent 🔕 drive ...no noise.. No nonsense...instant pickup and torque...low running cost..low to nil maintenance..u get added advantage of some govt discount..only 5%tax slab u pay...many many benefit that u won't get with ICE 🚗...EVEN IF U THE HIGHER PRICE THAN UR PETROL ...U GET THESE ADDED ADVANTAGE...so highly recommend
There are many other challenges in EV car adoption. Some of them are: 1. Lack of charging infrastructure. A massive investment is required to come up with a workable solution. 2. Upgradation of the electrical grid Pan India to handle the excess peak load, which will be a real challenge if more than 5% vehicles in India are EV. 3. Ability to handle discarded Li ion batteries after they reach their end life. Remember, each car will throw up about 400 kgs or more of Li ion batteries. 4. Increasing electricity production by whatever means. It would mostly be thermal and gas fired plants. 5. Ability to source critical metals for EV production i.e. Lithium, cobalt, silver, copper, nickel among others. While these are being used in conventional cars, their requirements for EV production will be manifold. We will be totally dependent on foreign countries for their availability. Remember the 'chip shortage' a year back!
Keep aside the lithium mining issue, electricity doesn't grow on trees. EV cars are basically handing over your trash to someone else, who'll dump it in the open, and feeling holier just because you're not doing it yourself.
Well, I think your understanding might be that petrol and diesel grow on tree? If there a road map that some day in future petrol and diesel will cause no pollution? For your knowledge, even today in india 55% of electricity comes from renewable sources. All incremental energy is coming only from renewable. So all new energy demand from ev will be met by renewable only. Tell me how petrol or diesel is better?
The whole idea for switching to EV cars was to reduce the amount of internal combustion gasses and noise pollution in residential areas and improve quality of life. It was never to be cheap and affordable or to save planet!! If you are buying EV thinking it will save money, you are week in maths surely. Tiago that cost 8lakhs now, won't even fetch 1.5-2 lakh resale value after 5 years! coz 30-40 hazaar laga ke engine naya karwane ka option nahi hai 😀
Bratha well said good to hear pros and cons excellent analysis and good presentation, my analysis is has such ev cars are for our good our buying of petrol and desiel dependence on Saudi countries russia etc money is saved thousands of crores we are paying to foreign countries for purchasing petol and diesel atmanirbhartha countries money will be in country only imports decreases these money we can use for eradication of poverty education of poor etc and regarding pros and cons in near future it will be rectified craving for new creations will be rectified good earth we can give to our younger generations pollution less
Baat to sahi hai bro Lithium causes more environmental and ethical issues than it prevents.. but baat ye hai ke graphene battery tech bhi aa rhi hai jo ki ek bht major lithium replacement ke taur pe sabit hogi...jo ki tab shayad use me bhi aye jab main khud ev car le saku!!!
Today I have booked a petrol car after giving a deep thought about EV. What stopped me to book an EV? 1. 2022 is too early, I want EVs to mature a little and come up with better range, better battery swapping techniques, 'blasting EV Bikes threat' 2. I didn't want to stretch my budget just because I have scope, instead I wanted to use the rest of the saving as an investment option. 3. The amount of pollution that is generated in Lithium generation is more toxic than carbon-monoxide 4. The amount of savings I make on Petrol are actually more compared to EV (Example: Nexon petrol 10 years running cost vs Nexon EV 10 years running cost when put on excel spread sheet can simply prove it, just takes 10 minutes)
I also feel apart from pollution from Lithium extraction, the charge or power for charging the battery cones from the socket and this power wil come from coal based power plant or nuclear power plant which will pollute the environment elsewhere if not in cities. Zero emission technology would eventually replace the EV.
I followed/follow your videos time to time and I must appreciate your efforts to bring the best possible True to Reality facts. In this Video you tried your best to point out the Dark sides of EV vehicles but sorry to say, you missed out THE DARKEST one. Let me explain. In India nearly 75% of the electricity is being produced through Thermal Electricity by burning Coal which emits enormous heat and smoke (Adding to Global warming and Pollution) So every single EV in India is no way going to do any good to our Climate rather they Shift Pollution from the Place of Consumption to the Place of Production EVs works gr8 in countries where Solar, Wind and importantly Nuclear power are the major sources of producing Electricity So I strongly recommend Indian Govt to focus on Eco Friendly Electricity before encouraging EVs.... Correct me if I am wrong @ Gagan ji and others
If you only look at money, the reason for buying will depend on the number of km run each year. But if we look into ease of use, lower headaches due to maintenance, your contribution to the reduction of pollution, promotion of electric vehicles in India with your wallet, it starts to make sense even if it is slightly costlier over time for now. Coz the other option is to pollute the environment more, more time of the car in the mechanics garage, little more stress due to clutch, gear while driving, etc.
@@ramuji6041 it will not...because petrol price is going to up down.....and running cost of evs can be come down by zero rs....and untile 1.6 lac km service cost of IC engine will be around 2 lac for parts oil and engine parts like filter and ext...
