Thanks, your videos are very entertaining. Been watching some after I first found the ones about those two developers that extracted milk out of rocks on the gbc and gba. Your videos are also legit funny, both you and the lady
Yeah, the main difference is that Nintendo sometimes struck gold with their wacky systems and accessories, so at least they had some precedent to keep doing crazy shit, whereas Sega almost never succeeded, but god bless em', kept trying anyway, right to the grave.
Honestly, Nintendo plays pretty safe all things considered. Not that it's bad or anything, but people overhype their supposed innovations way too much. A lot of said innovations were merely popularized by them, and sometimes didn't even live up to their full potential. They have some pretty neat unique ideas, but it's not nearly as often as people say.
If Death Standing were released in the DC's heyday you KNOW that BB would be a virtual pet you would have to carry around and take care of on your VMU.
I think the only reason Kojima didn't use the PocketStation for MGS1 was because it wasn't invented yet. Konami certainly weren't against using it (much to the chagrin of early Yu-Gi-Oh fans...)
The word "Chao" caused me and a friend to have a massive argument about it's pronunciation. He insisted it was "K.O" because it was just "chaos" without the S (like Chaos Emerald). We got ridiculously angry with each other 😄
@@MattiKoopa No not really, we are talking about a memory card with a 1 - 2 in color screen, that slots into a controller, with physical buttons, maybe 1GB of RAM, Micro SD card slot for storage, and some basic physical controls like 4 mini face buttons, along with a d-pad start/select, and a small rechargeable battery. I would not want anything that small as a phone, but would be cool as a modern style VMU for a game console.
@@blackravenX No the Wii U game pad could not work without the Wii U being on, and only worked within a few 100ft at best. we are talking about a little device we can pull out of the controller, say put in a bag, and play a mini game, so more like a mini game boy with downloadable content for say an RPG where you level up on the go, then get home, sync it with the console by sticking it in the main controller, and you are further ahead. not a Switch either because that's a much bigger device. Also maybe even a carry case you can even clip onto a bag.
I remember having my dreamcast in 2001/2002, and I signed up for a Dial-up ISP just so I could play Phantasy Star Online. But when I wasn't hunting, I was using the web browser! It was my first exposure to the internet as a whole, as I didn't have a computer at the time. One of the websites that I randomly found while browsing GameFaqs was a VMU Homebrew website, and I downloaded TONS of games- card games, Pac-man, racing games, pet simulators.. SO much. I used to take it to school with me and play it, raising my Chao on some days, playing Tetris on others. The VMU was incredible.
There is a way to expand the space of the VMU slightly via Homebrew. Some games may have issues, but you can get 44 more blocks! That's like 6 more Illbeed saves!!
If Sega ever makes a Dreamcast classic, we need a sticker on the box that says "The Official Console of Punching Weight." It'll let the people know exactly what they're in for.
I'm curious how they could handle vmu's for a Dreamcast classic, would they just recreate them,not bother, or just make it emulated off the console itself?
Ha! When you started talking about playing a game with just the VMU screen, I immediately thought: Virtua Tennis. Because I actually did that some times.
@James Brincefield I've been playing a lot of Jet Set Radio Future on the Xbox. I didn't realise what I was ordering and got a Japanese version. It's been a blast figuring it all out. I would of loved the Dreamcast as a kid, and I bet it wouldn't of died like my original Xbox did either.
for all you VMU mini-game enthusiasts out there, I'm pleased to inform that the PSP Power Stone Collection includes the VMU mini-games preserved authentically in their monochromatic pixel glory. They even include a cute little Game and Watch style handheld border around the screen.
The VMU is a little mysterious for me: I had a Dreamcast but inexplicably had a memory card with no vmu! Learning about it through vids like this tell me it might not be all it's cracked up to be, but I cant deny just how charmed I am by it (just like with everything dreamcast)
Having never had a Dreamcast when it was launched, and only getting one a few years back in a Goodwill find in it's original box, and with the keyboard in it's original box, I can say the Dreamcast is great, but flawed console, and I can now fully understand both why people to this day love it, and why it ultimately failed in it's time.
I always hope the VMU would return in newer systems, imagine making one this gen with new screens and rechargable batteries. I could see new games unlocking bonus features with minigames on a VMU that you play on the go. So much potential!
That's OK, because the PS1 memory card also only had 128KB of storage, so it kind of still works out, in a weird way. Both Sega and Sony insisted on saying that their cards offered "1Mb" of storage, hoping that everyone would confuse "megabit" with "megabyte" (which most of us did), even though the actual storage size didn't matter to consumers.
