Hey your buddy needs a freelift cylinder rebuild kit his secondary cylinders are lifting out of sequence because there is too much drag on the gland seals which is why the rod has seal material smearing onto it. The seals in the gland at the end of the cylinder tube get rust between the seal and gland which rust-jacks the seals against the rod I worked on these exact lifts in the field for four years for a Toyota dealer in the Pittsburgh PA and still service the same area. If you have any questions just reach out been watching your videos for years
As a forklift mechanic I approve this video lol ... Toyota’s are pretty good machines. I work on almost all brands and I actually repair these the least if that tells you anything. Just make sure you stay on top of your greasing and she’ll last a while
Not a mechanic, but I owned a fleet of Toyota lifts. Bought them new, never a serious problem of any kind. Kept them properly maintained and were still going strong when we sold the business.
@@Watchyn_Yarwood yeah Toyota has the same quality in their forklifts as they do their cars and trucks. If I ever needed to own one I’d buy a Toyota hands down lol
As a forklift mechanic for 20 years, and same as you, work on all brands I have to say I have a good amount of respect for them - the trucks I look after in the field with the highest hours on them are nearly exclusively Toyota's
I put 8500 hours on a similar sized cat machine, it has a lot more slop in the control linkages than yours. Side shift is a mandatory feature far as I'm concerned, great choice.
One thing I miss the most about the last company I worked for was both forklifts had side shift. My current work doesn't and it's bitten me in the ass so many times. Having to do a million point turn with something heavy way up high on the forks sucks, being able to side shift it over would be so much nicer.
These Toyota forklifts are the best LPG and diesel forklifts out there in my opinion, these are truly magnificent and robust machines. They run smoothly, can take a beating, and are surprisingly comfortable considering their utilitarian mission. We got like 12 of them at my job and they just keep on running and running. I love running them. Great video.
Pro safety tip from a forklift mechanic when working on a Toyota with the SAS system and its important. DO NOT start the engine if you've got the machine jacked over at a sideways angle, if you do the SAS ram on the steer axle will kick in to try level the truck up potentially throwing the machine off the jack/blocks. On the electrics its even worse as they will do the same thing but as soon as you turn the ignition on. Trust me - I've been there 😂
Forklift parking brakes.. unless one and only one guy ever drives the forklift, pretty much get forgotten engaged a bunch of times and then they don't do much until they're inspected and re-adjusted. Forkilfts very easily overcome the parking brake. Torquey little buggers. Drove a certain late 90's vintage Nissan propane forklift of similar size to your Totoya for many years, they're impressively dependable machines.
the fork wear thing is a rule of thumb, i have had a few inspectors caught out with this as they don't really have the full specs as they should! as a forklift attachment engineer, it is depending on the spec of the forks, if you have a forklift with a fork positioner as an example, you can get low profile forks for low profile pallets and for picking packs of bricks up, this is due to the forks been classed as tines and not forks but they are forks as strange as it sounds (you can see the difference as a tine will have a line of bolts down its face in most cases, forks are a one piece construction where Kaup tines are 2 and welded by robots ) in regards to holes in forks cant drill into them but if they are tines you can also with tines you can legally weld heel plates on the bottom of the tines to get more life out of them but this is only with KAUP forks, you can also get holes in these tines for add ons such as clamps... in my opinion toyota trucks are ok but a little clunky, harder to get auxiliaries fitted as its a whole new valve where on other trucks its valve sandwich which just needs bolted on the end or even turned on and the mast revving :)
Hyster is a great name. I'm glad to hear their electric forklifts have served y'all well. They have an awesome line of LPG forklifts too, the H60FT that's bulletproof. I used to use their electric walkie pallet jacks when I worked in grocery retail, they never needed anything but water. Extremely reliable.
Make sure you flush that trans if there is no record of it. I rebuilt 2 of them last week. If you ever have to pull the trans pull it from the top, leave engine in truck. No need to remove the hood either.
I work on Hyster forklifts every day. We have them ranging in years from 1989 all the way up until 2018 and they are good quality. We have a handful of Toyotas as well and they are a good little machine also
I used to run Hyster H100XL they were late 80s early 90 machines had Perkins power. The lifts of lumber we used to pick with them. I had quite a few years of forklift experience before I started at the building supply. I would push the 100XLs to the max I knew how to work a forklift. The other guys would say you can't lift that oh ya watch me their eye balls wide open.
My work is one of those places that actually use forklifts. 2000 hours on that one, that's like brand new! We run somewhere north of 150 Toyotas, mostly 8fgcu25's. It's not uncommon for us to have 18,000 plus hours on lifts that we still use daily. One of our higher hour units has over 35000 hours. It's honestly amazing these things handle hours as well as they do. You forgot to mention looking at the mast mounting bolts. Replacing the bolts is not that big of a deal, but if your mast is not secure, there's a real possibility that other pieces are getting bent, and that gets expensive. IMO cylinders are about next on the list of expensive repairs, a leaking cylinder is an expensive fix. 2 biggest care habits to get into - make friends with your blow gun and use air pressure to clean out everything under the hood frequently, dirt is your enemy. Second, don't get into the habit of laying things next to the seat, tape guns, clip boards, etc - what I see way too often is when the hood is tipped, something that was laying next to the seat falls into the engine compartment, if it's running that means you'll be buying a new fan blade at best, and radiator all too frequently. If you want to save tons on tires, buy your tires from a tire store, not a forklift dealer. To lower your tire costs by 30%, take the tires off yourself and bring them to your vendor to have solids pressed off and onto the rims. What happens of you call the forklift repairman for tires, is you end up paying them $130-$150 an hour to drive back and forth to their shop to press off and on tires, eliminate paying for drive / seat time. Toyotas have been durable machines for us, and we rack up the hours quickly.