I like the content of your works. A unique type of area you touch upon for advice and awareness. I always like your style statement, always speaking from your car 🗽🐯. I have just booked Venue SX O, Imt
We have still not figured about disposing Aa and AAA batteries and send everything into Landfill. They are all harmful and cause damage to Environment.. par nahin.. sirf ICE to ban kardo....
It is not only about cost but also you are contributing to save the environment. EV will define a class of user. Let us not forget in today's date any car is a luxury for most of the common people. You can not save money by buying a car
Mining of rare metals and the pollution caused by it is equivalent to 3-4 years emission from ICE engines, so your planet-saving hypothesis is false. Secondly, almost 80-90% of the charging stations around India are running on diesel or coal-powered electricity. So basically, you're paying 4-5 lakhs over for a vehicle whose resale value will reduce sharply after 6 years with it already have created more pollution before even coming on road. Yeah, brilliant decision.
How are you saving the environment by using EV if 78 % of your electricity generated comes from Coal+Gas+ Nuclear. I am talking about electricity generated and not installed capacity. There is a big difference between the two!
Tomorrow sources of electricity can be different but then you can't wait to develop technology till that time. EV is a need, sooner or later. We should be happy EV cars, especially our own TATA cars are making a significant progress here. To support this those who are capable, should buy EV cars.
We are mostly dependent on Thermal Power Stations today. Increase in volume of Electric Cars will increase the consumption of electricity that will lead to exponential increase in pollution in nearby areas of the power station,hence by using the EVs we will only shift the location of pollution from cities to rural areas. EVs will be proved really green when we establish more Nuclear Power plants & produce cost effective & pollution free electricity.
Sir, mai ek doctor👨⚕ hu, meri daily 120km ki running hai, 60km up and 60km down.. Abhi mere pass tigor petrol hai, monthly 20000+ ka fuel spend ho jata hai, kya tiago ev shi rhegi mere liye? Mere yaha electricity 🔌cost 7rs per unit hai. Please reply..
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EV cars me bohot upgradation aane wale to hai Lekin companies warranty de rahi hai To hame consider krna chahiye Aur govt ko insurance companies se bat krke battey ka full insurance dena chahiye To EV best option hai Villages me petrol diesel se achha hoga EV use krna Bas EV ki price thodi aggressive ho jaye Kyuki villages me charging ka problem nahi aur jaga ka bhi problem nahi hota I think EV is best, EV is future
If the owner of a EV car uses the car sparingly, then its battery can malfunction and the replacement of the battery would be expensive. I feel an EV owner should drive at least 750 to 1000 kms a month, to keep the batteries in good condition. I learned a costly lesson during Covid. During 2020, I did not drive my petrol car much. Though its battery was fairly new, it started giving problems and eventually, I had to replace it. I wonder what would have happened, had my vehicle been a EV. :)
People who cannot even wait to charge their mobile phone or wait to fill the fuel if 2 cars are ahead of them in que..... What they can wait to charge an EV? NO TO EV unless you own a Ola/Meru cab.
I completely agree with the battery being the biggest cost and when ever we will replace it will be a big expense. But at the environmental end i feel both Crude oil and lithium mining are bad for the environment .
Mere Petrol car me 32000/m Petrol lagta tha, Maine Exchange karke EV leliye, Petrol lagta tha=35000 EV car ka EMI=17,000 Electric Bill=5000 Balance=13000/M Har Mahina Jo 13,000 hai, sal ka hoga=1,56,000 Isi Paisa se Insurance , ETC karke vi paisa khatam Nehi hota , 8 yrs bad gari ko donate kordenge , tab bhi mera luksan nehi hai,
Every battery has a memory effect which reduces it's capacity therefore this requires rapid chargers to remove the effect. This used to be offered only with Logic Trunked Radios for charging the wireless sets I have not seen these in any other devices
Hybrid make sense, considering even on degradation of battery, quick charge & discharge shall always be supported by engine. And kyonki atkinson cycle engine hai to Average achchi hi rehni hai, cause power pushing can happen even with low energy battery and acceleration shall be maintained by engine
EV car is much better option than petrol.. cost as well as environment wise... If your daily running is more than 50kms then you can definitely recover the extra amount within 3-4 years.. Also, battery cost after 8years will be much lesser..do your own study for this..
@@ubcrafts Do you know the amount of resources required to extract oil? It's much more than extracting Lithium. Nobody talks about that as it doesn't make business sense. How will that survive if you buy an EV and use renewable sources to charge it. See this video - th-cam.com/video/i_Co6sAYsOo/w-d-xo.html
Strong Hybrid technology is the only solution presently for EV solutions.. unfortunately Indian government not encouraging Hybrid cars to the Indian market because indian motor company's lack of Hybrid technology.Government they reduced 5% tax for EV cars only, Hybrid still paying 43% tax....also EV infrastructure less in India...
