Who were the Proto-Indo-Europeans?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2017
- The existence of the Proto-Indo-Europeans (formerly referred to as Aryans) was once argued purely on linguistic evidence, but recent analysis of DNA of the Yamnaya culture and related steppe cultures, demonstrates their genetic legacy on Indo-European cultures in a timeframe that matches the expansion proposed by linguists.
Most interesting of all, despite the fact these people started off in the Pontic Caspian steppe of Eastern Europe, modern populations in all of Northern, Central and Eastern Europe all have a strong genetic affinity with them.
This video explains what genetic and linguistic evidence tells us about how they lived, what they looked like and what their pagan religion was like.
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Sources:
Massive migration from the steppe was source for Indo-European languages in Europe
www.nature.com/nature/journal/...
Steppe people had healthy genes
biorxiv.org/content/early/2017...
90% of British DNA replaced in Neolithic by steppe descended invaders
eurogenes.blogspot.se/2017/05/...
3 populations make up modern Europeans
drive.google.com/file/d/0B016...
Culture and language among Corded ware people
drive.google.com/file/d/0B016...
drive.google.com/file/d/0B016...
Anthony, D., 'The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World'
amzn.to/3wOUyUQ
Learn more by reading the links and sources in the description. Please be civil in the comments.
What are you sink about Russians? Russians have a R1a haplogroup. The highest caste of India, the Brahmans, who, according to the giving, were the Aryans, also had haplogroup R1a. Your thoughts on this?
Борис Борисычь R1a and R1b are clearly haplogroups of the original PIE speakers. Russians have a lot of yamnaya ancestry through the corded ware culture
Survive the Jive one thing i want to correct is in hinduism bothsun and moon are male gods including 9 celestial beings whoz position affect a person .. And moon god has have all the constellations as his consorts
+ Survive the Jive About origins of wheel:
Döñgelek (Kaz and Kyr): from verb döñgelenu (turn).
Verb Döñgelek was formed by combining words domalau (roll) and kelu (to come/arrive).
Döñgelek/Wheel/Koleso
Word Döñgelek describes exactly what a wheel does: it rolls and comes/arrives.
Also it contains letters G, E, L some of which appear in English “wheel" and Russian “koleso”. When forming Russian KOLESO, “g” shifted to “k”. It is surprising, because originally in Kazakh there was “k” (in kelu (to come/arrive) and then it shifted to “g” to harmonize.
So, it seems we found the origins of Eurasian wheel.
By the way, the origins of English “ride” are in the Steppe too. Kazakh for “ride” is “aydau”.
Keiser Sior I find it amazing that the concept of hospitality is so old among our people that it has a mutually intelligible term in languages that have evolved so far apart.
Indo-Europeans, what happens when a tribe spends all their tech-points on military technology.
To this day too lmao
You don't get hipsters, that's what happens
Well, it turned out pretty useful for them in the end.
Also, most of the world's surviving religions
They did leave more of a presence than the peaceful people of Thera.
So, where do you want to go?
Proto-Indo-Europeans: Yes.
Dr.Bright this comment is pure gold!
This comment makes no sense
Jai
@@hleotanhleotan2819 the implication is that they were asked where they wanted to go and they just went everywhere hence 'yes'
from the steppe to the moon.
One small Steppe for man , one giant Steppe for mankind........
lol accurate
The indo-europeans are very indo-european
Wrong they are indo _slavik
@@je-freenorman7787 Lmao
@@je-freenorman7787 And mostly Brahmin, oh dear.
@@je-freenorman7787 western culture comes from Greeks and romans. Who also made Christianity become possible. So please stop your anti Christian stuff
@@anunnakmm 😂 ok
So Hinduism is the last trace of the original Indo-European religion before the mass conversion to Abrahamic religions?
Boci Levu pretty much. There is also Zoroastrianism
Then both Hinduism and Zoroastrianism would be the last 'pagan' religions left. The world needs to ensure the preservation of both!
Throughout their history both Christianity and Islam have tried to wipe-out or convert pagans (and each other) through their aggressively expansionist doctrine. Now there are far fewer people in Eurasia who practice the original beliefs of their Indo-European ancestors :-(
Josh Hari its partially derived from persian paganism
Zororastianism is taking its last breath in India. Parsis of India are Zororastians who came from Iran to India to save their Religion and Culture from Islamic invaders.
Josh Hari you stay happy with that Arab cult but don't expect us to love it. We will always hate that death cult.
-watch Survive the Jive video
-listen to soothing and calm English accent for 20 minutes
-video ends
-fuck didn't pay attention have to re-watch
Every fucking time.
Haha, I know exactly what you mean. His voice is soothing.
As a man you are telling us you enjoy listening to english man talk,and you enjoy the accent. Now If it was a girl I would agree because english women do sound soothing
-listen to soothing and calm English accent
-suddenly *DUNKELHEIT*
Great song !
I am quite heterosexual Rojek, buddy ol' pal. Your hair triggers me though I think I get flashbacks from Poland vs Ukraine battles.
Pater Dyus = as a Spanish speaker thousands of years later, I could understand what that means immediately, no explanation is required. It's simply amazing. It's mind blowing really
Dyus Pater... Yus Pater... Jiupatter... Júpiter
dispater in Gaulish. Pater is father in Latin. (pater, patris, patri, patrem, patre). Dyeus is like deus, Latin for God but also has the sense of sky about it.
Rig Vedic Dyāus Pitãh
@@geoffreyharris5931 the indo european one is more like phter
Padre Dios
I've been binging your channel over the last few days. Really enjoying it.
