Crazy Linguistic Theories (ft. Lichen, Babelingua, and Agma Schwa)

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  • In this video I talk about some crazy linguistic theories. Thanks to Lichen the Fictioneer for helping me with research, and to him, Babelingua, and Agma Schwa for contributing their lovely voices.
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  • @SnowAngel10329
    @SnowAngel10329 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    edo nyland is so real like, basques walked so the alpidoid macrogroup could run

  • @justlanguages
    @justlanguages ปีที่แล้ว +742

    If we are talking about crazy language-related people, then I have one more to the collection. There is a Polish guy called Benon Szałek, a self-proclaimed “heuristics specialist”, who has published at least a dozen of books describing how every language is related to either Tamil or Japanese, and saying that everything comes from now-nonexistent Dravidian empire in Central Asia. He even claims to have undeciphered the Linear A, Indus Valley and Rongorongo scripts, all of which of course depict a Dravidian language, because how can they not. I’m currently working on a video about him myself, because that guy genuinely caught me off guard when I was looking through the university library linguistic section.

    • @EriniusT
      @EriniusT ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Does Japanese come from the Dravidian Empire too?

    • @justlanguages
      @justlanguages ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@EriniusT ofc it does, everything comes from the dravidian empire.

    • @vaiyt
      @vaiyt ปีที่แล้ว

      Linguistics are a fertile ground for kookery, because the close connection between language and nationalism works as a strong incentive to make up shit.

    • @justlanguages
      @justlanguages ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@vaiyt and once you become an academic with a credible background, you can start making shit up and noone will dare to deny or challenge it🙃

    • @danzoom
      @danzoom ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@justlanguages except other academics, of course

  • @mollof7893
    @mollof7893 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    Considering the Finno-Korean Hyper War, which without a doubt happend, Finnish being Proto-World appear to be highly sensical, which is why I choose to believe in it.

    • @GusThePrankster
      @GusThePrankster ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Based reference

    • @zahra9890
      @zahra9890 ปีที่แล้ว

      finno-korean war?????how

    • @alexandruianu8432
      @alexandruianu8432 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@zahra9890 4chan meme based on ridiculous hyperborean ideas + advanced ancients, but taken a few universes farther.

    • @roseCatcher_
      @roseCatcher_ ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What rabbit hole did I fall into 😭

    • @aurin_komak
      @aurin_komak ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@roseCatcher_ the best one

  • @hya2in8
    @hya2in8 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    I like the part where nyland couldn't deal with chinese because it was the only tonal language he bothered with

    • @76rjackson
      @76rjackson ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He'd lose his mind, then, with Yoruba and the other tonal languages from Africa.

  • @thomasrdiehl
    @thomasrdiehl ปีที่แล้ว +283

    "Oh look, something interesting with Basque"
    "Every language is fake!"
    Well, that escalated quickly.

  • @jjaan
    @jjaan ปีที่แล้ว +369

    My personal theory is that the Basque-Icelandic pidgin was an original language that separated into Basque and all Germanic languages, which evolved backwards for a small period of time

    • @toranshaw4029
      @toranshaw4029 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Though there is a wild theory that the people who migrated to the Baseque region were some of the survivors from Atlantis.

    • @nsawatchlistbait289
      @nsawatchlistbait289 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basque is agglutinative and Germanic languages are trans fusional, how could that be if your theory is to be true?

    • @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit
      @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nsawatchlistbait289 time shenanigans.

    • @anon3336
      @anon3336 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Seems like Proto-Indo-European-Euskarian is a proposed thing now.

    • @paulinalevina9690
      @paulinalevina9690 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@anon3336 LOL

  • @uwuifyingransomware
    @uwuifyingransomware ปีที่แล้ว +300

    My favourite crazy linguistic theory is that the Beach Boys time-travelled by accident while performing Barbara Ann, and the Ancient Greeks thought "wow, these guys are weird" and reused the sounds to make what we now know as the word "barbarian"

    • @pattheplanter
      @pattheplanter ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That theory was clearly formulated by someone who had listened to Robert Calvert's "Lay of the Surfers" from the album _Lucky Leif and the Longships_ while in the appropriately enhanced state of mind.

    • @urquizabr
      @urquizabr ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It's more plausible than some hypotheses exposed in the video.

    • @liimlsan3
      @liimlsan3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      The Beach Boys were the sea peoples who collapsed the bronze age

    • @holdingpattern245
      @holdingpattern245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@liimlsan3do you think that the Sea Peoples were actually called "Beach Boys," but it got translated as "Sea Peoples" by modern people trying to make sense of it?

