Why DCT, DSG cars fail in India? | Cartalaap ft
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- Dual clutch transmissions-equipped cars are quite popular in India especially among enthusiasts. And that’s the reason why most brands including Volkswagen, Skoda, Hyundai, Kia, MG and Jeep offer them here. But they have been equally infamous as well, as they tend to fail too. In this podcast, we tell you why they fail and the things that car buyers can follow to avoid any such issues in future.
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What would you pick - DCT or AT (Torque converter)?
The actual reason of DSG failing in India on previous days because of VW and Skoda cars were producing more torque than official claim , that's why the DSG(DQ250) especially of their Diesel vehicles weren't able to handle that extra Torque Rush hence they over-heated and sometimes they fails .
I'm damn sure that today's 1.5 TSI is also producing more power than claimed ones , that's why it's beating new Verna Turbo even with less Power/weight ratio .
Torque converter
TC
I will pick Harriers torque converter ❤
Tata's DCA?
VW ki sena as you guys say are just car automobile lovers like you both gagan and vikas. They are not irrational and neither stupid as you highlight them to be. They love their cars as much as any other car Enthusiast does. If you observe them with open mind, they do acknowledge if other cars are better performer than their own brands as well.
Coming to the drag race, Slavia vs Verna '23 which was the elephant in the room. The drag in your channel showed verna faster than Slavia which is totally cool considering 10 more bhps. But also, those so called tagged "VW sena" by you, also did a drag between virtus and verna and results were different slightly where Virtus stays ahead for the most part and Verna very gently surpasses between 120-140 and then virtus again overtakes verna beyond 140 kmph.
Conclusion?
Both the cars are almost equal when it comes to Performance. A lot of it depends on the driver, launch styles in the drag race, tyres, fuel type and other car specific factors.
In real life, a regular common man won't even feel much difference between the two because drag race koi nahi karta real life conditions and lifestyle mein.
I respect you both as automobile journalists but it is VERY SAD, to see people fighting and tagging each other with certain names like "VW ki sena" and what not.
Please stop doing that. VW does make great cars, no doubts. Niggles have been existent, yes, mostly in the VW 2.0 initial manufactured cars which VW should have checked before rolling out the cars and that has been a pain in the rear for a lot of people, BUT, these have also been RECTIFIED now.
A company which starts listening, if not sooner but later, is better than a company which does not take any action at all. I think VW is trying to be a better brand today than it was.
Support these brands which are trying to bring superior driving quality and experience. And if they are lacking and being faulty in some aspects (like any other car brand), give them feedback and help them give us even better experiences.
But, STOP THESE TAGGING OF NAMES LIKE "VW KI SENA". VW does make great cars and Infact superior in a lot of ways than Koreans. That's a truth.
FACT: Before you tag me as another "VW Fanboy". I had owned a suzuki, 2 Hyundais back to back in my family. Amazing cars I must say. I shifted to VW in 2018 with 2 VWs in my fleet and my experience has been better in every way of ownership and driving than the Hyundais and Suzukis.
I am not biased towards any brand, but, judging on the basis of factual experience, Germans have an edge. Although I totally agree, localisation has led to cost cuttings in some areas which aren't that bad either.
YOU BOTH ARE GOOD JOURNALISTS. PLEASE DON'T TARNISH YOUR IMAGE. STOP SHAMING, TAGGING OR BEING BAISED AND BEING TOO CRITICAL ABOUT ONE BRAND IN PARTICULAR.
Bring back the harmony! Everyone out there is a car enthusiast, esp, your target audience. If people like Hyundais, it is for their strengths, if people like VW's, it is for their strengths.
Hope to see these fights and shaming and tagging end. Rivalry is exciting and good. But, tagging people who are mere car enthusiasts like you, it's NOT DONE!
Exactly I thought Vikas is a good genuine, unbiased reviewer but the way he mentioned VW sena and all those hate comments I've just unsubscribed him..... Paise ke chakkar main misguide karte hain aur faltu main defame karte hain acche brand ko. Unko Hyundai ki brake issues, DCT issues, paint issues, double standards nhi dekhte na hi woh kehte hain par VW se jara si chuk hoon ussi ko mudda banake logon ke samne dikhate hain
@@mrperfect971 Vikas and Gagan. Both are excellent reviewers. Impeccable presentation and approach towards their videos. But, all these are of no use if you are not professional and biased towards one brand. May be they have had some bitter experience with VW in the past but professionalism should stay and I really expect icn studio and gagan to get back to the stage where if they speak good, speak good about all the brands and their unique strengths. If they need to critisize, don't just stick to VW and it's cases but also highlight other brands which indeed have issues which goes unhighlighted. Shaming one particular brand all the time and ignoring the failures of other brands is just unprofessional and biased.
