@Buttbanging Trannyliberal Yes for a current time handgun of course. I haded in last time lots of different polymere handguns in my hands. The only one I really was fascinated was the P09. I have tried the P10 but it have much more clearance between grip and slide. Also I must say the P09 I have tested haded a minimal and I mean really a minimal clearance between slide and grip. The one I own have absolutly no clearance between slide and grip. The trigger is much better then from Glock and the manufacturing quality is very high for the price you pay for the P09. For me it also was important to have a poly gun with a outside hammer. So I can load and charge the gun uncharge the hammer and the gun is ready to shoot double action or charging the hammer again for single action. Dont understand me wrong I really have tried Glock but the CZ have convinced me. Otherwise I would not have buyed me a polymere handgun. High Cap is also a reason to recommend it.
The CZ P-07 Duty has been my EDC for almost eight years now. From the CZ P-07 Duty to the P-07 and P-09 pistols they ALL come with the Omega trigger system. The Ohm symbol is not the determining factor. Many people confuse the shape of the trigger to denote that it has the Omega trigger which simply isn't the case. The Omega trigger system is internal and is what also allows you to be able to change over from manual safety to decocker and vice versa. Trigger smoothness between the original ones and the newer ones should be the same, because the only thing that changed is the physical trigger shape. These are excellent pistols! I used to use my P-07 Duty in IDPA competitions and even won my class. You are 100% correct that the P-07 is ideal for EDC - perfect size and weight. An extremely reliable and accurate pistol. Definitely a keeper!
I had a new p10c but sold it last month and I liked it,I got a new 09 tactical today and I absolutely love it. All my other pistols are compact pistols and this is the perfect full size 9mm hammer fired pistol and the s.a pull is 4lbs and I love it. I may look for a shorter stroke trigger but the pull is already great and smooth.
Where do you find your extra magazines? I have looked online and yes, it is 3 years later, but I can't find any in stock. Do you know if other models of CZ or other brands have compatible magazines with the P07?
@@oscarlax5956 I don't know how it works in other countries but when my father was a cop after a few years on the force you can choose a different firearm from an approved list (or go through a tedious approval process). Most cops don't because there usually aren't extra parts/mags, they have to purchase the gun they want to use as opposed to being issued one from the department, or they don't want to go through the hassle of the process. I think his department was using the Smith and Wesson Model 5906 (or the one that comes in. 40) but they allowed him to use a Beretta 92 (he was more familiar with it from his military days) after a few years. It's still more common to see officers with different holsters than pistols though.
I just installed a Mcarbo spring kit and completely disassembled and polished the internals in my P-07 as per the Mcarbo video. Made a great firearm a perfect one!!! One of my favorite guns!
I am a big CZ fan boy ,I own CZ P09 and a CZ 75 compact PCR. I can consistently hit targets at 100 meters with the the Cz P09 and I have witnesses that saw this . Yeah I like CZ"S
I carried Sigs for years, had to carry a Glock for two decades at work and carried a Beretta 92 when I worked for INS and in the military. I just bought two CZs last year, a P07 and a P01 Omega. I’m really having trouble seeing myself go to anything else besides a CZ. The ergonomics, accuracy and reliability are top notch.
Nothing against the 07, but I love my 09. CZ makes a highly reliable unit. I like the de-cocker mode, which comes out of the box, but I like it because it is the safety version with that 1/8 stoppage. Almost better than cock & lock. Love this gun, just finding it hard to find fuel due to the mine closures. 21 yards centered over 60%. Love this gun.
Just bought the cz75 compact and cz p09...I own walther pdp, glocks, hk p30, m&p 2.0, Fn 509, and both cz destroys them all. My favorite brand now for sure! The hype was real
I like the way CZs shoot. I bought my first CZ well over two decades ago. However, I have concluded that the inside riding slide reduces the gripping area, and under stress drill I had my hand slip a few times without full malfunction clearance. I now prefer a more traditional slide-over-the-frame layout, like Glock, S&W, or 1911.
Length matters. I have the P-07 with Suppressor Ready with 17rd magazines, and P-09 Suppressor Ready with 21 rd magazines . And the addiction continues -- just added a P10F Optic Ready & Suppressor Ready with 21 rd magazines. Like Martha Stewart says- "full size is a good thing". Love your stable reviews 👍👍
I just bought a brand spanking new CZ p-07 (omega) for $450 at Bass Pro Shops yesterday. Its been a pistol ive wanted for many years and I love it. I just could never find one that wasnt gonna cost 900 to 1000 bucks after transfers and FLL crap. I put this one in my hand , and walked out the same day. Great buying experience and I love the old school "fighting gun" feel it has.