  • @memsom
    @memsom ปีที่แล้ว +228

    I spoke with Nyland. He was “dedicated” to his theories (read: blinkered and obsessive). The main issue (aside the insanity of it) was loan words in Basque. They got used in his “decoding” process along with native words. So, a lot of his work was flawed before you even process the fact it was bat s**t crazy.

    • @Netro1992
      @Netro1992 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ... Wait, what? Is he not aware of this or he claiming that basque doesn't have loan words but rather than all basque loan words are actually basque and the other languages borrowed them from basque?

    • @memsom
      @memsom ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Netro1992 well, he is unfortunately no longer with us. And I don’t know. I believe he just didn’t take that in to account and because of that it only went to prove how flawed his theory was. Acknowledging obviously it is also completely nonsensical.

  • @qwertyTRiG
    @qwertyTRiG ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Ogham is well known to be ancient Irish, and is well understood. Did Nyland simply ignore anything that didn't suit his thesis?

    • @user-ht1vg5we2p
      @user-ht1vg5we2p ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I think it had not been deciphered when he made his theory

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +115

      He was the best academic of all time what do you mean

    • @memsom
      @memsom ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Yes, he just ignored all evidence that contradicted his theories

    • @wirelessbluestone5983
      @wirelessbluestone5983 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He might’ve been talking about Pictish Ogham stones in Scotland some of which aren’t deciphered because small the sample size is. However most linguists think Pictish was a Brythonic language.

    • @semi-useful5178
      @semi-useful5178 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As every good academic does

  • @Jacob-yg7lz
    @Jacob-yg7lz ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Agma Scwa's reading was so intense I almost wasn't distracted by the Lapis Lazuli waifu pillow.

    • @aureavita8653
      @aureavita8653 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Can't blame him. I sympathize.

  • @taimunozhan
    @taimunozhan ปีที่แล้ว +102

    The idea that someone ever had any success getting people to speak a conlang is the most ridiculous part of this whole ordeal, as any conlanger can attest

    • @artifactU
      @artifactU 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      oðer ðen esperanto which is spoken by alot, & i þink intserslavic haz afew þousand speakers to

    • @kyled2153
      @kyled2153 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@artifactUyou forgot about toki pona

    • @artifactU
      @artifactU 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kyled2153 i dont know how easy it iz to have a conversation with such limited wordstock, seriously 120 are very few words & i dont speak it so idk what its like. but yeah ig i kinda did forget

    • @wildstarfish3786
      @wildstarfish3786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@artifactUit is apparently very easy to learn though

    • @artifactU
      @artifactU 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wildstarfish3786 yeah i know

  • @carver3147
    @carver3147 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    5:56 The theory is bad enough on its own, but wow did he even read the Odyssey? Paris isn't a place, he was a prince of Troy lmfao

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +54

      That's me throwing that in there I think? I probably made that image 10 months ago.

  • @lucasthirion5209
    @lucasthirion5209 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    As a flemish guy it is so funny that Nyland wanted to destroy Flemish, which is not even a language and just a particular Dutch dialect, but wanted to combine other languages. Don't be shy about your dutch it sounds good, if a Dutch guy says your g is not throathy enough, just say you like the flemish accent more and you are earning that.

    • @tinuswl
      @tinuswl ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To add to this, Dutch speakers from the South (Noord-Brabant and Limburg) also do not speak with the “hard” g sound.

  • @GojiMet86
    @GojiMet86 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    12:22 "All highly developed languages on Earth except for *possibly Chinese* have been shown to be developed from the original Saharan language"
    Well that was just random, lol.

  • @rainrope5069
    @rainrope5069 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Talking about John Lily and saying "LSD was involved" is always an understatement

  • @AgmaSchwa
    @AgmaSchwa ปีที่แล้ว +76

    After all these years it's finally here 🙌

  • @babelingua
    @babelingua ปีที่แล้ว +39

    OOF I straight up forgot we even recorded this. 11/10 video

  • @dominikrode8184
    @dominikrode8184 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    the amount of pure pain i was inflicted at 7:35 when he said Germany and showed a Belgian flag is indescribable

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Good

    • @pattedechat2457
      @pattedechat2457 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I was searching for this comment (but to be fair, he said German, not Germany, and German is spoken in Belgium, so he's technically correct).