Yours looks good to mate
You should make a video on the Yamnaya
@@Survivethejive thank you ❤❤
Two of the best YT channels
there was no Turkey 3600 years ago. Better to say Anatolia
true but there was no Anatolia either
@Survive the Jive Exactly. There was the Hittite Empire in that location (and the place was not even called Anatolia back then) at that time and they were basically Aryans aka Indo-Europeans.
anatolia means anato helion in greek. so basically land of the rising sun. but we cult call it asia minor aka later turkey
Anatolia just refers to the geographical peninsula, no? @@Survivethejive
Agreed. 'Asia Minor' and 'Anatolia' are useful geographic descriptors, 'Turkey' is not.
So basically a Yamna man with a horse was like a man with a nice car in the 50's, a chick magnet. I totally get that, and it also explains why western girls seems to love horses.
ONLY MARGINALLY. Freud spits on you ..but it returns to him in the wind.
@@AMsamification lol fk freud the bullshitting asswipe
It's same now. Sexual revolution freed women from 1000yrs of traditional sex roles... and observe, they naturally coalesce into harems that strongly value traditional male sex roles.
Women like horses because they have gib bix. If western women were drawn to ‘nice cars,’ however, one would naturally expect to find more women of means driving sports cars and a greater general knowledge of/appreciation for cars amongst females. We don’t see that. What we do see are older men of humble endowment thinking that possession of vehicles and commodities of this sort ‘attract’ women. The comical error of such American consumerist thinking is difficult to overstate. Try cleaning yourself up, working out, projecting confidence in your demeanor, and showing women a fun time. Convey whatever wealth you have in a humble manner (women interested in such things will pick up on that no matter how subtle the cues are).
Maybe you got a point there all Indo-European woman like horses? Maybe a genetic memory 😝
I'm not white but I love your work and your more modest demeanor. I'm thinking about doing something like this for Africans and middle easterners. I think you need to write a book compiling your interpretation of the data mate.
Dante Henry hmmm , no !
Hey i can recommend some african channels.
Africans also have beautiful cukture and historical kingdoms
If you are writing in an Indo European language then its your cultural heritage as well.
You would have an uphill battle:
-DNA don't preserve well in hot environment
-less (for Africa) of written records
But anyway, good luck with your project. If you combat those two limitations, it could end up as really good stuff.
I'm Italian from Tuscany, and although all of my 8 great-grandparents were from Tuscany, my DNA admixture scan through GEDmatch came out with some surprising results. It was closer to the average Central European than I expected. Only 45% or so was ENF. Maybe it's because my mother's family probably had older Germanic origins, since their surname sounds like an Italianization of a German word. Now I understand why, when I was in the US, everybody thought I was from the Netherlands or France or something like that.
It's interesting and fascinating to find out something about our ancient bloodline, but one must always remember that, you know, people moved A LOT across the continent since then, and interbred AF. Otherwise you wouldn't have those blonde-haired blue-eyed Sicilians, probably descending from Normans that arrived there around year 1000 CE. They're not common, but they're there.
actually blonde hair was in the med before the indo-europeans were because some ENF had it
my great grandfather was a blonde haired blue eyed sicilian, he came to argentina in 1898. I'm interested in taking a dna test to see what the hell comes up.
Blue eyes is indigenous to Middle-easterns as well, and Sicily has been in the hands of middle-easterns along history (Carthaginians/Phoenicians peoples).
@@Survivethejive lol where did you get thatt.... every bit of info ive seen regarding the physical traits of ENF describes them with dark hair, dark eyes and pale white skin...
I had a great grandfather from Consenza in the state of Calabria, where they believe King Alaric died and was buried. My great grandfather was blonde hair, blue eyed with a very light complexion but he was only like 5'6" so he was short like a lot of South Italians. He was more Germanic looking than his half-Swabian, half-Prussian wife that was tall with brown hair and brown eyes.
Triggered you forgot the Frisians but notwithstanding the lack of trigger warnings very much enjoyed the video 😉
History With Hilbert I was triggered by the lack of Gewisse mentions in your Saxon video
I demand a mention of the Batavi.
Huginn und Muninn make Hwicce great again
anyone with the
Haplogroups
i1a
i2a
N1c
are Natives
Keis kopfen?
That abrupt Burzum bit had me legitimately laughing out loud for a minute. Haha, great video as always Tom, and great sense of humour haha
For a Varg-looking guy, that is no surprise for me. Haha
I speak Portuguese, indo european idiom. I confess, when a read some hindi word i feel a strange
familiarity...
Albanian sounds weird meat is mish so yeah, odd
Hi, I'm Praveen(Pravina -Sanskrit, proficient-English). I am a Sinhalese(Indo Aryan) from Sri Lanka, the southernmost Indo-European ethnic group. My love to all other Indo European brothers, sisters and cousins...
dravidian
@@thefuryofthedragon8715 Where are you from? I got you no matter what you say and you won't tell me. Here's something for you: "Genetic studies comparing eight X chromosome based STR markers using a multidimensional scaling plot (MDS plot), revealed that South Asians like Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sinhalese people cluster close to each other, but also closer to Europeans. In contrast Southeast Asians, East Asians and Africans were placed at a distant positions, outside the main cluster.[42]"
But either way, I'm of English ancestry and am no more pure "yamnaya" than this Sinhalese man, not that yamnaya genetic contribution matters; you're a historylet.
@@Whayleejay What I meant from my statement is that Sinhalese show more Dravidian AASI dna than their Northern cousins. and I am from Sweden and my ancestors have lived in Sweden as far as I know.
@@thefuryofthedragon8715 Ah yes a saami boy.
@@thefuryofthedragon8715 lol the snow monkey who would be completely forgotten about historically if it weren’t for more successful Europeans. take it to /pol/, you are valueless in real life.
"Geysl" meant "prisoner"?
"Gijzelen" in Dutch means "to take hostage", a "gijzelaar" is a "hostage", and a "gijzelnemer" is a "hostage-taker". The "ij" in all of these words is an "ey" sound.
"Gisslan" in Swedish. Apparently, the Germanic terms are loans from proto-Celtic:
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/g%C4%ABslaz
"Geisel" in German
We are our ancestors.
