I watched this video many many times and it doesn't get old at all. This is a great one of a kind car to have. And the fact that it functions so well in bad weather like this is a plus. R.I.P Kia Stinger. No more stingers after the 2022 refresh this year unfortunately.
Thanks for the feedback. While I heard a rumor about the Stinger's demise, it was only based on a Korean car blog site. While I haven't heard anything official about the car being discontinued the low and falling sales numbers certainly fuel speculation. The platform is also shared with the Genesis G70 which seems to be selling a little better so maybe that will help keep it alive for a bit longer. It certainly is a good value compared to a lot of the competition. It would be a shame to see it go.
@@fasternation2564 I agree. I would hate to see this car go and be no more. You don't see many cars like this these days where you'd have to pay so much more money for E everything the kia stinger has to offer in pretty much every category. You'd be surprised that even some rich and wealthy people don't want to actually pay top dollar for a car, and instead go to something optional like this. I always say, just because you have a lot of money, doesn't mean you need to go spend it all. You know what I mean? I'm so in love with 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD Scorpion in all black 🖤. That one right there is a rare gem indeed.
Great video!! Loved the slow mo of the back wheel independently dragging!! We just got dumped on by mother nature here in Arkansas, sleet and freezing rain. I bought my Stinger GT2 AWD in June of last year. Had no idea how well this car stood up to icy conditions until I took it out for a spin! Like you said, the car literally corrects itself, and thwarts mistakes in handling by the driver. And I might or might not have made a couple or 10 donuts and figure 8's in the empty back lot of a local grocery store in Sport mode 💀 Tons of fun!! And again I was pleasantly surprised at the cars ability to regain control when I let up. This car anticipates and performs no doubt!! Impressive!
That was so cool to watch man. As a Stinger owner this game me a lot of confidence in the AWD system. I don't have anywhere nearby I could do these donuts but it was cool seeing you do that.
This reminds me when I use to take out my 2005 Subaru Wrx STI in bad weather in Virginia. STI comes alive in bad weather. I have 2021 Stinger GT awd living in Las Vegas and kind of miss the snow just little bit!
This was a great video I remember as a 17 year old young man my father telling me to take my car to the local college parking lot and see how it breaks in the snow when we had our first snow storm to learn how the car drives in the snow. And with your technical knowledge in this video it truly added great information what a value added video
One of the reasons I own my 2020 AWD Stinger GT is becaue of how excellent the AWD system is. Also for 202 they did "Enhancd Shift Logic" improvements to make the 2020 AWD Stingers faster.I ran a 12.7 in the 1/4---4.2 to 60 with no launch control. So not only is the AWD fanatastic in bad weather--but is just as excellent for public drag night.I drove my Stinger in the remanants of the last tropical storm--24 hours plus of rain and 1 to 2 inches of standing water and I drove my KIA Stinger around at the speed limit in torrential rain and had no problem.I also rent AUDIS on business trips and the Stingers AWD is on par with A6 that I rent.The Stinger actually drives identical to the RS5--at about 95%. So for less then half the price--you get 95% of the performance of an RS5--and a super capable AWD system that is world class for its price,
I agree. This car surprises people with it's performance and is a great value for the money. Something that is fairly rare these days. I have always been a car enthusiast and would have looked down at the products from Korean car makers in the past due to poor build quality and inferior design. I have to say they have made great strides in the past decade and are now consistently putting putting out quality products that are giving the other manufacturers a real run for their money.
Looks like I just sold a Kia. I wonder when the commission check will arrive. Seriously though; glad to help out. Good luck, I don't think you will be disappointed.
18, 2.0 awd, it handles amazing in all weather. With only about a second slower than the GT 0 to 60, in comfort mode with the cruise on, driving respectively at 70 mph on mostly flat highway I've gotten 40 miles to a gallon but, when putting sport mode and mashing on the gas I've also gotten 12.... My average about 29. Not many reviews done with the 4 cylinder but either way it is a great vehicle.
🤣😂😂🤣I bit mean but very funny! Damn I can't believe you recognized me. Well after my trip to outer space I knew I had to live on the edge and went out and bought a Stinger.
