Conlang Critic: Poliespo

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  • the poliepisode of conlang critic
    this was a rough one. hope you like it anyway
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  • @hiimemily
    @hiimemily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1705

    The word "banant̂ⱥn2plaĉqlx" looks like someone was typing "banana" and then someone dropped a piano on them.

    • @Sylocat
      @Sylocat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      Maybe that's why they don't like bananas. Bad memories, y'know?

    • @RichConnerGMN
      @RichConnerGMN ปีที่แล้ว +35

      nice pfp

    • @DialecticRed
      @DialecticRed ปีที่แล้ว +100

      The fact that you took the time to input the circumflexes and the / through the a to make this comment is honestly commendable.

    • @Sylocat
      @Sylocat ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@DialecticRed the ComposeKey utility is one of the most useful things ever.

    • @abxyabxy281
      @abxyabxy281 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      LOL

  • @elemenopi9239
    @elemenopi9239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3430

    bruh i can't believe they made polio into a language

  • @boxwater
    @boxwater 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2386

    "Comparing Poliespo to Vötgil is an insult to Vötgil" Is such a powerful phrase.
    i love it

    • @slayerslayer7623
      @slayerslayer7623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      It is a more impactful phrase than my entire life will ever be.

    • @nothingtosay21
      @nothingtosay21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      How the turntables...

    • @NicknotNak
      @NicknotNak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      How the tables are tables?

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NicknotNak TEIBOL

  • @AshtonSnapp
    @AshtonSnapp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1202

    This language can be summed up with one word:
    *nope*

  • @falpsdsqglthnsac
    @falpsdsqglthnsac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2699

    “I literally cannot imagine a language worse than Poliespo.”
    Challenge accepted.

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +726

      I made a script that is literally just diacritics. There is always a bigger fish.

    • @rayelgatubelo
      @rayelgatubelo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +435

      Gonna be hard... Poliespo makes Kay(f)bop(t) look like Toki Pona.

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +282

      I mean, I'd start by making the entire consonant inventory all of the sounds that the IPA considers theoretically pronouncable by humans, but which no current language uses. Then I guess you could use latin characters, but shuffled just so your intuition from any other language is always wrong. I suppose for vowels you'd have to avoid 'a', 'i', and 'o', and maybe also have nasal and aspirated vowels that encode wildly distinct meanings.
      Even then, though, sooner or later someone reading that document is going to realize you're just taking the piss.

    • @HBMmaster
      @HBMmaster  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1722

      if you're trying to make it bad and you succeed and it's bad, that means you did a good job achieving your goal and therefore it isn't bad

    • @falpsdsqglthnsac
      @falpsdsqglthnsac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +523

      Conlang Critic but then, if it isn’t bad, then it failed at its goal, making it bad again

  • @cartermakice3890
    @cartermakice3890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +980

    "make an IAL but only release resources in Esperanto" is literally #416 on the bad conlanging ideas tumblr

    • @elemenopi9239
      @elemenopi9239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      wait you mean that page ISNT a checklist?

    • @Brivalia
      @Brivalia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      @@elemenopi9239 -The guy who made Kay(f)bop(t)

    • @qui9797
      @qui9797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      same with “make a conlang you can only join if you enter an MLM”

    • @nixel1324
      @nixel1324 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@qui9797 Holy shit, what if this conlang is _supposed_ to be bad? What if it really _is_ a joke that people didn't get, and those guys from 1993 really _did_ completely misrepresent what the language was about?

    • @element1192
      @element1192 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nixel1324 No i think it was just an incredibly mentally disturbed person's attempt at creating something

  • @KateGladstone
    @KateGladstone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +912

    It gives the term “_*con*_lang” at least two whole new meanings ...

    • @franzsteiner2341
      @franzsteiner2341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I read this and made a sound in between a laugh and a whimper

    • @Theo-oh3jk
      @Theo-oh3jk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@franzsteiner2341 a lhighnpre?

    • @derpydayha7305
      @derpydayha7305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@franzsteiner2341 this was my response precisely

    • @zonk1
      @zonk1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yike

  • @christinawisdom1128
    @christinawisdom1128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1101

    as a cherokee speaker i actually got mad when it said that it only had 2 native cherokee words...
    I would want to make a cherokee based conlang but i feel like thats almost disrespectful because instead i could just get people to learn cherokee

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Please do make a Cherokee-based conlang, it would be great. But please make it a good one! I am not American and have little knowledge of Native American languages. NA-based conlangs would get conlangers more interested in them. So many conlangs are made by European language speakers and generally copy European languages.

    • @lfocoap4950ajf8
      @lfocoap4950ajf8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      i really wanted to include 40-50% cherokee vocabulary and grammar into a conlang but there's no resources for the language anywhere. please do either, language is such an integral part of culture and we haven't put enough effort in to preserve them

    • @orereocookie6538
      @orereocookie6538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@lfocoap4950ajf8 You can learn about the Cherokee language using an online resource called, "Your Grandmother's Cherokee". There is a really interesting story behind the development of this resource in that it features a dictionary that is capable of forming complete "word-sentences" that are described by Native speakers to resemble the speech patterns of past (and passed) generations, hence, "Your Grandmother's Cherokee".

