This car is a unicorn, that’s why I traded in my 2018 for a 2022 model. Styling, hatch back, power, rear drive architecture, sized a little bigger than other luxury compact sport sedans, and warranty. It’s the perfect daily driver for me.
@@EOtekk Exactly. People hear Hyundai isn’t selling Kia Stingers and actually think this car is some sort of “hidden gem” 💎. That would be the farthest thing from the truth. It’s plenty of them on the road, just not nearly as many as the company thought it would be. Anyone with a TH-cam account are well aware of the Hyundai/Kia lineups as they are amongst the few whose products are advertised so heavily as if they’re the only things worth your money outside of normalities from Germany. Like you’ve said, these are everywhere. Almost as common as a Dodge Charger. The car just ain’t nearly as special as reviewers try to make it out to be and it’s disappointing in person since the quality is still KIA but the price has left the brand behind. Nice car, but it’s a rental that nobody wants to own with or without a warranty. It’s a worse performing BMW with a Kia badge and South Korean quality, reliability, and resale value. Kias and Hyundais are loaded with cheap tech that’s doomed to fail, they’re nice rental cars to me but nothing I’d bring home to deal with.
Stinger owner here! There is an actual launch control mode, you just have to hold the TCS until stability control also turns off and it'll prompt you on the screen
Own a 2020 Stinger GT with downpipes, intercooler, JB4 tune on map 5, CAI, BOV’s, & muffler/cat delete. The launch control isn’t actual launch control. You have to do a brake snip to get it to fully be in launch control since it won’t build enough boost in stock form.
@@lamont23able1 The "brake snip" disconnects a signal line going to the ECU that tells it when the brakes are applied. Allows you to rev higher and build more boost in launch mode, with much better acceleration. You can run a switch to turn it on/off as well
Love how your videos are very straight to the point, but most importantly you give us real footage from a daily driver's perspective without the salesman like gimmicks.
“Let’s throw it into sport… it’s properly quick!” I really enjoyed that part. It’s sick that the Sport mode also adjust the driver ergonomics. I’ve never had the pleasure of driving a car that has that feature, but it does seem pretty dope.
A really nice example of KIA doing bits, it is a shame about them not selling well - tough market at that price point. If it had a BMW badge etc..., people would be losing their minds.
Exactly. Biggest selling point of sport sedans is the fancy brand name for most people. Why would you really need this over a wrx if you wanted a fun practical sedan? Is it worth like 20k more? To me it’s an easy no
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 new wrx is ugly. stinger has more room for me being 6 foot tall, broad shoulders. also interior of wrx looks ugly as well. quality not as good as stinger. theres a reason why it cost less than a stinger. and theres a reason the stinger cost less than a comparable audi or bmw
@@allenstevenson5986 I’m 6ft 216 into bodybuilding and drive a gti just fine lol. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s worth it. There’s a reason it’s not selling obviously.
Great review by the way...most people spend way too much time talking outside and inside the car and that test drive was awesome. Greatest part of owning these cars.
I recently purchased a 2023 Kia Stinger G2 after finding out this car was being discontinued. I had been seeing this sexy car on the road for several years. When I had a hard time locating one, I ended up going over to check out the Audi A5. After telling the saleman what I was comparing it to, he was like "It's a nice car but it's still a Kia." I politely told him "Sir, I don't care. I like what I like." Luckily, I found the car I wanted in the color I wanted and now I own a Kia Stinger. Sleep on Kia if you want. I think this car is going to become a coveted model.
I absolutely love this car. Picked up a sweet deal on a 2023 Stinger GT2 from a Cadillac/Buick/Dodge/Jeep/Ram/GMC dealership where I had bought my 2017 Ford Fusion from. They were badgering me day and night to try and buy back my Fusion for about 3k less than i paid for it 3 years ago. The only thing they had in their lot that I was interested in trading in for was the 2023 Stinger. I really loved my Fusion SE though, and I really didn't think it was worth it while they were asking 50k for the 2023 Stinger. I asked if I could go look at it, maybe go test drive it but turns out the manager of the place had driven it home that night since he was considering buying it 😂 I turned them down and expected to just drive the Fusion into the ground until I donated it towards a tax writeoff. Two weeks later, I'm napping on my couch after working an all nighter when some chick from the dealership calls me up saying she knows I had expressed interest in the Stinger, that the price had dropped and she was wondering if I wanted to go test drive it. Since I had worked all night before I didn't have work that day so I was like " Heck yeah why not." I drove over there and they just handed me the key and said "see you when you get back." Connected my phone up to the car seamlessly and started bumping my shit, thinking about where I wanted to take it. Found one of my favorite freshly paved county roads with fields on either side for about a half mile. Pre-cruised it to make sure everything was kosher before turning around. I stepped on the gas and I STG not 6 seconds later I was doing a buck thirty without realizing it (wasn't even in sport mode either). I'd never gone that fast in a car ever up to that point. I'm pretty sure I subconsciously decided I was going to buy her then. After some hemming and hawwing back at the salesman's desk I decided to just keep renting instead of getting a house in the current market and sealed the deal; 36k for a brand new sports sedan with 4k miles after trading in my 2017 Fusion SE. The previous owner had even installed weathertech floormats that just came with the dang thing for no extra cost after he had sold it to the dealership for a Cadillac instead (he bought it new from the KIA dealership not knowing it was a sports car 😆) The Stinger GT2 is an absolute joy to drive and I can't recommend it enough. It sounds good, feels good, and is, like the video said, just a awesome all around option that fuckin' ZOOMS when you put your foot down. Nothing but constant complements on how nice it rides and how comfortable it is as a passenger. 👌🏻
I have had 2 in less than 3 years. 2019 gts lost with less than 10k miles due to an inattentive driver turning into me going through an intersection. Now a 2023 gt2. Amazing car and very hard to find right now.
@@bkhavityoway23 mine feels just fine to me! I have a slight rattle in the trunk lid now but I actually tried to force it shut with a big box in there… after that one side seemed to rattle a little so this is probably my fault. Otherwise no rattling or isssues at all. I think it depends what you’re coming from too, I came from a scion and a mustang eco boost so either we’re super high build quality. If you’re coming from bmw or Lexus or something you may question more. But overall I really love it. Open air intake and borla cat back exhaust it sounds absolutely phenomenal.
@@alh06 Lmfao! Go spec out a similarly optioned C43 AMG, M440i, or S5 Sportback Compared to the GT2 Stinger, all of those cars hitting pretty much 69k+ with similar options. Arguably the only thing those cars have above the the Stinger is ever so slightly better materials, full digital dash displays, ever so slightly better noise isolation and ever so slightly faster by like 0.2 seconds to 60 mph which in my opinion does not come close to a near 20k price tag difference. Then if you start adding the muscle cars into the picture, all of them are at least 2k more expensive, sure they are slightly faster to 60 and perform better on the track (Camaro and Mustang respectfully) but all of those cars lack the options the Stinger does, don't drive as nice as the Stinger does as a daily, and have less tech, features, and a much worse interiors compared to the stinger.
Here in Australia, I have the top of the range GT which comes with everything standard. The equivalent for a German vehicle is almost double the price. In my humble opinion, when everything is considered, price, performance., standard equipment, driving experience and warrant, there is nothing close to it on the road today. Love my GT. Cheers from Oz
The only issue is low standard of paint quality , fit and finish and other issues down the line as there are plastic components in the fuel filter for instance where other cars use alloys. There are reasons why they could make it on the cheap. Unfortunately for Aussie buyers it's still not a cheap car though as everything is overpriced here. If it was $10,000 less it would be a bargain but it's a bit overpriced considering the lack of interior quality and a pretty ordinary stereo for the price of the car here. I'll stick to Lexus because of the quality and much better front end suspension set up personally
I had a 2021 Kia Stinger GT1 AWD in Ceramic Silver, which I later replaced with a 2021 Audi S5 Sportback in Turbo Blue. Had absolutely no problems with the Kia. Haven't heard a single rattle in it. The only thing that was weird to me (not that it mattered) was that the start/stop button would glow brighter during the day then other buttons (heated seats, etc), but at night it would switch vice versa, where the start stop button was dimmer than the rest of the buttons😄 The range was also very small. My best was 320 miles (vs. 420-430 miles in the Audi). Beside that, excellent car. Unlike many competitors, it was instant on throttle response, no delay/lag off the line. Some things that I noticed with the Audi was that it does not have a floor mounted pedal, which I did miss. Also, the Audi had a much more noticeable delay if the gas pedal was pressed down quickly from a start. Launch control gave the S5 incredible off-the line performance. The Stinger did not have a "from boost" launch control. Also, you could not feel any speed in the Audi, and triple digits felt like a 40 mph cruise, whereas on the Stinger you felt you were going fast. The sound isolation was also much better in the Audi. The comfortable sport suede massaged seats in the Audi were many more times comfortable than Kia's seats. Despite the $10,000 difference on the price at the time, I would still say if your paying that much, the Audi will offer a more refined and luxurious experience. It's a much better highway cruiser. For its price, the Kia was a great performer. Can't really go wrong with any car in this class.