Great video! Recently picked up a 2019 GT2 AWD and winter is (thankfully) still in the distance here in southern Ontario, Can. One small thing I might add - I'm sure the 4000lb weight of the Stinger also helps with traction. The only concern I sorta have is how low the car is and how it'll handle in deeper snow. Your comment about the camera person complaining about the low pay and poor working conditions...sounds like my wife, lol. Glad you pointed out no matter how much acceleration the Stinger has, it doesn't help with the braking (like any vehicle) - wish more people would learn that lesson. Worse comes to worse...Stinger can stay in the garage on really bad days and we use the wife's AWD Sorento. Cheers.
The Stinger traction control and power will never be in doubt for winter. But, ground clearance is minimal and it would be worth considering using proper winter tires.
You are right about the ground clearance. It's about 6-7 inches so it's not exceptionally low but it's certainly not set up for off-roading. I actually mention using snow tires at the end of the video. I am a strong proponent of fitting them for any real winter weather driving.
Front lip and side skirts are closer to 7 inches so regular parking curbs are not an issue. True minimum ground clearance is closer to 5 - 6 inches but that is fully under the car at a couple low points and doesn't affect interaction with normal parking curbs.
I’m not sure anyone would consider the Forte to be a great winter weather car. That said, you can probably still make it work depending on where in Wyoming you’ll be living and driving, as long as you get a dedicated set of snow tires. Wyoming has fairly varied terrain and snow fall depending on where you are in the state. The mountains to the north and west get quite a bit of snow but the southeast is flatter and dryer. From a winter capability standpoint, the Forte has an open front differential so it basically has one wheel drive. It does have brake-based traction control which can help, but it's certainly not ideal. Under certain circumstances you may even want to turn it off in order allow some wheel spin. Trying to get unstuck from a snow bank or trying to carry momentum up a steeper hill in the snow, as an example. The Forte comes in a couple of different specs which may make some difference as well. The 147 HP car will likely be better at putting power down in adverse conditions vs. the 200 HP version. The lower spec car comes with narrow tires which will also help with traction and steering in snow. As long as you don't have to drive through the mountains and you get a dedicated set of snow tires, you should be OK during most circumstances. I would also recommend getting a set of tire cables/chains in case of emergency. Also keep in mind that Wyoming can be a lot more desolate than on the east coast or west coasts. I don't know where you are coming from, but you should be a bit more prepared for mother nature out there, as help is rarely right around the corner. We have an Accord V6 that is terrible in the snow with all seasons but it is actually able to get around fairly well in the snow once it's shod with top quality snow tires. I would recommend something like a Michelin Ice-X or Bridgestone Blizzak both of which I have good experiences with. Good luck in Wyoming and safe driving.
@@fasternation2564 that's helps so much, in just gonna be in Cheyenne for the base there, so I hope it's gonna be ok since it is the southern part of Wyoming.
Which AWD option is this? Electronically-Controlled Transfer Case -- or -- Electronically-Controlled Transfer Case and Dynamic Torque Vectoring Control?
The Stingers AWD system has an electronically controlled transfer case between front and rear axles. The system primarily drives the rear wheels but can transfer up to 50% of the power forward via the electro-mechanical transfer case and it can vary the transfer of power as needed as the rear wheels loose traction. The benefit of this arrangement is the tendency for the car to handle more neutrally rather than pushing like a front wheel drive car. On the rear axle, all of the AWD cars come with what Kia calls Dynamic Torque Vectoring (DTV), not to be confused with their Limited Slip Differential (LSD), which is only available on the rear-wheel-drive models. The DTV system has an open differential in the rear but uses the rear brakes to arrest a slipping wheel and transfer power to the other side has more traction. This provides a facsimile of an LSD, with most of the benefits and at a much lower cost. Also, with an AWD car the LSD isn't really needed since the front wheels are able to assist with getting power down. Stinger rear wheel drive models have an LSD option. The LSD has what can be called active torque vectoring, where the system directly controls power from side to side and can overdrive the outside wheel to maximize handling and traction characteristics. Kia does not offer the AWD with the LSD but again it really isn't a necessity when you have AWD.
With a good set of snow tires it's certainly as capable as any car would be. The concern I would have up in Anchorage is ground clearance. While most of the car has a clearance of 6-7 inches or so there are a few low spots near the rear end which get closer to about 5.5 inches. I would think it would be fine most of the time but if I lived in Anchorage I would probably consider an SUV just for the extra ground clearance in those really big storms and to deal with the rougher roads. The other potential concern is that the intercooler is located low on the front of the car. It can become clogged and packed in with snow which could potentially be a problem if the car is being driven hard for a long period of time. That said, unless you need to travel during the larger storms or need to travel off road, or on undermaintained roads, you would probably be just fine for the vast majority of time.