Hey, dude!!! I'm the developer of ElysianVMU, thanks for the shout-out! I've been super hard at work on ElysianVMU2 with a bunch of new features and stuff... and let me tell you, we found out even more crazy VMU secrets in the scene in the last few months. First of all, the thing gets overclocked to 6Mhz when it's plugged into the Dreamcast, so it can keep up with communications. It was only now discovered that this 6Mhz clock can be enabled IN STANDALONE GAME MODE, meaning we can now run games at like 10x the speed we used to be able to. Yes, batteries will die rapidly, but there are now mods for AAs and stuff that will take care of that. With the 6Mhz clock, active, and how powerful the VMU's instruction set is, I would expect CPU performance to be on-par with the original GameBoy! We also have a guy who is doing crazy stuff composing music for the little thing and recently discovered a semi undocumented sound mode where the single-tone VMU can generate dual-tones simultaneously. He's playing around with trying to make some crazy music using multiple overlapping tones. EDIT: Oh, a few other things... I was able to contact an old VMU developer rock star who has been missing from the scene for well over a decade... He agreed to release the source to Tiny3DEngine to me, which I've posted on GitHub, along with his BMovie encoder/decoder for playing full grayscale video on the device... So that's a little 3D engine and video playback we now have access to. Want to at least integrate with the BMovie encoder to let you encode videos and export them in ElysianVMU. You can follow the latest news for this kind of stuff on my twitter: @falco_girgis. Anyway, thanks for the awesome video. Subscribed!
There was one great use that wasn't discussed, so... NFL 2k1 had the ability to pick your plays on the VMU so that you could keep your plays completely private. It was awesome! Awesome video!
This comment is here to support SSFF for the algorithm Edit: i remember being fascinated by the VMU when i was younger. Also Vitrual On. I heard it (i think) You should cover it if you can
For me, the most interesting feature of the VMU is the ability to hook two together and use the VMU's controls to initiate file transfers! A feature which, a few years earlier, would have been mind-blowingly innovative. In the pre-internet era, imagine how cool it would have been to just carry around the VMU and trade things like characters or racing game time trial 'ghosts' with friends.
Just a little behind the Vita, the Dreamcast is my second favorite console of all time. All the stuff like VMUs and others made it so unique and special
Probably someone who was ticked off at his embarrassing "megabyte" flub. Unlike what he said in the video, there is nowhere close to a megabyte in the VMU, he meant to say megabit.
Listening to you guys research, write, and talk about the outer fringes of gaming is just my favourite thing. I hope you guys get to do everything you love, but you're so good at this. Thanks for everything you've made so far.
VMU has 1 megabit of memory which is 128 kb, like ps1 memory card. So, ps2 memory cards had 64 times more space for saves. Never had expirience with VMU games, because i never changed batteries inside :D
@@d3v1lsummoner Holy shit that's just like the Wii Fatal Frame games that let you avoid the stupid ghost hand by paying attention to the spinning disc.
I'm incredibly glad that you mentioned the homebrew scene and Guacasaurus Mex, specifically. He's got so many good homebrew games out there for the VMU.
My favorite thing about the VMU is how it beeps extremely loudly to let you know it loves you when you turn on your DC, but if you change the battery to stop that from happening you lose all your data.
Be nice if they remade these too. Makes the remaster incomplete. Wouldn't think it would be hard to recreate it but clearly they had a low budget for this when Shenmue deserves so much more.
I loved how in Sonic Shuffle, if each player had a VMU, you could keep the cards hidden on the screen so other players wouldn't know what you had. I believe NFL2K let you choose plays from it too. Such a cool, weird little thing.
Holy crap. I probably put hundreds of hours into Soul Calibur and never noticed the little character on the VMU screen. That's amazing. I think I just never looked at it past the initial logo on boot for any game. So this is all wild to me!
You figure they would have made the batteries rechargeable and charge when you put them in the controller... you know, just some ideas 20 years later lol
I think Sonic Shuffle uses the VMU a lot in it's game. You forgot to mention that Shenmue also uses the VMU when they teaches you move. The characters never mentions the button combinations (I guess as to not break the 4th wall?) but when you get the move right the VMU makes a sound and shows you the button combo for the move.
One of my favorite uses of the VMU is if you use it in Sonic Shuffle, the VMU screen shows you your hand of cards and no one else can see it. Makes the multiplayer a lot better.
Never change Derek. Your story about Sonic Adventure is exactly the same as mine, except I was 11. And it was oddly enough at Sears where they had the demo Dreamcast unit. Talk about some relics of the past. And honestly, all of the gripes about Sonic Adventure and it's sequel just add to their charm.