Big fan sir…👍👍👍 Sir jaise phone ko hum full charge karte hai agar hum use nahi karte phir bhi battery drain ho jaati hai 3-4 days mai kya ev mai bhi aisa hota hai full charge kari use nahi kare to battery drain hogi??????????? Sir please reply…
U made a soundful clarification about EV. Does these points also valid for hybrid technology also....i.e the price of the battery and it's life cycle??? Pls define in comment.
Hydrogen fuel cell cars is expected to rule in future,, which is the best replacement of EV cars,, I am thinking to buy petrol car now and replace after 5-6 years with hydrogen car ...
Hydrogen has the highest calorific value of all the elements. Which means that one accident and your car goes boom. In a country where LPG failed as an alternative fuel because of still lesser volatile nature, you think hydrogen will succeed? I highly doubt so.
By looking at such videos, I concluded that, bicycle is also polluting environment due to Steel as well as Tyre manufacturing. Who will sale EV car if it is cheaper that bike, scooter if operating cost is considered!!!
EV is good if one charge give atleast 500 km, full charge take 1 to 2 hrs, less power consumption for recharging battery, for 5 yrs no need to replace battery, battery replacement cost upto 1 Lakh. Finally inbuilt solar panel in car for recharging battery.
E Vs are good for those who travel minimum 100 to 150 kms per day. Whatever the money saved on petrol or diesel has to spend on battery change after 5 years, which will be a huge amount.
AFTER 4 yrs.. YOU ONLY need to replace the battery.. that's all and after 4yrs it will be a much powerful battery at a cheaper cost , which gives more milage
In Indian scenario, EV's are the most polluting vehicles as electricity generation in India is over 60 percent by coal based thermal power plants..add to it T&D losses as electricity is secondary source of energy. You made a good pros and cons discussion. One point which I feel.is missed by everyone is the harmful electromagnetic field created by EV inside the cabin which, May be in longer term will be affecting the nervous system of riders
Do Share your thoughts as Buyer or Owner of EV Cars !!
EV is not the future. its Hydrozen cell and flex or hybrid cars. EV will be dead or on ventilator within 10 years. I would by a hybrid or petrol car if buying today and also a big No to diesel cars.
Absolutely rightly said sir.
You are the first youtuber to say so. It's the truth and I have been posting the same thing on all the channels which are going ga ga about the low running cost of E.v. vehicles.
It's a flop show.
Cons of EV
1. Range will reduce after fee years of usage.
2. Resale value will be very less, as after 7-8 years, battery will be old , replacement would be very costly. Nobody would like to buy 2023 old technology in 2030.
3. Charging points is an issue, especially if you live in apartments or need to travel highways.
4. Its not green fuel.
5. For ride comfort, automatic cars is still an option available.
@@payalb8081 Hydrogen fuel has been into development for almost 3 decades in my knowledge. Still has not been able to come to mainstream even in west. So that too equal to EV, can’t predict the future. Flex fuel, yes can be done.
@@ankushjain6394 Why think 7-8 years, I have seen a Nexon which has done 1.4 lakh kms in 1.5 years and warranty is valid till 1.6 lakh kms only. If battery health has gone below 80% before the 1.6 lakh kms, Tata might change, if not it will be big dent in the pocket of owner as the battery of Nexon prime costs somewhere close to 7 lakhs.
In 5-10 years battery cost will come down and then you can get it replaced with all the advantages of present time? What do you say Gagan ji?
You are the only genuine person telling truth , the huge money spent first from pocket for ev as compared to non ev is not a good financial decision , moreover I guess the pollution caused by vehicles is just about 4% rest is industrial & other pollution , kindly correct me if wrong , thanks 💐
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EV can be equated to Technology. It is absolutely true that EV will evolve with Technology. It will go same like mobile and internet technology. Now, as faced earlier that new will replace the old and things get obsolete with time. Even our ic engine vehicles are heavily loaded with technology. They will also face the same obsolescence may be with a lesser degree. So, one have to accept only thing that is constant here is change.
1 major thing you missed, waiting time at charging stations. More and more people are buying evs and charging stations are not upto the mark. People might have to wait hours and hours to charge their vehicles on long trips. This is happening in some countries.
some time 3-4 hours waiting time for charging.
आप कस्टमर के लिये खड़े हैं। Thats ग्रेट👏
Not other countries, i saw the people ( family ,😌 ) waiting for charging car at hotel , i feel very bad.
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Battey ki chamta dhire dhire kam hoti jaayegi aapki baat sahi hai or bhi points hai ki aap lambi doori ke liye pareshan rahega charging points nahi hai or ho bhi gye to itna woqt kaha hai ki 1 ghante ke liye har 200 km k baad khada hona pade or fir jaise cng ki gadiyo ki kitni lambi line lagti hai to fir inki kitni lambi line hogi socho to 1 ghanta kya mere ko lagta hay 4 ghanta bhi khada hona pade isse jyaada bhi
As the batteries get older their running kms also decreases.. A 500 kms range will soon depreciate to 450 kms, 350 kms, 250 kms etc with every single charge over a period of 3 years, 5 years, etc. Also battery life deteriorates with heat and high temp, so any tropical country like India it's not very good, unlike cold or European countries.