Watch the wiring to the alternator going overtop of the valve cover. We have multiple Toyota 8FDU25’s that I work on, all above 20,000 hours. Very easy to work on besides wiring, it can get to be a mess very quickly.
Kevin is class, always adds bit of farmer flare to the videos . LOve the forklift, good all round machine that one, so handy almost everyone should own one :-) and with home delivery becoming the norm great excuse if wife complains lol .
Used this for many years , fast , robust and agile once you get used to it . At about 500kg , you'll start to feel the weight of your load on your forklift so you'll know you are lifting something heavy .
Those Toyota 8FD30 are excellent forklifts, the SAS system is very good.. makes it very hard to tip one over sideways unless on some really uneven ground 2000 hours is like new for one of those, the only weak point is the transmission, which especially if used on ramps, tends to crap out at 8-10k hours.. the rest of the truck, if looked after will do 15-20k hours without too many issues
Mitsubishi isn’t too bad, I ran one of those for years, in a Electrical Supply House. I also ran a Toyota kinda like that one and I don’t know how many Hysters I drove and ran. Yeah we had a hole in one of the forks on our Mitsubishi, for a ball and other things, far as I know it never weakened the fork on it. Yeah I believe our Toyota tow motor/forklift had the little diesel in it too!
We've got 2 old Komatsu forklifts on our sawmill, they're pieces of junk because there so old and abused but they don't quit. They've got the Nissan H40 lpg engine in them, and they give me issues with the ignition on the regular but otherwise run pretty well.
I looked are are lifts we have at work The lift I personally like using has 17,856 hours right now, , emissions sticker says 2013 other 4 have around 15,000 hours and one of them have 30,134 hours not even joking, they use to be ran just about 24/7 at a factory, good lifts simple all have side shift and have auto sliding forks The one with 30,000 hours does feel weird, driving like the break/clutch pedal probably needs adjustment the engagement point makes it difficult to two foot drive ( slow in/out moving / removing machinery etc) also seams a bit slow to rev, like more pedal is needed to have the power that is wanted, engine is probably wearing out, to the best of my knowledge they never had any major repair, just typical cracked radiator, breaks, fluids a hose or two. Personally I like them way more than the yale lifts we have
i drove one of these SAS toyotas for a while, that stability system is nice if it works on that unit, i drove the propane version so i cant sppeak about that engine but those are well built forklifts and if it does get maintained it will last a good while
We have one just like that one in the video at work. we had a pair of propane ones but now have a diesel one. they work fine on concrete or asphalt but on gravel or if there's snow forget it. On gravel go get the off road forklift or get ready to be pulled out.
Really interesting that the left hand (not the parking brake) pedal is a brake, all the ones I've driven that's either a clutch or the inching pedal. Does it have two brake pedals? Was having a chat to my old boss recently about lifting equipment inspections in the UK. Tractors linkages never seem to get inspected, telehandlers and forklifts do, front end loaders seem like a bit of a grey area that just gets overlooked. Last time I had anything to do with it, if they were just lifting things the inspections were every year, if you'd ever put a man cage on then it was 6 months.
@@tomcardale5596 an inching pedal is a brake, also known as a inching brake and also serves the purpose of a clutch. To those not up to par with forklift lingo its a brake, used very similarly to the brake in a car with an automatic transmission.
@@jaydunbar7538 Thank you for that explanation, really handy! The only relevant vehicles I've had experience on are completely manual forklifts, tractors with CVTs (in both of which it's a clutch); or telehandlers with torque converters that have a go pedal and a really wide stop pedal. The latter you end up doing left foot braking when you're trying to raise the boom quick enough to not slam it in to the side of a trailer :D
MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE EARS OUT AND SEE HOW WELL THEY LIFT EACH EAR INDEPENDENT OF ONE ANOTHER JUST REMEMBER FORKLIFT TRUCKS HAVE 16 INDIVIDUAL MUSCLES IN EACH EAR SO THAT'S 32 MUSCLES ALL TOGETHER
I use to drive that exact model of that Toyota for 4 year it also had sas system active stability had mast lavel but on and had a fork scales to 😎 never had to get of hardly but a gas one has in it use to do 20 mph with a 2ton load on it with a demolition cage and solid had side shift and a fork positioner in one mechanism when 4 leaver up down tilt forward and back and the back rest did not move so the forks could spread with one leaver on the hydraulic ram and a completely different leaver would side shift on the same ram and was weird to use but once u got use to it magic put pallets next to each flush with out the back rest digging in to to next pallet and dragging a big hole in it but a doosan has turbo with same fork attachment and that wen 20-24 mph with a 2.5 ton load and even went the same speed with no load 😎
-The weight and height you can lift is massively more on a fork-truck. -If you use the machines a lot cost of operation also starts to become a noticeable benefit... a fork will end up costing less per hour (and far less per kilo moved) to run, while being easier on your body to do for hours at a time (and often quieter too, a big deal if noise is an issue where/when you work). -If your going for a larger 4x4 fork or telescopic handler, it'll tear the ground up a lot less than a skid steer. -Depending on engine/fuel choice forks can be a lot safer to run indoors, meanwhile skid steers for underground use are uncommon and expensive to acquire by comparison. -Having both means your less likely to get stuck in a situation you can't manage, especially if something breaks during time sensitive operations like planting/harvest where stress is high and often outside hands are brought in who might have used one kind of machine but not the other. You can even use one machine to fix the other during the off season, unless your the sort who pretends they are going to unload several hundred kilos of engine from a truck and fit it in the engine bay by hand (or your luck enough to have an overhead rail system).