In German >Geisel< is a prisoner that was taken by some warriors or thefts, bank robbers and so far to have a good negotiating position. Thus the word could have been changed for so long to hostage, because you are as a >Geysl< in the rooms of the >Geysl's taker
in tuscan Re means King, in ancient latin Rex. Indoeuropean word? Regs.
As an American, I really relate to people who call their cheiftains potis.
Weitd coincidence 😯
There was a tribe in pakistan called pothi,s.
The beautiful thing about this language is that an English, Polish, Iranian and Indian persons can sit down listen to it and be like “hey I know this word!”. If you think about the word “ghosti” it is pretty universal
In Serbian language we say Gosti for guests too :)))
@@VolkischNationalist14 da
@@VolkischNationalist14 gäst ("yest") in Swedish.
In Russian too
Where are you from bruh?
Thank you so much. I’m doing my high school final project on the indo Europeans and their influence on the world. I needed some help haha
Good luck Varun
Survive the Jive thank you very much!
@@MrSeaguy1 because he is Gambhir
Post-larnygeal late IE words:
Relating to agriculture:
aksis - axle
qéqlos - wheel
dreibō/wregō - I drive
éḱwos - horse
woghnos/woghos - wagon, cart
yugóm - yoke
Relating to war and conflict:
ḱóros - war, struggle
ḱóryos, strātos - troops, army
ṇsis, kladyos - sword
waldhō - I am powerful, I possess, I prevail
Relating to patriarchal society:
déms potis - master of the house
wedhō - I lead, I guide (sneubhō is more used as "to wed", which is where Greek gets nymph from.)
réǵs - king
wedō (but also serō or yungō) - I join together
wednos - bride price, dowry
sneubhā, snusós - daughter-in-law
Miscellenous words:
bhrewō - I brew (brewṛ "brewer")
álumṇ, sudhyom - beer
gheislos - hostage, prisoner
ghóstis - host
ghóstipots - guest
cōus (c represents gw) - cow
peḱu - cattle
oitos/loughyom - oath
agóm/spṛdyom - contest
apóqitis/qoinā -revenge
woinos - wine
Relating to society:
bhlendhos/bhḷwós - blonde-haired, red-haired
wéiḱs settlement, village
wéiḱō - I settle, I inhabit
wéiḱpotis/deuks - chieftain
eryós - nobleman, kinsman
nṛ, teutā - people, tribe
genos - race, kin
neros - hero
Gods (deiwós, dhēs):
Dyēus Pətḗr - Zeus, Jupiter, Tyr, Dyauṣ Pitā (God of the sky, husband of Diwónā)
Diwónā - Juno, Diana, Dione, Dēvī (Goddess of marriage, women, marriage, fertility, cows, grain, the land and sovereignty)
Sāwḷ - Sol, Sól, Helios (from Sāwelyos), Surya, sister of Mḗnōts, god of the moon
Swéns qéqlos - Sun wheel, wheel of the sun, Diwós oqos "eye of Dyeus"
Mḗnōts - Mene, Máni, Meno, Mēn
Perqū́nos - Parjanya, Perkuns, Perun, Pērkons (God of storms, and the cloudy sky)
Yemós - Yama, Yemir, Yima, Remus (earlier Vayu, Vėjas, Venti, Vejapatis
Áusros (East, wind of prophecy and change)
Súnteros (South, wind of prosperity and creation)
Wéspros (West, wind of knowledge and mystery)
Ḱḗweros (North, wind of war and death)
Ṇgórā Déiwōm (assembly of the gods, established by Dyeus)
Néktēr (The drink that keeps the gods immortal, stolen by the Déiwōs
from the Dhwosōs)
Dhéǵhōm (Earth, land of humans) “Earth”
Dhǵhómonēs (Human beings, made by Manus from ash trees)
■ Ánsūs (chthonic gods)
Wélṇos - Veles, Vala/Varuna, Ullr, Vellaunos, Vēlinas, Walis (God of the
underworld, male fertility, husband of Príyā. Fought Perqū́nos in the
form of a serpent, Ṇchis, or Ṇgwis "snake").
Príyā (Wife of Welṇos, goddess of love, beauty, fertility, gardens,
summer, and youth) > Frigga, Priya, Priye, Frya
Dánu - Danu, Dānu (Wife of Áqōm Népot, goddess of rivers, healing, and prosperity, mother of tribes)
Dhéghōm Mā́tēr (Pḷtwyā́ Mā́tēr) - Demeter, Gaia, Zeme, Prithvi
Mater, Lelwani, Litavis, Mati Syra Zemlja, Žemyna (Mother goddess of the earth, plants, nature, fertility, motherhood, food, cooking, and agriculture, wife of Perqū́nos)
Wḷkānos - Vulcanus, Ulkan, Varcas, Velchanos (God of fire and Blacksmiths)
Pā́usōn - Pan, Pashupati, Puṣan, Faunus (psychopomp of the dead, God of the wild, part-man part goat, sings and dances)
Trī́tōn - Triton (Son of Ák w ōm Népot, god of the sea and sailors)
Álbhōs (Spirits of Nature) > Elves, Ṛbhu
○ Dréwyōs (Forest Spirits) > Dryads
○ Chédhruōs (Ḱorjōs) (Warrior spirits who accompany Perqū́nos, collecting the souls of those who die in battle)
○ Cháisōs (Mountain and Mist Spirits)
○ Chóndherwōs (Centaurs)
○ Nā́trīkēs (Ocean Spirits)
○ Néicēs/Néigwēs (Freshwater Spirits)
○ Serényéwes (Avenging furies, Sirens) > sirens, saranyas
● Mórinās (Snéntyās) (The three fates) “Weavers, Assignors,
Alloters” > Moiriai, Parcae, Norns
○ Ṛ́tā (Past) “Order” > Urðr
○ Wérontyā (Present) > Verðandi
○ Skólyā (Future) > Skuld
Récis/Régwis, Awónā (Flaming well that waters the g w īdoru, guarded by Áqōm Népots) “Deep place; Great Well”
Bhúdhmṇ/Mori (Underworld, land of the dead and the dhwṓsōs, the
sea) “bottom”
Dhwósōs (demons, outsiders)
○ Ǵéronts (Ferryman of souls to the underworld) “Old Man”
> Charon
○ Gā́gontes (Primeval giants, waged war against the Déiwōs)
○ Ḱeméros (giant bore who accompanies Ḱolyos)
○ Ḱérberos (Three headed giant dog who guards the underworld) ”Growler" > Cerberus, śarbala *k̑érberos
Ḱólyos (Goddess of death and the underworld) > Kalypso, Hel, Śarva(?)
