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At last - the complete review of TheCarGuys’ Porsche 911 993 C4S - it’s the one you’ve all been asking for!
Bought sight unseen on the Collecting Cars auction website, retrieved from Scotland, and then mechanically and bodywork fettled, this Forest Green Metallic beauty has been a CarGuys fan favourite ever since.
But Jason has never driven it. And we’ve never done the ultimate review. Until now…
Join Damian and Jason in this episode for a detailed look at the inside and outside of the 993 C4S, what makes it special, its history, its features, and of course a full road test and review, including a smidgen of Beans.
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I impulse buy a stick of bubble gum and a candy bar at the grocery store checkout, Damian impulse buys a 993. We’re really no different him and I
Very well observed sir 😂
Nice.
I've a 1996 993 C2 iris blue metallic, 66,000 miles, 6-speed manny tranny, varioram, LSD. No CEL, no oil leaks. Multi-show full-concours winner. I do my own maintenance. I'm never selling it.
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Definitely a keeper...superb car from a superb era. Back in the day when 'the model down from the range topper' was still great. 306 GTI & 306 XSI, Impreza STI & WRX, Cerbera V8 & speed six, Esprit V8 & GT3 being cases in point....
I use my 993 C4 all year around. Your C4S is a very good example. I agree the steering is not as nice as the C2, but such low numbers produced mean buying the best car you can afford always means a compromise. I prefer the narrow bodied cars, but any 993 is a good buy and a lovely drive.
I got my 2002 Sony camcorder out of the shed just to do the door shot moment. All in 4:3 ...
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The 993 has always been one of my favourite designs of 911. Not got the horrid big plastic bumpers of the 964 and better looking than the 996. The spec of yours is just about spot on. I'd probably get rid of the Techart rear spoiler TBF and keep it looking standard.
Beans on a Friday.....Mr Brewer does not know what he is missing !
Honestly, I’m glad he didn’t show. I’d rather see Edd.
14:45 The Le Mans explanation of the starter key position is a myth that can't be killed. I don't believe it. Because the car would already sit in first gear when the driver comes running over and starts it. In that regard there is no need for a free left hand.
Here in Germany, its homeland, the key is on the left while in normal cars it's on the right. Porsche says the heart beats on the left. A much cuter explanation. 😉
Great vid guys. Seeing all the details takes me back to being a 10 year old back in the late nineties when my Dad had a Zenith blue 993 C2S. The best car he ever owned. Seeing this video reminds me about just how amazing it was. Definitely the car my Dad never should have sold!! Thanks for the nostalgia guys! Still my favourite gen of 911. 🙏
Glad to have you watching
Outstanding video gentlemen! The door sound took me back to my youth and by brothers 911. The sound of it opening is a sound I will never forget. Thank you for the wonderful memories. Cheers!
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As a 70s baby, Forest Green is something quintessentially 90s for me. I recall that greens were scoffed at as being something that was out of style back then. And this color brought it back. I think it still holds up today. I love the wing, but would probably be annoyed if it was the cause of the scraping. So toss up there. Would be great to find a way to keep it. Continue to love the videos guys. All these years on.
For the first time, I'm Forest Green with jealousy. This is my fave 911, and with prices as crazy as they've become, it's unlikely I'll be able to afford one, or ever drive one. Thanks for sharing!
This and Irish green are the best color a 911 can come in..esp when combined with tan interior
The Mona Lisa of automobiles. It will never be surpassed.
A proper Porsche. I love the 993 as much as I dislike the 996 and I even have a soft spot for the Targa. The 993 was the last 911 before the Accountants came in, though the Accountants were in reality Toyota! Great car and spec - even the wing oddly makes sense - shame it will not be a keeper.
Only 30 seconds in and reminded why I love the 993, looks fantastic. Best wheels too
This was a great review! You and your mate have such a complementary rapport- each of you is critical of different things, but offer the critiques in a fun, engaging way. You can tell you guys have been friends a long time.
Glad you enjoyed it!