@@siddharthasamuel7259 the fact is they're showing and telling the information which was applicable back when TDIs were available..... At that time there were issues with the gearbox because the TDI produced more than 250 nm torque which caused the problem but with the TSI there are nearly zero problem reported with this combination. They're giving out dated information neither they mentioned VAG giving 7 years warranty on it. VAG made us realised the importance of safety which we were totally unaware especially in the budget in which polo was launched. Tata, Mahindra came into the game later with safety but still as of now they can't match the safety given by VAG. VAG showed Indians how safely built cars are. Ofc no company/car are perfect but when it comes to VAG they're near to perfect in driving dynamics, safety and performance which makes a car A CAR and not a gimmick. And this people are defaming them just for money. I don't understand how can they do so ? They've so many people and most importantly people aren't aware about so many basic things about cars that's why they've rely on auto journalist..... And as an auto journalist it's their responsibility and duty to give fair advice to people..... Who will be responsible if a buyer buys korean tin and bhagwan na kare highway pe koi accident hoon .... Who will be responsible for his life??? He himself and the whole family will suffer due to it. PLEASE YOU GUYS STOP SPREADING HATE TOWARDS A GOOD BRAND JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY/ DUE TO UR PERSONAL OPINIONS. AND I'M PROUD TO SAY I'M A VW "FANBOY" OR A MEMBER OF VW "SENA" WHATEVER YOU SAY....... ATLEAST IT'S BETTER THAN LICKING OFF SOME KOREAN TWIN'S ........ Samjhdar ko ishara hi kaafi hain 🙂🙂🙂 no hard feelings ICN studio/ Vikas Yogi/ Gagan Choudhary but as a responsible auto journalist stop misguiding people and giving irrelevant old information.
@@mrperfect971 agree. Even i have a TDI 1.5, but manual and one of the gem of the engines to own that no other brand in this segment has been able to provide in diesels. Ford's diesel was the closest rival in its time. My second car is a vento 1.0 TSI, some self claimed car expert cum reviewers say it's laggy and underpowered, I along with a lot of owners of this engine find it most fun, rev happy and scalable engine VW ever made after 2.0 TDIs. I had owned Hyundais too, their NA engines are really good refined but their power degrades over a period of time which is what I noticed after 10 years of owning an i10 2010 model, but VW's engine even after 5 years of ownership still feels like new and ready to punch!
My service and ownership experience has been impeccable and amazing. No complaints till date.
Call me vw fanboy yes forever
The more koreans and other brands launches useless features for their customers to have a feel of a expensive car in affordable car in india the more i love vw cars especially my polo gt tsi dsg 2015 just pure driving pleasure, posh looks no shitty features..
Pro tips for people having planning to buy dsg cars
Bumper to bumper use shift manually
Always put the gear on neutral traffic stops
Parking on a stiff patch first full press leg brake than handbrake than shift to park
Never launch control slightly pull the car than pull heavily
If you kinda launch control
Avoid floods dont spray water underneath
These are the top tips
Thanks bro 🙏
"Pure driving pleasure" with all of 105 horses ? Lmao. Warm hatchbacks drivers are the worst
Enough of polo nonsense with 100 or bit more bhp dese days infact few years back as well many many companies made n r making much better cars and repair n maintenance is negligible with better driving dynamics n car in driving mode than workshop mode n bank account paying mutual funds not workshops 😂
germans were pioneers in India at a time in automobile industries but homegrown Giants of Insdia surely have the products today to give these Germans a run for their money. So yeah VW owners do act like fanboys.
Also those tips needed to handle a 'Gearbox' is what makes it unreliable..
Hi. Can you pls advise on the below
1. How to drive and how not to drive a dct, considering that there is auto idle stop and auto hold function the car (Seltos FL)?
2. When you say the dct gearbox gets heated in bumper to bumper traffic - what would be the duration of that threshold typically?