  • @ConnorQuimby
    @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +171

    This video took me a year to make and is the reason I got burned out and made nothing last summer :P

    • @calindarul
      @calindarul ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't wait to see the premier!

    • @dimanyak373
      @dimanyak373 ปีที่แล้ว

      relatable

    • @coloncp
      @coloncp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calindarul Bxmbz

    • @memsom
      @memsom ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh man, you found Edo Nyland? He was totally and utterly convinced. I actually had an email conversation with him back in the late 90’ or early 2000’s (I wish I still had the email.) He seemed like a nice enough person, but he was absolutely obsessed with his theories. I think he was still in the process of writing the book. It was mainly based on the info on his website at the time.
      Yeah I just checked and it would be for an email address I no longer have access to. Shame. I used to check back in on his work from time to time and was sad to hear he had passed.

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@memsom Woah! So you think it wasn't actually satirization of comparative linguistics (which I should point out, I also thought he was legit to the extent that I could see from his archive website, and the only thing that got me going that it could possibly be satire was his forestry background and the fact that it was so far out there.) That's so neat though. Emails that predate me. Woah.

  • @jaykaufman9782
    @jaykaufman9782 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Years ago I read a scholar-like article by an American Indian activist who rejected the Out of Africa theory. He argued all human beings originated in the Amazon Basin and spread from there across the world. His evidence: linguistic families which put English into the same family as Chinese. The proof: "How are you?" and "Ni Hau?" have the same "word" pronounced "haw." Et cetera.
    His motive was to uphold American Indian myths which insisted the indigenous nations of the Western Hemisphere *originated* in their current homelands.
    I've been kicking myself ever since, because I didn't print up this article when I encountered it, or at least record the man's name. He was a professor in an Oklahoma college, I believe. Anyone out there know anything about this gem?

    • @CellThePerfectAndroid
      @CellThePerfectAndroid ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Average citizen of Oklahoma💀

    • @presidentJameskpolk-rm8gl
      @presidentJameskpolk-rm8gl ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can't help but think this is why 95 percent of them are dead

    • @pattedechat2457
      @pattedechat2457 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That professor should have a talk with the Tamil nationalists who invented an entire fake continent to claim they are the ancestors of the Mayas. I'm sure their conversation would be very entertaining.

    • @CrisSelene
      @CrisSelene 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      So, according to his theory, all languages that have words which are homophones are related. Good to know 😵‍💫

  • @marcdigiambattista751
    @marcdigiambattista751 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That last one was a hell of a ride. Somehow dude convinces himself that the Homeric epics actually took place in Scotland, then this leads him down a rabbit hole where the Basques are the last remnants of a lost Saharan master race and every other language in the world is a conlang created by monks to enforce the patriarchy.

  • @Ali-bu6lo
    @Ali-bu6lo ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I'm surprised the sun theory, which claims all languages are from Turkish isn't here, especially that unlike the ones here, it was taught and encouraged by the government for some time because apparently Ataturk was believer in the theory.
    Also Pan-Turks, especially their Azerbaijani nationalist kind, often make weird claims such as claiming Sumerian, Finnish, Basque, Etruscan, Median and many other ancient or living languages to be Turkic.

    • @vaiyt
      @vaiyt ปีที่แล้ว

      Nationalists of all stripes like to claim everything great secretly came from their people

    • @marcdigiambattista751
      @marcdigiambattista751 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is pretty much just the Altaic Language Family theory with a nationalist twist. Though nobody remotely credible thinks Sumerian or Median belong there.

    • @Ali-bu6lo
      @Ali-bu6lo ปีที่แล้ว

      @Marc DiGiambattista They are kinda four separate theories at the same time: First the Altaic that had some scientific support but is now debunked. Then is the Ural-Altaic theory which I have only heard from some Turkish and Azerbaijani scholars or wannabes. Then there's the Sun theory which I haven't seen much among modern circles. And finally there's the chaotic nonsense many Azerbaijani and some Turkish nationalists say that tries to claim anything they find as Turkic, just to prove that the original Turks were not East Eurasian and were living in Southwest Asia.

    • @Zorunlutitle
      @Zorunlutitle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Linguists say that such a thing can happen to Atatürk, and Atatürk gives a source(money), nothing more. You're making history out of your ass.

    • @simulacrumpilot2777
      @simulacrumpilot2777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The problem is Atatürk himself gave up on that theory later in his life and it hasn't been taught in schools for decades at this point. Since it no longer has any defenders it's not as funny as the nonsensical theories here.