@@kylebar724 I'm so torn. IDK if I should get the arex zero 1 tc in grey or the tactical p07 in grey. I like them both equally by the 07 isn't optic ready. Ugh decisions decisions
I noticed that the mag you have for the p07 is the newer style. When I bought mine soon after the non-duty version was released, the mag baseplates fit the grip profile better than the new mags that also fit the P10C
I really never understood the love affair with glock.. i remember buying a g17 and a cz75b at the same time and being so dissapointed with the accuracy and controllability of the glock compared to the CZ.. then i tried the polymer cz's and was equally impressed. Theyre about as fine a handgun as ive ever owned and im including a few pretty pricey guns in that list
@@doubleugly1594 Well, as much as I like my CZ, I did keep my G43 w/ +2 mags for summer carry and it is amazingly accurate for a 3.1 barrel. At 5-7 yds, it gets an inch and a half group!!
I noticed the beveling is a little different in the back of the P-09. I have my carry needs well covered, so I think I'm leaning towards a P-09 with a threaded barrel which, from what I can tell, would probably add about 40 fps in velocity. That's not a lot, but if I don't need it to carry, I might as well get my 9mm's a little closer to my .357 SIG. The extra sight radius is nice as well (unless I add an optic).
Just to clarify, the P07 first gen was the P07 Duty and it did have the Omega trigger system. Between the P07 Duty and the second gen P07(2014 and newer) all CZ did was change the trigger shoe shape.
I don’t own a cz but I own a Jericho 941 F9 steel. Based on the cz75. I love that gun so accurate with it! Only 2 I would consider for me is P10C or the actual cz75
I noticed on the p-07 barrel the muzzle profile is more of a flat crown than that from the p-09 barrel. I have both the p07 and the p09 and a major difference in muzzle shape.
I shot a Cz P-07 the other day at the range for the first time,and fell in love.I have to say,what an amazing gun,and trigger.I really think the trigger is a big selling point for me.I think I would go with the P-09,because I want more of a full sized gun.I really wouldn’t be opposed to owning either.I am sure both are just as good!!!!
I shot glock for so many years really liked them and shot well a friend of mine was border patrol and always carried a sig p229,and always advocated the da sa setup, so it's been on my mind as a pretty good idea. Another buddy of mine had a p07 that I shot and I fell in love. I think the next day I picked up a p09 as I like full size gun for edc it shot so well I bought another (basic gun math two is better than one ) I think this summer I'll get a p07 or the p01 these are such sweet shooters I am digging cz
Hey H/S! Nice review. Love all my CZ’s. Many swear by the P-07. I have huge hands, so the P-09 is a better fit for me. The P-07 is certainly better suited for concealed carry. Great pistols. Reliable and accurate, plus reasonably priced.
Mine (CZ P-09) has been rock solid. It's a well built and durable pistol. The magazines are of very good quality also. It's a solid duty pistol and makes for a good home defense choice too.
Nice comparison.. I thought you would like the p07 a little better. I own one also and have nothing but good to say about it. One thing you should've added was, if you buy one new the tendency of feed issues. Its a really tight gun and it takes a couple hundred rnds to get it broken in. After the first clean/lube i had no feed issues using multiple types of 9mm ammo.
Own and carry a P-07 Duty, loved the gun from the moment I got it, I also got it with the .22lr conversion for shooting cans in the range since it's fun but keep it on the 9mm for carry. My brother also loved it although he carries a FN.
Great informative content on your video. Because a guy doesn't want the CZ PO7 first generation. The second generation has fixed and updated everything that was wrong with the first ones.
I wint with the P07 as I all ready have a P10F, C,S, 75B and a Shadow 2. Sold a SIG P320C. The CZ is a much better option. I payed $449 for 1 with the threaded barrel and the sites for running a can they are the night sites. That was on 10/15/2020
I already have a P10F, -S, and -C as well. Recently found a P07, and it may become my EDC (the -S had been, until I got the -C). I'm enjoying that the magazines are so interchangeable (with the caveat that the -S magazine won't fit in the longer grips of the -C or -F, etc.). I can have LOTS of rounds with fewer magazines while carrying the smaller gun...
The slide being inside the frame could possibly make the slide a little lighter, which may help with recoil, but the bore axis is not actually lower due to the slide being inside the frame.
You are right. Flipping the rail from inside to outside doesn't change the height of the bore. Also, the inside railed slide means the amount of slide above the frame is reduced when contrasted with outside railed slides. CZ has very shallow amount of frame to grab when cycling slide by hand.