The earlier DSG DQ200 failures were due to short circuits in the Mechatronics due to using synthetic gear oil. They have since switched to mineral oil and failures have also reduced significantly. Premature clutch failure is mostly due to frequent clutch engagement in start-stop traffic. Like mentioned in the video, switch to Neutral during stops + switch to manual mode (hold onto 1st gear) in creeping traffic. My Vento TDI DSG started showing lethargic gear shifting with only about 35K on the odo (90% city traffic). I got the gearbox oil and Mechatronics fluid changed (genuine VW fluids only) at an independent garage and voila, the shifts have become smooth all over again and D3-D2 jerking is almost gone as well. Don’t believe in the “sealed-for-life” transmission oil BS.
how much did you pay for the oil change? and what oils were used? I have a DSG TDI too.
My Vento crossed 1lac+ km , I asked service centre when to change transmission oil? they replied it's filled for lifetime 😅 . Which grade and quantity required for oil change ?
Simple baat hai, DCT is DCT. Best performance with lower reliability. If someone can’t afford to get it replaced out of warranty by paying 1-1.5L, better buy AMT/CVT/TC or even manual cars. But don’t expect that kind of performance. Performance and the pleasure of driving always comes at a cost.
Hi Gagan/Yogi, I have Slavia DSG. Would it be helpful if I drive it always on sports mode as it changes the gear less frequently. Also if I need to wait for 5-10 min and wand my ac to be running should I put it in P mode with handbrake pulled. Please reply !!
Thank you Gagan & Vikas, it’s an important topic which you guys cover in Cartalaap, I follow the same practice of putting my CVT automatic (Honda City) in N mode while stopped for more than 1 minute at a red light. I understand the importance of overheating issue in gear box.
Disclaimer - by vw sena , they mean the group of people who blindly follow vw and argue with anyone who says anything bad about vw without understanding the opinion of other people
That's why Vw sena and Vw lovers/followers are different
VW Sena are proud of their bricked up gearboxes and obnoxious SA
The actual reason of DSG failing in India on previous days because of VW and Skoda cars were producing more torque than official claim , that's why the DSG(DQ250) especially of their Diesel vehicles weren't able to handle that extra Torque Rush hence they over-heated and sometimes they fails .
I'm damn sure that today's 1.5 TSI is also producing more power than claimed ones , that's why it's beating new Verna Turbo even with less Power/weight ratio .
Spot on! That's knowledge
i second that
Sahi hai 👍
W comment
Bro vw claimed power figures are on wheels so definitely it makes more than 150bhp on crank whereas hyundai claims power figures based on crank that’s why they always show less power on dyno test but here the reason for dsg failure is more torque than 250nm at initial rpms but in petrol engines they made sure to that torque won’t be more than 250nm and that why they have given initial lag in new dsg so basically I don’t think we have to worry about dsg failures in 2.0 cars
what is your take on tata altroz DCT in city B2 B traffic with wet cluth ?? Please revert as i have booked XZA + DCT
if BMW M cars can have 8 Speed Torque Converter automatics, then I don't think its necessary to only have DCTs in Performance oriented cars.
With DSG I too faced similar problem which I managed with changing my driving pattern. The main issue which I faced is with lower gears, where they get confused between 1st and 2nd. Here I adopted to go for manual mode. Also I always preferred to go for neutral when on stops and signals. DSG is a fun to drive just we need to adjust to them.
I think even if you are in the M mode, the 2nd gear would already be in ready ( connected but not engaged yet). Atleast that’s what I understood from watching how DCTs work. But yeah it definitely helps you to save from unnecessary upshift-downshifts :)
The problem is more of sudden downshift from 2nd to 1st while driving slow on bumpy roads.. manual mode also doesn’t allow u to up shift unless u hit 2000 rpm mark. I drive virtus gt
Vikas can you make a video on effetive driving or i can say a behavioral change required to drive automatics? It can be any automatic say a torque convertor or dsg or a cvt
With the DQ200 the problem was being faced due to TDI generating more than 250 nm of torque...... As of now VW has provided max torque of 250 nm and have made necessary changes in it making it less prone to such failures. Since 3 years there are almost 0 issues faced regarding the DSG+TSI combination. Although I do agree the DSG/DCT/DCA (Tata) all these are not much suitable for high traffic areas (Mumbai, Banglore, Delhi) so if anyone is getting it there either get a manual or get a warranty against it..... Btw at 14:47 when u said bura lag jayega it's true bcoz VW is the pioneer of DSG and DCT is being made from reverse engineering 🙂🙂🙂 Ye sab apko pata hain na ??? Its like kisi Chinese company ne iPhone ke specs copy kar liye aur saste main phone launch kiya 😂😂😂
Tata DCA is wet cluth
Abhi lena shi rhega Bhai
I am confused between
1.0 tc & 1.5 dsg
50% city
50% Highway use
Monthly 1000 km
@@silveradoceramics6644 if you don't have problem with manual then go for it.... It's the best and now you have also got manual in Virtus as well (in case Slavia doesn't excite you). Although if you're not comfortable with manual then the question arises is what's your driving style ... If you like to drive enthusiastically hands down to 1.5 DSG but 1.0 TC is also a great option if you are not an enthusiast. Although still 1.0 can be driven hard and you will enjoy it too (not as much as 1.5 OFC) but it will give less efficiency than 1.5 TSI...... And I would suggest if u opt for 1.5 TSI DSG make sure to get the extended warranty.