Even I heard the same.
With every recharge, the range is coming down
totally depends on charging cycle. Till now 10% degradation is reported at 1.20 lakh km, meaning the car which gave 500km at new will give 400km range when it drives more than 2.5 lakh km tab tak kaafi saving nahi ho jaayegi?
@@GreenDriveIndia
Electric Vehicles ( EV ) being Green is a False Media Propaganda.
TH-cam deletes comments posted by Desh Bhakt Indians to protect Corrupt / Traitor Politicians.
Please read
Paris Agreement On Climate Change - India Should Not Sign This Agreement scribd
We live in a Toronto, cold winters are also major impacts to loose battery charge and its life, so same issues everywhere man.
@@GreenDriveIndia Bhai apne thik kaha...save ho jayegi but 4/5 lakh dekhe AAP battery replace karoge ya....aur 4 lakh lake nayi car loge.....
Ev ka jamana abhi Nehi Aya hai...abhi time hai...
Completely agree with all the points, I am not too sure about the future of EVs. I take my car most of the time on long drives and not in city, there is a risk of not having infrastructure setup everywhere to charge. Hybrid cars like Honda city are best but they are expensive. Will prefer petrol / diesel engines over EV.
Gem of a channel. You are providing yeomen service to car buyers
My initial thought was to buy an EV... But i bought Hyryder with a view to drive it for 7-8 years.. point were resale, high initial cost, my monthly driving would be just 1-2k km
Only this man pointed out the real pollution happening from EV cars . Petrol/Diesel cars actually pollute the surroundings lesser than ev cars
Eye opening information, hands down. ICE has its own pros and cons and it's also equally responsible for environmental degradation and the same thing can be said for EVs too which will certainly exhaust natural resources. However, I do not know if self charging technology from Toyota and Flex Fuel in future, how is this going to improve our environment?
Do share your thoughts around Flex fuel and Self charging technology
Self charging cars run on EV mode almost 50-60% of the running...Thus they provide double the mileage of conventional ICE and reduce pollution by similar 50-60%
Higher efficiency from engine to battery and battery to motor in ePower engines so also the most mileage. Basically self charging EV on petrol. But most probably it won't come to India in a long time.
@@aashishsingh2001 doesn't make sense for india because it makes the car expensive as you have to build to separate systems in the car.
Actually I am going to book, Tiago ev but there is an element of suspicion, now I will wait, Thanks.
I am an owner of an ev car and have an average running of 1800 to 2000 kms in a month . I would like to throw some light which a lot of people forget , 1) Any ice vehicle's efficiency also decreases over the year 2) The resale value of an Ice vehicle depends on the number of kms it has run and no of years of ownership and the manufacturer itself . Beleive me if you have 160000 KmS on an ICE vehicle no matter how much it cost you during its purchase the resale cost would be very low with the exception of few 3) All EV cars have battery cells which is true for our laptops and battery powered devices only in car batteries the cells are replaceable ,so if you have a cell which is not at par then that gets replaced .4) An average age of ownership of any car in India is between 6-9 years so anyways we Indians are changing cars within this time 5) With new age technologies coming in battery costs will go down 6) there is no such thing as right time , i mean there are a good amount of people who buy iPhones every year but do we ever know what new has come . Just that the tech is new the change shouldn't be done should not be a thought . If people don't buy EV's the problem will still be there , if we consume in mass we solve in mass . No one knows what is right and what is wrong but we are continuously loosing these non renewable resources . Also now we are going in to e20 fuels , do you know the impact of these blending in the life of the engine? Food for thought
Over a period of time the battery cost is going to come down and if mining is an environmental issue then fuel pressing is killing the environment. I understand for ice lovers Change is difficult but unavoidable 🙏
More than an environmental issue,they are a resource issue. Present battery/Traction motor technologies are too much dependent on rare metals , which are called rare for a reason.....That's the reason the battery cost is high, and this lithium and other metal cost is only going to increase as the resources are further depleted. I have never seen cost of rare metals go down in a long run. And most of these rare metals are imported from outside India.
@@drsachin214 you are assuming technology will not change, Saudi is under pressure to diversify as the fual demand will go down. Earlier tata ev plan discarded saying charging network and now environment and rare material. Which will be taken care of very soon with advanced tech. I am sure next week's budget will also have some initiatives for Promoting EVs as this is the future.
Technology will never be cheap. Have you seen mobile phone prices coming down each year. Either it goes up or if the price is almost similar then specifications are degraded. Cost of technology will always go up and will never come down. Don’t fall for those words told by some brainless people.
