@@AL-kj8zo - I recall him saying it, although it was not in the context of marriage. Nor is the OP for that matter. She was addressing setting boundaries when first discussing what each of you needs as bf/gf. That should be way before marriage. It is a fact that to negotiate, you must have options and the other party must know that. Otherwise you are at their mercy, or lack of it.
@@AL-kj8zo but we aren’t talking about marriage… dating is important before marriage for this very reason. You’re testing if the other person is within your boundaries and meets your standards at different stages in both your lives. How does he/she act when things go south, when things get hairy, when things aren’t perfect, when infatuation/honeymoon phase fades away? And even if he wouldn’t say this about relationships, maybe the context of the quote doesn’t refer to relationships? It doesn’t sound like it to me in that regard
yes they will. Mature gorgeous woman who have shit going for them in life can be real picky and do a lot of shit testing... You saying this proves you're not visible in the dating market... Must suck
I’ve never experienced anything like this. I’m 41 I’ve been I’ve spent my entire life in relationships. If don’t date shit women and you won’t have these problems. You’ll have different problems that can be overcome together.
Bro I worked with this low key crazy girl. She was my assistant manager. She had her bf bring her food from a restaurant she likes and told me “I hope he brings me the certain food I usually get because this is a test” then she told me everything is a test. Like fuck that noise😂 I understand he should remember what she likes but everything is a test and a make or break to the relationship?
Note that this advice will not preserve a relationship, only end a bad one earlier, which is a good thing. Standards are important and men should have them, but do not treat this as a bargaining tool that she will in any way bend to, she will leave you for the next man who doesn't have those standards. This is good advice, but keep in mind the outcome to expect so you don't think it bad advice.
I disagree, EVERY woman at some point will test their man to see how far they can push him, if they realise he’s a pushover, she’s gone. A good woman will recognise if she has a legitimately strong man and will want to keep hold of him.
You are absolutely right. Most men will absolutely NOT walk away from a woman that they wholeheartedly love even if they know they should. There is gonna be a whole lotta cap in this comment section. Regardless of her attraction to you, she know that she has a mile long line of simps waiting to get their shot at her. You should absolutely be prepared to walk away at a moments notice, but also be prepare for said woman to already have another dude line up and be in a whole new relationship within weeks of you leaving…. Just saying…
A woman constantly testing your boundaries like a toddler should be enough for you to walk away. If she wants a relationship, she needs to grow up and act like she's ready to be equal partners.
It’s debatable. A woman constantly testing your boundaries keeps you on your toes, leaving no room for you to soften up. But it depends how far she goes to test those boundaries.
@Gyroh I don't want or need a woman to "keep me on my toes." I want a woman who supports me, and we build a relationship together. She should of course hold to her boundaries as well, but being a petulant child isn't a good way to develop a connection.
@@gyroh6593 This probably sounds like walking on eggshells, which is pretty much hanging out with a narc. Hey, I gotta keep my game out of self respect first. We need to be consistent with who we are, not just because we need to prove anything to anybody.
She is right! I was a doormat for years, and when I decided to love myself first and walked away, she tried everything to get my attention, and when she got none, she humbled and tried to get my attention but in the nice way(presents, visiting with food, and all kind of nice gestures) but it was already too late. Love yourselves kings!!
Former doormat here, everything changed until I used the nuclear option. She threw some random tantrum in the car, so I stopped in the middle of the highway, got her down and never saw her again. 20 minutes later I was having beer and food with my friends while she kept calling non stop. Remember guys, if her dad doesn't put up with her fuckery, why should you?
@Fixer this is soo true. My ex's dad actually at some point said he admired me because his daughter is a piece of work. That should've been my exit sign but stupid me was in lala land.
I absolutely agree, same here. I’m 45 and It’s easier to leave a woman than it is to stay with them. Only problem is most men don’t have these standards and the overwhelming majority of women know it and exploit it…
Same. I don't do three strikes. I have one strike. This is after I have made my own healthy boundaries very clear and asked her if she has any for me. That's what a man does if he has options.
When my wife and I were first dating she tried some manipulation bs over the phone. I called her out and ended the call by saying to her why would someone who is supposed to love me treat me this like this. I'm going to stay home. She showed up at my door a few hours later, crying, and apologized for her behavior. She's made a point of eliminating that sort of behavior from herself, and has even encouraged her mother (who she learned it from) to do the same (with less than stellar results from her mom).
Had a woman move into my house, a bit later she threatened to move out. She started throwing clothes in a suitcase...I started helping her pack. She started unpacking as I was packing. I asked her if we were packing her things or not? She was gobsmacked I wasn't begging her to stay. I told her, I don't play those games. If you want to leave, leave. My life was bumping along just fine before you showed up, and it will bump along just fine if you leave. If you want to stay, act like you want to stay. I did end up helping her move in with her mom a few years later. She said she wanted time with her mom before her mom died. I was ready for the relationship to end so it was a win-win. Why? Because she had 27 personalities and 26 of them hated me.
It might be, that they are both. Controlling others is definitely a sign of insecurity. But people can't manage, when romantic relationships are non-exclusive, due to cultural conditioning. Telling another person what to do and what to do in regard to other people, is just childish. Setting boundaries counts when it's about yourself.
When i was younger, there was a really competitive girl that i was excited to see whos better in our bowling date, i was talking about it with another girl right before and she said i need to let her win so I listened to her ... the one i went on the date with saw me as weak and things didnt work out lol .. all good now though, have a great relationship
Lol...BS. If the girl is young and attractive she'll find someone else to annoy. If you want to ghost a girl and see what happens...go ahead be my guest. This blanket advice only applies to a small minority of women who would be affected by this kind of thing.
@@brucet2756 ghosting a girl isn’t what we are talking about. You gotta use discretion and say “I’m not afraid of walking away from this situation” in a smooth way that doesn’t come off combative or naggy
@@vitoleskur it’s kind of like saying “don’t be a tool”. People who aren’t tools get it, but people who are tools think being a tool means “easily usable and disposable.” Which ironically makes them more of a tool to think so. You’re not helping people who are tools by saying don’t be a tool, just preaching to the choir.
Tried this she left me and I couldn’t be happier. Yes I’m sad our relationship ended but I wasn’t given the respect I deserve. I did everything for her and she did nothing. She took it as me being controlling and cheated on me for a guy who’s a scum and now she’s living a scum life while mine prospers. Gentlemen if she’s not giving you peace of mind when you come home after your daily war then she’s not the one.
The OG Black Phillip, "walk with confidence even if your a ugly muddafukka if youre a hunchback, she'll be like why does it feel like i need to be f***ing him" still kills me😂
I feel if you need to do all this to be with somebody, train them like a dog almost, make them live in fear of you leaving for them to behave well... Then that person is not the right person! She is telling you how to deal with a narcisist dishomest woman. Why would you wanna deal with a person like that on the first place? I am married and the reason I treat my husband well is not because I am.scared he will leave. Its because I love him. I have no wish to test his boundaries go partying or talk with other man. I think we should all aspire to be with someone that we don't need to make a huge strategy for them to treat us well... People can treat you well also without you threatening them or making strategies. People can naturally simply treat you well without you havimg to scare them into it. This works for naricist not for healthy loving people That may work for dating, but a marriage based on that would be exausting for both parts and crack quickly
Man, I needed to hear this 20 years ago in my young dating life. Everything worked out now, but this is great advice. Don't stick around and tolerate bad behavior just because you don't get dates/girlfriends that often. It's better to be single than compromise your integrity.
