@@Zxromance i was about to say "yes it does" because i SWEAR it did support digital controls... then i checked the back of my Persona 4 game case and sure enough, analog controls only! the mandela effect sure is freaky, eh? persona 3 fes does support digital controls, however, so there's something.
I'm willing to bet that the Freedom Fighters bug is due to the polling rate of the IR input. The engine was slowing to match how often the IR receiver was checking for input. This would explain why even compatible games felt sluggish
@@markusTegelane i think you are right, haven't had a remote in like 10 years so i don't remember. I have a fat with a hard drive in it so i would need a adapter to mess with it now
The "analog control" box means that it works with the PS2's analog face buttons. Circle, cross, square and triangle are ANALOG buttons on the DualShock 2. Digital controls means it's compatible with the original DualShock or PS 1 controller.
The issue is that they might interfere with each other heavily, as they are all designed equal and very very likely blast/receive the same wavelength of IR.
@@sethseth6ify Only one way to find out! Edit: Where there's a will, there's a way. I'm thinking the IR receivers could each sit inside their own cardboard box, tipped on the side, lined with foil inside. Then run PS2 controller extension cables from the console or multitap through the bottom of each box, tape it up, and plug the receivers in. Each player could hold their remote in the open end of each box. It's crazy enough, it just might work.
@@sethseth6ify Sure, it's completely pointless and ridiculous, but that's the point, lol. With the right group of people, I think it would be a hilarious event.
That sounds awesome just for the stupidity alone would be awesome, I could see it being done for a Charity Event of sorts, just for the ridiculousness of it.
The literal bottomless well of PS1 games this thing feasibly works with is terrifying to even think about. Half tempted to test it on a few FMV games like BrainDead 13 since they're among the only that come to mind where you never have to hit more than one button at once.
I remember once when I was younger as a dare I beat Final Fantasy 7 any% with the remote and had a blast doing it. I wish Sony would do more unintentionally cool stuff like this now. This was my first wireless controller and my parents hated me for using it.
@@Zeromaru42 - Well it's pretty unintentionally cool that they're keeping the PS3 store open LONG after Nintendo shut down their store from that gen...unintentionally cooler that the entire contents of the Wii eShop is abandonware available for free on archive.org now though! 😆
I was really good at Tekken Tag Tournament and after we figured out that we could sorta play with the DVD remote, the remote became like a handicap, and it was the only way some of my buddies would play me. I finally have a reason to share that stupid story
FYI, I’m pretty sure the digital label also applies to being able to use either a standard or dualshock ps1 controller, since they don’t have analog buttons.
I was about to comment this and yeah thats true also Burnout 3 and those other games that say they have digital control but dont work are falsely labled, as they don't work on a digital controller from a ps1 as well
My best friend in school used to have one of those remotes. When we were over at his place playing Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit, one of us had the task of pressing the L3 button on the remote to boost because we didn't know where L3 was on the controller.
Whoever invented clickable sticks was evil. Either they have too much give and click in accidentally when you're under stress and handling the sticks a little too roughly, or they don't have enough give and it's a pain to use them. And don't get me started on games that make you click them both in at the same time.
@@stevethepocket I hate being forced to use L3/R3 in any game. Especially if I can't change the controller settings. Being forced to click just so I can run is SOOO unintuitive.
The PS2 remote control is the reason I'm aware of being able to click in the sticks on controllers, I remember talking to my friend and us being baffled that there was an L and R 3.
12:00 every french guy watching the video is going wtfffff ?!? Yes this is a freebox remote. And I think that's my fault. (And it is not compatible with Xbox 360)
@@linkfanandroid Moi aussi, j'ai du repasser la séquence, une amie d'enfance avait cette télécommande y a 10 ans, sur le coup j'ai fais un gros bloquage, puisqu'elle n'avait pas la xbox360... A force j'ai regardé les commentaires et vlam, ils se sont trompés. OUFF
My younger brother used to troll me so much whenever I was playing Jak 2 when we were kids. All of a sudden Jak would start jumping, the menus were going haywire like when your controller is broken. I'd plug and unplug the controller and 2 minutes later he's right back at it untill I'd catch him. Pretty sure I ended up throwing the remote out after getting sick of that.
Reminds me of the old TV remote watches that were made in the 90s, and messing with the teacher when they bring in the AV cart and play a movie. Oh, and no joke, my 1st word was "reset". I would run up to the Atari 2600 my older brother was playing and say "Re Set" and reset his and game and run away.
I remember trolling my sister with this remote everytime she played The Sims, courtesy to my uncle who didn't know what to buy me for Christmas. Made her Sims "forget" what they were supposed to do.
