Before & After: Is a Bone Stock Toyota Land Cruiser Any GOOD in the Dirt? | TFLpro S.1 EP. 1
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- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) In this first episode of the Toyota Land Cruiser TFL Pro video series we go off-road to see just how good (or not) it is in the dirt. Is the ultimate overland rig dirt worthy? Find out as we put this 200 Series Toyota Land Cruiser to the test.
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LandCruiser “based on a Tundra” lol. You guy don’t know much about LandCruisers...
The 200 series basically is, there are different series if you didnt know
gogeta1001000 here we go, another one. The 200 series is not “based” on a Tundra. The Tundra shares some front suspension geometry, and in the USA and UAE, the 5.7ltr Gas V8, and the gearbox. transfer case,front hubs, front axles, rear suspension (complete), frame, interior etc etc contain no shared parts. Toyota has been evolving the LandCruiser since the 1950s. It was not “ based” on a pickup.
Nope. Tundra and Sequoia shares the frame. Nothing is shared by the LC
@@spearo83 that is the reason I put "basically" lol. You gave the detailed technical answer.
John Bradley This is not true. The tundra and sequoia, well similar are pretty different underneath. look at the rear suspension design for reference. LC and tundra do actually share a lot. Engine and trans to start, and much of the undercarriage is pretty similar.
You guys must know nothing about Toyota 4x4's. The LC is based off of nothing but itself and one of the best vehicle heritages in the world.
LC200 isnt based on the tundra, its based on the LC200
gullf1sk More dumb shit that Roman says.
He said "built on" as in the same chassis
You don't know what a chassis is do you? Vehicles are built on a chassis and the Tundra and LC200 for this gen shared the same chassis.. I remember having to ask the differences when buying an LC.. Tundra used coilovers and LC used leef etc etc.. Every major company will share a chassis across their truck and SUV platforms and only spend R&D money to develop a new chassis if absolutely needed.. It saves money.. My father was Exec VP for Mitsubishi Motors Corp Japan, so I learned a lot about thus stuff in my youth
@@lunamaria1048 I'd like to see a credible source that confirms that the LC200 and Tundra is built on the same chassis
Lunamaria I believe you think you know more than you actually know. First off, suspension is not chassis. Second, the Tundra and the Land Cruiser are indeed on completely different chassis. The Tundra was designed in California, much later than the LC was designed in Japan and while they do both have leaf springs in the rear, they are not at all the same leaf springs. However, the Tundra, even though it used coil springs, is on the same chassis as the Tundra and it was derived from it.
They’re not built on the Tundra at all. And don’t butcher it for a snorkel. Seriously.
Mike Hansen they are built on the tundra chassis.
n g the sequoia is. The 200 is built on the the 200 chassis.
Yeah, just because one TRD has a snorkel doesn't mean this one has to. You have a choice here of how to "TRD" it. Please don't snorkel. Especially if it's not really even a snorkel but just for cleaner air. Please.
@@ng-dq6pd No.
Keep everything functional. The snorkel is just gonna destroy the look of the car and u dont really need one unless you will cross rivers in the LC
Am I the only one that thinks that while they do good reviews...... the TFL guys could use some lessons in off road driving?
No, you're not
No matter what you guys do, can you show how much you guys spent on parts and installation? Show how expensive/affordable this build can be.
Minimum 110k total
It's a Land Cruiser, affordability is not what it's going for. Buy a 4Runner.
With the level of comfort in the new 4runners theyre the spiritual successor to the old cruisers
Where the money coming from for all this? I’m willing to bet it would be cheaper to get a Jeep rubicon or gladiator rubicon.
@@greenman2515 they already have a 2019 Wrangler Rubicon. They got it a few weeks ago.
LC based on a Tundra, hah that's funny! Now tell me who's your daddy?
You forgot to mention a very important off-road feature that all Land Cruisers come with, KDSS (kinetic dynamic suspension system) It optimally adjusts front and rear stabilizers based on a set of interconnected hydraulic cylinders. The interconnection is made up of hydraulic piping and a control cylinder which is located at the frame rail. KDSS, which is fully mechanical, can disengage the stabilizer bars. This system will not engage during normal driving conditions, when hydraulic pressure is equal. In off-road conditions, KDSS activates when it senses that a wheel has dropped. Some 4Runners also have it, mine does. Improves both off-road and on-road handling by loosening stabilizers when articulation is needed and stiffening them progressively firmer at speed for road use
Shivaskriv S always causes mis leveling for the car, if you changes anything in the shock absorbers you must do realignment instantly otherwise it will raise the car one side, mine 2009 200 vx which is never aligned correctly
Not all markets get kdss as standard
I love this. I’m constantly dreaming up OEM models that were never built. Don’t you dare holding short at any cost lol. Embroider the seats if you have to!
