Android without Google: the Murena - /e/ Project blew me away!

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  • I've been trying to degoogle my life as much as possible lately, but there are 2 main holdouts: youtube, and Android. While I still haven't found a competent enough youtube alternative, apart maybe from LBRY, I might just have found the Android replacement I was looking for! Let's take a look at the /e/ operating system !
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    What is /e/ - Murena
    "e" is a nonprofit project, backed by the /e/ foundation. Its goal is to provide a compeltely de-googled version of Android. This is in the strictest sense, as anything that might call to Google has been plucked out of the operating system: the google services, app store, default applications, even the time server and DNS have been changed.
    The /e/ operating system is the result: it can be installed on a lot of Android smartphones, from a fairly wide selection of manufacturers, or you can order a refurbished smartphone from the /e/ website More recently, /e/ has become available on the Fairphone 3 as well, which you can buy preinstalled with /e/ from their online store.
    Gael also told me that the PinePhone might be a target at some point, and they already had a port for the PineBook.
    /e/ account
    As you won't be using any Google services, the /e/ project feels that you also need a few services for day to day use, that's why they provide you with a free /e/ account. This is basically your own user account on the /e/ project's Nextcloud, with an email address that ends in e.email, as well as contacts, a calendar, some file storage, photos, and tasks.
    In term of features, the /e/ team is also working on End to End encryption, which is proving tricky to implement, as well as the ability to self host the /e/ online services if you want to have as much storage space as you'd like and control your data 100%.
    They also have an SMS to cloud feature that allows you to keep your messages when you change phones, and are working on the ability to let users log their geolocation in the cloud if they want to, to be able to find their device if it gets lost or stolen.
    The /e/ OS experience
    The /e/ OS is very inspired by iOS in terms of look and feel, out of the box. You get a default grid of icons, some widgets when you swipe left, no standard Android app drawer, and a global search if you swipe from the top.
    The OS ships with default apps for everything you might need out of the box, and all of these apps are open source, just like the OS itself.
    Most of these are forks of other open source applications, for example, the web browser is a de-googled fork of Chromium, the mail client is a fork of K-9, the camera is a fork of OpenCamera...
    Some apps are the default Android applications, like the contact, clock, calculator, keyboard, or gallery, and some are just preinstalled apps available anywhere alse, like MagicEarth for maps, PDFViewer Plus for PDFs, or OpenTasks for the todo list.
    Using these applications, you also won't help but notice the Android roots behind them: older tab bars, three dot menus and pop-ups abound, and look like the stuff you'd have been using on an Android Kit Kat smartphone. This doesn't mean they're bad, but it does look a bit dated compared to the smooth interfaces of today. Some might prefer this older style, but I know I don't.
    But why would you prefer /e/ over another Android custom ROM ? Well, as Gael Duval puts it, they are not targeting tech savvy users, or geeks. They want to offer a simple option that even beginners can get to grips with, without jumping through too many hoops and sacrificing convenience.
    /e/ offers integrated services out of the box so you don't have to look for them intially, they put a lot of effort in the launcher user experience, and they are 100% Google Free. They are probably the only one to address the low level stuff as well, like the connectivity checks, or the NTP server, while most other custom ROMs still send information to Google.
    Installing apps
    /e/ doesn't try to reinvent the wheel here: they provide their own app store, that is basically a mirror of the applications available on the play store. Not all of them will be as up to date as the ones available on Googl's markeplace, and some of them won't be available, but the selection is pretty large here.
    You also get some nice touches that you won't find on competing stores, like a privacy score. This is determined by scanning the apks and identifying the permissions they require, as well as the trackers they include, so you know, when you install an app on the /e/ store, what it will collect, and if you can reliably use it or not.

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  • @boatymcboatface9683
    @boatymcboatface9683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2368

    I'm a very happy that the TH-cam algorithm recommend me a video on how to remove google services 😁

  • @alejandrorivas404
    @alejandrorivas404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1202

    I remember when i installed a custom rom on my Motorola moto g first generation, i forgot to install google apps and battery lasted for 2 days, and that day i realized that google do more on the background

    • @paulofreireslaw
      @paulofreireslaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      TH-cam vanced > newpipe

    • @fred-youtube
      @fred-youtube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@DRSDavidSoft Try Firefox or Chromium on your phone insted

    • @Kuri0
      @Kuri0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@DRSDavidSoft use microg

    • @Fruitarian.
      @Fruitarian. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Just like huawei phones these days

    • @fred-youtube
      @fred-youtube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@paulofreireslaw I use YT Vanced, btw (you cant reply to comments or see them on newpipe)

  • @abubkurian1625
    @abubkurian1625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1791

    I would like to see more linux phones, need a third OS in mobile world...