With the afterlife, like the cycle of time, your soul get reincarnated after being in the underworld for some time (i.e. metempsychosis). And yes, both the bear, and the wolf, in Indo-European society were referred to by euphorisms because they believed if you said their names the animal would come after you. This also explains why Vikings raided while wearing the skin of a bear and acted like a bear. It was a way to overcome that fear. I am devoted to worshiping the Indo-European gods in their proto-form. Practices have been reconstructed to practice Proto-Indo-European religion. As for the creation myth, I have studied it, and made it poetic much like to that to the style of Ovid.
Deiwóns kṃti twéd esonti! (May the Gods be with you!) :)
halig shit! i loved reading it
and this is the first instance of me seeing some one use qeqlos instead of kwekwlos
Still doesn't matter to me at all because I'm agnostic but still, an very interesting read!
They out- performed the other groups, because of war and milk.
milk . They had the enzime to digest milk. 1 Litre of milk is 670 calories. By becoming yogurt, the bacteria eat lactose...meaning that the calories decrease..but digestiability increase.
So proto-indo-europeans children had better nutrion...meaning just by drinking 2 litre of milk per day..they had the necesary calories. Nobody could drink milk...but farmers could consume yogurt...and cheese ( they lost some of the calories in the process ) - the hunters-gathereres not even that.
So they had a evolution advantage - of having a grass-converter (livestock ) into calories...with highest efficiency possible for themself.
Livestock in agricultural societys was limited a resurces that could not feed 10.000 of people( a few cows here and there ) . But for PIE, livestock was able to feed a population on the move that was in constant war..with a better outcome regarding drought and soil depletion, and with the posibility to consume milk they got the maximum from it...( calories wise )
They probably had 8 -10 children per women and expanded at such a major ratio, waged war and dominated everyone that they encontered. By 10-15 generations they would have outbreed, killed and intermaried with everyone.
War was the factor that killed ( and maybe other ecological factors ) : Old Europe / Cututeni Civilization - and with the colapse of the agrarian civilization also the population that could offer resistance decresed.
Eventualy they intermingled and became the ancient populations that we know today. ( celts, latins, germans, thacians...etc ).
Horse milk and meat. And Kazakhs still eat horse meat and drink horse milk. There is an archeological site of so called Botai Culture in Norhern Kazakhstan where the remains of domesticated horses were found. Only of horses, not other domesticated animals. Also in pottery there were found the residue of horse milk. The Botai Culture dates 5000 years old.
Horse was and is the fastest moving domesticated animal. So those who domesticated the horse and consumed its meat and milk could move faster than those who had other domesticated animals.
@CCCP it might be convergant evolution. herding cultures may be more likely to evolve the trait since they rely more heavily on livestock than grains. blond hair evolved in melanesians completely seperately from europeans, so lactose tolerance isnt out of the question.
A vastly oversimplified and sloppy presentation. Some good ideas, but you need to think them through and involve a wider set of contributions, including archaeology, genetics, culture, etc. How did horses contribute? Are you much dependent on cattle, or were horses a multi-source of power, food, prestige and replacement? Are there other factors equal to your "lactose" theory?
Hmm now I understand why cow is so important even till now in north India
Damn
Subscribed on the strength of this one video. Thank you! I came looking for information on the culture of the P.I.E. people through linguistics & that's what I got!
I love discovering the echoes of these people in not only my language but also the smattering of other languages I have. Lots of "Of course!" moments... Hugely rewarding!
I liked watching your video very much! It points out many interesting aspects in my own language, which is Czech. I know that there is some recent esoteric-like movement around Slavic culture, but fact is, that Slavic languages preserved many interesting contexts from the past. You mentioned "bear" in Russian. In Czech it's the same- "medvěd" which actually mean "honey-knower". The root "věd" is very widesperad and important in Slavic languages with numerous connections. Czech language as an example-
Vědět (arch. věděti) - to know
Věda - science (see sanskrit "veda" - knowledge)
Vědění - knowledge
Vědomí - consciousness
Vědma - she enchanter, fortune teller (someone who 'knows' in spiritual sense)
. . . and many other words delivered from this root "ved" which seems to be proto IE. See for example famous celtic druids originating from *dru-wid - "tree-knowers" (in current Czech it would be "dře-věd" 😃 ). Although the Baltic languages are more archaic members of Balto-Slavic language branch, the Slavic ones preserved so much context and it makes them fun to learn - unlike languages with many loanwords you don't need to get explanation to every word, because you can trace their meaning by their context.
Cheers and keep going! 😃
Very interesting, thanks
The story of humanity and its separate cultures has always fascinated me, this is so amazing for me, your videos or so awesome, as a young adult I don't have much knowledge of these lesser known older histories that are highly debated but this is understandable, interesting, and educational. I just found your channel and you're awesome! Thank you
Always been interested on your view on genetics and Indo-Europeans.
The green screen is a bold move.
I'm Indo European Kurdish from Anatolia :))
Of Course Kurd Are IndoEuropen and Aryan Thats Are Not Turk Moghol Altai !
i am kurdish too and my haplogroup r1a- z93 Indo-European, hello brother!