Totally agree, though I have no experience with the Audi. That's the thing though, you're right; you really can't go wrong with any car in this class lol
14:16 you had to keep holding the traction button for 3 seconds to completely disable it. That way, when you brake and floor the pedal it'll say "launch control ready" in the cluster screen.
Anyone complaining about the price needs to properly research. A similarly optioned s5 sportback or m340i will push north of $70k. The GT2’s $55k is loaded so I suggest anyone interested dig into every feature you get for that. Of course the Audi and BMW will be a little tighter with superior build and handling. But if you want good power, all options in an attractive looking car, the $55k is still a bargain imo if you don’t want to pay an extra $15k for features.
@@IScoreUnderPressure4 completely disagree. You'll find most stinger owners cross shopped the two and there's tons of former red sport owners in the stinger owner forums. The Q50 is pretty much worse in every category.
@@TB-yj4xg well the q50 is faster, looks better, and doesn't rattle after 30,000 miles. The Kia does have more interior features though. Nissan is always 5 years behind on that.
@@IScoreUnderPressure4 the Q50 RS actually isn't faster especially from a dig. from a roll it's a little more even. The gear ratios and transmission allow the stinger to be ever so slightly quicker stock v stock. And once again the rattles are really exaggerated. My IS350 and C43 rattled way way worse.
I had a 2023 Kia Forte GT. thing was snazzy. Sadly, totald it. Will forever trust that car with my life. Recovering with ONLY a broken shoulder and no front end as well as two wheels missings along wiht the engine on the side of the highway and driver side door lmao. Struggled getting out of that thing to let paramedics know I was fine.
I just sold my 2020 Stinger for a profit and bought a MAzda CX-30 turbo.Stinger is a nice car but sits too low and like many in this class the low profile rims make it a great canyon carver and street car--but a track will tear it up.Also the paint is weak.I went to public drag and I had ceramic coated the car and the chunks of rubber made small permamnet black marks along the door sills--but I looked and other cars also had it like M3s.From now on I think I will get performance SUV/CUV to better avoid damage and nicks on low cars.I also had 3 flats in the year I owned it.No rattles and everything worked great.It also ran a 12.7 at the local track--I had an exhasut on it.It is a great 40k ca--but they are marked up to over 50k now--get one when the price setlles--but remember it sits very low for a sedan.
Everyone always looks at purchase price but they don’t look at total cost of ownership. When shopping it’s probably a better idea to look at how much you’re going to be paying after about 5 years of ownership. I’ve had old used cars cost me just as much in repairs and ownership than brand new cars with higher price tags. Brands change over time. And if you ask me I’d rather own a Kia than anything the American brands currently offer.
@@bmwmsport11 I have driven just about every car it competes with and more and I agree with his statement specifically for the GT2. For 15k-20k more on average with similar options the German cars have a ever so slightly better build quality and slightly quieter, and a slightly more "wow" gauge clusters but those are all they have going for it. They are not enough to justify a 20k price tag difference if you ask me for the similar driving experience.
Interior rattles is one thing i cannot live with. Thats one of the main problems with kias, I had a optima turbo and it was the same thing. The rattling sunroof drove me crazy.
I bought a used 2018 GT2 with 22,000 miles in 2020 for 40k. It is a very nice car. I wouldn't buy a new one though at 50k plus. It is plenty fast for everyday driving. I put a JB4 tuner on and it really woke it up.
I don't believe that the rattle can be actually attributed to the car build, but rather the result of the hatchback trunk cover. If you remove it the rattle is gone. You can also use some velcro to better hold it in place.
So there's something I've noticed with the transmission after driving the Stinger a few times. If you have your foot slammed all the way down on the gas pedal, the upshifting manually is quick. However, if you are not flooring it, upshifting is slow. I know the car tries to keep the shifts smooth but it's somewhat annoying to have the timing of the shifts be different every time, unless I'm just flooring it. It's not just either really fast or really slow either, it varies in between that as well. It feels like there is a strange disconnect since I just can't anticipate the shifts. Other than that, it's a good car with good value.
I had one for a year--the car is meant to accelerate a little briskly--btw the DCT trannies are also bad--any of these 8 to 10 speed--dct all hunt gears when you tool around.Sold the stinger and have a MAzda CX-30 turbo and the old 6 speed auto in the mazda is way better for daily driving--2nd gear is also tall covering about 10 mph to like 60 and third can get you to 80 or so--so you get up to speed very quick with little shifts.But on the HWY my stinger at 80 to 90 was getting the same MPG as my CX-30--so it pays for efficiency on the hwy since a 3.3TT getting the same MPG as a 2.5 T>Hopefully next cycle they put AWD in a KONA N and the prices settle--but until then I will enjoy the mazda.Main reason I sold the stinger was it went up in value and second reason was it sat too low and I could never risk going to the mountains in it
@@khronin idk, good DCT don't really hunt gears or do weird shit unless they aren't made well. Just my two cents. But for comfort, traditional torque converters will definitely do what you want. DCT mainly feel jerky or clunky to some, but as far as hunting gears, if it's tuned shitty, yeah. But bmws, Mercedes, and even my SST in my Evo X never gave me that impression. Can put them in normal or sport and cruise around and they almost read your mind
We bought a 2020 GT2 kind of on a whim. We tend to go through cars about every two years and the Stinger came up on the lifecycle back in February. We can't find anything out there that we would rather have and there sure as heck isn't anything out there that is as good an all-rounder in my opinion. The biggest problem I have is that the wife has a bit of a lead foot and loves to take everyone and everything out at the stop lights. I've owned a Mercedes and Jaguars and they were great cars, but I was over them and ready to move on...I feel more connected to this car for some reason....maybe it's because there just aren't that many out there and I appreciate what Kia is trying to do. A couple other things to consider. Service is a fraction of what a European car costs. I don't get a loaner and the dealership doesn't have an amazing lounge, but I don't see the value in paying hundreds of extra dollars for a Kuerig coffee and a granola bar. The warranty is best in class. The trunk is ridiculous; the crap that we have crammed into this thing is alarming. The backseat room is better than most in this class as well. But the one thing that no one talks about here is insurance. It's like they don't realize that this thing is a mid 4 sec 0-60 car and treat it like a hatchback for pricing. I don't think that there is anything in this level of performance that can be insured as cheaply. I don't think that it does any single thing "best in class", but I can't find anything that ticks as many boxes as well and I think that if there is we're probably looking at twice the cost between initial cost, service, and insurance and even then I don't think that you're looking at more than just a modest gain. I think that this is going to be our last ICE vehicle unless I win the lottery at which point I'll have McLarens and Porsches and all kinds of other stupid cars.
Drove it 2017 when it just came out and had 370 HP It was so fun to drive, in my opinion its the perfect GT for the price. But as you said: The pricetag in combination with its brand name KIA hold back some of the interested buyers who went to Audi S4 or other competitors.
There is LSD For the RWD. Torque Vectoring for AWD which is what I have, GT1 AWD (2019). Glad you loved the car man! I love driving mine. Also for the excitement factor, there’s alot of tuning around for these now and you can get them up to 500hp easily which wakes it up even more.
Saw a girl driving her stinger earlier and it looked so cool I had to find a pov video😂 hers was debadged and had an E emblem, on the tires too , exterior grey, was so so beautiful I couldn’t believe it was a kia
Got the same model and year and I freaking love it. The rattles aren’t so annoying to me but I do hate one thing… it EATS FUEL! But take it on the HWY and it’s a breeze and everyone is looking at you giving you the thumbs up LOL. I love it! Get it!