Derek the best thing about the vmu was that you could call plays from it in football games thus stopping your opponent on the couch beside you from knowing what you called.
Getting the hyperkin duke controller with that built in LCD, it makes me wish the VMU could be a new Xbox handheld to unlock in game bonuses through the mini games. I could easily see new games using it for say inventory or a gauge for racing or a map display. If new companies made it (and made it useful) they would win the next generation for me.
@DrTheKay Who shit in your cereal this morning dude holy crap. It's not like I said "LOL OMG FIRST" I was just surprised TH-cam notified me this early.
One game I felt needed a bit of a shoutout is Sonic Shuffle. This Mario Party-clone doesn't use dice, but rather it uses finite, numbered cards. When playing normally, your cards must be displayed on screen and every other player can see them. Therefore, it causes an unfair disadvantage because you can steal other player cards. However, with a VMU, you can have the cards displayed only on your controller, thus it keeps it a secret and lets the game have a more deeper level of fun and depth. It's not a huge revelation, but it's a game changer for what it did for Sonic Shuffle!
As a Dreamcast owner back at Christmas 2000, i was in LOVE with this console and the VMUs were amazing. I even had my own VMU before i had a dreamcast and was taking that VMU to my best buddy who already HAD his Dreamcast and we played some games together and when we played "Vigilante 8 2nd offense" i kept saving my progress since playing in multiplayer mode also added to the singleplayer experience :)
Can confirm, I had one of the VMUs and one of the non-VMUs. The best thing to do was to save all of your data onto the non-VMU because they could hold way more storage, and then use the VMU solely for the VMU minigames you could download.
The Dreamcast’s graphics blew me away at the time. I remember playing Syphon Filter 2 on PS1, and saying that graphics couldn’t ever get any better because they already looked exactly like real life. Then I played SA on Dreamcast, and my mind was blown.
They would've gone bankrupt before that. Outside of Japan, the Saturn was totally dead by early 1998. Nowadays most don't seem to realize that the DC didn't even sell that badly, Sony just pretty much destroyed the GC and Xbox in sales as well, but unlike Nintendo and MS, Sega had basically ran out of money by 2001.
I remember loving the VMU for sports games. You could use the VMU to select plays and nothing was shows on screen to tip off your buddy sitting on the other side of the couch. Good times!
The VMU on the playground was a fashion statement as well, I remember kids wearing them on chains. Same kids with neogeo pocket color systems. It was good times.
I’m your age, Derek, and I too had a similar reaction to Sonic Adventures graphics of “can’t get any better than this!” However that feeling was replaced one other time with the original Halo. That bump mapped grass! I’ve never really had that feeling since.
I remember playing Chao Adventure and Pinta's Quest on my Lunch break at work back in the day. Then come home and fire up the respective games and drop off the items I gathered. I also played the Soul Calibur mini game collection on it. Good times. I remember playing fan made Tetris game on the VMU.
I started collecting Dreamcast games back in 2015 and got Sonic Adventure 2 early into things. One of the first things I tried was dropping a chao into one of my VMU. It walked and talked for about five minutes, before asking "What is the meaning of life?" seconds before the batteries gave out and the VMU died.
Don't like to be THAT Guy, but the VMU (like the Playstation Memory Card). has only 128kb Memory or 1MBit. Sadly you can only access 100kb, 28kb are for the System.
With a homebrew like VMU tools you can unlock the reserved space to use, but there are some games which will not work with a VMU unlocked for more saves, like Metropolis Street Racer. I recommend having more than one VMU and keeping one of them unlocked.
When I got my VMU, I remember searching the net for games and other such stuff to do with it. Having Tetris and a few other games was so cool on such a small screen.
I love the beeps that happen for secrets on the VMU. The first time I heard it happen was playing Super Magnetic Neo, and I thought it was coolest thing ever.
1mb is 128KB aka 1 megabit megabyte is 1MB though PS1 and Dreamcast cards where both 1 megabit (128KB) though PS1 had more memory available for saves though could usually hold a lot less saves than Dreamcast due to the way the blocks work.
I’d argue that Sonic Adventure aged incredibly. Also never had to replace my VMU batteries once, while i never played games on it just having a screen on my controller related to the game was and is so cool.
I remember playing the Power Stone mini-games on my VMU. I wish I kept them, but I needed the space. If only Sega made a VMU that had more space for more mini-games.
I mean you joke about how amazing you thought Sonic Adventure looked now, but compared to games coming out right around the same time on competing consoles like Jet Force Gemini, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, Spyro 2, Resident Evil 3, and Donkey Kong 64 it really was pretty impressive. Maybe not in terms of sheer character detail because like... Soul Caliber existed, but having levels that big and that complex running at a reasonably stable 30 fps? That was unheard of at the time.