Yes
Hello, distant brother! I have Anatolian in my DNA, but way back
I really like your channel. You take on parts of history less known. Deep time :) Very well done.
By the way the indo-european word GEYSEL as you said prisoner, in Dutch it means to take prisoner to want something in return for. Like a hostage.
thank u so much for this! I'm sick of being propagandized and rootless in the modern era
Really? You need to go back about 6 to 8 thousand years to feel rooted?
You don't make any sense.
@@jonathanrealman8415 Roots would imply the very beginning of your people so yeah I would say the Steppe and caucus mountain range is the root of Caucasians.
@@michaelkappa8081 but where did they come from before that? Why draw a line there?
Noah’s arc landed in the caucus mountains.
The bear taboo. Something I heard about from my father some fifteen years ago and ever since that, I'm fascinated with it.
Lovely video. Our history is soo amazing!
Found many similiarities between my language here, Lithuanian, the oldest Indo European language still spoken in Europe today. Koros - karas (war), kory - kariai (soldiers), ikis - akis (eye, Sanskrit), ignis - ugnis (fire), and so on. Interestingly, similiarities still remain in words that were relevant in such ancient times like to describe conflics and war, basic tools, body, dieties. Interesting stuff.
ignis is fire in latin, oculus, eye
Agni is sanskrit for fire
we indian don't use sanskrit anymore, We know few words of sanskrit because it have many similarity with indian languages like - bengali , hindi etc.
slavic/russian says ogun(fire). it also means same in hindi/bengali - agun/agni(fire).
brother in law DEVER- devor(india language)
oh , ikis - akis (eye, Sanskrit), we indian(bengali) use this words,
*sound like mongol or turkish or hungarian to me, these words you mention ya akhiy*
As an Iranian: you are on point: friend. 👏🏻
Hope fire will rise again.
Iran forever.
@James F If you are not Iranian don’t tell them what to be free of because we’ve had enough of being told what to do by white people, thank you.
Zoroastrian from India here. Heil Zoroaster!
@@human8454 someone got kicked too by the British. Still love India
❤️ from india azizam
This is the sort of topic I want to start spending my life studying someday, thank you for sharing this information.
I love my milk and beer drinking cart driving ancestors! DNA U152
LivingHistorySchool milk is good
i love my finno-ugric ancestors!
Milk is bad for the bones. Dutch people who consume tons of dairy break bones alot. Belgians, who consume less, much less. This is because of the acidity that milk creates in the blood.
@@mahakalabhairava9950 But it also allows you to grow more so it doesnt matter.
@@MrCristianposso Grow fat, maybe... 😂
Rktos reminds me of the l'os - the French for bear - also the word Arctic. Dyeus reminds me of Zeus - as I think you said, plus Dios and Dieu, the Spanish and French words for God respectively. Heryos may be the cognate of Aryan but it also reminds me of heir, as in descendant, a similar idea to kinsman. This is an immensely interesting video, and thank you for making it, and I say this as a relative newcomer to linguistics. The only thing I'd say is that your (undoubtedly lovely) face hid a lot of the maps and charts in the video for a lot of the time, and maybe you could remedy that in the future. This is the first of your videos I've seen though, so you may have sorted that by this time - January 2019. Thank you so much for the video!
Love the synths man, your stories are great
Intelligent and well constructed video.
Your content is MINT Love the channel!
I've got examples of possibly related words to the examples at the 8 minute in the video.
These are from southern slavic languages:
Sprd - identical word with different meaning : A parody, usually used to refer to funny plays. (Perhaps the culture was more nuanced and they didn't just compete with racing and fighting).
Kwoyneh - Klanje : Slaughter (pretty easy to connect the dots)
Gwous - Gvozde/Gvozdže/Gvozdenje : Iron chains which were used to tie cattle and prisoners.
Ghosti and wihon are pretty much identical just written differently.
I'd like to mention how i realized that the Slavic Indo-European branch has some striking similarities with Sanskrit,and even Proto Indo European that you referenced some words from.Like for example : Ghosti ( Guest / Host ) in Southern Slavic languages Gosti means Guest-s and Gost means Guest.Just a bit of a fun fact,i am no linguist but there it is.
"Medved" is the one who knows (where the) honey (is). "Med" is the honey in most slavic languages and "ved" is related to knowledge like "Vede", Hindu (holy?) books that basically mean "knowledge".
In south Slavic languages, bear is translated as "medvjed". As you see very similar to Russian and probably to other Slavic languages. But I always thought that it means "the one who eats honey" because "med" = "honey" and "jed" = "to eat" (roughly).
Interesting thing nonetheless
Could this be related to the Madhi?
@@aaroniouse I think miód, med and other variants of honey in Slavic languages might be related etymologically to Madhu, Madhi. -wiedź, -ved part is about knowledge, not eating.
Ivo Gregurec in swedish ” vet”= know
In Slovak Medved means Bear
Very nicely explained. I've also heard that the spread of the Proto Indo Europeans can be partially explained by the emergence of the genetic mutation that allowed for the digestion of milk thus greatly favouring children's survival into adulthood.
Thanks for the videos.
I have always assumed lactose tolerance evolved due to strong natural selection against malnutrition.
Between you and Cregonford, i’m learning a lot. thanks :) 🌷🌱
Very high quality videos. Thank you. However regarding the wheel: the oldest wheel to date was found in what is now Slovenia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ljubljana_Marshes_Wheel It is 5000 years old. Found near Ljubljana which is subalpine region of the country.
Awesome video StJ. And i'am really holding back in saying that.
Maby a nice fact to add on how common bears probably were in these lands. In Xanten Germany they unearthed a Roman city and with that the foundation of a Roman Amfitheater (gladiator arena) which they rebuild and also can be seen. Go there, really. Anyways they also found a stone "manuscript" which read they catched fifty adult bears in six weeks for a tournament within the surrounding area that is the forests among the rhine river. imagine that without modern technologie in 6 weeks. And this was around the end of the first century AD, which is much later. Anyways looking forward to you next vid, great stuff!
