What it's like to use a De-Googled phone in real life? (Q&A of concerns)
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- What is it actually like to use a de-Googled Android phone as a daily driver? Will it feel like you became a luddite or a cave man eschewing tech? Is it actually usable? What apps can you run? What about navigation? Will you survive without Google? Does it change how the cell phone works? Does it affect the battery? Do we need to change habits to keep privacy with a de-Googled phone? Do I lose privacy when I log on to another app?
This video discusses the actual real life experience of using Android Open Source Project (AOSP) on a phone without GAPPS (Google Apps). It will discuss what's possible and what the expected limitations are. It will discuss if this is usable as a daily driver.
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I de-googled my phone by throwing it off a bridge into the river
Ultimate wisdom !
🤣
Good move!!!
Lol that works too!!!
@campbellscollision I'm everywhere and no where lol!!!
Time to de google, de apple, de twitter, de Facebook, de instagram
Good one! 😆
De Amazon.
The last two are the same thing. Facebook bought Instagram years ago.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
De Microsoft, de Whatsapp
Pen and paper, mail, landline newspaper phone book. Good ol days
I understand your sentiment, but there’s nothing inherently bad or evil about smart phones. They’re amazing devices. But Google and Apple are abusing their power.
@@catvideos3249 Yes, there is. They're way to expensive to be carrying around. People in Colombia steal them to "recycle" through cellphone shops, of which there are thousands. It's a thriving black market.
Let your fingers do the walking.
Try beads messaging , smoke signals and falcons ... yeah
Luddite!
Lol...
I can relate...
This man is a genius. I'm glad he's on the side of freedom.
Yeah at 300 to 700 a phone. Right on our side.this dude could comletely switch the game with these phones
Tru I think I need to watch this video a few times but I have to watch some mundane videos for a bit
@@mikerotch124 Well, if you have a talent you have the right to profit, or not, from it.
agreed
@The Druid that's not true. for instance, I have no idea what you just said, nor would I know what that does or how to go about it
Remember when a phone used to hang on the wall?
Yup. Anyone remember party lines?
When a hand full of houses used the same phone line.
lol
They still have "land lines" don't they?
Love the rotary phones
@@datsunlambchops4624 You ppl are showing how old we are!! ;-) course if we weren't old, we wouldnt think there was anything wrong with loosing all our rights!! lol
Plot Twist: Algorithm only recommend this video because it figured anyone who mentions "Google" over 1,973 times in 22 minutes must be a huge fan
😂😂 I guess!
Lmao...nice
HEHEHE
1984 times**
@@mikebjul lol
Well, Im trying to unplug and be more proactive (draw, read books, study, learn to trade, gym etc). Its a great feeling. Dont feel like a zombie.
That’s exactly how life used to be before 2007. Because smartphones didn’t exist.
Getting rid of Facebook was one of the best things I've ever done for myself. For the first few days I literally didn't know what to with idle time, i.e. breaks at work, sitting on the commode, etc. Once I refamiliarized myself with pooping or brushing my teeth without FB, my life improved.
That's exactly what life was and is meant to be.
@@jinvid hard to imagine… I need to unplug as well.
let's say, we use deGoogle phone, without identity, but then,
can Google figure out, our identity from our contact list ?
if so, then our contact list, in the de-Googled phone, maybe also can tell Google our identity,
or if our de-Googled and Google phone are always at the same location,
maybe, Google also can relate our identity into the de-Googled phone ?
if SOC, wifi module, and baseband modem, has their own OS and drivers,
then, does it mean, the de-Googled phone also cannot help ? since it only replace the Android OS,
can the de-Googled phone and faraday bag prevent privacy threat by ultrasonic sound ?
As a former network engineer who has contracted for alphabet agencies, this is my favorite channel for security issues. Concise, current and well presented. Thanks for your time and talent.
It'd be interesting to here about your experiences with alphabet boy contracts. Do you know to what degree they've backdoored software and hardware?
IME and PSP for intel and AMD chips are all backdoors. Everything is recorded and stored, it's why Huawei is actually banned, the US govt wants devices with their own backdoors. It's probably why the Hamas attack went undetected.@@TrappedInFloor
Why are you scared of lmao. Imagine thinking you're important enought to be monitored online, but in reality you're just a bunch of 01010 targeted by recommendations ads
This video seems strangely prescient at this moment in history.
I was thinking the same thing
Can’t believe this popped up... tech cancelling all they can
Exactly I am doing my bit to punish big tech by reducing my commercial value to them. Reducing their access to my valuable data is part of that.
Exactly i just deleted amazon and twitter so looking for a way to use phone and pc without google.
That’s God talking to us
Ironic that a TH-cam rabbit hole is what is going to make me DeGoogle my phone. You rock.
Thanks for sharing!!
So you can just deGoogle your cell? Or you need a degoogle cell? I dont no
Same. Subscribed before he finished.
@@coolhawk2003 if you have solid technical skills you could do it on your own. You can also find vendors, like Braxman, who will do it for you.
I beleive we need to understand tech like we understand gardening. The more we understand it, the more we have control of our own lives.
I’ve got to say- it’s completely bananas to me that the TOTALLY rational desire to be untethered and un-beholden to Big Brother is seen as an odd or unconventional point of. Keep fighting the good fight, John Connor. ✊🏼 Respect.