@@mrperfect971 also we have another confusion
Harrier auto xza plus 23 on road
Kushaq 1.5 dsg monte Carlo 20.85 on road
Which one is best ?
Dct = dsg = pdk
Meri Baleno ka AMT bhi heat within 5 minutes ho gay tha when i was on a steep incline. Should I get it checked?
Skoda Kodiaq v DSG me aa rahahe. Uss ka result keisa hei???
I had such a terrible experience with Ford Ecosport PT AT 2015 model, its clutch system failed 2 times in 5 years of warranty, had to sell off the car.
What about Tata altroz dca .? How good are they ..with bs6 phase 2 engine..
Gagan and Yogi bhaiya, what would you recommend Carens DCT or imt turbo vs Alcazar turbo with Manual? In terms of built, family car and reliable transmission system?
Carens 1.5 DCT (Petrol)
Sir, would you suggest Tata Altroz DCA, If maintenance is a concern?
btw guys......i have been driving a DSG box (Q3) for 9 years, zero problem and very very smooth rides and very fast changes. I have had a brilliant stint !!
I have a jeep compass auto which has DDCT (Dry DCT). Every time I come to a stop in traffic i put it in neutral. My car has never shown heating symbol in city. It happened once in Sissu when I was stuck in a traffic jam on incline. It took half an hour to get to normal.
Are Hyundai's CVT (IVT) as reliable as Honda's and Toyota's? Does IVT of Hyundai helps control the Rubber band effect in any significant rate as compared to other brands CVT transmission?
Of course not.
Japanese cars are the most reliable.
Reliability = Honda and Toyota
I am planning to purchase tiguan so after watch your video should i buy or not it will cause problem because of DSG i am confused between tucson and tiguan please help me
DCT is reverse engineered engine of the legendary DSG .
You guys should get Munish from Sunderdeep singh and get his explanation about it. And know what is the real science
The problem which auto companies do not want to admit is that the materials to construct proper DCT doesn't exist yet. You need a steel which has very low thermal expansion coefficient, very high shear modulus, very high shear strength, very high surface hardness. Plus in order to make the predictive shift work well, you need very good ambient sensing (radar+camera+IR) plus very intelligent algorithm optimised for the user as well as traffic condition.
These are contradictory requirements.
How about CTV.?? Do they have any heating issue aswell .??
hi ICN Studio, very informative video. Pls make a dedicated video (small one) on CVT. Multiple companies are releasing CVT variants. I own new i20 IVT which is CVT. and i am getting mileage in city of 10. Is low mileage synonymous with the CVT transmission ?
sir pls suggest if Kiger 2023 cvt turbo worth buy
Hello Sir, can you tell, is TATA's DCA any different then VW's DSG cause I was considering Altros DCA and TATA is claiming its DCA better for INDIAN conditions.
Tata dca is wet type which is good in theory
I own a verna 1.0 turbo DCT 2020.
It's been a havoc for me having this car in my garage.. Every now and then I have to visit service center. Heating issue is very frequent. What to do?
Excellent video team. Would you recommend buying a used octavia MK3 with the DSG issues you highlighted?
Bhai itna sirf batado ki aap logo ne aaj tak VW group ki gadi salo tak rakhi hai?
I have seen VW customer who are not switching to any other brand. They’re switching to BMW/Audi.
So, don’t comment just like that . .
Feels like we dodged a small bullet by going for the 2022 Hyundai Tucson 8 AT TC. Would love an technical video/comparison on the working and how to take care of DCT/DSG and Torque Converters. Thanks!