What is the logic of declining battery cost, when china is the controller of ev batteries around the world. Also it has the largest lithium reserve which it will mine at the last after all reserves around the world will deplete.
I think battery prices are likely to level out and start rising. Indians are not the only ones buying batteries. The Chinese have CATL and they have verticals in raw materials. We don't. Environmental degradation is more hype than fact. Given the density of cars in India, the matter is mostly hype, except where you have an urban conglomeration of 55 million like NCR. Even that would have a fraction of its pollution if the neighbours were nice and stopped stubble burning. I do not think that big, bulky and expensive batteries are the future. They should be left in the past as a stupid mistake similar to the other renewables like solar and wind.
सर ईवी कार फायदे का सौदा है माना कि 7-8 साल बाद बैटरी चेंज करनी पड़ेगी मगर 160000 किमी आई सी इंजन कार चलाने के लिए 7 रुपए किमी की लागत आती है तो होता है 1120000 रुपए। 8 साल बाद 4-6 लाख की बैटरी चेंज होती है तब भी बहुत फायदा है🤷♂️🤷♂️
Ev car तो खरीदने के समय 5 से 600000 ज्यादा ले रही है मिलाजुला कर तो सेम पड़ता है
Best informative video on EV cars ... Thank you for the information.
Good points mentioned . Points are to be noted . We ,mostly think car is an investment property and we dont consider its wear & tear . Essentially , if I buy an electric car at 16 Lakhs Rupees, as against 8 lakhs Rupees for the petrol car , after 8 years ,I will be able to cost effectiveness as against petrol car, at the same time , Battery life is gone in 8 years time. Whereas , petrol car will still give me some return , if I want to sell or exchange it with another car.
Very informative, if lithium is also polluting environment in some way or other, then what other options government? Is hydrogen a good option? If yes why government is not planning to develop its infrastructure? As I have heard hydrogen based cars also give much better driving range as compared to ev’s
Indeed Hydrogen will serve as long term clean mobility solution
People are working under terrible conditions in Congo lithium mines.
The money that you actually spend on petrol or diesel for 8 to 10 years plus petrol car price is equal to the price of an electric car. For example Tata Tiago petrol costs 6 to 9 lakhs and Tata Tiago Electric costs 8.5 to 12.5 lakhs. Baat wahi pad jaati hai.....lol!!!
Who will buy an 8 year old electric car..? The cost of the battery replacement is horrendous ...
Resale values are going to be abysmal
@@dannycbe949 it will gradually come down.
Plus if u r buying on loan u pay interest 😂
It's a useless argument....what u get with a. Ev is a silent 🔕 drive ...no noise..
No nonsense...instant pickup and torque...low running cost..low to nil maintenance..u get added advantage of some govt discount..only 5%tax slab u pay...many many benefit that u won't get with ICE 🚗...EVEN IF U THE HIGHER PRICE THAN UR PETROL ...U GET THESE ADDED ADVANTAGE...so highly recommend
Can anyone guarantee electric unit prices won't go up? Will demand supply law won't apply to electric?
There are many other challenges in EV car adoption. Some of them are:
1. Lack of charging infrastructure. A massive investment is required to come up with a workable solution.
2. Upgradation of the electrical grid Pan India to handle the excess peak load, which will be a real challenge if more than 5% vehicles in India are EV.
3. Ability to handle discarded Li ion batteries after they reach their end life. Remember, each car will throw up about 400 kgs or more of Li ion batteries.
4. Increasing electricity production by whatever means. It would mostly be thermal and gas fired plants.
5. Ability to source critical metals for EV production i.e. Lithium, cobalt, silver, copper, nickel among others. While these are being used in conventional cars, their requirements for EV production will be manifold. We will be totally dependent on foreign countries for their availability. Remember the 'chip shortage' a year back!
Always feels good while listening you.
Feels like my teacher is explaining the concept.
Thanks
Keep aside the lithium mining issue, electricity doesn't grow on trees. EV cars are basically handing over your trash to someone else, who'll dump it in the open, and feeling holier just because you're not doing it yourself.
Omg another super knowledgeable person
True.
Biggest part of EV are energy independance and saving foreign reserve.
Well, I think your understanding might be that petrol and diesel grow on tree? If there a road map that some day in future petrol and diesel will cause no pollution? For your knowledge, even today in india 55% of electricity comes from renewable sources. All incremental energy is coming only from renewable. So all new energy demand from ev will be met by renewable only. Tell me how petrol or diesel is better?
@@manishtmr 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾😎😎😎😎
I believe that strong hybrids are the best option as of now. Government should support it as well.
Param gyani number 6
The whole idea for switching to EV cars was to reduce the amount of internal combustion gasses and noise pollution in residential areas and improve quality of life. It was never to be cheap and affordable or to save planet!! If you are buying EV thinking it will save money, you are week in maths surely. Tiago that cost 8lakhs now, won't even fetch 1.5-2 lakh resale value after 5 years! coz 30-40 hazaar laga ke engine naya karwane ka option nahi hai 😀
True. EV after sale value is about 1.5-2 lakhs after 5 years.