Honestly guys you’re never going to be able to manipulate a partner into sharing your values. At best they’ll openly resent you and at worst they’ll deceive you until your lives are intertwined and you’re miserable. My advice 1. Accept people for who they are and act accordingly 2. write down a list of traits you want in a partner and then do your best to embody those traits. This course of action will naturally lead you into circles where you’re most likely to find a person that shares your values.
number 2 is not fully accurate. I want a feminine woman. I do NOT want to be feminine. I also want a family-oriented woman. It'd be best if I was career-oriented as a man. Do not embody feminine traits if you're looking for a feminine woman. Likewise, women, do not embody masculine traits if you're looking for a masculine man. But, yeah, general character is shared: loyalty, integrity, respectful, empathetic, good-natured, emotionally and mentally stable, etc..
If the threat of leaving is what it takes for her to act right. You need to walk away anyway. She shouldn't have to hold anything over my head for me to act right, I'm not looking to have to hold anything over her head for her to act right. Mutual respect from the beginning is what determines a good relationship.
True but its good to know your boundaries and not settle for someone who is toxic and manipulating. Some men don't have boundaries and they get walked on all over
Life is all about power. The universal attraction for females is power, and power is the ability to say no. This is true in all aspects of your life. If you can tell your manager or boss “no” you have more power than they do. If they can replace you and you can’t say no, they have the power and will abuse you accordingly. If you are hard to replace and can get a new job easily saying no leads to raises and promotions. Relationships with women is the same. If she can tell you no and walk out that door and get a man as good as you easily she has the power. If you can tell her no and walk away than you have the power.
I tried to do this with my wife and our marriage therapist told me it was manipulative to demand respect and that I have no right to another humans emotions. I'm divorced
@@RTSBone just normal issues. Drifting apart, not feeling fulfilled but still in love enough to try. But unfortunately the advice wasn't worth it for me, only her. So I left
@gamer8622 sorry, It was a rhetorical question. As in: you shouldn't have gone in the first place, it's a waste of time, in which the feminist-indoctrinated therapist, demasculinizes or shames the husband...
As a man in 2023, you MUST have enough mental and physical assets to be able to function and grow on your own. A woman must be no more than a nicety. Your life should not be miserable without a woman.
Ive had 3 relationships in 12 years now im single for 2 years and i love it to much i dont need no one if i fall in love and get blind thats something else
Until marriage and it all reverts. Better advice: identify the red flags beforehand and instead, just leave. Find someone that knows how to treat someone with love and respect from the start
If a person disrespects your, make sure you aren't responsible for it . If they still disrespect you then earn it. Only then consider moving on.If you just give up on the first failure like a coward you won't even respect yourself. Much less others
@@davidz3879 If your boss disrespect you and you can't find another job, it's a great time to rethink your life so you won't be stuck in a toxic work environment moving forward.
I wouldn't even say the women gatekeep sex. If any woman tries that b.s. with me, i can easily walk away because there's another one ready to give it up.
We're not allowed to set boundaries because then were called controlling and narcissistic. We're just expected to put up with everything and be the only one accountable.
Very true. Without going into a bunch of detail, I have put this into practice and I have experienced the exact outcome you have described. When they know you mean business it makes a huge difference.
One more thing I'd like to add: My dudes, I know how bad it is to be lonely but do *NOT* settle for less out of desperation. Another advantage that you have offer women is that as long as you can provide something if worth, *you have time on your side* If you've spent your time making yourself better and more successful instead of having fun, you deserve a woman who makes you feel like royalty. Don't settle for less.
Nailed it! And speaking from experience, I've done the desperation as well as settling. It never works! Stay single and work on yourself. Let your glow-up be your light-up.
Absolutely. Loneliness or the fear of being lonely is something we need to get rid of. Women leverage that and string us along. That weakness has never played out well for me. Despite having many experiences with women that level of respect was never quite there. Interestingly they walk whenever they feel like it leaving us hanging in hoping. For me those days are done.
Learning to be comfortable being alone was the best thing I ever did. Been single 7 or 8 years and it's gonna take a hell of a female to change that lol.
Having boundaries, making it clear what you will and won’t tolerate and letting your partner know you are willing to walk away is honestly good advice for men and women
I found this out in my mid thirties and had a dynamic shift in my marriage. Men are always willing to give in, because it is not worth the hassle. We want peace. By giving in, even when you are right only creates more problems. Women really want men to be men. They don’t want weaklings.
This is why even the trashy masculine women are always screaming "I need a man who can HANDLE me!!" Most of them are fatherless women who legit need a man to HANDLE them because they're essentially children that need a father figure. Once you realize that this is true of most modern women, you just start treating them like a competent father and they are happy in the relationship. It's only the dudes that hide from problems and try to keep her happy or ignore her altogether that are incapable of maintaining a healthy relationship.
Yes in doomed relationships that have a a solidified expiration date. In relationships that benefit all members involved, all parties should help each other maximize their care. Because if OP statement is applied universal it incentives people to be the one who cares the least and that is very counterproductive to say the least
That's an oversimplification, and assumes the goal of a relationship is to establish ultimate power over the other. It might be more accurate to say that a recurring focus throughout the relationship should be caring intensely about one's own deeper values, priorities, anf boundaries. That's where your own personal power lies. When you get into the games of "I need to care less than my partner", you send the implicit message that the end goal is to compete for status, when in reality it's that competitive mindset you need to flush out of the relationship, USING personal boundaries.
Only do this if you dont care about the relationship, or it has a useful half life. In a loving relationship, this is how you fuck it up. Act like you dont care if you want, dont be surprised when your wife gets sick of your shit and your kids dont gaf when you die.
@@Mr.Ut21Who said anything about acting. “Cares the least.” I actually feel this statement. It’s not about not actually caring or putting on an act. I will give my all to/for you but will drop you in a flash if you betray me. It’s not a power thing in the sense like the quote suggests. It’s the power of always being self reliant and your partner should know it. I should only need to let that energy be felt one time for you to understand what it is. I’ll be just as fine without you as I am with you. I want you to be a part of my life but if you don’t that’s okay. I am a very loyal person and care deeply but I will always respect myself more. If you’re with someone you don’t actually care about and treat them like shit and remind them of it 24/7… they’re usually the people that are scared to be alone and deserve to be. I will always be good on my own.
@@Mr.Ut21Indeed - no acting required. I have a life of my own, and no woman will ever be able to make me happy. I have to do that myself, and I won't let any woman get in the way. I don't tolerate any antisocial bs.
Same advice for women!! So much power in walking away, and a man understanding they could lose you. It works for both genders. You have to want yourself and your peace more than that shitty relationship.
If she does something that causes you to walk and then she convinces you to come back, then you've lost. If you walk, then you have to stay gone. Respect yourselves out there gentlemen.
@@jasondavis3774 There can be no second chance and definitely no third chance. If she can make you flip 180 degrees on such a massive decision as breaking up with someone, then shes going to lose all respect for you. If you actually broke up with her and ended things, you should never get committed to her ever again.
As a man, this is one of the few advice from women that is actually true. I had to walk away from women who were attractive but had horrible personalities. Their attraction skyrocketed when I walked away.
This would been a great advice for a 16 year old me so any 16 old boy watching this: This girl is telling the truth and you should listen to her because it's going to save you a lot of pain.
The mere fact that we have to treat women like children, and keep them in line so they dont cheat, is what has so many men just giving up on relationships. Ladies, we shouldn't have to keep you in line. That's your job.
Well they aren’t raised on how to treat or respect men. They’re raised to know how to use and take advantage of men for their own gain or benefit. For men, it’s the other way around. Men are taught how to treat and "respect women" which means labor and simp for them, and put them on a pedestal. To not take advantage of them or use them. This is why things are the way they are. Society is quick to point out men doing wrong, but not women doing wrong. Women delve into the worst parts of their female nature and are encouraged to do so, where as men are absolutely shamed by society for delving into the worst parts of male nature
Literally just did this to my girl. Got with her and tolerated a shit ton of the most infantile behavior I've ever seen. I packed my shit and told her that she needs to improve if I'm coming back. She immediately went nuts. I gave no ground whatsoever. Just like that, she started acknowledging her behavior.