Ive used a couple different forklifts. Definitely got to get one to suit your environment. You can get 4wd version as well What about a telehandler for the next buy
Can't remember where but some inspector told me if the knee of the fork is worn down bij 10% the load capacity decreases bij 20%. 20% worn down, 40% less capacity (legally) of course you can lift more but it's not really recommended. Not totally sure about this so correct me if I'm wrong. And its a law in Europe btw, not Canada. We have 2 old Nissan's 1.5 and a 4 ton, 14.000 and 500 hours.
@@daveclark4028 and that's how it should be. Around here they only look at the hydraulics, if the forks don't lower with a load after a set amount of time they pass. F stupid but cheaper and while working at a farm, common sense is a valuable thing.
Also if looking at an off lease forklift i found a new machine was less than 20% more making it purely and intelligence test to go with used. Also if leased or used don’t buy it’s it’s been used in a foundry or cement plant- total destruction on bearings. We have a 5k Toyota 3 stage mast dual fuel And love it- bought it new approx 5 years ago and other than a battery nothing for repairs- and yes Toyota forklift uses crappy batteries with three year life just like their vehicles :-(.
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Cat mitsubishi forklifts I would say are better than Toyota's none of that sas shit and easier too work on and Toyotas are really rattly and break engine mounting bolts
For me the process was: Does it work: No Age: 60+ years Big wheel: yes In good condition/well maintained: Hell no Price: $500 Parts readily available: not really So I bought it. After replacing all the hydraulic lines, making the brakes work, and redoing some of the wiring, it's been great. The only major repairs it's needed in 4 years are an oil pump after that exploded, and a hydraulic pump after it blew the shaft seal and dumped all the hydraulic fluid into the engine. I also had to replace the water pump recently. Well worth it. It just sucks that it's so old that it doesn't have power steering, so it is really hard to drive, even on dirt. But it's dead simple and easy to fix anything, which is what I wanted.
Damn that "Hell no" made me laugh for 2 minutes, my 2 cracked ribs do not thank you ! Just out of curiosity, how much did the repairs amount to ? Have you been able to rebuild anything yourself or had to buy new parts ?
@@crezychameau The oil pump plus the engine bearings it took out was around $200. It was about $250 to get the hydraulic pump rebuilt, and the water pump was $80. Everything in the thing was designed to be easily serviceable so yes I can do pretty much everything myself.
Test the stability system just jack up one of the steering tire (not extremely high like 2-3“) with the key on. Then turn off the key and lower the jack and the tire should be up in the air until you turn back on the key and the forklift will suddenly go back down. Parking brake is required for this.
Swing lock is easy to test. With the truck on jack it up from the year and put a pry bar under one of the tires and articulate one of the wheels up. Turn the truck off and lower it down and you'll notice it's not completely level. Turn the truck on and it should automatically articulate down back to level. That's how you test and make sure that system works.
Hey Rich! Great video. You touched on a lot of points most people overlook. I'd like to add a few footnotes: I worked on all kinds of forklifts for many years and Toyotas were the best in every measurable way: reliable, easy to work on and get parts for, cheap to run, hold value extremely well, never once did I ever shake my head at how they were designed or dealing with parts availability, which says a lot. As you said annual lift inspections aren't required for agriculture, so any agricultural use will hurt resale value (sorry Kevin!) If you want attachments, make SURE they're accounted for on the capacity plate - as the weight and the increased distance it puts the load from the axle centre (load centre) will reduce your lift capacity (sometimes drastically!) If you're adding something, better figure this out if you don't want to tip over. 3-stage masts are the most desirable - if you don't plan on ever lifting too high, a two-stage might be a deal. Quad masts are expensive to fix, so steer clear unless you need to lift that high. Beware - I've seen some people cut masts off one truck and put them on another to resell - if the welds on the axle pivot don't look factory or there's fresh paint there, it may be a cut-and-shut. Cascade makes a nice kit for checking forks - comes in a box with the gauge and a set of instructions. Check it out. Most chain manufacturers make a gauge of their own but they're all the same - use it properly! Also check the section that sits on the chainwheel as that's where the most wear happens. Stretch is important but also turned pins! All the swage marks on the pins need to line up with each other - if one is turned it has broken loose from the leaf and is in danger of walking out (this usually happens due to rusting or overloading and is a fail). You mentioned the swing lock cylinder - good eye! There's a plastic plug on it you can pry off and check if an indicator pin has moved, indicating the charge inside has gone out. They are normally closed, electrically unlocked so if it's articulating when the truck is on, and you've checked the pin, you're fine! If there's an electrical problem it usually shows up on the dash. They're not bad to figure out - get the manual set from the dealer, they're extremely well written. I'm sure there's a ton more to mention - but Kevin has the most desirable model of the most desirable mfr - Toyota. From a completely unbiased opinion (I no longer work in the industry), it'll be a great ownership experience! Bonus tip: Lift the forks up and lean the mast back, place hardwood blocks under the mast heels and tilt forward - it'll lift the body up several inches so you can block behind the front wheels for servicing underneath or changing tires. Faster and easier than jacking it up!
Excellent summarization, you covered everything needed.I worked on forklifts for 17yrs after 5yrs on h/d trucks. Worked for a Cat forklift dealer 13yrs and a Yale dealer 4yrs. I agree about Toyotas, they get A's in all aspects, fit & finish, reliability, serviceability, quality materials, logical engineering. Yale is a strong second place.
I have been working with TMHU for years. I currently manage a Toyota parts department. That is the a great lift and TOYOTA has the highest resale value. You can verify that per Ritchie bros auctions.
If you're going to be using a forklift for anything where safety inspections are happening, for like a personal business where the forklift gets moved around to job sites, don't drill holes in your forks. Use an adapter and swing it onto the fork mast that has a tow eye. or make an adapter that can be chained to the forks. You definitely don't want to have to replace forks unless you absolutely have to.
