Hey guys. I am a feild tech for Briggs Equipment. Hyster dealer. Great video. I still work on and rebuild these motors. 163 an 172. Redseal flatheads back in the day. Good engine. Y'all besafe and have a great day👍👍👊
I have a Clark 8k with the same engine but propane conversion. Everyone said the Continental is a great engine and it is....I've just been re-build everything else though. LOL! Glad to have you as a resource now.
Awesome, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Your diagnostics are on point. Edit, I would have flushed the sediment out of the tank just for peace of mind and to save the filters
I did take a look at the drain plug but it was frozen solid and I have had bad luck in the past removing rusted ones. I must admit I took the easy way on that by just adding a new filter and making sure the pickup tube wasn't clogged. Good eye
I used to drive the Perkins engined version of that truck it was indestructible, only failure to proceed I remember was greasing it one day and had mast fully up and a hose burst it came down so hard it broke the concrete floor, always propped it after that.
What a great score! And, a fabulous tool to have around. I see that someone put a hitch ball on one fork, which should suggest an easy way to spot various trailers. You can buy repair kits for those hydraulic cylinders fairly easily. I never rebuilt one myself, but have watched it being done. There are probably several videos on YT to show the fine points. Nice job! Wish I had one like that years ago, all I had was a little three wheeler with a Crosley engine, but it served my purposes at the time, but that was in the 1970s.
I've used 2 Hyster forklifts, both had forward and reverse on the accelerator pedal; pressing the right side put the transmission in forward gear, pressing the left side put it into reverse gear. I could stall the engine if I wasn't careful! The flat-head engine design must have been very durable, I see it a lot.
Six cylinder flat head., these forklifts are incredibly well built, twenty millimeter thick rolled steel wheel guards. Frame sides are ten millimeters thick alone. Super strong. We used to build these from scratch.
Danville, IL, right? I'm so used to building restomods where weight savings are important, it's so strange to see fenders made of almost inch thick steel. Strange and awesome
@@AustinCoulson No we built them under licence in New Zealand with a lot if caterpillar equipment. We had a hyster assemble line next to a caterpillar assembly line. yes the fenders are profile cut then rolled. Your lift is the Hyster H150 , the single drive wheel with narrow fenders is the H80. Check out how robust the steering Axel assembly is under the counterweight. Hope you get plenty of use from this lift , very strong. 😀
@@axeman6560 I was actually looking at the steering the other day because my buddy's 4k forklift broke his steering arm and I wanted to inspect mine and it looks practically indestructible. I shipped a turbine engine to NZ a few years back for a guy who used it as a starter for an even bigger turbine engine.
I worked on Hysters for 24 years You will never wear it out, Best machine on the market. A bit of advice the ONLY suspect part is the head gasket make sure its always full of coolant and the fan belt is tight and radiator is clean. The head can warp if they are left to constantly overheat and the centre bolt on the head is very close to the bores and can corrode and break in. Its a Continenal side valve engine.
Thanks for the heads up. I use this Hyster on average 2X a week and usually for less than 10 min or so at a time, and now that I have a gauge I can keep an eye on the temp. Always good to know where the weak points are to keep an eye on em.
The firing order is cast on the head or intake manifold on most engines, a good piece of information to pass along to the younger mechanics watching your channel
Wqw,, we had a 5 ton, 5000 kg one like this at work in the mid 80's ,, the Maintenance man replaced the old side-valve motor with a more modern OHV Holden motor ,,, took the duel wheels of and replaced them with single wheels ,, it still was going well when left 15 years later ,,
Right! He said the "mechanic" tried the plug wires in two different spots and just stopped showing up. the Owner said he never tried any other order because his battery was almost dead and he was sick of dealing with the mechanic
I would think that is a three speed if you lift the hi-lo lever and pull it toward you that’ll give you first gear, it’s so low it’ll never have been used so probably be stiff
You are correct! That's a 3spd,no one really likes putting it in 3rd because it goes sort of fast and is scary to operate. The range shifter gets stiff because it's not used much!
The clutch is only there so you can give throttle for you hydraulics to operate faster without moving. You don't need to use it when moving or changing from front to backward.
@@joeharmer574 I think you will find that its an oil clutch you cant change direction without stopping. Hyster made these with an oil clutch and a torque convertor with power shift usually with the mototrol pedal but sone did have hand control levers. I worked at Hyster for 24 years
@@derekevans8266 After watching it again. it's a clutch. Doesnt mean it's the oil clutch version. I own 2 oil clutch units. Neither are monotrol and have a 13K one that's manual that is not oil clutch...similar to this one.
The fuel filter in the tank attaches to the round metal thing on the end of the fuel line. I've used them, and they're fine, but they're not supposed to go in the tank.