I was told that not having social media is a "red flag".
@@please.665 Wow...
Dude, you are making a real positive impact on humanity. Thank you!
Going Alt Tech, no more Amazon, and Walmart buying.. Also deleted my Facebook a year ago, haven’t missed it yet!! This is the next step for me!!
List your favorite Alt tech. I need to switch to different alternatives
Isn't it amazing how much time you realize you wasted after you get rid of things like Facebook. I don't want to be on my death bed thinking man I wasted so much time.
I’ve recently stopped using Amazon...so where do you shop?
@@tracylowe9570 I mostly shop local or eBay. Shopping local is the most important thing you can do if you care about your town/city's health. You can't get everything though so eBay sometimes. Nice thing about buying local is you get to know the people in your town and build a nice friendly relationship. Also stop buying chinese when possible or from any county that supports slave labor.
I deleted FB from my phone and now I'm getting ads to install it.
Most of us should de-google,let them know who's boss
Unfortunately they already do know and it's not us.
That’s why we’re all watching this. I know nothing about this and am trying to figure it out....
@@Heartwing37 me to.
@@Willowtree82 Facts, it always bothered me that my smart phones come with preinstalled bullcrap I need to root my device just to uninstall.
Not just talk or comments anymore it’s time for concrete action. I’m getting this and do not buy any smart connected devices.
Big Tech is taking themselves out with their own products. Love it. I am separating from basically every big corporation company possible.
I cant stress enough how thankful I am for this precious, invaluable information. Its incredibly important that we get out from being under the thumb of big corporations/big tech.
TH-cam (google) actually recommend this video
Yeah, this definitely doesn't threaten Google in any significant way, so they don't care. So few people will ever actually go through with this.
Even their algorithms are telling us to de-google! That should tell you something!
Thank the many many gods for the ignorant part of AI.
@@grizzlyaddams3606 The google Algo just likes hearing her own name. She naturally assumes its something good, thus desires it to be repeated.
Right? I thought that was hilarious!! 😋
This should be a genre called "clean tech".
That's very a clever name. Debloated software is what XDA users refer to a lot! Or GAPS free ROM.
There's been a sudden surge in software that's modular in the installation interface (which is very clever also) allowing users to opt in or out of including Google software in the installation package.
What would be ideal is that in the /system/app that there only purely be the minimum amount of "system applications" required to allow the phone to operate and perform the basic functions of a phone and operating system; all other non-essential Google made applications should be shifted to /data/data to allow all users the free choice to completely remove all Google related applications!
There are some cavits when considering this for yourself (as I used to do upon obtaining my new phone - it wouldn't boot even once with factory firmware) that many of the Google related applications and library supporting applications tie back in and/or are so heavily embedded through links within the systemUI, framework and Java libraries that it becomes a bit of a crash test the first time you boot👍
Often there'd be some XML hidden in the public of systemUI referring to proprietary Google application (like DSP in the old days) and then your launcher crashes. It's fun figuring out what files do what when you don't even have any source files to begin with..... Samsung phones and mapping out 'here be dragons' of the innards Samsung Touchwiz! Those were the days when men were men and devices were considered guinea pigs!
Only those that knew how to "roll their own" and build a 4 part recovery firmware for un-bricking their device.....they were the pioneers of early Android.
Listening to your channel is becoming more and more relevant every day.... And it's making me want to dust off my old Android ROM cooking stuff and rebuild a more security focused software for my phone?
The issue I have is that being a Samsung excludes me from using a non-Samsung proprietary bootloader (with Knox embedded - I was one of the guys that worked on root without Knox trigger in the early days).
I can't remember where I was reading about it; but I believe that there is a pixel available now where the user can use a 3rd party bootloader that allows for re-encryption??
To be fully secure I need to enable an "encryptable" boot loader in order to disable boot into download mode?
I use an app called "Package Disabler Pro".
It's a couple bucks to buy but it's awesome.
I've rooted my phone's in the past but anymore these days I don't want to risk bricking the phone & keeping up with the latest "you better know this before you root" info takes up too much time to stay current on. Esp when the XDA threads are 100+ pages long...
Package Disabler Pro let's you disable pretty much everything you want to just like Titanium Backup does but do so without having root access.
I really wish more devs would develop apps that let you bring your phone more to the side of private etc etc etc.
@@ClickClack_Bam I'm already all over that one 👍 but Cheers appreciate the recommendation. I've got package disabler Pro 2, however I've found it's just as easy to run a few commands via adb to uninstall the listed apps from the 0 user account. Does the same as package disabler without needing the another app.
Myself these days, i think I've become accustomed to just using a hand full of apps. I've got apps I have installed for those times their required but infrequently used as well then all other apps remain as apk install files on my sdcard. All apps I've personally downloaded vetted myself, removed any and all unnecessary URLs and basically anything that is not required for the app to functiom I'll remove from the apk, repackage and sign the app. All apps I do this to. Even apps from F droid. Comment out the manifest is a good way to start. Remove all the shit you don't want listed in the manifest xml and then as the app starts to break and crap it's self I go through each fault 1 by 1 until the app functions again exactly how I want it and then use it. I keep doing that until app doesn't work with the version of firmware I'm using then i look for an upgrade or an alternative and start the process again.