I used that remote when I beat Kingdom Hearts for the first time. My ds2 controller stopped working from the right side and I just happened to have the remote and the young me was too impatient to wait for a shopping trip to get a new controller so I was actually able to beat the final boss with ds2 in one hand and the remote in another :D
@@hi_there3973 The PS3 actually has a blu-ray remote with similar buttons, so no adapter needed unless you only have the PS2 remote and the adapter is cheaper.
Hey Derek the glitch that occurred at around 7:30 where seemingly random inputs happen might be caused by a lightbulb in the room emitting infrared radiation. Clint from LGR had the same problem when he was reviewing an IBM wireless keyboard. You may have switched on a light at that moment and then turned it off later
Wow, I can't believe someone managed to make a whole video out of an accessory that many original PS2 and PS3 owners had! The reason many of us had it was because we didn't have DVD players and controller cord lengths were not ideal for watching DVDs from comfort. Another issue - if you knocked your controller during playback, it would start pressing buttons, accidentally drop it on the floor and it could exit the dvd, starting from the beginning. Wait until he hears that you could get TV on the PS3 and the kit to do so came with a sticker to put on your DVD remote, telling you it's functions in Play TV...
I found a different model of these today in a thrift shop and wanted to test it myself, thanks Derek for this video, the rabbit hole about PS2/DVD Controllers has just begun.
Great video! I got that PS3 Media Remote recently and it works about the same, you just have to set the remote from controller 7 to controller 1 to play anything on it, but it works on any game that doesn't require sticks and actually accepts multiple inputs since it's Bluetooth rather than IR which is really great
I'm sure someone's specified this before, but I can't find anyone saying it in the comments. Digital, when it comes to controllers, refers to actual digits. 1 or 0, the button is pressed or it isn't, there is no in between. Whereas, analogue means there is a potential range of movement. It could be pressed a little bit or all the way and it acknowledges the difference between those two. The more you know or something
I recall having one for a PS2 back then - it was particularly useful actually, because while I had no issues operating the DVD features with a controller - my parents struggled with it. A remote was a lot more intuitive for people who had no idea how to operate a games console but wanted to use the DVD player feature of the system. It's pretty much the only sensible use-case for the thing I can think of, but it is / was a valid one.
So the “Digital” and “Analog” features were not about the d-pad or analog stick, it was about the specific upgrades of the Dual Shock 2. So the DS2 had actual analog buttons that allowed for pressure sensitive action. The most common example; in MGS2, you can release the square button that aims your gun, and if you do it lightly, you will not fire a shot. Now, if you tried this with a PSX Dual Shock controller plugged in, it’ll fire every time and you can’t put your weapon away without shooting (unless you quickly menu to unequip your gun, which is what you also have to do in the Twin Snakes on GameCube that uses the MGS2 engine without analog buttons on the GC controllers). I know this may get buried in a lot of comments, but you can test some of those games that required the Dual Shock 2 with a PSX Dual Shock and you should get the same incompatible error. This was a cool feature that was kind of under utilized or discussed about the DS2, and every generation Sony does something innovative with their controllers and people don’t give them enough credit. Love the videos!
I used to hide in another room with the PS2 DVD remote and press triangle when my brother was driving in GTA, then watch his confusion as I slowly give random inputs.
I have a hunch in what makes the remote compatible with a game or not. When I had a PS2, I commonly used a PSone branded PS1 dualshock controller. It worked with most games, but there were several that absolutely required a DS2 controller. So as long as it supports a PS1 controller, theoretically it should support the remote in some capacity
Speaking of DVD remotes, DVD "games" like Tomb Raider The Action Adventure and ports of fmv games like Tender Loving Care, Dragon's Lair and Maddog Mcree would make for an interesting video. Or at least to me who grew up playing these.
I remember when I was younger, I was really into games based on movies; so one day while I was going through the tutorial for Batman Begins, it said to press L3 to go into stealth mode. Now, as a child who could barely read and had no idea that the analog sticks could be used as buttons, I assumed there was no way for me to perform this action. That was until I got this remote and saw that it had a button labeled L3. Needless to say, anytime a game asked me to use the L3 button, I went looking for this remote.
As I recall, there was a larger remote made for PS4 in the early days. There's also a few different models of the PS3 one. The one I've got has a button that works with the PlayStation 3D Display, which as far as I'm aware is the smallest 3D TV ever made.
WARNING!! A lil misunderstood was Committed at 11:46! The Remote Shown as an Xbox Remote isn't one! there is a remote from a TV-Box From FREE carrier in France named "FreeBox V5" around 2010 if I remember well.
I'm pretty sure DVD technology was pretty new at the time of the PS2's release. The remote was probably there to be a more "familiar" option for those who purchased the PS2 to be their first DVD player and may have been confused or intimidated by the game controller. That's my assumption because otherwise it's just weird.
I'm not sure *why* exactly I got this pretty early on in having my PS2. I guess the hype of it being a DVD player made having a remote for that seem necessary. I can recall using it a bit for watching DVD's [I only had a few but I know I played the crap out of 8 Mile for sure haha]. However, I think where it got the most use for me was playing FF7-9. It was really nice having a wireless controller for a casual game like that.