There is water in the hydraulics, the vent on the hydraulic reservoir is clogged. The vent tube on the mast cyl may be clogged, and the mast cyl probably needs repacked, both the piston seals and the top seal
I had an '84 Camaro that I did a tune-up on and after changing all the plugs, cap, rotor, wires, etc, it was running like crap. Went to pick my girlfriend up from work and one of her coworkers came out asking why it was running so rough. I told him everything I did and he said "I can fix it in five seconds". I was in disbelief, but I opened the hood and he looked around for a moment before grabbing hold of the cap and twisting it. You couldn't even see it turn, but sure enough when I started it, the car was running fine. He said that particular cap can look like it's seated correctly, but you have to wiggle it around and you'll feel it "click" into place when the springs on the clips engage properly.
Cause and effect, what was the last thing done when it stopped working. Middle of the night call: 'We changed the fuel filter and now it doesn't run." They had reversed the inlet and return lines. Retrace the steps. Made a few of those errors myself, knew who to blame.
@@andyh7537 this is the second forklift revival video ive seen lately where there just happens to be new plugs and wires that are hooked up wrong ...I'm not buying it plus he never showed any of the work he was doing I'm calling fake video
Because of how slow they grow and how long it takes to grow their first arm, that Saguaro probably started growing right there around the time of the US Civil War. There is one across the street that could be almost 300 years old
@@AustinCoulson I hear occasionally they find shot from early muskets buried in the cactus, witness to the fact that they saw conflict in the region. Decent FLT you've bought, should last for years.
@@peebee143 I have also heard of that, but never seen it in person. I did recently see a picture of a tree that was cut down exactly through the middle of a musket round. Very cool to see
really common issue with the hydraulic cylinder drifting, might require replacing the section in the valve body for the lift cylinder as those cylinders dont have holding valves and rely completely on the valve body to keep and maintain pressure in the cylinder.
Thanks for the info! I am by no means a hydraulic specialist so I will take a look at the manual and see how hard it looks to replace/repair that. Right now, the drift is so slow that it really hasn't affected its usefulness yet, and i've been too busy using this thing to have any downtime to work on it.
@@AustinCoulson honestly i would not even touch the valve body unless it is leaking alot, those can be a nightmare to seal correctly once taken apart. Plus its pretty normal to have some drift on a forklift as they are a material handler, and not a holder. if they were to be expected to hold things for extended periods of time the cylinders would have holding valves.
I had a good look back through the comments and only one person spotted that the radiator needs blowing out. It is jammed up pretty solid with rubbish.
Great job. I'm not trying to be negative when I say the the continental engine is very durable but never produce a lot of torque or HP. I've seen countless ones that have cracked the block on the deck (if I remember right, it happens between #1 and #2 cyls) In the forklift industry we joke that you get 1 HP per 100 pounds of engine. Your lift cylinder leak....The cylinder is what's called a non displacement cylinder so the seal on the bottom of the rod (on the piston) is bad. The hose that run down the side of the cylinder is so the fluid that gets by that seal has somewhere to go (back to tank) Obviously seals involved in the gland nut but that's just so it's directed out the hose. Just a little FYI
Austin Coulson....a customer of mine has a 13K forklift very similar to yours but it has a straight 6 GM motor. Again...nice job buying and getting it going! If they could all be that easy!
You either have a blockage in the filter, or there is air getting in from the suction line causing aeration of the fluid, if there is wear in the hydraulic pump it will also cause those symptoms
Looks like an h80c model .... NICE ! Engine is an F242 ? Continental extra NICE . Radiator needs blowing out . Take care , America hasn't made anything that good in a long time .
I love 💘 my H80! It'll pick up the ass end of a Michigan special semi-truck without a problem and more it around. It'll pick up only one wheel on the front but we're talking about a vehicle that weighs 22k Ibs !!!
Dear austin Nice vids man! Quick question, can you hook me up with some part numbers? need part nr of head gasket set, and my distributor is cracked and has play on it, i want to replace it with a pertronix D61-06a but i'm not sure if that is the correct replacement....
@@AustinCoulson Maybe you could take this manual to a photocopy centre and they could create a copy and I could e-transfer you something for it. Maybe.
@@virtuousman794 I used a bristle brush and then soaked them in oil. I was taught on motorcycle chains to not degrease, steam clean, or pressure wash, but I'd be interested on your take on that
@@AustinCoulson we use tooth brush and gasoline to clean those chains and sprays crc or wd 40 brand premium white special lithium grease the stuff is amazing they won't run out or accumulate dust or grime easily by the way did u take care of those grease nipples.
Not a clutch. It works an inching valve in the trans. When you push this pedal it sure hold the brake and kicks the trans out of gear you can riv the engine to pick up a heavy load.
@@AustinCoulson he probably mistook number 6 cylinder for number 1. Since number 6 is in the front of the truck. P.S. I just drop plastic coffee straw into the spark plug hole, you can fish it around into the cylinder and feel the piston climb and fall.
@@glennchartrand5411 you are probably right on him mistaking the front and rear of the engine as front and rear of the forklift and doing the wiring backwards. The problem with using a straw is on the flatheads the spark plug isn't over the Piston, it's off on the side and all you can see are the valves.
