Thanks for letting me know about the little editing mistake at around 7 minutes, I didn’t cut anything, just cut too soon before the end of a sentence and left a bad take in… and at 10:00, it’s obviously 17% not 1%. I had a migraine all day, and apparently it affected the quality of the video, sorry ! Download the free guide to learn how to improve your Linux system patching workflow: tuxcare.com/downloadables/how-the-modern-sysadmin-does-patching/?The%20Linux%20Experiment&
mfw the year of Linux desktop joke is becoming less and less of a joke (I'm terrified because I have very few jokes remaining due to being a Linux user)
You've got government controlled OSs . Why did Torvalds say he refused advances from the NSA to put back doors into the kernel? The clear implication was windows already has them
@@avidwriter2882 🤔 Azure cloud offers both linux and windows VMs, so there is something to it. On the other hand: people tend to want to use the same OS at home and work. When working from home it's nice to have the same OS. Also people tend to choose what they're familiar with. That's why a LOT of paid software has educational licenses and is paying universities. By the time someone graduates, he will most likely use the same junk that he is accustomed to.
@@avidwriter2882 i think for home users its just an advertisement platform for onedrive and office and also to get them hooked an thus force businesses to to deal with windows bc thats what people know
Same here! Microsoft is definitely pushing people out, and Gaming's becoming better too - literally no reason to use it (esp considering most non-OEM installs are pirated, so people want a free alternative anyways)
@@yorimirus I firmly believe that, no matter what anyone else says, Linux can and will eventually co-exist with Windows and macOS on the desktop PC market, especially SteamOS, in the case of the former.
@@roccociccone597 Turkey/Turkish(Türkçe) neden lanet okudun ki? /10 yıl boyunca Linux kullanman, mükemmel bir şey; sen bir kassam tugayısın --------------------------------------------------------------------- English(İngilizce) Why did you cast a curse? / Using Linux for 10 years is an amazing thing;You are the Qassam Brigade.
I switched to Linux this year, multiple times (distro hoping) and have had almost no problems on my Asus ROG. It has been an easy switch and I actually enjoy using my PC again. BTW I landed on Kubuntu. KDE Plasma is really good so far. Scaling and multi monitor works really well. The only things I don't have is a good alternative to ROG specific software like Armory Crate and of course access to most competitive online games, but I'm not much in the scene anymore.
@GresSimJa I'm pretty sure Debian 13 will come with at least Plasma 6.3 when it releases, given Plasma 6.3 is almost here. Note that they are (unfortunately) officially dropping Intel/AMD 32 bit systems from the distro with this version, so that's that piece of bad news. That being said, those systems are super old and 4 GB of RAM max isn't very good in 2025.
Seeing how microsofts dev containers mainly use debian and testing/sid branches are still being updated. It's not going to go away when companies and hobbiests are relying on it.
I am German and I work in IT. Often enough for the public sector. My personal experience is that most of the time they are completely helpless and absolute dependent on software from Redmond. But I haven’t given up hope yet. If there is one chance that Linux and OpenSource can be successful and get more market share, it will be because the public sector adopts it for reasons of digital sovereignty (no matter the cost). I do hope that they will someday realize that you can’t run a sovereign country in the EU on a corporate cloud based in the US or China. All the mid-sized private companies here seem to be lost to the MS Cloud already... 😐
Develop the application layer, then recompile/port to an OS of choice - if you're wanting some bloc/sovereign non US dominated tech OS architecture. I'm following what Huawei is doing with Harmony as it scales across device/ use cases. Ditto hardware choices like the OpenRISC. Of course the real issue that determines sovereignty is who has the power to create money. As you point out most western US client states are completely absorbed into using US tech solutions.
with trust in the reliability and stability of the US going completely downhill due to Trump coming back, with China looking like it’s developing in an even more hostile direction and with the renewed interest in Europe to be able to stand on its own feet and be more independent due to the precarious security architecture of Europe and the world (especially considering the importance of good cybersecurity, as we have seen with continued Russian cyber attacks), there’s certainly a very good chance for this sort of stuff to become big!
The moment M$ revealed Win11 I started paying WAYYYY more attention to the Linux ecosystem as a whole. It's the only salvation in this AI ridden space.
AI is not a problem. It's just a tool. With all things ruining society, it is corporate greed$$/1% shareholders that is the culprit to the problems. AI integration and use is inevitable. Instead change the economic system were billionaire oligarchs and their corporate monopolies own everything.
@@terminalvelocity4858 At this point, Microsoft needs to accept their defeat and discontinue the entire Windows family for good. Windows is no longer fit to compete with Linux or macOS in the Desktop PC market. Absolutely all Big Tech companies need to double down on full-fledged software compatibility with all existing Linux distros, and Microsoft and Adobe are no exceptions.
been hearing this for so long, i would switch right now to linux if it was actually big, i do so many things, that linux alone just is just hassle because of lack of support, i dont care if it beats windows or not i need more people to care about it before i can, otherwise i hate windows but i can put up and use it without issue, so hearing year of linux so many years with so little improvement is getting annoying and feels like nothing actually changed
IIRC, stat counter uses web browser user agents to get its OS market share info. So people who have Steam Decks that never use a browser may not be included in their charts
Maybe yes maybe no. The steam store is basically running in a chromium browser. If valve is using statcounter on their store pages then it might get reported.
@@askeladden450 Yeah this goes back to my main comment on the video. Linux is at 4.13 but ChromeOS is also at 1.89. For an application developer those are the same and so it is 6%. There is also the unknown category at 6.41%. You could argue that those could be windows and OSX systems but I would argue that those OSs don't give the user nearly as much control to modify things that would actually break the reporting statcounter does. I feel it would be much more likely that those systems are actually running one of the hundreds of Linux distros out there and have successfully obfuscated their systems. So to sum it up I think Linux's market share should be considered at least 6% but that it could be as high as 12%.
Been working on and using Linux for over 3 decades. It is great to see what is going on with the desktop side over the last several years. It really is amazing.
Dude you work ridiculously hard on your channel and it really shows. I've been subbed since the early days and I've always been impressed with the quality and frequency of your vids. Keep up the good work king.
I switched to linux this year! The final straw was seeing ads in my windows 11 start menu. Other than CAD everything works well, and the only big issue I have is that error handling and recovery is still pretty bad
With decently priced license keys widely available, it seems that Microsoft is using Windows ad revenue to compensate for the profit that came from their own overpriced licenses.
That's nonsensical. I've not seen an ad on Windows 11, ever. But I have seen thousands on my Android (Linux) phone. So which one is worse? LOL I guess I should switch to an Apple phone, right? Cause, my Linux phone is bloated with ads and spyware.
Before we force "the year of wayland" can we at least push the devs to be a bit less stubborn and actually allow windowing and decorations to be handled directly by the protocol, it's a pain in the ass right now writing GUI software for wayland, you're basically forced to either write a bunch of code targeting for different compositors manually or pull in the entire gnome/gtk toolchain or the qt/kde toolchain as a dependancy to do things that took 6 lines of code and no deps on X11. It's absurd that the easiest/most efficient way to make a proper window on wayland is to do it in X11 and just let XWayland handle it for you. Mouse and keyboard sharing software also still don't work correctly on ANY wayland compositor, there's still tons of lockups and crashes on intel and broadcom cards, and broken support for working on televisions
@@benjaminford8173 Did you try GPU-Passthru-Manager ? , it's a gui app that will do all the driver blacklisting and adding VFIO dummy driver to your desired GPU
@@benjaminford8173 in virt-manager all you have to do is click "add" and select pci device, and select every device in that video card's IOMMU group and it should just work, i've never had issues doing pass-through like that. My only real complaint about virt-manager is that for some reason you still have to manually add evdev mapping in the xml, there's no option for it in the gui....