Excellent, professional grade review! Interesting observation on the rattle issue. I've watched several reviews on this car and I believe this is the first someone commented on rattles.
if it has a rattle, take it back to the dealer and they fix the issue, don't need to live with the problem. Couple of washers, seal lubricants etc and they are good to go. A lot of them have no issues at all. I have been in 5 and one had a rattle in the sun roof that was fixed a week later. Quality control isn't as good as some of the germans but for us here in Australia the stinger is half the price of the S5 or 340i xdrive. 2mins fixing a rattle is a lot easier than finding an extra $60,000 for a car
The rattle is mainly to do with Plastics that are used in almost every new interior now. Back in the 90s 2000s stuff was made from wood or heavy duty plastic. Now it's just a thin sheet of plastic held on by clips and glue.
I have a 2019 gt2, fully loaded, no rattle issues, and thanks to the current market it's only worth 6k less than what I purchased it for! Also, dare I say it's more reliable then European competitors.
How do you know that it is reliable after only 2 years? Also, do not lump all European cars together, since reliability can range from tragic failures like the E90 M5 to indestrucitble legends like any VW with the 1.9TDI. And by the by, every unreliable shitbox can last ages, if you are willing to pay for regular preventive maintenance.
Great review as usual. Love that exhaust sound. Gorgeously designed car inside and out. On long drives you could sleep in it at rest stops with rear seats down. With a more aggressive financing options more people might be willing to sign on the dotted line.
If it's like my 2019, you have to hold down the traction control button for a couple seconds to really turn it off and enable the launch control. There is a second beep when you've held it down long enough, and a second orange light indicator displays on the dash, instead of just the one that displays in this video when you turn it off with a single short press. This is also not just for launch control, but to really disable the traction control and assisted braking and stuff. If I don't have it fully disabled, with both orange lights on, I get some really annoying braking at times when I don't want it.
It’s really nice… but, I really think I’m going with an M340i over this. Or, if the back seats are negligible, the new M240i. Ik, I sound like a BMW shill right now, but those two cars are really attractive at their suggested prices.
I was looking to get a kia scorpion in grey in jan but haven't heard anything in months soo im bout to pick up my m240i on Wednesday in the peanut butter and jelly combo 🥜🫐
I'm glad that you weren't afraid to mention the interior rattles. Seems like most of the other car reviewers (who act more like salesman) neglect to mention the rattles. One of the big reasons why I sold my 2019 GT2 AWD after a little over a year of ownership. There were other annoyances that made the car not feel like it deserved the premium price tag.
If the kia dealership experience treated you like you bought a $50k car then I'd consider one but when I went in to look at one I was treated like was buying a Kia Rio
@ please go and test drive an m340i. I did that and loved the car right from the beginning. I test drove like 3 Stingers and just couldn't get myself to like it
Sad to hear the interior rattles issue is still not revolved as it is also a major deterrent for me to get one; roads here are horrendous to start with yet our A4 is still rattle free 4 years later. The Stinger GT has always been on my short list as an alternative to a potential future S5.
the g70s are nice..i wanted the launch edition Satin grey color with the red interior...heard they all sold out in a week ( when it came out).im waiting on Scorpion package stinger I order last month..should be here in 3 to 4 month
These things are much more affordable here in Korea, I’ll probably end up getting a used one with low mileage for around 35k. Can’t go wrong at that price
Hey Topher, could you get a S5 sportback to review? I'd love to hear your thoughts, that and the m340i and TLX type s are my favorite performance sedans at the moment.
My 2019 Kia Sorento has the same V6 engine it seems (albeit naturally aspirated) & the same 8 speed auto and that thing can really pedal to the metal. I can't imagine how a turbocharged, aerodynamic low to the ground sedan variant of it can be
I had this car back in June, 2022 Kia Stinger GT2, Snow White pearl with red interior. I bought it however crashed and it got totaled back in November. Only con of car for me was the brakes, but nothing biggie, replaced once by dealer in first 6,000 miles I did indeed drive it very hard, but it doesn’t cost much to switch to aftermarket. Still miss the car and the random looks from people. Lots of people ask hey man sick car what car is that? I replaced this car with a BMW M340. BMW feels faster than the stinger, however the quality on the buttons and such isn’t up to par as the Kia. It’s great though!
In terms of performance, AWD to AWD. This Stinger or the CT5 V? Not just straight line performance, but all metrics. Turn in, corner exit, which drive modes differs the most.
I would go stinger on this one..full option stinger 55k.. fully option ct5 v 69 to 71k which for that price you could get charger hellcat..mid option m550i bmw..fully option s5..few more vehicle too.for what you get in a stinger at that price fully loaded..it would be the way to go
@@samuelreid603 Yeah I'm not the one for the features. About the only features I require is remote start to get it ready for the drive. And a sun roof to let more natural light in. If I'm looking for a feature packed car most likely its going to be for my wife. I'm more visceral, from my understanding the Stinger is slightly quicker in a straight line. But the Cadillac is the one if you want to maintain fun speeds in cornering. I've listened to a few audio clips of both cars and the CT5 V has the one of the better sounding 6 cylinders. Almost every up shift pops. And the launch control sounds amazing. If my budget was higher it would probably be the V BW. But as it stands AWD and the $60k mark is my budget. But the Stinger is a very good proposition. I've thought about getting the Stinger and getting a more sporty suspension setup and a better exhaust system for it. Maybe close the gap between the Stinger and CT5 V in terms of cornering and sounds.
@@99-Zulu im not much in to bmw but i also order the m240i along with my stinger.. th-cam.com/video/xAJBMTja88w/w-d-xo.html but i would say definitely check out the m240i
@@samuelreid603 Bruh, did you really just compare a fully loaded Cadillac CT5-V to a Dodge Charger and a Kia Stinger?? Ha! Do you realize the joke in that? Apparently *not.*
I would say this car is the best car that you can get in this price range beside that people does not like the brand value of "KIA". Drove 2019 Stinger GT for an year and its absolute banger
Yeah the lack of a true digital dash drags down the interior. If they were going to use the one they did then the interior styling should have suited it too like a classic M3 BMW or something. As it is it looks like a mess.
I raced 2 of these so far, In my infinit g37 sedan, I can say honestly, these cars are quick, I’m always behind them about a car length away or 2, but wow they are fast, I did not expect that the first time I raced one, why? Well my g37 almost always beats any v6 car that I usually race here in Florida, I want a stinger now!!
as a previous Kia Stinger owner I will never buy another Kia product, the rattle is definitely annoying but the biggest problem is the uncomfortable suspension, it’s too harsh for a vehicle that drives like a boat and has a massive amount of body roll. my shocks gave out TWICE. another problem is the transmission, the tuning of it doesn’t make sense for a sports car, the shifts aren’t as sharp as other torque converters (ZF8 for example) my transmission blew at 16k miles so I guess thank god for 100k mile warranty. and finally the tuning capability’s are underwhelming, these are hardly fast my Stinger was nearly 500whp but man the amount of money it cost to get there is not worth the cost. My opinion for potential Stinger buyers… just spend the extra $4k on an M340i like I did. $57k M340i XDrive is a much superior platform, it’s essentially an AWD Supra Sedan, that B58 is no joke… and the B58 also sounds a million times better than the Stinger’s 3.3 V6
Sad people care about brand name so much and don’t buy it just because it’s a Kia, if it had Benz or bmw on it they would sell . I love the Kia brand they make really good cars at a good price
As a former 2022 GT2 owner, this car was hard to give up. Also at around $1000 a month in ownership costs, it was also hard to NOT give up. When I lost my job it was the easiest decision ever to sell it after only owning it 3 months. First mods I recommend are oil catch can and a pedal commander; the acceleration really shines once you put in a pedal commander. Went full bolt on with mine and embarrassed a lot of people who scoff at Kia's
You don't need an oil catch can unless you are tracking it all the time. speed doesn't change the quality or smoothness it lacks though. They look great new but then you realise they cheapened out with crap paint quality.
I thought the rattles coming from back that many 2018 owners complained about were fixed?? I also heard a 2019 owner got his rattles resolved by the dealer.
if every manufacturer uses the same buttons and switches from lower models, wouldnt that make it par for the course? no one is going to voluntarily spend money on something if none of the other automakers are..
If they had a manual trans option, I'd consider one. Otherwise I'll keep my 10 year old Honda V6 with a 6 speed manual. Naturally aspirated, and not as fast, but more fun to drive. Regular unleaded too, no premium.
I am interested in possibly buying one of these for travel. Your video was helpful and well done. When you have a moment could you share what gear you used for the camera and mic? I have a car detailer client and this style of video would work well for showing their product and process.