Voodoo Blue Land cruiser would've been one of a kind 😂
News Flash the 2019 Toyota 4RUNNER TRD PRO Voo Doo Blue is on of Kind
You are so horribly mistaken, when u say, Tundra and LC are built on same platform.
LC200 and LC570 have a class of its own and share same platform. And its shared with no other vehicle.
Sequoia and Tundra are same platform.
Too bad, you have bought the vehicle, not knowing and understanding true value of it.
The LC uses the same engine as the Tundra, but I believe the LC now has an 8 speed automatic transmission while the Tundra still uses the 6 speed. The frame and everything else between the LC and Tundra are different, and yes you are correct the Sequoia is the SUV version of the Tundra, they share the same traits.
LC570? Did you mean to say LX570?
@@wildbill23c incorrect. The LC uses forged internals throughout the 5.7. The Tundra/Sequoia get cast internals. The LC engine is much stronger. They did the same thing in the 100 Series where you could bolt a TRD supercharger on with zero issue. But, on the Tundras that used the cast internals on the 2UZ-FE, they became notorious for grenading when running the same supercharger. Again, the engines are similar, but the LC is engineered and built much stronger.
@@garyeanes4747 Hmm interesting I assumed the 5.7L engines were the same between both. Thanks for the information. I've heard of several Tundra 5.7L failures not supercharged so I could only imagine the failures with the supercharger maybe that's why Toyota discontinued the supercharger LOL. If it weren't for the price I'd love a new Land Cruiser.
@@benhuang2773 yes was a typo, i just realized :)
TRD exhaust!
Black TRD wheels
Different headlights
More of a TFL PRO grill
Bfg KO 2
2 inch fox lift
Remove the mud flaps
Finally a land cruiser video
I was desperately waiting for this
“We’re gonna try to keep this Land Cruiser looking as stock as possible”
*immediately changes grill*
They mean trd looking not actually stock
Should do an ORI before your TFL Pro upgrades. Then do the ORI after. Would be a good comparison.
RocHopn my estimates is 58ish.
The Land cruiser is the TRD PRO with out all the upgrades like the T4R, Taco, tundra and etc
The LC and the Tundra are not even close to the same underneath. The Sequoia and the
Tundra share drivetrains and components.
They're kinda close. Share all the drive train other than rear axle. Front tundra suspension is bolt on long travel. The LC has much better skid plates and such. But they're at least close cousins. Next gen will share a complete platform.
They share 93%-95% of the same components underneath. The frame on the lc is a shortened and stiffened tundra frame thats fully boxed for a smoother ride
@@CarPediaShow No they don't they share the engine, transmission and IFS geometry. literally everything else is unique for the land cruiser.
@@silver6gen1 forum.ih8mud.com/threads/200-series-lift-using-tundra-front-ifs-and-icon-shocks.875255/
@@silver6gen1 here is pictures of suspension components from a 200 series and tundra. Notice the parts are built exactly the same just a lil bigger on the tundra so it could be a srw land maxer in the us (79.9in wide) where the cruiser cant because it has to be more narrrow. Look how he used tundra suspension components and lift on his 200 series
And please gwt your facts right LC doesnt share tundra frame .
Do you know how many LC models exis globally?.. This particular one shared the chassis with the Tundra
Black out the big badge on the tail gate. Put on a Tundra Pro true dual exhaust.
The 2020 LC 200 heritage edition is pretty close to a factory TRD Pro package. It is a stunning truck
Not really. You get fancy wheels, no cool box, and no third row. But you do get 2 color choices and purdy stickers. No.... Toyota is taking a page from the Porsche playbook. Fancy stickers, "factory delete" items, and a higher price. Charge you more for less as a special edition. No thanks.
My uncle has a landcruiser, he has lifted it and put mud terrain tires, it's a beast and super reliable
PLEASE skip the goofy snorkel!!!!
They already installed, the truck is fully built
It’s not even a snorkel at all doesn’t help you in a river. Don’t really know the purpose of that stupid thing
@@shawnjames3212 Makes people think they're vehicle is cool by adding that crap....doesn't do anything to waterproof the rest of the vehicle that 99% of people completely skip.
@@shawnjames3212
Snorkel sucks clean air into the engine from higher up off the ground.