That statement makes no sense. I run Windows, so I wouldn't give a toss whether a game runs on Linux. Linux users would likely not buy a game that they can't run.
@@TheLinuxEXPImagine DaVinci Resolve not being the only professional nonlinear video editor on Linux... That would be awesome, and hopefully would push DaVinci to actually take Linux seriously.
I'm pretty happy with DaVinci Resolve. What I need is some open source AI image generation tooling worked into Gimp, as well as WAY more stuff for Ardour
Gaming did not get worse... it may have slowed in improvements, or not met the goals people wanted, but it has not declined in any way. Things work better than ever.
@@AMabud-lv7hyOr maybe games are becoming more and more complex and developing time shorter? I think this is a far more realistic conclusion than yours.
@@AMabud-lv7hy An excuse or an observation of a person that actually knows how the business works? You sound like a kid talking about things he barely understands.
@ Threat interactive made multiple videos on how unoptimized modern games are, developers doing bare minimum and dump it all on gpu requirements. Go back to minecraft kiddo
3:22 Windows 11 is exactly why I switched to Linux after making excuses for the stuff I didn't like about Windows 10 and 8 for years. Windows 11 was so incredibly irritating every. single. day. It was the last straw that pushed me to explore my options on Linux. It hasn't been perfect, like I'm on Nvidia with KDE and can't use Wayland because of this really bad uneven framerate even on the desktop itself (it's extremely noticeable and distracting). And I had to get a new audio interface because my old one was completely unsupported. And I still have to keep a backup install of Windows 11 for edge cases (my music software and plugins don't play nice on Linux, and a lot of mods for games rely on stuff that is a nightmare to set up on Linux). It makes it hard for me to recommend this to most people, but for me, despite these workarounds, overall I'm much happier. I think the fact that I'm willing to put up with all of that shows you just how much I've despised using Windows 11, and I went into it with a pretty positive mindset lmao
6:45 I don't want a "government controlled" OS but I like the idea that European governments invest in open source. Considering how much they spent on licensing windows and MS office it should be even more. But I'm afraid this good work might come to an end after the next federal election in Germany at the end of February.
I don't think we've entered The Year of the Linux Desktop™ just yet but I think 2024/2025 is going to be the point that people will identify as the inflection point, where Linux finally gained traction and started on a steady and inevitable upwards trend. I feel like were a long way off of Linux cornering that critically important 10% of regular desktop users having Linux as their daily driver (and not just niche deployments of Linux like the Steam Deck which throw off the demographics.) Once we hit 10% of regular users on Linux as their daily, that's going to be something like 1 in 2 or 1 in 4 tech savvy types being on Linux in practice (since they tend to be the most inclined to change and you probably only get 1 tech savvy person out of a room of 10 or 20 people) and that's when grandma and grandpa will get transitioned over to Mint and where there will be so many Linux ambassadors online and irl that the more casual and less tech-minded PC users will start jumping ship because this will lower the barrier to entry by an immense amount since most people will have access to at least one personal connection to someone who can deal with troubleshooting and all of that stuff.
4% of the desktop market is f-ing HUGE! Remember, Mac has traditionally only had 16% (it's up recently because of the M-chips, we will see how long that lasts). So getting 25% of the Mac market, again I think that is huge.
Still, we should all want delevopment efforts like that - it'll inevitably put more resources into various FOSS platforms and projects - even though private users most likely won't wish to run an EU backed distro we would still benefit.
The Indian government made their own Linux Distro based on Ubuntu for confidential and mission-critical applications. Also, New Linux user from India Let's goooooooo 🔥
Linux marketshare I want to address something that is often overlooked fact. While the gaming marketshare in Linux is relatively low, the user base is even more hungry for new games. Windows gaming market is a little bit saturated, while in Linux there is still potential. In example for multiplayer games, there is not too much to choose from in Linux. Plus the additional free marketing that games supporting Linux will get should not be underestimated too. So additionally supporting Linux can have a huge initial boost for the games reputation and marketing.
I switched to Linux this year after using only Windows for my entire life. It's a little uncomfortable sometimes learning to change the way I use my computer but Windows has gone too far with the privacy violations.
I switched to opensuse tumbleweed from windows last week after a power outage corrupted my windows install, I can't believe how simple everything was to set up. So far, I can play all the games and use all the programs I did on windows with minor adjustments and almost no digging around in the terminal. I wasn't sure what to expect since I heard nvidia cards are bad on linux, but I'm using wayland with 4 monitors that have different scaling with very few hiccups. The only thing I will need to tinker with to get working is sleep mode, which isn't a huge deal for me tbh
@@ZoroBoiInd_laman I installed openSUSE on a second SSD, I haven't tried but I should still be able to boot into my broken windows installation from the GRUB bootloader. This weekend I need to sort everything out, but I plan on using openSUSE as my daily driver and have windows dualbootable for some fringe use cases, like my VR and my racing sim set ups
@@giorgos-4515 I wrote a really long reply but I guess youtube doesn't like me putting URLs in comments 🥲. I only ended up needing Lutris for 1 specific game (I downloaded lutris as well as most of my software through YasT and followed a tutorial for the 1 game I wanted to use it with, but I supplied my own .exe to use with lutris), the rest of my games just work right from steam, just go to "Settings -> Compatability -> Enable Steam Play for All Other Titles" to enable proton for non linux native games, and check protondb for game compatibility before you install
A distro stamped 'EU' or officially supported/used by governments and public institutions could use instead of a full Windows landscape WILL certainly help. Windows entered the housed because it was use in the office, and all went in the offices because it was used at home.Just use another distro if you don't like that.
I've been wanting to fully jump into Linux for years, but there's always that one game I'm obsessed with that I can't play there, plus I do streaming as well and obs is lacking in some areas on Linux, at least so I hear. For the time being, I'm still gonna cling to windows 10 for as long as I can. If there's a major shift with the anticheat issue that would be my signal to jump ship at last!
When people hesitate on Linux, I tell them try not to make it Windows. We are all creatures of habit, so to make Linux work, you have to wrap your head around doing things a little differently than we're used to and learn something new, just like we all did with Windows in the beginning. After a month or two of using Linux, everything makes sense and you see what a great OS it is. With that said, keep things SIMPLE, don't over-complicate. This is where so many go south and are put off. A lot of times with Linux, less is more. OBS works mostly flawless now, even on Wayland. As far as games, 99% of them run just fine (and a lot of times better) on Linux. This is especially true if you are using Steam. For all other cases, the use of WineGE works amazingly well. Linux support has improved exponentially over the last 5 years. I've been using it now for 16 and will never turn back.
@@terminalvelocity4858 When it comes to OBS its mostly a Wayland thing yeah so I expect any remaining features will be updated thanks to Wayland's increased prevalence. As for games I don't expect everything, hell, not all my games even run on Windows without significant fixing! But for the games I really really enjoy, anti cheat is a huge hurdle. I have a little notepad I use to keep track of the remaining games on my must play list that don't run and its pretty small (and even decreased since I wrote it). When I do move over it'll suck to lose them but I'll still have most of my games, and I made an effort outside of gaming to use open source (eg Libre office, Gimp) or otherwise Linux friendly programs like Da Vinci Resolve (although last time I tried to get Da Vinci working on Linux it was a bit of a nightmare tbh.)
That's extremely subjective, I have yet to see Wayland even load at all on my RTX 4090 without using Fedora. I hate Fedora and would rather just deal with the quirks in Xorg. Every time a new Nvidia driver comes out I install it, try Wayland, and every time I get a blank black screen with a blinking white cursor.
Having daily-driven Linux for over 20 years, I've gotta say your videos are my favorite Linux news delivery format I've found! Your channel keeps getting better and better and keeps me excited about the future of Linux!
I think the largest contributor to the move to Linux is the Microsoft software that many people are moving away from. I'm making the move to Linux right now and have downloaded Linux Mint. I'm trying to learn it right now. I'm on this W10 computer now, but at the end of service, I'll also upgrade this computer to some distro of Linux.
