The N64 Controller has been FIXED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มี.ค. 2018
- The Nintendo 64's old and outdated controller design has finally been updated with a modern twist. Not only has the shape been improved, but this new thumbstick is significantly better.
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Some notes from reading the comments:
-Apparently TH-cam sub boxes were broken this morning. If you liked it, please show this video some love so that this doesn’t affect it’s momentum. It’s not a very searchable video so I was relying pretty heavily on you subscribers to want to watch it.
-I’ve been told Retro Fighters added the octagonal divots to the thumbstick based on user feedback. That’s very strange to me.
-Some people say this controller is made for fighting games. In that case, the octagonal divots would make sense, but some are claiming those are for platformers.
-People wanted me to play Smash with this controller. I did too. I thought I had it but apparently I’ve never owned a copy :(
-A bunch of people are trying to “educate” me on the different control schemes in Perfect Dark and Goldeneye. I know about them. They aren’t relevant for this video. But if you’d like to hear me talk about the best ones, here’s an old vid where I do th-cam.com/video/fMP4gz-fhf0/w-d-xo.html
I believe that’s it. Oh and of course there’s a lot of people who take offense to my opinion on the N64 in general. You’re allowed to like it. We can disagree and still love each other 🤗
I hope you'll get the thumbs up you were hoping for, because the world would far apart if it didn't
Making the N64 gate circular would be as jarring as making the Xbox One gates octagonal. Muscle memory is extremely important.
no link to buy this thing?
Dude, hori made the best controller for n64 in the n64 era. It's called Hori pad mini, so, isnt 22 year to have a good option for it =)
+The Wulff Den I just wanna say, some of the best games use the D pad.... a lot of this video is your personal opinion and honestly I dont agree with a lot of it. Don't make n64 videos if you hate that era.
If the joystick is wobbly it has probably seen a lot of Mario party.
Sweet_Sukeban or super smash bros 64 lol
After 15 years I broke the stick off my og blue controller. RIP childhood
The stick is wobbly and there's a hole burnt into the palm of my hand... yup Mario Party.
sonicdoesfrontflips I see you too bear the mark. Welcome brother.
Sweet_Sukeban lol for sure, I got blisters from that damn thing
Give me 22 years, I'll fix ANY of my mistakes
Under rated comment
Love your videos!
Thanks eel boy! :D
You took my breathe away.
I heard the Hori Mini was pretty good, but it they stopped making them before I even knew they existed.
"It loses its stiffness with age."
That's what she said?
Dat slick transition at 6:44 tho.
Joe Hogan Art ikr
He does it a lot. Very underrated. Seen only one other do it too.
He is good. He either does magic or have the camera perfectly sitting on the screen.
Smooth as fuck
That was good.
I honestly don't think the N64 controller is that bad. It isn't perfect, but it was good for the system it was designed for.
Agreed, I'v honestly never had a problem with it... I guess the only gripe anyone could ever have is that it's not twin stick.
Anton Nielsen was comfy controllers... But, the analogue stick was bad. I bought a new controller, went to a friend's place and we played Perfect Dark from Friday to Sunday almost nonstop. When I went home I noticed the analogue stick was already starting to show wear... 3 days play
People just like to complain based on looks really. The D-Pad placement on this is worthless because games don't use both the analog stick and D-Pad. It's either/or. The original configuration is way more comfortable with that in mind. But all these "new and improved" N64 controllers boast you can reach both. It just confirms they don't know what system and games they're designing the controller for.
I loved playing Cruisin' USA with only one hand. Best use of the N64 controller =)
Anton Nielsen me too I can play any game without problems
You need to get yourself a SCART adaptor my friend, best video quality out of a non-modded N64, cheap as chips and won't cause all the stretching.
That's for the Europeans
N64 doesnt support scart unless its rgb modded
@Gucci Crimson or just have it shipped from Europe…
I loved my N64. The controller was never an issue. It was two controllers in one, depending on the game you were playing you either had your hand by the analog stick, or you had your hand by the d-pad. The design was genius, Nintendo out did themselves with it. And then they perfected the controller with the GameCube controller. And in my personal opinion, nothing to this day, has beaten the GameCube controller.