@@Michael18599You can get married just don't sign a marriage certificate. Your written and verbal vows, your rings, your trust, and your witnesses are all you need. Ya don't need the government to recognize it.
If you define marriage as a civil union ordained by the g’ment, you are correct. If by marriage you mean a sacred union ordained by God through hiw devoted followers, which symbolizes Gods love for the church, you are wrong. My unsolicited advice, don’t sign a g’ment contract. However, do have your wife submit to God before you get on your knee and ask her to marry you.
This is the absolute truth. I dated this girl who had no dad, had shitty boyfriends her whole life. Then she finally met me, someone with discipline and already established, I had a house and my own business. Moved her in. Took care of her for the first year. Then when she wanted more of a emotional relationship, I was able to adapt and give that to her but that might have been where I made my first mistake. Me letting my guard down no longer made me the leader, now we were "equals" bc I would talk about my feelings more and she used that to push my boundaries to the point where I just broke up with her bc I felt so disrespected.
Same here 60 failed marriage learned over the past 2 yrs how to set boundaries in therapy. Completely different in the way they act. This woman speaks FACTS!!!
This bit of advice is about all relationships, boundaries are key to respect it’s a two way street. Get to Know, love and respect yourself and then the right people with the same kind of standards will appear in your life.
What a bleak worldview it is to believe that a man's most powerful tool is his absence, his ability to remove himself. It's nothing he brings to the table (strength, stability, compassion), its what he can take away. This is a dark nihilistic hole to avoid. A world where every relationship is a negotiation liable to implode rather than a resilient bond based on love and commitment, what you can give to each other, what you can add to each other's lives and make each other stronger.
This right here. Couldn't have said it better myself. It's a shame that the people generating all the clicks on relationship advice have reduced them to a power struggle where the man must be a dominating, powerhouse of stoicism to gain respect and commitment from his woman. Teach morality and values first. Only then can a relationship last. Of course, being a Christian myself, I would argue that Christian values are a necessity, but I digress.
What she means is: " I'm going to mistreat and disrespect you up to the point you'll tolerate, so don't tolerate an endless amount but I'm never going to stop testing your nerves because I'm a bitch and refuse to treat you the way I want to he treated." They think the golden rule doesn't apply to them. They expect to recieve but never give respect. They'll dish out whatever they can get away with instead of just being decent. Zero introspection, logic, reason, morals and all those treasured character traits. They only offer personality, which is fake, duplicitous self-centerd and overly dramatic. Narcissism and sociopathy are just highlighted feminine traits.
I met a woman on Sunday. I asked her to go on a proper first date on Tuesday because I made a prior business commitment and she acted jealous and thought I was seeing another woman. I had to defend that statement by saying I honor my commitments, do you? I recognize that behavior as controlling and cancelled the date. She signalled DRAMA even before I got her last name. What a relief! Thanks for letting us know when this happens, W. A. L. K .
I talked w a chick ive just met and when we talked about travel i mentioned an ex gf that i was totally done with from years ago that was a reason for a specific travel, she went oussed and stoooed what was starting very well betwn us. I guess she imagined many things like a big redflag, just because i had an ex and was confortable talking about past. That was a redflag to me. She should be worried about how confortable i am now and how my mind is rather than her paranoid suspiscions. I understand her though but
It really comes down to knowing self first what is best next and lastly showing you're true to yourself and can be her friend because respect has a base (see Proverbs 31 Gods description of the virtuous woman and Psalm 127-128 for God's blessings to grow a family which becomes his family in the kingdom of God when Jesus Christ is sent to rule and bring peace and joy to all nations and families which make up the same - so please see 'Christadelphian videos and Christadelphian bible talks'for excellent learning and greater awareness spiritually and you will be glad if you do speakers worldwide from Australia NewZealand England South Africa and North America great talks about all the subjects you always wanted to understand 😊
Agreed. It only sucks when it doesn't work. Don't get me wrong, it's always the right move, but it still hurts when at that moment you cared more than she did.
I can vouch for this. Girlfriend only 2 months in got in an argument with her ex. I didn’t talk to her for 3 days. I’ve never seen someone crawl back like her
you were lucky it was an argument with that ex. Otherwise it might not have been her crawling back ;) If there are no old exes to return to, there are new ones to pick from. Life does not tolerate vacuum
I walked away. She scoffed when I told her she was disrespectful. She also thought “respect” was special treatment like how a mean boss requires you to treat them, so I guess I can’t judge her too harshly since she clearly doesn’t know what respect is 😂 But jeez, that girl had no concept of boundaries, my feelings were a joke to her, and she routinely used me and acted hurt when I expressed how she made me feel.
You don't give them multiple chances to respect you if they break your trust once they'll do it again. Make your boundaries clear and if they're broke you give them the boot. Don't be a simp beta cuck boy.
Happened to me couple of months ago, asked a girl out, one day she acted interested the other day she wasn’t she rejected the date and I walked away. She thought I would chase her and beg her that she’s making a mistake, she tried getting my attention but I wasn’t giving it. Oh boy how the tables turned in my favour
I broke off a 7 month relationship via text a few days after a fight with my narcissist ex. I tried to reconcile with a talk after the fight - we set a date, she stonewalled me for a week through the date, then she reached out and said, “Hey, did you want to talk?” I thanked her for the life lessons…blocked her. It was so hard to do, and I cant stop thinking about her (not in a I miss you way)…but it was 100% necessary. So much disrespect in those months…I’m walking out with my dignity.
It’s not about playing by the right set of constraints and games so a woman won’t treat you like shit! It’s about being able to identify the kind of woman that treat men like shit early and staying clear of them and looking for a caring and genuine person.
Nah but all women will disrespect you at some point or another, and then this becomes important. There’s no perfect girl out there. In fact they even will start to disrespect you precisely when they begin to sense that you would under no conditions walk. They want to see that you have dignity and demand respect
Relationships with women are like buying a used car. Never fall in love with the car, always be able to just walk out of the dealership, and realize there is another deal just down the road at the next dealership. Always always always look under the hood. Always take it for many test drives. Never fall for just shiny paint
Dude, you sound like an absolute virgin. You’re talking about people, not vehicles. If you don’t fall in love then you’re only half living, and you’ll never know true support and joy. The only aspect of what you’re saying I would somewhat agree with is that you should always let a woman know that there’s something in the world that you care about slightly more than them, be it a passion for sports, cinema, your love for your children, your love for god - whatever your own thing is. Let them know that they can walk before you abandon your passion for that aspect of your life. That usually helps curb too much of the narcissistic behaviour that SOME women are capable of.
She is absolutely right lads. Always make yourself clear about your boundaries and rules and everything. The more she crosses that and the most you say “it’s fine” the more you depreciate and the more of a loser you become. Stand your ground and stand up for what you believe in and all that. If a girl doesn’t like that or doesn’t respect that, walk away. Because if it was the other way around a girl wouldn’t even think about staying. She would just leave. I seen a comment saying well if she was mature enough she wouldn’t be doing that in the first place. That is not the point. The point is that there is constant pressure of women who take on men without them realizing it. I’m 22 years old and I know how girls are these days and I have lived it but I guess older guys and older women sometimes go through that without them realizing it and that’s why there’s relationships that are on and off until someone realizes that it’s just pure nonsense.
I live with my wife, doughter and my wife's mother. It was a war in first 3 years and now everyone knows each other. I don't have to pretend in anything I want to say or to do. This lady is rights, you can not be soft, you have to fight with women for yourself and your family. I had a lesson from my uncle: don't listen to them, be yoursef- he said.
Schooled my brother on this. His ex kept using the old line "I'll stop you seeing the kids". Poor guy was in bits. Told him to let her do it (explained she'd only do it the once, then he'd have the power!). He called her on it. She had the kids for 4 weeks without a break. She was calling him, begging him to have them for a weekend.