    • @isaacthecorncob
      @isaacthecorncob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MatthewMcVeagh That's exactly what I set out to do with my conlangs. I have eight sperate conlangs all largely inspired by various native American languages (one that has a bit of Na'vi in it, too). I also have one conlang inspired by Nahuatl and one that is largely inspired by Hawaiian and various other Austronesian and Polynesian languages

    • @yoru900
      @yoru900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Do you know some good resources for learning Cherokee? I'd like to learn it

  • @jordanberndt4157
    @jordanberndt4157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +727

    People who actually have the time to make an entire conlang:
    1. Tenured academics
    2. Wealthy people in need of hobby
    3. Convicts serving a life sentence in prison for murder

    • @nicolasglemot6760
      @nicolasglemot6760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @haven adventurer This makes it even sadder. The person who made this not only had a mind and/or life fucked up enough to get them to the point of killing innocent people, but they also made it knowing they were gonna die (and litterally waiting for it), probably as an attempt to leave some kind of legacy behind them...And even then it's as bad as it could possibly be.

    • @i_teleported_bread7404
      @i_teleported_bread7404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jokes on you, I'm poor as dirt, have no job, and am not as of now on death row.

    • @Melecie
      @Melecie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      4. Writers and worldbuilders

    • @cubixthree3495
      @cubixthree3495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@i_teleported_bread7404 Congratulations!

    • @Pandadude-eg9li
      @Pandadude-eg9li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      4 Jack Eisenmann

  • @esbendit
    @esbendit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1096

    Any hypothetical conlang worse than poliespo is likely made specifically to be bad, in which case it would be an astounding success, and thus still better than poliespo.

    • @rayelgatubelo
      @rayelgatubelo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Poliespo makes Kay(f)bop(t) look like Toki Pona in comparison.

    • @nicolasglemot6760
      @nicolasglemot6760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@rayelgatubelo Well, to be fair, Kay(f)bop(t) is an amazing conlang.

    • @Theo-oh3jk
      @Theo-oh3jk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@rayelgatubelo I dunno. Kay(f)bop(t) isn't actually really speakable. Theoretically, Poliespo is speakable, if really garbled. Kay(f)bop(t) is structurally, fundamentally, meant to be impractical to the point of failure.

    • @MisterHunterWolf
      @MisterHunterWolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Don't try to be good at being bad, be bad at being good.

    • @p.g.v.3765
      @p.g.v.3765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Theo-oh3jk and it archives its goals better than most other conlangs out there

  • @sowelichemlatu1789
    @sowelichemlatu1789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1795

    imagine being murdered by a bad conlanger

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      What a way to go

    • @slamwall9057
      @slamwall9057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Imagine murdering a bad conlang

    • @rickelvi
      @rickelvi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did

    • @user-nd7ts7bp6g
      @user-nd7ts7bp6g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Imagine having to put a bad conlanger on the most wanted list

    • @0hate9
      @0hate9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      I feel like, if you're going to be murdered by a conlanger, it's more likely that they're a bad one

  • @gayvideos3808
    @gayvideos3808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    I'm Cherokee and this language is such a disgusting trainwreck that this was the only conlang critic that made me stop watching.

    • @gayvideos3808
      @gayvideos3808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Ok I stopped at 5:00 but then i resumed. I definitely couldn't watch it all in one sitting

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@gayvideos3808 Me neither.

  • @ganymedeanoutlaw
    @ganymedeanoutlaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +685

    "You've got to commit to your bad decisions" You know, it sounds like this guy doesn't have a problem with committing things.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Eyyy

    • @NicknotNak
      @NicknotNak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Apparently not where it matters though

    • @maxvogt3515
      @maxvogt3515 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apparently commuting to them 3 times over

    • @zhaleyleitnib5150
      @zhaleyleitnib5150 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he was innocent and framed. there was never any evidence he even killed those people. he is even up to retrial now since his convictions were overturned.

  • @user-tl8rk6pb6k
    @user-tl8rk6pb6k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Billy: adds a dozen of new sounds to accommodate the Cherokee vocabulary
    Also Billy: adds only 2 words from Cherokee

    • @shmoobalizer
      @shmoobalizer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      and neither of them use the new sounds lmao

    • @numburger
      @numburger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@shmoobalizer They're special

  • @joeyjojo6148
    @joeyjojo6148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1565

    Thanks for the shoutout! I just want to assure everyone that no matter how bad the document looked from the quick glimpses jan Misali showed, it's far worse. He didn't even get into Billy's claims of how Zamenhof ripped off Cherokee, or the stuff about psychics.

    • @Ptaku93
      @Ptaku93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      I need to know the stuff about psychics, please!!

    • @joeyjojo6148
      @joeyjojo6148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +363

      @@Ptaku93 He went to a psychic who told him that Poliespo would be widely used in the field of technology and after the human race united. Then because Esperanto has the preposition 'po' and Poliespo can be shortened as 'po,' that's proof that the spirit of Sequoyah influenced them both.