As always very educational video! What a beautiful color! !Thanks for sharing.
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Great review. Coloured interiors go so well with this age of 911
Great video lads. I have the exact some colour and interior spec 993, except mine is a C2S. The steering feel and precision on the C2S is absolutely glorious.
Wow - send us some pics
It is funny how times change. I owned a 993 C2 in period (for 15 years) and always lusted over the C4S (with leather trim and xenon lights). I get my period fun now from a 348, but do miss the 993 - it did everything well.
Love the spec. Like the wing. I don't normally like big wings, but I like this one.
I love the looks & The Colour. It’s just so, so, so-right. The size of the 993 C4S just sits right with Me. V informative as always D&J.
I’ve just re-watched it again as I do nearly all of Your Videos (they’re just the right duration for me - I find it hard to sit down in one place for too long) & I spotted a few sample bottles in the glove box!. During my years of Rehab from My Special Type of Vodka and Devils Dandruff and used to have lots of the old “sample bottles” rattling around, I get ya 😜😘
Oddly enough I bought a Jag XFR one Friday night Lagged up, back in the bad old days…..living in Leeds the trip down to Guildford to collect the car the following week wasn’t one of my better moves…….
993 is most modern designed looking Porsche. It’s my fav.
Loved mine; had it when it was the current model. “Triple Black” as our American cousins would say… black paint, black leather and black convertible roof. Fair to say the tiptronic gearbox wasn’t to everybody’s taste but a godsend in traffic . 👍
Great viewing ad always! Keep it up C.guys!! 👍
Much appreciated!
Damian - maybe consider a chassis set-up at Centre Gravity ? They can work wonders turning the most reluctant chassis into a car that flows with you and the road. Also the process is fascinating ... might make a nice vid (no allegiance to CG)
That’s a lovely car Boys. Don’t ever fail to appreciate it. God bless.
Great episode. Not a Porsche guy me but nonetheless. A great fun entertaining watch. Glad Yr man Jason was there. Love his honesty. Keep it up guys. Can't wait until Fiday.
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It’s my favorite 911 generation!! 🥰
As an owner of many 911s, the 993 is the best, IMO. Even compared to my new 992GT3 (lovely and brilliant that it is, it lacks soul and analog driver experience that the 993 gives).
👍👍 Really good summary Guys. Truely worthy of your garage. A turbo does have power to override the steering feel but costs a lot more to maintain (eg have to remove the intercooler often to get to the engine).
PS, leave the techart spoiler on it. The spare lid that you have is NOT a C4S, it is from a C2S.
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Beautiful car, but that wing... I'd lose it
I know right, it's like a faux turbo and adds nothing to the classic 911 shape!
She is a looker and a keeper, in my opinion
Definitely a worthy member to have as part of the garage.
Lovely spec and learnt a lot on the 993! A lot of effort obviously went into pulling the review together. Exactly the colour scheme I would order for it 👍
Much appreciated!
She's a beauty! Those wider rear arches really do set it off.
I could have spent hours just looking at the lines of this car. But the drive home was pretty special as well.. !
993 is absolute Porsche perfection. I don't like the rear wing on this though. It'd look even better without the fixed wing and orange front turn signals would give the front a great contrast. Other than that, that is my absolute dream car.
I own now my third 993.A C2 Cabriolet with varioram engine and manual shifter. Had the same creepy Becker stereo. Replaced it with a Blaupunkt Bremen with DAB 😊Definitely to recommend!
Gorgeous car. Nothing like the feel behind the wheel of a 993!
I’ve seen this beast in the Flesh (the 993 not Damian) and confirm the camera does not do it justice ! Just needs a sound system to bring it into 2023 and this would make a great daily ! Keep making amazing videos you two hooligans ! ❤
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The 993 is my favorite 911 ever !
That color, should be available on every car ever made.
Damian - another great vid (imminent sales pitch?) - please realign the left rear exhaust tip ! ...5 minute job :-)
Very nice. Looks no different to the turbo 993 which I think is goat looking 911. And the spec is lovely and like a jag, part carpet doors! And sunroof!