    • @NymezWoW
      @NymezWoW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      Android IS Linux

    • @abubkurian1625
      @abubkurian1625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +242

      NymezWoW android only uses the linux kernels, everything else is built specifically for it. I meant GNU/linux, open source and free software.

    • @NymezWoW
      @NymezWoW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Abu b.kurian Android is free and open source.

    • @abubkurian1625
      @abubkurian1625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      NymezWoW its free and open source but not a free-software, i meant like GNU...

    • @patternwhisperer4048
      @patternwhisperer4048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      @@abubkurian1625 Abu is right, just because it has a linux kernel it doesn't mean that android adhers to linux distros general philosophy. Google's android has added many closed source proprietary parts to the android ecosystem. So yes, android is open source but google is strangelholding its ecosystem

  • @feelshowdy
    @feelshowdy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    An important distinction: /e/ didn't start from AOSP, aka the "scratch" of Android. They started from forking LineageOS, and benefited from the de-googling and optimizations already done by Lineage contributors. This is why they could focus on beautifying the UI, adding branding, making their app store, and removing extra Google stuff Lineage didn't remove in order to replace it with their own implementations. I still think /e/ adds a fair amount of value to its Lineage base, though. It's precisely because they already had a good base that they could build good stuff on top it. The beauty of open source!

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thanks for the precision !

    • @TheNerd
      @TheNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At the end of the day it doesn't matter. If you do not provide access to one of the 2 big AppStores, you need a BIIIIIG Appstore with all important Apps yourself.
      If you don't have it, you fail. I mean if Blackberry and Microsoft both fail, because of this exact issue, the e project is going to fail for sure.

    • @____-gy5mq
      @____-gy5mq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E started with markiplier, stop lying

    • @jacquelineliu2641
      @jacquelineliu2641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheNerd apkpure, apkcombo, apkmirror: Are we a joke to you?

    • @MsDuketown
      @MsDuketown ปีที่แล้ว

      Which version of Android and what date was it released? lol, as mobile history is being written.
      Plenty of OS'es to choose from, but it depends on your device and SoC.
      Open Hardware is still a little lagging.

  • @NoorquackerInd
    @NoorquackerInd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    Allow *Calculator* to make and manage phone calls?

    • @NijiDash
      @NijiDash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Ikr, today I literally found a remote control app that needed access to my phone’s IMEI number. Wasn’t born yesterday, deleted that shit right away lmao.

    • @IntrovertedTechie
      @IntrovertedTechie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@NijiDash Mi remote even has privacy policy 🤣🤣🤣

    • @NijiDash
      @NijiDash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@IntrovertedTechie Yup that's the app I meant, well what did we expect from China right? 🤣

    • @IntrovertedTechie
      @IntrovertedTechie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@NijiDash yeah

    • @MasayaShida
      @MasayaShida 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@NijiDash I've never used a xiaomi before but if you do abit of reading online they seem to be more trustworthy than companies like huawei and whatever the parent company is of oppo vivo and oneplus

  • @njseashorechas2698
    @njseashorechas2698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Very impressive speaking skills! We need these phones in the USA! HUGE demand for anything Google free now!

    • @shanemangold8257
      @shanemangold8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We have them! Get one now

    • @estebanjones2112
      @estebanjones2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dont forget about Apple Charles

    • @njseashorechas2698
      @njseashorechas2698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@estebanjones2112 Apple is now censoring and blocking apps now in the USA

    • @estebanjones2112
      @estebanjones2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@njseashorechas2698 I know. That is what I was trying to add to your comment. We need to start changinf from web searches to mails and phones.

    • @njseashorechas2698
      @njseashorechas2698 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@estebanjones2112 Glad I Subscribed to your channel. Keep us updated!

  • @idk-sy3iu
    @idk-sy3iu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    You: this is is Android without Google spying on you
    Also you: install YT Studio

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, I've got to try it 😅

    • @MarkHobbes
      @MarkHobbes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At least, less data is sent since there is no Google Play Services and it relies on microG :)

    • @idk-sy3iu
      @idk-sy3iu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MarkHobbes so better battery 😂😂😂

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just put a firewall on your phone, allow what you want blovk everything else. Ive used it for yearrrs more recently google force the phone to try and restart around midnight and dump the firewall. So i turn data off etc.