My absolute favorite forklift was a (probably) 20 year old Linde with the hydrostatic transmission. Had a forward pedal and a reverse pedal (no shifting). 3 tier boom, side shift. It only had a parking brake, the motion system was the braking system so no regular brake pedal, just take you foot off the direction pedal and it begins to stop. I hated it at first. But once I got used to it it was my favorite.
The production forklifts at my work are Lindes, I don't like how they don't creep forwards when you let off the brake and immediately slow down when you left off the gas. The maintenance lifts that I drive are old Doosans, they're decent. I don't drive lift all day every day so that might make a difference.
been a forklift tech in your area for over 30yrs. Toyota forklifts are the best up tp 10,000lb capacity.The Cadillac. they go the most hrs for the least amount of repair. That forklift there is valued at around 15k. and yes u can drill a hole in the fork. the manufacture has specs on how to do so on there website.
As a forklift tech for Raymond who's owned by toyota. Toyota makes a good lift truck. Good call on your chains. Free lift chains get used 2x as much as main lift chains. Proper lubrication will give them a long life. You got A good truck
Great info. Just want to add something to keep in mind. If you want a lift that will raise a 6000 pound load, you will need a 8000 pound lift capacity fork lift. If you have a lift that says it can raise 6000 pounds, you have to subtract the carriage and fork weight from the lift capacity.
We have a forklift at work and it has the solid tires on it. We were getting stuck in the snow everywhere in the garden so we got a set of chains. Night and day difference!
Been in the forklift business for 27 years. Toyota was the gold standard back then..Much has changed and I would say they make an absolutely sub par propane product. Go with a Hyster or Yale.
I've often thought it would be interesting to see a total engine RPM counter along with the hours. Give you an idea of if it's spent loads of time idling (which can be worse than being used for some engines), if it's been thrashed or whatever.
@@Jaxon-iu6vb Total fuel used would also be a good measure, you're right. That is coming with the more modern vehicles with telematics, who knows whether that sort of information will be available to second users or be used to swing the price at all.
We only have Toyota forklifts in our fleet. We still have 6FGCU25 models that still run like champs with close to 30,000 hours. They run 24/5 nonstop. Routine maintenance makes these lifts last a lifetime damn near.
Toyota lift trucks are the best on the market bar none, I've been in this industry for over 25 yrs and inspect and drive them everyday on the job and those engines are known to go 15000+ hrs under regular maintenance which is equal, half million kilometres, only one close to Toyota is a Nissan lift truck, or shop has had a few Cat lift trucks, terrible finicky and expensive, yes Toyota any day
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Hey your buddy needs a freelift cylinder rebuild kit his secondary cylinders are lifting out of sequence because there is too much drag on the gland seals which is why the rod has seal material smearing onto it. The seals in the gland at the end of the cylinder tube get rust between the seal and gland which rust-jacks the seals against the rod I worked on these exact lifts in the field for four years for a Toyota dealer in the Pittsburgh PA and still service the same area. If you have any questions just reach out been watching your videos for years
Those chain need some grease ive never seen them that dry.
As a forklift mechanic I approve this video lol ... Toyota’s are pretty good machines. I work on almost all brands and I actually repair these the least if that tells you anything. Just make sure you stay on top of your greasing and she’ll last a while
Not a mechanic, but I owned a fleet of Toyota lifts. Bought them new, never a serious problem of any kind. Kept them properly maintained and were still going strong when we sold the business.
p.s. Not diesel, LP.
@@Watchyn_Yarwood yeah Toyota has the same quality in their forklifts as they do their cars and trucks. If I ever needed to own one I’d buy a Toyota hands down lol
As a forklift mechanic for 20 years, and same as you, work on all brands I have to say I have a good amount of respect for them - the trucks I look after in the field with the highest hours on them are nearly exclusively Toyota's
We just bought an LP Toyota to handle fuel drums - how often would you say to lube if we are only running it 1-10 hours a month?
I love those Toyota forklifts .
I drove one for 7 years in a indoor - outdoor environment very tough and reliable .
It was a propane gas model.
Toyora tech here. That vintage of toyota you check trans fluid with engine off.
Damn 2011 is considered "vintage" 🤣🤣 what year do we live in again?
Vintage? It’s the same transmission they put in the new lifts too. The transmission only changes if you get a higher capacity truck. Toyota tech too!
@@NittoNba44 Nah, about 25-30 years is when us forklift engineers consider them vintage
@@NittoNba44 He didn't say it was "vintage". He said "THAT vintage of Toyota", in others words, "those years of Toyota". Look up the definition guys.
@@NittoNba44 He means that model. 8 series Toyota transmission are checked with the engine off
I put 8500 hours on a similar sized cat machine, it has a lot more slop in the control linkages than yours. Side shift is a mandatory feature far as I'm concerned, great choice.
One thing I miss the most about the last company I worked for was both forklifts had side shift. My current work doesn't and it's bitten me in the ass so many times. Having to do a million point turn with something heavy way up high on the forks sucks, being able to side shift it over would be so much nicer.
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These Toyota forklifts are the best LPG and diesel forklifts out there in my opinion, these are truly magnificent and robust machines. They run smoothly, can take a beating, and are surprisingly comfortable considering their utilitarian mission. We got like 12 of them at my job and they just keep on running and running. I love running them. Great video.
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Pro safety tip from a forklift mechanic when working on a Toyota with the SAS system and its important.
DO NOT start the engine if you've got the machine jacked over at a sideways angle, if you do the SAS ram on the steer axle will kick in to try level the truck up potentially throwing the machine off the jack/blocks.