You can tell it’s had a recent mot by the fastened rear seatbelts!
Why do they always leave them fastened
I'm half way through and loving it. Jason buying this Land Rover Green and tan 993 whilst drunk on an auction site whilst considering he picked up the car from Scotland I bet the seller was too.
"I paid a bit over the odds"
In hindsight it does not matter, a fantastic back story.
Best seats in the business, awesome video thanks for taking the time to produce it.
👍🏻👍🏻 Appreciate that
The 993 is peak Porsche for me. Love the green.
Wing looks perfect 👍
aaargh!!! ...That squint left rear exhaust tip doesn't do much for my OCD.. Apart from that.. :This review makes me want to get one!! Great video as ever!!
What I have learnt from this vid, have a few drinks before buying and you will get a great example :)
Excellent!
Nice looking 911. I would definitely keep the spoiler on the back as it gives it more of an aggressive shape. Colour combo is rather unique. I would keep it 👍
oh yes, and you've got the old turbo seats (964), which are the best seats ever in a 911 and are still better then most of the modern seats as well
I think I’ve finally folded and found the perfect 911 for me
Stunning spec, great video!
Glad you liked it!
Its strange how the 993 is not more popular, to me it's the best looking air cooled 911. I think the 930's popularity with builders like Rauh Welt and Singer has effected it.
Have owned my 993 C4S for over 20 years and wont sell it in my lifetime. Had a Carrera S and narrow body Carrera but none were as well rounded and ticked all the boxes like the 4S. The Carrera S steering was not much better. By comparison my narrow body Carrera steered better but that was after some modifications to suspension, wheels and a Momo Prototipo. But I like the ability to push harder on less ideal back roads in the 4S.
Good to know, thanks
Great review guys. There's an easy fix for the heavy steering involving a revision to the suspension geometry so that it's closer to that of the RS. It makes a huge difference to the way the car feels.
I love that colour combination.
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I’ve had two 993s a C2 and a turbo, this really makes me miss them, fantastic cars to own, parts are getting pricey though! If it were mine I’d lose the big rear wang, the standard one shows off the lovely lines better ….. enjoy it though 👍🏻
Its a beautiful example and the colour contrast of the exterior and interior is great. Lovely!
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The Jasonator is hard to impress but he is right - YOU MUST KEEP THE WING!
Lovely car. But take out the spacers if they are what is making it rub, surely. Also, from the side, does the back look lower? So, it might look better without them?
Entertaining and informative stuff - I'm all chillaxed now, as the kids say (or said about a decade ago).
Beautiful colour combination….👍🏼👍🏼🚗👍🏼👍🏼
Really enjoyed this episode. Awesome per sandard.
Glad you enjoyed it
That wing is actually an “aero-kit” wing. Which was an OEM option. That said… Yours could be an aftermarket wing from the likes of FVD. But regardless. It was an actual option from Porsche as new.
Also. Your car does NOT have “cruise control”. That’s the trip computer stalk. Which is linked to that digital display and was an optional extra…
Thank god for you
@@TheCarGuysTV LOL! 😂 Sorry! 993 nerd/expert/past Porsche sales specialist from the 993/996 era.
Recommendation: Take the spacers off. It’ll drive better.
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my two favourite people !
woo! great episode
Stunning colour combo 😍
Looks great in that green, nice review
Thanks!
You had me at Porsche! ❤
Rather tasteful colour combination , lovely .
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On a wet dreary day,I was blown into the puddles at a traffic light Grand Prix by one of these(in my xr3i😂) it was complete with ‘whale tail’ and left a 10 foot rooster of water in the air as it vanished, I have loved them ever since😊
Oh wow!
The intake noise that kicks around 5,500 RPM is the varioram. Not a tech but I’m theory after those RPM airflow in the air goes through some other channels of the intake manifold to guarantee full torque.