I'm looking at mine right now, the barrel is inside the slide and with the slide inside the frame it's actually down lower and the grip with the beavertail you can really get close to the slide as far as the smaller slide height I've not had much trouble racking the slide the slide serrations are really aggressive
P-09 gumps higher after each shot,because of longer slide and barrel,wich both have a little more weght,and this additional weght helps the pistol p-09 to gump higher than p-07. So,for home protection the p-07 is better,because of short distance in home,wich means you will need to fire very fast,and because of not very high barrel gump,the bullets will go in one place. The p-09 is nice for long range and not fast shoting.
Why does everyone say CZs have a low bore axis?? They really don't compared to glocks since you can't grip as high on the frame due to the hammer and beavertail. The softer recoil impulse is due to less reciprocating mass in the slides
Thank you for making this video. I enjoyed watching it. You are a lucky guy to have both a p09 and a p07. I do have to disagree with one thing you said though. Having the slide rails ride inside the frame instead of outside the frame does not lower the bore axis. CZ doesn't even claim this. From the CZ website - "Slide-in-frame design for better recoil control".
Put a decocker/safety into the same lever. Then we don't have to choose. The two features belong together. Problem solved. Train to swipe the safety down on the draw and to decock/reapply the safety when reholstering. Problem solved. I don't trust heavy DA triggers to be as safe as a safety. Further, I want a sensitive trigger and the ability to choose between DA/SA on the first shot, so I need the hammer down, safety engaged in holster to tame that trigger. Third, I want the hammer decocked and safety reapplied prior to reholstering. Problem solved. P07 could lose 1-1.5" in length to make it better for concealed carry. Big guns. Few features. High cost. Nice ergonomics. Nice quality control and capacity. Four years later, we're still perfecting fully featured DA/SA, integrated safety/decocker, 10+ round micro sized all metal guns. All I'm basically looking for is a double stack 9mm Walther PPK/S--very old design. I shouldn't have to pay HK prices just to have a decocker/manual safety in one switch, at least as an option. My 90s .40 S&W Bersa Thunder had these safety/decocker DA/SA features in a 7.5" 13+1 compact gun 30 years ago. It isn't hard to do. It's just market demand. Polymer striker fired micro 9s have slowed innovation in the micro 9 DA/SA manual safety/decocker hammer fired market. It's a shame for those of us who prefer higher quality pistols than whatever companies can copy from Glock and Sig in their striker fired poly concealed carry micro 9 segments.
@@HammerStriker happy Friday, how about comparing the new Jericho Enhanced to the veteran Jericho 941F? And what pistol would you compare a Bul Armory SAS II ultra light to?
Actually there isn't much difference in the length to be honest, I own the P07 and I thought I should have bought the P09, but as it's not much longer it makes no difference now.
Great vid !!!!!!!! Hoping you can give me some advice. So I have a P-07 and it's loaded at all times. so I was showing this gun to my friend and I removed the fully loaded magazine. I racked the slide to eject the bullet from the chamber and IT DOES NOT EJECT. I haven't been able to go to the range to at least get the bullet out. what say you !!!!!!!!!!!
This is a very dangerous situation - most likely the round "skipped the extractor" either because the case is jammed or the extractor is damaged. There are some steps to resolve this but the risk of an unintended discharge while doing so is high if you don't know exactly what to do. If you don't already know how to do it, I would suggest you engage the safety or use the docker (depending upon how it is set up), put it in a case without the magazine, take it to the gunsmith in the case, tell him without removing it from the case the situation (make sure he knows it is chambered and that the extractor is not removing the round) and let him resolve it for you. I hesitate to try to list the steps because a single mistake can result in injury or death. Make sure to keep it pointed in a safe direction the entire time you are handling it.
Great comparison video, exactly what i was looking for. Question, for those that want to upgrade their triggers on their P07 which trigger version would give you the most options for upgrading, regular or Omega?
Bore axis isn’t really lowered, just slide mass above the bore. If you measure from the beavertail to the firing pin (bore) it’s comparable to most other hammer fired guns. I like the P07/09, I just prefer the traditional cz’s more. I wish cz would have made the p01 phantom when they made the sp01 phantom. I guess the weight saving from aluminum to polymer wouldn’t have been that great though.
I partially agree, but the firing pin axis is lower than it is on either my SIG P229 or my Beretta PX4 Storm. It's just that a lot of people exaggerate this feature as if it brings it down to the bore axis of a striker-fired gun like a Glock (but it does not). I don't know of any hammer guns with the bore axis quite as low as on a CZ, but you're right. It is not a low bore axis, it is just a low bore axis for a hammer-fired gun in my opinion.