I once almost got caught out with an invisible premium dialler in an app on Google Play. Lucky I had my phone in aeroplane mode and adb was throwing hidden errors (suppressed errors - instead of a toast pop up it writes to a file instead) like crazy. Since then I've been sketchy as with any application. I reported that application. I did an analysis report and posted to XDA many years back
@Angler Strong wat
@@ClickClack_Bam Lucky Patcher, too! :P
30 seconds in and I already love this guy.
I didn't realize this was a question. I've "de-googled" my phones since the very start...and enjoy using my phone without dealing with Google:-)
I'm listening to this guy. But all these abbreviations! Where do I start ?
@@oldblackstock2499 Google them, lol
You've installed a custom rom /AOSP or purchased a De-Googled Phone? Otherwise your phone is not De-Googled since by default all android phone comes with GAPPS.
@@thaik56 no one mentioned the phone was default ;-)
let's say, we use deGoogle phone, without identity, but then,
can Google figure out, our identity from our contact list ?
if so, then our contact list, in the de-Googled phone, maybe also can tell Google our identity,
or if our de-Googled and Google phone are always at the same location,
maybe, Google also can relate our identity into the de-Googled phone ?
if SOC, wifi module, and baseband modem, has their own OS and drivers,
then, does it mean, the de-Googled phone also cannot help ? since it only replace the Android OS,
can the de-Googled phone and faraday bag prevent privacy threat by ultrasonic sound ?
Seems like this video is quite timely.
The irony is the Google Algorithm is what brought it to so many people's eyes.
Thing is they probably don't really care since not enough people will de google their phone for it to make a big enough impact for them.
Bit too late if you ask me, but nobody asked me so I'll just leave my opinion here. Haha
Yeah, but "They" still have chipset-level backdoors in everything for at least the last decade & everything has been recorded since 2001. All calls, IMs, texts...
@@VeritasEtAequitas 🤔Hmmm?... So what do you propose for a solution?....
Damn, I used to think "Why would I want a phone with no Google ?", but now I'm thinking "Damn. I should have bought a Google-less phone".
I don't think you can buy a google-less phone, at least they are extremely hard to find. The most promising one for a while has been Librem 5 though, but it's availability is a bit scarce as it's release keeps getting delayed.
@@cestarianinhabitant5898 Yeah, you can. Some of the latest Huawei phones come with no Google services pre-installed. It's the P40 model I think.
@@cryptotrader2779 Ah, the chinese models. Then again, you never know about all the other stuff it comes preinstalled with instead of google, so it's a bit of an unknown tradeoff.
@@cestarianinhabitant5898 I think it always will be a lottery unless you're a real crack at this and know 100% for sure what's in there and what your phone is doing at all times. I personally suspect that here in the west, anything from China is probably a lot less to worry about than Google. I think they're likely too concerned with control over their own people than us.
@@cryptotrader2779 I kinda agree with that actually, I'm a lot less worried about what the Chinese do with my data than what the Americans do with it.
There is no such thing as 100%, although you can audit the code (since AOSP is open source; you can read the code directly and review it to see if it has any backdoors, before compiling it for your phone and installing it; but for phones in particular it requires some fairly extensive know-how, as opposed to PCs where it's a lot easier to ensure compatibility; since phones are all different but PCs are all more or less the same)
There's also of course writing your own operating system yourself.
But whether you audit the code, or make your own, there's on circumventing the possibility that you might still become a victim of direct hacking, even if you avoid the major data collection initiatives. There's also always the possibility of human error where you make an oopsie and install an app that comes with some unwanted bonuses.
One of the MOST IMPORTANT CHANNELS ON TH-cam right here.
THANK YOU Sir! 🙏🏽
This is very interesting, I'll be using this in the future! Thank you Mr. Braxman!
I love how the people can and do find ther way around big tech. Then help others out... your awesome bro
I appreciate that!
Exynos cpu s9s and note 9s are super easy to root and install custom os as well OnePlus if you're interested in getting a good powerful phone to install a Googleless os.
Based
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How do you get a phone like this and what are their costs? And what mobile company can you use?
Im gonna go back to taking pictures with cameras. I miss it..
Yes! Time for me to dust off my cameras.
The picture's worth a thousand words!
Phone cameras tend to suck, anyway.
Me too. My Canon died and was debating on whether to go full out iPhone instead of replacing my camera. I think I’ll try one of the mirrorless this time (reviews welcome!)
Glad so much truth has come to light before I made the wrong choice.
You will get much better pics. Phone cameras suck. They are small. No choice of glass lenses.
Truly, the most informative youtube I've seen in a long time. Great work. I'll be buying a phone from you soon.
Excellent video!
Amazing video and sound quality and background as well!
Thank you!
Yes we need to seperate from big tech
@Evoke Spirit I wish I knew for sure since I'm not some high tech guru or engineer. But what if maybe consume less of the the big tech giants apps and services (which I know is easier said than done because they monopolise so fast). They do afterall also need us to stay afloat, people could encourage manufactures to make products that aren't so reliant on the same ol big tech companies, by purchasing those alternatives. But idk.
