Great video Bob! I was interested to see how this doodad worked. For me though, I’m waiting for HD remakes on the Switch. The price tag is just too high to justify the purchase in my book.
I missed out on gaming from the start as well I was able to go out back then hehe. But I feel I missed so much. Got a few old consoles but the burn my eyes. Same with game boy advanced games now. I really like the idea of this. You have a great face
I have both a Wii with component and a GameCube with the HDMI V3 by Zeldaxpro. Paid $102.50. I tested it by moving my Cube side to side and no loss of image, sound, and no system damage. For any of these HDMI solutions, I'd say if you don't mind spending it then get it. If you're not going to play a lot of the GameCube then maybe not worth the purchase. I don't regret the purchase since I saved up for it, but on my tv i do notice some jaggies in some games. So your experience may vary depending on your tv as well. These devices can only do so much since they don't have an upscaler.
thanks for telling me the difference between 480i and 480p i wondered why my frame rate dropped on most of my computer apps it auto set it to 1080i when i plugged it into my tv
Just bought myself my first gamecube with this adapter for only $100. Even four years after this video, this adapter is at least $150 and a GC console is around $50-$100 with controller and cables. Feel like I got a steal, though it does smell like smoke and is currently undergoing odor treatment... hopefully it will turn out otherwise I am going to have to sell it and buy another one...
The black bars were vibrating because you didn't enable progressive scan mode on the games. You showed us a cleaner 480i signal throughout the video, 5:09 says the signal is interlaced.
eBay’s GCPlug HDMI adapter for GameCube is $50 cheaper, and fits into any GameCube or Panasonic Q system without any problems. The downside is that GCVideo software is not built in, and the Remote Sync button does nothing and serves as a useless dummy button.
GCHD is running GCvideo which you can buy on much cheaper FPGA cards called the Pluto II if you are willing to do some soldering to get it installed. Same HD output and menu (plus you can solder controller input to the board so you don't have to use IR to change the GCvideo settings)
At that price you could get a GC compatible Wii and a HDMI adapter for the the Wii (they are awesome BTW) Or did everyone forget the Wii was GC HD (at least thats why I bought mine back in the day)
That’s not how progressive scan works it sends a hole image in one frame while interleaved is what you said sends a half image every frame. That’s why when you convert 480i to 480p through a converter the frame rate is lower idk why can some one tell me why I hear that all the time that the frame rate lowers.
What kind of television doesn’t have Standard definition input? Every TV I’ve ever owned has at least had a SCART input and I’ve never seen a TV without an RF port.
Once you set it up you can play game cube games on dolphin just like an original gamecube (u can use original gamecube controller with it.)but with just better graphics
What I usually did is her HD Wii component cables at use that and the games looked great for like 6 bucks on eBay. I bought one from Best buy years ago and one for 6 bucks from China on eBay. They both work the same. I recently bought a new 4k TV and it only has the red white and yellow plugs instead of all of them which sucks because my old flat insignia flat screen had all of them
I use my old Sony Trinitron for all my retro game systems hooked into surround sound digital for the best sound possible I go old school cause thats how it was when these systems came out which gives me more of a nostalgic feeling but everyone has there own thing and opinion this is just mine
For GC I settle with a Wii with component, for NES and PS2 (the only non-hd consoles I own instead of emulating) I just keep a nice CRT TV next to my HDTV for. And yes, I do have component cables for my PS2, but not enough games support widescreen/progressive scan, and I think in general PS2 games just look better on a CRT.
I was waiting for this device to be released, then i was devastated by the news that it doesn't support PAL (interlaced) games. So I'm waiting again till EON releases a PAL friendly version.
I just use my SNES RGB cable, colors look really good, the edges are much sharper and it's 4:3 and that cable coasted me 12€ ( it's still interlaced but I just don't see it on my tv maybe it just hides it ) The issue is that it only works on pal consoles but not a problem for me as I live in Europe :)
I got a cheap gamecube off Ebay and a couple zeldas and expected to only pay 110$ or so and I'd be good. Nope, after about 10 minutes I couldn't stand the blurry muddy screen. That's when the costs start to add up lmao
Mario sunshine definitely looks a lot better on the switch even though you hate it Ps i told you on your stream that I watch a lot of your old vids lol
I got a Hyperkin HDMI Adapter for the Gamecube/N64/SNES/Modded Top-loader NES and it's awful, it's a very very noisy signal. I've been really trying to get a good HDMI adaptor because my first one, a generic PS2 to HDMI converter, worked SO WELL. Taking the Component Signal, upscaling it well, no noise in the signal, doesn't require external power and even has a headphone jack. I'm just so disapointed with that adaptor, though... I also had just a standard RCA to HDMI adaptor and it was also bad, but fine when I used my Xbox on it... I think my GameCube is acting a little bit funny
Uh oh. You brought up Metal Jesus. Fanboys incoming to tell you it was his fault even though the maker of that adapter admitted the defect in their product and created a new version that fixes it.