Absolutely prosperous video as always, heryos!
15:24 lol'd :-D
Buddy Rojek l2 Gloria
I don't think you can make those links. They sound more like folkloric explenations than credible ones supported by facts.
In andere woorden, volgens mij slaan je ideëen op weinig .
Ferdian Tanjung Mandahiling Koto yes, he forgets Slavs connections in his videos (however great) he mentions just "Occidentaux"
rizferd. As some one who believes in the pedo prophet who flew to heaven on a winged goat, your beliefs are all stupid
Brilliant work my friend,thanyou,best wishes
Watching: "Who were the Proto-Indo-Europeans?" at 4 a.m.
My family: Sleeps
Me: Oh, thats a good question
In Hinduism, the Sun (Mitra/Surya), and the Moon (Soma/Chandra) are both male.
just when you said cattle in creation i had a moment of clarity, in Norse mythology all water on earth came from the utters of a cow, and in Hinduism cows are very important, those are the two least similar and geographically most distant branches of the family connect, by super cows
holy cow
i find it fascinating that there are fairly direct ties between Hinduism and Norse mythology. As a former History major and Anthropology Minor, I won't say that I was completely unaware of the distant Indo-European connections, but I would have still seen those two systems as still fairly distant. And while nobody is suggesting that they're identical, the fact that they serve as a joint guide to the early belief systems is nonetheless amazing. While those two parts of the world might seem fairly remote, this video, among other things, clarifies why certain parts of the world are more closely related than what might otherwise be thought. Much will be taken from this video, but that might be my most notable aspect.
Cows are perfect animals for surveillance, they know perfectly that
so were "indians" miscegenated or did they just evolve to the climate
@@algonzalez6853 The modern Indians were formed from admixture between the Proto-Indo-Europeans who migrated into the subcontinent & the Dravidian peoples of the Indus valley civilization.
Ironically, neither were the first people group in the subcontinent, that would be the old Indian hunter-gatherers, some of whom are still around today in a manner of speaking. They're called Aadivasi peoples (literally meaning old inhabitants)
Excellent job on this video man. You've educated me on this subject. Very cool to see from where I people came.
The quality of the Jive Survivor's content is matched by the comments. Kudos to all.
11:00 finally Slavs connection in Indoeuropean History 😀 good point
Cimbri-Kurds.
Hey man would you be able to recommend a good genetic testing company? I am afraid to go with ancestry or 23andme because they own your genetic info.
First video ive seen and I already subscribed few mins in!!!
Great video mate. Thanks a lot.
Also, if you want traces of the I-E creation myth and cattle, there is a Perun myth about his cattle being stolen by Veles which he then goes to retrieve because he is a warrior god who is not to be messed with, and since Veles is a shapeshifter who can take animal forms he causes trouble. There is also a story about Perun killing a giant serpent in the mountains which is related as well. But you probably know that because Thor does the same thing.
Another interesting fact is the Vales is also called ''skotiyi bog/stočni bog'' meaning the ''cattle god'', and his name is related linguistically to Völsi, the Nordic fertility, phallus cult which I believe is also related to cattle and horses.
There is the story of Parshuram in the Vedic/Hindu mythology, who was a Brahmin. His father's cow 'Kamadhenu' was stolen by the pompous Kshatriyas of the kingdom and he(Parshuram) took a vow to kill the undeserving Kshatriyas. He retrieved the Kamadhenu and killed the undeserving warrior tribes(around 21 or 21 times i guess).
Two almost same religions...but in Slaws we have AllGod or Svarog. Svarog is the supreme incorporeal god, the primordial creator of the bright sky under whose roof "everything is born and happens." He is the forefather of the earth and every "kind and fruit", that is, everything on earth, but also the creator of the entire universe. This god was considered by all Slavs to be "full of glory and divinity" because he governs the sky that is above and beyond everything, yet includes everything. Svarog sleeps and in his sleep he created this world which he entrusted to Perun and the other gods to guard and keep the world. He cannot directly affect the physical, material environment he dreams of, but he can therefore influence the will of the other gods, and this is where his influence is enormous. His awakening will mark the end of the world. Alternative names: Rod and Usud. Ragnarok.
hah 'gosti' in Slavic also means guests haha the exact same word
Gäst in swedish
gazda,
gazdui, gazduit, gazduire, gazdoie..gazdoi...in romanian
@@trakuraul5370 wait, that Romanian word is probably not the same one. Are you 100% sure?
"gazda" means boss or master. And it's not Indo-European.
@@ras573 more corect pronuntiation is ,,gaszda" and mean... house master ..... , gas(zd)padar
@@ras573 gazda from slavic language. mean master.
Survive the Jive I enjoy a lot of your content I can tell you & me have common interests.
So many words recognizable in Dutch, German, English or Latin. Fascinating, thank you.
Great explanation! Helped me a lot
glad to see a tukish guy here
I like your content, never thought I would say this about a far-right channel but you're a very respectful guy with a lot of knowledge of stuff that is very interesting so I'm going to keep binge watching your videos, I don't really care about your leanings, you're cool and respectful
What exactly about this is far right?
@@moonchild6392 the channel? have you checked the channel's owner's bio?
@@Edwinvet420 no, where can I see that? Would be a pity, I really liked the videos I watched so far
@@Edwinvet420 what about his bio is a normal bio this got nothing to do with far right
@@francoisdaureville323 you really don't know who this guy is??????? Look him up
Thank you for this video. It gave me a new insights on understanding Indo European culture.
Good stuff. Loved this one
My name is armin(arian) from iran (the land of ariyans) and i speak Persian(a direct descendent of Avestan) i have a bronze skin color with pitch black hairs and large black eyes, i don't look northern european yet i am proud of my indo-european ancestors :)
go watch some david reich videos...