Instead of all the dust and dirt and exhaust it would normally suck in from close the ground.
they want to add a badge I just don't fit in
I think after all my complaining in literally every toyota offroad video not showing the land cruiser finally paid off. Great content!
Hello TFL, Just like everyone makes mistake comparing this to an LX570, you guys mistake it for being build on Tundra. Only similarity(with Tundra) is the Engine, but even that is build in a completely different country; to be specific, the most iconic Toyota factory which is bench-marked by most. And no, land cruiser is not aimed at the off-road market. It is purely designed for customers who looks for comfortable long distance cruising in tough terrains and locations were reliability and serviceability is paramount. This vehicle has limited applications in USA, hence the low sales volume and the confusion about its market positioning.
Nope, the Tundra and the LC also share the same transmission. In fact they have the identical powertrain. They also share the same rear axle and very similar rear suspension.
@@TFLtruck Oh yes, pre 2016 was 6speed in both. Current LCs have 8 speed. Rear suspension is coil spring in LCs since 80 series.
@@TFLtruck how exactly is the rear suspension similar when one has leaf and the other coil springs?
The fact that they share a few parts do no make them the same. You make an effort to differentiate the Cruiser from the LX570 when they share almost everything and yet claim that this is built on a Tundra platform! Your reasoning seems very odd.
The Fast Lane Truck the tundra has independent rear suspension, the landcruiser has solid rear axle, that’s not the same.
@@TFLtruck Love you guys but you are wrong here. The engine and trans are shared but from the transfer case on its completely different. Leaf springs vs 4 link, Rear axle is unique, KDSS, completely different more robust frame, yes the IFS shares geometry but not parts (you can actually use tundra lower control arms as a cost-effective long arm high travel mod on the cruiser), the interior switch gear and stereo are completely unique to the LC. The LC is 100% more or less hand built in Japan and the tundra is not.
Landcruiser is its own vehicle not a tundra or anything else and built in Japan maybe USA
That used to be true. The Land Cruiser used to be the best off road Toyota available. Now, although it is somewhat different, it really is a rebadged Sequoia. The suspension etc is basically Sequoia TRD Pro (ish). I like where the project is going! Toyota has lost their way as far as the Land Cruiser goes.
they need to lift all 3 vehicles and inspect them thoroughly before they'll know the difference...😊😊😊 they look and see almost the same thing then decided they must be the same...🤣🤣🤣
@@shitloveaduck no, it's not a rebadged sequoia. It's a 200 series LC, the same as every other 200 series LC all over the world with the exception of engines. If anything tundra and sequoia have taken designs from the lc200's. I understand it's easy to make this assumption because land cruisers aren't that popular in the US market but just about every where else in the world these are the go to trucks, besides hilux.
Corby Lambert - Thanks for correcting me. I agree, I was looking at this purely from a North American perspective. I still think they are not aimed at the same market as before though. Don’t you think they have sacrificed some of the off road aspects to cater to the luxury market? Maybe I just liked the image of the older designs. It is said a lot these days that vehicles in each class do start to look very similar.
Thanks again Corey. I like the new, and I believe more accurate, direction you have offered to look at how the Land Cruiser is used world wide.
@@shitloveaduck I agree the market has changed in the US, and I do think they have sacrificed for the luxury market. A major limitation to having factory badass trucks or even cars at a reasonable price point is government regulations, emissions, abs, seat belts, airbags, mpg's, catalytic converters. I was just in Africa in February and 70 series were everywhere, Toyota still produces 70 series. I saw some 120's 150's and 200 series too but majority were j79's. We were in Australia last fall and the j70's and j150's were the most popular LC by far. I agree with you, I prefer the older designs. I'd take a brand new double cab j79 if they were offered in the states!
love this vid. you need to make more like this.
I've been so excited for this series!
I would definitely add a rear locker; maybe something like an ARB Air Locker..
If you’re going front may as well go rear..? Am I right?😀
This is going to be a great series! Thank you for bringing it to us
It’s nice to see you guys go out of the normal realm, and venture into mods like these. This is awesome!
I’m so excited for this series! Can’t wait to see what you guys come up with!
So excited for this build. Looking forward to seeing it.
Yes! Was hoping y’all would get the cruiser off road equipped. Can’t wait for the rest of these episodes.
YAASSSS! Finally!! Can’t wait to see the series! I have a 100 series I’m just getting started on and looking forward to see what you do to the 200! Thanks guys!!!