On the electrics its even worse as they will do the same thing but as soon as you turn the ignition on.
Trust me - I've been there 😂
After being a forklift operator for 10 years, Toyota has been my favorite manufacturer
Our warehouses all have Hyster and Toyota for the inside. But the Hysters are a huge to carry containers. They’re the size of his combine lol
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Forklift parking brakes.. unless one and only one guy ever drives the forklift, pretty much get forgotten engaged a bunch of times and then they don't do much until they're inspected and re-adjusted. Forkilfts very easily overcome the parking brake. Torquey little buggers.
Drove a certain late 90's vintage Nissan propane forklift of similar size to your Totoya for many years, they're impressively dependable machines.
the fork wear thing is a rule of thumb, i have had a few inspectors caught out with this as they don't really have the full specs as they should! as a forklift attachment engineer, it is depending on the spec of the forks, if you have a forklift with a fork positioner as an example, you can get low profile forks for low profile pallets and for picking packs of bricks up, this is due to the forks been classed as tines and not forks but they are forks as strange as it sounds (you can see the difference as a tine will have a line of bolts down its face in most cases, forks are a one piece construction where Kaup tines are 2 and welded by robots ) in regards to holes in forks cant drill into them but if they are tines you can also with tines you can legally weld heel plates on the bottom of the tines to get more life out of them but this is only with KAUP forks, you can also get holes in these tines for add ons such as clamps... in my opinion toyota trucks are ok but a little clunky, harder to get auxiliaries fitted as its a whole new valve where on other trucks its valve sandwich which just needs bolted on the end or even turned on and the mast revving :)
We have 3 hyster electric forklifts we just use em inside tho and have held up great for us. Also Yale and Hyster are the same basically.
Hyster is a great name. I'm glad to hear their electric forklifts have served y'all well. They have an awesome line of LPG forklifts too, the H60FT that's bulletproof. I used to use their electric walkie pallet jacks when I worked in grocery retail, they never needed anything but water. Extremely reliable.
Make sure you flush that trans if there is no record of it. I rebuilt 2 of them last week. If you ever have to pull the trans pull it from the top, leave engine in truck. No need to remove the hood either.
As a forklift technician for Caterpillar Forklift repair company this is good information
I work on Hyster forklifts every day. We have them ranging in years from 1989 all the way up until 2018 and they are good quality. We have a handful of Toyotas as well and they are a good little machine also
I used to run Hyster H100XL they were late 80s early 90 machines had Perkins power. The lifts of lumber we used to pick with them. I had quite a few years of forklift experience before I started at the building supply. I would push the 100XLs to the max I knew how to work a forklift. The other guys would say you can't lift that oh ya watch me their eye balls wide open.
My work is one of those places that actually use forklifts. 2000 hours on that one, that's like brand new! We run somewhere north of 150 Toyotas, mostly 8fgcu25's. It's not uncommon for us to have 18,000 plus hours on lifts that we still use daily. One of our higher hour units has over 35000 hours. It's honestly amazing these things handle hours as well as they do. You forgot to mention looking at the mast mounting bolts. Replacing the bolts is not that big of a deal, but if your mast is not secure, there's a real possibility that other pieces are getting bent, and that gets expensive. IMO cylinders are about next on the list of expensive repairs, a leaking cylinder is an expensive fix. 2 biggest care habits to get into - make friends with your blow gun and use air pressure to clean out everything under the hood frequently, dirt is your enemy. Second, don't get into the habit of laying things next to the seat, tape guns, clip boards, etc - what I see way too often is when the hood is tipped, something that was laying next to the seat falls into the engine compartment, if it's running that means you'll be buying a new fan blade at best, and radiator all too frequently. If you want to save tons on tires, buy your tires from a tire store, not a forklift dealer. To lower your tire costs by 30%, take the tires off yourself and bring them to your vendor to have solids pressed off and onto the rims. What happens of you call the forklift repairman for tires, is you end up paying them $130-$150 an hour to drive back and forth to their shop to press off and on tires, eliminate paying for drive / seat time. Toyotas have been durable machines for us, and we rack up the hours quickly.
Watch the wiring to the alternator going overtop of the valve cover. We have multiple Toyota 8FDU25’s that I work on, all above 20,000 hours. Very easy to work on besides wiring, it can get to be a mess very quickly.
Enjoy your farm friend! Great guy on camera get him on more plz
Kevin is class, always adds bit of farmer flare to the videos .
LOve the forklift, good all round machine that one, so handy almost everyone should own one :-) and with home delivery becoming the norm great excuse if wife complains lol .
These are all U-Haul runs love them.. remember the day it came off the truck
Also check the bearings in the mast.
Used this for many years , fast , robust and agile once you get used to it . At about 500kg , you'll start to feel the weight of your load on your forklift so you'll know you are lifting something heavy .
Always look forward to your videos. Checking in from Elberta, Alabama, 🇺🇸.
Those Toyota 8FD30 are excellent forklifts, the SAS system is very good.. makes it very hard to tip one over sideways unless on some really uneven ground
2000 hours is like new for one of those, the only weak point is the transmission, which especially if used on ramps, tends to crap out at 8-10k hours.. the rest of the truck, if looked after will do 15-20k hours without too many issues
You can actually make it run on 3 wheels using the SAS feature 😁
Mitsubishi isn’t too bad, I ran one of those for years, in a Electrical Supply House. I also ran a Toyota kinda like that one and I don’t know how many Hysters I drove and ran. Yeah we had a hole in one of the forks on our Mitsubishi, for a ball and other things, far as I know it never weakened the fork on it. Yeah I believe our Toyota tow motor/forklift had the little diesel in it too!