I'm a chronic distrohopper, but I always seem to come back to Fedora. I tried to use Windows again on my main PC over the holidays, but it was honestly a frustrating experience. It really bothers me how little control I have over my system, it does things without asking or it just doesn't let me change some stuff. Linux is not perfect, far from it. I still have an issue of my bluetooth adapter not being picked up about half the time the PC boots up or wakes from sleep, but it's a lot better than what else is out there.
Last year 2 of my friends started using linux in their gaming setup. For me, for my teen son, windows was never even an option. I've played Hell let loose lately. Son's putting his hours in the RDR2.
Windows as a whole is rapidly declining in popularity nowadays, and Linux’s popularity is steadily but surely increasing. At this rate, Microsoft’s days of dominating the PC market through their Windows family of operating systems will eventually be over. Windows is already too far gone for redemption, especially when there are too many bugs to be fixed. It’s completely beyond repair. At this point, Microsoft has only two choices: throw in the towel on Windows and start doubling down on application support for Linux, or risk shutting down forever. Windows as a whole simply cannot continue to compete with Linux anymore, especially not with the advent of Valve’s Steam Deck and their Linux-based SteamOS, the latter which will be made available to all PC users later this year.
I agree with your assessment of windows, I disagree with your assessment of people. As long as PC's come with windows preinstalled it will keep market share dominance. People in general are stubbornly lazy and even if linux were to pay people to install many just would not do it.
I guess you’re right. Those who strongly prefer Windows, even with all those excessive bugs, don’t have the energy, time, or any experience to switch to Linux, or they flat-out don’t want to take any mandatory Linux classes or watch any video tutorials on how to install and use Linux like a pro. It’s going to take a whole lot more than those excessive BSOD’s and irreparable hardware failures to permanently drive people away from Windows in favor of Linux. Still, with support for Windows 10 being discontinued later this year, the only viable way to keep those officially outdated PC’s out of the landfill is to replace Windows 10 with a beginner-friendly Linux distro like Linux Mint. Then again, even if one was experienced enough to do just that, internal hardware failure is still inevitable, and that old PC will succumb to that failure and die. And on top of that, there will soon be no more replacement parts left for those old PC’s, not even in the used market on eBay. Therefore, those old PC’s will eventually and inevitably end up in the landfill, no matter what OS is being used. It’s also inevitable that Linux will never be able to compete with Windows at all. It’s just plain hopeless.
The other factor playing a huge role, though, is the degree to which Windows is deeply embedded in the business sector. I doubt MS is even worried about the market for home users. Their big failure in domestic computing was years ago when they badly fumbled becoming a player in the smartphone market. Most people just have phones these days - laptop and desktop PCs are only of real importance to MS as office machines.
Honestly I think all the major linux projects aiming at building a larger desktop userbase need to start donating to OnlyOffice. If that suite can reach feature parity with MSOffice it would be game changing.
I think desktop linux is "ready" now but it has only been so for a short time. I think this happened after the steam deck launched and proton became usable. People wont actually switch to linux if they're constantly having to boot back into windows for stuff because they'll just get complacent and stay in windows. 2024 was the first year I was able to use linux and basically never have to reboot into windows.
As for distro packages not getting better, I think that what we're seeing with atomic systems is the direction we might see being gone there, at least for issues with in-place updating and the like.
Some sound issues around the 7:00 mark, but we all know how hard you work on this. You are basically my mainstream Linux update channel, I trust what you provide. I would also like a link to your Warhammer channel. Je parle francais, alors ce n'est pas une probleme pour moi!
what really helped me was the ai advancements. having someone help me write terminal commands has really helped me with the learning curve. Also, warp terminal with built in AI has been a game changer. I just type in plain language what I want to do, and it does it.
We need an independent wayland panel with taskbar, wayland dock, and a conky like application for wayland floating window managers. It would be great with something like labwc.
Another thing to note about the Linux desktop market share is that while it might not be big, most of its users have well paying jobs in the field of tech (mainly developers), so they have the disposable income to spend money on software / games.
But there are a lot of cheap pirates over here too, I have been one of them and I'm sure a lot of aspiring tech savvy users are on the same boat I once was
Part 2 if the info is enough for it to be worth it, or include more things in other areas that were also missed in this one, like the KDE funding for example, the umu stuff and such
@@cameronbosch1213 doubtfull. The reason you'd want the Deck 2 is because it has Valve and Steam behind it. You need the handheld to be cheap and good. The deck is sold at a loss or close to one. Same for the Switch. All other handhelds are sold at for a profit. Not many people willing to pay $1000 USD before tax for a handheld. Valve, Sony and Nintendo can recoup costs from the sales they make on their stores. Asus, Lenovo, MSI can not. The Lenovo Legios Go S will not even make a dent unfortunately. Even if it does run Steam OS, it won't help much if any.
Windows in its current state is too far gone for redemption. Its popularity is dwindling over time, and Linux is slowly but surely catching up. It seems like those excessive bugs that are affecting Windows 11 24H2 are finally driving users to switch from Windows to Linux. In the event that Microsoft finally throws in the towel on Windows for good and concedes its loss to Linux, Valve should make a Desktop Edition of SteamOS for all subsequent desktops and laptops on the market. In SteamOS Desktop Edition, the OS would boot to the KDE desktop by default instead of Gaming Mode. However, for those who have a gamepad, users could switch to Gaming Mode at any time.
@@ZacharyNoah Windows 10 had multiple updates that ERASED people's files. People did not move then and they will not move now. Linux is not growing because windows sucks.
I still don’t see why people would rather put up with those endless BSOD’s in Windows than watch any tutorials on how to install and use Linux like a pro. It’s like they’re too afraid of trying new and different things.
Even without all the declarative stuff... nix is awesome as a package manager. You can run things only once and it wont dirty the system, use things with conflicting dependencies, and then install stuff like other managers I also believe its possible to make games work with proton and tricks... like, you run one file and it would "just work"™
Unknown is likely MOSTLY also going to be Linux, with a pinch of FreeBSD and an even tinier pinch of Haiku + whatever else. There is nothing other than Linux that would show up as unknown that is _also_ that popular. That means Linux is most likely by far the 2nd biggest operating system in India, which is pretty cool. Africa also has initiatives for support of Linux, and Africa is the continent of the future, which you know... Makes you think, don't it? As for me: This was my year of Linux. Around the time Linux went up in September I decided to try out Linux for the first time in my life. I am now only daily driving Linux. I went from someone who never installed an OS on my own, to distrohopping a ton until I finally settled on the classic: Arch on the Desktop/Debian on the Laptop combo. The best rolling and stable distros for my usage cases. Here's to Linux and the future!
Fact is, Linux fans can jump through hoops of mental gymnastics forever, but Windows will still win as a desktop OS. Why? Because its better, it's free upgrades for most users, and people will pay if they have to, because Linux just doesn't cut it.
That's easy to say and is almost completely true. The world is moving towards Unix, one way or another. (Linux, macOS, and even Haiku, the open source BeOS reimplementation, are all Unix-like, and Windows has WSL2.)
14:48 I may be wrong but I only use flatpak on command line and as user and it never asks for permission escalation in my experience. I know its not perfect for multi-user systems but it works well for me as a single user and I don't need root access.
I think that what is driving the increase in the Linux desktop is Microsoft trying to force Windows 11 down peoples collective throats alongside its TPM requirements which means it can't officially be supported on a lot of machines despite them being more than powerful enough to be useful. After all, if you are facing having to replace all your systems with more modern versions which could cost you $1000's per unit you'd might as well try out the free alternative operating system.