Forum and Brim my HK’s and Cz’s have roughly the same bore axis with the edge slightly going to the Cz’s. The slide being shorter gives that illusion. You’re right though, it’s a low bore axis for a hammer fired gun. However, even high bore axis striker fired pistols like my sig p320 has a lower bore axis than my cz p01 and 75B
I admit to being a Sig / Ruger fan…… Bought a CZ P-07 a couple of months ago……and did NOT like it…!! Double action was gritty…..and I have NO idea where the rounds went ! I cross a river on my way home…….and thought about tossing it…. When I cleaned it, I noticed the rear sight was clearly not centered….. Decided to put an XS sight on it…….and run a few more rounds through it. Really glad I did ! Completely different gun…..and, in fact, it is a dead heat for my favorite 9mm. ( the other is my Sig M-11 A-1. )
I hate it when people compare guns to glocks in terms of size. I hate Glock. Never had one. Never will. I don’t know the names and sizes of Glocks so when people say it’s the size of a Glock 19, I have no fuckin clue what that means. Stop doing that. Pick something other then Glock
I’m a gun nut. Bored and started looking into CZ. Now I want the P-07 , P-09, P-10c, and P-10f in that order starting next week
Me and my P09 sitting infront of the screen and watching a video about P07 and P09. Thumb up, subscribed & cheers.
Thank you.
@Buttbanging Trannyliberal Yes for a current time handgun of course. I haded in last time lots of different polymere handguns in my hands. The only one I really was fascinated was the P09. I have tried the P10 but it have much more clearance between grip and slide. Also I must say the P09 I have tested haded a minimal and I mean really a minimal clearance between slide and grip. The one I own have absolutly no clearance between slide and grip. The trigger is much better then from Glock and the manufacturing quality is very high for the price you pay for the P09. For me it also was important to have a poly gun with a outside hammer. So I can load and charge the gun uncharge the hammer and the gun is ready to shoot double action or charging the hammer again for single action. Dont understand me wrong I really have tried Glock but the CZ have convinced me. Otherwise I would not have buyed me a polymere handgun. High Cap is also a reason to recommend it.
The CZ P-07 Duty has been my EDC for almost eight years now.
From the CZ P-07 Duty to the P-07 and P-09 pistols they ALL come with the Omega trigger system. The Ohm symbol is not the determining factor. Many people confuse the shape of the trigger to denote that it has the Omega trigger which simply isn't the case. The Omega trigger system is internal and is what also allows you to be able to change over from manual safety to decocker and vice versa.
Trigger smoothness between the original ones and the newer ones should be the same, because the only thing that changed is the physical trigger shape.
These are excellent pistols!
I used to use my P-07 Duty in IDPA competitions and even won my class.
You are 100% correct that the P-07 is ideal for EDC - perfect size and weight. An extremely reliable and accurate pistol.
Definitely a keeper!
I had a new p10c but sold it last month and I liked it,I got a new 09 tactical today and I absolutely love it.
All my other pistols are compact pistols and this is the perfect full size 9mm hammer fired pistol and the s.a pull is 4lbs and I love it.
I may look for a shorter stroke trigger but the pull is already great and smooth.
Agreed P10 polymer felt a bit too cheap to be real when compared to other competitors I just hope they follow through with rmr mount slides
I just picked up the P-07 a few weeks ago. I've run several hundred rounds through it already. I love this pistol.
Where do you find your extra magazines? I have looked online and yes, it is 3 years later, but I can't find any in stock. Do you know if other models of CZ or other brands have compatible magazines with the P07?
P07 is my service pistol. Very nice for me. French cop.
I thought the french police had Sig Sauers as standard, are you able to pick your own service weapon?
@@oscarlax5956 I don't know how it works in other countries but when my father was a cop after a few years on the force you can choose a different firearm from an approved list (or go through a tedious approval process). Most cops don't because there usually aren't extra parts/mags, they have to purchase the gun they want to use as opposed to being issued one from the department, or they don't want to go through the hassle of the process. I think his department was using the Smith and Wesson Model 5906 (or the one that comes in. 40) but they allowed him to use a Beretta 92 (he was more familiar with it from his military days) after a few years. It's still more common to see officers with different holsters than pistols though.
@@oscarlax5956 I'm in police municipale not nationale. Nationale with Sig
@@nekto8810 great choice, I have the P-07 and P-09 (as a civilian) and they are both fantastic guns
Jai les 2, le 7 est super. Le 9 que des emmerdent avec . suis que jaime le mieux est le phantom !
My first semi auto handgun is a P-09. I carry it everywhere, and I love it.