Minor point. The HK sound system ain’t that good. Fine if you’re listening to the radio. Try plugging in your USB stick playing with MP3 files on it. The high frequency sounds are over amplified producing tinny t’s and hissing eases. It will make you wince. Even with the Clarifi and Quantum logic altered to try and compensate it still hurts. I know, get Apple car play but why should I have to?
It is a good car and competes well in the sport sedan category. The rattles can be quieted by applying silicone to the weatherstripping at the doors and hatch. I've had no interior rattling.
It is just poor workmanship in general that causes it because it's made on the cheap . It has cheap suspension and interior parts mainly aside from brakes and engine etc. Even the so called high quality leather doesn't hold up at close scrutiny. Not a bad car just completely overpriced in Oz where the GT should be about 50k drive away new instead of the insane price they ask for.
Does anyone here know what actually happens when you select the more aggressive exhaust note? Is it actually modifying the exhaust system (some kind of bypass), or is it just pumping more artificial exhaust sound into the cabin?
As far as I know 2022 (and possible the 2021) has an electronically controlled valve that opens when you switch to sport mode. There is still piped in audio but you can disable it in any mode.
@@jatexsiron Thanks! Glad some of the growl is real! One of the things I don't like about EV's for driving engagement is lack of a nice exhaust note. Still baffled why Ford didn't offer fake Mustang V-8 sounds in the Mach E.
Going into sport mode opens a valve in the exhaust to allow a real louder exhaust note. However you can also adjust the fake pumped in audio through a setting in the screen. I found the artificial noise to actually sound pretty good, I had no complaints with it since you can turn if off whenever.
It is exited, it is cool overall. But for this price... Did you see Lexus IS500 ? Audi S5 ? BMW M340i ? You can even have Genesis G70 with the same powertrain. Same manufacturer, not a big difference in a price. So what's the point of redesigned stinger?
If I hadn’t gotten the forte, I would’ve love this, even though I know these are priced more than the forte, of course but I would have definitely loved to have shelled out more money just to have the stinger
How much do the rattles bother you? Would it deter you from buying one? I have a 2022 Hyundai Sonata N Line and there are rattles and squeaks coming from the trunk; specifically the torsion rods. There is also a creaking coming from the left trunk hinge when the body flexes. It's my car now and I don't feel like there's any point in taking back to the dealer because I don't know what they could possibly do. It's frustrating but the only thing I can do is trade it in. I love everything else about the car though 😌
Don't let it bother you, I've driven a ton of new cars these past couple days, even a Porsche that had 15k miles and had an annoying rattle somewhere in the dash. It's always a hit or miss with new cars nowadays when it comes to rattles.
@@wheretfisnoah it’s not. it’s slower but i agree it looks little better but again tlx is very common car. i have stinger gt1 and i get lot of looks and compliments
Great review! Thanks! What are some common ways to fix interior rattles? My subarus and mazdas rattled above the glove box and my RS3 door panels rattled from the awesome loud exhaust.
In Germany, you can get a Benz, Audi or BMW for basically the same price. Especially when you are looking at the used market for both. 40k€ for a 2018-2019 model is just way too much for a fancy Kia.
I “ordered” mine in April, dealership has told me month and month again, no updates. Nearly 5months of waiting, I called them Monday and I’m told I won’t get my 2022 gt2 Scorpion because they are not producing them anymore and most likely will get a 2023. Like WTF, I put in the order can’t they honor what I wanted, the specs I wanted? On top of that, they really told me this 5 months in, I’m so sad and heartbroken 😭💔 I really think that is the reason why not many are being sold, I’m literally ready to research for a different option but it’s going to be hard, I’ve been too excited to get this baby😮💨
2022 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD
MSRP: $53,690
MPG: 17 city / 24 highway
Horsepower: 368 hp @ 6,000 rpm
Engine: 3.3 L V6
Curb weight: 4,023 lbs
Tire size: Front: P225/40R19, rear: P255/35R19
Torque: 376 lb-ft @ 1,300 rpm
Hey Topher nice watch where did you get it , I would like to buy one also
Pin?
@@Ray-mf5zl you need one? you can get the one I'm bout to get cus I might be getting the m240i instead of the stinger
@Marko Lar I’ve seen Tellurides and EV6s go for over $60k. 🤗😩
@@Ray-mf5zl Looks like an Omega Speedmaster.
Absolutely no complaints about that interior. Properly functional with clean aesthetics.
too bad they don't make it anymore, tough luck hahahahha
This car is a unicorn, that’s why I traded in my 2018 for a 2022 model. Styling, hatch back, power, rear drive architecture, sized a little bigger than other luxury compact sport sedans, and warranty. It’s the perfect daily driver for me.
You must never heard of the Cadillac CT5-V.
Can you make a video on it?
This is far from a unicorn. There's so many of them on the road.
@@EOtekk Exactly. People hear Hyundai isn’t selling Kia Stingers and actually think this car is some sort of “hidden gem” 💎. That would be the farthest thing from the truth. It’s plenty of them on the road, just not nearly as many as the company thought it would be. Anyone with a TH-cam account are well aware of the Hyundai/Kia lineups as they are amongst the few whose products are advertised so heavily as if they’re the only things worth your money outside of normalities from Germany.
Like you’ve said, these are everywhere. Almost as common as a Dodge Charger. The car just ain’t nearly as special as reviewers try to make it out to be and it’s disappointing in person since the quality is still KIA but the price has left the brand behind.
Nice car, but it’s a rental that nobody wants to own with or without a warranty. It’s a worse performing BMW with a Kia badge and South Korean quality, reliability, and resale value. Kias and Hyundais are loaded with cheap tech that’s doomed to fail, they’re nice rental cars to me but nothing I’d bring home to deal with.
@@mybro727 you sound like a bitter old lady.
Stinger owner here! There is an actual launch control mode, you just have to hold the TCS until stability control also turns off and it'll prompt you on the screen
Own a 2020 Stinger GT with downpipes, intercooler, JB4 tune on map 5, CAI, BOV’s, & muffler/cat delete. The launch control isn’t actual launch control. You have to do a brake snip to get it to fully be in launch control since it won’t build enough boost in stock form.
@@BoostedS650
Will the brake snip allow it to burn out? What is a brake snip?
@@lamont23able1 The "brake snip" disconnects a signal line going to the ECU that tells it when the brakes are applied. Allows you to rev higher and build more boost in launch mode, with much better acceleration. You can run a switch to turn it on/off as well
also gas pedal has to be compressed all the way to get the "launch mode ready" signal. its definitely faster than what OP showed.
@@twizzldatdeal not faster for rwd. Spin like a mofo lol
Love how your videos are very straight to the point, but most importantly you give us real footage from a daily driver's perspective without the salesman like gimmicks.
💯💯💯. There's zero BS in this channel. 👍
“Let’s throw it into sport… it’s properly quick!” I really enjoyed that part. It’s sick that the Sport mode also adjust the driver ergonomics. I’ve never had the pleasure of driving a car that has that feature, but it does seem pretty dope.
yeh real sick😊
A really nice example of KIA doing bits, it is a shame about them not selling well - tough market at that price point. If it had a BMW badge etc..., people would be losing their minds.
Exactly. Biggest selling point of sport sedans is the fancy brand name for most people. Why would you really need this over a wrx if you wanted a fun practical sedan? Is it worth like 20k more? To me it’s an easy no
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 new wrx is ugly. stinger has more room for me being 6 foot tall, broad shoulders. also interior of wrx looks ugly as well. quality not as good as stinger. theres a reason why it cost less than a stinger. and theres a reason the stinger cost less than a comparable audi or bmw
@@allenstevenson5986 I’m 6ft 216 into bodybuilding and drive a gti just fine lol. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s worth it. There’s a reason it’s not selling obviously.
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 6ft tall body builder driving a gti, what an ironic thing to say over the internet lol
@@Drunk0nCustard that’s not how you use the word ironic lol. I’m not a truck guy or a muscle car guy. I love my gti :(
RIP Stinger line-up. 165K Kms and still going strong for me. 0 issues.
tbh i would sell the stinger
Great review by the way...most people spend way too much time talking outside and inside the car and that test drive was awesome. Greatest part of owning these cars.
I recently purchased a 2023 Kia Stinger G2 after finding out this car was being discontinued. I had been seeing this sexy car on the road for several years. When I had a hard time locating one, I ended up going over to check out the Audi A5. After telling the saleman what I was comparing it to, he was like "It's a nice car but it's still a Kia." I politely told him "Sir, I don't care. I like what I like."