Even though I agree that the GameCube controller is really good, don't you find it a bit too small?
TheUnholyOne that’s funny, because I always hated the GameCube controller as a kid and I guess I still do. My favorite controller is the switch now because you can play without holding it like a controller
Dat beard game doe
The N64 controller is one of those things that make me thing Nintendo was actively trolling people at some point.
nah, the worst controller of any system is the cd-i controller
The Atari 4800 controller is pretty up there with worst ones too, still quite not as bad as the cd-i.
Nope, Atari 5200. Those things literally don't work.
I think they use the same exact controller, the one with the horrendous dial buttons and a god awful joystick?
Wew, I'm retarded. I totally forgot the names of the atari consoles alltogether. I blame their naming scheme :D
SCORPION FIRE - is totally right. The Intellivision controller was horrendous.
But the question remains: Will it eat my palm playing the fishing minigame in Mario Party?
ClimateCTRL cast aways, the struggle
Defenetly not, the joystick is not made of plastic
Mmm painful childhood.
You do realize that retro fighters originally designed the controller with a circular gate. But the number one request by customers and fans was for an octagonal gate so they switched. This wasn't an arbitrary decision. People want the octagonal gate. It actually makes moving certain angles way way easier in platformers..which is what the N64 is known for...
Still the placement of the joystick it's awful
+Meta Knight having the joystick in the middle on the original controller isn't great. I'm not debating that. I'm debating the fact that it wasn't an oversight or a mistake on retro fighters end that they went with an octagonal gate instead of a circular one. People wanted the octagonal gate it was their number request after they released the original design.
+Meta Knight remember the N64 controller was designed with Super Mario 64 solely on the mind. The octagonal gate is there for a reason. In 3D platformers especially in that era, reach certain angles is much much easier with using the notches that the octagonal gate provides
I did NOT know this. I don’t see how this helps for anything other than fighting games or 2D games. 3D games read all degrees of movement. Unless I’m missing something?
I want to be clear though, I do agree that the original N64 controller is pretty trashy. I'm not defending the controller itself; just the need for an octagonal gate, and the fact that the original brawler 64 had a circular gate much like you were asking for. Now there are reasons the brawler 64 wouldnt need an octagonal gate: A. The stick is not as sensitive as an N64 stick. The N64 stick is one of the more sensitive sticks in video game history. When tested with an everdrive barely touching it gives you movement. So if you want to jump upper right, you want that upper right notch there so you can get there exactly with just a slight touch. I don't think it's something you'll notice as much playing casually but ask anyone that speedruns any of those platformers those notches come in handy. The Brawler 64 doesn't have as sensitive a stick although it's still very sensitive and works well. The second reason is the stick itself isn't thin like the n64s so it's a little easier to be precise without the notches. But still you can find it on update 3 on their kickstarter they caved due to backers demands for an octagonal gate.
Dont get me wrong, the GameCube controller is my favorite, but I do not like the dpad at all!
I honeslty don't even know why he was comparing this D-Pad to the gamecube one... the gamecube one was horrible... this one is more then functional.
I think Bob misspoke. I think he meant to say analog stick but said dpad instead.
Yeah he probably did. Comparing the analog stick would make way more sense.
I have really tiny hands so I’m fine with the GameCube one but it is extremely tiny
the d-pad is fine, you hardly need it for most of the games anyway.
You've clearly never used a Dreamcast fishing rod controller
Or the cdi controller
SteamEnder hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
I hear the Atari 5200 controller sucks balls.
no wuts that
What about the Pokémon let’s go pokeball?