Me too, better than advertised lol
For sure, I've had 100% reliability so far! But I fell in love with mine when I got my first look at it. I just think they're beautiful guns.
Did you carry a revolver before? If you did, which one was it?
i carry mine often!! its a really good shooter
@@JacksonWalter735 I didn't carry it, but I did have a Tex 22, about ten years ago.
I just installed a Mcarbo spring kit and completely disassembled and polished the internals in my P-07 as per the Mcarbo video. Made a great firearm a perfect one!!! One of my favorite guns!
P09 is my every day carry, dont leave home without it. Prefer full size
Me too😍
I am a big CZ fan boy ,I own CZ P09 and a CZ 75 compact PCR. I can consistently hit targets at 100 meters with the the Cz P09 and I have witnesses that saw this . Yeah I like CZ"S
I carried Sigs for years, had to carry a Glock for two decades at work and carried a Beretta 92 when I worked for INS and in the military. I just bought two CZs last year, a P07 and a P01 Omega. I’m really having trouble seeing myself go to anything else besides a CZ. The ergonomics, accuracy and reliability are top notch.
Another nice review. To the point and informative. The P07 is one of my favorite pistols and one that I will never sell. Thank you for the video!
Thank you.
@@HammerStriker hi, which has more recoil between the cz P07 and P09
lucky im having a helluva time finding one in my area lol
im looking to replace my canik tp9 combat elite to carry a p07
Nothing against the 07, but I love my 09. CZ makes a highly reliable unit. I like the de-cocker mode, which comes out of the box, but I like it because it is the safety version with that 1/8 stoppage. Almost better than cock & lock. Love this gun, just finding it hard to find fuel due to the mine closures. 21 yards centered over 60%. Love this gun.
Just bought the cz75 compact and cz p09...I own walther pdp, glocks, hk p30, m&p 2.0, Fn 509, and both cz destroys them all. My favorite brand now for sure! The hype was real
I like the way CZs shoot. I bought my first CZ well over two decades ago. However, I have concluded that the inside riding slide reduces the gripping area, and under stress drill I had my hand slip a few times without full malfunction clearance. I now prefer a more traditional slide-over-the-frame layout, like Glock, S&W, or 1911.
I agree. No grip surface
I've the P07 .40 i love this gun, i'm very happy with the purchase.
Length matters.
I have the P-07 with Suppressor Ready with 17rd magazines, and P-09 Suppressor Ready with 21 rd magazines .
And the addiction continues -- just added a P10F Optic Ready & Suppressor Ready with 21 rd magazines.
Like Martha Stewart says- "full size is a good thing". Love your stable reviews 👍👍
I just bought a brand spanking new CZ p-07 (omega) for $450 at Bass Pro Shops yesterday. Its been a pistol ive wanted for many years and I love it. I just could never find one that wasnt gonna cost 900 to 1000 bucks after transfers and FLL crap. I put this one in my hand , and walked out the same day. Great buying experience and I love the old school "fighting gun" feel it has.
Love my 07 Omega....Eventually will get the 09 Omega as well.
P07 was my first ever firearm and I absolutely love it
Got it cerekoted and optic milled
How much was the milling and who did it for ya?
Thinking about getting the arex cause it already has the milled slide
@@TheDkb427 i did it from Jagerwerks. The mill was 125 for a holosun 120 for the cerakote i did.(multi color)
@@kylebar724 I'm so torn. IDK if I should get the arex zero 1 tc in grey or the tactical p07 in grey. I like them both equally by the 07 isn't optic ready. Ugh decisions decisions
@@TheDkb427 i guess it starts with what do you use them for? Carry? Just range shooting?. I personally don't know much about Arex
Great video sir. I like both of those pistols.
Thank you.
I noticed that the mag you have for the p07 is the newer style. When I bought mine soon after the non-duty version was released, the mag baseplates fit the grip profile better than the new mags that also fit the P10C
I have a CZ 75b, a P07 and a 97b. I love them all. My P07 is my only polymer pistol and the only one I will ever own.
I have the 07 Duty and love it. I shoot it more accurately than all my pistols. It has a great trigger. I'd love to get an SP01.
Same here! But they're quite hard to find where i live..
Sold my G17 and G19...Now I own both the P07 Gen 1 and the P09. The P07 is a great carry gun!
Why sold Glocks? Thanks
I really never understood the love affair with glock.. i remember buying a g17 and a cz75b at the same time and being so dissapointed with the accuracy and controllability of the glock compared to the CZ.. then i tried the polymer cz's and was equally impressed. Theyre about as fine a handgun as ive ever owned and im including a few pretty pricey guns in that list
@@doubleugly1594 Well, as much as I like my CZ, I did keep my G43 w/ +2 mags for summer carry and it is amazingly accurate for a 3.1 barrel. At 5-7 yds, it gets an inch and a half group!!