And crowdfund/popularize competitors.
@Evoke Spirit The solution is that 75 millions people who voted for Republican Party to cancel all Big Tech and this way they will see how wrong it is to mess with the people who love freedom. Just look at Twitter how they lost 10 billions in just a thew days by banning Trump account and that was so wrong that that even Angela Merkel said it was wrong to do that...
Well to us Boomers. A few EMP Bombs would almost knock us back to the stone age. Imagine the Chaos Snowflake and milanuts would commit mass suicide. I have a little off the grid pad. Oh what fun that would be. 🤣🤣
@@wanee8039 If that's your reason to seperate from big tech, that's awesome. We all should regardless since all these companies are basically monopolies that are forced on our devices.
To De-Google your phone, Its like trying to remove cancer.
Most phones have locked bootloader now. It's a pain watching XDA praying and hoping for certain phone hackers find a way without getting harassed and then quit developing.
And equally satisfying when you succeed.
@@MrCarlosj0 yes but you can always buy older phones that are very good to use. I am happy to use note 8 instead of note 20
@@forgalzz7 pls how can I do it?
Oh, sh*t ..
You are very well informed! Kudos to you! Most won't dare research beyond a YT video or a single article. Much respect!
Dear Rob,
I find your videos very useful. I like the information you share. I also like the way you share them. So your efforts for privacy is worth. Really well done. Thank you.
Who knew how important this video was 3 months ago.
Glad 2 see I’m not the only one who made it here 3 months later😂
I can tell that you`ve never watched Person Of Interest, one of my favorite series :) (2011-2016)
I`ve been climbing down the rabbit hole for more than 20 yrs. That`s why I still have no Google phone. In addition, I have no Facebook and no Twitter account.
I am considering Telegram though.
@@lechat8533 Haha, I don't have FB or Twitter either. I opened a Parler account about two months ago. Now, I don't have a Parler account either. In all seriousness, print media is the last bastion of free speech.
Some of us have been aware of this issue for 3 years or more. Lots of people woke up in 2012.
@@MadCowMusic I'm old. I had know idea you could "De-Google" your phone.
Here because my mother was yelling how she wants to remove Google from her phone and Google algorithms were listening on "muted mic mode...."
Your mom is on to something.
And she probably right...
@Philip M she's not crazy... Google is corrupt.
In my case Google managed to literally read my mind. I have none of that.
lol
Thank you, Rob, for these videos! I just discovered your channel today. I want to get a phone soon & want the best value & privacy I can. Great video.
Another alternative is to use a phone from Gabb Wireless. It has no internet connection, so you can't get apps, but can't be tracked or listened to either. It looks like other smart phones, has good phone service, camera, music, texting, calendar, etc. I got one for my son a year ago and now I am switching to Gabb also. One day I told my son the truck near us was a Cummins diesel and when we got home, on my computer TH-cam suggested a video: Cummins vs standard diesel. That's when I decided to get rid of my phone.
After the last few days rush to fascism by Twitter FB Apple and USGOV this is necessary to investigate
How about the people who caused the actual facsism be called as such... Oh, I'll wait
@@DJ_BROBOT look up Smith-Mundt modernization act Obama put in there legalizing propaganda used against the American people...
@@DJ_BROBOT let's call the left Authoritarians cause that what they fucking arw
ok. the left are nazis, yet again. they really like their brown uniforms.
@Philip M proud boys admitting to being nazis? wow
You’re a hero for doing this. I truly believe steps like this are essential to prevent our downward spiral into a dystopian police state.
It's not looking good
Im am so glad hear others say this. Thete must be more people aware than i thought 👍
new phone and many others are incapable of uninstalling Facebook, its messed up
@@gorderumsi6424 I tried uninstalling TH-cam & Facebook from my phone when I got it.. Impossible. I hate it, I need a deggogled phone
Too late
I am having so much fun binge watching you. It’s rare to find somebody this interesting with this many videos!! I’m a few hours going.
Ty for all you have put up here :)
Woo hoo off I go! 😂
Dude, I remember you from Periscope telling us not to get Zucked. Subscribed.
With what's happening lately, seriously considering decoupling from all this censorship and propaganda from Big Tech.
Do it
Stop considering and do it.
Great info and presentation, thanks Rob!
What an awesomely clear informative man! Just found you. What a treat. 👍
I have a feeling that this guy just got an influx of views and subscribers. You are a modern day hero, and you probably don't know it.
I don’t. I am a bible packing mama and love my babies....let’s rumble!
You do fantastic work. Thanks for letting the world know.
Weird how a internet search site has taking away the privacy of nearly every person on earth . It's almost like it's supernatural ,in a bad way .
..we wrestle ...not...against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities . Leading to he forces all Small and great to take a mark or no access to cash .
...how convenient that we can be located any where we go .
A modern day Paul Revere
Spread the word!
I don't have a phone. I get strange stares from people when I say that. I don't have a twitter and I stopped uploading on instagram, and I'm about to delete my facebook account. Can I say.,I have peace.
Your a gem.. Your smart..
Can't do without a phone but I'm thinking of going back to a Nokia dumb phone.