I used to daily drive Linux back in the late 90's and early 2000's but switched to Windows due to the poor software support at the time. I've used Windows exclusively for about 15 years now, but I did so begrudgingly. Microsoft's invasive and anti consumer practices finally crossed a line for me and I've been looking for an excuse to switch, the only thing holding me back was concerns over game support. I switched to Fedora a week or so ago, and so far the experience has been amazing. Every game has worked out the box for me, Proton is amazing! Yes I've broken my OS about three times already, but that was all from my own actions, and to be honest I've really been enjoying piecing it back together. I've probably learned more about how my system works in a week on Linux than I did with years of Windows use. Yes some things are cumbersome to figure out, but I've even managed to get cracked windows software working through Wine with minimal amounts of tweaking. I'm never going back.
2027 could be the year of the Linux desktop, 2025 I think will pave the way to getting there, we are already so close, the desktop is imo ready as it is but with a bit more polish it will be amazing!
Okay, nice to know! But please tell us what exactly the year of the Linux Desktop is. Highest Marketshare? Second highest Market share? More than 10%? Or Just good enough for everyone to use?
@ yeah lol it’s been consumer ready for a while now, but it’s majorly improved these past years when it comes to user friendliness, and I think it can improve even more, but yeah the main measure atleast imo is reaching 10% lol
@PenguinByte yes, i belive User friendliness Starts with the newer immutable systems. They avoid all those nasty Update issues and package conflicts due to Classic package Management. Something Like bluefin/bazzite is customer ready for average users, or very Close to that. So we agree 2027 reaching 10% and having solved the remaining Integration issues of flatpaks would be feasiable?
I am worried! Ubuntu Budgie uses Plank dock. I have heard that Plank doesn't work in Wayland. Please, will there be another dock made available to replace Plank once Budgie DE 11 is released? Thank you very much in advance.
I got a 7800x3d and 7900 xtx and i cant install lastest windows 11 ISO with the clean install, i have to first install windows 10 and run a product server command line install, without it i cant install it, Microsoft forgot to add drivers for the 7000 cpu/chipset says it needs drivers, worked in the last iso. On Linux Wine dont have Wayland support yet, yes there is if you compile it with '--with-wayland' argument but none of the build binaries have it, GE and the others dont have it yet.
I tried multiple times in the past to completely switch to linux, and last year i was finally able to do it. Work and Gaming were holding me up, but now everything just works, and better. 100% Windows and MacOS free baby
Flatpak is by far the best format and the closest to being the 'default' IMO. If Cononical had joined with Flatpak instead of focusing on Snaps for dubious reasons, Flatpak would probably already be the default.
Unfortunately, I can't do a complete switch to Linux because I have specific software that only runs on windows. I tried a VM but that just didn't work well enough and made the software too slow. Wine didn't work either. So stuck on windows. ☹
Imo the issue with flatpak is that it increases the apps size a lot. I know that it is safer than shared dependencies, but when I see my pc which only contains nix packages and don't have remaining soace on its drive, I think I would never switch to flatpak. I think system packages are enough stable, even on arch and nixos "unstable". I've never had any problems on arch, and NixOS unstable when the update fail I just have to wait a few days until it's fixed, and my pc is still working as before during this time. I know that it's still not as good as direct releases from the package author, but at least the packages will work fine together. There is no good way in reality: either all packages embed all their dependencies, which gives us bloated app size, either packages share their dependencies, which gives us instability. I don't see any alternative, so I'm not surprised that there aren't many improvements on app packaging, and I doubt there'll be a way to improve that
A lot of interesting stuff ❤ For me, the Wayland progress could be deceiving, as the long awaited Ubuntu session has turned out to be very slow in all but simplest use cases. A lot of extra effort will be needed on Nvidia part, I guess. But hey, Canonical ended up making Snaps reasonable good so I'm hopeful.
Thanks for letting me know about the little editing mistake at around 7 minutes, I didn’t cut anything, just cut too soon before the end of a sentence and left a bad take in… and at 10:00, it’s obviously 17% not 1%. I had a migraine all day, and apparently it affected the quality of the video, sorry !
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7:02 audio fail
The G in Gnome is silent
@@Slinky511nx7 GNU is pronounced with hard g, so so is gnome
It's ok, we still love you!
mfw the year of Linux desktop joke is becoming less and less of a joke (I'm terrified because I have very few jokes remaining due to being a Linux user)
At least we can still find joy in the sheer amount of "Linux ISOs" that we have saved
I use Arch, by the way.
@@RileyMetame with my 128gb usb with ISOs of every linux distro out there:
@askeladden450 even biebian linux?
“…Linux or as I’ve come to call it GNU/Linux…” XD
You've got government controlled OSs .
Why did Torvalds say he refused advances from the NSA to put back doors into the kernel? The clear implication was windows already has them
As my theory suggests M$ wants Win$ to be business only and is slowly killing the home PC market because it makes no money.
@@avidwriter2882 🤔 Azure cloud offers both linux and windows VMs, so there is something to it.
On the other hand: people tend to want to use the same OS at home and work. When working from home it's nice to have the same OS.
Also people tend to choose what they're familiar with. That's why a LOT of paid software has educational licenses and is paying universities. By the time someone graduates, he will most likely use the same junk that he is accustomed to.
@@avidwriter2882I'm not so sure about that. I feel a good reason why it's so popular in business is largely because it's ubiquitous in personal use.
@@avidwriter2882 i think for home users its just an advertisement platform for onedrive and office and also to get them hooked an thus force businesses to to deal with windows bc thats what people know
@@JaredBW lol what? Most homes don't have a PC today
2:36 ayy i'm one of the 13.15%
kinda crazy to think how more than 10% of computers here in india runs linux.
me too
Long time no see
Same here! Microsoft is definitely pushing people out, and Gaming's becoming better too - literally no reason to use it (esp considering most non-OEM installs are pirated, so people want a free alternative anyways)
Is it popular for personal use in india or only at offices and work?
haha, I just made a few of my friends install linux mint on their systems and they're loving it.
2024 is the year I switched to linux. With wayland in its state linux is finally useable for me, even better than windows in certain areas.
it's crazy to me that I did the switch nearly 10 years ago... 2025 will mark the 10 year anniversary for me... Damn
@@yorimirus I firmly believe that, no matter what anyone else says, Linux can and will eventually co-exist with Windows and macOS on the desktop PC market, especially SteamOS, in the case of the former.
@roccociccone597 Damn. Respect for that. I tried linux 3 years ago and it still had quite a lot to be desired for me.
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Why did you cast a curse? / Using Linux for 10 years is an amazing thing;You are the Qassam Brigade.
I switched to Linux this year, multiple times (distro hoping) and have had almost no problems on my Asus ROG. It has been an easy switch and I actually enjoy using my PC again.
BTW I landed on Kubuntu. KDE Plasma is really good so far. Scaling and multi monitor works really well.
The only things I don't have is a good alternative to ROG specific software like Armory Crate and of course access to most competitive online games, but I'm not much in the scene anymore.
Debian has been the best computing experience I've ever had in my life, I hope the project continues for many years to come.
Debian 12 with Plasma 6 would be the perfect OS for my use case.
Debian is probably the most rock solid (but still actually useable) operating system in existence. Itll be around forever
@@GresSimJa it doesn't work like that my friend. Just wait for Debian 13 trixie.
@GresSimJa I'm pretty sure Debian 13 will come with at least Plasma 6.3 when it releases, given Plasma 6.3 is almost here. Note that they are (unfortunately) officially dropping Intel/AMD 32 bit systems from the distro with this version, so that's that piece of bad news. That being said, those systems are super old and 4 GB of RAM max isn't very good in 2025.
Seeing how microsofts dev containers mainly use debian and testing/sid branches are still being updated. It's not going to go away when companies and hobbiests are relying on it.
I am German and I work in IT. Often enough for the public sector. My personal experience is that most of the time they are completely helpless and absolute dependent on software from Redmond.