I noticed the beveling is a little different in the back of the P-09. I have my carry needs well covered, so I think I'm leaning towards a P-09 with a threaded barrel which, from what I can tell, would probably add about 40 fps in velocity. That's not a lot, but if I don't need it to carry, I might as well get my 9mm's a little closer to my .357 SIG. The extra sight radius is nice as well (unless I add an optic).
Just to clarify, the P07 first gen was the P07 Duty and it did have the Omega trigger system. Between the P07 Duty and the second gen P07(2014 and newer) all CZ did was change the trigger shoe shape.
Have had a P-07 Duty since 2010. Great pistol. Would really enjoy the P-09 with its longer sight radius when at the range shooting for recreation.
I don’t own a cz but I own a Jericho 941 F9 steel. Based on the cz75. I love that gun so accurate with it! Only 2 I would consider for me is P10C or the actual cz75
My suppressor ready p07 puts in the work. With the comp, it has BB gun-like control
I noticed on the p-07 barrel the muzzle profile is more of a flat crown than that from the p-09 barrel. I have both the p07 and the p09 and a major difference in muzzle shape.
I normally shoot Sigs but I love the low bore axis on these, it's down in line with where you're pointing.
I shot a Cz P-07 the other day at the range for the first time,and fell in love.I have to say,what an amazing gun,and trigger.I really think the trigger is a big selling point for me.I think I would go with the P-09,because I want more of a full sized gun.I really wouldn’t be opposed to owning either.I am sure both are just as good!!!!
I shot glock for so many years really liked them and shot well a friend of mine was border patrol and always carried a sig p229,and always advocated the da sa setup, so it's been on my mind as a pretty good idea. Another buddy of mine had a p07 that I shot and I fell in love. I think the next day I picked up a p09 as I like full size gun for edc it shot so well I bought another (basic gun math two is better than one ) I think this summer I'll get a p07 or the p01 these are such sweet shooters I am digging cz
Well made video and informative. Thank you
Thank you.
I’m a big CZ fan. Love my P07 omega.
Hey H/S! Nice review. Love all my CZ’s. Many swear by the P-07. I have huge hands, so the P-09 is a better fit for me. The P-07 is certainly better suited for concealed carry. Great pistols. Reliable and accurate, plus reasonably priced.
Thank you.
Mine (CZ P-09) has been rock solid. It's a well built and durable pistol. The magazines are of very good quality also. It's a solid duty pistol and makes for a good home defense choice too.
Nice comparison.. I thought you would like the p07 a little better. I own one also and have nothing but good to say about it. One thing you should've added was, if you buy one new the tendency of feed issues. Its a really tight gun and it takes a couple hundred rnds to get it broken in. After the first clean/lube i had no feed issues using multiple types of 9mm ammo.
Got me a P09 and P10F. Both amazing pistols. Going to get my hands on a P07. Love hammer fired pistols DA/SA is in my opinion a superior way to carry.
Own and carry a P-07 Duty, loved the gun from the moment I got it, I also got it with the .22lr conversion for shooting cans in the range since it's fun but keep it on the 9mm for carry.
My brother also loved it although he carries a FN.
Great informative content on your video. Because a guy doesn't want the CZ PO7 first generation. The second generation has fixed and updated everything that was wrong with the first ones.
Very good review. Thank you.
Thank you.
I wint with the P07 as I all ready have a P10F, C,S, 75B and a Shadow 2. Sold a SIG P320C. The CZ is a much better option.
I payed $449 for 1 with the threaded barrel and the sites for running a can they are the night sites. That was on 10/15/2020
I already have a P10F, -S, and -C as well. Recently found a P07, and it may become my EDC (the -S had been, until I got the -C).
I'm enjoying that the magazines are so interchangeable (with the caveat that the -S magazine won't fit in the longer grips of the -C or -F, etc.). I can have LOTS of rounds with fewer magazines while carrying the smaller gun...
Miss my p07
The slide being inside the frame could possibly make the slide a little lighter, which may help with recoil, but the bore axis is not actually lower due to the slide being inside the frame.
You are right. Flipping the rail from inside to outside doesn't change the height of the bore. Also, the inside railed slide means the amount of slide above the frame is reduced when contrasted with outside railed slides. CZ has very shallow amount of frame to grab when cycling slide by hand.