Your info is super good and simple and very obvious but still people like me are unware ki bhaiya ho kya raha hai... thanks bhai
U have valid points sir👍🏻
Bratha well said good to hear pros and cons excellent analysis and good presentation, my analysis is has such ev cars are for our good our buying of petrol and desiel dependence on Saudi countries russia etc money is saved thousands of crores we are paying to foreign countries for purchasing petol and diesel atmanirbhartha countries money will be in country only imports decreases these money we can use for eradication of poverty education of poor etc and regarding pros and cons in near future it will be rectified craving for new creations will be rectified good earth we can give to our younger generations pollution less
Baat to sahi hai bro Lithium causes more environmental and ethical issues than it prevents.. but baat ye hai ke graphene battery tech bhi aa rhi hai jo ki ek bht major lithium replacement ke taur pe sabit hogi...jo ki tab shayad use me bhi aye jab main khud ev car le saku!!!
Today I have booked a petrol car after giving a deep thought about EV. What stopped me to book an EV?
1. 2022 is too early, I want EVs to mature a little and come up with better range, better battery swapping techniques, 'blasting EV Bikes threat'
2. I didn't want to stretch my budget just because I have scope, instead I wanted to use the rest of the saving as an investment option.
3. The amount of pollution that is generated in Lithium generation is more toxic than carbon-monoxide
4. The amount of savings I make on Petrol are actually more compared to EV (Example: Nexon petrol 10 years running cost vs Nexon EV 10 years running cost when put on excel spread sheet can simply prove it, just takes 10 minutes)
Totally depends on ur daily running.. how many km you drive in a month?
Can u please elaborate on the running cost difference between petrol nexon and ev nexon. Or else can u whatsapp or email the excel sheet?
Well put information. As always. Thank you.
I will still go with petrol/diesel anyday. Good points.
I also feel apart from pollution from Lithium extraction, the charge or power for charging the battery cones from the socket and this power wil come from coal based power plant or nuclear power plant which will pollute the environment elsewhere if not in cities. Zero emission technology would eventually replace the EV.
I followed/follow your videos time to time and I must appreciate your efforts to bring the best possible True to Reality facts.
In this Video you tried your best to point out the Dark sides of EV vehicles but sorry to say, you missed out THE DARKEST one.
Let me explain.
In India nearly 75% of the electricity is being produced through Thermal Electricity by burning Coal which emits enormous heat and smoke (Adding to Global warming and Pollution)
So every single EV in India is no way going to do any good to our Climate rather they Shift Pollution from the Place of Consumption to the Place of Production
EVs works gr8 in countries where Solar, Wind and importantly Nuclear power are the major sources of producing Electricity
So I strongly recommend Indian Govt to focus on Eco Friendly Electricity before encouraging EVs....
Correct me if I am wrong @ Gagan ji and others
If you only look at money, the reason for buying will depend on the number of km run each year. But if we look into ease of use, lower headaches due to maintenance, your contribution to the reduction of pollution, promotion of electric vehicles in India with your wallet, it starts to make sense even if it is slightly costlier over time for now.
Coz the other option is to pollute the environment more, more time of the car in the mechanics garage, little more stress due to clutch, gear while driving, etc.
Sir you have higlighted all the valid points .
Thankyou
Good information! As always! 👍👍🙏
Honda amaze cvt or nexon amt petrol?
Strong hybrid petrol cars still make a lot of sense, considering the high purchase cost of EV, range issues, and lesser charging infra in the country.
Excellent
Hello Sirji, which premium hatchback car will be good. I20 or altroz. My budget is almost 8+. Plz suggest
Most logical video...but for daily ride its amazing...battery cost is also 2 rs to 3 rs per km....
And all over, price comes and equal to petrol.
@@ramuji6041 it will not...because petrol price is going to up down.....and running cost of evs can be come down by zero rs....and untile 1.6 lac km service cost of IC engine will be around 2 lac for parts oil and engine parts like filter and ext...
Sir Ur videos are always unique.
So informative... kesey hh aap log. Like it.
I like the content of your works. A unique type of area you touch upon for advice and awareness.
I always like your style statement, always speaking from your car 🗽🐯.
I have just booked Venue SX O, Imt
What is policy for EV? Are they also valid till 15 years like Petrol in NCR?
yes
We have still not figured about disposing Aa and AAA batteries and send everything into Landfill. They are all harmful and cause damage to Environment.. par nahin.. sirf ICE to ban kardo....
You have raised genuine points in connection with EV, thanks.
It is not only about cost but also you are contributing to save the environment. EV will define a class of user. Let us not forget in today's date any car is a luxury for most of the common people. You can not save money by buying a car
No contribution towards environment saving. Mining is not.