But I haven’t given up hope yet. If there is one chance that Linux and OpenSource can be successful and get more market share, it will be because the public sector adopts it for reasons of digital sovereignty (no matter the cost). I do hope that they will someday realize that you can’t run a sovereign country in the EU on a corporate cloud based in the US or China. All the mid-sized private companies here seem to be lost to the MS Cloud already... 😐
Develop the application layer, then recompile/port to an OS of choice - if you're wanting some bloc/sovereign non US dominated tech OS architecture. I'm following what Huawei is doing with Harmony as it scales across device/ use cases. Ditto hardware choices like the OpenRISC. Of course the real issue that determines sovereignty is who has the power to create money. As you point out most western US client states are completely absorbed into using US tech solutions.
with trust in the reliability and stability of the US going completely downhill due to Trump coming back, with China looking like it’s developing in an even more hostile direction and with the renewed interest in Europe to be able to stand on its own feet and be more independent due to the precarious security architecture of Europe and the world (especially considering the importance of good cybersecurity, as we have seen with continued Russian cyber attacks), there’s certainly a very good chance for this sort of stuff to become big!
The moment M$ revealed Win11 I started paying WAYYYY more attention to the Linux ecosystem as a whole. It's the only salvation in this AI ridden space.
Then Windows Subsystem for Android was axed
AI is not a problem. It's just a tool.
With all things ruining society, it is corporate greed$$/1% shareholders that is the culprit to the problems.
AI integration and use is inevitable.
Instead change the economic system were billionaire oligarchs and their corporate monopolies own everything.
I swear bro, This will be the year for Linux
@@terminalvelocity4858 At this point, Microsoft needs to accept their defeat and discontinue the entire Windows family for good. Windows is no longer fit to compete with Linux or macOS in the Desktop PC market. Absolutely all Big Tech companies need to double down on full-fledged software compatibility with all existing Linux distros, and Microsoft and Adobe are no exceptions.
Linux people are real copium addicts, eh? xD
been hearing this for so long, i would switch right now to linux if it was actually big, i do so many things, that linux alone just is just hassle because of lack of support, i dont care if it beats windows or not i need more people to care about it before i can, otherwise i hate windows but i can put up and use it without issue, so hearing year of linux so many years with so little improvement is getting annoying and feels like nothing actually changed
@@MyouKyuubi Windows people are real hopium addicts, eh? xD
@@kompton5865 No they're straight up just ignorant, lol... No hopium, no copium, just ears plugged going "LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!". xD
IIRC, stat counter uses web browser user agents to get its OS market share info. So people who have Steam Decks that never use a browser may not be included in their charts
Maybe yes maybe no. The steam store is basically running in a chromium browser. If valve is using statcounter on their store pages then it might get reported.
Most Linux users use privacy based browsers or tracker and ad blockers so the actual percentage is probably bigger still.
@@askeladden450 Yeah this goes back to my main comment on the video. Linux is at 4.13 but ChromeOS is also at 1.89. For an application developer those are the same and so it is 6%. There is also the unknown category at 6.41%. You could argue that those could be windows and OSX systems but I would argue that those OSs don't give the user nearly as much control to modify things that would actually break the reporting statcounter does. I feel it would be much more likely that those systems are actually running one of the hundreds of Linux distros out there and have successfully obfuscated their systems. So to sum it up I think Linux's market share should be considered at least 6% but that it could be as high as 12%.
Been working on and using Linux for over 3 decades. It is great to see what is going on with the desktop side over the last several years. It really is amazing.
Dude you work ridiculously hard on your channel and it really shows. I've been subbed since the early days and I've always been impressed with the quality and frequency of your vids. Keep up the good work king.
Thank you very much ! I always feel like I don’t publish enough, so this is very nice to hear !
I switched to linux this year! The final straw was seeing ads in my windows 11 start menu. Other than CAD everything works well, and the only big issue I have is that error handling and recovery is still pretty bad
You have ads? How, why? Did i miss something?
there are also in win 10. it sucks
With decently priced license keys widely available, it seems that Microsoft is using Windows ad revenue to compensate for the profit that came from their own overpriced licenses.
That's nonsensical. I've not seen an ad on Windows 11, ever. But I have seen thousands on my Android (Linux) phone. So which one is worse? LOL I guess I should switch to an Apple phone, right? Cause, my Linux phone is bloated with ads and spyware.
@@SirChristoferusThere are no ads on my Windows 11 PC. Never seen any. Just scaremongering.
Before speaking about HDR in Wayland, a proper support for color management and qualification/calibration is much needed.
That’s happening at the same time, it’s the same protocol :)
@@TheLinuxEXP Fingers crossed ;)
how would be neat to have just a simple saturation slider on kde to improve my crappy laptop screen xd
Before we force "the year of wayland" can we at least push the devs to be a bit less stubborn and actually allow windowing and decorations to be handled directly by the protocol, it's a pain in the ass right now writing GUI software for wayland, you're basically forced to either write a bunch of code targeting for different compositors manually or pull in the entire gnome/gtk toolchain or the qt/kde toolchain as a dependancy to do things that took 6 lines of code and no deps on X11. It's absurd that the easiest/most efficient way to make a proper window on wayland is to do it in X11 and just let XWayland handle it for you.
Mouse and keyboard sharing software also still don't work correctly on ANY wayland compositor, there's still tons of lockups and crashes on intel and broadcom cards, and broken support for working on televisions
An easy VFIO program would be VERY appreciated
Very much this, getting a VM setup with proper GPU passthrough without jumping through what feels like a bunch of flaming hoops would be nice.
@@benjaminford8173 Did you try GPU-Passthru-Manager ? , it's a gui app that will do all the driver blacklisting and adding VFIO dummy driver to your desired GPU
@@benjaminford8173 in virt-manager all you have to do is click "add" and select pci device, and select every device in that video card's IOMMU group and it should just work, i've never had issues doing pass-through like that. My only real complaint about virt-manager is that for some reason you still have to manually add evdev mapping in the xml, there's no option for it in the gui....
YES YES YES YES YES YES AND YES PLEEASSSEE YESSSS
Remember, if a company doesn't support your favorite system, don't support them. Dont spend any money on games that dont work on Linux!
That statement makes no sense. I run Windows, so I wouldn't give a toss whether a game runs on Linux. Linux users would likely not buy a game that they can't run.
Will I be able to run GTA 6 on Linux? If not, don't talk to me about gaming on Linux.
I think it's important to note that market share is not the be all and end all of what should be considered successful.
Yep, absolutely. Even a constant 10% would be enough to get support / hardware from more third parties
@@TheLinuxEXPImagine DaVinci Resolve not being the only professional nonlinear video editor on Linux... That would be awesome, and hopefully would push DaVinci to actually take Linux seriously.
I'm pretty happy with DaVinci Resolve. What I need is some open source AI image generation tooling worked into Gimp, as well as WAY more stuff for Ardour
@@cameronbosch1213 DaVinci Resolve works better on windows btw.
7:00 I think there's a small editing mistake here, still watching the video but good info ^_^/
Yeah, I must have cut at the wrong spot, don’t know I missed thatb
@@TheLinuxEXP it at least made me laugh out loud
Gaming did not get worse... it may have slowed in improvements, or not met the goals people wanted, but it has not declined in any way. Things work better than ever.
The developers became lazier and unskilled, that’s basically it
@@AMabud-lv7hyOr maybe games are becoming more and more complex and developing time shorter? I think this is a far more realistic conclusion than yours.
@k1ry4n nice excuse, doesn’t explain Baldur’s Gate 3 and Marvel Rivals
@@AMabud-lv7hy An excuse or an observation of a person that actually knows how the business works? You sound like a kid talking about things he barely understands.