Toyota makes a solid forklift personally
We've got 2 old Komatsu forklifts on our sawmill, they're pieces of junk because there so old and abused but they don't quit.
They've got the Nissan H40 lpg engine in them, and they give me issues with the ignition on the regular but otherwise run pretty well.
I looked are are lifts we have at work
The lift I personally like using has 17,856 hours right now, , emissions sticker says 2013 other 4 have around 15,000 hours and one of them have 30,134 hours not even joking, they use to be ran just about 24/7 at a factory, good lifts simple all have side shift and have auto sliding forks
The one with 30,000 hours does feel weird, driving like the break/clutch pedal probably needs adjustment the engagement point makes it difficult to two foot drive ( slow in/out moving / removing machinery etc) also seams a bit slow to rev, like more pedal is needed to have the power that is wanted, engine is probably wearing out, to the best of my knowledge they never had any major repair, just typical cracked radiator, breaks, fluids a hose or two.
Personally I like them way more than the yale lifts we have
you 2 make for interesting banter very entertaining videos
i drove one of these SAS toyotas for a while, that stability system is nice if it works on that unit, i drove the propane version so i cant sppeak about that engine but those are well built forklifts and if it does get maintained it will last a good while
i have to note that i would pick a yale over it if the yale had the controls on the engine deck instead of the dash
We have one just like that one in the video at work. we had a pair of propane ones but now have a diesel one. they work fine on concrete or asphalt but on gravel or if there's snow forget it. On gravel go get the off road forklift or get ready to be pulled out.
thats the forklift i learnt in but the petrol one.
Another great video 👍👍🇨🇱
Hyster-yale seems to work well. Nissan has some cool older models, Mitsubishi-cats tend to stall a lot, but are fairly nice to run.
Also Toyota tech here from Denmark 🇩🇰
Make sure your lower hooks are tight on the carriage every so often. 24mm
Really interesting that the left hand (not the parking brake) pedal is a brake, all the ones I've driven that's either a clutch or the inching pedal. Does it have two brake pedals?
Was having a chat to my old boss recently about lifting equipment inspections in the UK. Tractors linkages never seem to get inspected, telehandlers and forklifts do, front end loaders seem like a bit of a grey area that just gets overlooked. Last time I had anything to do with it, if they were just lifting things the inspections were every year, if you'd ever put a man cage on then it was 6 months.
The left pedal is an inching pedal.
@@daveclark4028 well that's what I was wondering but not what Rich said!
@@tomcardale5596 an inching pedal is a brake, also known as a inching brake and also serves the purpose of a clutch. To those not up to par with forklift lingo its a brake, used very similarly to the brake in a car with an automatic transmission.
@@jaydunbar7538 Thank you for that explanation, really handy!
The only relevant vehicles I've had experience on are completely manual forklifts, tractors with CVTs (in both of which it's a clutch); or telehandlers with torque converters that have a go pedal and a really wide stop pedal. The latter you end up doing left foot braking when you're trying to raise the boom quick enough to not slam it in to the side of a trailer :D
MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE EARS OUT AND SEE HOW WELL THEY LIFT EACH EAR INDEPENDENT OF ONE ANOTHER JUST REMEMBER FORKLIFT TRUCKS HAVE 16 INDIVIDUAL MUSCLES IN EACH EAR SO THAT'S 32 MUSCLES ALL TOGETHER
I use to drive that exact model of that Toyota for 4 year it also had sas system active stability had mast lavel but on and had a fork scales to 😎 never had to get of hardly but a gas one has in it use to do 20 mph with a 2ton load on it with a demolition cage and solid had side shift and a fork positioner in one mechanism when 4 leaver up down tilt forward and back and the back rest did not move so the forks could spread with one leaver on the hydraulic ram and a completely different leaver would side shift on the same ram and was weird to use but once u got use to it magic put pallets next to each flush with out the back rest digging in to to next pallet and dragging a big hole in it but a doosan has turbo with same fork attachment and that wen 20-24 mph with a 2.5 ton load and even went the same speed with no load 😎
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Really enjoying these review videos waiting on valtra review
Huh fork lift on a farm, sorta a new one for me. What would be the benefit of a fork lift over a skid steer and a good set of forks?
Lifting capacity. Safety if you get on and off a lot, especially with the load up in the air
-The weight and height you can lift is massively more on a fork-truck.
-If you use the machines a lot cost of operation also starts to become a noticeable benefit... a fork will end up costing less per hour (and far less per kilo moved) to run, while being easier on your body to do for hours at a time (and often quieter too, a big deal if noise is an issue where/when you work).
-If your going for a larger 4x4 fork or telescopic handler, it'll tear the ground up a lot less than a skid steer.
-Depending on engine/fuel choice forks can be a lot safer to run indoors, meanwhile skid steers for underground use are uncommon and expensive to acquire by comparison.
-Having both means your less likely to get stuck in a situation you can't manage, especially if something breaks during time sensitive operations like planting/harvest where stress is high and often outside hands are brought in who might have used one kind of machine but not the other. You can even use one machine to fix the other during the off season, unless your the sort who pretends they are going to unload several hundred kilos of engine from a truck and fit it in the engine bay by hand (or your luck enough to have an overhead rail system).
All kinds of farms have forklifts... for years
Awesome guys. And I’m tryin for build one in eight scale!!
And we need terrorgater (sp?) vids 😆
Coming soon!
I like the vice grip hat
That seat looks way more throne like than the one on my Komatsu.
Seat? You guys have seats? We have some yellow foam shit with duct tape covering most of it.
Ive used a couple different forklifts. Definitely got to get one to suit your environment. You can get 4wd version as well
What about a telehandler for the next buy
Don't buy one from a recycling outfit, it will be the most used machine ever.