I'm looking at mine right now, the barrel is inside the slide and with the slide inside the frame it's actually down lower and the grip with the beavertail you can really get close to the slide as far as the smaller slide height I've not had much trouble racking the slide the slide serrations are really aggressive
I love my CZ P-07 I like everything about it…Period!!
Awesome! Thank you!
I preferred the rounded hammer of Duty models
Great video! Thank you!
P-09 gumps higher after each shot,because of longer slide and barrel,wich both have a little more weght,and this additional weght helps the pistol p-09 to gump higher than p-07. So,for home protection the p-07 is better,because of short distance in home,wich means you will need to fire very fast,and because of not very high barrel gump,the bullets will go in one place. The p-09 is nice for long range and not fast shoting.
Good video and info. CZ needs to step up and offer plate options on these.
Thank you.
Great content! Thank you.
I don't think I would consider either one of those concealed carry so would probably go with the p 09
I just need one, I want them both, I live in CA, can't have them at all 💔
CZ p07 & p09 I like them both looking forward to buy CZ P10F 45 Auto
I wish CZ would give us a Poly Compact with a Decocker. Preferably a lil bit smaller than the P01. Maybe a poly PCRD
Why does everyone say CZs have a low bore axis?? They really don't compared to glocks since you can't grip as high on the frame due to the hammer and beavertail. The softer recoil impulse is due to less reciprocating mass in the slides
my EDC is the HKvp9 and its one of if not he best striker.... i wanted a full size gun and it needed to be hammered. i ended up with the p09!
Thanks good job great shooter both😊
Excellent combat handguns! CZ is king.
what you are calling the ohm sign is actually the Greek letter for Omega
Thank you
Thank you for making this video. I enjoyed watching it. You are a lucky guy to have both a p09 and a p07. I do have to disagree with one thing you said though. Having the slide rails ride inside the frame instead of outside the frame does not lower the bore axis. CZ doesn't even claim this. From the CZ website - "Slide-in-frame design for better recoil control".
Honestly, I don’t know how you could say this. I own a CZ75 SP01 and a Sig 2022. Clearly the CZ’s bore axis is lower than the Sig’s.
I would like to amend my statement...you are correct. I was considering the height of the slide...not the bore of the barrel.
I've got the sp01 too. What a great pistol! The p09 is on my short list.
can the magazines of CZ P09 can be used in P07?
What about the supressor ready versions?
I am debating between the p07 or p09. I am a armed security officer and want to use it as a duty gun plus I want to carry it off duty for my p07
Put a decocker/safety into the same lever. Then we don't have to choose. The two features belong together. Problem solved.
Train to swipe the safety down on the draw and to decock/reapply the safety when reholstering. Problem solved.
I don't trust heavy DA triggers to be as safe as a safety. Further, I want a sensitive trigger and the ability to choose between DA/SA on the first shot, so I need the hammer down, safety engaged in holster to tame that trigger. Third, I want the hammer decocked and safety reapplied prior to reholstering. Problem solved.
P07 could lose 1-1.5" in length to make it better for concealed carry.
Big guns. Few features. High cost. Nice ergonomics. Nice quality control and capacity.
Four years later, we're still perfecting fully featured DA/SA, integrated safety/decocker, 10+ round micro sized all metal guns. All I'm basically looking for is a double stack 9mm Walther PPK/S--very old design.
I shouldn't have to pay HK prices just to have a decocker/manual safety in one switch, at least as an option.
My 90s .40 S&W Bersa Thunder had these safety/decocker DA/SA features in a 7.5" 13+1 compact gun 30 years ago. It isn't hard to do. It's just market demand.
Polymer striker fired micro 9s have slowed innovation in the micro 9 DA/SA manual safety/decocker hammer fired market.
It's a shame for those of us who prefer higher quality pistols than whatever companies can copy from Glock and Sig in their striker fired poly concealed carry micro 9 segments.
Liked before watching haha.
Thank you. I hope you still like it after watching :-)
@@HammerStriker happy Friday, how about comparing the new Jericho Enhanced to the veteran Jericho 941F? And what pistol would you compare a Bul Armory SAS II ultra light to?
@@HammerStriker Definitely!
Actually there isn't much difference in the length to be honest, I own the P07 and I thought I should have bought the P09, but as it's not much longer it makes no difference now.
Do they feel different in the hand like a Glock 19 and Glock 17 do?
Is there any way to fix a cz 75 p07 duty pistol trigger that is too deep expert
Both fantastic handguns
Great vid !!!!!!!! Hoping you can give me some advice. So I have a P-07 and it's loaded at all times. so I was showing this gun to my friend and I removed the fully loaded magazine. I racked the slide to eject the bullet from the chamber and IT DOES NOT EJECT. I haven't been able to go to the range to at least get the bullet out. what say you !!!!!!!!!!!