Luckily, I found the car I wanted in the color I wanted and now I own a Kia Stinger.
Sleep on Kia if you want. I think this car is going to become a coveted model.
That’s true, even tho I have the 2.5 stinger
I absolutely love this car. Picked up a sweet deal on a 2023 Stinger GT2 from a Cadillac/Buick/Dodge/Jeep/Ram/GMC dealership where I had bought my 2017 Ford Fusion from. They were badgering me day and night to try and buy back my Fusion for about 3k less than i paid for it 3 years ago. The only thing they had in their lot that I was interested in trading in for was the 2023 Stinger. I really loved my Fusion SE though, and I really didn't think it was worth it while they were asking 50k for the 2023 Stinger. I asked if I could go look at it, maybe go test drive it but turns out the manager of the place had driven it home that night since he was considering buying it 😂
I turned them down and expected to just drive the Fusion into the ground until I donated it towards a tax writeoff.
Two weeks later, I'm napping on my couch after working an all nighter when some chick from the dealership calls me up saying she knows I had expressed interest in the Stinger, that the price had dropped and she was wondering if I wanted to go test drive it. Since I had worked all night before I didn't have work that day so I was like " Heck yeah why not."
I drove over there and they just handed me the key and said "see you when you get back."
Connected my phone up to the car seamlessly and started bumping my shit, thinking about where I wanted to take it.
Found one of my favorite freshly paved county roads with fields on either side for about a half mile. Pre-cruised it to make sure everything was kosher before turning around.
I stepped on the gas and I STG not 6 seconds later I was doing a buck thirty without realizing it (wasn't even in sport mode either).
I'd never gone that fast in a car ever up to that point. I'm pretty sure I subconsciously decided I was going to buy her then.
After some hemming and hawwing back at the salesman's desk I decided to just keep renting instead of getting a house in the current market and sealed the deal; 36k for a brand new sports sedan with 4k miles after trading in my 2017 Fusion SE. The previous owner had even installed weathertech floormats that just came with the dang thing for no extra cost after he had sold it to the dealership for a Cadillac instead (he bought it new from the KIA dealership not knowing it was a sports car 😆)
The Stinger GT2 is an absolute joy to drive and I can't recommend it enough.
It sounds good, feels good, and is, like the video said, just a awesome all around option that fuckin' ZOOMS when you put your foot down. Nothing but constant complements on how nice it rides and how comfortable it is as a passenger. 👌🏻
I have had 2 in less than 3 years. 2019 gts lost with less than 10k miles due to an inattentive driver turning into me going through an intersection. Now a 2023 gt2. Amazing car and very hard to find right now.
I’ve swapped lots of cars and this one is finally keeping my interest. I’m absolutely loving owning this car.
does yours feel cheap or at least rattle like he mentions?
Also, can you set your digital dash to display the numerical speed that youre driving at?
@@bkhavityoway23 yes you can !
@@bkhavityoway23 mine feels just fine to me! I have a slight rattle in the trunk lid now but I actually tried to force it shut with a big box in there… after that one side seemed to rattle a little so this is probably my fault.
Otherwise no rattling or isssues at all. I think it depends what you’re coming from too, I came from a scion and a mustang eco boost so either we’re super high build quality. If you’re coming from bmw or Lexus or something you may question more.
But overall I really love it. Open air intake and borla cat back exhaust it sounds absolutely phenomenal.
@@Uncle19should I buy a stinger how does the car hold up over time ! I had a Honda accord 2023 but I want something to hold
Poor pricing is holding them back. The msrp for this should be closer to 45k
Then go for an GT1
It's 20k on average less than the competition lol
In Canada, you can get a fully loaded GT Elite (GT2) for $54k CDN ($43k USD).
@@AnthonyCessor No it’s not.
@@alh06 Lmfao! Go spec out a similarly optioned C43 AMG, M440i, or S5 Sportback Compared to the GT2 Stinger, all of those cars hitting pretty much 69k+ with similar options. Arguably the only thing those cars have above the the Stinger is ever so slightly better materials, full digital dash displays, ever so slightly better noise isolation and ever so slightly faster by like 0.2 seconds to 60 mph which in my opinion does not come close to a near 20k price tag difference. Then if you start adding the muscle cars into the picture, all of them are at least 2k more expensive, sure they are slightly faster to 60 and perform better on the track (Camaro and Mustang respectfully) but all of those cars lack the options the Stinger does, don't drive as nice as the Stinger does as a daily, and have less tech, features, and a much worse interiors compared to the stinger.
Been window shopping these recently and looking for a video to see how it stacks up in 2022, glad you made this!
I bought mine 3 weeks ago and I'm super happy with it
Here in Australia, I have the top of the range GT which comes with everything standard. The equivalent for a German vehicle is almost double the price. In my humble opinion, when everything is considered, price, performance., standard equipment, driving experience and warrant, there is nothing close to it on the road today.
Love my GT.
Cheers from Oz
I have the GT1 model from 2019. I have a smile when I drive it because it is so much fun!
@@williamdalyjr941 Could not agree more William. The thing I hate most about my Stinger is getting out of it and not driving it.
The only issue is low standard of paint quality , fit and finish and other issues down the line as there are plastic components in the fuel filter for instance where other cars use alloys. There are reasons why they could make it on the cheap. Unfortunately for Aussie buyers it's still not a cheap car though as everything is overpriced here. If it was $10,000 less it would be a bargain but it's a bit overpriced considering the lack of interior quality and a pretty ordinary stereo for the price of the car here. I'll stick to Lexus because of the quality and much better front end suspension set up personally
would you say the stingers are super reliable? was thinking of getting one..
@@jkovacs I have not had any issue with mine since I bought it in early 2020. The best car I have ever had
I had a 2021 Kia Stinger GT1 AWD in Ceramic Silver, which I later replaced with a 2021 Audi S5 Sportback in Turbo Blue. Had absolutely no problems with the Kia. Haven't heard a single rattle in it. The only thing that was weird to me (not that it mattered) was that the start/stop button would glow brighter during the day then other buttons (heated seats, etc), but at night it would switch vice versa, where the start stop button was dimmer than the rest of the buttons😄 The range was also very small. My best was 320 miles (vs. 420-430 miles in the Audi). Beside that, excellent car. Unlike many competitors, it was instant on throttle response, no delay/lag off the line. Some things that I noticed with the Audi was that it does not have a floor mounted pedal, which I did miss. Also, the Audi had a much more noticeable delay if the gas pedal was pressed down quickly from a start. Launch control gave the S5 incredible off-the line performance. The Stinger did not have a "from boost" launch control. Also, you could not feel any speed in the Audi, and triple digits felt like a 40 mph cruise, whereas on the Stinger you felt you were going fast. The sound isolation was also much better in the Audi. The comfortable sport suede massaged seats in the Audi were many more times comfortable than Kia's seats. Despite the $10,000 difference on the price at the time, I would still say if your paying that much, the Audi will offer a more refined and luxurious experience. It's a much better highway cruiser. For its price, the Kia was a great performer. Can't really go wrong with any car in this class.
Totally agree, though I have no experience with the Audi. That's the thing though, you're right; you really can't go wrong with any car in this class lol
Lexus is better than both.
Buy a used GS350 AWD like me. I will be driving this same car 10-15 years from now.
@@ahahuehafook4207 Hard pass on the Lexus. It's pretty damn ugly compared to a Stinger and has way less horse power and torque.
Got an S5 Sportback in Navarra Blue and I absolutely love it. Very glad I purchased it over the stinger, which has no rear limited slip dif.
@@ahahuehafook4207 Yeah bro that lexus is horrendous compared to the s5 sportback lol.
14:16 you had to keep holding the traction button for 3 seconds to completely disable it. That way, when you brake and floor the pedal it'll say "launch control ready" in the cluster screen.
Anyone complaining about the price needs to properly research. A similarly optioned s5 sportback or m340i will push north of $70k. The GT2’s $55k is loaded so I suggest anyone interested dig into every feature you get for that. Of course the Audi and BMW will be a little tighter with superior build and handling. But if you want good power, all options in an attractive looking car, the $55k is still a bargain imo if you don’t want to pay an extra $15k for features.
I think a q50 red sport is a better option for the price
@@IScoreUnderPressure4 completely disagree. You'll find most stinger owners cross shopped the two and there's tons of former red sport owners in the stinger owner forums. The Q50 is pretty much worse in every category.
@@TB-yj4xg well the q50 is faster, looks better, and doesn't rattle after 30,000 miles. The Kia does have more interior features though. Nissan is always 5 years behind on that.