I personally wouldn't want to run a forklift that doesn't have a clutch. It makes it possible to rev up the engine to speed up the hydraulics while on the move, which is handy while unloading trucks from the ground
I've driven Clarks, Toyotas, Cyclones, Yales, some weird Indian import, and Hysters. I'm a Hyster guy, they really are built like tanks and run solid. The newer Toyotas are trash. Ours are constantly breaking or wearing our while the old 80's hysters keep running like tops. My fav of the whole shop is the 12,000 lb Hyster we use as a backup for moving steel. She'll lift 12k and controls great. If the load's too heavy, she let's you know by not lifting it. The hydraulics won't budge. Our big 12,000 lb Toyota on the other hand will lift 10k and starts to get squirrely, hard to steer, bounces about. She'll lift more than she can carry but won't really let you know till it's too late and start to tip. The Toyota's 6 inches wider on either side and a foot longer than the Hyster and it makes it incredibly hard to see anything nearby.
Dang, I've had good luck with Toyotas, but they were all newer and I only used them sparingly when I rented them. I'm happy with this this ole pig so far, and I love flatheads. Very solid motor design, just low HP, but they make up for it with reliability
Had a look at the video and you have a standard two stage upright and I am 99% sure that the hose from the top of the cylinder is just a vent hose and should never be under any amount of pressure. The oil leaking from the very top of the cylinder is leaking passed the wiper seal as it is venting back to the hydraulic tank. In theory there should never be any oil up there. The cause of your forks dropping is the oil is leaking passed the main ram seal getting to the head of the cylinder and venting back to the tank. So remove this vent pipe and see how much oil is getting passed the seal. Be careful you might get wet. The truck is a H80C
Where did you get that hat from. I have one just like it but I couldn’t see if yours says powered by toro on the back. Mine is neon green. From Russo logo looks identical.
The whole rear of this thing is solid cast iron. I was told the ballast section was almost 7k lbs alone, but all I can prove is it's more than I can lift!
Forklifts usually weigh 60% more than they can lift , most 5000lb trucks (the most common size) weigh about 8,000lbs this one is actually lighter than usual because the wheel base is so long. Lowry used to buy two of these trucks , cut one in half just behind the drive wheels and the other one was cut behind the drivers seat , then they'd weld the two long pieces back together making a forklift that could lift 10,000-15,000 lbs (depending on which counter weight it had). They also replaced the continental with a chevy vortec V-6. They sold like hot cakes and Hyster threw a fit when they realized their old rebuilt trucks had a better reputation than their brand new ones. Eventually the "supply" of old frames and counter weights was used up.
Great question, the last digit of the serial number is K which is either a 1966 or 1989, I have been told it's probably a 89, but I have also been told they stopped using the Continental flat head in the early 70's
It's a F series Continental . One of the best industrial gas engines ever built . You'd have to take one apart to see why . Hint no pickup tube for oil . It can't ever lose prime . Many other important features . Also many users of flatheads didn't want to use OHV for a long time . Reason , valves in the block usually runs cooler . Forklift manufactures only used engines that were built for reliability and easy starting etc .
@@oddwad6290 I can't believe how much I am learning from the comments on these videos. There is a section in the manual on this engine and I want to really dive into it. Any idea when they stopped making these motors?
@@AustinCoulson my H80 is a 1969 Basically only thing I've had to replace where hoses. I changed the hydraulic fluid due to water contamination also wheel cylinders and master cylinder for the same reason. I've had mine for over 15yrs.
@@AustinCoulson I didn't think they made any flathead engines at all since the early 1950s. that's why I'm so surprised. I'd say definitely gotta be '66. it looks too old to be from '89
For sure. I just noticed a tiny leak at the top, so I will be cleaning it and brazing it soon. Got some recommendations to flush it, even though it looks clean inside as well.
Wondering if you're from anywhere along a line from roughly central Ohio through Denver, Colorado, Austin........ if so, we're probably related, and there's an interesting story.
That's where I am from, ancestors were original homesteaders about an hour and a half East of Denver, shoot me an email, would love to hear the story. Should be able to message me directly from my channel page but if not let me know i'll get you a good email address
@@AustinCoulson Can't message through channel other than this. If we're kin, your Coulson ancestor arrived there between 1916 and 1925, or so..... perhaps a bit later. I'm what's left of the Iowa branch.