Just saw a Toyota roll through the shop with 29,000 hours
Even if you are just using it on the farm can you not still drill a hole in the fork
Can't remember where but some inspector told me if the knee of the fork is worn down bij 10% the load capacity decreases bij 20%. 20% worn down, 40% less capacity (legally) of course you can lift more but it's not really recommended. Not totally sure about this so correct me if I'm wrong. And its a law in Europe btw, not Canada. We have 2 old Nissan's 1.5 and a 4 ton, 14.000 and 500 hours.
Forks are to be scrapped at 10% heel wear. So a drop in lifting capacity is irrelevant.
@@daveclark4028 and that's how it should be. Around here they only look at the hydraulics, if the forks don't lower with a load after a set amount of time they pass. F stupid but cheaper and while working at a farm, common sense is a valuable thing.
That guy did a flip
Also if looking at an off lease forklift i found a new machine was less than 20% more making it purely and intelligence test to go with used. Also if leased or used don’t buy it’s it’s been used in a foundry or cement plant- total destruction on bearings. We have a 5k Toyota 3 stage mast dual fuel
And love it- bought it new approx 5 years ago and other than a battery nothing for repairs- and yes Toyota forklift uses crappy batteries with three year life just like their vehicles :-(.
Probably got used at a Toyota plant, we all had those blue lights to reverse
We have them for forward and reverse and I don't work at Toyota, I think a lot of companies use those lights.
The blue spot lights are pretty much used at most plants now. Maybe one if the best pieces safety equipment bolted on any forklift.
And now we are starting to sell curtain lights for the sides as well.
never buy Crown. They are worst i had to work with yet. Jungheinrich, Still, Linde are great
how do i open this hood?
Hey, can I put that engine in my Toyota truck?
If you're talking pickup truck, you sure can. The 52hp and 120 ftlb of torque may be an issue.
@@alskjflaksjdflakjdf probably more than my 300 k 22re puts out. 🙄
Does the forklift blow cold?
Hey rich head over to banks engineering see what they are doing latest vedio. Hint 64 Chevy truck with a duramax. Dual intakes
Tow rig has to work
Step one
Make sure the seat belt works
Never known a fork driver to wear one, I can guarantee i never did.
Hiya
I drove a Toyota forklift not bad but I am not a Toyota guy
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Drilling a hole is legal
So awesome I have a 3fg10
Lindi folk lifts are quit good
I agree man! Its Linde though
Nobody tell Trudeau that AvE cut holes in his forks a while back.
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Watch your feet, you put it under the forks, ive seen smasched feet from that, it aint pretty
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Cat mitsubishi forklifts I would say are better than Toyota's none of that sas shit and easier too work on and Toyotas are really rattly and break engine mounting bolts
Toyota yard lift or it is nothing
Never buy a used one from a brick yard
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dt466 swap the forklift is next months project
For me the process was:
Does it work: No
Age: 60+ years
Big wheel: yes
In good condition/well maintained: Hell no
Price: $500
Parts readily available: not really
So I bought it. After replacing all the hydraulic lines, making the brakes work, and redoing some of the wiring, it's been great. The only major repairs it's needed in 4 years are an oil pump after that exploded, and a hydraulic pump after it blew the shaft seal and dumped all the hydraulic fluid into the engine. I also had to replace the water pump recently. Well worth it. It just sucks that it's so old that it doesn't have power steering, so it is really hard to drive, even on dirt. But it's dead simple and easy to fix anything, which is what I wanted.
Damn that "Hell no" made me laugh for 2 minutes, my 2 cracked ribs do not thank you !
Just out of curiosity, how much did the repairs amount to ? Have you been able to rebuild anything yourself or had to buy new parts ?
@@crezychameau The oil pump plus the engine bearings it took out was around $200. It was about $250 to get the hydraulic pump rebuilt, and the water pump was $80. Everything in the thing was designed to be easily serviceable so yes I can do pretty much everything myself.
@@Choochinc Wow that's really nice, not too expensive and super cool to be able to do this yourself !
Everything nowadays isn't built like it used to.
I have basically the same thing with Japanese stickers. The stering box recently went out so I'm waiting on the new one rebuilt in Taiwan.
Test the stability system just jack up one of the steering tire (not extremely high like 2-3“) with the key on. Then turn off the key and lower the jack and the tire should be up in the air until you turn back on the key and the forklift will suddenly go back down. Parking brake is required for this.
PEI you can have a hole in your fork for say moving trailers but you can't torch the hole it has to be a cold cut hole like waterjet or something
Swing lock is easy to test. With the truck on jack it up from the year and put a pry bar under one of the tires and articulate one of the wheels up. Turn the truck off and lower it down and you'll notice it's not completely level. Turn the truck on and it should automatically articulate down back to level. That's how you test and make sure that system works.
Hey Rich! Great video. You touched on a lot of points most people overlook. I'd like to add a few footnotes:
I worked on all kinds of forklifts for many years and Toyotas were the best in every measurable way: reliable, easy to work on and get parts for, cheap to run, hold value extremely well, never once did I ever shake my head at how they were designed or dealing with parts availability, which says a lot.
As you said annual lift inspections aren't required for agriculture, so any agricultural use will hurt resale value (sorry Kevin!)
If you want attachments, make SURE they're accounted for on the capacity plate - as the weight and the increased distance it puts the load from the axle centre (load centre) will reduce your lift capacity (sometimes drastically!) If you're adding something, better figure this out if you don't want to tip over.
3-stage masts are the most desirable - if you don't plan on ever lifting too high, a two-stage might be a deal. Quad masts are expensive to fix, so steer clear unless you need to lift that high. Beware - I've seen some people cut masts off one truck and put them on another to resell - if the welds on the axle pivot don't look factory or there's fresh paint there, it may be a cut-and-shut.