Honestly good advice. Just tell it like it is flat out early on in the relationship. If they can’t even respect you setting the boundaries they certainly won’t respect the actual boundary being set. You’ll know then whether or not to run for the hills.
if she said it like it was and should be, she would simply say women are their most powerful tool. a good woman on your side til death, is the most powerful thing a man can acquire
@@johnbryan2414 - that sounds nice. Finding one today who gives love, respect and joy to her man instead of treating him like a despised inferior is difficult. Marriage ideally should be a taste of heaven. In 2023 in the US and most western countries, the majority are a bit of hell. Modern Wave 3+ feminism teaches that men are inferior and evil because they are men, period. And that "we" have been holding women back from their potential for thousands of years. Today 80% of husbands feel trapped and miserable with what was supposed to be a loving partner, but isn't. Good women do exist. But good luck finding one these days.
Good advice but execution is very important… you don’t want to be labeled controlling. If it’s early on, don’t try to change them, just leave. My brother dated this girl that was like 28 clubbing every weekend. He picked up on that after her third weekend in a row of clubbing, asked her about it and she said it was the norm. He said he wasn’t interested in all that. Didn’t bother giving an ultimatum, just left. The point is it’s important to recognize when people just straight up aren’t compatible with you. Setting boundaries with someone that’s already doing something you don’t like is controlling whereas setting boundaries with someone who doesn’t do anything you have a problem with but might be tempted to do stuff you have a problem with or asks for your permission first is perfectly healthy
@@TheIcecreamtaco I somewhat agree but if a girl is interested you can always test your luck. She’ll stop clubbing for the right one. She’s probably ran through if she’s clubbing at 28 but you could still get her into your frame if you were so inclined.
I would add a man's ability to be stoic, calm, & rational when faced with her emotion. Been there many times. The last thing you need is for the both of you to be consumed by emotion.
@@dallasbiggz7007 That's pussy talk. If you can't control a woman, you're not a man. Women are easy as hell. Their natural inclination is to go with the flow. So unless you're being weak and pathetic or hiding from your problems, it's easy to keep a woman well-behaved. It's only weak and timid men who allow themselves to be fucked over.
It works sometimes, other times you just never see them again and you become detached for good. It depends on if the girl was initially attracted to you or not.
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If you can't tell someone to go to hell you can't negotiate. - Jordan Peterson
Is this for real?
It doesn't sound like him. He says the point of marriage is to not be able to run away and that way you are forced to negotiate..
@@AL-kj8zo -
I recall him saying it, although it was not in the context of marriage.
Nor is the OP for that matter. She was addressing setting boundaries when first discussing what each of you needs as bf/gf. That should be way before marriage.
It is a fact that to negotiate, you must have options and the other party must know that. Otherwise you are at their mercy, or lack of it.
@@AL-kj8zo but we aren’t talking about marriage… dating is important before marriage for this very reason. You’re testing if the other person is within your boundaries and meets your standards at different stages in both your lives. How does he/she act when things go south, when things get hairy, when things aren’t perfect, when infatuation/honeymoon phase fades away? And even if he wouldn’t say this about relationships, maybe the context of the quote doesn’t refer to relationships? It doesn’t sound like it to me in that regard
@@TheIcecreamtaco I agree.
A mature woman won’t constantly test your boundaries to begin with.
I was about to say the same. The biggest problem with this example is you’re still with a person who would manipulate you given the chance.
yes they will. Mature gorgeous woman who have shit going for them in life can be real picky and do a lot of shit testing... You saying this proves you're not visible in the dating market... Must suck
Shit testing is a favorite tool of foolish women
I’ve never experienced anything like this. I’m 41 I’ve been I’ve spent my entire life in relationships. If don’t date shit women and you won’t have these problems.
You’ll have different problems that can be overcome together.
Bro I worked with this low key crazy girl. She was my assistant manager. She had her bf bring her food from a restaurant she likes and told me “I hope he brings me the certain food I usually get because this is a test” then she told me everything is a test. Like fuck that noise😂 I understand he should remember what she likes but everything is a test and a make or break to the relationship?
We don’t negotiate with terrorists
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Note that this advice will not preserve a relationship, only end a bad one earlier, which is a good thing. Standards are important and men should have them, but do not treat this as a bargaining tool that she will in any way bend to, she will leave you for the next man who doesn't have those standards. This is good advice, but keep in mind the outcome to expect so you don't think it bad advice.
If she threatens to leave because of her bad behaviour then you are better off without her.
I disagree, EVERY woman at some point will test their man to see how far they can push him, if they realise he’s a pushover, she’s gone.
A good woman will recognise if she has a legitimately strong man and will want to keep hold of him.
@@TheKG636 lmao
@@SirTayluh You overestimate women’s ability to walk away from a man that they truly want.
You are absolutely right. Most men will absolutely NOT walk away from a woman that they wholeheartedly love even if they know they should. There is gonna be a whole lotta cap in this comment section. Regardless of her attraction to you, she know that she has a mile long line of simps waiting to get their shot at her. You should absolutely be prepared to walk away at a moments notice, but also be prepare for said woman to already have another dude line up and be in a whole new relationship within weeks of you leaving…. Just saying…
A woman constantly testing your boundaries like a toddler should be enough for you to walk away. If she wants a relationship, she needs to grow up and act like she's ready to be equal partners.
AMEN BROTHER! Couldn't have be better explained! I tried, but failed...
I thought the same thing. If you didn’t have any background info you would think she was describing a child.
It’s debatable. A woman constantly testing your boundaries keeps you on your toes, leaving no room for you to soften up. But it depends how far she goes to test those boundaries.
@Gyroh I don't want or need a woman to "keep me on my toes." I want a woman who supports me, and we build a relationship together. She should of course hold to her boundaries as well, but being a petulant child isn't a good way to develop a connection.
@@gyroh6593 This probably sounds like walking on eggshells, which is pretty much hanging out with a narc. Hey, I gotta keep my game out of self respect first. We need to be consistent with who we are, not just because we need to prove anything to anybody.
She 100% right fellas. Be a man with standards. Don't just chase the box.
Hit it, just don't ring it.
But the box is all I want 😂
@The King of the Universe you do it for yourself. You don’t give a fuck if she realises a mistake or not. She’s a past.
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Are you suggesting to think outside the box 😅
If you have a girl who still talks to ex's and still wants to party you shouldn't be around her in the first place.
“Sometimes the best thing to do, is to walk away”
She is right! I was a doormat for years, and when I decided to love myself first and walked away, she tried everything to get my attention, and when she got none, she humbled and tried to get my attention but in the nice way(presents, visiting with food, and all kind of nice gestures) but it was already too late.
Love yourselves kings!!
Well said
Former doormat here, everything changed until I used the nuclear option. She threw some random tantrum in the car, so I stopped in the middle of the highway, got her down and never saw her again. 20 minutes later I was having beer and food with my friends while she kept calling non stop. Remember guys, if her dad doesn't put up with her fuckery, why should you?
@Fixer this is soo true. My ex's dad actually at some point said he admired me because his daughter is a piece of work. That should've been my exit sign but stupid me was in lala land.
@@fixer1140 cheers free man🤴
@@mystomachurts2005 glad to hear you finally escaped in one piece champion. You are a great man, don´t let anyone tell you otherwise.
I hear one lie... I'm out. When they are in contact with ex's - I walk. No explanation given.
Exactly like they shouldn't be doing that at all
I absolutely agree, same here. I’m 45 and It’s easier to leave a woman than it is to stay with them. Only problem is most men don’t have these standards and the overwhelming majority of women know it and exploit it…
Same. I don't do three strikes. I have one strike.
This is after I have made my own healthy boundaries very clear and asked her if she has any for me.
That's what a man does if he has options.
Well, women lie all the time.