@@IScoreUnderPressure4 the Q50 RS actually isn't faster especially from a dig. from a roll it's a little more even. The gear ratios and transmission allow the stinger to be ever so slightly quicker stock v stock. And once again the rattles are really exaggerated. My IS350 and C43 rattled way way worse.
@@TB-yj4xg okay but how is the q50 worse in every category like you said?
Silicone spray on all the seals is a must, especially around the doors in the summer. They make so much noise otherwise.
what kind of silicone spray?
@@robotdeathderby Most any that advertise for lubrication towards seals and rubber. Lots will mention on the can good for seals or joints.
@@lachaderp4021 oh ok, well thank you for replying. i got a stinger in florida so i may give that a whirl
I had a 2023 Kia Forte GT. thing was snazzy. Sadly, totald it. Will forever trust that car with my life. Recovering with ONLY a broken shoulder and no front end as well as two wheels missings along wiht the engine on the side of the highway and driver side door lmao. Struggled getting out of that thing to let paramedics know I was fine.
Without the markup I’d snag one in a heartbeat, but dealers near me have added damn near 10k to the price.
Right?! Really not a good time to buy a brand new car right now.
Greedy bastards
Lmao right my dealer is trying to get $65k... sorry, I rather have an Audi or BMW at that price.
I just sold my 2020 Stinger for a profit and bought a MAzda CX-30 turbo.Stinger is a nice car but sits too low and like many in this class the low profile rims make it a great canyon carver and street car--but a track will tear it up.Also the paint is weak.I went to public drag and I had ceramic coated the car and the chunks of rubber made small permamnet black marks along the door sills--but I looked and other cars also had it like M3s.From now on I think I will get performance SUV/CUV to better avoid damage and nicks on low cars.I also had 3 flats in the year I owned it.No rattles and everything worked great.It also ran a 12.7 at the local track--I had an exhasut on it.It is a great 40k ca--but they are marked up to over 50k now--get one when the price setlles--but remember it sits very low for a sedan.
@@graymatter242 supply and demand baby gotta love capitalism
Everyone always looks at purchase price but they don’t look at total cost of ownership. When shopping it’s probably a better idea to look at how much you’re going to be paying after about 5 years of ownership. I’ve had old used cars cost me just as much in repairs and ownership than brand new cars with higher price tags. Brands change over time. And if you ask me I’d rather own a Kia than anything the American brands currently offer.
My dad has the gt line and I can 100% say that Kia has outdone just everyone else.
Have you owned and driven every car in this class yet?
@@bmwmsport11 big mad
Outdone everyone? Is that why they cant sell them?
@@iMixMaSteR1 its because of the name and reputation. For some stupid reason that invalid narrative still holds for a lot of people. 🙄
@@bmwmsport11 I have driven just about every car it competes with and more and I agree with his statement specifically for the GT2. For 15k-20k more on average with similar options the German cars have a ever so slightly better build quality and slightly quieter, and a slightly more "wow" gauge clusters but those are all they have going for it. They are not enough to justify a 20k price tag difference if you ask me for the similar driving experience.
Interior rattles is one thing i cannot live with. Thats one of the main problems with kias, I had a optima turbo and it was the same thing. The rattling sunroof drove me crazy.
oh wow..I have had mine for 3 years now..haven't had a rattling issue yet..
No car should rattle, all these companies are cheap now
@@bizzybezz No, just Kia and Hyundai does this seem to be a consistent problem.
@@layne4376 i mean you right tho
It doesn't rattle I own one with 32k on it. I traded it for ev6
I bought a used 2018 GT2 with 22,000 miles in 2020 for 40k. It is a very nice car. I wouldn't buy a new one though at 50k plus. It is plenty fast for everyday driving. I put a JB4 tuner on and it really woke it up.
How about the 2.5 stinger?
@TheRealCatofso the 2.5 stinger is quick enough?
@TheRealCatof that’s on official Kia website, but motortrend and other TH-camrs measure the 0-60 is 5.7
@TheRealCatof that’s dope. I wish Kia didn’t lie about the 0-60 on the 2.5
I recently discover your channel with your Forte GT video and I have to say I'm starting to binge your POV videos.
Really enjoying the content :)
I don't believe that the rattle can be actually attributed to the car build, but rather the result of the hatchback trunk cover. If you remove it the rattle is gone. You can also use some velcro to better hold it in place.
So there's something I've noticed with the transmission after driving the Stinger a few times. If you have your foot slammed all the way down on the gas pedal, the upshifting manually is quick. However, if you are not flooring it, upshifting is slow. I know the car tries to keep the shifts smooth but it's somewhat annoying to have the timing of the shifts be different every time, unless I'm just flooring it. It's not just either really fast or really slow either, it varies in between that as well. It feels like there is a strange disconnect since I just can't anticipate the shifts. Other than that, it's a good car with good value.
I had one for a year--the car is meant to accelerate a little briskly--btw the DCT trannies are also bad--any of these 8 to 10 speed--dct all hunt gears when you tool around.Sold the stinger and have a MAzda CX-30 turbo and the old 6 speed auto in the mazda is way better for daily driving--2nd gear is also tall covering about 10 mph to like 60 and third can get you to 80 or so--so you get up to speed very quick with little shifts.But on the HWY my stinger at 80 to 90 was getting the same MPG as my CX-30--so it pays for efficiency on the hwy since a 3.3TT getting the same MPG as a 2.5 T>Hopefully next cycle they put AWD in a KONA N and the prices settle--but until then I will enjoy the mazda.Main reason I sold the stinger was it went up in value and second reason was it sat too low and I could never risk going to the mountains in it
@@khronin idk, good DCT don't really hunt gears or do weird shit unless they aren't made well. Just my two cents. But for comfort, traditional torque converters will definitely do what you want. DCT mainly feel jerky or clunky to some, but as far as hunting gears, if it's tuned shitty, yeah. But bmws, Mercedes, and even my SST in my Evo X never gave me that impression. Can put them in normal or sport and cruise around and they almost read your mind
We bought a 2020 GT2 kind of on a whim. We tend to go through cars about every two years and the Stinger came up on the lifecycle back in February. We can't find anything out there that we would rather have and there sure as heck isn't anything out there that is as good an all-rounder in my opinion. The biggest problem I have is that the wife has a bit of a lead foot and loves to take everyone and everything out at the stop lights. I've owned a Mercedes and Jaguars and they were great cars, but I was over them and ready to move on...I feel more connected to this car for some reason....maybe it's because there just aren't that many out there and I appreciate what Kia is trying to do.
A couple other things to consider. Service is a fraction of what a European car costs. I don't get a loaner and the dealership doesn't have an amazing lounge, but I don't see the value in paying hundreds of extra dollars for a Kuerig coffee and a granola bar. The warranty is best in class. The trunk is ridiculous; the crap that we have crammed into this thing is alarming. The backseat room is better than most in this class as well. But the one thing that no one talks about here is insurance. It's like they don't realize that this thing is a mid 4 sec 0-60 car and treat it like a hatchback for pricing. I don't think that there is anything in this level of performance that can be insured as cheaply.
I don't think that it does any single thing "best in class", but I can't find anything that ticks as many boxes as well and I think that if there is we're probably looking at twice the cost between initial cost, service, and insurance and even then I don't think that you're looking at more than just a modest gain.
I think that this is going to be our last ICE vehicle unless I win the lottery at which point I'll have McLarens and Porsches and all kinds of other stupid cars.
Drove it 2017 when it just came out and had 370 HP
It was so fun to drive, in my opinion its the perfect GT for the price. But as you said: The pricetag in combination with its brand name KIA hold back some of the interested buyers who went to Audi S4 or other competitors.
There is LSD For the RWD. Torque Vectoring for AWD which is what I have, GT1 AWD (2019). Glad you loved the car man! I love driving mine. Also for the excitement factor, there’s alot of tuning around for these now and you can get them up to 500hp easily which wakes it up even more.
What does LSD mean?
@@ibrahimkamran5552 limited slip differential
Saw a girl driving her stinger earlier and it looked so cool I had to find a pov video😂 hers was debadged and had an E emblem, on the tires too , exterior grey, was so so beautiful I couldn’t believe it was a kia
Got the same model and year and I freaking love it. The rattles aren’t so annoying to me but I do hate one thing… it EATS FUEL! But take it on the HWY and it’s a breeze and everyone is looking at you giving you the thumbs up LOL. I love it! Get it!