  • @waltz9230
    @waltz9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the best lighting setup I’ve ever seen on TH-cam ever.

  • @Seltyk
    @Seltyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +420

    /e/ foundation has a history of bad open source behavior. The OS is a fork of a _really_ old build of LineageOS (not that forking is an issue, it's just out-of-date), they shamelessly remove credits from Lineage code, and everything on /e/ can probably be achieved on LineageOS in under 10 minutes manually

    • @jothain
      @jothain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Oh boy, I was about to comment that why not just go LineageOS, but if this is a ripoff of that. Well forget it.

    • @AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV
      @AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I don't know this YTber, but it looks like he has no clue about android.

    • @User9681e
      @User9681e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't like linage os as well but a fan of graphene os

    • @rockasaurio1771
      @rockasaurio1771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Thanks for the useful information! I was about to post the question about if the "e account" was something forced or optional; the moment i listened about it on the video, i immediately thought of it as suspicious.

    • @rockasaurio1771
      @rockasaurio1771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV Yes such truth can easily be inferred from the content of his channel.

  • @nottjohn9418
    @nottjohn9418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I use LineageOS and MicroG. After a short learning curve I can't really say I'm missing a lot.

  • @ahmd-mi9964
    @ahmd-mi9964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We need to support such alternative freedom for the masses platforms.

  • @claudiacardinelli1867
    @claudiacardinelli1867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I subscribed.
    Also thanks for giving credit to the musical artist/song.
    If I like the the music, I like to know who it is.
    I'm sure they want to be known as well.

  • @justinmcginty6815
    @justinmcginty6815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just stumbled over this blog. This is great news. I'm not tech savvy though, so I'd have to wait for the installer app.
    I'm over these tech giants. Open source is the way to go. Keep on working on the installer. You will get my business.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah as soon as they can make this painless, they'll grab more market share !

  • @gamingcollection270
    @gamingcollection270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really interesting to see that these projects are coming out. And I'm really planning on switching to them in the future. Or use my older devices and just put that OS on it instead of buying something new. Enough options that respect the user and their privacy to choose from if you ask me.

  • @pirosoffaireyes
    @pirosoffaireyes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How is their privacy policy like? I might have to check that out. Better than google using your data for everything adrelated I guess.

  • @zski1
    @zski1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great start to shut these monopolies down. But my only skepticism is...it still has Android which the roots are from Google.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that’s why I just released a video about pure Linux on a phone :)

  • @rklauco
    @rklauco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. This is what I needed to kick the effort off the start line. Purchased (bit damaged) old S9 to test, if I like it, I'll grab the S9+ from /e/. Thanks a lot!

  • @ariedov
    @ariedov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Most of the apps still use Google/Firebase analytics. So by installing any of the third-party closed-source apps - Google is still there.

    • @pmscalisi
      @pmscalisi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many sites can be accessed without an app?

    • @rodnocker6172
      @rodnocker6172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s true but the trick is they can’t connect it too your identity!

  • @johngiuffrida
    @johngiuffrida 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow...that seemed like a really good, objective review. Thanks Stranger!

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching :)

  • @dagg497
    @dagg497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Firefox or Opera with Adblocker.
    Use duckduckgo search engine.
    Sideload apps from apk mirror.
    Use Vanced instead of TH-cam.
    Use microG for login to Google maps and TH-cam services..
    And use Microsofts outlook app instead of the stupid Gmail.
    I wish Android was stripped off all telemetric Google contact and Bloat apps..aswell as a virtual machine for running apps in so they dont bypass app permissions which the surely do. I still get very specifoc instagram ads even though i turned off mic and camera access on all Facebook apps

  • @kosinusify
    @kosinusify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now that's interesting. I heard about another French approach to de-Googling Android while maintaining user-friendlyness. It's a company called iodé, who have taken a pretty similar approach to /e/. Maybe you could make a review about them as well and compare them? I would definitely be interested in seeing that, because I am currently not sure about what to use as my next mobile OS.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ll look into it!