    • @W4t3rf1r3
      @W4t3rf1r3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Vi estas multe pli kuraĝa ol mi.

    • @danieldelizaur435
      @danieldelizaur435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Can someone give me a link to that document?

    • @nutritionalyeast7978
      @nutritionalyeast7978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I'm keen for the document too, i've searched a while for it on the internet and only gotten rephrasings of the wikipedia page and dead links

  • @andremassabki6034
    @andremassabki6034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    Gee, we all lived to witness Vötgil's redemption

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Vötgil redemption arc?

    • @yerdasellsavon9232
      @yerdasellsavon9232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      1st of Feb is a happy day in the vötgil community

    • @IceCenders
      @IceCenders ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Like when the big baddie of season 1 becomes the antihero of season 3 when a much, much tougher enemy comes along.

  • @gayvideos3808
    @gayvideos3808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    "It's like it was specifically designed with me specifically in mind, with the intention of using the Latin alphabet in a way that's as disgusting as possible to me personally"

    • @gayvideos3808
      @gayvideos3808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      Actually someone should do that: watch the entire series, take notes of all the features he grimaces at, and make a conlang whose sole purpose is to be mitch's personal hell

    • @CraftQueenJr
      @CraftQueenJr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pactura how has no one done this?

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@gayvideos3808 a helllang specifically designed for jan Misali, huh? I'm in.

    • @EnriqueLaberintico
      @EnriqueLaberintico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@gayvideos3808 The Bad Conlang. It's like The Bad Place but in language form.

    • @Pandadude-eg9li
      @Pandadude-eg9li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Plot twist: He looks at it and decides that it isn't bad because it succeeded in being insulting to him, and the Conlanger did a good job with his insult.

  • @bloodypommelstudios7144
    @bloodypommelstudios7144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    Haven't even got in to the language and we find out it's a pyramid scheme and the creator is on death row. I can tell this is going to be special!

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Is he still on death row or is he dead now?

    • @Mmmm1ch43l
      @Mmmm1ch43l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Anonymous-df8it still there apparently

    • @chrisamies2141
      @chrisamies2141 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      so he's a con (convict), a conman and a conlanger?

    • @bloodypommelstudios7144
      @bloodypommelstudios7144 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@chrisamies2141 How the hell didn't I think of that!

  • @morganhopkins204
    @morganhopkins204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    Are you sure this isn't why he's on death row?

  • @mi8628
    @mi8628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    This video makes me want to try to make a good IAL, but it also makes me want to try to make a language worse than Poliespo.
    Neither of these goals are achievable.

    • @laprankster3264
      @laprankster3264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      The first goal could be achievable with a sound inventory something like this /p~b/ /t/ /k/ /s/ /t͡ʃ~ʃ/ /x~h/ /m/ /n~ɲ/ /v~w/ /l~r/ /j/ /i/ /u~ɯ/ /e~ɛ/ /o~ɔ/ /a~ɑ/, an analytic (though not necessarily isolating) grammar, an SVO or SOV word order, and vocabulary from a variety of sources.

    • @ApriiSR
      @ApriiSR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@laprankster3264 so basically toki pona

    • @laprankster3264
      @laprankster3264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@ApriiSR kind of, but I don’t think 123 words would be enough. I personally prefer to be able to express complex concepts without having to create a bunch of complex phrases in every sentence.

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@laprankster3264 The vocabulary part is what I find most difficult. Assuming you're looking for more than just relying on Latin roots.

    • @ApriiSR
      @ApriiSR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@laprankster3264 toki pona could use a little more expansion, maybe a good way to make subordinate clauses. The vocabulary could use expansion, but it doesn't need as much as you'd think.

  • @fernandobanda5734
    @fernandobanda5734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    On one hand, this is not too far from someone's first try at conlanging. On the other hand, if you use "2" and some letters on top of others, we can't be friends.

    • @lawrencecalablaster568
      @lawrencecalablaster568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I was going to be like “but 2 can represent ء in Arabic” but that’s only in online romanizations so never mind.

    • @heckoff7904
      @heckoff7904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@lawrencecalablaster568not to necro but 7 is a glottal stop in Squamish i believe.

  • @Mercure250
    @Mercure250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Basically, this is auxlang gore

    • @thrownstair
      @thrownstair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s written snuff

  • @devonoknabo2582
    @devonoknabo2582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Poliespo: you have weird hats
    Esperanto: I suppose you think that's cute what it makes you is a fraud

    • @MeNowDealWIthIt
      @MeNowDealWIthIt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Kay(f)bop(t): Did somebody say hats?

    • @devonoknabo2582
      @devonoknabo2582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MeNowDealWIthIt lol

    • @ahumanistpotato0501
      @ahumanistpotato0501 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Is that a #NewRadioShows reference?

    • @maximilianwarren8296
      @maximilianwarren8296 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeNowDealWIthIt r/BeatMeToIt

    • @WhizzKid2012
      @WhizzKid2012 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But poliespo has more letters with hats,.