“Everyone is looking at you giving you the thumbs up”
Calm down it’s a Kia Stinger..
@@AlphosnoMango So what?
I forgot what mine sounded like stock lol 🥲
Excellent, professional grade review! Interesting observation on the rattle issue. I've watched several reviews on this car and I believe this is the first someone commented on rattles.
There *are* known, quick fixes, for both the hatch (washers) and moonroof (taped felt).
if it has a rattle, take it back to the dealer and they fix the issue, don't need to live with the problem. Couple of washers, seal lubricants etc and they are good to go. A lot of them have no issues at all. I have been in 5 and one had a rattle in the sun roof that was fixed a week later. Quality control isn't as good as some of the germans but for us here in Australia the stinger is half the price of the S5 or 340i xdrive. 2mins fixing a rattle is a lot easier than finding an extra $60,000 for a car
You're living the dream TheTopher!!
The rattle is mainly to do with Plastics that are used in almost every new interior now. Back in the 90s 2000s stuff was made from wood or heavy duty plastic. Now it's just a thin sheet of plastic held on by clips and glue.
I have a 2019 gt2, fully loaded, no rattle issues, and thanks to the current market it's only worth 6k less than what I purchased it for! Also, dare I say it's more reliable then European competitors.
How many miles you got on it? I love this car
How do you know that it is reliable after only 2 years?
Also, do not lump all European cars together, since reliability can range from tragic failures like the E90 M5 to indestrucitble legends like any VW with the 1.9TDI. And by the by, every unreliable shitbox can last ages, if you are willing to pay for regular preventive maintenance.
@@djpollo2474 12k
Great review as usual.
Love that exhaust sound.
Gorgeously designed car inside and out.
On long drives you could sleep in it at rest stops with rear seats down.
With a more aggressive financing options more people might be willing to sign on the dotted line.
If it's like my 2019, you have to hold down the traction control button for a couple seconds to really turn it off and enable the launch control. There is a second beep when you've held it down long enough, and a second orange light indicator displays on the dash, instead of just the one that displays in this video when you turn it off with a single short press.
This is also not just for launch control, but to really disable the traction control and assisted braking and stuff. If I don't have it fully disabled, with both orange lights on, I get some really annoying braking at times when I don't want it.
It’s really nice… but, I really think I’m going with an M340i over this. Or, if the back seats are negligible, the new M240i. Ik, I sound like a BMW shill right now, but those two cars are really attractive at their suggested prices.
Agree!!!
I was looking to get a kia scorpion in grey in jan but haven't heard anything in months soo im bout to pick up my m240i on Wednesday in the peanut butter and jelly combo 🥜🫐
@@samuelreid603 fire
@@800usd yeahhhhhhh mann heres mine th-cam.com/users/shorts0o3kgSw0woY?feature=share
I love my Kua Stinger, but you are SO right about the extra interior sounds while driving... I thought it was me maybe ding something wrong.
Would love to see a video on the new Porsche Macan S with the 2.9 L engine.
Just when I thought it has been a while since you did a test drive of the Kia Stinger, low an behold there's a new video of you driving in one!! 👍
I never had one rattle in my stinger
@DBOOTEE shouldn’t have issues like that on a new vehicle 🤡
My stinger rattled like a tin can full of nails
@@user59371 yeah ok
I'm glad that you weren't afraid to mention the interior rattles. Seems like most of the other car reviewers (who act more like salesman) neglect to mention the rattles. One of the big reasons why I sold my 2019 GT2 AWD after a little over a year of ownership. There were other annoyances that made the car not feel like it deserved the premium price tag.
what were the other annoyances?
Also interested in the other annoyances
Annoyances of the other variety are my interest.
Gotta love when no one comments back.
11:04 anyone else got a black screen?
Just bought a 23 gt elite suede package and I love it!
If the kia dealership experience treated you like you bought a $50k car then I'd consider one but when I went in to look at one I was treated like was buying a Kia Rio
smart idea not buying one then
@ please go and test drive an m340i. I did that and loved the car right from the beginning. I test drove like 3 Stingers and just couldn't get myself to like it
Sad to hear the interior rattles issue is still not revolved as it is also a major deterrent for me to get one; roads here are horrendous to start with yet our A4 is still rattle free 4 years later. The Stinger GT has always been on my short list as an alternative to a potential future S5.
Could probably fix it yourself
the g70s are nice..i wanted the launch edition Satin grey color with the red interior...heard they all sold out in a week ( when it came out).im waiting on Scorpion package stinger I order last month..should be here in 3 to 4 month
@@MrCarGuy You shouldn't need to fix rattles on a new $ 55k car.
Get the S5 dude.
@@nica711 my A4 doesn’t burn any oil on a 5k mile OCI
These things are much more affordable here in Korea, I’ll probably end up getting a used one with low mileage for around 35k. Can’t go wrong at that price
I can't believe kia has improved this much!
There is launch control. you needed to put it into sport mode and hold the TC button until it turns off ESC.
In Canada, the top trim does come with AWD and LSD which are awesome, but it doesn't have adaptive suspension.
I have been waiting so long for this review!! Thanks so much!
got my 2018 stinger with 8k miles at the end of 2021 love it
u didnt do the launch control right btw, u need to hold it for 5 sec with traction and esc off
I just leased Honda Accord sport this year after my lease is up im definitely getting the stinger next
Hey Topher, could you get a S5 sportback to review? I'd love to hear your thoughts, that and the m340i and TLX type s are my favorite performance sedans at the moment.
My 2019 Kia Sorento has the same V6 engine it seems (albeit naturally aspirated) & the same 8 speed auto and that thing can really pedal to the metal. I can't imagine how a turbocharged, aerodynamic low to the ground sedan variant of it can be
I can't believe how quiet that motor is, even under the hood. Beats my Toyota V6.
I bout my Gt a few days ago and I can’t stop spinning the tires it’s so fun!!!!
I had this car back in June, 2022 Kia Stinger GT2, Snow White pearl with red interior. I bought it however crashed and it got totaled back in November. Only con of car for me was the brakes, but nothing biggie, replaced once by dealer in first 6,000 miles I did indeed drive it very hard, but it doesn’t cost much to switch to aftermarket. Still miss the car and the random looks from people. Lots of people ask hey man sick car what car is that? I replaced this car with a BMW M340. BMW feels faster than the stinger, however the quality on the buttons and such isn’t up to par as the Kia. It’s great though!
The driving assistance feature is SUPER GOOD.. I may or may not have left the driver seat on the highway for a video… did not crash either^ LOL
In terms of performance, AWD to AWD. This Stinger or the CT5 V? Not just straight line performance, but all metrics. Turn in, corner exit, which drive modes differs the most.
I would go stinger on this one..full option stinger 55k.. fully option ct5 v 69 to 71k which for that price you could get charger hellcat..mid option m550i bmw..fully option s5..few more vehicle too.for what you get in a stinger at that price fully loaded..it would be the way to go
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Yeah I'm not the one for the features. About the only features I require is remote start to get it ready for the drive. And a sun roof to let more natural light in. If I'm looking for a feature packed car most likely its going to be for my wife. I'm more visceral, from my understanding the Stinger is slightly quicker in a straight line. But the Cadillac is the one if you want to maintain fun speeds in cornering. I've listened to a few audio clips of both cars and the CT5 V has the one of the better sounding 6 cylinders. Almost every up shift pops. And the launch control sounds amazing. If my budget was higher it would probably be the V BW. But as it stands AWD and the $60k mark is my budget.
But the Stinger is a very good proposition. I've thought about getting the Stinger and getting a more sporty suspension setup and a better exhaust system for it. Maybe close the gap between the Stinger and CT5 V in terms of cornering and sounds.
@@99-Zulu are you more so looking at a 4 than a 2 door?
@@99-Zulu im not much in to bmw but i also order the m240i along with my stinger.. th-cam.com/video/xAJBMTja88w/w-d-xo.html but i would say definitely check out the m240i
@@samuelreid603 Bruh, did you really just compare a fully loaded Cadillac CT5-V to a Dodge Charger and a Kia Stinger?? Ha! Do you realize the joke in that? Apparently *not.*
I would say this car is the best car that you can get in this price range beside that people does not like the brand value of "KIA". Drove 2019 Stinger GT for an year and its absolute banger
Yeah the lack of a true digital dash drags down the interior. If they were going to use the one they did then the interior styling should have suited it too like a classic M3 BMW or something. As it is it looks like a mess.