@@maniyan_wanagi shoot me an email at acthecarguy@gmail.com with whatever information you have on names. My grandfather was born in 1925 and he is still alive and with it and very much involved in our ancestry so he will almost certainly know if there is a connection. Had an ancestor fight with the 1/22 Iowa Infantry in the Civil War so I know I have roots there
Austin Coulson 19 years working on hyster when they used to be a good truck (not anymore) the heads fail at the side of the combustion chambers on the continental engines quite regularly. Another big problems with trucks that aren’t used that much is the oil emulsifying I’ve serviced them and the oil is white lol and I’m talking quiet a few of them doing it. On the whole though a good engine that can take a large amount of pain (certainly a better engine than the v6 vortex that followed it) it as others have said make sure the thermostat is good I’ve come across a few where people have run them with the stats out because of cooling faults this is guaranteed to destroy the engine long term. The manual transmission is also fairly bomb proof is your 3 or 2 speed?. The issue with your lift cylinder lifting could be a failed check valve in the bottom of the cylinder it’s there to allow any oil that gets past the piston to get back to the bottom, these are prone to failing on the later hysters. How fast is it dropping?? The spec is 2 inches in 10 minutes under load anything more than this is a problem. To test this install a gate valve onto the hose into the cylinder lift a load and close the valve if it doesn’t drift with the valve closed the problem isn’t in the cylinder On the whole the H80C is a great truck and last forever the only stronger hyster is prob either the S150A or the H60J
@@philholt577 mine is the 3 speed. Someone else had mentioned installing a valve there, but I was having trouble sourcing a valve rated for that pressure. Any suggestions on where to find one?
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Hey what is that white box near the carb there? I have one one mine, its broken but i dont know what it does or what it is lmao.
i guess its connected to the voltage regulator?
have the same forklift as this its a 3 speed trans that shifter pulls up and down for 1st and in and up for 2nd and down and down for 3rd
As a fabricator in a welding shop I used the identical machine for years, it was indestructible what a workhorse it was.
Mustie will approve of this video...good job mate..
Funny, my first thought was mustie would fix it.
Hey guys. I am a feild tech for Briggs Equipment. Hyster dealer. Great video. I still work on and rebuild these motors. 163 an 172. Redseal flatheads back in the day. Good engine. Y'all besafe and have a great day👍👍👊
You know a good way to never forget the firing order of a straight 6? 15's too young, 36 is too old, 24's just right.
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That works great unless your name is R Kelly.
@@fakiirification or Joe biden
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Iove forklifts. They have more uses than you can imagine.
A rather large friend of mine uses one for a wheel chair when he has gout
I have a Clark 8k with the same engine but propane conversion. Everyone said the Continental is a great engine and it is....I've just been re-build everything else though. LOL! Glad to have you as a resource now.
It's crazy a machine this old under this type of pressure and abuse has lasted this long. True workhorses
some people just shouldn't be allowed to work on equipment, glad it was an easy fix
Amen.
The left pedal is called a "feathering control", a clutch of sorts used mostly to uncouple the transmission so you can gas it to raise the mast faster
Awesome, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Your diagnostics are on point.
Edit, I would have flushed the sediment out of the tank just for peace of mind and to save the filters
I did take a look at the drain plug but it was frozen solid and I have had bad luck in the past removing rusted ones. I must admit I took the easy way on that by just adding a new filter and making sure the pickup tube wasn't clogged. Good eye
I used to drive the Perkins engined version of that truck it was indestructible, only failure to proceed I remember was greasing it one day and had mast fully up and a hose burst it came down so hard it broke the concrete floor, always propped it after that.
What a great score! And, a fabulous tool to have around. I see that someone put a hitch ball on one fork, which should suggest an easy way to spot various trailers. You can buy repair kits for those hydraulic cylinders fairly easily. I never rebuilt one myself, but have watched it being done. There are probably several videos on YT to show the fine points. Nice job! Wish I had one like that years ago, all I had was a little three wheeler with a Crosley engine, but it served my purposes at the time, but that was in the 1970s.
Well done video! Great bargain on the FL too.
You scored on this forklift. Purrs like a kitten. Great job!
Awesome find....and something so simple to fix cool!
I call those cool guy grabbing tool, "pinchers of pal" and have been doing that for a long, long time. Good vid.
Nice score. Just picked up an old Hyster forklift myself. My mast is leaking bad when it goes to the second stage. Needs rebuilding bad.
Good work on your forklift. The Hyster wet clutch is supposed to be the cat's meow for fine positioning.
I was reading in the manual about the wet clutch. I've only ever seen it on motorcycles before, but from what I hear they last a really long time
I've used 2 Hyster forklifts, both had forward and reverse on the accelerator pedal; pressing the right side put the transmission in forward gear, pressing the left side put it into reverse gear. I could stall the engine if I wasn't careful! The flat-head engine design must have been very durable, I see it a lot.
It's called monotrol
Im 16 and i work with that type of pedal on a hyster every saturday. They are very nice.
Nice looking forklift man! Cool video!
Thanks! I love this thing!
Interesting video. I enjoyed the show thanks.
Six cylinder flat head., these forklifts are incredibly well built, twenty millimeter thick rolled steel wheel guards. Frame sides are ten millimeters thick alone. Super strong.
We used to build these from scratch.
Danville, IL, right? I'm so used to building restomods where weight savings are important, it's so strange to see fenders made of almost inch thick steel. Strange and awesome
@@AustinCoulson No we built them under licence in New Zealand with a lot if caterpillar equipment. We had a hyster assemble line next to a caterpillar assembly line.
yes the fenders are profile cut then rolled. Your lift is the Hyster H150 , the single drive wheel with narrow fenders is the H80.