Read the car manual dude to drive a car properly you don’t need half baked youtubers to enlighten you on how to maintain a transmission 😂
@@ALCAPONEOFINDIAYou weren't exactly right there Sir.
Not all you tubers were half-baked. FYI, all that was given in UM doesn't translate well in real life conditions. Not always!
For example, Toyota manual for a certain model prescribes engine oil change at 10k km which ideally should be 6-7k kms in real world conditions. This, I say from 55 years of experience in the automobile world. The company doesn't wish its buyers to see oil change for their engine this frequent.
You may or may not believe this.
DSG/DCT being unreliable is a Fact, more so in India.. whether you like it or not.
Pl don't make such sweeping statements. statements statements
Have you read any user manual of a car havinb DSG transmission?? If no then you are missing the whole point of conversation here.
While driving AT [TC] in traffic is it safe to put in N mode when traffic is not moving
Please Do the detail video of working as you mentioned and how to use them. And thank you for the wonderful video.
does anyone have KIA Sonet DCT ? would you please share your experience 🙏
Really helpful discussion. And interesting too. Could you guys please touch upon IVT gearbox and how it is different from CVT. Thanks again for the podcast.. good job guys.. 🤘
Is DCT hitting issue resolved now? I'm planning to purchase Kia Htx DCT Patrol.
I really really like you guys the way you explain car technology. It’s crisp and short and simple. I’ve heard a lot about DSG & DCT durability but also a fan of this gear box too (dost ki chalaiyi hai khud ki nahi hai, main toh i20 manual chalata hu 😉). I want to buy Verna DCT. Can the heating issue be controlled if it is driven in a manual mode specially in a bumper to bumper traffic??
AMT, DCT, DSG, TC OR CVT which is more reliable then considering for how many kms it a car can run before transmission opens op and then cost?
TC
What about amt that is given in Baleno is it reliable?
Verna ka kounsa transmission lena chahye?
Bravo guys, superb review, thanks for vlogs, please share some tips regarding the same I have used Hyundai venue DCT, i am trying myself maintaining when idle in neutral.
The only reason why i wont prefer a VW DSG dq200 gearbox is because I live in the Himalayas. The roads and weather here is unforgiving. dq200 fails miserably here in the hills
Guys I have used Vento TSI 1.2L with 7 speed DSG. Total running of vehicle is 1.48 Lakh kms. Twice the Mechatronics, clutch and flywheel. First time at 90 K kms which was under warranty. ( saved 2 L due to extended warranty) . Now again at 1.48 L all these failed and I got them changed by paying ₹2.23 L . It’s best engine & gear box but very very costly to maintain post extended warranty. You need to plan a budget to own it. This is the reality.
What Gagan said regarding the slowness of engagement in the DCTs is exactly what Hyundai and Kia did via the software update. At the same time, actuator ya something was also replaced for the owners whose cars got stucked in ODD/EVEN gears. My honest review, the feels of the early days DCT days got changed due to this update. The updated DCTs felt more like a refined AT. :(
We own MG Hector DCT Sharp with 34,550/- Kms not even single time transmission has break down or overheated I love cars very very much I genuinely care about them being old school I made sure that for 1st 10,000/- (1st major service oil change) we never pushed car hard always use to accelerate gently in city as well as on highway conditions didn’t cross speed of 90 kms/hr touch wood till now no problem with the engine as well as transmission.
What about TATA's DCA(DCT) gearbox? Developed for Indian conditions.. are they reliable?
It's sourced from a Chinese company. It might be wet clutch, but overall it's a very poor quality gearbox.
@@ayush885lol they have developed indigenously, nobody faced any problem
@@rajendertkr Amit khare from ask car guru was saying it's sourced from a Chinese company.
Please confirm.
what you gonna do with fast gear box if you are going to drive slow
What about Tata's new DCA? How is it? Its a wet dual clutch
bhaiya ye batao,n ki agar second hand polo lene jate hai, to kaise check kare ke uss car me ye issue aaya tha ya aa sakta hai ya nahi
Koi nahi bata sakta. Prefer Polo TSI 1.0 post 2020 edition. It comes with Torque Converter gearbox which is bulletproof in reliability.
Hii..
I really like you reviews and regular watch you ...
Ek Suggestion chahiye tha ..
Fronx delta + amt with 1.5 lt engine.
MG ASTOR base model
Or
Vw taiggun base model
Daily usage ke liye kaunc best rahegi.
Apke according kispe Jana chhaiye..