@@DEVILTAZ35 yeah, the interior is kinda shitty lol
I raced 2 of these so far, In my infinit g37 sedan, I can say honestly, these cars are quick, I’m always behind them about a car length away or 2, but wow they are fast, I did not expect that the first time I raced one, why? Well my g37 almost always beats any v6 car that I usually race here in Florida, I want a stinger now!!
Yeah, but look at the price difference between the two! :|
Your launch control wasn’t properly activated. Gotta hold the traction button to fully turn off then you can launch, it will say it in the cluster
as a previous Kia Stinger owner I will never buy another Kia product, the rattle is definitely annoying but the biggest problem is the uncomfortable suspension, it’s too harsh for a vehicle that drives like a boat and has a massive amount of body roll. my shocks gave out TWICE. another problem is the transmission, the tuning of it doesn’t make sense for a sports car, the shifts aren’t as sharp as other torque converters (ZF8 for example) my transmission blew at 16k miles so I guess thank god for 100k mile warranty. and finally the tuning capability’s are underwhelming, these are hardly fast my Stinger was nearly 500whp but man the amount of money it cost to get there is not worth the cost. My opinion for potential Stinger buyers… just spend the extra $4k on an M340i like I did. $57k M340i XDrive is a much superior platform, it’s essentially an AWD Supra Sedan, that B58 is no joke… and the B58 also sounds a million times better than the Stinger’s 3.3 V6
I was under the impression that the 2022 GT did have a LSD? Like the 2019 GTS AWD drift car!
In the USA, the RWD option has a LSD, but the AWD does not.
Sad people care about brand name so much and don’t buy it just because it’s a Kia, if it had Benz or bmw on it they would sell . I love the Kia brand they make really good cars at a good price
Considering the upgrade from my Optima
The K5 definitely isn’t worth it in my opinion
As a former 2022 GT2 owner, this car was hard to give up. Also at around $1000 a month in ownership costs, it was also hard to NOT give up. When I lost my job it was the easiest decision ever to sell it after only owning it 3 months. First mods I recommend are oil catch can and a pedal commander; the acceleration really shines once you put in a pedal commander. Went full bolt on with mine and embarrassed a lot of people who scoff at Kia's
can you elaborate on the $1000 a month in ownership costs? Asking as a prospective buyer
You don't need an oil catch can unless you are tracking it all the time. speed doesn't change the quality or smoothness it lacks though. They look great new but then you realise they cheapened out with crap paint quality.
@@austinr4771 his monthly payments and insurance = ownership cost
@@austinr4771 payments insurance and gas. Gas was prolly more than my insurance lol
I thought the rattles coming from back that many 2018 owners complained about were fixed?? I also heard a 2019 owner got his rattles resolved by the dealer.
Man do I miss the Stinger 😭😭😭😭
if every manufacturer uses the same buttons and switches from lower models, wouldnt that make it par for the course? no one is going to voluntarily spend money on something if none of the other automakers are..
Reliable but fast car , and 4 doors , yea I’m sold
If they had a manual trans option, I'd consider one. Otherwise I'll keep my 10 year old Honda V6 with a 6 speed manual. Naturally aspirated, and not as fast, but more fun to drive. Regular unleaded too, no premium.
Rode in my friends stinger and oh my goodness I did not expect this car to be so fast
I am interested in possibly buying one of these for travel. Your video was helpful and well done. When you have a moment could you share what gear you used for the camera and mic? I have a car detailer client and this style of video would work well for showing their product and process.
Minor point. The HK sound system ain’t that good. Fine if you’re listening to the radio. Try plugging in your USB stick playing with MP3 files on it. The high frequency sounds are over amplified producing tinny t’s and hissing eases. It will make you wince. Even with the Clarifi and Quantum logic altered to try and compensate it still hurts. I know, get Apple car play but why should I have to?
What would be a better buy? Elantra N or Stinger gt2? I realize they are two different classes just two of the vehicles I’m looking at.
At 10:43 and 15:05 the transmission goes back to D from manual mode at a seemingly frustrating time. Did you trigger that yourself somehow?
Yea by holding the upshift button for a few seconds
It is a good car and competes well in the sport sedan category.
The rattles can be quieted by applying silicone to the weatherstripping at the doors and hatch. I've had no interior rattling.
Lol silicone spray won’t fix broke
It is just poor workmanship in general that causes it because it's made on the cheap . It has cheap suspension and interior parts mainly aside from brakes and engine etc. Even the so called high quality leather doesn't hold up at close scrutiny. Not a bad car just completely overpriced in Oz where the GT should be about 50k drive away new instead of the insane price they ask for.
@@DEVILTAZ35 I've sold the Stinger for an IS500. I miss the space of the Stinger but I couldn't pass up the V8
Does anyone here know what actually happens when you select the more aggressive exhaust note? Is it actually modifying the exhaust system (some kind of bypass), or is it just pumping more artificial exhaust sound into the cabin?
As far as I know 2022 (and possible the 2021) has an electronically controlled valve that opens when you switch to sport mode. There is still piped in audio but you can disable it in any mode.
@@jatexsiron Thanks! Glad some of the growl is real! One of the things I don't like about EV's for driving engagement is lack of a nice exhaust note. Still baffled why Ford didn't offer fake Mustang V-8 sounds in the Mach E.
Going into sport mode opens a valve in the exhaust to allow a real louder exhaust note. However you can also adjust the fake pumped in audio through a setting in the screen. I found the artificial noise to actually sound pretty good, I had no complaints with it since you can turn if off whenever.
Reminds me of a modern saab 900 with that hatch. I will own one hopefully by next year
It is exited, it is cool overall. But for this price... Did you see Lexus IS500 ? Audi S5 ? BMW M340i ? You can even have Genesis G70 with the same powertrain. Same manufacturer, not a big difference in a price. So what's the point of redesigned stinger?
If I hadn’t gotten the forte, I would’ve love this, even though I know these are priced more than the forte, of course but I would have definitely loved to have shelled out more money just to have the stinger
How much do the rattles bother you? Would it deter you from buying one? I have a 2022 Hyundai Sonata N Line and there are rattles and squeaks coming from the trunk; specifically the torsion rods. There is also a creaking coming from the left trunk hinge when the body flexes. It's my car now and I don't feel like there's any point in taking back to the dealer because I don't know what they could possibly do. It's frustrating but the only thing I can do is trade it in. I love everything else about the car though 😌
Don't let it bother you, I've driven a ton of new cars these past couple days, even a Porsche that had 15k miles and had an annoying rattle somewhere in the dash. It's always a hit or miss with new cars nowadays when it comes to rattles.
@@AnthonyCessor sad but true. Thanks.
Mr Topher, are we buying a stinger or TLX type s!?
If I were u I would get the tlx type s. It's a better car overall
@@wheretfisnoah it’s not. it’s slower but i agree it looks little better but again tlx is very common car. i have stinger gt1 and i get lot of looks and compliments
@@kamronhd7763 The TLX is a hood car depending on where you're at, especially in NYC lol
@@wheretfisnoah no. Worse weight distribution, less usable space and motor falls flat on its face at 6k
@@Justin_GFM you’re mistaking the TLX with the Q50. Start watching ROCNYC.
Great review! Thanks! What are some common ways to fix interior rattles? My subarus and mazdas rattled above the glove box and my RS3 door panels rattled from the awesome loud exhaust.
9:00 man, why is this road surrounded by rocks!?!
In Germany, you can get a Benz, Audi or BMW for basically the same price. Especially when you are looking at the used market for both. 40k€ for a 2018-2019 model is just way too much for a fancy Kia.
Topher, I thought Kia was the brand that had cameras in each mirror that showed blind spot when you turn on your turn signal. Is that not that case?
Yes, this has it as well. Probably Topher just didn’t show
I cannot wait to buy my own Stinger
I’m getting my liscense in the summer, maybe when I’m older I’m gonna get some car around 25k, any suggestion
I “ordered” mine in April, dealership has told me month and month again, no updates. Nearly 5months of waiting, I called them Monday and I’m told I won’t get my 2022 gt2 Scorpion because they are not producing them anymore and most likely will get a 2023. Like WTF, I put in the order can’t they honor what I wanted, the specs I wanted? On top of that, they really told me this 5 months in, I’m so sad and heartbroken 😭💔
I really think that is the reason why not many are being sold, I’m literally ready to research for a different option but it’s going to be hard, I’ve been too excited to get this baby😮💨
Definitely a cool car but the heavy weight and high price point is kinda ehh..