  • @BlenderDumbass
    @BlenderDumbass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The permissions on Android always annoyed me.
    I wish there was an option to install the package and not give it all the permissions it want. Like activate and deactivate them as I need to use this or that.
    Like allow camera in the web browser. If don't allow the site will say something like. Sorry this feature is not working. Bla bla.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree 100%

    • @hanschannel599
      @hanschannel599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it will do if you use some of AOSP flavor like LineageOS

    • @eduard647
      @eduard647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some sites today straight up won't work i you just deny notifications from them, it's really shady stuff

    • @FullOilBarrel
      @FullOilBarrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eduard647 dont use those shit sites

    • @jothain
      @jothain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OnePlus phones are quite nice on this. It'll ask if you want to give permission x for app y. It also more specifically gives that third and to me most interesting option "deny if program is running in background".

  • @patricelauverjon2480
    @patricelauverjon2480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beyond Systems: we depend on our abilities to react timely according to the present moments.

  • @ElectromagneDikk
    @ElectromagneDikk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so damn excited by this, oh man. It's literally going to be that kid on Christmas moment when I get one of these.

  • @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca
    @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Phones are the current frontier on pushing against Google and Facebook; but I think the key is efficient containers and limiting the amount of data matched from different sources. I can't see neither the public choosing to move past Facebook's apps and Google's services, nor those companies willingly giving up permissions or access to personal data.
    So we need one android that can effectively allow usage of the apps, while denying the corporations usage of the users. No amount of polishment or ease of use can cut that corner - and those parts will most likely follow naturally.
    Another option is to have a cultural movement to de-contaminate our life from excessive use of technology all together. If an OS that can deliver that catches enough interest, it can most likely force the corporations other than the tech giants to reposition on issues like privacy and maximising screen time.
    But I don't think this solves either problem. If the /e account could provide anonymity while using the most popular services, it could be useful. If their cloud services included a VPN and an account/password manager, things could be different. And if the apk-store included a way to actually limit the permissions, it might be more interesting for the general public.

  • @Landofalcon007
    @Landofalcon007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your outro music is really funky, I love it.

  • @goldfinger0072
    @goldfinger0072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, i have transformed my S8 to this operating system, and it looks indeed a little bit basic, but everything works fine and am very happy with it!..thanks!

  • @leighjenkins5601
    @leighjenkins5601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm running Lineage OS and fdroid instead of google play.

    • @Joshlul
      @Joshlul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is better. /e/ are not magicians, nanodroid would accomplish something similar if you ran it in lineage, /e/ apps are proven insecure and send personal data over plaintext. BEWARE

    • @SpaceTimeBeing_
      @SpaceTimeBeing_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lineage OS isn't completely degoogled. It still has a lot of dependencies on google codes and features. Also you could just use the other custom roms, they are all the same with more features if they are stable.

    • @Joshlul
      @Joshlul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neither is /e/

    • @jothain
      @jothain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SpaceTimeBeing_ It's pretty highly degoogled imo. I noticed quite many misbehaves because of those missing features from g's services.Though I can't say/claim it's 100%

    • @gibberishdump1610
      @gibberishdump1610 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jothain ewwlo.void.partidopirata.com.ar/

  • @d0g_0f_Christ0s
    @d0g_0f_Christ0s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Degoogled sounds tight ✊😉

  • @modm8843
    @modm8843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the word “DEGOOGLED”

  • @user-mp3eq6ir5b
    @user-mp3eq6ir5b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that I have read thru the review, I will watch it. Very well written, informative & anytime I see "open source" my antennas start vibrating. Like Mozilla with the T-Rex Hammer & Sickle "stand alone" installer.

  • @rob-toolsandtech2521
    @rob-toolsandtech2521 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pretty cool. The ultimate would be if you can run android in a virtual machine. Turn on VM when you need to use a google app, or another low privacy app, then turn it back off when you’re done. Even if the controls for the host OS take up a bit of room on the screen somewhere, most of the modern phones have enough screen real estate for that anyway. Plus, if you ever upgrade the phone, running the VM on the new phone would be as easy as copying the file to the new phone.

  • @SuchtFaktorHoch10
    @SuchtFaktorHoch10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have only one question:
    Can I finally make an actual backup of the whole phone?

    • @AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV
      @AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's something u can do with the TeamWin Recovery, aka TWRP. It doesn't matter which ROM u use, because it's the recovery. In fact, I'd advise against this ROM, just get TWRP and any other ROM. Same difference, only that this ROM is outdated and ugly imo

  • @ElectricUAM
    @ElectricUAM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been watching Eelo and /e/ since day one and know it will be my next phone. Since I've never flashed a phone before, I'm waiting on their installer to flash my old S7 but will soon get something from them directly. I hope it works well in the US, that's the only thing I have to make sure.