When my wife and I were first dating she tried some manipulation bs over the phone. I called her out and ended the call by saying to her why would someone who is supposed to love me treat me this like this. I'm going to stay home.
She showed up at my door a few hours later, crying, and apologized for her behavior. She's made a point of eliminating that sort of behavior from herself, and has even encouraged her mother (who she learned it from) to do the same (with less than stellar results from her mom).
Your lucky I did that and despite her showing up at my door, crying etc chance afyer chance but she never changed and it continued.
I walked away from a woman that abused me narcisisticly. Man was she pissed 😂😂😂
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Same
How long did you stick around ?
@@Mr.Helper. Only a few weeks. We weren't dating or anything we were just friends but still abused me narcisisticly.
I'm proud of you
Had a woman move into my house, a bit later she threatened to move out. She started throwing clothes in a suitcase...I started helping her pack. She started unpacking as I was packing. I asked her if we were packing her things or not? She was gobsmacked I wasn't begging her to stay. I told her, I don't play those games. If you want to leave, leave. My life was bumping along just fine before you showed up, and it will bump along just fine if you leave. If you want to stay, act like you want to stay.
I did end up helping her move in with her mom a few years later. She said she wanted time with her mom before her mom died. I was ready for the relationship to end so it was a win-win. Why? Because she had 27 personalities and 26 of them hated me.
broooo🤣🤣🤣 27 personalities
Nice
You are the man
Dam 🤣, glad you got out there champ 🙌
The novel should be called “The strange things we do for the punani”
The information that you just gave there lady is pure gold. 👍
“You’re just insecure” when you try to set boundaries regarding male friends 😂👍
Then don't need her see you never
It might be, that they are both. Controlling others is definitely a sign of insecurity.
But people can't manage, when romantic relationships are non-exclusive, due to cultural conditioning.
Telling another person what to do and what to do in regard to other people, is just childish.
Setting boundaries counts when it's about yourself.
I actively advise my friends to never take advice about girls from another girl but this one may be the exception
Yeah this lady knows her realism
When i was younger, there was a really competitive girl that i was excited to see whos better in our bowling date, i was talking about it with another girl right before and she said i need to let her win so I listened to her ... the one i went on the date with saw me as weak and things didnt work out lol .. all good now though, have a great relationship
Yea exactly this is litteraly the most important thing when it comes to Female to Man attraction
Lol...BS. If the girl is young and attractive she'll find someone else to annoy. If you want to ghost a girl and see what happens...go ahead be my guest. This blanket advice only applies to a small minority of women who would be affected by this kind of thing.
@@brucet2756 ghosting a girl isn’t what we are talking about. You gotta use discretion and say “I’m not afraid of walking away from this situation” in a smooth way that doesn’t come off combative or naggy
TLDR: Don't be a doormat
In essence it's the same point, but it's very different when someone explains it like she did, especially when someone doesn't understand it
@@vitoleskur Yeah. ,
I think explaining the mechanism helps
@@vitoleskur it’s kind of like saying “don’t be a tool”. People who aren’t tools get it, but people who are tools think being a tool means “easily usable and disposable.” Which ironically makes them more of a tool to think so. You’re not helping people who are tools by saying don’t be a tool, just preaching to the choir.
A TLDR for a TH-cam short? 😂
@@steveh572 it's not going to improve attention spans that's for sure 🤣
"You don't ask a fish how to catch a fish, you ask the fisherman"
What she's saying are words from the fishermen himself. 🤡
Bad comparison. I'm a fisherman and I catch fish only to kill and eat it.
You’re 100% right these pages need to be banned
Y’all say this everytime you don’t have a real argument
Tried this she left me and I couldn’t be happier. Yes I’m sad our relationship ended but I wasn’t given the respect I deserve. I did everything for her and she did nothing. She took it as me being controlling and cheated on me for a guy who’s a scum and now she’s living a scum life while mine prospers. Gentlemen if she’s not giving you peace of mind when you come home after your daily war then she’s not the one.
"Once she knows you'll righteously leave, she'll righteously stay."
-Patrice O'Neal
Glory to black Philipp!
The OG Black Phillip, "walk with confidence even if your a ugly muddafukka if youre a hunchback, she'll be like why does it feel like i need to be f***ing him" still kills me😂
the king hinself
His podcasts are still waaaay too relevant b ! Good shout fam 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I feel if you need to do all this to be with somebody, train them like a dog almost, make them live in fear of you leaving for them to behave well...
Then that person is not the right person!
She is telling you how to deal with a narcisist dishomest woman.
Why would you wanna deal with a person like that on the first place?
I am married and the reason I treat my husband well is not because I am.scared he will leave.
Its because I love him. I have no wish to test his boundaries go partying or talk with other man.
I think we should all aspire to be with someone that we don't need to make a huge strategy for them to treat us well...
People can treat you well also without you threatening them or making strategies.
People can naturally simply treat you well without you havimg to scare them into it.
This works for naricist not for healthy loving people
That may work for dating, but a marriage based on that would be exausting for both parts and crack quickly
Man, I needed to hear this 20 years ago in my young dating life. Everything worked out now, but this is great advice. Don't stick around and tolerate bad behavior just because you don't get dates/girlfriends that often. It's better to be single than compromise your integrity.
lol thats common sense 🤣🤷♂️
@@DEEKANDTARAIt really is. People just aren't very rational.
@@DEEKANDTARAThey'll blindly do whatever they feel like doing right now. They'll succumb to their feelings.
@@mymaster1402 true
So true, peace of mind is so underrated.. nobody needs the headaches
Honestly guys you’re never going to be able to manipulate a partner into sharing your values. At best they’ll openly resent you and at worst they’ll deceive you until your lives are intertwined and you’re miserable. My advice
1. Accept people for who they are and act accordingly
2. write down a list of traits you want in a partner and then do your best to embody those traits. This course of action will naturally lead you into circles where you’re most likely to find a person that shares your values.
I like 2
number 2 is not fully accurate. I want a feminine woman. I do NOT want to be feminine. I also want a family-oriented woman. It'd be best if I was career-oriented as a man. Do not embody feminine traits if you're looking for a feminine woman. Likewise, women, do not embody masculine traits if you're looking for a masculine man.
But, yeah, general character is shared: loyalty, integrity, respectful, empathetic, good-natured, emotionally and mentally stable, etc..
If you want respect, first you have to respect yourself
If the threat of leaving is what it takes for her to act right. You need to walk away anyway. She shouldn't have to hold anything over my head for me to act right, I'm not looking to have to hold anything over her head for her to act right. Mutual respect from the beginning is what determines a good relationship.
doesn’t work with relationships unfortunately
True but its good to know your boundaries and not settle for someone who is toxic and manipulating. Some men don't have boundaries and they get walked on all over
But if someone is toxic and manipulative you need to try and walk away, not try to maintain the relationship
Good one ! Wise man.
Life is all about power. The universal attraction for females is power, and power is the ability to say no. This is true in all aspects of your life. If you can tell your manager or boss “no” you have more power than they do. If they can replace you and you can’t say no, they have the power and will abuse you accordingly. If you are hard to replace and can get a new job easily saying no leads to raises and promotions.
Relationships with women is the same. If she can tell you no and walk out that door and get a man as good as you easily she has the power. If you can tell her no and walk away than you have the power.
I tried to do this with my wife and our marriage therapist told me it was manipulative to demand respect and that I have no right to another humans emotions.
I'm divorced
Yeah done blame ya
Why did you go to marriage therapy in the first place?
There are a couple of videos, who speak about the treatment of men by couple therapists.
@@RTSBone just normal issues. Drifting apart, not feeling fulfilled but still in love enough to try. But unfortunately the advice wasn't worth it for me, only her. So I left
@gamer8622 sorry, It was a rhetorical question. As in: you shouldn't have gone in the first place, it's a waste of time, in which the feminist-indoctrinated therapist, demasculinizes or shames the husband...