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This is episode FORTY of Punching Weight! I can't believe we've made 40 freaking episodes of this show! Thanks so much everyone!!
Thanks, your videos are very entertaining. Been watching some after I first found the ones about those two developers that extracted milk out of rocks on the gbc and gba. Your videos are also legit funny, both you and the lady
punching weight is my favorite series from your channel
Binged watched Punching Weight when I discovered it in 2017. It's a gem.
I really like your videos.
Congratulations on coming so far and let's hope your career will countinue this way because you deserved it!
Stop Skeletons From Fighting we go dad
People say Nintendo is the most innovative video game company, but no one can touch the wacky inventiveness of 90's Sega.
Yeah, the main difference is that Nintendo sometimes struck gold with their wacky systems and accessories, so at least they had some precedent to keep doing crazy shit, whereas Sega almost never succeeded, but god bless em', kept trying anyway, right to the grave.
And guess what company still makes consoles. Big oof
Honestly, Nintendo plays pretty safe all things considered.
Not that it's bad or anything, but people overhype their supposed innovations way too much. A lot of said innovations were merely popularized by them, and sometimes didn't even live up to their full potential.
They have some pretty neat unique ideas, but it's not nearly as often as people say.
this is so true that it made me cry
@arbereshe lol
If Death Standing were released in the DC's heyday you KNOW that BB would be a virtual pet you would have to carry around and take care of on your VMU.
Thy Name Is P! I unironically want a tomogotchi-style BB mini game now.
death stranding for dreamcast when?
I always wished they would do that for mags in PSO. That would've been sooooo cool.
I think the only reason Kojima didn't use the PocketStation for MGS1 was because it wasn't invented yet. Konami certainly weren't against using it (much to the chagrin of early Yu-Gi-Oh fans...)
Always good to know when you're playing Illbleed
I put this video on to make sure Derek meets his Illbleed quota.
*"IT'S SONIC ADVENTURE, NOW AVAILABLE AT KB TOYS!"*
Won't lie, that hurt me a little bit.
NOW AVAILABLE AT TOYS 'R US
oh wait...sorry
Right in the childhood.
@@socksfelloff I was gonna say something about Babbage's, but apparently they still live on through GameStop... so not all is lost!
@@Tenchigumi GameStop will be gone soon enough lol
Thought this was a Chris Chan reference
"Is this a good way to play Silent Scope on the Dreamcast? Absolutely not! But you CAN do it, which is good enough for me." I love this.
VMU: Beep. beep.
Derek: "stop beeping."
Also VMU: *BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-*
I always wondered why my old Dreamcast would scream at me every time I turned it on lol
AssaulteedOne they’re feisty consoles
That last *BEEEEEEE* was his VMU's last words
The word "Chao" caused me and a friend to have a massive argument about it's pronunciation. He insisted it was "K.O" because it was just "chaos" without the S (like Chaos Emerald). We got ridiculously angry with each other 😄
I still can't fully get behind the proper pronounciation and often read it as "K.O." before correcting myself.
@@apispraetorium3275 - Same here, just makes more logical sense...
Same here
I had a friend who pronounced it "cow."
Wasn't it pronounced in the game itself though?
Just imagine what you could do with a VMU style gadget with today's tech.
That would be cool, and with a battery that at least lasted a few hours before needing to be recharged.
So a smartphone?
@@MattiKoopa No not really, we are talking about a memory card with a 1 - 2 in color screen, that slots into a controller, with physical buttons, maybe 1GB of RAM, Micro SD card slot for storage, and some basic physical controls like 4 mini face buttons, along with a d-pad start/select, and a small rechargeable battery. I would not want anything that small as a phone, but would be cool as a modern style VMU for a game console.
So the Wii U?
@@blackravenX No the Wii U game pad could not work without the Wii U being on, and only worked within a few 100ft at best. we are talking about a little device we can pull out of the controller, say put in a bag, and play a mini game, so more like a mini game boy with downloadable content for say an RPG where you level up on the go, then get home, sync it with the console by sticking it in the main controller, and you are further ahead. not a Switch either because that's a much bigger device. Also maybe even a carry case you can even clip onto a bag.
"i love you"
"you can go away"
BLOCK 100
I remember having my dreamcast in 2001/2002, and I signed up for a Dial-up ISP just so I could play Phantasy Star Online. But when I wasn't hunting, I was using the web browser! It was my first exposure to the internet as a whole, as I didn't have a computer at the time. One of the websites that I randomly found while browsing GameFaqs was a VMU Homebrew website, and I downloaded TONS of games- card games, Pac-man, racing games, pet simulators.. SO much. I used to take it to school with me and play it, raising my Chao on some days, playing Tetris on others.