Derek, I remember using this remote to play FF Tactics because my mom's boyfriend took my controller and hid it (he's out of the picture now). It actually worked pretty well for that game, though.
@@SuperPoopatron I wouldn't say that was the case They didn't do paid online (unlike Microsoft) and the price of the console was fairly justifiable due to the specs and overall quality The thing still sold like shit because both consoles where expensive and the PS3 was even more so, with a more limited library to boot
@@rompevuevitos222 Sold like shit initially but ended up outselling Xbox 360 by *just* a hair! But there's no denying Sony was arrogant back then, and it wasn't about the price. The real arrogance was that Sony just expected people to know how to work with the Cell processor without giving much documentation and deliberately designed the Cell to be difficult in hopes that developers would end up writing much custom code for the PS3 it would make their games difficult or impossible to port to another platform. Of course, Xbox 360 came to market first so developers coded for that console first, therefore PS3 was the console that continually got worse ports (all Bethesda games, Bayonetta, Grand Theft Auto IV, Red Dead Redemption, and many more) but also had amazing exclusives.
project diva F with the ps3 blu-ray remote is a surprisingly satisfying control scheme if you dont wanna shill out $600 for the official hori diva pad. you still need a ds3 for some of the inputs tho
So the digital vs analogue control thing is actually more to do with the two pressure sensitive face buttons added to the DualShock2 (cross and square I think?). Code Veronica won't play if you plug in a DualShock1 because it uses those button functions
Oh man, this one brings back memories! I've had both the PS2 and PS3 remotes, and my family used them pretty frequently. It was always more convenient to use the remotes than a controller because of the cord issue and being able to toggle captions easily. I can't say I've ever thought of using the PS2 remote for a game, but I definitely remember using the PS3 remote in order to 100% LittleBigPlanet when I was 9. There were various areas in each level that needed multiple players, up to 4, but I only had 2 controllers... and the remote. Long story short, if I remember correctly, my 3 year old brother and I were able to drag that third player around the stage and get it to do what it needed to do, as the lack of analog meant it couldn't walk around. Could still grab things and hold down buttons though!
I'm mad about this video for two reasons: I want those SMT games he's has, and as soon as I saw the remote I remembered I had one... but it was almost certainly pitched when I moved house because it used to belong to my Step-dad and he throws EVERYTHING away regardless of whether it works or not...
I was a QA on a budget release PS2 game's North American release. Pirates: Legend of the Black Buccaneer. It had already released in Europe, so we only did localization testing and some work to ensure it would pass North American Sony certification. Some time after the game launched, I went back to the publisher for more work, and learned that, all this time, there was a bug in the game where the controls would not function if the DVD receiver was plugged in. It just made the game stop recognizing the controller in port 1. Apparently no one at any point, European QA, European certification, NA QA, or NA cert, tried the game with the remote receiver plugged in, much less tried to play the game with the remote itself.
As someone who’s owned dvd/blu ray remotes for the PS2, PS3, and PS4. The shoulder buttons on the controllers feel prone to getting tapped and fast forwarding or rewinding so the remote takes that away. Plus you can charge your controllers on the 3 and 4 while using the remote for movies. Also made it easier for the older people in my house to use as a DVD/blu ray player.
I honestly really do like these remotes for their intended function. Using a controller to control a movie feels strange and usually the triggers and bumpers are mapped to things, so if you brush up against it wrong or set it down wrong then hello next scene. Also doesn't help that Sony keeps on changing what buttons do what in each generation. Having things clearly labeled as their movie related function without having to bring up a big obtrusive onscreen menu to search for what you want to do is very nice.
I'm already stoked just starting this video. I had this thing (and the OG xbox DVD playback controller) and not once did child me think "I'll play a game with this :)" but leave it to SSFF to tackle the question we all should have had.
"Any unauthorized conflict, dueling, fisticuffs, bone throwing or skitter drama will be investigated by the SSFF and may constitute a penalty if up to buying us as a pizza." - SSFF. 2021
I was in HS when the PS2 released; had a remote and never thought anything of it. Back then, it wasn't unusual for the PS2 to be your first DVD player, and when you're kicking back with a movie in the living room you don't want to have get up & walk across the room to grab the controller just to pause.
testing a bunch of PS2 games on a DVD remote to see how they work just because you can. i have never thought about how a video game would control on a DVD remote until this moment. this is why i love this channel.
5:16 If anyone’s wondering why fighting games love the digital input format, it’s because, by this point, arcade stick controllers were being made with joystick levers that were digital in nature, emulating or even directly copying the levers found on arcade machines. So the best way for your down, down-forward, forward+punch input to throw a fireball to read is on a digital interface, MUCH better than an analog stick rolling from a 180° to a 90° or 270° input.