I disagree completely on the divots; I actually feel like we've taken a step back in removing them. It's extremely rare that I ever want to move in a direction other than the 8 cardinal directions, and getting exactly on any of them is pretty much impossible. Some games account for this by automatically making you moving in the cardinal directions if you're within a certain range, but this makes movement feel awkward and imprecise. I would rather have to occasionally make the willful attempt to move out of the cardinal directions than have to constantly willfully attempt to stay on them. It's also worth noting, of course, that the original N64 stick had these divots as well; to remove the divots would be an unnecessary change that goes beyond the scope of ergonomic and build quality improvements.
But why be limited to one of those 8 cardinal directions at all when the N64 controller can register 360 degrees of movement?
The value in moving directly on one of the 8 cardinal directions is higher than the value in moving in any of the directions inbetween. It's more efficient to move straight forward towards an object than slightly up-left, and aiming perfectly straight forward without a divot takes focus. And it's not that you explicitly can't move in the directions inbetween; it just takes more effort to misalign the stick from the divots if you absolutely need to. This is assuming, of course, the controller has been properly designed and doesn't ever stop the stick from moving before reaching the point the N64 recognizes as maximum tilt. Full disclaimer: I haven't actually used the controller in the video, I'm more familiar with divots as done on the Gamecube and official N64 controllers.
My biggest issue with this is when I’m pressing a direction all the way, then want to change direction while still maintaining momentum. For example, if I’m running straight and wanna quickly change to running left. On an Xbox or PlayStation I spend a lot of time rolling the sticks around in this way. On this controller it rubs around and clicks and feels harsh. On an actual N64 controller the notches are less noticeable because they’re angled differently and the sensitivity doesn’t require you to press that hard. This controller feels more similarly to a GameCube controller, so if that’s what you’re thinking of then you have the right idea. Retro Fighters made it this way due to popular demand, so clearly people wanted it. It must make sense for fighting games, which is what this controller was originally designed for. I think it feels weird in some games that allow for full 360 degrees of movement.
I know what he means.
Not to long ago I got Sonic Adventure 2 Battle for XBone and it just felt so weird having to consciously keep the stick at 12'o'clock to move forward (with the XBones controller having no divots) and at high speeds I would harder time then usual keeping control or not overshooting a turn, when back then I had the game on GameCube it was not as conscious and a little more natural, and only when I was doing more precise platforming would I have to kinda focus on where the stick is tilted.
Maybe that's it though, maybe that's a relic of designing controllers with platforming titles in mind(?) personally, I wouldn't mind having them on my Xbox one controller for my modern games, might even like it.
BrodaciousBo I personally think not having those divots makes it more challenging and requires some skill. While having them feels like somewhat of a crutch and limiting factor to the full potential of the controller. If you think about it with 360° angle games it could limit movement timing and fluidity
Really loved the editing on this one- merging the main footage you recorded with your quick lil note was awesome. And hey! Great controller!
Love the lighting here. Might have to grab this controller! Always will have nostalgia for the original and its charmingly terrible design, though.
Everyone else: "Super mario brothers holy shit!"
Bob:"Look at this revolutionary controller"
"The joystick loses it's stiffness as it ages."
That's what she said?
"The better Goldeneye"
>Not Banjo-Tooie shootout multiplayer
This guy knows a good Squawck match
Disappointed
My TH-cam app isn’t showing the video on my subscription box. I had to come to your channel and look on your videos folder because not even your channel showed the new video. TH-cam FIX THIS
Ana Cárdenas maybe in 20 years Retro Fighters will fix this too
0:45 NO YOU DON'T. WHY DO YOU HOLD IT LIKE THAT.
Yeah.... you do?
Its first controller to have a thumbstick its easy to say its bad now for its time it was great
Swifter358 Playstation had a good first controler
The original PS1 controller was just a SNES controller with more ergonomic handles. The PS1 controller with analogue sticks didn't come out until later in the system's life.
TheTron08 shit the cintrollers about the same ps2 and up
@@catnumber1538, moron! Perfect example of someone who doesn't know shit about gaming during the mid 90's. Keep following the trend of other idiots! It clearly shows!
BS Slayer Lmao that's technically an opinion anyway. How can you factually argue whether its a good first controller or not?