As a man in 2023, you MUST have enough mental and physical assets to be able to function and grow on your own. A woman must be no more than a nicety. Your life should not be miserable without a woman.
Figured out this the hard way, then learned to love myself ✌🏼
what you mean by nicety? 🙂
@@TFSIChristmas an upgrade . Like putting a turbo on a v8.
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Ive had 3 relationships in 12 years now im single for 2 years and i love it to much i dont need no one if i fall in love and get blind thats something else
Thank you for this… exactly what I’m going through right now. Tomorrow I’m gonna have to put a stop to this.
Until marriage and it all reverts. Better advice: identify the red flags beforehand and instead, just leave. Find someone that knows how to treat someone with love and respect from the start
Women who are blindly loving a man are VERY booooring...
Some people can change with the right guidance and if they are willing to change
This applies to anyone, not just women. If the person disrespects you, walk away.
That should be common sense, but in some cases it's complicated.
Knew people who had bosses that are totale jerks
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If a person disrespects your, make sure you aren't responsible for it . If they still disrespect you then earn it. Only then consider moving on.If you just give up on the first failure like a coward you won't even respect yourself. Much less others
Even if the person is your boss & you can't get a better job?
@@davidz3879 If your boss disrespect you and you can't find another job, it's a great time to rethink your life so you won't be stuck in a toxic work environment moving forward.
Women gatekeep sex. Men gatekeep relationships. Such are the words of Carl Benjamin.
I wouldn't even say the women gatekeep sex. If any woman tries that b.s. with me, i can easily walk away because there's another one ready to give it up.
@@TheBohemianAngelsfr, they have no power over men who can control their sexual urges
Whats gate keep?
We're not allowed to set boundaries because then were called controlling and narcissistic. We're just expected to put up with everything and be the only one accountable.
You see. Setting boundaries is not about being allowed. You just do or you don't.
Very true. Without going into a bunch of detail, I have put this into practice and I have experienced the exact outcome you have described. When they know you mean business it makes a huge difference.
One more thing I'd like to add: My dudes, I know how bad it is to be lonely but do *NOT* settle for less out of desperation. Another advantage that you have offer women is that as long as you can provide something if worth, *you have time on your side*
If you've spent your time making yourself better and more successful instead of having fun, you deserve a woman who makes you feel like royalty. Don't settle for less.
Nailed it!
And speaking from experience, I've done the desperation as well as settling. It never works!
Stay single and work on yourself. Let your glow-up be your light-up.
Absolutely. Loneliness or the fear of being lonely is something we need to get rid of. Women leverage that and string us along. That weakness has never played out well for me. Despite having many experiences with women that level of respect was never quite there.
Interestingly they walk whenever they feel like it leaving us hanging in hoping. For me those days are done.
Spend enough time in relationships with women and i promise youll WANT to stay single.
Learning to be comfortable being alone was the best thing I ever did. Been single 7 or 8 years and it's gonna take a hell of a female to change that lol.
@@vaelthryngaming6432 Bro I think we have to accept that that woman may never come and be okay with that
Having boundaries, making it clear what you will and won’t tolerate and letting your partner know you are willing to walk away is honestly good advice for men and women
☝ Rules are meant to be broken!🎠🎠🎠😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@lots3799 yeah and the partner can see they way out the door 🚪
You create boundaries in business why should a girlfriend not expect the same?
Sounds like a bad relationship to begin with
Yep I got up and left because my boundaries were breached as much as hers! It takes 2 people to mess things up it’s not all ones persons fault!
I found this out in my mid thirties and had a dynamic shift in my marriage. Men are always willing to give in, because it is not worth the hassle. We want peace. By giving in, even when you are right only creates more problems. Women really want men to be men. They don’t want weaklings.
This is why even the trashy masculine women are always screaming "I need a man who can HANDLE me!!" Most of them are fatherless women who legit need a man to HANDLE them because they're essentially children that need a father figure.
Once you realize that this is true of most modern women, you just start treating them like a competent father and they are happy in the relationship. It's only the dudes that hide from problems and try to keep her happy or ignore her altogether that are incapable of maintaining a healthy relationship.
In any relationship, power rests with whoever cares the least.
Yes in doomed relationships that have a a solidified expiration date.
In relationships that benefit all members involved, all parties should help each other maximize their care.
Because if OP statement is applied universal it incentives people to be the one who cares the least and that is very counterproductive to say the least
That's an oversimplification, and assumes the goal of a relationship is to establish ultimate power over the other. It might be more accurate to say that a recurring focus throughout the relationship should be caring intensely about one's own deeper values, priorities, anf boundaries. That's where your own personal power lies. When you get into the games of "I need to care less than my partner", you send the implicit message that the end goal is to compete for status, when in reality it's that competitive mindset you need to flush out of the relationship, USING personal boundaries.
Only do this if you dont care about the relationship, or it has a useful half life.
In a loving relationship, this is how you fuck it up. Act like you dont care if you want, dont be surprised when your wife gets sick of your shit and your kids dont gaf when you die.
@@Mr.Ut21Who said anything about acting. “Cares the least.” I actually feel this statement. It’s not about not actually caring or putting on an act. I will give my all to/for you but will drop you in a flash if you betray me. It’s not a power thing in the sense like the quote suggests. It’s the power of always being self reliant and your partner should know it. I should only need to let that energy be felt one time for you to understand what it is. I’ll be just as fine without you as I am with you. I want you to be a part of my life but if you don’t that’s okay. I am a very loyal person and care deeply but I will always respect myself more. If you’re with someone you don’t actually care about and treat them like shit and remind them of it 24/7… they’re usually the people that are scared to be alone and deserve to be. I will always be good on my own.
@@Mr.Ut21Indeed - no acting required. I have a life of my own, and no woman will ever be able to make me happy. I have to do that myself, and I won't let any woman get in the way. I don't tolerate any antisocial bs.
Now SHE makes sense!!!❤️😊
Same advice for women!! So much power in walking away, and a man understanding they could lose you. It works for both genders. You have to want yourself and your peace more than that shitty relationship.
If she does something that causes you to walk and then she convinces you to come back, then you've lost. If you walk, then you have to stay gone. Respect yourselves out there gentlemen.
Depends, there's can be a second chance, in rarer instance, a third, but that's it.
@@jasondavis3774 never give a bum a 3d chance. That's what they taught us in the Army as leaders. I'd say it applies to relationships moreso.
@@jasondavis3774 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's sometimes a shame but yes; walk. Even if you fancied her ass; Don't let yourself be pussy- whipped.
@@jasondavis3774 There can be no second chance and definitely no third chance. If she can make you flip 180 degrees on such a massive decision as breaking up with someone, then shes going to lose all respect for you. If you actually broke up with her and ended things, you should never get committed to her ever again.
As a man, this is one of the few advice from women that is actually true. I had to walk away from women who were attractive but had horrible personalities. Their attraction skyrocketed when I walked away.
This would been a great advice for a 16 year old me so any 16 old boy watching this: This girl is telling the truth and you should listen to her because it's going to save you a lot of pain.
From someone that learned this lesson the hard way, listen up fellas. It’ll save you so much trouble and heartache.
The mere fact that we have to treat women like children, and keep them in line so they dont cheat, is what has so many men just giving up on relationships.
Ladies, we shouldn't have to keep you in line. That's your job.
Yup,
MGTOW
Well they aren’t raised on how to treat or respect men. They’re raised to know how to use and take advantage of men for their own gain or benefit. For men, it’s the other way around. Men are taught how to treat and "respect women" which means labor and simp for them, and put them on a pedestal. To not take advantage of them or use them. This is why things are the way they are. Society is quick to point out men doing wrong, but not women doing wrong. Women delve into the worst parts of their female nature and are encouraged to do so, where as men are absolutely shamed by society for delving into the worst parts of male nature
@@datboi42 Men aren't shamed for bringing up the bad parts of themselves. men are shamed when they aren't catering to a woman and what she wants.