EPS5000 Sorry from all of these videos it makes it seem like nobody had these things so I assumed you didn't have them. The only benefit that the GC Video (the open source project that made the HDMI adapter possible) has over the original component is the DAC is a tiny bit faster. It probably isn't noticeable though.
nerdyneedsalife Nintendo's mistake was selling the cable exclusively through their own online store. Not many people even knew it existed at the time, which resulted in Nintendo discontinuing the cable due to slow sales. If Nintendo had made the cable available at other retailer, it would have sold better and they would have produced more of them.
My TV has a built in aspect ration changer thingy (it can change from 4:3, 16:9, Original[whatever it was originally], ect.) so I can prob just change the ratio. I don't really care about picture quality that much anyway, so the adapter route is the one I'm taking If I had anything other than a ps4 lol
But afaik the original Nintendo ones (or third party ones based on the original ones) work better, having more defined edges/pixels and more accurate colour. Though that's just hearsay, as I've been only looking into it and haven't bought anything of it, yet. That's also the reason, why this video got me interested.
Rgb scart for Gamecube can only fo 480i If your using a pvm or a crt that has scart or rgb support then itl look great but 480i on a hd tv looks terrible and 480p with a pvm that supports component looks stunning
Fabian Lopez While the Framemeister excels at 240p/288p, it doesn't do well with 480p/576p. Besides, you would need the component YPbPr cable to use it anyway.
AlexLUVzFire I know paying $150 for an adapter is ridiculous. You can get a Wii, a GameCube controller, and a couple of GameCube games for less than $150
Super Andrew 64 Super Andrew 64 yeah dude way too much especially since all I spent was 10 bucks on some new monster component cables off eBay. Also I didn't like how Bob mentioned that there's a bit of volume loss with this adapter. Not a big deal for him but you gotta wonder how it truly sounds on person. Besides the 480p output some games had great Dolby surround output. Wonder if the volume problem messes with the quality of the audio.
Seshio You don’t have to download a GC emulator on a hacked Wii, the Wii is backwards compatible with GC. That might technically be emulation, I’m not sure, but you don’t have to download a separate one.
"This ist The cleanest fotage of melee you will ever See!"
TH-cam switches to 120p
Or just use an emulator at 4k
144p
Yup
*Uses an emulator on 1080p with the highest anti aliasing setting, had textures, and widescreen patch plus gamecube controllers*
Sammy Cochrane TH-cam Emulator? Where?
Or just get in a real fight in the street now that's melee hd
Touché
Strontiummuffin Two shay
This reminds me of the time Bob beat AJ in Smash
I tune in to learn about GameCube cables and get Bob AND Dan?
"this is the cleanest footage of melee you will ever see!"
Me with an Mclassic: "are you sure about that?"
Weird.... I sneezed and tapped on this video by mistake.
FanatixFour r/oopsdidntmeanto
I have a bit of a theory here: Fanatix and Wulff are brothers.
FanatixFour Now thats using your head
Great video Bob! I was interested to see how this doodad worked. For me though, I’m waiting for HD remakes on the Switch. The price tag is just too high to justify the purchase in my book.
It's an option for a very small minority of gamers. Me? I'll use my Wii via Component - which is fairly inexpensive - and the image is nice and clean.
I missed out on gaming from the start as well I was able to go out back then hehe. But I feel I missed so much. Got a few old consoles but the burn my eyes. Same with game boy advanced games now. I really like the idea of this.
You have a great face
Wait, you were at TooManyGames? D: I could've met you...
I hope this becomes popular in competitive smash tournaments and streams
Alex Franco Correct me if I'm wrong, but would this eliminate the need for Melee players to hunt down and search for old CRTV's?
Gavin D wut
Gavin D no, because the input lag is why we need crts. Not because of how the game looks.