The stick doesn't lose its stiffness with age, it loses it with use. All the mechanical parts are made of plastic. When they are grinding onto each other, they become smaller and create plastic residue (white dust). The most noticeable one is the bottom shell receptacle which when its ground down by the stick, gradually makes it sink down further and further, losing the tension of the spring at the top of the stick box and ultimately losing "stiffness". I've repaired some, I have my own technique, but there are lots of videos on youtube showing how to do it.
It loses stiffness with age...
True, very true... sadly
Is... is that Jesus?
Artie Knight YT Yes
Yes, and he is fucking pissed as hell
Amen
It's Keanu Reeves
Jesus hates the N64 controller
I love your videos so much, congrats on all the subs man, i found you from your Vita video and im so glad i subbed, i love this lighting dude
no one's mentioned it but dude sick edit to you showing your issue with the shoulder button and then back to the main video. Excellent.
I will stick to the old one. Can't get rid of Nostalgia.
I own a dozen real N64 controllers. I bought this controller, too. Nothing wrong with liking and using both.
Nintendo Nation yeah, but u can tho bc the n64 simply isn't that good
Some Jeep Guy except that you're playing an n64
notquiteordinary You don't like the N64, so that means that no one else is allowed to enjoy it? Got it. Thanks for your advice. I'll keep that in mind when I'm playing banjo kazooie this evening.
Some Jeep Guy did i say no one else could like it? It sucks, period. So does banjo kazooie. Like of all games to say you'll play, think about me, and masturbate to, thats the dumbest game to mention
New controller for old system.... Nice!!!
Jesse McKowen yeah except its not nice, it's lame, and honestly snes and gnc > n64 any and every day of the week
I want this for when they make an N64 classic
Retro fighters controller is still fucked up, the L bumper fuckes with the joystick
The divots act as a guide to precisely shift in the 8 directions, but it never stops you from going in between. Helpful when you need to press exactly in a certain direction. Like in fighting games for example.
I love the n64 controller !!!
You must be playing with 3 hands
I thought it was the coolest thing as a kid, especially with goldeneye the z button was like a trigger.
Why would someone care how they look holding a controller?
Vinny V it's not just how it looks , but how awkward it feels, the whole point of a controller is to feel as if it's made for your hands and have all options reasonably In reach =/
Well you must have tiny girly hands if it's uncomfortable. My hands aren't even that big and the controller feels fine.
N64 controller is my favourite bar none
I barely played my 64 but still have it, so I can tell you that the stick has a good amount of resistance and doesn't wobble in the slightest, so you've just been using worn out ones all this time. In fact, I can remember every game I played with it.
Zelda OoT: Finished.
Mario: Played to winter area.
Conker's BFD: Played about 3/4.
Shadowgate: Rented for a couple days.
Castlevania: Played about half.
Castlevania LoD: Barely played.
Yeah, that controller's pretty much as good as new.
I liked the video overall but the masterful editing into the note regarding the replacement form that you actually went for sold me into the channel bro.
Masterfully executed.
All this time, I've been holding the N64 controller all wrong... I held my grip on the left and stretched my thumb all the way to the thumbstick
I do the same it's not wrong it works the same way
Well except the part where you can't really reach the Z button that well... but if your playing a game with out much Z button use... sure.
Thanks for proving the stereotype that Asians are smart wrong
One of my close friends has always held his N64 controller that way. Haha. We'd always talk trash about it during Smash Bros./MK64/etc.
I hold it the same way and find I have more control of the analog stick due to proper leverage. I also have always hit the z-trigger with my right middle finger. This might explain why I dominate friends in mario kart and perfect dark
"The better GoldenEye, Perfect Dark"
YES, this is my number one retro game of all time. Had a story and characters much more interesting than GoldenEye. I want more than anything for the Xbox Live Arcade version (modern controls and easier to look at graphics AND online multiplayer) of the game to come to the Switch. I'd literally pay $60 for it, but that's just me. Sorry, I just feel so passionately for this game like no other. Who's with me, man, I need validation.