Amen
This doesn't talk for everyone sick of these stupid video
Exactly. I don’t take shit from a woman. I’m a good guy and respectful. I deserve the same.
Good for youuu..Don't take no shit of nobody. ☝🏻
I hope you have a wife and kids. Honestly if a good man can actually get one, maybe i can too.
@@davidevans7477amen to that
Literally just did this to my girl. Got with her and tolerated a shit ton of the most infantile behavior I've ever seen.
I packed my shit and told her that she needs to improve if I'm coming back.
She immediately went nuts. I gave no ground whatsoever. Just like that, she started acknowledging her behavior.
LOVE her content!! She’s blessing y’all w these vids
Except once married, she gets all the power to walk away with half your stuff even if she was the one at fault
Don't get married then.
Keep the state out of it brother👌
@@Michael18599You can get married just don't sign a marriage certificate. Your written and verbal vows, your rings, your trust, and your witnesses are all you need. Ya don't need the government to recognize it.
If you define marriage as a civil union ordained by the g’ment, you are correct. If by marriage you mean a sacred union ordained by God through hiw devoted followers, which symbolizes Gods love for the church, you are wrong. My unsolicited advice, don’t sign a g’ment contract. However, do have your wife submit to God before you get on your knee and ask her to marry you.
when you're married and you are threatening to walk away at any moment then you're a total loser.
This is true, it is also true that the person who cares the least holds the power in the relationship.
Not true, a person with their own grounded self respect could care more but have the self control and respect to leave if boundaries are breached.😎🖕
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You've basically proven how true it is yourself now😂😂 "could care more"
@@kevinscollan8293 there's a difference between ill intentions and compulsive behavior
No. That's your trauma talking.
Indifference does not equal power.
more like the more attractive partner holds more power. But now a days, it’s just women.
Women want a man with boundaries. Men want a woman who respects boundaries.
Amen now that sums it up perfectly
Mine don't know the meaning about respect ing any boundaries.
This is the absolute truth. I dated this girl who had no dad, had shitty boyfriends her whole life. Then she finally met me, someone with discipline and already established, I had a house and my own business. Moved her in. Took care of her for the first year. Then when she wanted more of a emotional relationship, I was able to adapt and give that to her but that might have been where I made my first mistake. Me letting my guard down no longer made me the leader, now we were "equals" bc I would talk about my feelings more and she used that to push my boundaries to the point where I just broke up with her bc I felt so disrespected.
Took me sixty years and a failed marriage to learn and appreciate this. Thanks for the reminder.
may i ask how old you are now?
@@senseispxctre he’s 61
Same here 60 failed marriage learned over the past 2 yrs how to set boundaries in therapy. Completely different in the way they act. This woman speaks FACTS!!!
@@RR-bh8vd Why are you calling her a woman she's 1 third of your age
It's just a girl
@@senseispxctre Old enough to know better now! And still young enough to learn a better, more assertive way.
The ability to walk away if the contract is broken is a super power everyone should have.
This bit of advice is about all relationships, boundaries are key to respect it’s a two way street. Get to Know, love and respect yourself and then the right people with the same kind of standards will appear in your life.
I really wish this knowledge was taught to me growing up, would have saved a lot of pain.
What a bleak worldview it is to believe that a man's most powerful tool is his absence, his ability to remove himself. It's nothing he brings to the table (strength, stability, compassion), its what he can take away. This is a dark nihilistic hole to avoid. A world where every relationship is a negotiation liable to implode rather than a resilient bond based on love and commitment, what you can give to each other, what you can add to each other's lives and make each other stronger.
This right here. Couldn't have said it better myself.
It's a shame that the people generating all the clicks on relationship advice have reduced them to a power struggle where the man must be a dominating, powerhouse of stoicism to gain respect and commitment from his woman.
Teach morality and values first. Only then can a relationship last.
Of course, being a Christian myself, I would argue that Christian values are a necessity, but I digress.
Yep. Only pathological Narcissists see relationships in terms of relative power.
Translation: DON’T EVER BE A SIMP!!!!
That's not respect.
Thats fear.
Sounds like babysitting
What she means is:
" I'm going to mistreat and disrespect you up to the point you'll tolerate, so don't tolerate an endless amount but I'm never going to stop testing your nerves because I'm a bitch and refuse to treat you the way I want to he treated."
They think the golden rule doesn't apply to them.
They expect to recieve but never give respect.
They'll dish out whatever they can get away with instead of just being decent.
Zero introspection, logic, reason, morals and all those treasured character traits.
They only offer personality, which is fake, duplicitous self-centerd and overly dramatic.
Narcissism and sociopathy are just highlighted feminine traits.
I met a woman on Sunday. I asked her to go on a proper first date on Tuesday because I made a prior business commitment and she acted jealous and thought I was seeing another woman. I had to defend that statement by saying I honor my commitments, do you? I recognize that behavior as controlling and cancelled the date. She signalled DRAMA even before I got her last name. What a relief! Thanks for letting us know when this happens, W. A. L. K .
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When they are non trusting from the get go just means she isn't trustworthy;
I talked w a chick ive just met and when we talked about travel i mentioned an ex gf that i was totally done with from years ago that was a reason for a specific travel, she went oussed and stoooed what was starting very well betwn us. I guess she imagined many things like a big redflag, just because i had an ex and was confortable talking about past.
That was a redflag to me.
She should be worried about how confortable i am now and how my mind is rather than her paranoid suspiscions. I understand her though but
Lol. This made me laugh because I have a personal rule about canceling a first date if I see any red flags
I confirm what she says.... Guys, just be willing to tell her bye if necessary.
Abundance mentality bros....
It really comes down to knowing self first what is best next and lastly showing you're true to yourself and can be her friend because respect has a base (see Proverbs 31 Gods description of the virtuous woman and Psalm 127-128 for God's blessings to grow a family which becomes his family in the kingdom of God when Jesus Christ is sent to rule and bring peace and joy to all nations and families which make up the same - so please see 'Christadelphian videos and Christadelphian bible talks'for excellent learning and greater awareness spiritually and you will be glad if you do speakers worldwide from Australia NewZealand England South Africa and North America great talks about all the subjects you always wanted to understand 😊
Agreed. It only sucks when it doesn't work. Don't get me wrong, it's always the right move, but it still hurts when at that moment you cared more than she did.
Low key thought she was gonna say punching but that’s true too
I can vouch for this. Girlfriend only 2 months in got in an argument with her ex. I didn’t talk to her for 3 days. I’ve never seen someone crawl back like her
you were lucky it was an argument with that ex. Otherwise it might not have been her crawling back ;) If there are no old exes to return to, there are new ones to pick from. Life does not tolerate vacuum
I walked away. She scoffed when I told her she was disrespectful. She also thought “respect” was special treatment like how a mean boss requires you to treat them, so I guess I can’t judge her too harshly since she clearly doesn’t know what respect is 😂
But jeez, that girl had no concept of boundaries, my feelings were a joke to her, and she routinely used me and acted hurt when I expressed how she made me feel.
Sounds like she was just using you. Maybe you didn't walk away soon enough, but good for you for standing up for yourself.
You don't give them multiple chances to respect you if they break your trust once they'll do it again. Make your boundaries clear and if they're broke you give them the boot. Don't be a simp beta cuck boy.
Now you know better. Keep going... the next one will be better . And the next
Sorry dude. You stole my story. 😂
she was using you.