  • @jsgsevsik9492
    @jsgsevsik9492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +911

    This episode is the funniest thing Ive seen in a long time

    • @pikapuffin368
      @pikapuffin368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I just love how savage he gets with this one. This wasn’t a review - this was an execution with a flourish.

    • @driveasandwich6734
      @driveasandwich6734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He turned himself into a terrible language, funniest shit I've ever seen!

    • @sunwukong6897
      @sunwukong6897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That “insult to Vötgil” comment was gold

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I actually found it depressing and had to stop halfway through and take it up again later.

    • @yerdasellsavon9232
      @yerdasellsavon9232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Gnomicality I like to think they died for this

  • @theneongoomba
    @theneongoomba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    Wait, so Poliespo is a pyramid sceme?

    • @youmukonpaku3168
      @youmukonpaku3168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      actually I think it's a trapezoid scheme.

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      And that isn't even the fourth-worst thing about it.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youmukonpaku3168 a complicated variant of hangman?

  • @Sylocat
    @Sylocat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    When a conlang is a pyramid scheme and that's not even the worst thing about it, you know you're dealing with something truly special.

  • @enuma-elise
    @enuma-elise 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Update on Waldon’s crimes:
    As of January 3, 2023, Waldon’s conviction and death sentence have been overturned. The justification is that Waldon was not given adequate representation. Despite clearly being mentally unwell, Waldon was allowed to defend himself in court, and appeared not to understand the charges brought against him. He is currently awaiting a retrial.

  • @rubbedibubb5017
    @rubbedibubb5017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    Wait. Sequoyah was also the name of the guy who created the cherokee syllabary. He did a better job than this guy, and he didn’t even know how to read any script besides his own syllabary. He was just inspired by the shapes of latin letters.

    • @kohakuaiko
      @kohakuaiko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yep.

    • @jacobscrackers98
      @jacobscrackers98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The shapes of the letters have little to no connection to other scripts that look similar to it, therefore by jan Misali's standards is a bad script.

    • @gwest3644
      @gwest3644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@jacobscrackers98 But it isn’t meant to be a Latin orthography, just an entirely new script.

    • @Ealsante
      @Ealsante 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Sequoyah didn't just 'do a better job' than this murdering fuckhead. Sequoyah is a big damn hero, and just hearing Waldon appropriate his name is infuriating.

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@jacobscrackers98 The key is that the Cherokee syllabary is _based on_ the Latin alphabet, while Poliespo simply uses the Latin alphabet itself. Using "Ꮞ" for /se/ is far more sensible than using "2" for /ə̃/.

  • @rayelgatubelo
    @rayelgatubelo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Poliespo sounds like the name of a Pokémon

    • @fanOmry
      @fanOmry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The one good thing that can be said about it..

    • @Theo-oh3jk
      @Theo-oh3jk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      A metal class pokemon that looks like a rolly-poly bus.

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the first time I read the conlang name, I read it in a Polish/Russian/Slavic accent

    • @juliaanimates9765
      @juliaanimates9765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      “Poliespo! I choose you!”

    • @icarusmarioFAN
      @icarusmarioFAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It sounds like a bootleg evolution for Poliwhirl

  • @litete2512
    @litete2512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    A conlang made by a repeat killer which is also a pyramid scheme and a poor attempt at incorporating Cherokee into the most established conlang.
    Best conlang of all time.

  • @solarplayza2614
    @solarplayza2614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Vötgil: exists
    Poliespo: sir im gonna have to take your “worst conlang” license, hand it over

  • @nerdsimulator9646
    @nerdsimulator9646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    **nasal schwa is represented with a 2**

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      It feels like kay(f)bop(t), but the knowledge that this is in a serious, unironic context makes me sick

  • @AdrianHereToHelp
    @AdrianHereToHelp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    The fact that he decided it was very important to use the Cherokee word for peace after committing multiple literal murders...

  • @2Cerealbox
    @2Cerealbox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    To be fair, this is probably how I would entertain myself in prison, too.

    • @recurse
      @recurse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Attempting to get rich by creating the worst conlang/pyramid scheme ever made?

    • @IM2awsme
      @IM2awsme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sounds pretty solid to me. Pyramid schemes are all about attracting stupid people who want to prove their smart. It's a very sociopathic profession. Great way to pass the time, imagination getting a letter every couple of days full of money, and with a slight grin you send them back a thank you card and a couple of pamphlets to spread the word. Maybe even a membership certificate to hang on the wall to show their guests how involved they are.

  • @robdoghd
    @robdoghd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    "episode thirty-one" gave me whiplash it's like feel old yet conlang critic premiered 45 years ago today

    • @robdoghd
      @robdoghd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      also 1:25 screams pyramid scheme no?

  • @masicbemester
    @masicbemester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    1:46 on death row for violent crimes and of course, for Poliespo, which is the most heinous crime in existence.

    • @camwoodstock
      @camwoodstock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Honestly, if I was a lawyer, and the list of things my client did was "make Poliespo", I'd probably just have him turned in immediately.

    • @youmukonpaku3168
      @youmukonpaku3168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "Your honor, in light of the circumstances, I am entering a plea of "Super Guilty" on behalf of my client, with hopes of finding a sentence greater than capital punishment."