If it's the all-wheel drive model it should have the same features. If rear wheel drive it still has traction and stability control but obviously not power to all 4 wheels. I believe some of the rear-wheel-drive models have limited slip differentials in the back which are better at providing traction to the rear wheels than just a brake-based system.
The K5 is a front wheel drive based car. The engine has a transverse layout, (perpendicular to the axles) and it's has a transaxle, in that the transmission is attached to the engine and it also acts as the differential. All of the weight of the engine and transaxle is directly over the front wheels. The amount of power and torque that is transferred to the rear is not as great as the Stinger and it will spin the front wheels rather than the rears when reaching the limit of traction. Not that this arrangement isn't good for driving in snow, especially in getting moving from a stop, however the general tail out driving dynamic of a rear wheel drive based car is not going to be there.
Full disclosure; I haven’t driven a car with SH-AWD, but I can weigh in. Acura’s SH-AWD system is certainly more technically advanced since it can actively transfer torque from side to side as needed and can overdrive the outside wheel to help rotate the car. The Stinger instead drags a brake on the spinning wheel to balance power side to side. While not as capable as an active torque vectoring, these brake-based ESC systems can be effective and are lighter, simpler and cheaper to produce. The real answer however, isn’t that simple. It really depends on what you are looking for out of the vehicle. SH-AWD is trying to overcome some inherent design characteristics that the Stinger doesn’t have to. Vehicles with SH-AWD typically have in-line 4 or v6 engines with transaxles which are mounted longitudinally, over the front axles. This arrangement has a tendency to make the vehicle front heavy. It also limits the total power that can be transferred to the rear axle to 45%. SH-AWD can direct up to 90% of that 45% to either rear wheel as needed and allowing the car overdrive the outside wheel. This negates some of the inherent understeer associated with front drive biased cars but it’s always working against the natural tendency to understeer. The Stinger has a longitudinally mounted v6 and transmission giving the car a better fore/after weight balance. In Sport mode it has an 80% rear power bias, which can increase to 90% as needed. This arrangement gives a car an inherent tendency to oversteer and can be felt when traction control is disabled. Deciding which AWD system is better really depends on what vehicle characteristics are more important to you. If getting unstuck from a snow bank is top priority, the SH-AWD is likely the best system. This system will also probably provide better gas mileage as it can decouple the rear axle, allowing front drive only when in steady state operation. Most Acura vehicles also have more advanced double wishbone suspensions which help them maintain composure over bumpy surfaces versus the front strut setup in the Stinger. However, because SH-AWD only transfers power to the rear when needed and because of the transverse engine layout, it is always fighting it’s way upstream when it comes to physics. For general driving dynamics, the rear biased system with brake-based ESC of the Stinger is probably better. The vehicle is also considerably cheaper than most vehicles with SH-AWD. Something like the Genesis G70, which is based on the same platform as the Stinger but adds double wishbone suspension and a mechanical LSD provides most of the best of both worlds but that car is also considerably more expensive than the Stinger.
@@fasternation2564 Thanks for getting back to me. Am about to trade in my Acura TL Sh-awd for a Stinger that's why I asked how it handles in snow. Since your Stinger handles well in the snow, am getting one in May. Thanks so much 🙏
While comfort mode provides the most traction starting out with a 40/60 front to rear power split, the car still has a tendency to understeer a little bit when turning in slippery conditions. For me, sport mode, which provides a 20/80 front to rear power split, is better for general driving as the car will rotate more naturally when turning. I might also consider turning off traction control so that I could further rotate the car with a bit of throttle control. I would probably leave stability control engaged unless I was specifically trying to be a bit of a hooligan. However, if I got stuck or was trying to get up a really steep hill in extremely slippery conditions, I would probably flip back to comfort mode just for that particular obstacle. The car allows you to change modes on the fly with a simple twist of a knob.
It's a funky non-intuitive process that should really be explained by the dealer but isn't. This generally results in accidentally scratching the paint on the inside of the truck lid. The procedure is listed in the manual and is quoted below: "Move the service wiper to the Service position by turning on and then turning off your ignition, then move the wiper switch to the MIST position within 20 seconds and hold the switch more than 2 seconds until the wiper blade is in the fully up position."