@@amoniousbt1110 they aren't supported by any providers anymore. I tried this with Verizon. Now even smartphones not at least 4g are not supported. I haven't seen a dumb phone on 4g, and even 4g will be pulled within a year or two. They're backing us into a corner. Personally, not having access to call for cops or ambulance makes me really uneasy.
Truth 👌🏻
Same here
Glad I stumbled across this. I was trying to accomplish this on my own and the video showed me I did much correctly but your video supplied me confirmation and understanding.
Just found your videos and subscribed. Love how you get to the point and explain what these things mean.
My googled phone is listening to my conversations, I was just talking about this subject then youtube suggested this.
Google knows our political leanings and the algorithm is recommending something that we are likely to be interested in given recent events. The question is whether we are comfortable with Google knowing such information about us.
It freeky isn't it.
Its WATCHING YOU also...interpreting you eyes and facial gestures..it knows you better than you know yourself. Get rid of it
Bob Barker can’t watch if u put tape on cameras i do same on laptops lol images them watching while laying in bed watching ur laptop & even watching doing everything else if u leave the screen up & never it close it so i always keep black electric tape over camera & phones too til i need to use em 🤷🏻♀️
@@eddiejeselink2996 you guys are hilarious! I really need to de Google my phone.
Sudden extreme relevance. Liking and commenting for algorithm.
WTF! This video is amazing! I spent hours reading on this stuff. This vid gives all the info (and more) that I wanted to find! Great channel!
so well researched, you deserve all the success.
I've already started the process of getting rid of google permissions. Some of their apps are using your camera, connected to your contact list, your location and these are apps that it makes no sense why they would need any of those things
Right, but my concern is that turning those permissions off doesn't mean they are actually not still doing those things. Like voting, that's likely just a show.
Were you just born today? Nothing is free.
If you think they're going to give you all these satellite services for free without a subscription service and you're just going to be able to use all their storage and all this stuff that separately would cost you $100 a month they're going to sell you ...you are the sellable piece. To know what you are thinking and how to control you and figure you out is the key.
@@MacNifty if something is free your the product
When I got my first smart phone, I tried to disable permissions to everything I didn't understand, but I just kept being notified that they were off. It was really annoying. Google doesn't want us to disable their spyware.
Now if we could just de-google Google off this planet, that would be wonderful.
Money is power and you've got to de-money the G to get rid of it.
Just stop using it.
that statement is very moronic, you are using youtube.. a platform from google
@tommy aronson well you’re here 🤔
@@leandro5221 we need alternative as functional or better than Google were is the good competition?
I love you Privacy ideas and your methods are excellent.
You are the MAN! Thank you sir for your work and sharing this valuable information!! God bless!
God bless you. There's no way I know how to implement the things that you say. But it's nice that there are some people out there still fighting
@cubid The e foundation?
i always wait 6 years before buying a new technology, and now i dont wanna buy it
Ditto
@cubid what exactly is e foundation?
@@corlfranco9371 Why 6?
I’ve been on a big Silicon Valley decoupling binge. Once my devices expire, I’ll be completely cut off from these big tech tyrants.
They have a 12 step program for that 😆
Bravissimo...luv ur delivery ...ur personality mixed with valuable subject matter....great job...
YOU HAVE A GREAT CHANNEL AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WORK.
I'm surprised this video is up and I'm also surprised this guy is still alive.
Seriously! 😬
Is he?
@@MRoachthe1 is this like an existential question about the reality of existence? Or are you actually asking if his videos are still up?
@@tylerdurden4080 I was just surprised that he’s still alive.
@@MRoachthe1 as am I. It's weird
If a company made "clean" phones, they would make all of the money.
I don’t care about money. God takes care of me!
@@orahblank2531 no one asked
The "Light" phone looks promising. They're coming out with a new version that has the most useful apps and basically nothing else. The original Light phone basically didn't have anything at all on it, so it was a little too 'light' for me for the price, but I think it'll be a great product in another year or two.
@@E.Carbenia I hadn't heard about it. I'll have to check it out.
He mentioned Linux phones. They might be hope of a clean phone.
You are genius with the timing! I’ve been looking for vids on how to distance myself as far as possible from the big tech companies.
As we are all currently using a google controlled system
let's say, we use deGoogle phone, without identity, but then,
can Google figure out, our identity from our contact list ?
if so, then our contact list, in the de-Googled phone, maybe also can tell Google our identity,
or if our de-Googled and Google phone are always at the same location,
maybe, Google also can relate our identity into the de-Googled phone ?
if SOC, wifi module, and baseband modem, has their own OS and drivers,
then, does it mean, the de-Googled phone also cannot help ? since it only replace the Android OS,
can the de-Googled phone and faraday bag prevent privacy threat by ultrasonic sound ?
Thank you, Rob. I have been trying to disassociate from Google recently, but was unsure how to manage most it, or if it was possible with our phones. (Androids) Going to do my best to attempt this with mine. In April, our last phone is off of service contract. And I'm so relieved to know we are able to purchase deGoogled phones as necessary. Not all heroes wear capes..you are so appreciated. I'm going to try to send some you phone business, friend. All that I can. Be well and happy.