  • @user-iyhytgy
    @user-iyhytgy ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ah yes, my fave genre of TH-cam is stickman PowerPoint presentations based on entertaining facts and knowledge of the world mixed with a side of humor. And I will always love it no matter what.

  • @deathmorphosis
    @deathmorphosis ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Just a sidenote; "Nyland" (If you're somewhat generally linguistically proficient as an English native speaker, you can pretty much guess what it means; "New Land") is a Swedish last name used by Finland-Swedes (it's the second most common last name among them), but you'll of course find non-Swedish speaking Finns today bearing the name as well, although it does mean that they are originally Finland-Swedes. So both the Swedish and Finnish pronunciation of the name are correct. Since we're on the subject of linguistics I figured I'd point that out.
    Although if said in English, the pronunciation you went with would be the "correct" way of anglifying the pronunciation of the name.

    • @perf2.078
      @perf2.078 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If a sel- claimed "linguist" doesn't know how to pronounce Nyland and Chomsky correctly, there may be some doubts concerning his other opinions... :) Some facts are real gibberish of course, but several theories are still considered more or less probable.

    • @PlayerX330
      @PlayerX330 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nyland is also the swedish name for the region of Uusimaa in southern Finland.

    • @starseeing
      @starseeing ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@perf2.078«Chomsky» произносится с буквой «ч» на английском языке. Почти уверен, что сам Хомский произносит собственное имя так.

  • @cadian101st
    @cadian101st 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like that Nyland has batshit takes beyond linguistics, dabbling into batshit theology by saying that the scattering of languages at Babel is a commandment to be enacted rather than a divine punishment that already happened

  • @aitorherrera5937
    @aitorherrera5937 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Im Basque and cried when I saw the word "merezi" which is very clearly a romanic loan world lmao

    • @aitorherrera5937
      @aitorherrera5937 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      zerbitu too btw

    • @mondomola
      @mondomola 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Puede que este video sea pura paja mental y haya elegido euskera porque nadie lo conoce

  • @garklein8089
    @garklein8089 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "brought with them a matrilinealy organized society, a nature-based goddess religion" hmmm someone's been reading The White Goddess

  • @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
    @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Humans cannot speak without their vocal chords either.
    A sane version of the dolphin experiment would be to genetically engineer lab mice to have human vocal chords or a parrot (like) syrinxes.

    • @lukesmith8896
      @lukesmith8896 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      "sane"

    • @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
      @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@lukesmith8896 We do far worse to lab mice for far less.
      Plus, when the mice are actually physically able to speak, their mind can be accurately analyzed (obviously dependent on the competence/creativity of the scientists).

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Mice have far less "brain power" than dolphins so I suspect that kind of experiment wouldn't really test what the dolphin experiment was supposed to.

    • @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
      @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@seneca983 Them having less brain power should make the experiment easier.
      Then we can move up to dolphins and similarly intelligent animals, once we perfect it with mice.
      Wouldn't want the dolphins to get most of the (almost certainly minor) harm, would we?

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana I don't think mice are capable of the level of understanding the experimenters were aiming for.

  • @blakeliu8200
    @blakeliu8200 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This makes me think about a conlang that was written in high school, strategically placed and manipulated to form a religious language to get off class on Tuesdays

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "Zœt ðorœşp úro tœgro ú vafílœk" or something like that

  • @Methus3lah
    @Methus3lah ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My ultra-detailed language theory:
    Humans have been using language for hundreds of thousands if not millions of years. The first language was likely a pidgin of quick sounds to coordinate hunts, label objects, and teach children the ways of the world. These pidgins evolved over time into more complex words and grammar, and new words were created as people migrated and encountered new things. And then languages kept evolving, drifting further and further apart, until they were completely unrecognizable. To the point that we can’t tell how some languages are related anymore.
    The only reason that we have large language families like indo-European is because of major migrations relatively recently (8,000 years ago). Even then, languages like English and Hindi are so different that it’s barely possible to see their relationship. So yeah, all languages are related, but the relationships are so ancient that we can’t see them anymore.

    • @holdingpattern245
      @holdingpattern245 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Crazy theory: the original language was a sign language which existed for so long that humans physically adapted to it, which is why they (we) use so much body language while speaking, however this was gradually replaced by spoken languages which are slightly more useful, and most macrolanguage theories are actually true but only in the sense that they are all independently relexed from this common sign language.