  • @exposingthedarknesswiththe9190
    @exposingthedarknesswiththe9190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *SEEMS THE e-PHONE HAS A WAYS TO GO BEFORE WE HAVE UNLIMITED TEXT AND EMAIL TEXTS, ETC. WE EAGERLY AWAIT THESE STANDARDIZED IMPROVEMENTS.*

  • @threepercent490
    @threepercent490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Gotta get one of these to save myself from the covid genocide contact tracing Psychopathy. Thanks for making this video. Much appreciated.

  • @finnk1289
    @finnk1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone wants the features of e/ on an unsupported device or with more up-to-date Android, try LineageOS. It's AMAZING. They support almost every device and constantly make newer versions.
    You will only miss out on the e/ account, something actually quite intriguing to me.

  • @corataylor2205
    @corataylor2205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciated the Yuka mention, such a slept on app.

  • @mrwest5552
    @mrwest5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating. I understood the content of your review %99 through. Thank You.

  • @johnbamber7374
    @johnbamber7374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is an awesome review. I bet the /e/ Foundation is blown away by this reception. Excellent choice on their part to not actually sponsor it.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Had I known I would have liked it so much, I would have asked for money 😅

    • @johnbamber7374
      @johnbamber7374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheLinuxEXP, I do wish you had been compensated, as I hope you're able to keep making videos indefinitely; however, I think it adds even more weight to your overwhelmingly positive review that it wasn't sponsored.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For now, I have no plans to stop :) I can't make a living on what TH-cam pays me, but it could happen if the channel keeps growing :)

  • @python3.x
    @python3.x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great content. Question: How to move from Gmail?

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have already done a video on that, in the same playlist ;)

    • @simonebertini1813
      @simonebertini1813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Linux CodeX protonmail and tutanota should be the best alternatives

    • @michaelenelmar
      @michaelenelmar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pay a serious email provider and use a different app. I really recommend fair email, It is a great piece of work.

    • @speedflam
      @speedflam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mailo is a simple alternative :)

    • @damienw4958
      @damienw4958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you have have a server, you can make your own relay on it.

  • @trippinf472
    @trippinf472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always great video!

  • @chocoboasylum
    @chocoboasylum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting! Specially now

  • @gamethecupdog
    @gamethecupdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This led me to two very interesting discoveries, being that someones working on 3DS support on /e/, and that led to a continuation of linux on 3DS. Very fun stuff, if I learn how to I might contribute.

  • @raz0229
    @raz0229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why doesn't Huawei just team up with /e/ Project and use eOS in their latest phones

    • @josephanand16
      @josephanand16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Huawei would still not be able to use this. Because the phone is Android based which is still owned by Google. Since the eproject is AOSP users can do what they like , but will not be allowed to make a business out of it. Hence eOs is "non profit"

    • @raz0229
      @raz0229 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephanand16 Yea, makes sense

  • @Thedownliner2015
    @Thedownliner2015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like LineageOS 17.1. Been using 16 for about 6 months now without issues. The only problem was when the OS switched from 16 to 17 it required flashing the new OS rather than doing an auto update. In fact @ 07:59 you show in About Phone its using LineageOS llama.

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that there are downloads for many different older phones as well as relatively late model used phones with a no-G OS preinstalled for around $400.
    I removed as much G stuff from my phone as possible which doesn't get me much. This looks great.
    I can see carrying a stripped phone to use only as a phone and a no G tablet with no SIM card and only very rare access to WiFi for everything else - video, GPS, pictures, etc..

  • @owaisparkar
    @owaisparkar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Huawei wants to know your location

    • @TheZenytram
      @TheZenytram 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is deGoogle but not deChina.

    • @khatuntsovmikhail6223
      @khatuntsovmikhail6223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huawei is more fair than Google! theybare saying we are selling cellphones. Google sell you service =)

    • @onebiglotus7347
      @onebiglotus7347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally not a huawei employee

  • @ryann6919
    @ryann6919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This looks very promising. It's a good alternative to pinephone OSes (at least until they mature more). Would love to run this on a pinephone.