I have been concerned about contact tracing in light of Covid-19 and seeing a policeman admitting they monitor Facebook. Deleted Facebook immediately. I don't use much digital tech and will use even less in the future. Frankly afraid of people and knowing the history of Communism and totalitarian states and how easily my people are giving up their civil rights to the government for 'safety' I'm even more so.
Cohen19 is a hoax for globalhomo Flu world Order
If your worried about covid tracing ditch bluetooth phones
@@newfoundling9275 So modern androids to appear to give you control over what functions a given app has permission to use, and between the regular settings and enabling developer mode and messing around with those settings, it does appear like you can prohibit most apps from using GPS, bluetooth, wifi - whatever it is that would be used create contact tracing data on an individual.
But obviously I'm skeptical and something tells me that going into my phone and into my google settings and turnibg off all the permissions won't actually have the effect I'm looking for - but I don't have any concrete reason to believe this other than a prejudicial distrust of Google and Samsung.
Anybody know any different? Will contact tracing apps (or what have you) still collect location data even if I've told google to stop saving locations, and just generally turned off all the permissions I can for all the apps I can?
At the end of the day I think whether this works or not presently, the writing's on the wall and as soon as governments and big tecg started talking about using smartphones to track the movement of individuals: we should all see where this is heading, if it's not there already. Namely that the technocratic police state growing around us is going to utlize our dependence on devices to gather "evidence" that coukd potentially be used to justify sending you to a quarantine camp or whatever. It's truly a leveled up version of the East German Stazi.
And when you've got governments and a big tech corpo-borg that's willing to do that, it seems more likely that they'll give you the illusion of being able to opt out of the tracking without actually doing any such thing. But then again, such a relatively small amount of people ever take the time to dig through their google and phone settings and turn off all that privacy invasion stuff that's left on by default, that maybe just adjusting these settings actually does what it tells the user it's doing?
Regardless, I certainly like the look of the Linux phones.Well worth paying a premium in price and the learning curve if it means you won't have your device used against you by authoritarians.
@@murrothbro195 I'm definitely worried about the growing state, that why I'm here
1. Don't download the APP
2. When scanning the code, falsify your INFO
3. Don't be afraid, it's protecting your PRIVACY
Dude was actually doing this BEFORE January 2021-It’s as if he actually knew what was coming!! I admire his moxie and foresight 💟
Google told him.
A lot of people have been talking about this for years and then being laughed at or accused of being paranoid. A few years back, I asked some folks with the tech knowledge to think this through about it and they laughed and called me Fox Mulder, while dismissing the obvious concerns. This video is helpful and all but you'd be surprised at how many people were thinking about this going back more than 5 years.
Not me. I degoogled in 1845. I'm hipster. I invented it
@@BetrayerSlayerMusic meanwhile you POST this VERY COMMENT on a freaking TH-cam ACCOUNT 🤣😂
Yeah OK so edgy...one can’t even leave someone a little credit for a job well done without someone else coming out of the great big irrelevant nowhere of random to steal thunder from my man who is just out here trying to actually make the world a safer place for internet and communication freedom 😏tell me that it is just a really ironic and self depreciating joke
The most you’ve invented here was a way of being your own punchline
th-cam.com/video/hQ6CClY4Tt8/w-d-xo.html
Definitely subscribed AND going to find your library channel. I am looking forward to doing this and laptop hopefully.
THANK YOU!!😊
You're brilliant good Sir. Bless you and yours!
Now, I understand why my phone's bluetooth turns on at times when I have not activated it. I even hardly use my bluetooth.
My GPS pops itself on...
Google Assistant has been turning on without me saying anything. So has Google maps. 😠
@@dbabbit5286 same here
@@RichardEnglander for the past few years, i think it was android 6 or 7, the 'off' button for a lot of things literally just turns off 3rd party permissions. it doesnt actually turn it off. thats why battery life doesnt get better when you turn it off. it isnt more efficient than before, it just never turns off
let's say, we use deGoogle phone, without identity, but then,
can Google figure out, our identity from our contact list ?
if so, then our contact list, in the de-Googled phone, maybe also can tell Google our identity,
or if our de-Googled and Google phone are always at the same location,
maybe, Google also can relate our identity into the de-Googled phone ?
if SOC, wifi module, and baseband modem, has their own OS and drivers,
then, does it mean, the de-Googled phone also cannot help ? since it only replace the Android OS,
can the de-Googled phone and faraday bag prevent privacy threat by ultrasonic sound ?
First video and you got my sub, I love your classic cadence. You don't sound overly excited for no reason like many younger TH-camrs, and I appreciate that. You seem more genuine.
Youngsters are on legal amphetamins stuff like ritalin and equivalents.
@@buddhafx5973 yes and they have a forced fake reality show style charisma that just screams salesman to me lol
@@ch3rok33jo3 good point.
@@Grey_World1 Remove unrelated reply ty
Your videos are so informative. Thanks to you. ☺️
I've been rooting my phones always for years now and look for custom roms but don't do something that u don't know about(for new people watching this). Right now i'm using rooted and degoogled phone and how sweet when u have total control of ur phone and how beautiful when ur phone is always fast, stable and secure. Great video btw!!
Lovin my de googled phone! I don't miss any of the google services and Rob is right, battery life easily doubles (I'm actually getting better than that). People should absolutely be more concerned with privacy! Nice informative video Rob.
just turn off the phone altogether and the battery life is longer a hundred fold
This indicates that Android phones constantly phone home. I notice it by my wireless traffic on my router.