I can't remember the last time I saw this much excitement in anyone's eyes lol. This could open up a whole new category of speed running, though maybe "speed" is being generous.
Can confirm - setup a PS2 with just the remote for watching DVDs for a neighbor years ago. Kid went off to college - the main DVD died - this got setup as a “temporary solution” that ended up being used for like 10 years. It might still be setup in their guest bedroom now tbh...
This is exactly the content I come here for. "Should you play games with the DVD remote and its horrendous input lag? No! Can you? Absolutely! Is it hilarious, silly, and amazing? Of course!"
I did have a very personal reason to buy this remote: the ability to program titles. You see, back in the early days of TV shows being sold on DVD, a lot of DVDs did not have a play all option (Buffy the Vampire Slayer was notorious for this), so instead of having to go all the way back to the menu every time an episode ended, I could program my DVD to play the next episode immediately afterwards by making it go directly to the next episode.
1:41 I fr almost screamed when I saw one of my favorite gaming channels holding up a Danny Brown CD Absolutely amazing Man, I gotta buy that album on CD
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Playing Persona 4 with a TV remote is terrifyingly fitting.
it isn't compatible p4 doesn't support digital controls
@@Zxromance fat ps3 remote
@@TheAssassin642 oh yeah I was stuck on just the orginal ps2 remote
@@Zxromance i was about to say "yes it does" because i SWEAR it did support digital controls... then i checked the back of my Persona 4 game case and sure enough, analog controls only! the mandela effect sure is freaky, eh? persona 3 fes does support digital controls, however, so there's something.
[You turn on the Midnight Channel.]
"This might be the dumbest video we've ever made."
Good sir, are you aware of exactly what type of content I subscribed for?
I'm willing to bet that the Freedom Fighters bug is due to the polling rate of the IR input. The engine was slowing to match how often the IR receiver was checking for input. This would explain why even compatible games felt sluggish
Can't wait to hit Shuffle in Tekken and just see what the heck random moves come out
unfortunately games ignore anything that isn't a normal button, the only thing that can use the dvd buttons is the dvd player and possibly homebrew
@Tristan Lewis will you two go shill somewhere else
@@deadair32101 I think the shuffle, repeat, and program features are for the CD player only
@@markusTegelane i think you are right, haven't had a remote in like 10 years so i don't remember. I have a fat with a hard drive in it so i would need a adapter to mess with it now
@@deadair32101 report them for spam.
The "analog control" box means that it works with the PS2's analog face buttons. Circle, cross, square and triangle are ANALOG buttons on the DualShock 2.
Digital controls means it's compatible with the original DualShock or PS 1 controller.
Fun Idea: Get multiple DVD remotes for a multiplayer tournament charity stream.
The issue is that they might interfere with each other heavily, as they are all designed equal and very very likely blast/receive the same wavelength of IR.
@@sethseth6ify Only one way to find out!
Edit: Where there's a will, there's a way. I'm thinking the IR receivers could each sit inside their own cardboard box, tipped on the side, lined with foil inside. Then run PS2 controller extension cables from the console or multitap through the bottom of each box, tape it up, and plug the receivers in. Each player could hold their remote in the open end of each box. It's crazy enough, it just might work.
@@sethseth6ify Sure, it's completely pointless and ridiculous, but that's the point, lol. With the right group of people, I think it would be a hilarious event.
That sounds awesome just for the stupidity alone would be awesome, I could see it being done for a Charity Event of sorts, just for the ridiculousness of it.
break out the Tekken and Street Fighter.
I still remember you as the Happy Video Game Nerd.
Nice to see you still do new stuff.
I miss Starship Amazing. 😕
Oh yes. Me too brudah.
The literal bottomless well of PS1 games this thing feasibly works with is terrifying to even think about. Half tempted to test it on a few FMV games like BrainDead 13 since they're among the only that come to mind where you never have to hit more than one button at once.
I forgot about that one...interesting.
phantasy star and final fantasy would be good with this controller
I remember once when I was younger as a dare I beat Final Fantasy 7 any% with the remote and had a blast doing it. I wish Sony would do more unintentionally cool stuff like this now. This was my first wireless controller and my parents hated me for using it.
@@Zeromaru42 - Well it's pretty unintentionally cool that they're keeping the PS3 store open LONG after Nintendo shut down their store from that gen...unintentionally cooler that the entire contents of the Wii eShop is abandonware available for free on archive.org now though! 😆
@@JohnnyProctor9 the xbox 360 store is still up
Spoiler: Derek is emulating our entire universe on a PS2.
Now I know the true reason why I sometimes feel groggy in the morning, it's the console struggling to load my consciousness back in.
Time for a new save file, man. Get me out of here.
Shuffle my life Derek!
That explains the terrible fog the other morning
This explains my failing eyesight/draw distance.