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@camwoodstock If I was the executioner, I would make sure that his death is as slow, painful and drawn out as possible.

    • @pcarrierorange
      @pcarrierorange ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youmukonpaku3168
      “Myself and the jury will be killing ourselves shortly. You’re welcome to join in, your Honour.”

    • @Mordecrox
      @Mordecrox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@youmukonpaku3168"your honor, Poliespo."
      *bam* DEATH

  • @AuntBibby
    @AuntBibby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    okay but what if you made a conlang where every word was a dirty word from an already existing naturally-evolved language

    • @kohakuaiko
      @kohakuaiko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      That would be hilarious and wildly NSFW.

    • @Painocus
      @Painocus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      That's just Northern-Norwegian.
      (This joke is for you, the one Norwegian person who stumble upon this comment.)

    • @muteto2686
      @muteto2686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      And also where all the word's meanings are either exactly the opposite of or completely unrelated to their curse word origins

    • @48917032
      @48917032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Weeelll... the Hyperion trilogy has a character who temporarily loses nearly his entire vocabulary from a stroke...except for a few dirty words. So he has to communicate entirely by swearing for some time.

    • @eac-ox2ly
      @eac-ox2ly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@48917032 Holy shit, that sounds cool af

  • @deryckchan
    @deryckchan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Let the affixes built to sc--
    Nevermind, this is utterly impenetrable. Thanks jan misali for introducing us to a conlang that we shouldn't bother learning anymore about.

  • @kittykat5090
    @kittykat5090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    this conlang, like the creator, is an absolute mess

    • @kittykat5090
      @kittykat5090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      totally forgot i commented this and holy crap this got so many likes

    • @etruscanetwork
      @etruscanetwork ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kittykat5090 lol

  • @memelordmarcus
    @memelordmarcus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The distance from poliespo below vötgil is near the same size as the distance from vötgil below toki pona.

  • @KoBo33451
    @KoBo33451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Oh, wow. This...I mean...how does this even happen? How does something like this even see the light of day?
    I didn't know conlangs could get that bad, and I've seen a lot of them. Hell, I've MADE a lot of them.
    Just, wow.

    • @OrangeC7
      @OrangeC7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Perhaps this person was... overconfident...?

    • @verdakorako4599
      @verdakorako4599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Esperantists sometimes make esperanto derived con-langs for fun and most are crap and never intended to see the the light of day.

    • @KoBo33451
      @KoBo33451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@verdakorako4599 I'm not saying I've never done similar things like, for example, taken the correlative chart and dropped it into my conlang; I'm just saying that I've made less of a mess doing it.
      Oh well. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @youtubeaccount6564
    @youtubeaccount6564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Well, Oklahoma Cherokee is tonal and doesn’t write tones using the Cherokee syllabary. so Billy Ray was at least doing something similar to Cherokee.

    • @youtubeaccount6564
      @youtubeaccount6564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Oh yeah (I’m commenting as I watch) the use of the suffix -tsu (pronounced more like chu) as a question marker is wild as fuck because that is the suffix used most often to describe rhetorical questions. The most common interrogative suffix is -s, although it still kind of works???
      Another wild as fuck thing: the closest approximation to a Cherokee definite article is literally na. The use of a suffixed article was totally constructed, it’s not even common across continental American native languages.

  • @MegaDrvo
    @MegaDrvo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    you could make a perfect ARG / spooky number station by just looping every time jan voices out the letters in a conlang.

    • @Zawmbbeh
      @Zawmbbeh ปีที่แล้ว +4

      or you could make a radio drama where some weird green slob thwacks onto the floor and in jan Misali’s great disgust is the pronunciation of the epsilon letter

  • @jasmijnisme
    @jasmijnisme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    > there are dozens of amateur creations worse than Vötgil, but most of those have never been seen by anyone but their creators
    I feel so attacked right now :P

  • @swaree
    @swaree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    Last time I was this early, Mitch was roasting vötgil
    Edit: oh so apparently this is worse than vötgil

  • @1papaya2papaya
    @1papaya2papaya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    What if poliepso was intentionally made as a form of torture?

  • @ursulakushner6760
    @ursulakushner6760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Oh yes, “gdz” is definitely a great consonant for a language that wants to be quick to communicate in!

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In all seriousness though, "kts" might be the building up of pressure at both the velum and teeth, then releasing at the same time to form a "kt" plosive. You then turn it into an affricate, and same for "gdz"

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

  • @g4_61
    @g4_61 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Labio-labial consonants aren’t real; they can’t hurt you.
    Labio-labial consonants:

    • @davinchristino
      @davinchristino ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can't wait for alveo-alveolar and trilabial consonants

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Now I am thinking of phonemes that can only be produced whilst performing cunnilingus!

    • @MM-eq1mr
      @MM-eq1mr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@DrWhomhalf the conlang community couldn't make them by default

  • @msbmeseb
    @msbmeseb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    bruh imagine being hyped about a new conlang critic video and it being the conlang version of a personified cheap-o esperanto having a stroke.