Airplane mode has the same result. Increases battery life by maybe 20 times.
Half these accounts that yap about privacy and anti Google are mostly pro ccp or other comi state.
@@riche4you1975 Wut? The commies are worse than google. Almost everyone here simply wants to improve their privacy. It has nothing to do with commie bastards
Didn’t Edward Snowden warn us about this as well.
George orwell did it first
Everyone needs to watch his interview on joe rogan. It was eye opening.
I'm pretty sure Google isn't disclosing it. But still have a way of tracking your phone. Especially with the newest phones.
Yes, He must be imprisoned asap.
@@brianstevens7241 no he should be taught in schools how you shouldn't be corrupted.
This is an amazing resource. Thank you.
All I need now is a list of things I need to consider before De-Googling my business mobile.
Mr. Braxman, enormous thanks for your efforts, your intellect, and your willingness to help your fellow man.
The world needs many more like you.
Its like the late 90s when everyone was stripping IE out of Win98...
Remove the virus iexplore.exe.
@ᚱᛰUᛠӖᚱ ᚦᗩӖϻᛰᚤ I've never heard of this, I just switched to Google Chrome because I thought it was better. This was some 5-10 years ago. Then I started to realize that Google was shady. I was late when it came to tech growing up. I still am kind of.
@ᚱᛰUᛠӖᚱ ᚦᗩӖϻᛰᚤ What's this, a daemon giving helpful advice? What's this sector coming to? Is Firefox a helpful daemon too? 1.
Turn in his apron, does that mean that's all he wore? Must've been nice.
Don't get any funny ideas my firewalls are set to high. 2.
1. (Although I use DDG Browser maybe Firefox is better somehow)
2.( My shtick is a space computer after all. Although in reality sometimes I have to sacrifice security, atleast until one day I can switch to a proper OS, VPN, and start from scratch with security in mind. Until then i'm also stuck using an antivirus although the IPG in the video recommends against it. I need a layer against malware. We're talking an entirely different game-plan here if I start over.)
Good old days of Netscape Navigator as an alternative.
1999 library's taugh google use in all computer classes. I new then google is big tech bro. Does anywho use Ask .com or is it still viable.
I use one of Rob's phones, and I'm now in the no track and no zuck club.
Great to hear ur experience man.👍
Do his phones come with Aurora installed?
@@staciemeyer9649 Yes. Aurora and MicroG are installed. Just put the sim card in and start using.
Initially, I read this as "no zuck cuck" and thought it was better that way.
I remember when Google started to get popular, it was so cute and innocent. It was the good little boy vs all the big monsters, and now look at this!
It was pretty much like today's DuckDuckGo. Definitely, something went wrong along the way...
Always an edifying lesson sir 💯
Wow your videos are fantastic! Thank you for providing this information!
Several years ago, I watched as my mouth dropped open when my elderly aunt held a landline phone in her hand and dialed a few relatives by memory! No numbers were stored on the phone and she didn’t have to look in a phone book.
Wow. You must be young.....lol. um ya....anyone over 40 has done this. We remembered all our friends and families phone numbers
I remember stopping at pay phones ($0.10) and hoping they had usable phone books in them to look up information when out and about.
I still remember my friends numbers from before cells and have trouble remembering my own phone number now, let alone anyone else's.
Wow, I agree with the other guy. You must be really young. 😁
I still remember old and newer house numbers we had. Grandparents. I know my grandfathers Dog tag number...my NC and SC driver lic. number, and my old and newer debit card. Its like remembering lyrics to a song.
The timing of this video showing up is hilarious. Sounds too complicated for me. I miss my old brick phone
We probly got cancer from all the battery power holding up to our heads.
It's simple start with identity, get rid of or obscure that and they can't get useful info on you because they wont know who you are. Try to get a de-google'd phone but more importantly; use cell data until you get a VPN; bytzVPN. On cellular data only your carrier can spy on you.
@@MadCowMusic So vpn is an easier solution to de-google? Just trying to understand
let's say, we use deGoogle phone, without identity, but then,
can Google figure out, our identity from our contact list ?
if so, then our contact list, in the de-Googled phone, maybe also can tell Google our identity,
or if our de-Googled and Google phone are always at the same location,
maybe, Google also can relate our identity into the de-Googled phone ?
if SOC, wifi module, and baseband modem, has their own OS and drivers,
then, does it mean, the de-Googled phone also cannot help ? since it only replace the Android OS,
can the de-Googled phone and faraday bag prevent privacy threat by ultrasonic sound ?
This is the first video I've seen of yours, great content! The audience base seems like it could use a bit more evidence based modeling at times though lol
Would love to see a more updated video like this one, since this industry is always evolving. thx
You are a formidable presenter, with an admirable ability to keep it concise and filler-free. Not a word wasted. You've managed to keep a one-shot video interesting and fully informative for over 20 minutes.
