The $200 product also makes the $20 product look like it’s better value. Plus maybe the $200 price could allow them to offer discounts that look more attractive.
in the long term, agreed. I do think that because the $200 price came second, the anchoring effect (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring_effect) is working in the wrong direction for them though!
Free Plan: Access to the smallest models, like 4o mini. Plus Plan: Includes access to the larger 4o model and o1 (with advanced features like voice mode), but usage of o1 is limited, possibly to something like 25 messages per week. Pro Plan: Designed for researchers and users with complex tasks who are willing to pay more. The main difference from the Plus plan is the level of access to the more expensive models, like o1. For example, Pro users paying $200/month can use o1 Unlimited, whereas Plus users are restricted by the weekly message cap.
I am convinced that Sama did this just to piss off all of us who pay only $20. Also, this is the weirdest angle I've ever seen on YT video. Also Also, thanks - you provided a perspective on this I wasn't seeing. Good stuff. Looking forward to more videos on this channel.
thanks for watching and I'm glad you liked it! also: philosophically, the weird angle and the unique perspective go hand in hand ;) see you in the next one!
I agree! OpenAI is targeting the pro plan for pro's for researchers to people doing highly complex things. For most people having unlimited access isn't really needed nor do they need O1 pro. for some this might be more affordable since if a consumer needs a more advanced model they can upgrade to pro for a month use it for the specific tasks they need then downgrade back to plus. issue being paying for it annually is where it is expensive it's around 2k but the people who will need these models make enough to pay 2k a month for the benifits it provides.
makes sense to make the "Pro" plan for pros, right? (lol) I do think that the word "Pro" has been polluted a little in Silicon Valley product marketing, so it actually feels a little refreshing to see how useful the distinction is in these emerging product categories
o1 preview was also rate limited. The rate limit is supposedly higher with the full release of o1. However it feels less the valuable because I suspect o1 uses less thinking tokens than o1 preview.
totally! that is what I'm trying to (and failing to, it seems) say here. the differentiation between Plus and Pro is new, and whereas 'Pro' features would have fallen into Plus before, they now have a new place to 'live'
@@uncoverage yeah from your video it sounds like o1 was removed from plus entirely.. nonetheless some insightful points, kept thinking about the video!
i love your videos, i think they are very calming :D
tech geek asmr in nature landscape 😊
thanks for watching!
The $200 product also makes the $20 product look like it’s better value. Plus maybe the $200 price could allow them to offer discounts that look more attractive.
in the long term, agreed. I do think that because the $200 price came second, the anchoring effect (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring_effect) is working in the wrong direction for them though!
Free Plan: Access to the smallest models, like 4o mini.
Plus Plan: Includes access to the larger 4o model and o1 (with advanced features like voice mode), but usage of o1 is limited, possibly to something like 25 messages per week.
Pro Plan: Designed for researchers and users with complex tasks who are willing to pay more. The main difference from the Plus plan is the level of access to the more expensive models, like o1. For example, Pro users paying $200/month can use o1 Unlimited, whereas Plus users are restricted by the weekly message cap.
I seen someone blow through that credits from $200 in less then a hour so it's not exactly worth it
wow, really? how are they portioned out?
@uncoverage they made tons of video that didn't go anywhere since it burned up the credits
I am convinced that Sama did this just to piss off all of us who pay only $20.
Also, this is the weirdest angle I've ever seen on YT video.
Also Also, thanks - you provided a perspective on this I wasn't seeing. Good stuff. Looking forward to more videos on this channel.
thanks for watching and I'm glad you liked it! also: philosophically, the weird angle and the unique perspective go hand in hand ;) see you in the next one!
I agree! OpenAI is targeting the pro plan for pro's for researchers to people doing highly complex things. For most people having unlimited access isn't really needed nor do they need O1 pro. for some this might be more affordable since if a consumer needs a more advanced model they can upgrade to pro for a month use it for the specific tasks they need then downgrade back to plus. issue being paying for it annually is where it is expensive it's around 2k but the people who will need these models make enough to pay 2k a month for the benifits it provides.
makes sense to make the "Pro" plan for pros, right? (lol)
I do think that the word "Pro" has been polluted a little in Silicon Valley product marketing, so it actually feels a little refreshing to see how useful the distinction is in these emerging product categories
@@uncoverage Agreed! just like the iphone max pros that normal people buy.
o1 preview was also rate limited. The rate limit is supposedly higher with the full release of o1. However it feels less the valuable because I suspect o1 uses less thinking tokens than o1 preview.
this makes me wish I had tested o1-preview more extensively before the change. thanks for the added context!
6:45 where is the Apple
Studio in this typology?
I think the "Studio" brand is an extension of the model, sitting between "Consumer" and "Professional"!
What a weird opening shot😳😳😳
It's kinda his thing that makes him stand out lol. I like it.
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9:50 I think he gets to the point.
Do people prefer $200 wine over $20 wine because it taste better or because you paid more for it?
great comp!
200 bucks a month their servers better not go down😂
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I still have access to o1….
Also the o1 models of the two plans are different. OpenAI has a video where they walk you through it
totally! that is what I'm trying to (and failing to, it seems) say here. the differentiation between Plus and Pro is new, and whereas 'Pro' features would have fallen into Plus before, they now have a new place to 'live'
@@uncoverage yeah from your video it sounds like o1 was removed from plus entirely.. nonetheless some insightful points, kept thinking about the video!
why can you say they're just scammers, why do you defend these people?
drop the timestamp!