    • @Methus3lah
      @Methus3lah ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@holdingpattern245 That makes a lot of sense. Most animals use body language to communicate, and I suppose it’s only natural that humans started out the same way.

    • @ZealousWins
      @ZealousWins 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really love your theory! It seems to make so much sense. Given the migration of humans over time, as well as the global diaspora of language families, it only makes sense that humans had created some sort of basic mode of communication from the very start, evolving on its own once people began to move to other locations to hunt and eventually settle.

    • @ZealousWins
      @ZealousWins 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@holdingpattern245This is also an interesting idea, seeing that spoken communication is likely more complex than sign language & gestures.
      Although, an idea I just came up with is this: perhaps we used body language at first, and later kept and adapted it due to how some situations may make listening alone rather difficult. Hence why we still express ourselves using gestures today as we speak aloud. And personally, I like this extra detail -- it gives communication with each other extra pizzazz. :)

  • @samhaine6804
    @samhaine6804 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    MATE i cant believe you didnt mention cymru-glyphics (the ancient egyptians were welsh ofcourse)

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's not a crazy theory it's true smh

  • @mrelephant2283
    @mrelephant2283 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Every word of this is absolute insanity 10/10 would conspiracy again

  • @mr.flibblessumeriantransla5417
    @mr.flibblessumeriantransla5417 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I can’t count the number of interactions ve had with people trying to connect some language with Sumerian. Turkic, Hungarian (and Uralic in general), and Dravidian being the most frequent. Also Albanian for some weird reason.
    It’s mind-numbing after awhile.

    • @AnAverageItalian
      @AnAverageItalian ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Most Albanians always try to connect their culture with something ancient to make it seem one of the "world proto-cultures"
      Source: my parents are Albanian, fortunately they don't do this, but they know far too many individuals that do

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@AnAverageItalian I've done historical linguistics research work on Proto-Albanian and I can debunk any Albanian nationalist trying to make themselves feel better about speaking Albanian

    • @AnAverageItalian
      @AnAverageItalian ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ConnorQuimby absolutely based

    • @Vesporeon
      @Vesporeon ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ConnorQuimby It's strange thing considering there's nothing wrong with speaking Albanian...

  • @seneca983
    @seneca983 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wettenhovi-Aspa also thought that the Swedish "människa" (person) comes from Finnish "maanussija" (ground fucker) even though I wouldn't count that as a real word.

    • @aurin_komak
      @aurin_komak ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the Finnish word "hunsvotti" (a messy, poor mannered person) comes from the Swedish "hunds fitta" (dog's cunt)
      Most Finns don't know hunsvotti is derived from a curse word, and it's not seen as such here

    • @user-jm3xl7rg5k
      @user-jm3xl7rg5k 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What a funny words Finnish has)))

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-jm3xl7rg5k This isn't in any way specific to Finnish. If it was, I couldn't have translated it to English. I'm pretty sure you can translate it to other languages to (assuming they don't e.g. lack the word for "ground" or something).

    • @aureavita8653
      @aureavita8653 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "maanussija" meaning ground fucker is really funny to me as a native Indonesian speaker as it sounds like "manusia" meaning human lmao

  • @bowaxer7952
    @bowaxer7952 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a basque person it’s always fun to see people struggle with the basque ‘z’

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh yeah I am aware I horribly anglicized the Basque in this video. I recorded this in February of 2022 and if I did it now I probably would have tried a bit harder, but at the same time, Nyland didn't care about butchering up the Basque language lolll

    • @cephalosjr.1835
      @cephalosjr.1835 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you hear English ‘s’ as closer to Basque ‘z’ or ‘s’?

    • @owneyyuwu2804
      @owneyyuwu2804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@cephalosjr.1835 the Basque /s/ is almost the same as the English /s/

  • @enelabe
    @enelabe ปีที่แล้ว +6

    16:16 this is so funny because it's wrong in so many levels: first of all, "zerbitzatu" ("zerbitu" is not conisdered correct) is a loan word coming from Spanish verb "servir" (to serve), which is so obvious but I guess this guy flipped the whole loanword situation around. However, the funniest part is that the ending "-tu" is just the infinive marking for most of Basque verbs (e.g. "ikutu", "apurtu", "lotsatu", "asmatu"), so it has nothing to do with the specific meaning of the verb "to serve"

    • @enelabe
      @enelabe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      16:33 also, "ikerlari" means "researcher" and not "visitor"

  • @Technocolor00
    @Technocolor00 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the reading of Edo Nyland's hypothesis makes me feel like im being assaulted

  • @modmaker7617
    @modmaker7617 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Most crazy linguistic theory; Altaic

  • @realhawaii5o
    @realhawaii5o ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:05 thank you for correctly depicting England and the Aral sea.