Budget is around 11 -12
And running+maintanence cost please include.
Or.please suggest any other car in this range
.
What about Honda's automatic transmission? Is it any good ?
Great podcast! Loved it! I have two cars with DSG- Polo GT TSI and the Octavia 2.0L Petrol (Dec 2022).
One thing I would like to point out- when the car is stopped in D, the computer disengages the clutch and it causes no harm to the transmission. However, I put the transmission in N when stopped. But the research that I have done suggests that there is no harm caused to the transmission when in D and stopped say at a traffic light. One can see that the RPM drops to about 700 when the brake is applied and car is stopped. Also the 'Auto hold function' which applies the brakes when the car is stopped works only in the D mode.
DSG is a fantastic gear box and I think much superior to the DCT of the Koreans.
GT bech do bhai mujhe 🥲
Very interesting discussion...
Thanks for the update...
Can you please tell me what is venue imt version?
SIR PLEASE TELL IS DCT EXPENSIVER TO MAINTAIN AS SERVICE COST ?
Is tata's wet clutch dct gearbox safe or same like other?
Totally safe
In Bangalore, Seltos HTX Manual vs. DCT has around a 6 lakhs price difference. With this discussion, suddenly, it started feeling too high.
I have a question. I bought Kia Sonet Gtx+ with DCT. When I brake, many times I find the speed increases. This typically happens at lower speeds. (My guess is car shifts to lower gear and power increases this results in increase in speed). This increase in speed reduces your confidence. Earlier I was driving i20 Asta manual for almost 15 years. Is this issue faced by other DCT users?
I have the same car. Noticed same thing increase in speed on lower gear like 1 and 2. Even i after releasing throttle. It makes driver little nervous on turns because after releasing throttle instead of decreasing speed it increases. I raised the issue with KIA. The response i got is it has very high torque on 1, 2 and R gear in comparison with other gears thats why it happens. They said it happens with all the DCTs in KIA.
Sir what about CVTs in Indian Market? Is it reliable?
Sir
Which is reliable between
CVT & DSG?
Coz, i am planning a vehicle for long term period
Bro if u living in warm🔥 part or India don't go for Hyundai, VW ,kia DCT.......go for CVT OR torque converter
CVT have its own problem , rubber band effect
@@aryankhandelwal787 its not problem but its nuture of CVT.
Hello Sir... I am from Kashmir where, and being my necessity planning to purchase Hyundai Venue 1.0 Turbo DCT. Shall I go for it. Kindly suggest.
yes , i book KIA sonet GTX Plus 1.0 Turbo DCT [ FYI Hyundai & KIA have the same engine same DNA]
What about TATA DCT, shall I go with it or not
Good analysis on the gearbox selection. Request your advice on selecting sub compact SUV both city use and highway use equal. Sonet 1.0 DCT or Brezza 1.5 AT are the options in plan, thanks
Kia Sonet 1.0 DCT is more powerful and agile than the Brezza. The DCT gearbox works really well. Although the Brezza's engine has less power but it is peppy enough to work on the highways. We would suggest you to test drive both the SUVs and experience the performance first-hand.
i have just booked carens 1.5dct petrol automatic, so now i am confused? pls advice. awaiting responses.
Did you buy , if yes faced any problems?
Is the Creat 1.5 DCT engine reliable?
What is more reliable in bumper2bumper traffic.
AMT/CVT/TC/DCT ?
use metro
@@amitsrivastava3095 😂😂😂
AMT/TC/CVT/DCT - in that order.
CVTs and TCs have proven to be the most reliable for such usages.
What a gr8 video 🙏🏻.
I too own an X Line Seltos and do follow some of the tips mentioned.
- Put in N or P at red light.
- Avoid sudden acceleration/braking
- Parking brake in N then move to P.
- Wait till I can Fully release brake in stop-go. Well this comes with a lot of honking from behind 😅
We need full detail video on all transmission from both of you❤
Grand Vitara AT has which your of automatic transmission? Thanks for this really good podcast! Fantastic
Maruti Suzuki Grand Vitara gets a 6-speed torque converter (TC) automatic gearbox.
Great discussion...i would rather pick cvt or amt than dct...even if less power
But the manual says-
Stopping temporarily (e.g. at a junction)
› Leave the selector lever in the position and secure the vehicle with the brake pedal.
Yes that’s exactly what you should be doing. No need to shift to N.