Finally someone that reviewed its snow performance with all season tires. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Does the car come standard with all-season tires?
@@24hourcar they all wheel drive may in some areas. My GT AWD came with Michelin Primacy all seasons.
@@mcivernivens7553 so, the manufacturer doesn’t put the tires on?!
@@24hourcar those are the tires my car with from the manufacturer. I bought the car brand new.
Thank You so much! One can finally watch how Stinger's awd system works, glad You've made this video.
You're welcome!
This is awesome
Looking forward to driving thru Nebraska winters in my '22 gt1
Thx mate
I'm excited to try my 2019 GT1 AWD in the snow for this first time.
I watched this video many many times and it doesn't get old at all. This is a great one of a kind car to have. And the fact that it functions so well in bad weather like this is a plus. R.I.P Kia Stinger. No more stingers after the 2022 refresh this year unfortunately.
Thanks for the feedback. While I heard a rumor about the Stinger's demise, it was only based on a Korean car blog site. While I haven't heard anything official about the car being discontinued the low and falling sales numbers certainly fuel speculation. The platform is also shared with the Genesis G70 which seems to be selling a little better so maybe that will help keep it alive for a bit longer. It certainly is a good value compared to a lot of the competition. It would be a shame to see it go.
@@fasternation2564 I agree. I would hate to see this car go and be no more. You don't see many cars like this these days where you'd have to pay so much more money for E everything the kia stinger has to offer in pretty much every category. You'd be surprised that even some rich and wealthy people don't want to actually pay top dollar for a car, and instead go to something optional like this. I always say, just because you have a lot of money, doesn't mean you need to go spend it all. You know what I mean? I'm so in love with 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD Scorpion in all black 🖤. That one right there is a rare gem indeed.
2020 3.3 tt panthera metal ♥️ my stingergt2
Bravo! Thank you so much for the “is what it is, raw and to the point review!” So many people on here think they work for top gear.
This helps me justify purchasing a Stinger GT in Western New York winters
Very informative. I just got my 21 GT AWD and I hate winter but this makes me wish it snows one more time :)
Do you have the regular line or the GT1/GT2? I heard the AWD are different between the lines. Does yours handle well?
Awesome video I'm about to pick up a 22 3.3 awd in a few days and in the Midwest we get some good snow so I look forward to fun winter driving.
Best Winter Stinger Video Ever !!!
Can't wait to drive my gt1awd in the 1st Heavy Chicago Snowstorm of the year ! Michelin Pilot Sports as4 Tires... Excellent Video
Great video!! Loved the slow mo of the back wheel independently dragging!! We just got dumped on by mother nature here in Arkansas, sleet and freezing rain. I bought my Stinger GT2 AWD in June of last year. Had no idea how well this car stood up to icy conditions until I took it out for a spin! Like you said, the car literally corrects itself, and thwarts mistakes in handling by the driver. And I might or might not have made a couple or 10 donuts and figure 8's in the empty back lot of a local grocery store in Sport mode 💀 Tons of fun!! And again I was pleasantly surprised at the cars ability to regain control when I let up. This car anticipates and performs no doubt!! Impressive!
That was so cool to watch man. As a Stinger owner this game me a lot of confidence in the AWD system. I don't have anywhere nearby I could do these donuts but it was cool seeing you do that.
This reminds me when I use to take out my 2005 Subaru Wrx STI in bad weather in Virginia. STI comes alive in bad weather. I have 2021 Stinger GT awd living in Las Vegas and kind of miss the snow just little bit!
Those STIs are fun little cars. My cousin has one with a few mods. It's really quick and great car for the mountain roads in the Rockies.
This was a great video I remember as a 17 year old young man my father telling me to take my car to the local college parking lot and see how it breaks in the snow when we had our first snow storm to learn how the car drives in the snow. And with your technical knowledge in this video it truly added great information what a value added video
Thanks for the feedback. Glad you enjoyed it! Yes a little winter weather driving practice, in a safe place, is always a good idea for a new driver.