Persian is not descended from avestan. They are from different branches of the iranic language family
@@BigMoney398 you are right. Persian is not a direct descendant of Avestan,more like a sibling
Hi my persian brother, with jan from Armenia(land of arian people)
@PhasedPlasmaRifle InThe40WattRangeno my friend, ancient middle east was almost a 100% Semitic before the Iranian tribes arrived. Summerians, Babylonians Akkadians were all Semitic people. The only middle Eastern people who weren't Semitic were the Elamites.
And yes I am probably mixed. The Iranian people are a mix of indo European, Semitic(not necessarily Arabic but also Babylonians Assyria etc), Turkic(they have immigrated to iran in many waves) and even some Mongolic(Mongol soldiers and their families who settled here)
Please try to do a video on The Runes and explain what you can about them.
You're archeological knowledge is very interesting.
Amazing research. Great presentation. Good form
Just few modern Hindi words straight from proto indo European with exact meaning.
gwous - gaus - cow ( cattle )
sprd - Spardha - contest
archit sharma arabic has gamous/jamous for cow.
Govs in Latvian
@@ahmedzs1 arabic is afro asiatic, not indo european
@@FLMKane there is a bigger family that links afro-asiatic with indo-European through a bigger family called Nostratic family.
@@ahmedzs1 Cite a reference because I dont believe that off the cuff.
Something came to mind when you mentioned the IE root word Heryos and that other words besides Aryan may derive from it. Do you think it's possible "heritage" and "inherit" are examples of this?
Curious about the bear worship and euphemisms possibly being derived from contact with Uralic peoples, or perhaps an earlier ANE component. Avoiding the name of sacred/feared/revered animals is a common trait in Finno-Ugric languages, not limited to bears. In Hungarians "szarvas" is the word for deer which derives from "horned one", "farkas" for wolf meaning "tailed one". Northern Sami use the word "sarva" to refer to Moose/Elk with the same root for deer in Hungarian. I know this trait is present in Komi and Ob-Ugric languages as well, I do not yet know if this trait is present in Samoyedic or other Siberian languages (but bear worship certainly is).
I'm not sure if the bear euphemism is present in indo-european languages other than those you mentioned, but they all stem from around the baltic sea and as such would have had extensive contact with Uralic groups, especially Finns and Sami. Russians in particular have heritage from a lot of assimilated Finno-Ugric tribes, and the Nordic peoples certainly have had plenty of contact with Finnic groups and cultural exchange.
Bear cults are common across north Eurasia from the Finns to Khanty to Nganasan to the Nivkh and Ainu. All these groups have notable ANE heritage, so it could go that far back, or possibly be from more recent migrations and cultural exchange....
Very interesting, but I wish you hadn't mentioned the "bear" word. Now I am nervous every time I walk outside!
My father gave me The Horse the Wheel and Language at age 14. Fascinating stuff. Drove an interest in indo-europeans
Interesting words at 8:20 , I can relate them to Sanskrit -
1. Bahvasav -> Breuh -> to make beer (asav)
2. Goshthi - > Ghosti -> to discuss in group
3. Gaus/Gau -> Gwous -> Cows ( cattle)
4. Spardha -> Sprd -> to compete
5. Vaik/Viz/Vansa (विश्) -> Weik -> Clan/lineage
6. Vaikpati - > Weik-potis -> Head of Clan
But I am unable to relate Heryos with Aryas.
Was Aachaarya ViShNudutta ChaaNakya black ? I am confused to this question.
@@asheeshkumar1424 them eurocentric and afrocentric fools be driven me crazy!
Indians are not Indo european they just speak the language. Indo europeans were not dark brown.
@@alzicario3466 how was the language brought to india tho?
@@Concerned_one by migrations, the indo Aryans became the ruling class in South Asia through superior technology and that’s why the caste system exists. Most modern Indians don’t have their blood, they just speak their language. Although Higher caste Indians have significant Aryan dna. The original Aryans were pale, with colored hair and colored eyes like the kalash, nuristanis and many Pashtuns today.
Noticing others in the comments (before finishing the video) discuss "medved" the Slavic word for "bear" had me thinking it's the original Indo-European word till I watched at 15:00.
I almost thought Punjabi derived a completely different word from elsewhere but we also conserved "rtkos" as ਰਿੱਛ or rech (sounds like wretch but the ch sounds more like a Polish "cz"). So it's not just Latin or Greek, I'd say the Sanskrit based one derives it best between the 3.
Learning a lot, glad I subsribed.
Would be interesting to see all the europaen groups at the chart (from 3:39 onwards). Big parts are missing, for example Germany, Poland, Denmark, Romania .
Yeah that list annoys me. Seen it a few times already asking the same question everytime. Why would you leave those huge regional parts out. Makes no sence.
Re: "tewteh" or "people" survives in the Irish word "tuatha" meaning "tribe" or "people." Famously, the Irish pantheon is called Tuatha Dé Danaan, or the tribe of the goddess Danú. Her name is cognate with dána meaning "art" and may also be related to the English word "dawn," indicating the basic sun-moon-stars consciousness that prompts many religions.
Arent there stories of cattle raids in the Ulster Cycle?
"Tauta" in Lithuanian and Latvian for "nation".
Brendan Keane Also, Dutch/Deutsch seems to related to tewteh.
It is directly related.
Kuno Meyers worked on Germanic-Celtic connections before his work was interrupted by the World Wars. The sounds "th" and "d" are approximations of each other and give rise to "deus" and "theus" for example. It makes sense that "deutsch" and "tuatha" are connected. The connection of "germaine" and "German" or "frank" and "French" indicates to me a tendency whereby a language was once a sort of priesthood. Priests often call their association "bright ones" or "illuminated" or "truth seekers" or some such variation. The Irish for example refer to an "iris" and Gael means "glow" or "brightness." The Scots are named for "scoth" or "blossom" in Gaelic.