  • @robert9016
    @robert9016 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Not the Steven Universe bodypillow

    • @alecity4877
      @alecity4877 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      glad someone mentions it.

  • @yaguetept9340
    @yaguetept9340 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:04 Lol the kiki bouba experiment reference is golden

  • @samuelvancik3762
    @samuelvancik3762 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    you crossing out Hungary at 17:20 is the best part of the video, laughed for like 5 minutes 💀💀

  • @kahlilbt
    @kahlilbt ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Well it took ya a year but you made this linguist very happy. Subscribed

  • @earsoles
    @earsoles ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I get the point he makes at the end but I don’t want Scottish Gaelic to die, it’s an important art of my identity

  • @jakobbruhspenning
    @jakobbruhspenning 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a flemmish person I would like to mention the voiced velar fricatives to be a recent evolution of the dutch language as it was historically (and still is in flanders where this horrendous shift hasn't taken place) an approximate instead of a fricative.

  • @patronsaintoflostcauses4029
    @patronsaintoflostcauses4029 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nyland thought he could pull a sneaky on us, but Connor ain't having it!

  • @valentinmitterbauer4196
    @valentinmitterbauer4196 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a non- english/dutch- native- speaker, it's really eye opening to see how incredibly biased Nyland (and others) are/were when it came to language development by their mother tongue. Sure, english is the easiest language to learn, gendered nouns are nonsensical and illogical, abugidas only exist to mess with people and all languages write their verbs with "to" in front of them when they are written out of context.

  • @Ibrahim666ss
    @Ibrahim666ss ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I am surprised that you didn’t mention Sun language theory

    • @ibn_klingschor
      @ibn_klingschor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "foreign words like the French wattman, in French stemming from watt and man, were claimed to be of Turkish origin by a Turkish scholar"
      Man... watt??

  • @bobmcbob9856
    @bobmcbob9856 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Is Jovan Deretić on the list? He’s the unfortunate embarrassment who thinks Serbs are the Proto Indo Europeans.
    His method is finding any toponym with [S/Z][optional vowel][R/L][B/M/N/V] and claiming it means the current or ancient inhabitants of the area are or were descended from the Serbs regardless of how other supposed SRB related toponyms from the same language look or how that fits into sound changes in other cognates, real or imagined, between that language and a Serbian, so like he might claim that Zrn and Sulv are both one language’s cognates of Srb.
    Also the Pope, and the Byzantine and Habsburg empires and today the English and Americans are conspiring to hide this and the Serbs had a massive ancient empire, no relation to the real Serbian empire.
    [edit: sadly he is not]

    • @vaiyt
      @vaiyt ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ah, "Everything great is secretly Serbian", my favorite movie next to "Everything great is secretly Hindustani", "Everything great is secretly German", "Everything great is secretly British", "Everything great is secretly Chinese" and "Everything great is secretly Russian".

    • @AnAverageItalian
      @AnAverageItalian ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vaiyt don't forget "Everything great is secretly Albanian"

    • @ahG7na4
      @ahG7na4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@vaiyt "everything great is secretly alien" (von Däniken et al.)

    • @bobmcbob9856
      @bobmcbob9856 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vaiyt And everything is secretly Catalan

  • @gergelygalvacsy2251
    @gergelygalvacsy2251 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    17:17 the erasure of Hungarian speaking areas lol

    • @ConnorQuimby
      @ConnorQuimby  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Never heard of Hungarian, that's crazy though

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ConnorQuimby Never heard of English. lol

  • @keylime6
    @keylime6 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Now we just need artifexian and biblaridion and we’ll have the all of the conlang TH-camrs in one video

  • @tadesubaru1383
    @tadesubaru1383 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It was just yesterday I was telling a friend about the story of Tartalo, and how close it is to Polyphemus in the Odyssey! As a child, I used to confuse both stories a lot.
    I am a native Basque speaker and live in the Basque Country! If you have questions, I can answer them!

    • @denniskozevnikoff1209
      @denniskozevnikoff1209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in your daily life, do you speak spanish or basque with others? do you think there is any truth to the theory in the video, are there any basque words in english? what do you think was the origin of basque people?