One of the reasons I own my 2020 AWD Stinger GT is becaue of how excellent the AWD system is. Also for 202 they did "Enhancd Shift Logic" improvements to make the 2020 AWD Stingers faster.I ran a 12.7 in the 1/4---4.2 to 60 with no launch control. So not only is the AWD fanatastic in bad weather--but is just as excellent for public drag night.I drove my Stinger in the remanants of the last tropical storm--24 hours plus of rain and 1 to 2 inches of standing water and I drove my KIA Stinger around at the speed limit in torrential rain and had no problem.I also rent AUDIS on business trips and the Stingers AWD is on par with A6 that I rent.The Stinger actually drives identical to the RS5--at about 95%. So for less then half the price--you get 95% of the performance of an RS5--and a super capable AWD system that is world class for its price,
I agree. This car surprises people with it's performance and is a great value for the money. Something that is fairly rare these days. I have always been a car enthusiast and would have looked down at the products from Korean car makers in the past due to poor build quality and inferior design. I have to say they have made great strides in the past decade and are now consistently putting putting out quality products that are giving the other manufacturers a real run for their money.
2022 gt2 with 1800 miles on it can’t wait for the winter to hit .
As someone who is currently shopping around for a Stinger in Minnesota, thank you! This is very useful information and it seals the deal for me!
Looks like I just sold a Kia. I wonder when the commission check will arrive. Seriously though; glad to help out. Good luck, I don't think you will be disappointed.
Works better with really winter tires. Nokian hakapletta R5
Love the commentary :-). Badass car.
Finally, the answers I’ve been seeking.👏
18, 2.0 awd, it handles amazing in all weather. With only about a second slower than the GT 0 to 60, in comfort mode with the cruise on, driving respectively at 70 mph on mostly flat highway I've gotten 40 miles to a gallon but, when putting sport mode and mashing on the gas I've also gotten 12....
My average about 29. Not many reviews done with the 4 cylinder but either way it is a great vehicle.
I didn't know Shatner had bought a Stinger!
🤣😂😂🤣I bit mean but very funny! Damn I can't believe you recognized me. Well after my trip to outer space I knew I had to live on the edge and went out and bought a Stinger.
Great video! Recently picked up a 2019 GT2 AWD and winter is (thankfully) still in the distance here in southern Ontario, Can. One small thing I might add - I'm sure the 4000lb weight of the Stinger also helps with traction. The only concern I sorta have is how low the car is and how it'll handle in deeper snow. Your comment about the camera person complaining about the low pay and poor working conditions...sounds like my wife, lol. Glad you pointed out no matter how much acceleration the Stinger has, it doesn't help with the braking (like any vehicle) - wish more people would learn that lesson. Worse comes to worse...Stinger can stay in the garage on really bad days and we use the wife's AWD Sorento. Cheers.
Thanks for the feedback! Happy motoring.
Where in southern Ontario are you ? I have a genesis g70 and from around the Newmarket/ Bradford area!
@@Pratagraph Niagara region.
2015 sorrento sx 168,000 miles and starts up no problem 😊 3.3 six....
That front sensor plate getting caked up with slush is the only downside in the winter...maybe the rear camera getting dirty too. Great car to have
The wheels gather a bit of snow as well if it's deep and you're being a hooligan. Put a good set of snow tires on this thing and it's a snow mobile.
Yes! YES! *sticks face in snow and inhales deeply* YESSSSSSS!
Great video super informative thanks! Wasn’t sure how’d it perform with all seasons but after seeing this I’m not worried about not having snows!
Great video! Thanks for your work!
The Stinger traction control and power will never be in doubt for winter. But, ground clearance is minimal and it would be worth considering using proper winter tires.
You are right about the ground clearance. It's about 6-7 inches so it's not exceptionally low but it's certainly not set up for off-roading. I actually mention using snow tires at the end of the video. I am a strong proponent of fitting them for any real winter weather driving.
@@fasternation2564 6-7 inches on the front lip or on the side skirts?
Front lip and side skirts are closer to 7 inches so regular parking curbs are not an issue. True minimum ground clearance is closer to 5 - 6 inches but that is fully under the car at a couple low points and doesn't affect interaction with normal parking curbs.
My biggest concern is damage to the front bumper/sensors more than the driving.
Stop teasing Tedo! That's one bad ass car! 😁
I have a kia forte 2021 and moving to Wyoming. I just got it so I can't replace it with a car that has AWD. Do you think I'll do ok with the Forte?