  • @plantelo
    @plantelo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "I literally cannot imagine how a conlang could be hypothetically worse than this" sounds like hyperbole out of context. With context...

  • @julester
    @julester 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    it was great to be a part of such a cool video! dreams of our generation in poliespo when

  • @andrew-ub4ku
    @andrew-ub4ku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    11:07 it is amazing that "kat2l" is a thing that exists in a language, even though that language is this one, the fact that there is a chart about language with a box dedicated to "kat2l" is awesome.

  • @Big_Man_Enjoyer
    @Big_Man_Enjoyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    “I cannot imagine a conlang worse than PoliEspo”
    Me: *quietly hides my currently shitty conlang in the corner*
    I want to revise it but please don’t go looking for it ;;

    • @ThinkAboutVic
      @ThinkAboutVic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I bet you didn’t use a 2 for the nasal schwa.

  • @purpleisdebeste
    @purpleisdebeste 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The mspaint looks like Poliespo has been clawed into wood by a madman

  • @blunije
    @blunije 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You know, Poliespo is good to know OF. It shows me no matter what I do, it's easily still better than an official conlang. Probably the best thing I've done is changing English orthography, which isn't even a conlang, just a fix of what's already there. So this makes me feel good!

  • @NXTangl
    @NXTangl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Having an "emphatically ungendered" noun form would rock for conlangs designed with nonbinary identities in mind, and you would indeed mostly use those forms for humans.
    I doubt that's what the guy had in mind, though.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Turkish doesn't have grammatical gender.

    • @sponge1234ify
      @sponge1234ify ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ Having an "emphatically ungendered" gender is not quite the same as no gender/noun class system

  • @__a_4444
    @__a_4444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    HE'S BACK
    Last year I watched your entire videography at approximately 3am for about a week and a half straight.
    I proudly continue that tradition now

  • @surgeland9084
    @surgeland9084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    On a side note, as bad as this conlang is, the creator's conviction is also very controversial with many people calling for it to be overturned. Add in a lot of systemic factors and there is a good chance that whoever committed the killings is still out there. The con-job is real and indefensible, though.

  • @edsidfug207
    @edsidfug207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Polysynthetic Esperanto, best summary of this messy conlang

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "Polysynthetic Esperanto" doesn't sound like a terrible premise.

    • @edsidfug207
      @edsidfug207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@fernandobanda5734 yes it does

    • @elephant3109
      @elephant3109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it was nice to have a polysynthetic esperanto, but this is just awful
      (also, isnt esperanto already polysynthetic?)

  • @OmnipotentEntity
    @OmnipotentEntity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    For the record, the only way I know of to typeset the overlapping letters in a modern context is to use latex, the commands "v\makebox[-5pt]{t}" seems to function correctly for the eth, and "p\makebox[-8pt]{w}" for the weird ass pw sound. They do look absolutely horrible.

  • @CortexExists
    @CortexExists 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    You can't just keep uploading on the 31st every month in 2020

    • @noahegler9131
      @noahegler9131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I'm looking foward to the episode he will release on the 31st of February

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    (6:30) A diacritical mark over a miniscule letter with an ascender is something I rarely find pleasing. Neither does other people either because miniscule Ť is ť, looks like an apostrophe, but isn't. But I do prefer diacritics over digraphs, that is I like š/ś/ş over sh.

  • @TheSpooniest
    @TheSpooniest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In the interest of keeping information up-to-date, it is perhaps worth noting that Billy Ray Waldon's conviction and death sentence were overturned in January 2023, partly on technicalities in the previous proceedings and partly because of his own "delusional" self-representation in court. He is currently awaiting a new trial. This does nothing to inspire confidence in Poliespo itself, of course, but the story still isn't over.

  • @annalee2051
    @annalee2051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Review the Minecraft enchantment table language next

    • @SunroseStudios
      @SunroseStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      not a language

    • @totallynotjeff7748
      @totallynotjeff7748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@SunroseStudios prove it.

    • @annalee2051
      @annalee2051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@SunroseStudios lies

    • @memelordmarcus
      @memelordmarcus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SunroseStudios woooooooooooooooooosh

    • @memelordmarcus
      @memelordmarcus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@reidmartin6209 people need to learn when they don't get the joke, so no.

  • @calculovo4219
    @calculovo4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hey, so i wanted to find this video, but i forgot the name, so i google "that one language made by a murderer conlang critic"
    This was the second result
    The first result was zeze

  • @Oi-fo1wt
    @Oi-fo1wt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Vötgil is to Poliespo as the star wars prequels are to the Disney movies

    • @GlaceonStudios
      @GlaceonStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Disney's movies are fine, except for TRoS. Just terrible.

    • @sarcomeresarecool
      @sarcomeresarecool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hey, at the very least you have to agree that the Disney movies did do what they were meant to, i.e. make Disney money. Poliespo's goal accomplishment, on the other hand...

  • @ja-vishaara
    @ja-vishaara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like how they publish their work in Esperanto so that, when Poliespo fails to bring your point across, you can just fall back on Esperanto.