Check out how robust the steering Axel assembly is under the counterweight.
Hope you get plenty of use from this lift , very strong. 😀
@@axeman6560 I was actually looking at the steering the other day because my buddy's 4k forklift broke his steering arm and I wanted to inspect mine and it looks practically indestructible. I shipped a turbine engine to NZ a few years back for a guy who used it as a starter for an even bigger turbine engine.
Mine has a Perkins diesel in it, it's a really strong machine, very simple to fix
@@elljay4587 Perkins nice
I worked on Hysters for 24 years You will never wear it out, Best machine on the market. A bit of advice the ONLY suspect part is the head gasket make sure its always full of coolant and the fan belt is tight and radiator is clean. The head can warp if they are left to constantly overheat and the centre bolt on the head is very close to the bores and can corrode and break in. Its a Continenal side valve engine.
Thanks for the heads up. I use this Hyster on average 2X a week and usually for less than 10 min or so at a time, and now that I have a gauge I can keep an eye on the temp. Always good to know where the weak points are to keep an eye on em.
Repack the cylinder, good video and job,👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Good lifter. I drove that one for years.
The firing order is cast on the head or intake manifold on most engines, a good piece of information to pass along to the younger mechanics watching your channel
Good looking out!
Just an old dog here
Wqw,, we had a 5 ton, 5000 kg one like this at work in the mid 80's ,, the Maintenance man replaced the old side-valve motor with a more modern OHV Holden motor ,,, took the duel wheels of and replaced them with single wheels ,, it still was going well when left 15 years later ,,
As soon as you said it stopped running after they replaced the plugs and wires, my first thought was, "firing order". :-)
Right! He said the "mechanic" tried the plug wires in two different spots and just stopped showing up. the Owner said he never tried any other order because his battery was almost dead and he was sick of dealing with the mechanic
I would think that is a three speed if you lift the hi-lo lever and pull it toward you that’ll give you first gear, it’s so low it’ll never have been used so probably be stiff
You are correct! That's a 3spd,no one really likes putting it in 3rd because it goes sort of fast and is scary to operate. The range shifter gets stiff because it's not used much!
I would install a glass fuel bowl type filter, this was any contamination settles in the sediment bowl which is easily cleaned out.
That's a good idea. seems like my current setup might let the little crud fall back into the tank
Great video, really enjoyed it.
It’s so funny I was just working on one of these today, literally identical model and all
The clutch is only there so you can give throttle for you hydraulics to operate faster without moving.
You don't need to use it when moving or changing from front to backward.
Hmmm I'ma have to try this when I get back to the shop. I was using the clutch like I usually do on other equipment.
It's an inching pedal not a clutch
@@joeharmer574 I think you will find that its an oil clutch you cant change direction without stopping. Hyster made these with an oil clutch and a torque convertor with power shift usually with the mototrol pedal but sone did have hand control levers. I worked at Hyster for 24 years
@@derekevans8266 After watching it again. it's a clutch. Doesnt mean it's the oil clutch version. I own 2 oil clutch units. Neither are monotrol and have a 13K one that's manual that is not oil clutch...similar to this one.
@@joeharmer574 I think they did oil clutches and dry clutches we only had one customer who bought oil clutches 99% were new monotrol
what did you pay for the forklift?....just curious
The fuel filter in the tank attaches to the round metal thing on the end of the fuel line. I've used them, and they're fine, but they're not supposed to go in the tank.
When you get recommended forklift videos because you watched musties
Ah that is why I got it.
Hahaha, that's the exact reason I'm here!
love the hysters have bunch of them at work 15k and 35k ones it will last you years
There is water in the hydraulics, the vent on the hydraulic reservoir is clogged. The vent tube on the mast cyl may be clogged, and the mast cyl probably needs repacked, both the piston seals and the top seal
Thanks for the info, I will take a look at that vent today!
It's actually a 3 speed mate (3 on the column)
I had an '84 Camaro that I did a tune-up on and after changing all the plugs, cap, rotor, wires, etc, it was running like crap. Went to pick my girlfriend up from work and one of her coworkers came out asking why it was running so rough. I told him everything I did and he said "I can fix it in five seconds". I was in disbelief, but I opened the hood and he looked around for a moment before grabbing hold of the cap and twisting it. You couldn't even see it turn, but sure enough when I started it, the car was running fine. He said that particular cap can look like it's seated correctly, but you have to wiggle it around and you'll feel it "click" into place when the springs on the clips engage properly.
Cause and effect, what was the last thing done when it stopped working. Middle of the night call: 'We changed the fuel filter and now it doesn't run." They had reversed the inlet and return lines. Retrace the steps. Made a few of those errors myself, knew who to blame.
Wow....that was no mechanic... that was probably a witch doctor who tossed a few bones for the firing order and hoped the forklift would run!
If someone puts a distributor cap on backwards, in fact has to force it on wrong, they have no business "fixing" anything. Good Purchase!