Mining of rare metals and the pollution caused by it is equivalent to 3-4 years emission from ICE engines, so your planet-saving hypothesis is false. Secondly, almost 80-90% of the charging stations around India are running on diesel or coal-powered electricity. So basically, you're paying 4-5 lakhs over for a vehicle whose resale value will reduce sharply after 6 years with it already have created more pollution before even coming on road. Yeah, brilliant decision.
How are you saving the environment by using EV if 78 % of your electricity generated comes from Coal+Gas+ Nuclear. I am talking about electricity generated and not installed capacity. There is a big difference between the two!
Tomorrow sources of electricity can be different but then you can't wait to develop technology till that time. EV is a need, sooner or later. We should be happy EV cars, especially our own TATA cars are making a significant progress here. To support this those who are capable, should buy EV cars.
And also electricity in our country is produced in Coal based thermal plants. So more EVs = More coal use = more pollution.
Etios liva ya etios croos le sakte hai kya?dono ki performance kaisi hai dono ki mileage kitni hai aur donon mein se kaun si le ya koi dusra option
great explanation. No one inform me about it. Kudos
Pata nahin Kab Tata Nano electric aayegi...I am hoping it to cost between 4 to 7 lakhs....
आप कस्टमर के लिये खड़े हैं। thats great👏
We are mostly dependent on Thermal Power Stations today. Increase in volume of Electric Cars will increase the consumption of electricity that will lead to exponential increase in pollution in nearby areas of the power station,hence by using the EVs we will only shift the location of pollution from cities to rural areas. EVs will be proved really green when we establish more Nuclear Power plants & produce cost effective & pollution free electricity.
Sir, mai ek doctor👨⚕ hu, meri daily 120km ki running hai, 60km up and 60km down..
Abhi mere pass tigor petrol hai, monthly 20000+ ka fuel spend ho jata hai, kya tiago ev shi rhegi mere liye?
Mere yaha electricity 🔌cost 7rs per unit hai. Please reply..
Go for nexon prime ev.... And if u want much more range for maxx.... And if u drive like a showoff chapri go for mzg zs ev face-lift
एनवायरनमेंट एनवायरनमेंट सब कहें , एनवायरनमेंट बचाए न कोए ।
एनवायरनमेंट आड़े सब करें धंधा, साबुत बचा न कोए ।
अर्थात वातावरण बचाने सभी कह रहे हैं परंतु वातावरण बचाने के नाम पर सभी कंपनियां व्यापार कर रहीं है । जनता, सरकार और कंपनी सभी इस मालिन खेल में मिलीं हुई है इसलिए कोई भी साबुत नहीं बचा है ।😜
EV cars me bohot upgradation aane wale to hai
Lekin companies warranty de rahi hai
To hame consider krna chahiye
Aur govt ko insurance companies se bat krke battey ka full insurance dena chahiye
To EV best option hai
Villages me petrol diesel se achha hoga EV use krna
Bas EV ki price thodi aggressive ho jaye
Kyuki villages me charging ka problem nahi aur jaga ka bhi problem nahi hota
I think EV is best, EV is future
What a great level of awareness.
This is absolutely right information you have mentioned
If the owner of a EV car uses the car sparingly, then its battery can malfunction and the replacement of the battery would be expensive. I feel an EV owner should drive at least 750 to 1000 kms a month, to keep the batteries in good condition. I learned a costly lesson during Covid. During 2020, I did not drive my petrol car much. Though its battery was fairly new, it started giving problems and eventually, I had to replace it. I wonder what would have happened, had my vehicle been a EV. :)
Eye opening information in this video. Anyday i would give preference to ICE engines over EV cars
I will go for petrol or diesel definitely
People who cannot even wait to charge their mobile phone or wait to fill the fuel if 2 cars are ahead of them in que..... What they can wait to charge an EV? NO TO EV unless you own a Ola/Meru cab.
You are really good at it 👍🏻
Excellent Analysis I watch all yr videos -If you run more than 5000km per month go EV else go fossil fuel
Alwss so informative to hear ur reviews...👌
I completely agree with the battery being the biggest cost and when ever we will replace it will be a big expense.
But at the environmental end i feel both Crude oil and lithium mining are bad for the environment .
You have not covered BATTERY REPLACEMENT cost
Please include it
Dear electricity rates are in slabs. It would be only cheap if you are having rooftop solar
Mere Petrol car me 32000/m Petrol lagta tha,
Maine Exchange karke EV leliye,
Petrol lagta tha=35000
EV car ka EMI=17,000
Electric Bill=5000
Balance=13000/M
Har Mahina Jo 13,000 hai, sal ka hoga=1,56,000
Isi Paisa se Insurance , ETC karke vi paisa khatam Nehi hota ,
8 yrs bad gari ko donate kordenge , tab bhi mera luksan nehi hai,
your inputs are just amazing... always !!
हमारे साहब के ध्यान में मत लाओ कि ev सस्ती है.. हमारे साहब रातोरात बिजली महेंगी करेंगे.. जनता उनसे ज्यादा खुश नही रहनी चाहिए.. ऐसा भी तो हो साकता है..