This is a very dangerous situation - most likely the round "skipped the extractor" either because the case is jammed or the extractor is damaged. There are some steps to resolve this but the risk of an unintended discharge while doing so is high if you don't know exactly what to do. If you don't already know how to do it, I would suggest you engage the safety or use the docker (depending upon how it is set up), put it in a case without the magazine, take it to the gunsmith in the case, tell him without removing it from the case the situation (make sure he knows it is chambered and that the extractor is not removing the round) and let him resolve it for you. I hesitate to try to list the steps because a single mistake can result in injury or death. Make sure to keep it pointed in a safe direction the entire time you are handling it.
Where ca i get the .22 conversion kit for any CZ
The 07!!!!
I asked, VSCCY: DVG no red dot, Compared to the SCCYCPX2
Great comparison video, exactly what i was looking for. Question, for those that want to upgrade their triggers on their P07 which trigger version would give you the most options for upgrading, regular or Omega?
Either one. Cajun Works is your best bet for upgrading your trigger.
love them both
The P07 fits in the p09 holster?
Not easy conversion to safety. Parts fly out everywhere
How are the grips on the 07? Does your pinky feel like it's hanging on?
Bore axis isn’t really lowered, just slide mass above the bore. If you measure from the beavertail to the firing pin (bore) it’s comparable to most other hammer fired guns. I like the P07/09, I just prefer the traditional cz’s more. I wish cz would have made the p01 phantom when they made the sp01 phantom. I guess the weight saving from aluminum to polymer wouldn’t have been that great though.
I partially agree, but the firing pin axis is lower than it is on either my SIG P229 or my Beretta PX4 Storm. It's just that a lot of people exaggerate this feature as if it brings it down to the bore axis of a striker-fired gun like a Glock (but it does not). I don't know of any hammer guns with the bore axis quite as low as on a CZ, but you're right. It is not a low bore axis, it is just a low bore axis for a hammer-fired gun in my opinion.
Forum and Brim my HK’s and Cz’s have roughly the same bore axis with the edge slightly going to the Cz’s. The slide being shorter gives that illusion. You’re right though, it’s a low bore axis for a hammer fired gun. However, even high bore axis striker fired pistols like my sig p320 has a lower bore axis than my cz p01 and 75B
That's totally correct. The feature that should be emphasized though is the ability to ride the weak hand/thumb way higher than usual in other frames.
Slide rail design seems not connected to bore axis height to me.
Great review. Other videos are way too long.
CZ amazing tools thanks for the vdeo 👍👌 excellent
Thank you.
Hello between the CZ P09 and the S&W MP9 2.0 FULL, which is better?
M&P got more aftermarket support, go with the one you're leaning towards more. Then get the other 1 later if u want
I shot a mp .40 compact better than my p07 9mm in their first outings, so a 9mm should shoot way nicer
I admit to being a Sig / Ruger fan……
Bought a CZ P-07 a couple of months ago……and did NOT like it…!!
Double action was gritty…..and I have NO idea where the rounds went !
I cross a river on my way home…….and thought about tossing it….
When I cleaned it, I noticed the rear sight was clearly not centered…..
Decided to put an XS sight on it…….and run a few more rounds through it.
Really glad I did !
Completely different gun…..and, in fact, it is a dead heat for my favorite 9mm.
( the other is my Sig M-11 A-1. )
1:22 Lol. You literally just called the big one bitey
trusting a mechanical decocker is always gonna be scary for me, I'd rather decock it myself and have a safety
The OHM sign is an...um...Omega...The final letter in the Greek alphabet.
Both are amazing guns! CZ rocks! Czech quality! :)
Cz p09 vs Walther pdp 5”
It does not lower the bore axis! Mt taurus has a lower bore axis did you check or just parrot others
PO9 is my best buddy all the way
Wish I could find those P07 right now for sale men. They are sold out everywhere
You still looking for one?
@@NYG5 I got a P09 Tactical instead
The decocker will absolutely drop the hammer all the way. Yours may be a bit sticky out of the box
you should name these pistols "Hight right" and "Low left" . :-)
I use a Glock when I want "dead-center". :-)
10lb pull on CZ 09
I’d go p09 between the two🔥 they ain’t pretty tho…
Why compare these two, they're the same pistol one is just the full size !
I hate it when people compare guns to glocks in terms of size. I hate Glock. Never had one. Never will. I don’t know the names and sizes of Glocks so when people say it’s the size of a Glock 19, I have no fuckin clue what that means. Stop doing that. Pick something other then Glock