  • @trevormckellen5613
    @trevormckellen5613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the OS and the fact that you still have access to the regular apps like Spotify

  • @gosth81
    @gosth81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm seriously thinking to try this OS, I'm actually using a Redmi Note 8

  • @nikolaidisharalambos6396
    @nikolaidisharalambos6396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If something is for free, the product is you.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I generally agree with this phrase, except in the case of open source. It’s generally all free of charge, but you’re not really the product either :)

  • @joeltunnah
    @joeltunnah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apple also allows websites to access your cookies and browsing history. I shopped at a camera store, and then went to a news site, and the in-line ads there were items from the same camera store. Pretty blatant.

  • @greyman1104
    @greyman1104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't trust them a single bit tbh.

    • @erwindee7384
      @erwindee7384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why not? I'm getting a weird vibe too but can't put my finger on it.

    • @Kevin-yh8ol
      @Kevin-yh8ol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erwindee7384 is it because the letter e is just a flipped letter G from Google?

    • @erwindee7384
      @erwindee7384 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kevin-yh8ol No. I think I was feeling like they were ignoring the elephant in the room that is LineageOS. Can't remember now.

  • @MaiONerds
    @MaiONerds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The real question is how will they feed their employees?

    • @darylrobbins2325
      @darylrobbins2325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can buy refurbished phone with /e/ installed on it. You can also buy storage upgrade. Also donations.

  • @pointlessink6084
    @pointlessink6084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sadly many apps needs google services to work, tho it's true we need another system.

    • @AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV
      @AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what MicroG is for. Look it up.

    • @pointlessink6084
      @pointlessink6084 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV Hopefully that would be possible, tho a lot of companies in and out of the western market still depends on a "secured" google services.

    • @harshvithlani9399
      @harshvithlani9399 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is also harmony os coming

  • @gabriel360
    @gabriel360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks a lot for sharing! very happy to discover this

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem :) Glad to be of service !

  • @fionaneufeld7908
    @fionaneufeld7908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much for the great video, I will definitely check out their website :)

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks :) Do take a look, it's really a nice solution !

  • @ahmada.562
    @ahmada.562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad I got this recommendation 🙂 That said though, I find that this eOS is a major downgrade compared to the extremely feature-packed experience Samsung offers on their devices. Where's DeX mode? Where's Edge Panels? Where's the extremely versatile notes app? Where's GoodLock?
    I'd much rather just uninstall all the scroogle software that came on my Note 8 and stick with Samsung's extremely feature-packed, yet privacy-friendly offerings. Then control the traffic from my Note 8 with AdGuard Premium. Which is what I've done thus far.
    Make it OneUI based then we're talking.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's features I had never used on my Samsung phone, they just clutter Android IMO with all that stuff that creates duplicate features :)

    • @ahmada.562
      @ahmada.562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheLinuxEXP Duplicate features? Lol, sounding like one of them uninformed reviewers. Samsung's software offerings are miles more feature-rich compared to scroogle's. So much so, literally EVERYTHING "new" to pitifully-limited stock Android 11 has been on my Note 8 right out of the box with Android 7.
      Heck, stock Android's desktop mode is still merely been in beta all this while, whereas Samsung DeX is already replacing chunky windows Laptops/Desktops in police vehicles and offices. How do you consider that "duplicate features"?
      Those duplicate apps you get out of the box are merely there for the user's convenience in deciding whether they want scroogle's data-harvesting services or Samsung's feature-rich and privacy-friendly services. The user can simply uninstall/disable the ones they don't want, which is what I did to all the scroogle apps on my Note 8.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not uninformed. I used Samsung phones for 6 years now.
      These features are, IMO, clutter. The Android experience in general is super messy.
      The settings are mostly illegible, Samsung adds their own apps in too of Google's and also i stalls some Microsoft apps by default.
      There are tons of hidden features in the settings that are just useless to me. Swipe for a screenshot? Wake up the phone when you lift it? That sidebar thing, which you can bring up by swiping the power button ?
      It's just totally unnecessary to my experience with a phone. If other people use them, then good for them, but I would much prefer a simpler skin, like the one /e/ offers.