I busted apart an old n64 controller (and it did have to be broken to get apart) What I found was a ring with 4 contact points. These points pressed against brass contacts. What I discovered was the contact points were all worn down- some almost to being flush with the ring. And the inside of the controller was filled with grey plastic filings. The wearing was not because of abuse, just use. The controller was designed and built to wear down.
So I just binge watched 3 of your videos in a row. Love your channel, subscribed.
the jagged edges are a smash thing i believe that’s what the controller is made for
Actually, Smash was never a thought when Nintendo made the N64 controller. The controller was actually made (and was centered) around Mario 64.
That's true but the jagged edges became integral for certain melee techniques. So while the original N64 controller wasn't made with smash in mind, the jagged edges ended up being useful and therefore important to bring over to the Brawler 64 Gamepad controller.
But in melee the GameCube controller had edges and it is one of if not the best controller for what it has
fighting games in general and it also adds an ease of precision when against an edge between two other sides. (especially for the younger ones)
i prefer the jagged edges because it almost locks my thumb into a direction, without accidentally slipping up too far to the right or left.
I thought you meant the controller in the thumbnail has been fixed. *sigh*
well, that's true too
I loved that transition at 6:23 lol idk why but that made me sub XD
Seeing how the N64 was my very first game console, I am used to it so I already love it. Now my game library was limited because it belonged to a daycare at my old school so I never used any of the yellow buttons or the D-pad, BUT I did go back and discovered that they had upgraded to a PS2 and NONE of the kids wanted to play with the N64, so after 5 minutes of coaxing them to give it to me, I AT LAST have been re-united with my very first game console. Granted, they broke EVERY controller in the 2 years I was gone so I had to fix them, but hey, free console and controllers to work on for projects so I was happy
It didn't get fixed it was ok the way it was...
Strongly disagree with the Octagonal gate, it's there because the N64 controller had them, and the games were designed around them.
the N64 didn't have that....
I really like the lighting you use for this video. It’s much cooler than standard lighting. Very cinematic
Most new TVs still have Composite and composite can be used for RCA devices. Just depends on the TV sometimes the color code one of them as the yellow video signal.
Super Mario 64 is simply one.of the best games of all time. Same for Zelda OOT
best selling game of that time
No simply no . Fucking helllllllll no fucking no. Super mario world everything after that was shit
+Vasili Have you ever played anything after Super Mario World, or are you just blinded by your own nostalgia?
@@vasili1207 everything after that was bad us the most exaggerated statement ever the new Nintendo games are good Doom is pr good FF games were mostly or good, Megaman X was good, apart from X7, don't say everything is bad just because they don't feel the same
@@vasili1207 you also don't own a Switch and haven't seen Oddesey or Breath of The Wild
I prefer the n64 controller. Treat it right, the stick will never become wobbly, and you will always have the perfect deadzones associated with that stick. Think what you will, but it's one of the best controllers imo.
bascially, don't play Mario Party and you're good
Awesome how you transitioned the additional commentary!!!! well done as always Bob
The joystick gets wobbly because it's mechanical and is in an actual box. The joystick itself grinds the bottom of the box down. It's the bottom of the box that keeps the joystick firm. Grinding a hole into the bottom of the box creates space under the joystick, causing the once firm joystick to become loose and wobbly.
Whatttt.....the n64 was a awesome controller i dk what u talking about i still got mine and still good
Gripping it is easy..... it will probably just burn you'r thumb
If your original N64 stick is still good, you don't love the 64 because you haven't played much.
Wow. The fact that you can't correct ratio conversion on your display/device combo has left me thinking I shouldn't have listened to any of your other videos. Ugh.
Danny D. Yes we get it you have a hard on for a kid trying to rescue a kid, just do what I’m doing by never watching his videos again
regarding the analog-stick and L-button colliding: What game would have you use them at the same time? I can hardly remember a game that used the L-button to begin with, and even when it did you mainly use the d-pad then and not the analog-stick. I don't see it as a problem.