You guys are spot on with the direction for the build ,and I love this new series for the channel
Awesome! Can’t wait to see you he upcoming vids!!
When showing clips about approach/departure/breakover angle, may you please get the camera down lower/closer so we can more clearly see contact and clearances? I really look forward to this build series! Thanks, TFL!
The Land Cruiser is superior to all the "TRD Pro" models which is why they don't make a LC TRD Pro. My 100 series is a fraction of the cost of any TRD Pro model and is just as capable as all of them.
all they need are good tires and a little lift maybe...
Yup! My 98 100 Series LX is superior to my uncle's 2017 T4R TRD Pro in every way except modern appointments. I don't have a single rattle and anyone riding in mine marvels at it's "tank-like" solidness. My uncles T4R TRD Pro has a few little rattles here and there. I have a rear locker (so comparable to the TRD Pro). He has bent tie rods and control arms. My 98 has never had anything bend despite some big hits. My CVs are significantly beefier than his as are my tie-rods and control arms. The T4R TRD Pro is a great off-roader IMO. But, it's simply NOT a LandCruiser. On identical tires, the 200 would beat the T4R TRD Pro on any terrain.
@@garyeanes4747 that's also the reason why saying a 4runner is the same as an LC Prado is a mistake... a Prado though smaller than an LC is built on the same standards and over-engineering... the 4runner is a very capable vehicle but will not last as long as the Prado... the 4runner is primarily designed for the North American market while LC and Prado are designed for places where the nearest certified service center is 500 kilometers or more away... the LC and Prado are not indestructible but they're built to run with regular maintenance only for 200,000 kilometers without any major breakdown... even the windshields and window glasses of the LC and Prado are thicker than the other vehicles in Toyotas line-up...
TRD PRO 4RUNNER is the top of the 4x4 off road food chain
Another great video guys! 👍
You guys are pretty cool, I like your channel. I am super stoked for this series!
Okay you got me , I'm hooked, can't wait to see this build. What a great idea.
Can't wait to see the up dates
Awesome video this was cool
can not wait , good job guys .
I'm stoked for this.
Excited to see the finish product, hope you guys upload it soon!
Toyota should not make a TRD Pro Land Cruiser. A Land Cruiser is a Land Cruiser.
Shots fired @9:38 @Streetspeed717 they calling you out 😂😂😂 👀
Really looking forward to this series! Good work guys!
Very excited for this one!
gonna be an awesome series
Been waiting for this cruiser videos!! This is gonna be awesome!!
Can’t wait to see the end product!
I absolutely LOVE your channel and website!
Thanks and keep up the great work!!!
Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated!
finally TFL means business ...surely caught my attention now..only thing I want to mention that other than the engine the LC DOES NOT SHARE THE SAME PLATFORM thank you
Jesus hadn't realized how significant badging is for going offroad, in a LC...
That's Awsome can't wait
damn so excited for this series
So, you can name it the TRD Cruiser, or the TurdCruiser Pro.
Joking aside, probably Toyota hasn't messed with the Land Cruiser because they think it's pretty capable bone stock.
Was 9:37 supposed to be a call out to streetspeed717?
talked to Mr. Tommy's dad at CU graduation, keep it up guys. Love the toyota vids.
Your "series" videos just keep getting better and better. Roman, you're one big dude and I don't mean waistline big! Is there any vehicle you fit in where your hair is touching the roof of the car? lol.
Steel after market bumper , 3 inch lift , 33s BFG KM3s , snorkel, Fox 2.5 shocks, rock sliders, rear after market bumper, LED headlights , lightbar 22 inch, 12,000 pound winch
Excited for this series!
Cool. Sounds like a good plan!
I'm excited to see what it looks like!
Awesome. Can’t wait.
Great Job TFL! Excited to see this Build, Keep up the Great Content.
I have loved Toyota 4x4's. Currently I have a 2001 Sequoia that I bought new in 2000 after owning a used Land Cruiser for 5 years. But now, the cyber truck is all I want. It does every thing I need. I look forward to getting one when they come out and owning it for 20 years if the batteries make it. Will find out. I have no problem at some point buying replacement batteries if needed.
Sounds like an excellent project!
I would consider:
-Kaymar rear bumper or CBI fab
-ARB front end
-Dobinsons suspensión
-total chaos UCA
-Slee sliders
-CBI armor
-Front runner roof rack
As I Jeep guy, I must say... very, very cool idea guys. Totally looking forward to it!
Can't wait 👍
It will be beast after modifications
👌
I love you guys keep the adventures coming! Put some KO’2 on this beast.