The VMU was incredible.
Derek's face when Seaman rejected him 🤣
You can go away.
fun fact: Seaman went on to become the TH-cam video promotion algorithm
@@starbound03 :(
@@noneofyourbusiness4616 I think a lot of people would prefer Seaman's AI being the algorithm rather than what is currently used.
@@plasmaoctopus1728 I wish Leonard Nimoy was still with us to voice the TH-cam algorithm.
Alternate title: How to Enjoy Your VMU with Enough Space for Your Illbleed Save!
Keep up the good work, guys!
There is a way to expand the space of the VMU slightly via Homebrew. Some games may have issues, but you can get 44 more blocks! That's like 6 more Illbeed saves!!
The VMU was so unique. It would’ve been really cool to see the evolution of it, but RIP Sega hardware
Took 15 years but it's the Switch
The wii u
Does a thing the Wii U wasn’t potable though
@@SuggestiveGaming not that part more the second screen aspect
Would have been cool if they had a second version that was like a Gameboy color
So you’re telling me that when the VMU is inserted into the controller it turns it into a Wii U Gamepad?
NINTENDO WHO?
SEGA in a nutshell. They have some forward-thinking ideas but introduce them way too early with the technology it needed.
"Godzilla game on the VMU"
*Matt McMuscles screaming from Montreal*
Man, zombie's revenge is one of those games I played as a kid and never really knew if it actually existed or it was just my imagination
Oh it existed, many hours of fun with friends
nope, all of you imagined it.
If Sega ever makes a Dreamcast classic, we need a sticker on the box that says "The Official Console of Punching Weight."
It'll let the people know exactly what they're in for.
I'm curious how they could handle vmu's for a Dreamcast classic, would they just recreate them,not bother, or just make it emulated off the console itself?
Mobile VMU companion app?
@@jordanmynes2638 yeah, probably.
Ha! When you started talking about playing a game with just the VMU screen, I immediately thought: Virtua Tennis. Because I actually did that some times.
The Dreamcast is the bet console ever. Nothing can change my mind and I have no bias whatsoever.
Maybe because I was overtired but this comment made me laugh really loud. Like worried I disturbed my neighbours loud
"No bias whatsoever."
*Sees name*
(X) Doubt
@James Brincefield I've been playing a lot of Jet Set Radio Future on the Xbox. I didn't realise what I was ordering and got a Japanese version. It's been a blast figuring it all out. I would of loved the Dreamcast as a kid, and I bet it wouldn't of died like my original Xbox did either.
for all you VMU mini-game enthusiasts out there, I'm pleased to inform that the PSP Power Stone Collection includes the VMU mini-games preserved authentically in their monochromatic pixel glory. They even include a cute little Game and Watch style handheld border around the screen.
It makes me really happy how you have so much fun with your videos.
The VMU is a little mysterious for me: I had a Dreamcast but inexplicably had a memory card with no vmu! Learning about it through vids like this tell me it might not be all it's cracked up to be, but I cant deny just how charmed I am by it (just like with everything dreamcast)
Having never had a Dreamcast when it was launched, and only getting one a few years back in a Goodwill find in it's original box, and with the keyboard in it's original box, I can say the Dreamcast is great, but flawed console, and I can now fully understand both why people to this day love it, and why it ultimately failed in it's time.
That memory card is probably a third party one with multiple banks
@@joechristo2Or the official Sega one released later on with no screen.
I cannot believe you did something about the Dreamcast VMU... This is why we love you
I used to download vmu homebrew games via the dreamcast's browser. This led to a 3 hour coach trip playing a fan made version of Outrun. No regrets.
I always hope the VMU would return in newer systems, imagine making one this gen with new screens and rechargable batteries. I could see new games unlocking bonus features with minigames on a VMU that you play on the go. So much potential!
A VMU only has 128k of memory. Only way you'd have a megabyte would be having 4 controllers plugged in with 2 VMUs in each controller.
That's OK, because the PS1 memory card also only had 128KB of storage, so it kind of still works out, in a weird way.
Both Sega and Sony insisted on saying that their cards offered "1Mb" of storage, hoping that everyone would confuse "megabit" with "megabyte" (which most of us did), even though the actual storage size didn't matter to consumers.
Yea I noticed that mistake as well. The PS2 is 64x the VMU size because the PS2 is using the proper Byte In it's marketing.