@ Threat interactive made multiple videos on how unoptimized modern games are, developers doing bare minimum and dump it all on gpu requirements. Go back to minecraft kiddo
3:22 Windows 11 is exactly why I switched to Linux after making excuses for the stuff I didn't like about Windows 10 and 8 for years. Windows 11 was so incredibly irritating every. single. day. It was the last straw that pushed me to explore my options on Linux. It hasn't been perfect, like I'm on Nvidia with KDE and can't use Wayland because of this really bad uneven framerate even on the desktop itself (it's extremely noticeable and distracting). And I had to get a new audio interface because my old one was completely unsupported. And I still have to keep a backup install of Windows 11 for edge cases (my music software and plugins don't play nice on Linux, and a lot of mods for games rely on stuff that is a nightmare to set up on Linux). It makes it hard for me to recommend this to most people, but for me, despite these workarounds, overall I'm much happier.
I think the fact that I'm willing to put up with all of that shows you just how much I've despised using Windows 11, and I went into it with a pretty positive mindset lmao
I feel your pain. I used Linux to earn money making music in 2007. After a while it gets easier.
7:03 - whoops, what happened to the sound here?
Nick spoke too much, he needed a second to breathe! 😂
My Dude! The Audio around 7:09 is borked! You might want to look into patching that
We are gaining traction
2:36 Fellow Fedora 41 Kde Plasma user from South India😎
I'm also using Fedora, I'm from Maharashtra, India 🇮🇳.
@RealRajatShahare Blud's United 😂🤩🙌🤝😌
Ubuntu dual boot user from MH, IN
Fedora 41 KDE Plasma user from Switzerland here.
6:45 I don't want a "government controlled" OS but I like the idea that European governments invest in open source. Considering how much they spent on licensing windows and MS office it should be even more. But I'm afraid this good work might come to an end after the next federal election in Germany at the end of February.
I don't think we've entered The Year of the Linux Desktop™ just yet but I think 2024/2025 is going to be the point that people will identify as the inflection point, where Linux finally gained traction and started on a steady and inevitable upwards trend.
I feel like were a long way off of Linux cornering that critically important 10% of regular desktop users having Linux as their daily driver (and not just niche deployments of Linux like the Steam Deck which throw off the demographics.)
Once we hit 10% of regular users on Linux as their daily, that's going to be something like 1 in 2 or 1 in 4 tech savvy types being on Linux in practice (since they tend to be the most inclined to change and you probably only get 1 tech savvy person out of a room of 10 or 20 people) and that's when grandma and grandpa will get transitioned over to Mint and where there will be so many Linux ambassadors online and irl that the more casual and less tech-minded PC users will start jumping ship because this will lower the barrier to entry by an immense amount since most people will have access to at least one personal connection to someone who can deal with troubleshooting and all of that stuff.
4% of the desktop market is f-ing HUGE! Remember, Mac has traditionally only had 16% (it's up recently because of the M-chips, we will see how long that lasts). So getting 25% of the Mac market, again I think that is huge.
Totally agree)
The speed at which I'd flash EuropeOS off my laptop would be unbelievable.
I wouldn't want that either. 😅
Still, we should all want delevopment efforts like that - it'll inevitably put more resources into various FOSS platforms and projects - even though private users most likely won't wish to run an EU backed distro we would still benefit.
@@ChelseaInSp4ceI think it is more for the administration and the government than for citizens. Like they currently use Windows and MS Office.
Better than FedOS by NSA
2:39 Proud to be an Indian Viewer. I am also start using Linux. Love from India
4% in desktop computing is very solid!
The Indian government made their own Linux Distro based on Ubuntu for confidential and mission-critical applications. Also, New Linux user from India Let's goooooooo 🔥
Linux marketshare
I want to address something that is often overlooked fact. While the gaming marketshare in Linux is relatively low, the user base is even more hungry for new games. Windows gaming market is a little bit saturated, while in Linux there is still potential. In example for multiplayer games, there is not too much to choose from in Linux. Plus the additional free marketing that games supporting Linux will get should not be underestimated too. So additionally supporting Linux can have a huge initial boost for the games reputation and marketing.
I switched to Linux this year after using only Windows for my entire life.
It's a little uncomfortable sometimes learning to change the way I use my computer but Windows has gone too far with the privacy violations.
For the love of all that is holy please make a universal driver for microphone audio interfaces
I switched to opensuse tumbleweed from windows last week after a power outage corrupted my windows install, I can't believe how simple everything was to set up. So far, I can play all the games and use all the programs I did on windows with minor adjustments and almost no digging around in the terminal. I wasn't sure what to expect since I heard nvidia cards are bad on linux, but I'm using wayland with 4 monitors that have different scaling with very few hiccups. The only thing I will need to tinker with to get working is sleep mode, which isn't a huge deal for me tbh
for tumbleweed what did you use for gaming?? Tried Lutris but it didnt work.
@giorgos-4515 I'll see if I can pull up the tutorial I used for Lutris tonight for ya
You use dualboot or Linux only?
@@ZoroBoiInd_laman I installed openSUSE on a second SSD, I haven't tried but I should still be able to boot into my broken windows installation from the GRUB bootloader. This weekend I need to sort everything out, but I plan on using openSUSE as my daily driver and have windows dualbootable for some fringe use cases, like my VR and my racing sim set ups
@@giorgos-4515 I wrote a really long reply but I guess youtube doesn't like me putting URLs in comments 🥲. I only ended up needing Lutris for 1 specific game (I downloaded lutris as well as most of my software through YasT and followed a tutorial for the 1 game I wanted to use it with, but I supplied my own .exe to use with lutris), the rest of my games just work right from steam, just go to "Settings -> Compatability -> Enable Steam Play for All Other Titles" to enable proton for non linux native games, and check protondb for game compatibility before you install
A distro stamped 'EU' or officially supported/used by governments and public institutions could use instead of a full Windows landscape WILL certainly help. Windows entered the housed because it was use in the office, and all went in the offices because it was used at home.Just use another distro if you don't like that.
I've been wanting to fully jump into Linux for years, but there's always that one game I'm obsessed with that I can't play there, plus I do streaming as well and obs is lacking in some areas on Linux, at least so I hear. For the time being, I'm still gonna cling to windows 10 for as long as I can. If there's a major shift with the anticheat issue that would be my signal to jump ship at last!
When people hesitate on Linux, I tell them try not to make it Windows. We are all creatures of habit, so to make Linux work, you have to wrap your head around doing things a little differently than we're used to and learn something new, just like we all did with Windows in the beginning. After a month or two of using Linux, everything makes sense and you see what a great OS it is. With that said, keep things SIMPLE, don't over-complicate. This is where so many go south and are put off. A lot of times with Linux, less is more. OBS works mostly flawless now, even on Wayland. As far as games, 99% of them run just fine (and a lot of times better) on Linux. This is especially true if you are using Steam. For all other cases, the use of WineGE works amazingly well. Linux support has improved exponentially over the last 5 years. I've been using it now for 16 and will never turn back.
@@terminalvelocity4858 When it comes to OBS its mostly a Wayland thing yeah so I expect any remaining features will be updated thanks to Wayland's increased prevalence. As for games I don't expect everything, hell, not all my games even run on Windows without significant fixing! But for the games I really really enjoy, anti cheat is a huge hurdle. I have a little notepad I use to keep track of the remaining games on my must play list that don't run and its pretty small (and even decreased since I wrote it). When I do move over it'll suck to lose them but I'll still have most of my games, and I made an effort outside of gaming to use open source (eg Libre office, Gimp) or otherwise Linux friendly programs like Da Vinci Resolve (although last time I tried to get Da Vinci working on Linux it was a bit of a nightmare tbh.)
X11 is now more buggier than Wayland, while using NVIDIA drivers.
That's extremely subjective, I have yet to see Wayland even load at all on my RTX 4090 without using Fedora. I hate Fedora and would rather just deal with the quirks in Xorg. Every time a new Nvidia driver comes out I install it, try Wayland, and every time I get a blank black screen with a blinking white cursor.