There's a *really* good chance this is contrived... No mechanic would ever do this.
@@andyh7537 this is the second forklift revival video ive seen lately where there just happens to be new plugs and wires that are hooked up wrong ...I'm not buying it plus he never showed any of the work he was doing I'm calling fake video
I operated those (and many larger versions) while i was in the Navy.
This is a great video!!!
I never have this easy of a fix on anything.
You have a saguaro cactus growing right there in your yard! I'm impressed!
Because of how slow they grow and how long it takes to grow their first arm, that Saguaro probably started growing right there around the time of the US Civil War. There is one across the street that could be almost 300 years old
@@AustinCoulson I hear occasionally they find shot from early muskets buried in the cactus, witness to the fact that they saw conflict in the region.
Decent FLT you've bought, should last for years.
@@peebee143 I have also heard of that, but never seen it in person. I did recently see a picture of a tree that was cut down exactly through the middle of a musket round. Very cool to see
really common issue with the hydraulic cylinder drifting, might require replacing the section in the valve body for the lift cylinder as those cylinders dont have holding valves and rely completely on the valve body to keep and maintain pressure in the cylinder.
Thanks for the info! I am by no means a hydraulic specialist so I will take a look at the manual and see how hard it looks to replace/repair that. Right now, the drift is so slow that it really hasn't affected its usefulness yet, and i've been too busy using this thing to have any downtime to work on it.
@@AustinCoulson honestly i would not even touch the valve body unless it is leaking alot, those can be a nightmare to seal correctly once taken apart. Plus its pretty normal to have some drift on a forklift as they are a material handler, and not a holder. if they were to be expected to hold things for extended periods of time the cylinders would have holding valves.
I worked on Allis Chamlers Wiggins Hysters But the Japanese forklifts run forever we had somw with 20,000 hrs. Never touched them outside of servicing
Awesome old Flathead power!
I’m looking at one of these right now what model is it... I’m looking for infor so I can find out about getting clutch parts
This is an 80C
@@AustinCoulson so I scrapped that idea and bought a hyster 150 ultra beast mode hahaha
@@gassolean hell yea
I had a good look back through the comments and only one person spotted that the radiator needs blowing out. It is jammed up pretty solid with rubbish.
Good eye. I cleaned it and yes it was disgusting.
It’s a steal for someone’s misfortune 🙈 Stevie 😎🏴
Score one for the home team nice video
Great job. I'm not trying to be negative when I say the the continental engine is very durable but never produce a lot of torque or HP. I've seen countless ones that have cracked the block on the deck (if I remember right, it happens between #1 and #2 cyls) In the forklift industry we joke that you get 1 HP per 100 pounds of engine. Your lift cylinder leak....The cylinder is what's called a non displacement cylinder so the seal on the bottom of the rod (on the piston) is bad. The hose that run down the side of the cylinder is so the fluid that gets by that seal has somewhere to go (back to tank) Obviously seals involved in the gland nut but that's just so it's directed out the hose. Just a little FYI
Not negative at all, great info to be on the lookout for!
Austin Coulson....a customer of mine has a 13K forklift very similar to yours but it has a straight 6 GM motor. Again...nice job buying and getting it going! If they could all be that easy!
@@joeharmer574 easiest fix I've had in years. Could have gone south really fast and ended up with a 11k lb boat anchor in the driveway
Austin Coulson.....No kidding! They are a very durable engine and I've got them running before after sitting for years
You either have a blockage in the filter, or there is air getting in from the suction line causing aeration of the fluid, if there is wear in the hydraulic pump it will also cause those symptoms
looks like you figured it out quicker than I did, probably due to your great name...I tear the filter apart in part 2 and it was clogged big time
Looks like an h80c model .... NICE ! Engine is an F242 ? Continental extra NICE . Radiator needs blowing out . Take care , America hasn't made anything that good in a long time .
I love 💘 my H80! It'll pick up the ass end of a Michigan special semi-truck without a problem and more it around. It'll pick up only one wheel on the front but we're talking about a vehicle that weighs 22k Ibs !!!
Hey great video I have one of these machines with a missing mast cylinder do you have any resources for parts?
There were a few industrial shops in Phx I used for hoses and seal. I got a lot from eBay though
Hyster forklifts are beasts
Nice save
Dear austin Nice vids man! Quick question, can you hook me up with some part numbers? need part nr of head gasket set, and my distributor is cracked and has play on it, i want to replace it with a pertronix D61-06a but i'm not sure if that is the correct replacement....
Is yours the continental engine? Let me see if I can find my manual
@@AustinCoulson yeah, it"s the f227
Top dead center compression, you could be tdc exhaust
That looks like the motor out of a Kaiser/ Frazer
My business partner has one of these. Thing just won't die.
More forklift videos please!!! 👍
I'm editing the next video where it gets all new fluid and gauges. Aiming for this week
@@AustinCoulson Praise the sweet name of Jesus. 🙏👍
Awsome buy!!