Socaran Ectien 7:15 there's our answer
LCDs will never have the response time of a CRT, this is why this will never work in a tournament setting.
I bought a cheap Gamecube RGB Scart cable for £15 .. Games look amazing crystal clear and razor sharp.
I have both a Wii with component and a GameCube with the HDMI V3 by Zeldaxpro. Paid $102.50. I tested it by moving my Cube side to side and no loss of image, sound, and no system damage.
For any of these HDMI solutions, I'd say if you don't mind spending it then get it. If you're not going to play a lot of the GameCube then maybe not worth the purchase.
I don't regret the purchase since I saved up for it, but on my tv i do notice some jaggies in some games. So your experience may vary depending on your tv as well. These devices can only do so much since they don't have an upscaler.
0:06
i have used the same tv for 12 years so yes
thanks for telling me the difference between 480i and 480p i wondered why my frame rate dropped on most of my computer apps it auto set it to 1080i when i plugged it into my tv
8:19 HOO MAN DID THAT MAKE ME JUMP OR WHAT!!
Just bought myself my first gamecube with this adapter for only $100. Even four years after this video, this adapter is at least $150 and a GC console is around $50-$100 with controller and cables. Feel like I got a steal, though it does smell like smoke and is currently undergoing odor treatment... hopefully it will turn out otherwise I am going to have to sell it and buy another one...
And then he proceeded to get sponsored by EON, in a future video
Carby is better imo since its the same image quality but half the price and also has a better metal connector. Also the Carby includes a remote.
Subscribed and liked JUST cause of this! huge GameCube lover from Greece here! keep up the good work, mate!
This is the best image you will ever get..
*raises hand and wants to talk about Dolphin*
.. Out of a Nintendo GameCube.
*slowly lowers hand*
The black bars were vibrating because you didn't enable progressive scan mode on the games. You showed us a cleaner 480i signal throughout the video, 5:09 says the signal is interlaced.
I have my original component cables
In order to stop the flickering on the top and bottom of the screen, need to enable progressive scan mode by holding b whenever you boot up the game
But can it play Melee?
eBay’s GCPlug HDMI adapter for GameCube is $50 cheaper, and fits into any GameCube or Panasonic Q system without any problems. The downside is that GCVideo software is not built in, and the Remote Sync button does nothing and serves as a useless dummy button.
*insert "can it run crisis" joke here*
Hey great video. Put the thing you’re reading off of behind the camera though, it looks like you’re talking to someone off camera.
GCHD is running GCvideo which you can buy on much cheaper FPGA cards called the Pluto II if you are willing to do some soldering to get it installed. Same HD output and menu (plus you can solder controller input to the board so you don't have to use IR to change the GCvideo settings)
At that price you could get a GC compatible Wii and a HDMI adapter for the the Wii (they are awesome BTW)
Or did everyone forget the Wii was GC HD (at least thats why I bought mine back in the day)
Sunshine > 64 fight me!
I tend to avoid physical altercations with insane people, and crack heads. You have to be one of the two to hold this opinion.
Collin McRae true
M64 is overrated trash. Galaxy 2 or Odyssey were the best 3D Mario games.
Nikki Seven what’s wrong with galaxy 1?
SmashyPlays Nothing, but Galaxy 2 is the better game overall.
I did not know you uploaded
Hey it's Willy Wonka!
That’s not how progressive scan works it sends a hole image in one frame while interleaved is what you said sends a half image every frame. That’s why when you convert 480i to 480p through a converter the frame rate is lower idk why can some one tell me why I hear that all the time that the frame rate lowers.
That's kind of a dumb question to ask. All the TV's in my house besides the living room tv have AV support. Not everything has to 4k UHD capable.
Loved the Gamecube, still play it sometimes. Very underrated console.
Simple soloution for this. Use a PC and play it in native 4K. It also works for Wii games. And Wii U games.
The correct "its" you want is "its". "It's" means "it is"
god damn it
Did grammar Naziing actually work?!? Praise fucking Talos!
What kind of television doesn’t have Standard definition input? Every TV I’ve ever owned has at least had a SCART input and I’ve never seen a TV without an RF port.
Once you set it up you can play game cube games on dolphin just like an original gamecube (u can use original gamecube controller with it.)but with just better graphics
Thank you I love your channel I think you're doing an incredible job and I love your delivery thank you so much for all the hard work that you do
Yes I have a standard definition tv kept one around for retro consoles. A nice Sony Trinitron 32 inch widescreen. It is Heavy as hell to move though.