Indeed.
let's say, we use deGoogle phone, without identity, but then,
can Google figure out, our identity from our contact list ?
if so, then our contact list, in the de-Googled phone, maybe also can tell Google our identity,
or if our de-Googled and Google phone are always at the same location,
maybe, Google also can relate our identity into the de-Googled phone ?
if SOC, wifi module, and baseband modem, has their own OS and drivers,
then, does it mean, the de-Googled phone also cannot help ? since it only replace the Android OS,
can the de-Googled phone and faraday bag prevent privacy threat by ultrasonic sound ?
This video is heavily edited? Not saying he's not a good presenter but it's definitely not one shot.
It seems like degoogling could be a viable business model for a motivated entrepreneur.
It’s already happened.
@@Hopeful1s just pretend like you have that buisness and google will buy you sight unseen for millions.
Perhaps you missed the part of the video where Brax said he sells degoogled phones and also provides degoogling services for your phone that you ship to him. 🤔
Does it? I wish I was smart enough to to understand and pay attention well enough to learn phone technology to the expert level, so I could be a baller.
@@Hopeful1s ya join the elite sounds like a plan
Finally! Subbed so fast. Thank you 🙏
Youre awesome, buddy... keep up the GREAT work!!
I have used Signal for many years and tried to convince friends and family to use it as well. I was aware of the meta data problem, and especially my phone number and contact list. This video was never the less eye-opening experience, and you got a new subscriber. Thank you!
signal is a scam. If you want a chat messenger that is actually secure use tox. signal requires a phone number and google play services for use. It's advertised as private yet the technology is as far from private as it gets. Tox is decentralized and requires zero personal information to use.
And bizarrely signal is not available from f-droid and requires gapps. I've not installed it for that reason.
Yeah any app that requires phone# is completely compromised. @nixops on Twitter showed that you can easily exploit the phone# / sms process to impersonate people without their knowledge, and intercept messages to them and send responses to intercepted messages without anybody being the wiser. I think they left it as a backdoor for LEO. Scary... Idk why you can't log in with just login + pwd + TOTP 2fa, why does literally no messaging app allow that? Highly suspicious. Or how about logging in with a yubikey. Actually sorry Wire is the one messaging app that you can log on with email/pwd
@alvaro ruiz wickr is founded by inqtel which is CIA’s tech arm
@@RandyRandersonthefamous is it tox or tok?
I’m looking for an alternative to WhatsApp to talk to family in Brazil...
Getting a degoogle in this times sound pretty good .
Thank you so so so much for your work and your information!!!
May God bless and protect you Rob!
This is brilliant! I'm 59 and I understand it all. Love this. I agree why our phone batteries drain so quickly. Makes total sense.
Oh the irony of google recommending me this video.
Ive been thinking lately that i need to "de-google" my personal devices, this video is the push i needed, time to get back into the custom rom scene.
Same here this sounds great
Would be great to have a phone like this when combined with proto mail. And dckduckgo
Foreal
Hi Rob, thanks for the info regarding big brother; I’m currently using a IPhone 6; a few months ago I bought a Wiley fox of ideal world, I believe it is a British product, are you able to de- google either of these phones? If so, how much would it cost, if it isn’t possible then what have you got available?
A friend showed me your channel and this is pretty awesome. I'm not a privacy hardcore person by any means, but my discontent for companies and software trying to siphon every possible detail has annoyed me for some time now.
welcome!
Thank you for this very good and helpful information.
I experienced the opposite this week . I moved back to using Google services and I felt so creeped out, I de-googled it again
@@Kyle-ph5hc why bad?
I know what you mean, I had been slowly getting off of most Google services but then I started working with an office that uses the whole Google suite so i had to reinstall a bunch of crap on my phone. It doesn't feel good...
How do you degoogle ??
@@onlybugwit In the extremely fortunate event you use linux and have a Galaxy S3 GT-i9300.. Here is my guide: installtekz.com/linux-mint-guide-root-custom-rom-a-samsung-galaxy-s3-i9300/
@@installtekzdotcom9777 what of I use an older blackberry phone? Would this help protect me from being tracked, and keep private
At first, when I decided to de-googled my phone, I missed it really really badly........
Then I reloaded and the second shot got it right through the processor !!!
Worked great!!
LMAO!! YOU FUNNY!! I like Your thinking!!! TY!!
let's say, we use deGoogle phone, without identity, but then,
can Google figure out, our identity from our contact list ?
if so, then our contact list, in the de-Googled phone, maybe also can tell Google our identity,
or if our de-Googled and Google phone are always at the same location,
maybe, Google also can relate our identity into the de-Googled phone ?
if SOC, wifi module, and baseband modem, has their own OS and drivers,
then, does it mean, the de-Googled phone also cannot help ? since it only replace the Android OS,
can the de-Googled phone and faraday bag prevent privacy threat by ultrasonic sound ?
Very informative. My first e-reader was a non-android android. It worked well enough.
My degewg phone is on its way to me, and I've been feeling anxious about having to use all different apps. Thanks for all this info, Rob.
My one dislike about OSMand is that when you get directions, it will only give you one route, unlike ggl maps which gives you a choice of 2 or 3.
it seems the only way to maintain a freedom of expression is to be in full control of your own private network.
Including the communication highways (eg: att, Verizon, T-Mobile can track and block communications).
You cannot connect to the whole world and keep security, or privacy.
@@markdouglas8073yeah common sense