Wow, I think I have this same forklift. Looking forward to any more videos on it. Where did you get the manual. I need one.
I found it on eBay, I'm sure there are digital ones online but I couldn't find them. Links kept taking me to shady websites
@@AustinCoulson Maybe you could take this manual to a photocopy centre and they could create a copy and I could e-transfer you something for it. Maybe.
@@oby-1607 I thought about taking a picture of each page and posting it somewhere, but there has got to be a better way
Nice video
Brother , amazing machine but please lubricate those chains happy lifting 👍
I lubed them with 30w oil per the manual. Good eye.
@@AustinCoulson thanks for the compliment are they cleaned prior to lubeing
@@virtuousman794 I used a bristle brush and then soaked them in oil. I was taught on motorcycle chains to not degrease, steam clean, or pressure wash, but I'd be interested on your take on that
@@AustinCoulson we use tooth brush and gasoline to clean those chains and sprays crc or wd 40 brand premium white special lithium grease the stuff is amazing they won't run out or accumulate dust or grime easily by the way did u take care of those grease nipples.
Looks like a hercules engine- they are tough engines- but parts can be VERY scarce for particular models..
Try a Continental
Edit: As soon as I posted he said it was a Continental. I have a H80 Hyster with the same engine
all it needs now is paint. double mast forklifts a great, you can put stuff up high
This is the model I learned to operate a lift on.
Me puedes ayudar tengo mi hyster h110ft enciende y acelero el monotrol pero no avanza ni retrocede
Not a clutch. It works an inching valve in the trans. When you push this pedal it sure hold the brake and kicks the trans out of gear you can riv the engine to pick up a heavy load.
That previous“mechanic” should have his tools taken away.
100% and give them to someone who will learn to use them
@@AustinCoulson he probably mistook number 6 cylinder for number 1.
Since number 6 is in the front of the truck.
P.S.
I just drop plastic coffee straw into the spark plug hole, you can fish it around into the cylinder and feel the piston climb and fall.
@@glennchartrand5411 you are probably right on him mistaking the front and rear of the engine as front and rear of the forklift and doing the wiring backwards.
The problem with using a straw is on the flatheads the spark plug isn't over the Piston, it's off on the side and all you can see are the valves.
Turn idle down?
I personally wouldn't want to run a forklift that doesn't have a clutch. It makes it possible to rev up the engine to speed up the hydraulics while on the move, which is handy while unloading trucks from the ground
Inching pedal
Good work yo🗣🤯
goddamn i love forklifts
I've driven Clarks, Toyotas, Cyclones, Yales, some weird Indian import, and Hysters. I'm a Hyster guy, they really are built like tanks and run solid. The newer Toyotas are trash. Ours are constantly breaking or wearing our while the old 80's hysters keep running like tops.
My fav of the whole shop is the 12,000 lb Hyster we use as a backup for moving steel. She'll lift 12k and controls great. If the load's too heavy, she let's you know by not lifting it. The hydraulics won't budge. Our big 12,000 lb Toyota on the other hand will lift 10k and starts to get squirrely, hard to steer, bounces about. She'll lift more than she can carry but won't really let you know till it's too late and start to tip. The Toyota's 6 inches wider on either side and a foot longer than the Hyster and it makes it incredibly hard to see anything nearby.
Dang, I've had good luck with Toyotas, but they were all newer and I only used them sparingly when I rented them. I'm happy with this this ole pig so far, and I love flatheads. Very solid motor design, just low HP, but they make up for it with reliability
The Cat V50C's will lift more that it can carry too. They'll lift the back end of the ground and still keep lifting the load..
Grease the lift chains, or use chain lube. Rusty chain link pins can wear fast, one fails and you'll drop the load...
I removed them and soaked them in 30w oil per the manual. Good looking out!
Knowledge is money
Had a look at the video and you have a standard two stage upright and I am 99% sure that the hose from the top of the cylinder is just a vent hose and should never be under any amount of pressure. The oil leaking from the very top of the cylinder is leaking passed the wiper seal as it is venting back to the hydraulic tank. In theory there should never be any oil up there. The cause of your forks dropping is the oil is leaking passed the main ram seal getting to the head of the cylinder and venting back to the tank. So remove this vent pipe and see how much oil is getting passed the seal. Be careful you might get wet. The truck is a H80C
Thanks for the heads up, I will try that. Also, I was unaware that fully extending that cylinder often was good maintenance
I'll bet the previous owner is kicking himself over this one. LOL.
What year is your forklift? Thx
I think this one was a 69'
Where did you get that hat from. I have one just like it but I couldn’t see if yours says powered by toro on the back. Mine is neon green. From Russo logo looks identical.
My sister-in-law gave that to me last Christmas. She was working there in Chicago and I have almost no cold weather great since I live in AZ.
Mine has a little tag that says "Toro" on the back
Can you please help me with the chering system diagram please thank you
Chering?