  • @changer..
    @changer.. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't processed a single word of the agma schwa clip because the vibes were just too overwhelming

  • @rosaburgs6019
    @rosaburgs6019 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait for next year’s video

  • @theaureliasys6362
    @theaureliasys6362 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just now noticed that agma schwa sounds like Krimson Rogue

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing I wish Nyland was right about is the number of Ainu speakers.
    BTW, your comparing of his crackpot theory to a work of art reminds me of a Polish artist, mainly sculptor (quite good and iteresting one), Stanisław Szukalski, who developed his own pseudohistorical theory, involving linguistics. It's called Zermatism, and it makes Nyland look sane in comparison.

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we need more altaics

  • @dovydass
    @dovydass ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched one of your videos and thought you are a multimillion subscriber channel cuz your videos are so well made

  • @Kasasasassasasasasasas
    @Kasasasassasasasasasas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this, this is like sam o'nella but instead of history it's linguistics. So awesome. Subscribed.

  • @enelabe
    @enelabe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love to come across Basque in these niche linguistics videos on TH-cam :)
    But it's so funny to me because most of the example words used on the video don't really exist (like "mudapen", "tara" or "kiritu"), so I have no idea where Nyland supposedly took them from and their translations to English are obviously wrong.

  • @jakubolszewski8284
    @jakubolszewski8284 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your map is awesome. That sad Aral sea and lack o e*gland. :D

  • @user-lz4qs2qg2b
    @user-lz4qs2qg2b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nikolai Marr
    "A New Doctrine of Language."
    1. Language originated from "labour cries" as a result of "sound revolution" and is connected with the beginning of human labour activity.
    2. All words of all languages have a common origin (monogenesis), namely from the "four elements" - the original labour cries SAL, BER, YON and ROSH
    3. A pre-language cannot divide into several new languages; languages can only interbreed.

  • @Hwelhos
    @Hwelhos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow those r amazing theories, and great dutch :p

  • @Kamarovsky_KCM
    @Kamarovsky_KCM ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kashubian mentioned LETSGOOOO!

  • @EdbertWeisly
    @EdbertWeisly ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes all Finns are Indonesian🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well. Time to work on an Uralo-Indonesian family theory. I guess.

  • @urquizabr
    @urquizabr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It gets me mad, how much some people still try use the Bible as a science book. Just stop. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @josephshlanta8870
    @josephshlanta8870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video. I do want to point out tho, that the fine syllable in "benedictine" is pronounced with a short "i" and not a long one

  • @zerodelgato3842
    @zerodelgato3842 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Conner I just found your channel and was wondering if you had ever looked into the koasati language and if would be willing to do a video on it, it's spoken on the Alabama-Couashatta and the Couashatta reservations in Texas and Louisiana respectively.

  • @vrixphillips
    @vrixphillips ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it's like... the Basque version of New Chronology lol i love it

  • @Yan_Alkovic
    @Yan_Alkovic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nyland is pronounced as if it were IPA. Also it means “new land”
    The way you said it sounds like “nylon”

  • @southronpapist
    @southronpapist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's my crazy theory: Crimean Gothic is derived from Anglo-Saxon. We know without a doubt that Anglo-Saxons did migrate into the lands of the Byzantine Empire following the conquests of William of Normandy. It is reasonable, if not certain therefore, that Crimean Gothic is just an advanced form of the Anglo-Saxon English.

  • @theoneandonly1833
    @theoneandonly1833 ปีที่แล้ว

    barely into the vid but a monthly schedule aint bad at all

  • @TheGribblesnitch
    @TheGribblesnitch ปีที่แล้ว +3

    chad agma schwa with the body pillow in the background

  • @takashi.mizuiro
    @takashi.mizuiro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this needs more likes

  • @wilhelmseleorningcniht9410
    @wilhelmseleorningcniht9410 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Theo Vennemann has gotta be in here somewhere

  • @bobmcbob9856
    @bobmcbob9856 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    To be fair, the idea that Macedonian is merely a dialect of Bulgarian is one presented by legitimate linguists too. I’m not sure, I don’t speak either so I’m not familiar with the differences but as a speaker of a relatively similar language (Serbocroatian) they do sound very similar to each other, but that doesn’t really prove shit since obviously they are more similar to each other than to anything else so they’d seem about the same to an outsider.

  • @losermidnight
    @losermidnight 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Listen, I'm here for just as much reason as the rest of you are, but I cannot for the life of me take my eyes off the Lapis body pillow at 11:58 !