Mario 64 and Spyro the Dragon were some of the greatest 3D games of all time and that's why Spyro was remade and Mario 64 recently re released. It isn't just nostalgia.
Wow, I can't believe you don't like the N64 controller, shame on you.
It wasn't bad indeed. It just looked funny
Starfox ships but its a controller
Having to use the joystick at the bottom of the controller it's painful.
The analog stick sucks but I fixed mine by replacing it with a spare gamecube analog stick. It works perfectly fine.
Needless overreaction aside, the N64 controller is flawed but not still good.
Ok, I think that some n64 games are best game of all time material. I was born after the n64 was
Long gone and out of date so it’s not nostalgia. There’s just something simpler about the games that makes them more fun.
I finally took mine apart to fix the joystick. The plastic underside that manipulates the x/y axis sort of clamp onto the piece they move. After awhile the clamps wear out and that's why the joystick gets wobbly. Heat em with a lighter, and use a pair of pliers to bend em back into the right shape.......joysticks like new again
I always use the 1.2 controller setup on Golden eye (the left and center grips, strafe and move with the d pad, look around with the stick). Can you do something similar to this on this new controller?
People say MARIO 64 and OOT are the best games of all time because of what they achieved when they were released. Not how they compare to other, more modernised games. Also, comparing games such as these to modern games are like comparing a 1940’s car to a Bugatti. It’s an unfair comparison. Of course the latter will be better. It improved upon the older model’s pros and cons.
The_Official_MH5 If X improves on Y, is X not a better contender for Best of ______ even if Y was the progenitor?
Something better is not exclude by time, is better and thats it. You can categorize by year, decade, generation and whatever you want but the best of all times is always better imo
Super Mario 64 is one of the most fun video games of all time though, even compared to current games
I love these games but don't let nostalgia blind you. Best of all time is an over reaction. They really don't live up to that statement. They were great when they came out because there wasn't much to compare to. That don't give them the right to claim to be better than everything in the long run.
to be fair tho OOT has one of the best soundtracks ever
You can’t fix what’s not broken.
The n64 controller was worse thn broken
Use to play ken Griffey baseball,had to use the joystick, went through a few nin 64 controllers just because of the joystick.
Dude your lighting is fantastic.
You can use the brawler 64 with the mayflash USB adapter right?
The form of the N64 is still better (stated having played with other N64 controllers using modern designs). These videos never seem to contemplate how comfortable the controller is or how intuitive and expanding the Z-trigger placement is. You can see the issue in the GoldenEye and Perfect Dark parts of the video. The controller was built around that concept just as much as it was built around analog functionality. Moving the Z-trigger to a modern place on the controller just so you can have a useless D-pad in a place that makes more sense on other controllers misses the point and damages that control scheme.
Also, for what it's worth, I just picked my 20-year-old N64 controller with probably 1,000 game hours on it and and the analog stick is tighter (presumably by design) than my Switch Pro Controller with only a little bit of wobbliness that in the center that doesn't hurt gameplay at all. I'm sure modern controllers are more resistant to wear, but teenage me seemed to be able to not destroy it, so it can't be that bad and its reputation is probably a product of an internet narrative as actual hardware malfunction. Incidentally, I did suffer an analog stick failure on my first Gamecube controller.
Anyway, N64 controller forever. I'm sick of people putting it down.
Only idiots now days, complain about it! It's a trend that newer gamers, that never owned a N64 back in the day or didn't even grow up during that era, that complain about it! They just follow the trend that it was "an awful" controller and/or see 3 grips, and literally think, "how can someone hold this with only 2 hands?" Because they are fucking retarded or just followers! Or both!
Had an N64 during the 90s. The controller is ass and it's obvious why Nintendo (nor any other company) never went back to that controller design. It's uncomfortable, the analog stick isnt quality and the button placement is asinine.
You both niggas can't handle the truth and rely on your nostalgia. N64 was wack af.