What I usually did is her HD Wii component cables at use that and the games looked great for like 6 bucks on eBay. I bought one from Best buy years ago and one for 6 bucks from China on eBay. They both work the same. I recently bought a new 4k TV and it only has the red white and yellow plugs instead of all of them which sucks because my old flat insignia flat screen had all of them
Why doesn't the word "sure" have an H in it?
cuz englash.
Sugar
The microphone company Shure does.
Shirley they didn't think it needed it.
I use my old Sony Trinitron for all my retro game systems hooked into surround sound digital for the best sound possible I go old school cause thats how it was when these systems came out which gives me more of a nostalgic feeling but everyone has there own thing and opinion this is just mine
Welp. Time to buy a Gamecube with both video ports. :0
To me, more progress was made from N64 to Gamecube than any other generational leap. (Aside from SNES to N64, but that's a different story)
For GC I settle with a Wii with component, for NES and PS2 (the only non-hd consoles I own instead of emulating) I just keep a nice CRT TV next to my HDTV for. And yes, I do have component cables for my PS2, but not enough games support widescreen/progressive scan, and I think in general PS2 games just look better on a CRT.
GameCube/Xbox/ps2 is my fav gen also. Best games, ever!!
The video port is used for audio too
I was waiting for this device to be released, then i was devastated by the news that it doesn't support PAL (interlaced) games. So I'm waiting again till EON releases a PAL friendly version.
One word. Dolphin.
Interlace has vertical and horizontal lines.
This is cool and something I need...
Too bad this is also too expensive.
$150-$300
Also I had a Wii and played Wind Waker on it and noticed no difference between playing it on Gamecube.
You can soft mod and unlock framerate, FOV, and change resolutions too.
Wii with GC backwards compatibility using RGB cable it is. :-P
I just use my SNES RGB cable, colors look really good, the edges are much sharper and it's 4:3 and that cable coasted me 12€ ( it's still interlaced but I just don't see it on my tv maybe it just hides it )
The issue is that it only works on pal consoles but not a problem for me as I live in Europe :)
CRT. These games deserve to be played the way they were meant to.
Just here to say I love Bob
I would certainly like to use a physical setup for my GameCube games
But I wanna play Path of Radiance and god I am NOT willing to pay that much money
I want something like this for my N64. Guess I'll have to shell out a good chunk for a ultra hdmi soon...
Gamecube was the best to this day!
kaico have now realsed gamecube component leads
We got the better Zelda too but it sure as hell wasn't windwaker! TWILIGHT. PRINCESS.
MGS Twin snakes
Inb4 "Actually you can use the dolphin emulator for the best quality"
YOURE TOO LATE CAUSE ITS IN THE VIDEO
RIP
It really is though. 😂
Pwnt, damn son, you got REVERSED TROLLED! AWWWWW YEEEEEEAAAAA!
Freaking 1337 h4x0R...
I got a cheap gamecube off Ebay and a couple zeldas and expected to only pay 110$ or so and I'd be good. Nope, after about 10 minutes I couldn't stand the blurry muddy screen. That's when the costs start to add up lmao
Mario sunshine definitely looks a lot better on the switch even though you hate it
Ps i told you on your stream that I watch a lot of your old vids lol
laughs in dolphin
0:38 Did you force wide-screen and force highest quality using swiss?
Did they stop selling it? it only have one on the amazon link and its a used one for 250$
I got a Hyperkin HDMI Adapter for the Gamecube/N64/SNES/Modded Top-loader NES and it's awful, it's a very very noisy signal. I've been really trying to get a good HDMI adaptor because my first one, a generic PS2 to HDMI converter, worked SO WELL. Taking the Component Signal, upscaling it well, no noise in the signal, doesn't require external power and even has a headphone jack. I'm just so disapointed with that adaptor, though... I also had just a standard RCA to HDMI adaptor and it was also bad, but fine when I used my Xbox on it... I think my GameCube is acting a little bit funny
Uh oh. You brought up Metal Jesus. Fanboys incoming to tell you it was his fault even though the maker of that adapter admitted the defect in their product and created a new version that fixes it.
You get the same image quality at a 1/5 of the price on a Wii with the hyperkin HDMI cable.
wait, modern Tvs ditched RCA? Why? and I think I'll just stick to a CRT or older flat screens with RCA lol
What one sets your video to best quality for a 24” monitor?