  • @innsj6369
    @innsj6369 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These kinds of conspiracy theories are weird, because they always weave little bits of truth into them, isolated from context. Yes, there was a late migration out of Africa, one associated with the spread of the Afroasiatic language family, which could have some connection to Neolithic languages in Eurasia. It's true that pre-Bronze Age societies were more equalitarian-but the emergence of patriarchy cannot have been a special effort by a single religion, rather a series of deimic migrations and invasions, like the Indo-European expansion. Essentially people who love conquering their neighbours are typically obsessed with male warriors. The rest is crackpot nonsense, of course, but that's how conspiracy theories get you: by sprinkling it with just enough truth to make it appear plausible to those who don't know any better.

  • @ender7278
    @ender7278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:12 That's actually a pretty good upload schedule. Don't feel ashamed.

  • @malegria9641
    @malegria9641 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    my personal favorite as a learner of chechen is that ancient greek is not, in fact, indo-european, but vainakh.
    Prometheus - Pxarmat
    Lykos - Borzosh
    Ego - So
    Su - Xo
    Auta - Uish
    yeah this theory is bullshit

  • @ender7278
    @ender7278 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is nobody gonna mention that the "historian" in the CBC presentation suspiciously has the same name as an actor best known for playing John Connor in Terminator 2?

  • @dionysianapollomarx
    @dionysianapollomarx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A little on the nose implying Chomskians quacks, though Edo Nyland obviously is.

  • @artifactU
    @artifactU 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:01 i just wanna mention how northumbrian english has a uvular fricative

  • @pertxuprogamerxd5895
    @pertxuprogamerxd5895 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some basque words you use as examples in this video came fron latin or spanish language, I advise you serch the origin of each words you will use in future videos about languages to make sure is a valid exaple. Other than that this video is one of the most informative videos I've seen about the teories of the origin of the basque, congratulations.
    Nothing more to say, greetings from the spanish basque country.

  • @martinomasolo8833
    @martinomasolo8833 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tjought you were gonna talk about Homer in the Baltic and the baltic origin of the Greeks :( but this is still more than I can take lol

  • @FerdinandCesarano
    @FerdinandCesarano ปีที่แล้ว

    0:13 - That **raises** the question.

  • @josephshlanta8870
    @josephshlanta8870 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does agma hold the book when he just keeps eye contact with the camera the whole time and me er looks at the book?

  • @hrafnagu9243
    @hrafnagu9243 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, there was some freaky shit goin on in that dolphin experiment.

  • @ninjaeagleart
    @ninjaeagleart 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My favorite crackpot language family theory is the Dene-Caucasian family. It proposes that the Na-Dene langs, Sino-Tibetan langs, Caucasian langs, Basque, and a few North Asian languages are part of one family. That's right- Basque, Chinese, and Navajo are relatives according to this theory

  • @adriennequimby3983
    @adriennequimby3983 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool intro!

  • @UpperCumberlandGamers
    @UpperCumberlandGamers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya know there's a stadium in Knoxville, Tennessee. The stadium is called Neyland Stadium. It's pronounced like Knee-land

  • @realdealteal111
    @realdealteal111 ปีที่แล้ว

    For anyone looking to find out more about insane human-dolphin studies, highly recomend one of my alma mater's most famous alumni's book "wet goddess"

  • @thegrassguy2871
    @thegrassguy2871 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the "Genesis narrative in Chinese characters" bunk?

  • @Namuchat
    @Namuchat ปีที่แล้ว

    7:33 So the Belgian tricolore is now considered to be the flag of Germania?

  • @williampatrick8814
    @williampatrick8814 วันที่ผ่านมา

    someone's educational background and date of death has nothing to do with the validity of a hypothesis

  • @thepanplate
    @thepanplate ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:01 what's sugondese??

  • @aarongadbury4561
    @aarongadbury4561 ปีที่แล้ว

    24 seconds and i love you

  • @slusieous
    @slusieous 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love you buddy

  • @RyRy2057
    @RyRy2057 ปีที่แล้ว

    never heard of it before but im now a Borean stan. long live the Dene-Daic branch

  • @jamesidk1575
    @jamesidk1575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ngl if you’re fucked up off two bang energy drinks and an elf bar the theories of Edo Nyland kinda make sense like the pieces really start coming together.

  • @JorWat25
    @JorWat25 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you're telling me Sigurd Wettenhovi-Aspa was basically the father from My Big Fat Greek Wedding, just for Finnish rather than Greek?