That hydraulic fluid looked milky, probably has water in it or is suffering from cavitation causing it to airate
I work as a mechanic at a hyster dealership if you have any questions send me a Pm
Good job
AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD MECHANIC FOR MY OLDIES NISSAN 7000 LB FORKLIFT, AM IN SOUTH OF CHICAGO, HELP PLEASE
What is wrong with it? I actually know a good mobile mechanic in Chicago. I'll see if he is interested
@@AustinCoulson { Will like to call him pls & pls what forklift brand is the best to buy?
How much did. you pay for it
3200$
11k lbs ?!?
Holy hell its heavy for being so small.
The whole rear of this thing is solid cast iron. I was told the ballast section was almost 7k lbs alone, but all I can prove is it's more than I can lift!
Forklifts usually weigh 60% more than they can lift , most 5000lb trucks (the most common size) weigh about 8,000lbs this one is actually lighter than usual because the wheel base is so long.
Lowry used to buy two of these trucks , cut one in half just behind the drive wheels and the other one was cut behind the drivers seat , then they'd weld the two long pieces back together making a forklift that could lift 10,000-15,000 lbs (depending on which counter weight it had).
They also replaced the continental with a chevy vortec V-6.
They sold like hot cakes and Hyster threw a fit when they realized their old rebuilt trucks had a better reputation than their brand new ones.
Eventually the "supply" of old frames and counter weights was used up.
a flathead? how old is that thing?
Great question, the last digit of the serial number is K which is either a 1966 or 1989, I have been told it's probably a 89, but I have also been told they stopped using the Continental flat head in the early 70's
It's a F series Continental . One of the best industrial gas engines ever built . You'd have to take one apart to see why . Hint no pickup tube for oil . It can't ever lose prime . Many other important features . Also many users of flatheads didn't want to use OHV for a long time . Reason , valves in the block usually runs cooler . Forklift manufactures only used engines that were built for reliability and easy starting etc .
@@oddwad6290 I can't believe how much I am learning from the comments on these videos. There is a section in the manual on this engine and I want to really dive into it. Any idea when they stopped making these motors?
@@AustinCoulson my H80 is a 1969
Basically only thing I've had to replace where hoses. I changed the hydraulic fluid due to water contamination also wheel cylinders and master cylinder for the same reason. I've had mine for over 15yrs.
@@AustinCoulson I didn't think they made any flathead engines at all since the early 1950s. that's why I'm so surprised. I'd say definitely gotta be '66. it looks too old to be from '89
nice video
you need to wash that radiator looks full of dirt
For sure. I just noticed a tiny leak at the top, so I will be cleaning it and brazing it soon. Got some recommendations to flush it, even though it looks clean inside as well.
Wondering if you're from anywhere along a line from roughly central Ohio through Denver, Colorado, Austin........ if so, we're probably related, and there's an interesting story.
That's where I am from, ancestors were original homesteaders about an hour and a half East of Denver, shoot me an email, would love to hear the story. Should be able to message me directly from my channel page but if not let me know i'll get you a good email address
@@AustinCoulson Can't message through channel other than this. If we're kin, your Coulson ancestor arrived there between 1916 and 1925, or so..... perhaps a bit later. I'm what's left of the Iowa branch.
@@maniyan_wanagi shoot me an email at acthecarguy@gmail.com with whatever information you have on names. My grandfather was born in 1925 and he is still alive and with it and very much involved in our ancestry so he will almost certainly know if there is a connection. Had an ancestor fight with the 1/22 Iowa Infantry in the Civil War so I know I have roots there
Go to where the last guy worked
When hustlers used to be good lol not anymore. Great engine but a pain to adjust the valves on and we had problems with heads on the conti cranking
You're not the first person to mention heads cracking. I've been watching the temp closely
Austin Coulson 19 years working on hyster when they used to be a good truck (not anymore) the heads fail at the side of the combustion chambers on the continental engines quite regularly. Another big problems with trucks that aren’t used that much is the oil emulsifying I’ve serviced them and the oil is white lol and I’m talking quiet a few of them doing it. On the whole though a good engine that can take a large amount of pain (certainly a better engine than the v6 vortex that followed it) it as others have said make sure the thermostat is good I’ve come across a few where people have run them with the stats out because of cooling faults this is guaranteed to destroy the engine long term.
The manual transmission is also fairly bomb proof is your 3 or 2 speed?.
The issue with your lift cylinder lifting could be a failed check valve in the bottom of the cylinder it’s there to allow any oil that gets past the piston to get back to the bottom, these are prone to failing on the later hysters. How fast is it dropping?? The spec is 2 inches in 10 minutes under load anything more than this is a problem. To test this install a gate valve onto the hose into the cylinder lift a load and close the valve if it doesn’t drift with the valve closed the problem isn’t in the cylinder
On the whole the H80C is a great truck and last forever the only stronger hyster is prob either the S150A or the H60J
@@philholt577 mine is the 3 speed. Someone else had mentioned installing a valve there, but I was having trouble sourcing a valve rated for that pressure. Any suggestions on where to find one?
Anybody know what engine this is?
This was a Continental F226 I6