Fixed? it's ruined! N64 controller was awesome!
The biggest problem is that if I play 007 or Perfect Dark with it, it’s going to be weird because I use my left hand on the d-pad to move and L to aim, my right hand on the joy-stick to aim, Z to fire, and A and B to open doors and switch weapons.
Used this at a buddy’s house. Still prefer the original. Especially for the Nintendo D-Pad for games like Tony Hawk series, PkMn Puzzle League, Hydro Thunder, MK Trilogy, MK4, KI Gold, Mischief Makers, etc. etc.
hey make a video about nintendo systems not being available in india
cuz i'm from india
Ronit Jalihal sane in china
They are available in India but they are more expensive by Rs.10000. This is due to the import tax that the government of India puts on entertainment products plus gst I guess
There's nothing wrong with the original it was just different and one of the first of it's kind. I never had an issue playing with it. They didn't fix anything, they literally just repainted Nintendo's current pro controller.
For the record you can easily adjust the picture on your widescreen TV to display 4:3 content correctly.
How would the retro fighters brawler 64 handle archaic controlled games? for example : if you were playing jet force gemini and its weird control situation?
This controller would suck with WWF No Mercy or any AKI Wrestling game 😐😐😐
B1ggRandall The d-pad on yours sucks too?
hmm?
B1ggRandall The d-pad on my Brawler64 gamepad isn't very good.
Ohh I used the original N64 pad
haha yeah. I tried playing No Mercy on my pc a while back with a 360 controller. Needless to say it was awkward to play af even after experimenting with several button layouts.
Cough cough horipad is the same thing cough cough
Brandon The Fan Guy *cough* *cough* Horipad is upwards of $100 USD, is uncomfortably small, has an extreme lack of analog stick resistance/tightness, and has painfully small Z-Triggers.
The analog stick on the Hori is WAY better than the Retro Fighter.
Sure, the buttons are a little small but it's not even that bad, compare it to the Switch Joycon or even the PS1/PS2 trigger buttons and there isnt much difference in size.
The QUALITY on the Hori is way superior as well. So yeah, it's a bit more expensive but you are purchasing quality (and some rarity as well).
If you want something better than the original N64 controller, Retro Fighter may do the job, but its far from the best N64 controller. That title easily goes to the Hori. - I have many N64 pads and 4 Hori minis. And the difference is obvious.
Added note, it's not even that small. I have a SNES and PS1/PS2 controller next to it and its right there in size with them (it's smaller than modern controllers or even the Dreamcast pad but thats fine)
The Hori pad is awful, I own one and it's extremely tiny.
I have 4. Its not much smaller than PS1/PS2 or the SNES pad. It may be smaller compared to some modern controllers but not even by that much. The controller is the best you can get for N64 as far as design and quality.
I guess I have big hands cause I can't stand the Hori pad. Is just way too uncomfortable to me.
For Goldeneye, I like using the D-pad with left hand and thumbstick on right. It makes it similar to modern dual thumbstick. This would also make trigger on the right hand.
The notches help feel absolute direction where it is needed. If you are on a balance beam and you need to walk straight (lots of N64 games are platformers) then its very helpful to know you are giving it 100% forward only.
Just get an emulator and play with an X-Box controller
Nooooo the N64 controller has more face buttons. Games like Mega Man 64 are weird
The Wulff Den the playstation version is better
Or use a keyboard and mouse
Just make sure to legally get the Roms from your games somehow
I use a fucking Super Nintendo Controller, I'm insane LOL
this controller rocks, stop talking shit
The amazon link takes me to a page for a mobile phone controller?
I liked the transition between editing and the actual video
I know a lot of people that says that the N64 controller is the best in history. So blind by nostalgia!
Play my N64 all the time and still find it to be my favorite controller.
Josh Lacey And thats amazing, but saying that is your favorite is not the same that the is the best among all
Carlos Castro or maybe they have their own fucking taste? I know you people called Castro usually have problems with free will. Too bad.