Cascade makes a nice kit for checking forks - comes in a box with the gauge and a set of instructions. Check it out. Most chain manufacturers make a gauge of their own but they're all the same - use it properly! Also check the section that sits on the chainwheel as that's where the most wear happens. Stretch is important but also turned pins! All the swage marks on the pins need to line up with each other - if one is turned it has broken loose from the leaf and is in danger of walking out (this usually happens due to rusting or overloading and is a fail).
You mentioned the swing lock cylinder - good eye! There's a plastic plug on it you can pry off and check if an indicator pin has moved, indicating the charge inside has gone out. They are normally closed, electrically unlocked so if it's articulating when the truck is on, and you've checked the pin, you're fine! If there's an electrical problem it usually shows up on the dash. They're not bad to figure out - get the manual set from the dealer, they're extremely well written.
I'm sure there's a ton more to mention - but Kevin has the most desirable model of the most desirable mfr - Toyota. From a completely unbiased opinion (I no longer work in the industry), it'll be a great ownership experience!
Bonus tip: Lift the forks up and lean the mast back, place hardwood blocks under the mast heels and tilt forward - it'll lift the body up several inches so you can block behind the front wheels for servicing underneath or changing tires. Faster and easier than jacking it up!
Excellent summarization, you covered everything needed.I worked on forklifts for 17yrs after 5yrs on h/d trucks. Worked for a Cat forklift dealer 13yrs and a Yale dealer 4yrs. I agree about Toyotas, they get A's in all aspects, fit & finish, reliability, serviceability, quality materials, logical engineering.
Yale is a strong second place.
I have been working with TMHU for years. I currently manage a Toyota parts department. That is the a great lift and TOYOTA has the highest resale value. You can verify that per Ritchie bros auctions.
Gaday ...TMHA down under
I don't need a forklift.....now I want one
You can tow with them
You buy the forklift I'll use it. Lol
If you're going to be using a forklift for anything where safety inspections are happening, for like a personal business where the forklift gets moved around to job sites, don't drill holes in your forks. Use an adapter and swing it onto the fork mast that has a tow eye. or make an adapter that can be chained to the forks. You definitely don't want to have to replace forks unless you absolutely have to.
My absolute favorite forklift was a (probably) 20 year old Linde with the hydrostatic transmission. Had a forward pedal and a reverse pedal (no shifting). 3 tier boom, side shift. It only had a parking brake, the motion system was the braking system so no regular brake pedal, just take you foot off the direction pedal and it begins to stop. I hated it at first. But once I got used to it it was my favorite.
The production forklifts at my work are Lindes, I don't like how they don't creep forwards when you let off the brake and immediately slow down when you left off the gas. The maintenance lifts that I drive are old Doosans, they're decent. I don't drive lift all day every day so that might make a difference.
The heel of the fork is offically allowed to wear 10 %.
My neighbour has had a Toyota forklift with years, theyre indestructible. His has the old 3.0d engine in it.
At my work the forklifts get run 18 to 20 hrs a day 365
The normally about 6500 hrs a year
Airports never stop, even with covid there is still work
been a forklift tech in your area for over 30yrs. Toyota forklifts are the best up tp 10,000lb capacity.The Cadillac. they go the most hrs for the least amount of repair. That forklift there is valued at around 15k. and yes u can drill a hole in the fork. the manufacture has specs on how to do so on there website.
As a forklift tech for Raymond who's owned by toyota. Toyota makes a good lift truck. Good call on your chains. Free lift chains get used 2x as much as main lift chains. Proper lubrication will give them a long life. You got A good truck
Great info. Just want to add something to keep in mind. If you want a lift that will raise a 6000 pound load, you will need a 8000 pound lift capacity fork lift. If you have a lift that says it can raise 6000 pounds, you have to subtract the carriage and fork weight from the lift capacity.
A fellers sure got a nice hat on there, Rich!
Hooked my peepers on it. Mmhmm. Okay.
We have a forklift at work and it has the solid tires on it. We were getting stuck in the snow everywhere in the garden so we got a set of chains. Night and day difference!
I drive one of these every day I love ek
Toyota is THE GOLD STANDARD of forklifts!!! Man they make a nice machine!!
The one i use at work has 3900 hours and only thing wrong was propane valve leak and mass bolt fell out twice.
Been in the forklift business for 27 years. Toyota was the gold standard back then..Much has changed and I would say they make an absolutely sub par propane product. Go with a Hyster or Yale.
Toyota makes forklifts for many brands.
Gold standard for everything they make.
We have a Mitsubishi forklift at work that has about 14,000 hours
I've often thought it would be interesting to see a total engine RPM counter along with the hours.
Give you an idea of if it's spent loads of time idling (which can be worse than being used for some engines), if it's been thrashed or whatever.
I’ve also thought that total engine revolutions or total fuel use would be a better way to judge a vehicle that hours or kilometres.
@@Jaxon-iu6vb Total fuel used would also be a good measure, you're right.
That is coming with the more modern vehicles with telematics, who knows whether that sort of information will be available to second users or be used to swing the price at all.
We only have Toyota forklifts in our fleet. We still have 6FGCU25 models that still run like champs with close to 30,000 hours. They run 24/5 nonstop. Routine maintenance makes these lifts last a lifetime damn near.
Toyota lift trucks are the best on the market bar none, I've been in this industry for over 25 yrs and inspect and drive them everyday on the job and those engines are known to go 15000+ hrs under regular maintenance which is equal, half million kilometres, only one close to Toyota is a Nissan lift truck, or shop has had a few Cat lift trucks, terrible finicky and expensive, yes Toyota any day