Maybe one of these days if this adapter ever gets cheaper, I’ll try it. In the meantime, I use component cables.
The GameCube component cables or expensive though. Unless you were referring to composite or a Wii with component cables.
nerdyneedsalife Back in the day, the component cable for GameCube wasn't *that* expensive. It's way more expensive now.
EPS5000 Sorry from all of these videos it makes it seem like nobody had these things so I assumed you didn't have them. The only benefit that the GC Video (the open source project that made the HDMI adapter possible) has over the original component is the DAC is a tiny bit faster. It probably isn't noticeable though.
nerdyneedsalife Nintendo's mistake was selling the cable exclusively through their own online store. Not many people even knew it existed at the time, which resulted in Nintendo discontinuing the cable due to slow sales. If Nintendo had made the cable available at other retailer, it would have sold better and they would have produced more of them.
RIP hair 💔
I'm picking this up soon.
Do gamecube games look fine through wii to HDMI converters?
Does the wavebird controller work it's own IR stuff as a remote for it?
Whoa u got a haircut
1080p?
Sooo, a $150 Eon huh. No sir I don’t think I have any use for an EON. I tell you what though....do you have any rubber walrus protectors?
I lol'd
So is this better than using a wii with component hd cable
Does the expensive cable effect the gba adapter
My TV has a built in aspect ration changer thingy (it can change from 4:3, 16:9, Original[whatever it was originally], ect.) so I can prob just change the ratio. I don't really care about picture quality that much anyway, so the adapter route is the one I'm taking
If I had anything other than a ps4 lol
why not GCHD vs GCVideo Plug-n-Play 3.0?
But what about dolphin emulator lol it has up to 5K UPSCALING
Thumbs up for the Metal Jesus shout out.
RGB cable (~50$, compatible with SNES, N64 and Cube) + Framemeister (~300-350$)? More expensive, but not only for the Cube.
Krzysztof Chmara You can find way cheaper RGB cables. I have one for like 10 dollars and works great.
But afaik the original Nintendo ones (or third party ones based on the original ones) work better, having more defined edges/pixels and more accurate colour.
Though that's just hearsay, as I've been only looking into it and haven't bought anything of it, yet. That's also the reason, why this video got me interested.
Scart RGB is only supported on PAL GameCubes. The US/JP GameCubes only support S-Video.
Krzysztof Chmara You can’t even use them with NTSC GameCubes
Rgb scart for Gamecube can only fo 480i If your using a pvm or a crt that has scart or rgb support then itl look great but 480i on a hd tv looks terrible and 480p with a pvm that supports component looks stunning
I wanna see metal gear glitch in the system a lot of lag good game a lot of people may not know about it good shooter and good Humor
Why dont you get the xrgbmini framemister or ossc and use rgb on retro consoles since that s the cleanest image available and used for those consoles.
Fabian Lopez
While the Framemeister excels at 240p/288p, it doesn't do well with 480p/576p. Besides, you would need the component YPbPr cable to use it anyway.
Carl Siemens i mean he could use the HDMI ports on the framemister and connect it to his monitor.
Fabian Lopez
Oh, I thought you were suggesting it as an alternative to gcvideo.
You're a gem
Get a Wii and component cables
Super Andrew 64 finally did this. Much cheaper alternative.
AlexLUVzFire I know paying $150 for an adapter is ridiculous. You can get a Wii, a GameCube controller, and a couple of GameCube games for less than $150
Hack the Wii and download a GameCube emulator and buy a 32 gb SD card download games and it's waaaaaaaay cheaper
Super Andrew 64 Super Andrew 64 yeah dude way too much especially since all I spent was 10 bucks on some new monster component cables off eBay. Also I didn't like how Bob mentioned that there's a bit of volume loss with this adapter. Not a big deal for him but you gotta wonder how it truly sounds on person.
Besides the 480p output some games had great Dolby surround output. Wonder if the volume problem messes with the quality of the audio.
Seshio You don’t have to download a GC emulator on a hacked Wii, the Wii is backwards compatible with GC. That might technically be emulation, I’m not sure, but you don’t have to download a separate one.
Is it me or did he get a haircut?
Styn Vercauteren Haircut
Not enough
8:18 scared me
WHO POSTED FIRST?
REREZ OR BOB WULFF???
I use the component cables with a frame meister
Dreamcast.... Hanzo box Bob xD