When you get to that torque point the car starts screaming
I owned a Carrera S and then a 4S for a decade. Personally I much preferred the steering feel and nose weight of the 4 Vs the 2. The 2 was always light and floaty not inspiring confidence. Lovely cars and though I’m not missing mine too badly, it was a fantastic car that provided a lot of enjoyment in my time with it.
Exactly the same for me. The 4S is still with me after twenty years. The Carrera S left my garage 3 odd years ago when I needed to downsize.
The car is really superb! Thanks for the great description of all details! In my eyes forestgreen is the best you can get. My own C4S is oakgreen, also pretty seldom. And never forget that green is the favourite colour of the Porsche family😉
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Beautiful car, although the noise doesn’t do much for me. Actually changed my mind sounded good towards the end :)
Sports seats, hard backs. I would have mentioned those. Second hand can’t be found, or they are over $10K in the U.S.
Sometimes I go in the garage, stand behind the rear of my 993 C4S and just look at it. It has the best rear
Leave the big wing. Can't beat that tough look
Damien ,quick question,why sell the turbo you had and keep the c4s ?my favourite car channel by the way
A 993 would be the one Classic to attract my money. Highly enjoyable video guys making my want even higher
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That colour combo is the business…
The _best_ looking generation.
I’d suggest you swap the orange side indicator lens for clear versions to complement the overall aesthetic….
Looks sits lovely Damian. Green over tan 911
Lovely car and interesting video 🚗🚙🚘👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Many thanks
That one beautiful piece of engineering 😀😀
Almost perfect. Love the colour combo, hate the spoiler.
Looks to me as though the car does have the hollow spoke wheels - I think I saw the metal valves. If the wheels are solid spoke they will have normal rubber valves.
As drunk impulse buys goes, this is a pretty good one.
Edit: Green on tan interior is not an old man spec 😂… you can’t get more on trend than that.
Half inch wider on the front wheels helps with understeer on the 964 C4 and I’d guess it would be the same on the 993? Lovely car. 👍
Seem like there are just a few minor annoyances. A little fettling (alignment, ride height adjustment, spacer tweaking) could mitigate them and make it just more enjoyable. Also, being a rugged Porsche, one can absolutely cane it.
It’s a dream spec and absolutely gorgeous in every way
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I used to have a 993 convertible in iris blue with blue interior when I was 27. I traded my 964 for this car. It's been a bad discission. 964 always. Now 23 years later.
Great episode. I love your style of commenting. maybe that is because I am of the same build year 😀
That's great to hear and glad you liked the episode, Dag
@@TheCarGuysTV always 😃
Great review, with the blot of falling into the caricature of slating the C2 as being dangerously wayward. Which it really isn't (I've had 3)
We didn't say that at all
The drop in ride height maybe causing it to push. Maybe raise the rear half an inch and if there's spacers in the front Maybe try it without them first to see if that improves it.
Please Damian, don’t sell this one 😂❤ I’m still heart broken since you sold your lovely 930 turbo
Inspired me to get the keys and take mine out for a drive. Top video guys.
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Make sure radio issue is alternator starting to go...sending too much power and triggering safety cutoff on stereo... this was first sign on mine
After this you could rebrand yourselves as "The Honest Car Guys". Enjoyed it.
We’ve always been honest! 😀
I have had a Midnight Blue Carrera 2 for 16 years! Great cars. You need to get the inside of the wheel arches rolled at the top to stop the scraping. Not a difficult job. Engine is lovely and unburstable and the build quality is superb. Main things to watch are always dry the brakes before garaging or the inner disc faces corrode and don't let water sit under the corners of the windscreen and rear screen after washing the car or the frames will rot! Rear bumper stays eventually rot out, plastic head covers crack and heat protection round exhaust is prone to rattle! Air con is not brilliant even when working properly and is expensive to fix. Oh, and mine has doubled in value since I bought it!
Thanks for all the tips, Simon 👍🏻
@@TheCarGuysTV No problem. Sorry, sounded ultra nerdy on reading back!
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Lovely car and keep the wing on
Lovely car but you are talking yourself into the 2S…. The Turbo bodied 2wd car👍👍