I’m not sure anyone would consider the Forte to be a great winter weather car. That said, you can probably still make it work depending on where in Wyoming you’ll be living and driving, as long as you get a dedicated set of snow tires. Wyoming has fairly varied terrain and snow fall depending on where you are in the state. The mountains to the north and west get quite a bit of snow but the southeast is flatter and dryer.
From a winter capability standpoint, the Forte has an open front differential so it basically has one wheel drive. It does have brake-based traction control which can help, but it's certainly not ideal. Under certain circumstances you may even want to turn it off in order allow some wheel spin. Trying to get unstuck from a snow bank or trying to carry momentum up a steeper hill in the snow, as an example.
The Forte comes in a couple of different specs which may make some difference as well. The 147 HP car will likely be better at putting power down in adverse conditions vs. the 200 HP version. The lower spec car comes with narrow tires which will also help with traction and steering in snow.
As long as you don't have to drive through the mountains and you get a dedicated set of snow tires, you should be OK during most circumstances. I would also recommend getting a set of tire cables/chains in case of emergency. Also keep in mind that Wyoming can be a lot more desolate than on the east coast or west coasts. I don't know where you are coming from, but you should be a bit more prepared for mother nature out there, as help is rarely right around the corner.
We have an Accord V6 that is terrible in the snow with all seasons but it is actually able to get around fairly well in the snow once it's shod with top quality snow tires. I would recommend something like a Michelin Ice-X or Bridgestone Blizzak both of which I have good experiences with.
Good luck in Wyoming and safe driving.
@@fasternation2564 that's helps so much, in just gonna be in Cheyenne for the base there, so I hope it's gonna be ok since it is the southern part of Wyoming.
Which AWD option is this? Electronically-Controlled Transfer Case -- or -- Electronically-Controlled Transfer Case and Dynamic Torque Vectoring Control?
The Stingers AWD system has an electronically controlled transfer case between front and rear axles. The system primarily drives the rear wheels but can transfer up to 50% of the power forward via the electro-mechanical transfer case and it can vary the transfer of power as needed as the rear wheels loose traction. The benefit of this arrangement is the tendency for the car to handle more neutrally rather than pushing like a front wheel drive car. On the rear axle, all of the AWD cars come with what Kia calls Dynamic Torque Vectoring (DTV), not to be confused with their Limited Slip Differential (LSD), which is only available on the rear-wheel-drive models. The DTV system has an open differential in the rear but uses the rear brakes to arrest a slipping wheel and transfer power to the other side has more traction. This provides a facsimile of an LSD, with most of the benefits and at a much lower cost. Also, with an AWD car the LSD isn't really needed since the front wheels are able to assist with getting power down. Stinger rear wheel drive models have an LSD option. The LSD has what can be called active torque vectoring, where the system directly controls power from side to side and can overdrive the outside wheel to maximize handling and traction characteristics. Kia does not offer the AWD with the LSD but again it really isn't a necessity when you have AWD.
@@fasternation2564 Thank you!!
Would you recommend it for anchorage??
With a good set of snow tires it's certainly as capable as any car would be. The concern I would have up in Anchorage is ground clearance. While most of the car has a clearance of 6-7 inches or so there are a few low spots near the rear end which get closer to about 5.5 inches. I would think it would be fine most of the time but if I lived in Anchorage I would probably consider an SUV just for the extra ground clearance in those really big storms and to deal with the rougher roads. The other potential concern is that the intercooler is located low on the front of the car. It can become clogged and packed in with snow which could potentially be a problem if the car is being driven hard for a long period of time. That said, unless you need to travel during the larger storms or need to travel off road, or on undermaintained roads, you would probably be just fine for the vast majority of time.
I have a 2022 GT Line Stinger. Does it aline with the features in your video?
If it's the all-wheel drive model it should have the same features. If rear wheel drive it still has traction and stability control but obviously not power to all 4 wheels. I believe some of the rear-wheel-drive models have limited slip differentials in the back which are better at providing traction to the rear wheels than just a brake-based system.
If it handles like that with all seasons.. AT tires will launch that beeeeyoooootch lol
Do you know if the K5 gt-line AWD has the same AWD system? Not sure why Kia would use a different one, but it’s hard to find info on it.