    • @ahmada.562
      @ahmada.562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheLinuxEXP You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but having experienced the Note 8 as my first ever Samsung Smartphone (after over half a decade of using just jailbroken iPhones then switching to Android on a OnePlus One in 2014), I simply can NEVER settle for anything less versatile than this.
      That palm swipe to capture has come in handy for capturing screenshots of various apps that respond to the press of my Note 8's buttons. I'd much rather have the choice when I need it than be stuck hunting around for some 3rd party solution when I need it.
      Raise to wake, although I personally didn't enable it, I can certainly see its use for the situation where your phone's power button got damaged. Instead of always having to use some pin to reach the button on the motherboard each time you want to wake up the device, you simply pick it up. Again, I'd much rather have the choice than be scrambling for some 3rd party solution when required.
      Finally, the Edge Panels, that's a MAJOR feature I use EVERYDAY on my Note 8. It provides a whole bunch of time saving functions, so much so, I can NEVER settle for a device without it. Below are just a handful of uses:
      - It provides quick access to my favorite apps and app pairs from ANY screen, including the lockscreen
      - It allows quick opening of apps like the calculator in floating window mode (I simply drag it from the Apps edge panel to the center of my screen) so I can calculate whatever is on my screen at the moment without wasting time switching between apps.
      - It enables quick tracking of my stocks on the stock market, via the Yahoo Finance Edge panel.
      - Enables quick tracking of breaking news headlines.
      - Enables quick access to my special bookmarks, including my Kodi stream pairing websites, getting to which needs to be fast before it times out in Kodi.
      - Enables quick access to a compass/leveler/ruler/flashlight/tally counter
      - Enables quick access to my favorite contacts
      - Enables quick access to weather information
      - Enables quick access to data usage information
      All of that, accessible from ANY screen (including lockscreen) with merely a swipe (configurable on a per panel basis). Plus, it is further extendable with 3rd party apps from the app store. I certainly ain't settling for any device without it. Stock Android would likely implement it in another decade like all their other "new" features...

  • @fernandoc6578
    @fernandoc6578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I like about using SailfishOS is that for example, if you
    don't have WhatsApp opened, no message is gonna coming through and the
    people could think you are offline. Sometimes I put the device in
    Airplane Mode and switch on Wifi/Data when I want to use internet but
    don't want to be disturb. Is this possible to do with LineageOS or other
    DeGoogled options?

  • @ChrisFaulkner
    @ChrisFaulkner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    to get around gmail, just use K-9 email app and login to IMAP..

  • @GroverAU
    @GroverAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Note: Apple was the first company to sell data to companies and has been for decades (since iPod). Just because you might not see an add, does not mean that they are not collecting and using your data for profit. In fact, one of the biggest data collection groups was formed by Apple specifically for data mining people.

  • @Revenant483
    @Revenant483 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the honest review Nick! I will look into this. I did see that their Murena One phone does not support Verizon but other than that I might try to find one of the approved phones on their list.

  • @DarksurfX
    @DarksurfX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review good sir! I appreciate this. This was the first I've ever heard of this.

  • @gabriellopez-mw8qc
    @gabriellopez-mw8qc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do like the idea of de-googled phones fighting with disinformation rather than just phones that create privacy by withholding it

  • @fuseteam
    @fuseteam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    makes me wonder how feasible a collaboration between /e/ and ubports foundations is

    • @redrock9319
      @redrock9319 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They both make different OS why a collaboration?

    • @fuseteam
      @fuseteam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redrock9319 like the cloud services and perhaps drivers and what not both are linux oses after all

  • @GuyA
    @GuyA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. Thanks for the news. Waiting for the pinephone fork .. maybe it will be usable:)

  • @syedia
    @syedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This just got recommend to me, never seen this channel before, nice.

  • @Live4today22
    @Live4today22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video it's going to be helpful I have purchased my e solution phone and I am waiting for it to be delivered.

  • @07Convertable
    @07Convertable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What app are you using that appears to be doing voice dictation? Thanks.

  • @modiflasher9988
    @modiflasher9988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is like Custom rom but without Opengapps installed ?

  • @atomspalter2090
    @atomspalter2090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just found ur channel and subscribed already! nice topics nice videoediting nice serous information!

  • @planetarytapestry8092
    @planetarytapestry8092 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a BLU phone and would love to get rid of Google. How you reclaim everything from Google Drive etc...I am happy to simply. This sounds great. Very exciting. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @felipemoreira8308
    @felipemoreira8308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a way of getting rid of big techs surveilance: using pencil and papers.

  • @MxCrompli
    @MxCrompli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how their entire brand is just the letter *e*
    2018 would be proud

  • @VMGChannel
    @VMGChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the second telephoto lens working on aosp?