This feels like discovering a new but much smaller house hidden under your kitchen.
I didn't think I could love Derek any more, then he pulled out the Atrocity Exhibition CD.
He literally spent his entire time testing a PS2 DVD remote to play games this man is a legend
"Buying us as pizza."
Brutal.
Edit: I edited my comment to fix a typo, now I’ve lost the heart apparently. Brutal indeed.
I was really good at Tekken Tag Tournament and after we figured out that we could sorta play with the DVD remote, the remote became like a handicap, and it was the only way some of my buddies would play me.
I finally have a reason to share that stupid story
FYI, I’m pretty sure the digital label also applies to being able to use either a standard or dualshock ps1 controller, since they don’t have analog buttons.
I was about to comment this and yeah thats true
also Burnout 3 and those other games that say they have digital control but dont work are falsely labled, as they don't work on a digital controller from a ps1 as well
My best friend in school used to have one of those remotes. When we were over at his place playing Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit, one of us had the task of pressing the L3 button on the remote to boost because we didn't know where L3 was on the controller.
Whoever invented clickable sticks was evil. Either they have too much give and click in accidentally when you're under stress and handling the sticks a little too roughly, or they don't have enough give and it's a pain to use them. And don't get me started on games that make you click them both in at the same time.
@@stevethepocket I hate being forced to use L3/R3 in any game. Especially if I can't change the controller settings. Being forced to click just so I can run is SOOO unintuitive.
@@smirglepapier531 I hate having to use that to sprint.
Please don't change the spelling error in the intro SSFF Warning, I like the idea of "buying you as pizza," and what that would look like 😊😅
Should also change pizza to "pizaz"!
The PS2 remote control is the reason I'm aware of being able to click in the sticks on controllers, I remember talking to my friend and us being baffled that there was an L and R 3.
This. THIS is the reason why I will never unsub from the patreon
12:00 every french guy watching the video is going wtfffff ?!?
Yes this is a freebox remote. And I think that's my fault. (And it is not compatible with Xbox 360)
J'avais la même réaction quand j'avais revu cette merveilleuse télécommande, hahaha !
@@linkfanandroid Moi aussi, j'ai du repasser la séquence, une amie d'enfance avait cette télécommande y a 10 ans, sur le coup j'ai fais un gros bloquage, puisqu'elle n'avait pas la xbox360... A force j'ai regardé les commentaires et vlam, ils se sont trompés. OUFF
Exactement, j'ai figé pendant 3s. (Bisouuuuuuuuus)
Content de te voir ici 😜
freebox HD to be precise
My younger brother used to troll me so much whenever I was playing Jak 2 when we were kids. All of a sudden Jak would start jumping, the menus were going haywire like when your controller is broken. I'd plug and unplug the controller and 2 minutes later he's right back at it untill I'd catch him. Pretty sure I ended up throwing the remote out after getting sick of that.
Reminds me of the old TV remote watches that were made in the 90s, and messing with the teacher when they bring in the AV cart and play a movie.
Oh, and no joke, my 1st word was "reset". I would run up to the Atari 2600 my older brother was playing and say "Re Set" and reset his and game and run away.
@@zackschilling4376 You're evil
I remember trolling my sister with this remote everytime she played The Sims, courtesy to my uncle who didn't know what to buy me for Christmas.
Made her Sims "forget" what they were supposed to do.
11:29 look! There I am Gary! Thanks for the shout out! Amazing episode!!!
I think at this point, it's probably easier to list the ways Derek hasn't managed to play Doom for a video.
He should do it as a challenge to others!
Never played Doom on a Pokewalker, get on it nerds!
Chapter 1: “Why Am I Doing This?”
A question I ask myself quite often.
Do you ask yourself that as you are getting crazy with cheese whiz ?
@@Gatorade69 Yes. All the time.
Imagine going to a friends house sitting down for some tekkin and he hands you the dvd remote.
Still better than Mad Catz
I used that remote when I beat Kingdom Hearts for the first time. My ds2 controller stopped working from the right side and I just happened to have the remote and the young me was too impatient to wait for a shopping trip to get a new controller so I was actually able to beat the final boss with ds2 in one hand and the remote in another :D
I have the PS3 remote and I remember being bored one day and just played some random games with it. The best way to play Buzz!
Ah, I figured there was a reason the remote had 4 colored buttons
some guy needs to beat Dark Souls with it, held naturally.
It's going to have to be the ps3 version with a ps2 to ps3 adapter we can do this
Dark Souls requires a dpad for the items and analogue sticks for both movement and camera, so good luck with that 😂
Pretty sure Dark Souls was a ps3 game?
@@hi_there3973 The PS3 actually has a blu-ray remote with similar buttons, so no adapter needed unless you only have the PS2 remote and the adapter is cheaper.