Having daily-driven Linux for over 20 years, I've gotta say your videos are my favorite Linux news delivery format I've found! Your channel keeps getting better and better and keeps me excited about the future of Linux!
Nick, the Linux Experiment videos are like a printed newsletter with updates on Linux, always appreciate your information.
I think the largest contributor to the move to Linux is the Microsoft software that many people are moving away from. I'm making the move to Linux right now and have downloaded Linux Mint. I'm trying to learn it right now. I'm on this W10 computer now, but at the end of service, I'll also upgrade this computer to some distro of Linux.
fun trivia: Half of the world lives in india and china :D
I'm a chronic distrohopper, but I always seem to come back to Fedora. I tried to use Windows again on my main PC over the holidays, but it was honestly a frustrating experience. It really bothers me how little control I have over my system, it does things without asking or it just doesn't let me change some stuff.
Linux is not perfect, far from it. I still have an issue of my bluetooth adapter not being picked up about half the time the PC boots up or wakes from sleep, but it's a lot better than what else is out there.
Last year 2 of my friends started using linux in their gaming setup. For me, for my teen son, windows was never even an option. I've played Hell let loose lately. Son's putting his hours in the RDR2.
Last year switched to tuxedo os from win11. So far fo good
Windows as a whole is rapidly declining in popularity nowadays, and Linux’s popularity is steadily but surely increasing. At this rate, Microsoft’s days of dominating the PC market through their Windows family of operating systems will eventually be over. Windows is already too far gone for redemption, especially when there are too many bugs to be fixed. It’s completely beyond repair. At this point, Microsoft has only two choices: throw in the towel on Windows and start doubling down on application support for Linux, or risk shutting down forever. Windows as a whole simply cannot continue to compete with Linux anymore, especially not with the advent of Valve’s Steam Deck and their Linux-based SteamOS, the latter which will be made available to all PC users later this year.
I agree with your assessment of windows, I disagree with your assessment of people. As long as PC's come with windows preinstalled it will keep market share dominance. People in general are stubbornly lazy and even if linux were to pay people to install many just would not do it.
I guess you’re right. Those who strongly prefer Windows, even with all those excessive bugs, don’t have the energy, time, or any experience to switch to Linux, or they flat-out don’t want to take any mandatory Linux classes or watch any video tutorials on how to install and use Linux like a pro. It’s going to take a whole lot more than those excessive BSOD’s and irreparable hardware failures to permanently drive people away from Windows in favor of Linux. Still, with support for Windows 10 being discontinued later this year, the only viable way to keep those officially outdated PC’s out of the landfill is to replace Windows 10 with a beginner-friendly Linux distro like Linux Mint. Then again, even if one was experienced enough to do just that, internal hardware failure is still inevitable, and that old PC will succumb to that failure and die. And on top of that, there will soon be no more replacement parts left for those old PC’s, not even in the used market on eBay. Therefore, those old PC’s will eventually and inevitably end up in the landfill, no matter what OS is being used. It’s also inevitable that Linux will never be able to compete with Windows at all. It’s just plain hopeless.
The other factor playing a huge role, though, is the degree to which Windows is deeply embedded in the business sector. I doubt MS is even worried about the market for home users. Their big failure in domestic computing was years ago when they badly fumbled becoming a player in the smartphone market. Most people just have phones these days - laptop and desktop PCs are only of real importance to MS as office machines.
Microsoft should release Windows 7 as open source.
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1%? arent you hovering over the number 17%? i'm confused
Yep, mistake on my part. I had a migraine all day and didn’t do a good job here :/
Thanks for keeping us updated despite you having some issues with your health. We, the subscribers pray for your wellness.
May it also be the year of this channel; wishing much success, bro. 👍
You heard it here first, folks. 2025 will be the Year of Linux on the Desktop.
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Honestly I think all the major linux projects aiming at building a larger desktop userbase need to start donating to OnlyOffice. If that suite can reach feature parity with MSOffice it would be game changing.
I agree. I hate that Libre office is pushed so much. it sucks in comparison
I think desktop linux is "ready" now but it has only been so for a short time. I think this happened after the steam deck launched and proton became usable. People wont actually switch to linux if they're constantly having to boot back into windows for stuff because they'll just get complacent and stay in windows. 2024 was the first year I was able to use linux and basically never have to reboot into windows.
As for distro packages not getting better, I think that what we're seeing with atomic systems is the direction we might see being gone there, at least for issues with in-place updating and the like.
Some sound issues around the 7:00 mark, but we all know how hard you work on this. You are basically my mainstream Linux update channel, I trust what you provide.
I would also like a link to your Warhammer channel. Je parle francais, alors ce n'est pas une probleme pour moi!
what really helped me was the ai advancements. having someone help me write terminal commands has really helped me with the learning curve. Also, warp terminal with built in AI has been a game changer. I just type in plain language what I want to do, and it does it.
We need an independent wayland panel with taskbar, wayland dock, and a conky like application for wayland floating window managers. It would be great with something like labwc.
Between 7:00~7:15 I heard some glitches in the audio... What happened there...??
2025 will be the year of Linux, Linux gaming, and the gym.
If you don't work out and use Linux, then go back to Windows!
sudo pacman -S satire-package
4:10 Whhhaaatt? You are wrong!! that is not, not tested enough... Windwos till the start of win10 is using the users as testing material...
Windows 11 is helping Linux grow. Thanks Microsoft!
Another thing to note about the Linux desktop market share is that while it might not be big, most of its users have well paying jobs in the field of tech (mainly developers), so they have the disposable income to spend money on software / games.
But there are a lot of cheap pirates over here too, I have been one of them and I'm sure a lot of aspiring tech savvy users are on the same boat I once was
Oh jeez, the Wayland section had a LOT of it missing. I couldn't get what was being said or shown in that part.
Damn don’t know what happens here during editing. Must have deleted the wrong part of the video somehow, but how did I not notice this…
@@TheLinuxEXPMaybe you should re-upload the video or upload a part 2...
Part 2 if the info is enough for it to be worth it, or include more things in other areas that were also missed in this one, like the KDE funding for example, the umu stuff and such
This is such a pleasant topic to listen to, even for Nick's standarts. Thank you!
For Linux to get more market share games wise we need a steam deck 2.
The Lenovo Legion Go S might be that device, unfortunately it doesn't launch until May...
@@cameronbosch1213 doubtfull. The reason you'd want the Deck 2 is because it has Valve and Steam behind it. You need the handheld to be cheap and good. The deck is sold at a loss or close to one. Same for the Switch. All other handhelds are sold at for a profit. Not many people willing to pay $1000 USD before tax for a handheld.
Valve, Sony and Nintendo can recoup costs from the sales they make on their stores. Asus, Lenovo, MSI can not. The Lenovo Legios Go S will not even make a dent unfortunately. Even if it does run Steam OS, it won't help much if any.
Windows in its current state is too far gone for redemption. Its popularity is dwindling over time, and Linux is slowly but surely catching up. It seems like those excessive bugs that are affecting Windows 11 24H2 are finally driving users to switch from Windows to Linux. In the event that Microsoft finally throws in the towel on Windows for good and concedes its loss to Linux, Valve should make a Desktop Edition of SteamOS for all subsequent desktops and laptops on the market. In SteamOS Desktop Edition, the OS would boot to the KDE desktop by default instead of Gaming Mode. However, for those who have a gamepad, users could switch to Gaming Mode at any time.
@@ZacharyNoah Windows 10 had multiple updates that ERASED people's files. People did not move then and they will not move now. Linux is not growing because windows sucks.
I still don’t see why people would rather put up with those endless BSOD’s in Windows than watch any tutorials on how to install and use Linux like a pro. It’s like they’re too afraid of trying new and different things.