  • @targeted4truthjahsun
    @targeted4truthjahsun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The data collection includes biological functions breathing, schedule, eye dilations, voice changes modulations, and it's all analayzed with ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. It's called surveillance capitalism.

  • @eddygordov
    @eddygordov 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gael has gone a long way since Mandrake...

  • @happyfeet4506
    @happyfeet4506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video. 👍 I had no idea this os existed until this video popped up. I've now installed this os on my s9 + all running perfectly and no google

  • @davebirch2543
    @davebirch2543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't rooted or installed custom firmware on one of my samsungs in years, but if the galaxy note 10+ pops up on that list I think I'd give it a try. I really dug the CyanogenMod and AOSP roms back in the day.

    • @BluRadoZ71
      @BluRadoZ71 ปีที่แล้ว

      I havent rooted in around 6 years. I looked into rooting my older Pixel 6 and the process looked so much confusing and harder than it did when i used to. I gave up. Maybe i got more dumb as i got older lol.

  • @AB-ii8st
    @AB-ii8st 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about camera? Custom ROMs usually don’t include the camera blobs, so the quality is worse and you don’t get features like slomotion.

  • @vcb2553
    @vcb2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want this now

  • @arfism
    @arfism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the URL of the webpages at 2m55s which lists compatible phones?
    I could not find it at the e foundation website.
    Found it at doc.e.foundation/devices/

  • @2disbetter
    @2disbetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For those unaware, you don't have to use any of E's default apps, you don't even have to use the launcher (bliss) that E OS uses. I for example use Nova Launcher. It is currently Android 9 or 10 depending on the image you are using.

  • @jotarokujo6099
    @jotarokujo6099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do in-app purchases work? Can you buy apps in their appstore? If not (which I'm sure is 99% true, because implementing that would break Google ToS), this can be a deal-breaker for some users.

  • @rickchase6990
    @rickchase6990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So relevant for 2021

  • @hambonious
    @hambonious 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really exciting. Thanks for posting this. 👍

  • @AskIveSolar
    @AskIveSolar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting stuff. I wonder what Rob Braxman would think. He doesn't seem to be a big fan of microg. Cool video i might check this OS out.

    • @samhirsch4863
      @samhirsch4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rob won't bother reviewing an outdated dysfunctional OS

  • @Ruptured_AU
    @Ruptured_AU 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about google maps? I guess there is no way to have it without feeding info to google somehow but its the main thing I use my phone for.
    Also no official link to /e/ operating system in the description?

  • @ragilmalik
    @ragilmalik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    android is a registered trademark. It actually falls under AOSP, not android. If you're not google, you can't name any os Android

  • @operaix1343
    @operaix1343 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use LineageOS, but also use Microsoft Edge browser and Microsoft launcher, because it's the best solutions in terms of functionality and appearance. You have to compromise with the micro soft.)

  • @achilleuscoronel6466
    @achilleuscoronel6466 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carriers should have this as an option.

  • @Stoutaragua
    @Stoutaragua 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In January 2021, this video is about 6 months old...what makes you think that android programmers haven't found work arounds?

  • @chriswilliamson9030
    @chriswilliamson9030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love it. But I need either android auto or carplay support. There's zero options for that. But for those that dont need that. This is actually really cool.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I don't need that at all 😅

  • @jackt6112
    @jackt6112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect! I'm looking at buying a Pixel 2XL to go with my Note 9 because I need Oreo and the Pixel 2XL is stuck at Oreo which is right where I want it. The play store and newer versions of Android kill call recording. However, if it is based on LineageOS, that may be a problem. LineageOS 15.1 didn't support VoLTE and that is a requirement for nearly all carriers these days because they are getting their non-LTE bands pulled away from them.

  • @AnzanHoshinRoshi
    @AnzanHoshinRoshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Nick. Getting there.

  • @richardmeyer418
    @richardmeyer418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know I'm late to this (again), but wasn't Gael Duval a big shot in Mandrake Linux? That used to be a favourite distro of maine back in 2002, when I went 90% Linux 10% Windows (for gaming only).

  • @jamescook5617
    @jamescook5617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Parler available in such a set-up ?

    • @undertaken5200
      @undertaken5200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Website should always be available

  • @brianwild4640
    @brianwild4640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video very clear. I have all mine working but still can’t get the web gui shows the same face on a webpage same as the e ink display