Very good ward bro
Every battery has a memory effect which reduces it's capacity therefore this requires rapid chargers to remove the effect. This used to be offered only with Logic Trunked Radios for charging the wireless sets I have not seen these in any other devices
Hybrid make sense, considering even on degradation of battery, quick charge & discharge shall always be supported by engine. And kyonki atkinson cycle engine hai to Average achchi hi rehni hai, cause power pushing can happen even with low energy battery and acceleration shall be maintained by engine
Very correct Sir
6 disadvantage is Disposal of these battery is also harmful to nature.many European countries are facing this challenge.
Sir, I don’t agree on resale in couple of years the battery cost will drastically go down and you can replace the battery in 1 or 2 lks
QUESTION OF MINE IS - sir these Ev are more expensive its ok but there charging is nightmare in budget cars like nexon
EV car is much better option than petrol.. cost as well as environment wise... If your daily running is more than 50kms then you can definitely recover the extra amount within 3-4 years.. Also, battery cost after 8years will be much lesser..do your own study for this..
Batteries are not environment friendly its a environment killer… read it
@@ubcrafts environmental killer or saudi killer🤣🤣
@@ubcrafts Do you know the amount of resources required to extract oil? It's much more than extracting Lithium. Nobody talks about that as it doesn't make business sense. How will that survive if you buy an EV and use renewable sources to charge it. See this video - th-cam.com/video/i_Co6sAYsOo/w-d-xo.html
@@batonline1 and the subsidy the oil sector gets to make itself look profitable business...
Strong Hybrid technology is the only solution presently for EV solutions.. unfortunately Indian government not encouraging Hybrid cars to the Indian market because indian motor company's lack of Hybrid technology.Government they reduced 5% tax for EV cars only, Hybrid still paying 43% tax....also EV infrastructure less in India...
Sir .please clarify whether subsidy is available for tiago in any state ??
Mat kharido bhai ....petrol lelo ..trust me... Long term mein u wont regret for this decision.
Thanks for good suggestion dear
@@themuscleboy goodluck !! Hope u able to choose the best one for u
Big fan sir…👍👍👍
Sir jaise phone ko hum full charge karte hai agar hum use nahi karte phir bhi battery drain ho jaati hai 3-4 days mai kya ev mai bhi aisa hota hai full charge kari use nahi kare to battery drain hogi??????????? Sir please reply…
U made a soundful clarification about EV. Does these points also valid for hybrid technology also....i.e the price of the battery and it's life cycle??? Pls define in comment.
Hydrogen fuel cell cars is expected to rule in future,, which is the best replacement of EV cars,, I am thinking to buy petrol car now and replace after 5-6 years with hydrogen car ...
Me too
Hydrogen has the highest calorific value of all the elements. Which means that one accident and your car goes boom.
In a country where LPG failed as an alternative fuel because of still lesser volatile nature, you think hydrogen will succeed? I highly doubt so.
We should buy an ev car after four or five years. By that time they will remove the shortcomings in the cars.
Are these ev cars suitable for average driving of 100kms per day.
Informative and eye opener 👍
Mera daily running 10 to 15 km, Kya me Tiago ev lu ya petrol lu, pls suggest me
Petrol. You will not able to recover increased cost of ev with this much less running per day
Petrol
Same question. I think diesel, CNG, EV is for those who have higher running.
Petrol ki lo...Maje me rahoge
Go for rental service..... Dont buy a car
Sir should we not wait for hydrogen fuel cell based cars??
1. Post warranty replacement
2. Resale value
About resale.. you forgot to mention that after 8 year by saving so much we can have any other next gen ev.
By looking at such videos, I concluded that, bicycle is also polluting environment due to Steel as well as Tyre manufacturing.
Who will sale EV car if it is cheaper that bike, scooter if operating cost is considered!!!
EV is good if one charge give atleast 500 km, full charge take 1 to 2 hrs, less power consumption for recharging battery, for 5 yrs no need to replace battery, battery replacement cost upto 1 Lakh. Finally inbuilt solar panel in car for recharging battery.
E Vs are good for those who travel minimum 100 to 150 kms per day. Whatever the money saved on petrol or diesel has to spend on battery change after 5 years, which will be a huge amount.
Thank you very much sir 🙏
Perfectly said
I want to ask you a question brother.
What is the life time of electric vehicles in India??
AFTER 4 yrs.. YOU ONLY need to replace the battery.. that's all and after 4yrs it will be a much powerful battery at a cheaper cost , which gives more milage
In Indian scenario, EV's are the most polluting vehicles as electricity generation in India is over 60 percent by coal based thermal power plants..add to it T&D losses as electricity is secondary source of energy. You made a good pros and cons discussion. One point which I feel.is missed by everyone is the harmful electromagnetic field created by EV inside the cabin which, May be in longer term will be affecting the nervous system of riders