The K5 is a front wheel drive based car. The engine has a transverse layout, (perpendicular to the axles) and it's has a transaxle, in that the transmission is attached to the engine and it also acts as the differential. All of the weight of the engine and transaxle is directly over the front wheels. The amount of power and torque that is transferred to the rear is not as great as the Stinger and it will spin the front wheels rather than the rears when reaching the limit of traction. Not that this arrangement isn't good for driving in snow, especially in getting moving from a stop, however the general tail out driving dynamic of a rear wheel drive based car is not going to be there.
Can you now do one with a C4S and non snow tires?
Is it as good as the Acura's Sh-awd?
Full disclosure; I haven’t driven a car with SH-AWD, but I can weigh in. Acura’s SH-AWD system is certainly more technically advanced since it can actively transfer torque from side to side as needed and can overdrive the outside wheel to help rotate the car. The Stinger instead drags a brake on the spinning wheel to balance power side to side. While not as capable as an active torque vectoring, these brake-based ESC systems can be effective and are lighter, simpler and cheaper to produce.
The real answer however, isn’t that simple. It really depends on what you are looking for out of the vehicle. SH-AWD is trying to overcome some inherent design characteristics that the Stinger doesn’t have to. Vehicles with SH-AWD typically have in-line 4 or v6 engines with transaxles which are mounted longitudinally, over the front axles. This arrangement has a tendency to make the vehicle front heavy. It also limits the total power that can be transferred to the rear axle to 45%. SH-AWD can direct up to 90% of that 45% to either rear wheel as needed and allowing the car overdrive the outside wheel. This negates some of the inherent understeer associated with front drive biased cars but it’s always working against the natural tendency to understeer.
The Stinger has a longitudinally mounted v6 and transmission giving the car a better fore/after weight balance. In Sport mode it has an 80% rear power bias, which can increase to 90% as needed. This arrangement gives a car an inherent tendency to oversteer and can be felt when traction control is disabled.
Deciding which AWD system is better really depends on what vehicle characteristics are more important to you. If getting unstuck from a snow bank is top priority, the SH-AWD is likely the best system. This system will also probably provide better gas mileage as it can decouple the rear axle, allowing front drive only when in steady state operation. Most Acura vehicles also have more advanced double wishbone suspensions which help them maintain composure over bumpy surfaces versus the front strut setup in the Stinger. However, because SH-AWD only transfers power to the rear when needed and because of the transverse engine layout, it is always fighting it’s way upstream when it comes to physics. For general driving dynamics, the rear biased system with brake-based ESC of the Stinger is probably better. The vehicle is also considerably cheaper than most vehicles with SH-AWD. Something like the Genesis G70, which is based on the same platform as the Stinger but adds double wishbone suspension and a mechanical LSD provides most of the best of both worlds but that car is also considerably more expensive than the Stinger.
@@fasternation2564 Thanks for getting back to me. Am about to trade in my Acura TL Sh-awd for a Stinger that's why I asked how it handles in snow.
Since your Stinger handles well in the snow, am getting one in May.
Thanks so much 🙏
cool, no pun intended
Hey which driving mode do you think is most suitable for snow and icy road driving?
While comfort mode provides the most traction starting out with a 40/60 front to rear power split, the car still has a tendency to understeer a little bit when turning in slippery conditions. For me, sport mode, which provides a 20/80 front to rear power split, is better for general driving as the car will rotate more naturally when turning. I might also consider turning off traction control so that I could further rotate the car with a bit of throttle control. I would probably leave stability control engaged unless I was specifically trying to be a bit of a hooligan. However, if I got stuck or was trying to get up a really steep hill in extremely slippery conditions, I would probably flip back to comfort mode just for that particular obstacle. The car allows you to change modes on the fly with a simple twist of a knob.
How did you get your wipers to stay straight up like that
It's a funky non-intuitive process that should really be explained by the dealer but isn't. This generally results in accidentally scratching the paint on the inside of the truck lid. The procedure is listed in the manual and is quoted below:
"Move the service wiper to the Service position by turning on and then turning off your ignition, then move the wiper switch to the MIST position within 20 seconds and hold the switch more than 2 seconds until the wiper blade is in the fully up position."
What is the tire? Thanks!
Oh I saw that in the video, great video, thanks!
Poor camera man freezing his nuts off :) great work. Just one thing the music was a little loud over the voice.
Thanks for the feedback.
Attraction control off
Pur car is so dam heavy lol
real shame about handbrakes. Everyone knows that women love handbrake turns, it's kind of the law..