When the car is stationary and brake pedal is fully pressed both the clutches are disengaged and there should be no heating issue.
While driving slowly if you are riding the brake , that’s when the clutch heats up.
So in stop and go traffic, try to maintain some distance from the front car and in 1st gear let go of the brake completely to move forward and then completely press down the brake when you need to stop, the minimum time u ride the brake in slow speed the cooler your clutches will be.
Yes that's correct as per hyundai they programmed their ecu to go to neutral if you press the breakpedal. Since breakpedal will act as clutch. But once you starts acceleration you need to fully release breaks.
Would like to know whether Kia has any future plans of introducing an automatic IVT transmission in any of their Sonet variants like HTK, HTK+ or HTX or HTX+? like they have in Seltos HTX.
(Am aware that their GTX transmission is available in both Sonet and Seltos)
Please revert at the earliest.
Thanks in advance!!
We do not have any such specific information with us right now.
Buying i20 n line next week now so so so confused should i go with hyundai dct gearbox now ???
Try kushaq 1.0 AT
Maybe this is the reason Tata went with DCA and wet clutch in order to cope with Indian conditions and it does work well. Haven’t heard anyone facing issues with their transmission.
Thank you very much for such a detailed, informative video on DCT gearbox and its practicality on Indian traffic and climatic conditions. Appreciate your dedication, research and most importantly patience. Your videos always helped us understand their terminology. Special thanks to @GaganChoudary
Which give’s better mileage? Dca or Amt?
AMT in most cases
That's great! It's a well-informed and engaging conversation, particularly regarding the benefits of owning DCT without delving into intricate technicalities.
Thank you, Mr Yogi & Mr. Gagan for such an informative podcast. You have very nicely covered the DSG/DCT problems on Volkswagan, Hyundai & other brands. But lately Tata Motors have also developed their own DCT. Have any owners of these vehicles faced similar issues? Has it come to your notice?
Tata did not develop their own dct, they purchased one from a foreign brand
Good podcast. TC like ZF/9tronic are the best transmissions in my opinion.
What about Tata's DCA (wet clutch)? It is going to come with updated NEXON also apart from Altroz. Has Tata resolved the issue of DCT/DSG/DCA?
Only dry clutches face issues..wet clutches won't face any problem
@@tarunnair6954 but there is reliability issue with Tata's DCA as per reports.
I have a Vento DSG TDI. I always put the transmission in P mode when I encounter a traffic signal. more than 80k done. Car is working fine. I live in a city with moderate to very little traffic. And we do have long highway trips too. One thing I can say is I love the DSG gearbox. In my next car too I would not go for any other transmission.
Which are the non SUV cars in India that have Torque Converter ?
I have KIA Seltos GTX PLUS TURBO DCT 2022 model and I was frequently facing Transmission heating issue specifically during Bumper to Bumper traffic on inclined roads. However, eversince I started using Sports Mode (Manual Shift ) along with Paddle Shifters in such scenarios, I have NOT experienced the Transmission Heating issue. Therefore I strongly recommend to use Sports-Manual mode approach in such scenarios...!
This is what happens when you skip studying for the entire year and study just a day before exam. Podcast lacked facts, has severe shortcomings, painted an entire tech wrongly.
Kindly don’t mislead who follow your channel for auto gyaan by giving half baked information.
My respect for this channel just took a nose dive.
Sb kuch btao sir working of DCT, CVT, TC
This couple (not in that sense) :D is very engaging to listen to.
I hope more and more podcast are coming along.
If you can then please increase the length of the video to 30mins.
Love the Podcast !
Need separate topic on ECVT currently used in strong hybrid cars like Hyryder etc
Agar Engine start stop activated hoga tab bhi D se N mein dalna jaruri hai?
Nahi bhai, agar engine on nahi hai to clutch plate pe friction nahi ho raha aur koi heating nahi hogi, isliye D gear pe rakh sakte gearbox ko. Basically clutch plate ko continuously use me nahi rakhna hai hamein!
What about tata’s DCA?
I will prefer TC with Diesel engine, Reliable and efficient.
My own experience with creta 1.6 auto dsl, 1.5 lac Kms on oddo and no hiccups whatsoever in delhi ncr region and yearly trips to Hills
Very informative without any jargons.
Altroz DCA par ek video bana dijiye
What about Altroz DCA ? I M CONFUSED
Need more podcasts like this!!
your thoughts on dca by tata motors ?
Due to which manuals are the best!