@@Thorogrimm if ppl can play it with a bunch of bananas they can manage with a remote
*Thing has buttons*
Derek "WHAT CAN I PLAY WITH THIS?!"
I suspect he even asks it when it doesn't have buttons.
Atrocity Exhibition? In my Punching Weight? Hell yeah!
Aint it Funny how it happens
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The mgs bit where the boss says he's not gonna lose to someone using a dvd remote 👀
This was me and my brothers second controller growing up. I got really good using that shit
I had to settle for the dancing mat, needless to say nobody wanted to be player 2 for more than 5 minutes
Hey Derek the glitch that occurred at around 7:30 where seemingly random inputs happen might be caused by a lightbulb in the room emitting infrared radiation. Clint from LGR had the same problem when he was reviewing an IBM wireless keyboard. You may have switched on a light at that moment and then turned it off later
Wow, I can't believe someone managed to make a whole video out of an accessory that many original PS2 and PS3 owners had!
The reason many of us had it was because we didn't have DVD players and controller cord lengths were not ideal for watching DVDs from comfort.
Another issue - if you knocked your controller during playback, it would start pressing buttons, accidentally drop it on the floor and it could exit the dvd, starting from the beginning.
Wait until he hears that you could get TV on the PS3 and the kit to do so came with a sticker to put on your DVD remote, telling you it's functions in Play TV...
I found a different model of these today in a thrift shop and wanted to test it myself, thanks Derek for this video, the rabbit hole about PS2/DVD Controllers has just begun.
Great video! I got that PS3 Media Remote recently and it works about the same, you just have to set the remote from controller 7 to controller 1 to play anything on it, but it works on any game that doesn't require sticks and actually accepts multiple inputs since it's Bluetooth rather than IR which is really great
I'm sure someone's specified this before, but I can't find anyone saying it in the comments.
Digital, when it comes to controllers, refers to actual digits. 1 or 0, the button is pressed or it isn't, there is no in between. Whereas, analogue means there is a potential range of movement. It could be pressed a little bit or all the way and it acknowledges the difference between those two.
The more you know or something
I recall having one for a PS2 back then - it was particularly useful actually, because while I had no issues operating the DVD features with a controller - my parents struggled with it. A remote was a lot more intuitive for people who had no idea how to operate a games console but wanted to use the DVD player feature of the system. It's pretty much the only sensible use-case for the thing I can think of, but it is / was a valid one.
So the “Digital” and “Analog” features were not about the d-pad or analog stick, it was about the specific upgrades of the Dual Shock 2. So the DS2 had actual analog buttons that allowed for pressure sensitive action. The most common example; in MGS2, you can release the square button that aims your gun, and if you do it lightly, you will not fire a shot.
Now, if you tried this with a PSX Dual Shock controller plugged in, it’ll fire every time and you can’t put your weapon away without shooting (unless you quickly menu to unequip your gun, which is what you also have to do in the Twin Snakes on GameCube that uses the MGS2 engine without analog buttons on the GC controllers).
I know this may get buried in a lot of comments, but you can test some of those games that required the Dual Shock 2 with a PSX Dual Shock and you should get the same incompatible error.
This was a cool feature that was kind of under utilized or discussed about the DS2, and every generation Sony does something innovative with their controllers and people don’t give them enough credit.
Love the videos!
"this was also built for CDs, for music"
*shows atrocity exhibition
OH THIS BOI GOT TASTE
You are taking Remote Play to a whole new level.
I used to hide in another room with the PS2 DVD remote and press triangle when my brother was driving in GTA, then watch his confusion as I slowly give random inputs.
I have a hunch in what makes the remote compatible with a game or not. When I had a PS2, I commonly used a PSone branded PS1 dualshock controller. It worked with most games, but there were several that absolutely required a DS2 controller. So as long as it supports a PS1 controller, theoretically it should support the remote in some capacity
We really need someone to make an MGS Playthrough using the remote
YES ...tears will flow
"I did the only sane thing and through my entire PS2 collection"
So you DO know why we love you guys...
Speaking of DVD remotes, DVD "games" like Tomb Raider The Action Adventure and ports of fmv games like Tender Loving Care, Dragon's Lair and Maddog Mcree would make for an interesting video. Or at least to me who grew up playing these.
Also games that are bonuses with DVD movies. I kinda fondly remember some of those.
I remember when I was younger, I was really into games based on movies; so one day while I was going through the tutorial for Batman Begins, it said to press L3 to go into stealth mode. Now, as a child who could barely read and had no idea that the analog sticks could be used as buttons, I assumed there was no way for me to perform this action. That was until I got this remote and saw that it had a button labeled L3. Needless to say, anytime a game asked me to use the L3 button, I went looking for this remote.
I thought the announcement was a joke, but here we are!
As I recall, there was a larger remote made for PS4 in the early days. There's also a few different models of the PS3 one. The one I've got has a button that works with the PlayStation 3D Display, which as far as I'm aware is the smallest 3D TV ever made.