  • @dimethylhydra4095
    @dimethylhydra4095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    there's a bit of irony to one of the only borrowed roots meaning "peace"

  • @ataraxia7439
    @ataraxia7439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like the idea of a conlang that serves as a stepping stone towards more endangered languages, idk if it would just be easier to bite the bullet and learn the languages themselves though.

  • @Pandadude-eg9li
    @Pandadude-eg9li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I wish the guy who made Thandian still had the document so you could review it.

    • @Thomaas551
      @Thomaas551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Biblaridion

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thomaas551 Submit it to Conlang Critic, please!

    • @CompactStar
      @CompactStar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Biblaridion once joked that Conlang Critic would do it for episode 99

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is better bc atleast thandian wasn’t an auxlang

    • @Designed1
      @Designed1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thandian doesn't use the letter x or the number 2 as a vowel so it's already better

  • @gryphonavocatio
    @gryphonavocatio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've watched a few of these videos as I've been getting back into conlanging, and my biggest suggestion is that you should pronounce the consonants in your consonant charts *between* vowels. It makes it easier to hear the consonants.....and it helps when somebody seems to think that nasalized preaspiration is a good thing.

  • @IchisePoland
    @IchisePoland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Poliespo is literally The Room of conlanging.

    • @bongle3726
      @bongle3726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Votgil is the room and Poliespo is a snuff film

  • @seraaron
    @seraaron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At 8:22 to be fair, some Arabic speakers use numbers to transliterate too:
    2 - ء
    3 - ع
    5 - خ
    6 - ط
    7 - ح
    8 - ق
    (e.g. Bidde aru7 3lsou8 hal2, bidik teeji ma3i? = بدي أروح على السوق هلا, بدك تيجي معي؟)
    Admittedly it's clsr to a txt speech simulacrum frm the early 2000's, but still, it's functional; and as long as you separate your actual numbers with spaces between words then it's pretty contextually clear which are meant to be read as letters and which should be read as numbers. That said, this is faaar more sophisticated than Poliespo's singular number replacement. Poliespo really does seem like the creator just threw everything into this language. Reminds me of the Biblaridion video about 'How not to make a language'.

    • @HBMmaster
      @HBMmaster  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      that's in the interest of approximating another script in an ascii compatible way. using because it looks like a nose isn't that.

  • @razielhamalakh9813
    @razielhamalakh9813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I fully expected Anthony McCarthy to show up and defend Poliespo.

  • @lyricjones555
    @lyricjones555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    dude you're the only channel I'll watch as soon as a video is put out I LOVE this series thank you for what you do

  • @Biospark88
    @Biospark88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So you're telling me someone made Malbolge as an auxlang? I'm a bit excited.

  • @dorktriogamer2865
    @dorktriogamer2865 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Violence warning
    "I feel it necessary to mention something so violence warning". What could possibly be that bad, is it such a bad language it hurt somebody? "The creator is on death row for violent crimes". EXFUCKING CUSE ME. "Including three murders" HEY THAT SENTENCE COULDVE STOPPED AT THE FIRST STATEMENT FROM 1 TO 100 TO 200 HOLY SHIT.

  • @debblez
    @debblez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “The inventor went on his murder spree before making the language”
    *5 seconds later*
    gqbwhdvznckrbtpt

  • @SsVoyage1892
    @SsVoyage1892 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    poliespo literally sounds like a medicine with a 2 minute long commercial listing all the consequences of taking poliespo

  • @yojot3pi
    @yojot3pi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When I saw the name, I thought it was a western Germanic lang designed to outsmart the police. Lol I like argots and anti-languages too much

    • @melvinshaw7574
      @melvinshaw7574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Polari band rise!

    • @ArmyMan3241
      @ArmyMan3241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought it's something like that or was some kind of language to out smart and piss off cops. especially when they don't know what some kid on crack is say twerking down the block yelling as loud as possible to piss off the neighborhood at 1 in the morning.

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anti-language?

  • @alexschott9567
    @alexschott9567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The scan being slanted certainly doesn't help with the ugliness of the text

  • @oh_tassos
    @oh_tassos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    w as a vowel works alright, its done in welsh and in greeklish (greek with the latin alphabet, as perceived by the younger generation)

  • @meryldoll9452
    @meryldoll9452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Is that "Dreams of our Generation" in Toki Pona? I love it

  • @memelordmarcus
    @memelordmarcus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I never thought I'd see the day something would be worse than votgil.

    • @pinballconejo
      @pinballconejo ปีที่แล้ว

      *Vötgil

    • @greenkitty1
      @greenkitty1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pinballconejo*Waggle

  • @quaternaryyy
    @quaternaryyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thanks for all the work put in to captions 😀
    im not hard of hearing but it really helps me to read along !!