1:13 Ah yes, my favorite game: SoulCalibuR SOULCALIBUR
Hey, dude!!! I'm the developer of ElysianVMU, thanks for the shout-out!
I've been super hard at work on ElysianVMU2 with a bunch of new features and stuff... and let me tell you, we found out even more crazy VMU secrets in the scene in the last few months. First of all, the thing gets overclocked to 6Mhz when it's plugged into the Dreamcast, so it can keep up with communications. It was only now discovered that this 6Mhz clock can be enabled IN STANDALONE GAME MODE, meaning we can now run games at like 10x the speed we used to be able to. Yes, batteries will die rapidly, but there are now mods for AAs and stuff that will take care of that. With the 6Mhz clock, active, and how powerful the VMU's instruction set is, I would expect CPU performance to be on-par with the original GameBoy!
We also have a guy who is doing crazy stuff composing music for the little thing and recently discovered a semi undocumented sound mode where the single-tone VMU can generate dual-tones simultaneously. He's playing around with trying to make some crazy music using multiple overlapping tones.
EDIT: Oh, a few other things... I was able to contact an old VMU developer rock star who has been missing from the scene for well over a decade... He agreed to release the source to Tiny3DEngine to me, which I've posted on GitHub, along with his BMovie encoder/decoder for playing full grayscale video on the device... So that's a little 3D engine and video playback we now have access to. Want to at least integrate with the BMovie encoder to let you encode videos and export them in ElysianVMU.
You can follow the latest news for this kind of stuff on my twitter: @falco_girgis.
Anyway, thanks for the awesome video. Subscribed!
FYI, both the VMU and the PlayStation 1 memory cards have 1 megabit of memory. Not 1 megabyte.
I find the BEEEEEEEP oddly soothing. Reminds me of the days when Dreamcast was all new and amazing.
There was one great use that wasn't discussed, so...
NFL 2k1 had the ability to pick your plays on the VMU so that you could keep your plays completely private. It was awesome!
Awesome video!
This comment is here to support SSFF for the algorithm
Edit: i remember being fascinated by the VMU when i was younger.
Also Vitrual On. I heard it (i think) You should cover it if you can
That silent scope VMU feature is actually insane. Like, open your mouth wide and say "what???" out loud insane. I really can't believe they did that.
"Look At Chibi Ivy Swinging Her Chibi Heart Out."
Aw, so adorable! 😊😊😊
For me, the most interesting feature of the VMU is the ability to hook two together and use the VMU's controls to initiate file transfers! A feature which, a few years earlier, would have been mind-blowingly innovative. In the pre-internet era, imagine how cool it would have been to just carry around the VMU and trade things like characters or racing game time trial 'ghosts' with friends.
So basically, are you able to transfer game saves between two vmu's??
I need that Sonic T-shirt. Where can I buy?
Just a little behind the Vita, the Dreamcast is my second favorite console of all time. All the stuff like VMUs and others made it so unique and special
Damn bro, you got a hardcore hater on you. A dislike 18 seconds after the upload. For sure he watched it.
bots or it could be SSFF stealing satisfaction from wouldbe haters
I actually discovered that I disliked the video. Misstap, I guess.
I don’t think any of the time elements are exactly accurate.
Thankfully it doesn't matter thumbs up or down, YT registers it as engagement either way so it helps the video get noticed.
Probably someone who was ticked off at his embarrassing "megabyte" flub. Unlike what he said in the video, there is nowhere close to a megabyte in the VMU, he meant to say megabit.
Listening to you guys research, write, and talk about the outer fringes of gaming is just my favourite thing. I hope you guys get to do everything you love, but you're so good at this. Thanks for everything you've made so far.
VMU has 1 megabit of memory which is 128 kb, like ps1 memory card. So, ps2 memory cards had 64 times more space for saves. Never had expirience with VMU games, because i never changed batteries inside :D
"Now available at K.B. Toys". Man, I miss K.B. That was the "big" toy store in my town. Toys R' Us was a 40 minute drive.
that disc loading noise when a battle is about to happen in Skies lol
And then you immediately go into the menu to untrigger the loading to avoid random battles.
@@d3v1lsummoner Holy shit that's just like the Wii Fatal Frame games that let you avoid the stupid ghost hand by paying attention to the spinning disc.
Lol the best of times. Game cubes version didn't have it lol
ZRRRT ZRRRRRRT
*shatered glass whirlpool*
BUUUUUUUUUUUU BA BUUUUUU BUUUUU BUUUUU BE BAAAAAAA
*chorus of violins*
I'm incredibly glad that you mentioned the homebrew scene and Guacasaurus Mex, specifically. He's got so many good homebrew games out there for the VMU.