Dig that Clock Tower shirt tho. Sick fit, fam.
Yeah, I want one
@@SIDEKICKDUSTY Me too. Thought it might be a Redbubble thing but no such luck. Guess we'll never know :(
We need to know. Its not from the Yetee
I also would like to know where I can get a shirt like this.
Same
Ah simpler times, listening to cds through my ps2 and out of my mono 13inch Daewoo tv. Good times
I honestly cant wait until it devoles into "D'aiiiiehDuruk IssDurk!!!"
Dayruckmeederk
Eiudrrksmidrrk!
WARNING!!
A lil misunderstood was Committed at 11:46! The Remote Shown as an Xbox Remote isn't one!
there is a remote from a TV-Box From FREE carrier in France named "FreeBox V5" around 2010 if I remember well.
"John Romero's about to make you buy him a pizza"
Laughed out loud!
"Buying us as pizza"
That's an interesting way to do merch.
1:41 damn, uncle Derek got some sick taste in music tho 😳
Caught that too. Doesn't surprise me
I know kojima games are really cinematic
but playing them with a DvD remote is a whole new level
Would be interesting to try if the games that refused to work are also unplayable when using an original PS1 controller and the original DualShock
I'm pretty sure DVD technology was pretty new at the time of the PS2's release. The remote was probably there to be a more "familiar" option for those who purchased the PS2 to be their first DVD player and may have been confused or intimidated by the game controller. That's my assumption because otherwise it's just weird.
If I remember correctly it didn't come out until after the OG Xbox DVD remote. Its requirement on that system notwithstanding.
Next step: PS mouse with the remote for the ultimate gaming controller experience.
Derek somehow becoming even more likeable with his Atrocity Exhibition CD, unreal.
Danny Brown and Manos hands of fate. We're officially best friends now. Sorry.
I'm not sure *why* exactly I got this pretty early on in having my PS2.
I guess the hype of it being a DVD player made having a remote for that seem necessary.
I can recall using it a bit for watching DVD's [I only had a few but I know I played the crap out of 8 Mile for sure haha].
However, I think where it got the most use for me was playing FF7-9. It was really nice having a wireless controller for a casual game like that.
Uncle Derek confirmed for good music taste
I knew that ever since he reviwed Earthbound.
Derek, I remember using this remote to play FF Tactics because my mom's boyfriend took my controller and hid it (he's out of the picture now). It actually worked pretty well for that game, though.
My mom still uses my old PS3 remote for her TV since it was a universal remote.
Back when Sony gave a damn about consumers
@@rompevuevitos222 Eh, to be fair, the PS3 days were when Sony really got arrogant.
@@SuperPoopatron I wouldn't say that was the case
They didn't do paid online (unlike Microsoft) and the price of the console was fairly justifiable due to the specs and overall quality
The thing still sold like shit because both consoles where expensive and the PS3 was even more so, with a more limited library to boot
@@rompevuevitos222 Sold like shit initially but ended up outselling Xbox 360 by *just* a hair! But there's no denying Sony was arrogant back then, and it wasn't about the price. The real arrogance was that Sony just expected people to know how to work with the Cell processor without giving much documentation and deliberately designed the Cell to be difficult in hopes that developers would end up writing much custom code for the PS3 it would make their games difficult or impossible to port to another platform. Of course, Xbox 360 came to market first so developers coded for that console first, therefore PS3 was the console that continually got worse ports (all Bethesda games, Bayonetta, Grand Theft Auto IV, Red Dead Redemption, and many more) but also had amazing exclusives.
@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 did not know that, interesting
project diva F with the ps3 blu-ray remote is a surprisingly satisfying control scheme if you dont wanna shill out $600 for the official hori diva pad. you still need a ds3 for some of the inputs tho
Normal people: “How the fuck does that even work?!”
Software Engineers: “Well obviously it works like that, because...”
"it just works, don't worry about it"
In China, the Sony PS2 was officially sold as a DVD player for a short time.
Yoooo Manos the hands of fate!
So the digital vs analogue control thing is actually more to do with the two pressure sensitive face buttons added to the DualShock2 (cross and square I think?). Code Veronica won't play if you plug in a DualShock1 because it uses those button functions
D in D-pad stands for Directional pad, not digital.
Oh man, this one brings back memories! I've had both the PS2 and PS3 remotes, and my family used them pretty frequently. It was always more convenient to use the remotes than a controller because of the cord issue and being able to toggle captions easily.
I can't say I've ever thought of using the PS2 remote for a game, but I definitely remember using the PS3 remote in order to 100% LittleBigPlanet when I was 9. There were various areas in each level that needed multiple players, up to 4, but I only had 2 controllers... and the remote.