Danny D. Wow never said something like that. Anyone can like whatever they want
Danny D. Dude, you’re so edgy. You’re telling people in the comments to kill themselves and you’re insulting this guy over his name. How would you feel if someone looked at your profile picture and said “Oh he has an edgy emo haircut, he probably slits his wrists!” You’re being very toxic and you should probably go off the Internet for a while and cool off.
Cheers
It was a brilliant controller. Very comfortable and revolutionary. The worst controller ever is the PlayStation 2.... and 3...... and 4.
The analogue sticks are in the wrong place and isn’t natural. They literally just added them on underneath the PlayStation 1 controller without designing a new controller. And haven’t changed them since. Sony... the least innovative game company ever. Hugely successful, made/make great consoles, but zero innovation.
Don't fix what isn't broken. Playstation nailed it with analog stick symmetry.
Kauhmbou they really didn’t. They need to swap the analogue and D-pad positions. Just like on this controller. The analogue needs to be in the main place. The PlayStation still has the d pad in the main place and they have kept the analogue added on underneath
Dr D-PAD thats what an xboxer would say
true dat
Dualshock is the best really. Your just used to it in a certain position but that don't mean dualshock is bad. The symmetry is awesome and I find the displacement on other controllers just plain wierd. I hate when people state their opinion as fact. You of course don't play on one regularly. Btw I have to say the the ps4 is the most comfortable controller I've ever had. It's ergonomics are great and the symmetry allows both hands to be in a comfortable position. I seriously think they have no need to change is as that would change something iconic to their console. By far the best controller scheme to exist imo
So how is the accuracy with brawler playing perfect dark? I heard Its almost impossible to aim with..?
So does the Brawler 64 have full 360° precision or is it more like 8 direction?
give Trump 22 years
YohAquino2 He'll probably be dead in 22 years.
Ewww...no love in this controller.
Ryan Bonilla yes, its made of plastic not love, idiot
Ducky 😂🤣 why you sound so bitter? Hahahaha
Ryan Bonilla cause he's a 🦆
There are stick replacements inspired by the gamecube stick which are the perfect solution.
Consoles FPS had a unique experience with the middle hold, the z button was like holding a gun trigger.
Editing and lighting alone made me subscribe.
3:13 this footage of trying to do a long jump but just ground pounding makes me feel pain
What about the 3rd grip style, left/center? Works with most fps on the n64, option 1.2 in Golden Eye. D pad moves, stick looks. Mimics modern layout perfectly. Can't do that with this controller.
"Nobody used this play style"
Some games did, Kirby 64 for example.
And yes, the joysticks loosen with age, you can see why in the very shot you say that in. Do you see all that white powder inside of your joystick? That's from the plastic rubbing off over the years which is what makes it wobbly (the analog stick contains several moving plastic parts). You can replace the joysticks if you want to feel what a new one is like. They require no soldering to replace as the joystick component is completely modular.
I had a controller of almost identical pattern back in the 90s. Ill have to see if I have it anymore.
That was a cool update transition.
Why is john wick yelling so much
"It loses it's stiffness with age"
- The Wulff Den
curious on how it would work with ssb 64 or even brawl if they have a usb type a version
I've started building a retro collection, and got an N64 because I had such great memories about playing Mario 64 and Goldeneye. Once I got it set up... I couldn't believe how unusable the original controller felt. Did I just not know any better as a kid? Was I more adaptable back then? Either way, I just ordered one of these controllers and I'm curious how it will work out.
I took apart an n64 controller. Which had to be broken apart. And I found out why the stick got wobily. There are plastic nubs which press against metal contacts. And with normal use, the plastic nubs would wear down. The inside of my controller had some grey plastic dust in it. And you could see where the wear happened. I don't think Nintendo intentionally designed it to fail. I think they were just inexperienced. Future sticks were later changed because of it.
I backed this controller on Kickstarter months ago, I love the way it turned out! It gives new life to all of these old games.
i use the n64 to usb adapter on my arcage machine and it always pauses the game and unpasuse at random