Ko2s so overrated
Please don’t do the snorkel. All the other plans sound great.
The land cruisers that we get in the Middle East are equipped with Rear diff lock even on the V6 version
Here in the US they don't build many vehicles like that because over here they know most people never leave paved roads they just modify their vehicles to look cool and show off their mall crawlers.
I've been waiting for this series since you guys released a video end of last year saying you bought a Land Cruiser!!
it would be great to do an intro when you get these vehcles, year, mileage, its history, cost, what is a fair used value,
I use to have a landcruiser (actually 2, 1994 and 2000) and it was very good except for the deathtrap tires it had on.. Michelin's. Hydroplaned horribly. Once I dumped them and got AT tires, night and day
Did you guys get a model with KDSS?? Can't remember if it's standard on the land cruisers but you'll want to make sure you get a lift kit compatible with it if you do have it
I think you should skip trying to make it factory. Put BP51 OME suspension on it and put some EVO Corsa wheels on with K02 tires and go enjoy it
Very cool vid....😎 👍 👊
Nice I have been waiting for the TFL Pro LandCruiser transformation series for a few months now after it was announced by Roman on a live show. I have already seen the finished product in the Jeep Wrangler JL announcement as the new TFL long term tester video and it looks absolutely LEGIT. Even though I love VooDoo Blue and even the Orange they had, the white with black is so clean and mean. Looking forward to the rest of this TFL Pro series.
I have a 200 series LC with Tundra TRD Pro wheels... it’s a great setup! All terrain tires are a must have for any off road adventures.
The LC and Tundra might share many components, but they feel very different behind the wheel. The main distinction between both, is that the LC was made with very high engineering standards, with sought after overland reliability. The Tundra was made to be a work truck, to reliably get in and out of a job site. I’ve seen overland videos with Tundras... they’ll get the job done, but they aren’t really elegant driving through trails.
Great! In my country, V6 LC200 has a rear diff lock. It is very important for off-road, especially in Mongolia.
It also needs a rear locker at least like the Tacoma.
They do in other countries Toyota knows people in north America only offroad for fun not for necessity like Australia Africa south America and eastern Europe
Because American 'People who but Luxurybox' will break whole rear diff and blame it for Yota and will sue them for making a 'Difficult to Operate' Vehicle
@@CarPediaShow Mate, whaddya reckon we have got any bloody bitumen roads down unda? All dodgin' Roos on the way to work every day! Geez mate you're fair dinkum off your bloody rocka! :)
I’m very excited about this series haha
What an awesome idea!!!
I don't know about the LC200 but I live and work in the heart of Africa. We only drive stock Land Cruisers though I admit they are 75, 76, 78, 80s and some 105s. They are all very capable. Even pulled out a Unimog once who thought he was invincible 😝
I suspect that a 2-3 inch lift and more aggressive tires would make a big difference.Of course some protection underneath wouldn't hurt either.
Toyota did a xtrem version here in Dubai last year, very similar in concept to the TRD pro in the States. They still sell FJ cruiser here and also do a xtrem model too 🤗
Drop a link, or a pic, or whatever you can please!
I’m looking forward to this transformation.
Land Cruiser doesn't need a TRD pro as an option, it's got that as standard
Very excited for this series. That is a great idea. Hopefully you don't upset Toyota, but motivate them to build one themselves.
@thefastlanetruck The land cruiser is not based at all on the tundra, it shares little to no parts (other than the engine & trans) with the tundra/Sequoia line. The land cruiser line is the longest-running nameplate that is still around, it's based on the progression of its self not off a cruddy half ton truck built for the US market.
It is completely independent and even beefier than the tundra/sequoia chassis. You use the Tundra front lower control arms on the land cruiser as a long arm long travel IFS step up.
You should have added an ORI score, it would be nice to see a before and after. 1st thing I did on my old Xterra was take the mud flaps off as well. KO2s, 2"lift and skid plates, lose the side steps and good to go. Also 1st ever Roman made me laugh with fridge joke 👍
Looking forward to the build. Like Bill P Dual Exhaust !!!
I see you like to poke fun at the snorkel but, it is a must in many countries ( maybe not in the USA ) like for where I am from certain trim levels of the 70 series come standard with a snorkel
Most people he in the states think is just for deep water and don't realize the added benefits of the colder air abs most importantly the cleaner air. I was truly shocked how clean the air filter stayed after installing a snorkel on an fj80
Cant wait to see how the new TRUD Cruiser looks like!