Long story short, if I remember correctly, my 3 year old brother and I were able to drag that third player around the stage and get it to do what it needed to do, as the lack of analog meant it couldn't walk around. Could still grab things and hold down buttons though!
I badly want playing with a dvd remote to become a new speedrun category.
I'm mad about this video for two reasons: I want those SMT games he's has, and as soon as I saw the remote I remembered I had one... but it was almost certainly pitched when I moved house because it used to belong to my Step-dad and he throws EVERYTHING away regardless of whether it works or not...
I was a QA on a budget release PS2 game's North American release. Pirates: Legend of the Black Buccaneer. It had already released in Europe, so we only did localization testing and some work to ensure it would pass North American Sony certification.
Some time after the game launched, I went back to the publisher for more work, and learned that, all this time, there was a bug in the game where the controls would not function if the DVD receiver was plugged in. It just made the game stop recognizing the controller in port 1. Apparently no one at any point, European QA, European certification, NA QA, or NA cert, tried the game with the remote receiver plugged in, much less tried to play the game with the remote itself.
As someone who’s owned dvd/blu ray remotes for the PS2, PS3, and PS4. The shoulder buttons on the controllers feel prone to getting tapped and fast forwarding or rewinding so the remote takes that away. Plus you can charge your controllers on the 3 and 4 while using the remote for movies. Also made it easier for the older people in my house to use as a DVD/blu ray player.
Derek realising how OP the PS2 remote was is one of my favourite things ever.
I honestly really do like these remotes for their intended function. Using a controller to control a movie feels strange and usually the triggers and bumpers are mapped to things, so if you brush up against it wrong or set it down wrong then hello next scene. Also doesn't help that Sony keeps on changing what buttons do what in each generation. Having things clearly labeled as their movie related function without having to bring up a big obtrusive onscreen menu to search for what you want to do is very nice.
I'm already stoked just starting this video.
I had this thing (and the OG xbox DVD playback controller) and not once did child me think "I'll play a game with this :)" but leave it to SSFF to tackle the question we all should have had.
having this guy as a childhood friend and going over to his house would've made the day go by so fast
"Any unauthorized conflict, dueling, fisticuffs, bone throwing or skitter drama will be investigated by the SSFF and may constitute a penalty if up to buying us as a pizza." - SSFF. 2021
I was in HS when the PS2 released; had a remote and never thought anything of it. Back then, it wasn't unusual for the PS2 to be your first DVD player, and when you're kicking back with a movie in the living room you don't want to have get up & walk across the room to grab the controller just to pause.
testing a bunch of PS2 games on a DVD remote to see how they work just because you can. i have never thought about how a video game would control on a DVD remote until this moment. this is why i love this channel.
Okay, that 360 controller is fascinating. I’d love to see a video on that.
5:16 If anyone’s wondering why fighting games love the digital input format, it’s because, by this point, arcade stick controllers were being made with joystick levers that were digital in nature, emulating or even directly copying the levers found on arcade machines. So the best way for your down, down-forward, forward+punch input to throw a fireball to read is on a digital interface, MUCH better than an analog stick rolling from a 180° to a 90° or 270° input.
I can't remember the last time I saw this much excitement in anyone's eyes lol. This could open up a whole new category of speed running, though maybe "speed" is being generous.
Can confirm - setup a PS2 with just the remote for watching DVDs for a neighbor years ago. Kid went off to college - the main DVD died - this got setup as a “temporary solution” that ended up being used for like 10 years. It might still be setup in their guest bedroom now tbh...
Silent Hill 3 + PS2 remote = Monk Challenge (no running)
Get on it, Derek!
I think I've seen something very similar if not the same as the Xbox 360 DVD controller connected to an in-flight entertainment system on a plane.
I’m most impressed that the PS2 DVD remote can control video editing software O.o
They intentionally made the dvd controls on PS3 and PS4 SUCK SO BAD in order to sell their newer remotes.
Uncle Derrik:I love weird controllers.
Me:The floodgates have open for me.
This is exactly the content I come here for. "Should you play games with the DVD remote and its horrendous input lag? No! Can you? Absolutely! Is it hilarious, silly, and amazing? Of course!"
This is insane, love it. That controller was a message from the sky telling you to never stop, the world is a fascinating place.
I did have a very personal reason to buy this remote: the ability to program titles. You see, back in the early days of TV shows being sold on DVD, a lot of DVDs did not have a play all option (Buffy the Vampire Slayer was notorious for this), so instead of having to go all the way back to the menu every time an episode ended, I could program my DVD to play the next episode immediately afterwards by making it go directly to the next episode.
1:41 I fr almost screamed when I saw one of my favorite gaming channels holding up a Danny Brown CD
Absolutely amazing
Man, I gotta buy that album on CD
This is my only PS2 remote right now, but my PS2 is dead so guess it's fine.
We used to play 4 players on one of the older WWF Smackdown games with one player using the remote.