2:35 kinda makes sense 😅
Even without all the declarative stuff... nix is awesome as a package manager.
You can run things only once and it wont dirty the system, use things with conflicting dependencies, and then install stuff like other managers
I also believe its possible to make games work with proton and tricks... like, you run one file and it would "just work"™
October 2025 will be the biggest part of the year for Linux.
2010 was my year for LInux. Haven't used Windows, since, and was on Windows 7 when I quit, with Windows 10 trying to force itself on users!
I just can't imagine any packaging standard to work effectively in a decentralized format, freedom is Linux's biggest pro and con at the same time.
Unknown is likely MOSTLY also going to be Linux, with a pinch of FreeBSD and an even tinier pinch of Haiku + whatever else. There is nothing other than Linux that would show up as unknown that is _also_ that popular. That means Linux is most likely by far the 2nd biggest operating system in India, which is pretty cool. Africa also has initiatives for support of Linux, and Africa is the continent of the future, which you know... Makes you think, don't it?
As for me: This was my year of Linux. Around the time Linux went up in September I decided to try out Linux for the first time in my life. I am now only daily driving Linux. I went from someone who never installed an OS on my own, to distrohopping a ton until I finally settled on the classic: Arch on the Desktop/Debian on the Laptop combo. The best rolling and stable distros for my usage cases. Here's to Linux and the future!
Fact is, Linux fans can jump through hoops of mental gymnastics forever, but Windows will still win as a desktop OS. Why? Because its better, it's free upgrades for most users, and people will pay if they have to, because Linux just doesn't cut it.
5:45 Hey people, is FreeBSD any usable ? And what particularities does it have compared to all of Linuxes and other Unix OSes ?
Linux is wayyy better than windows, literally wayy bettterrrrrrr
That's easy to say and is almost completely true. The world is moving towards Unix, one way or another. (Linux, macOS, and even Haiku, the open source BeOS reimplementation, are all Unix-like, and Windows has WSL2.)
It isn't. It's just different.
Been a Linux user for about 9 months now and although I miss some parts of Windows, there is no way I'm going back.
2025 will be great! And I hope Nick will continue to keep us up 2 date!
Wow.. I didn't know Germany has MILLIONS of foundings, impressive.
07:01 :D
14:48 I may be wrong but I only use flatpak on command line and as user and it never asks for permission escalation in my experience. I know its not perfect for multi-user systems but it works well for me as a single user and I don't need root access.
I think that what is driving the increase in the Linux desktop is Microsoft trying to force Windows 11 down peoples collective throats alongside its TPM requirements which means it can't officially be supported on a lot of machines despite them being more than powerful enough to be useful. After all, if you are facing having to replace all your systems with more modern versions which could cost you $1000's per unit you'd might as well try out the free alternative operating system.
The year of the linuc desktop has always been next year for decades, but this time, it might really be next year
I used to daily drive Linux back in the late 90's and early 2000's but switched to Windows due to the poor software support at the time. I've used Windows exclusively for about 15 years now, but I did so begrudgingly.
Microsoft's invasive and anti consumer practices finally crossed a line for me and I've been looking for an excuse to switch, the only thing holding me back was concerns over game support. I switched to Fedora a week or so ago, and so far the experience has been amazing.
Every game has worked out the box for me, Proton is amazing! Yes I've broken my OS about three times already, but that was all from my own actions, and to be honest I've really been enjoying piecing it back together. I've probably learned more about how my system works in a week on Linux than I did with years of Windows use.
Yes some things are cumbersome to figure out, but I've even managed to get cracked windows software working through Wine with minimal amounts of tweaking. I'm never going back.
17:21 Linux tech tips
07:02 that sound......
What was this edited on and missed? x'D
THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP IS UPON US
2027 could be the year of the Linux desktop, 2025 I think will pave the way to getting there, we are already so close, the desktop is imo ready as it is but with a bit more polish it will be amazing!
Okay, nice to know!
But please tell us what exactly the year of the Linux Desktop is. Highest Marketshare? Second highest Market share? More than 10%?
Or Just good enough for everyone to use?
@ I’m not entirely sure what the official definition is but my intepretation is when it’s both fully consumer ready and reaches 10% marketshare
@PenguinByte okay, then 2027 is somewhat realistic. Fully customer ready is given since 2004 for me, so 10% is the real measure? ;-)
@ yeah lol it’s been consumer ready for a while now, but it’s majorly improved these past years when it comes to user friendliness, and I think it can improve even more, but yeah the main measure atleast imo is reaching 10% lol
@PenguinByte yes, i belive User friendliness Starts with the newer immutable systems. They avoid all those nasty Update issues and package conflicts due to Classic package Management. Something Like bluefin/bazzite is customer ready for average users, or very Close to that. So we agree 2027 reaching 10% and having solved the remaining Integration issues of flatpaks would be feasiable?
I am worried! Ubuntu Budgie uses Plank dock. I have heard that Plank doesn't work in Wayland.
Please, will there be another dock made available to replace Plank once Budgie DE 11 is released? Thank you very much in advance.
On 2025 I switched do Deepin OS. Never been happier..
I technically switched to linux 6 years ago, but I run multiple computers and some still have windows, so it’s hard to say which is my daily driver.
I got a 7800x3d and 7900 xtx and i cant install lastest windows 11 ISO with the clean install, i have to first install windows 10 and run a product server command line install, without it i cant install it, Microsoft forgot to add drivers for the 7000 cpu/chipset says it needs drivers, worked in the last iso.
On Linux Wine dont have Wayland support yet, yes there is if you compile it with '--with-wayland' argument but none of the build binaries have it, GE and the others dont have it yet.
I tried multiple times in the past to completely switch to linux, and last year i was finally able to do it. Work and Gaming were holding me up, but now everything just works, and better. 100% Windows and MacOS free baby
7:00 what in the world happened with the audio there?
The interest in Linux these days remind me of the late 90's & early 2000's for windows. There was user dedication & motivation. Now W/11 is mundane.
Maybe, but Windows 11 blows Linux as a desktop OS into the weeds in terms if usability.
I have started wondering about GhostBSD, how is that for a user friendly BSD?
Flatpak is by far the best format and the closest to being the 'default' IMO. If Cononical had joined with Flatpak instead of focusing on Snaps for dubious reasons, Flatpak would probably already be the default.
Unfortunately, I can't do a complete switch to Linux because I have specific software that only runs on windows. I tried a VM but that just didn't work well enough and made the software too slow. Wine didn't work either. So stuck on windows. ☹
Imo the issue with flatpak is that it increases the apps size a lot. I know that it is safer than shared dependencies, but when I see my pc which only contains nix packages and don't have remaining soace on its drive, I think I would never switch to flatpak.
I think system packages are enough stable, even on arch and nixos "unstable". I've never had any problems on arch, and NixOS unstable when the update fail I just have to wait a few days until it's fixed, and my pc is still working as before during this time. I know that it's still not as good as direct releases from the package author, but at least the packages will work fine together.
There is no good way in reality: either all packages embed all their dependencies, which gives us bloated app size, either packages share their dependencies, which gives us instability. I don't see any alternative, so I'm not surprised that there aren't many improvements on app packaging, and I doubt there'll be a way to improve that
i heard that a german state (schweisig i think or smth) voted a law to use only linux os in thier governement apparently 20000 computers
A lot of interesting stuff ❤ For me, the Wayland progress could be deceiving, as the long awaited Ubuntu session has turned out to be very slow in all but simplest use cases. A lot of extra effort will be needed on Nvidia part, I guess. But hey, Canonical ended up making Snaps reasonable good so I'm hopeful.
I subscribe for these Linux scene update videos. Still waiting for Wayland HDR.
Can obs-studio run on Wayland ?
only thing currently stopping me from using it is my capture card not working on linux.
Soon we're going to have Linux tutorials made by the greatest Indian TH-camrs the world has ever seen.