  • @alsy6813
    @alsy6813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It reminded me about the first writing system I tried to create in the 4th grade.
    I was trying to be original as hell, so I decided to make a box, add in some lines in there, choose a few lines for each letter (of my native Russian language) and call it a new language. Different letters could be written with almost the same lines, and it was impossible to say in which order the letters were or what they were at all.
    I don't remember it well, but I could have a letter "|_" m, "_|" s and "|_|" a, and then get a word "|_|" and wonder, was it just "a"? Maybe "sa"? "As"? "Mas"? Maybe, there were a couple of as? It could even be something like "masam"! I never know!
    And I knew that I was not able to read this thing, what was my explanation? "People who knew the language would just remember the way each word look and read them easily". And I was so proud of this clever invention!
    So, yeah. I don't know about a whole language, but I am just sure that I am a creator of one of the worst writing systems
    (He used 2 as a letter, i placed ь in the box because I had no more ideas of how to write letters, I ran out of lines. It was placed in the right upper corner. No other letters had a similar shape. I remember it so damn well.
    And oh, you know what this letter do in Russian? It indicates that the consonants before it is palatalized. It played the same role in script. Except, there was no way to say which letter goes before ь, so in a word with this sign one or more letters was meant to be read soft)

  • @tungstencarbide4713
    @tungstencarbide4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think "pwtro" has the same energy has "humxn"

  • @l3ftward
    @l3ftward ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i was about to fall asleep and then i heard
    "he is on death row for violent crimes"
    way to wake me up

  • @0Aquamelon
    @0Aquamelon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Me in the beginning: Worse than Votgil? How??
    Me at the end: oh...

  • @ArturoStojanoff
    @ArturoStojanoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nasal pre-aspiration is actually something that exists in my variety of Spanish. I’ve actually found myself doing it and was like wtf??? In many Spanish dialects coda /s/ gets debuccalized into a sort of /h/, and in my variety (Rioplatense) it occurs pretty much only before consonants. But some Spanish words have an /nsC/ consonant cluster in them, like “instrumento”. In these cases we sometimes aspirate the /s/ but keep the nasality of the /n/ and have a pre-aspirated /t/.

  • @4eyedphatguys
    @4eyedphatguys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You should try to set up an interview with Sequoyah to get all the missing details and explanations of the language! That would probably be really interesting!

  • @b_atanassov
    @b_atanassov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All things considered, the only thing I like in this language is the word banant̂ⱥn2plaĉqlx.

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    (8:30) Interestingly, Squamish is using digit 7 in their orthography, which represents /ʔ/. It was meant to be written as ʔ, but due to limited accessibility, if was replaced with 7.
    Another example is some romanisations of Arabic, that uses digit 3, which represents /ʕ/, a sound that again has no Latin letter, so a digit was chosen. 3 was chosen because it looks like the mirror of the letter it represents: ع

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And I suspect there are other examples too, especially on typewriters.
      It's not such a bad idea.

    • @isaacthecorncob
      @isaacthecorncob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MatthewMcVeagh I believe there's a few other NA languages that use at least one number in their orthography. I'm not certain about that, though

    • @MatthewMcVeagh
      @MatthewMcVeagh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaacthecorncob Since I saw this video I've been reminded of Sequoyah's Cherokee syllabary, which Billy must have been familiar with. Besides letters from the the Latin, Cyrillic, Greek etc. alphabets he also used some numeral symbols. I bet that's where Billy got the idea from to use them in Poliespo, he'd have seen it as 'quite Cherokee'.

    • @interbeamproductions
      @interbeamproductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At least it's not because it's a nose.

  • @aspen_the_great
    @aspen_the_great 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I see conlang critic, I click

  • @YaboiFoon
    @YaboiFoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Finally some good f-ing notifications

  • @pajarothebird9842
    @pajarothebird9842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the banana sentence killed me lmaooo, looks like i tried to type the word banana with my forehead

  • @official-obama
    @official-obama ปีที่แล้ว +3

    oh, i had a scrapped conlang
    it had stroke order, it had like 4 basic shapes, simply just to chisel in with a 2-sided tool. it was a plus side, and a square side, and to make the p and r shapes, you had to use the edge of the plus side. it had the h in hue, and the vowels somehow, in my 5yo brain, were yelling faces, the schwa was somehow on a table, and the w symbol was two x shapes next to eachother, because it made a w shape. i also had regular words, like ho, 2 cross shapes on top of eachother, to make a HOle shape. it also meant santa. why? i have no idea. i didn't make any grammar whatsoever, before i went "this is dumb" and scrapped it.

  • @actuallyasriel
    @actuallyasriel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A whole lot was going through my head during the consonant inventory and none of it was the consonant inventory!!

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    @j8kethewizz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In this episode of conlang critic, Jan Misali and Votgil form an uneasy alliance to topple a much larger threat

  • @gayvideos3808
    @gayvideos3808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:22 Well at least that's not a completely novel thing. The number 3 is used for the voiced pharyngeal fricative in some arabic transliterations, and there are multiple native american languages that use 3 or 7. 3 is used for /θ/ in arapaho, and 7 is used for the glottal stop in squamish, and sometimes in mohawk

    • @HBMmaster
      @HBMmaster  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      3 as a consonant comes from ع, and 7 is from ʔ. both of these are more sensible than 2 being derived from a nose

    • @angelodc1652
      @angelodc1652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HBMmaster N I Sekvo used up the rest of the alphabet. What else was he supposed to use (Without diacritics because like you said, it deserves its own letter)