1:10 That is some Scott the woz editing and humor. I like it.
You can not un see this. There are multiple parts where i thought scott was talking
My favorite thing about the VMU is how it beeps extremely loudly to let you know it loves you when you turn on your DC, but if you change the battery to stop that from happening you lose all your data.
Shenmue had help for moves on the vmu, a thing that's missing on the remasters
Be nice if they remade these too. Makes the remaster incomplete.
Wouldn't think it would be hard to recreate it but clearly they had a low budget for this when Shenmue deserves so much more.
I loved how in Sonic Shuffle, if each player had a VMU, you could keep the cards hidden on the screen so other players wouldn't know what you had. I believe NFL2K let you choose plays from it too. Such a cool, weird little thing.
Holy crap. I probably put hundreds of hours into Soul Calibur and never noticed the little character on the VMU screen. That's amazing.
I think I just never looked at it past the initial logo on boot for any game. So this is all wild to me!
Nothing better than going on TH-cam and seeing an SSFF vid is up
You figure they would have made the batteries rechargeable and charge when you put them in the controller... you know, just some ideas 20 years later lol
I think Sonic Shuffle uses the VMU a lot in it's game.
You forgot to mention that Shenmue also uses the VMU when they teaches you move. The characters never mentions the button combinations (I guess as to not break the 4th wall?) but when you get the move right the VMU makes a sound and shows you the button combo for the move.
great vid :)
Cool video! I've always been curious about these little things, and getting such a detailed look at them is why I love Punching Weight so much! xxx
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One of my favorite uses of the VMU is if you use it in Sonic Shuffle, the VMU screen shows you your hand of cards and no one else can see it. Makes the multiplayer a lot better.
Did... Anyone catch the "hey I'm Derek, it's me Derek?"
This is honestly one of the best retro channels on the platform
Man, makes me wonder what you can do with a Mini-console with today's tech...
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Never change Derek. Your story about Sonic Adventure is exactly the same as mine, except I was 11. And it was oddly enough at Sears where they had the demo Dreamcast unit. Talk about some relics of the past. And honestly, all of the gripes about Sonic Adventure and it's sequel just add to their charm.
Sorry to be that guy, but the VMU and PS1 were only 128k in size.
Im so happy you brought up zombie revenge and its VMU mini game! that game always gets forgotten, but its one of my favorite games on the dreamcast
I'VE BEEN WAIT ING FOR THIS FOR EVER THANKS I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS
Ye I am super duper early. Really excited
Derek the best thing about the vmu was that you could call plays from it in football games thus stopping your opponent on the couch beside you from knowing what you called.
Hey, it’s me, Adam Sandler. I am a fan of SSFF.
When's Jack & Jill 2?
I'm Adam Sandler and this is my favourite store on the Citadel. ❤️
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Evan Holtz, While I appreciate your inquiry, I’m not at liberty to divulge that information, sorry.
Adam Osborne, if you’re Adam Sandler, then who am I? Please try watching my movie ‘Jill & Jack’.
Getting the hyperkin duke controller with that built in LCD, it makes me wish the VMU could be a new Xbox handheld to unlock in game bonuses through the mini games. I could easily see new games using it for say inventory or a gauge for racing or a map display. If new companies made it (and made it useful) they would win the next generation for me.
This is literally the earliest I've gotten here before.
hope you like it!
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@DrTheKay Who shit in your cereal this morning dude holy crap. It's not like I said "LOL OMG FIRST" I was just surprised TH-cam notified me this early.
One game I felt needed a bit of a shoutout is Sonic Shuffle. This Mario Party-clone doesn't use dice, but rather it uses finite, numbered cards. When playing normally, your cards must be displayed on screen and every other player can see them. Therefore, it causes an unfair disadvantage because you can steal other player cards.
However, with a VMU, you can have the cards displayed only on your controller, thus it keeps it a secret and lets the game have a more deeper level of fun and depth. It's not a huge revelation, but it's a game changer for what it did for Sonic Shuffle!
Everyone always calls it "Pinta's Quest," including you in this video, despite actually being called "Pinta Quest," as shown in this video.
As a Dreamcast owner back at Christmas 2000, i was in LOVE with this console and the VMUs were amazing. I even had my own VMU before i had a dreamcast and was taking that VMU to my best buddy who already HAD his Dreamcast and we played some games together and when we played "Vigilante 8 2nd offense" i kept saving my progress since playing in multiplayer mode also added to the singleplayer experience :)
Can confirm, I had one of the VMUs and one of the non-VMUs. The best thing to do was to save all of your data onto the non-VMU because they could hold way more storage, and then use the VMU solely for the VMU minigames you could download.