Half of this sounds like obedience training my dog lmao
Family court will make you pay for this
Happened to me couple of months ago, asked a girl out, one day she acted interested the other day she wasn’t she rejected the date and I walked away. She thought I would chase her and beg her that she’s making a mistake, she tried getting my attention but I wasn’t giving it. Oh boy how the tables turned in my favour
I broke off a 7 month relationship via text a few days after a fight with my narcissist ex. I tried to reconcile with a talk after the fight - we set a date, she stonewalled me for a week through the date, then she reached out and said, “Hey, did you want to talk?” I thanked her for the life lessons…blocked her. It was so hard to do, and I cant stop thinking about her (not in a I miss you way)…but it was 100% necessary. So much disrespect in those months…I’m walking out with my dignity.
You did the right thing man yeah it may have hurted a lit but you gained so much more man and I’m happy for you that you dodged a bullet
Shit probably sucked dude im sorry but you just guaranteed yourself someone better in the future
Facts. Strong but reasonable boundaries is key. I have very few, but I vigorously enforce them. Be sure to reciprocate.
a woman loves mind games but when their man plays back they reset very fast
She's absolutely correct! Nothing screams self respect, like having a set of unwavering standards! And a woman will try you where this is concerned!
It’s not about playing by the right set of constraints and games so a woman won’t treat you like shit! It’s about being able to identify the kind of woman that treat men like shit early and staying clear of them and looking for a caring and genuine person.
This!
Nah but all women will disrespect you at some point or another, and then this becomes important. There’s no perfect girl out there. In fact they even will start to disrespect you precisely when they begin to sense that you would under no conditions walk. They want to see that you have dignity and demand respect
It’s horrible that this can even be said. Why can’t a woman just respect a guy without a threat?
That only applies until you get married. Then she owns you.
This woman is 100% correct…….what better way to say “f??k off” than to walk away from someone toxic. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Relationships with women are like buying a used car. Never fall in love with the car, always be able to just walk out of the dealership, and realize there is another deal just down the road at the next dealership. Always always always look under the hood. Always take it for many test drives. Never fall for just shiny paint
Dude, you sound like an absolute virgin. You’re talking about people, not vehicles. If you don’t fall in love then you’re only half living, and you’ll never know true support and joy.
The only aspect of what you’re saying I would somewhat agree with is that you should always let a woman know that there’s something in the world that you care about slightly more than them, be it a passion for sports, cinema, your love for your children, your love for god - whatever your own thing is. Let them know that they can walk before you abandon your passion for that aspect of your life.
That usually helps curb too much of the narcissistic behaviour that SOME women are capable of.
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wow.
For men the same…plus be careful he doesn’t kill u
@@amorepsyche808 lol the actual threat. or r@pe.
She is absolutely right lads. Always make yourself clear about your boundaries and rules and everything. The more she crosses that and the most you say “it’s fine” the more you depreciate and the more of a loser you become. Stand your ground and stand up for what you believe in and all that. If a girl doesn’t like that or doesn’t respect that, walk away. Because if it was the other way around a girl wouldn’t even think about staying. She would just leave. I seen a comment saying well if she was mature enough she wouldn’t be doing that in the first place. That is not the point. The point is that there is constant pressure of women who take on men without them realizing it. I’m 22 years old and I know how girls are these days and I have lived it but I guess older guys and older women sometimes go through that without them realizing it and that’s why there’s relationships that are on and off until someone realizes that it’s just pure nonsense.
Me and my dad were talking about this the other day. We as men need to do a better job at setting boundries for ourselves.
This is so true. Man needs the bad boy ego, that women know if they act wrong you're off.
I live with my wife, doughter and my wife's mother. It was a war in first 3 years and now everyone knows each other. I don't have to pretend in anything I want to say or to do. This lady is rights, you can not be soft, you have to fight with women for yourself and your family. I had a lesson from my uncle: don't listen to them, be yoursef- he said.
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Schooled my brother on this. His ex kept using the old line "I'll stop you seeing the kids". Poor guy was in bits. Told him to let her do it (explained she'd only do it the once, then he'd have the power!). He called her on it. She had the kids for 4 weeks without a break. She was calling him, begging him to have them for a weekend.
Solidddddd 😂
Works flawlessly too.
Having money gives you the ability to walk away.
Avoid low value women that's the message
Honestly good advice. Just tell it like it is flat out early on in the relationship. If they can’t even respect you setting the boundaries they certainly won’t respect the actual boundary being set. You’ll know then whether or not to run for the hills.
if she said it like it was and should be, she would simply say women are their most powerful tool. a good woman on your side til death, is the most powerful thing a man can acquire
Very bad advise. Never settle with a woman like that in the first place!
@@johnbryan2414 - that sounds nice. Finding one today who gives love, respect and joy to her man instead of treating him like a despised inferior is difficult.
Marriage ideally should be a taste of heaven. In 2023 in the US and most western countries, the majority are a bit of hell. Modern Wave 3+ feminism teaches that men are inferior and evil because they are men, period. And that "we" have been holding women back from their potential for thousands of years. Today 80% of husbands feel trapped and miserable with what was supposed to be a loving partner, but isn't.
Good women do exist. But good luck finding one these days.
Good advice but execution is very important… you don’t want to be labeled controlling. If it’s early on, don’t try to change them, just leave. My brother dated this girl that was like 28 clubbing every weekend. He picked up on that after her third weekend in a row of clubbing, asked her about it and she said it was the norm. He said he wasn’t interested in all that. Didn’t bother giving an ultimatum, just left. The point is it’s important to recognize when people just straight up aren’t compatible with you. Setting boundaries with someone that’s already doing something you don’t like is controlling whereas setting boundaries with someone who doesn’t do anything you have a problem with but might be tempted to do stuff you have a problem with or asks for your permission first is perfectly healthy
@@TheIcecreamtaco I somewhat agree but if a girl is interested you can always test your luck. She’ll stop clubbing for the right one. She’s probably ran through if she’s clubbing at 28 but you could still get her into your frame if you were so inclined.
I would add a man's ability to be stoic, calm, & rational when faced with her emotion. Been there many times. The last thing you need is for the both of you to be consumed by emotion.
You are underestimating my other tool
Never let the woman control the dynamic of the relationship
The courts have already given them all the control. Nothing Men can do about it. Period.
Except change the courts.
never let a woman control anything, unless its a kitchen mixer
@@dallasbiggz7007 not entirely true
@@dallasbiggz7007 that’s why you don’t marry them
@@dallasbiggz7007 That's pussy talk. If you can't control a woman, you're not a man. Women are easy as hell. Their natural inclination is to go with the flow. So unless you're being weak and pathetic or hiding from your problems, it's easy to keep a woman well-behaved. It's only weak and timid men who allow themselves to be fucked over.
This can be summarized by: Give em an inch, they'll take a mile
Give em 8" and they'll do anything you want
this is one of the best pieces of advice a men could ever get, embrace this fellas, not just for women, but for life
A person who loves you will never leave you. They're never the dumper. Never ever! It always starts with the other person.
I learned that the hard way. A pretty girl played me bad but it was a good reminder to have boundaries and to look beyond the pretty face.
I didn't threaten to walk away, I just walked and never looked back. You can't scare someone into changing. Walk away and find someone better.
It's a miracle the one and only woman that has all of the answers for her self AND everyone else
A man’s most powerful tool is his very long tongue.
Well, I've done this, and so far, they've just let me walk away. I guess in the end, I walked away with my dignity.
Better to walk away with your dignity than to stay as a doormat
Bingo.
Also, if the end game in mind is to find a lifelong partner, it's better to find out early. If you don't, you'll end up wasting a lot of time.
It works sometimes, other times you just never see them again and you become detached for good. It depends on if the girl was initially attracted to you or not.
Then again if she wasn’t attracted to you to begin with, is it even worth it to prolong the “relationship”?
1000% truth right there. I always walk when boundaries or lines crossed and they always come begging back or at least sent hand note written apologies
She’s dead on. I’ve always been upfront with my principles and not many were down. Only a handful and it was still worth it.