The Dreamcast’s graphics blew me away at the time. I remember playing Syphon Filter 2 on PS1, and saying that graphics couldn’t ever get any better because they already looked exactly like real life. Then I played SA on Dreamcast, and my mind was blown.
Could you imagine if SEGA Perfected the Dreamcast and waited until Sony and Nintendo released their next systems.
They would've gone bankrupt before that. Outside of Japan, the Saturn was totally dead by early 1998. Nowadays most don't seem to realize that the DC didn't even sell that badly, Sony just pretty much destroyed the GC and Xbox in sales as well, but unlike Nintendo and MS, Sega had basically ran out of money by 2001.
I remember loving the VMU for sports games. You could use the VMU to select plays and nothing was shows on screen to tip off your buddy sitting on the other side of the couch. Good times!
VMU:beep
Derek:Stop beeping
VMU:BEEEEEP!
The VMU on the playground was a fashion statement as well, I remember kids wearing them on chains. Same kids with neogeo pocket color systems. It was good times.
Yo im still just here for the Engagement TM
I’m your age, Derek, and I too had a similar reaction to Sonic Adventures graphics of “can’t get any better than this!” However that feeling was replaced one other time with the original Halo. That bump mapped grass! I’ve never really had that feeling since.
wait, has he always said "Hey, I'm Derek. It's me Derek" ?
I feel like it's a more recent thing? But I want to believe.
He only started saying that these past few videos.
But I love it.
I remember playing Chao Adventure and Pinta's Quest on my Lunch break at work back in the day. Then come home and fire up the respective games and drop off the items I gathered. I also played the Soul Calibur mini game collection on it. Good times.
I remember playing fan made Tetris game on the VMU.
Tiny Tetris
I thought I was gonna be early for this one :(
We ALL did....
I started collecting Dreamcast games back in 2015 and got Sonic Adventure 2 early into things. One of the first things I tried was dropping a chao into one of my VMU. It walked and talked for about five minutes, before asking "What is the meaning of life?" seconds before the batteries gave out and the VMU died.
Don't like to be THAT Guy, but the VMU (like the Playstation Memory Card). has only 128kb Memory or 1MBit. Sadly you can only access 100kb, 28kb are for the System.
With a homebrew like VMU tools you can unlock the reserved space to use, but there are some games which will not work with a VMU unlocked for more saves, like Metropolis Street Racer. I recommend having more than one VMU and keeping one of them unlocked.
@@lordeilluminati I tried this once, with mixed results on my Games. In my Opinion, its not really worth it.
Vmu tool by speud?
@@halo3odst yes
When I got my VMU, I remember searching the net for games and other such stuff to do with it. Having Tetris and a few other games was so cool on such a small screen.
The Dreamcast is amazing
There are three kinds of people; See-gah, Say-gah, and Seg-ah.
Best feature of the dreamcast before the modem!!!
8:47 Technically 54% of the VMU if you used a homebrew that enables 41 more blocks.
PLEASE TELL ME WHERE YOU GOT THE SHIRT
I must know as well
Seconded.
Third
The VMU was one of the coolest things about the Dreamcast
6:28 Stop VMUs From Beeping
I love the beeps that happen for secrets on the VMU. The first time I heard it happen was playing Super Magnetic Neo, and I thought it was coolest thing ever.
wasnt the ps1 memory card 128kb instead of 1mb？
You have that backwards, the VMU was 128kb.
1mb is 128KB aka 1 megabit megabyte is 1MB though PS1 and Dreamcast cards where both 1 megabit (128KB) though PS1 had more memory available for saves though could usually hold a lot less saves than Dreamcast due to the way the blocks work.
Great Video, never had a Dreamcast so it was neat learning all about the VMUs.
I'm so early I didnt get checked got uniform at the gate
I’d argue that Sonic Adventure aged incredibly. Also never had to replace my VMU batteries once, while i never played games on it just having a screen on my controller related to the game was and is so cool.
I was really excited for this video and it did not disappoint!
I remember playing the Power Stone mini-games on my VMU. I wish I kept them, but I needed the space. If only Sega made a VMU that had more space for more mini-games.
I mean you joke about how amazing you thought Sonic Adventure looked now, but compared to games coming out right around the same time on competing consoles like Jet Force Gemini, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, Spyro 2, Resident Evil 3, and Donkey Kong 64 it really was pretty impressive. Maybe not in terms of sheer character detail because like... Soul Caliber existed, but having levels that big and that complex running at a reasonably stable 30 fps? That was unheard of at the time.
I'm honestly surprised Illbleed didn't come up in the video sooner.
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