I really like this video this was really cool. One more thing though is that in the vedic writings there is also mention of a sky father, he is dyauspitr. So that is also a cultural derivative.
Made a video about that
@@Survivethejive Oh cool! I’ll check that out. Thanks mate!
Just listing a few of the PIE words you mention here that seem to me to have "descendants" in modern Albanian:- wed - lidh (tie, join, can be used of entering a relationship with someone)- wedno - dhëndër (bridegroom, son-in-law)- snusos - nuse (bride, daughter-in-law, even wife) - ghosti - gosti (feast, banquet, when you invite many people for a large celebration with food and drinks)- gwous - gjë (sometimes used to mean domesticated animals)- kwoyneh - kanun (a huge guess here, but it could be the word from which our Kanun - the unwritten tribal law still in place in mountainous areas - comes from. The Kanun deals a lot with the laws for revenge, among other regulations.)- potis - we have a verb "shpotis", which means to tease, taunt, etc. not necessarily in a lighhearted manner. It might have an origin in the concept of trying to lower a man's (chief's) status by ridiculing them. (The "sh" prefix is regularly used in Albanian to mean the undoing of something expressed by the rest of the word.)- tewteh - Teuta, the Illyrian queen, is said to have had her name derive from this word. Her name was probably a title or a representation of all the tribe/people in the queen/king.
interesting topic! It always amazes me to find similarities between russian, swedish and italian...
Indo Europeans had a military advantage due to their larger tribal networks derived from a more mobile lifestyle developed in the western steppes. Essentially that meant that they where able to muster larger armies than their opponents could which was always a big help in winning battles. Later, superior chariot and horse warfare played a bigger factor than 'the network'.
What was Indo European population and why they had to migrate?.
Now i have new perspective on it linguistically thanks to you.
Hey, StJ. Big fan since you were a quite smaller channel. I remember a video of yours, where you debunked a Nature genetic study concerning the "mythical" origins of the neo-Greeks from the Mycenaeans. I can't seem to find it. Any idea on which of your videos it was? If there's none, would you mind elaborating on the subject of genetic similarity (or not) between ancient and neo-Greeks? If you have any videos on that matter, could you point me specifically?
Thanks for your work. All the best.
Considering a lot of people disliked this clearly proves your point about this topic being controversial.
Btw, that was not a hate comment.
Yes it is
They are mostly acceptable by modern historians.
The problem is the American theories about "CaUcAiAnS" ect that were written in 19century and peopel STILL use those terms and support these theories!
You're free to do a research of course..
Dislikes are from envious Joggers/Shitlibs/Chews etc
@@maerythegreek9008 I know, I wasn’t disagreeing.
I would like to hear your thoughts on the Basque people. Why are they so different linguistically from other Europeans? Also, what happened to the pre Celtic people of Britain that built Stonehenge? How much of their DNA is in modern Brits? Thanks for your videos.
The Basque language is a relic and language isolate from the Neolithic (before the Indo-European invasions). However, the Basques are mostly R1b on the male side, which is an Indo-European marker, but for some reason they retained their old Neolithic language. It is rare for the females of a tribe to retain their native language when dominated by foreign males, but it is not unheard of. Why exactly the Basque language survived after being dominated by IE males is unknown. Many theories out there.
As for Britain, we know that Stonehenge is about 4,000 years old (this is the estimate most scholars seem to agree on today). Stonehenge is similar to other megalithic monuments built all over Western Europe at the time which implies a cultural continuity throughout western Europe. In other words, the people of Stonehenge Britain were probably very closely related to people all over Western Europe (not just culturally, but genetically).
A paper was published just a month or so ago focusing on the genetics of the Bell Beaker people of Central and Western Europe and how they fit into the demographics of Europe. The Bell Beaker people were prominent in Europe starting about 2700 BCE and disappeared in about 1800 BCE. Their culture was prominent in Britain just as it was on the continent. The question this paper wanted to answer was who were the Bell Beakers genetically?Were they Neolithic farmers or Yamnaya (Indo-European) or some combination of both? It turns out they were mostly Yamnaya (Steppe) according to DNA (and they sampled almost 100 ancient skeletons). I will quote you a portion of the abstract of the paper:
"However, human migration did have an important role in the further dissemination of the Beaker Complex, which we document most clearly in Britain using data from 80 newly reported individuals dating to 3900-1200 BCE. British Neolithic farmers were genetically similar to contemporary populations in continental Europe and in particular to Neolithic Iberians, suggesting that a portion of the farmer ancestry in Britain came from the Mediterranean rather than the Danubian route of farming expansion. Beginning with the Beaker period, and continuing through the Bronze Age, all British individuals harboured high proportions of Steppe ancestry and were genetically closely related to Beaker-associated individuals from the Lower Rhine area. We use these observations to show that the spread of the Beaker Complex to Britain was mediated by migration from the continent that replaced >90% of Britain's Neolithic gene pool within a few hundred years, continuing the process that brought Steppe ancestry into central and northern Europe 400 years earlier."
What this is saying is that Britain PRIOR to the Bell Beakers was mostly of Neolithic farmer heritage, similar to most of continental Europe (especially Iberia). However, when the Beakers came in, they replaced 90% of the British gene pool in only a few hundred years. This is astounding, yet DNA doesn't lie.
As for Stonehenge, I suspect it was built just before the Steppic (IE) invasions into Britain. Why? Because the Yamnaya people never built megaliths on the Steppes or anywhere in Eastern Europe. This appears to be wholly a Neolithic farmer phenomenon. However, the Bell Beakers were already in Britain at the time Stonehenge was supposedly built, so either the dating of Stonehenge is wrong OR the Bell Beakers adopted some of the cultural practices of the native Neolithic Brits.
Hiponakte no it isnt, R1b-M269 was found in nearly all yamnaya remains and was brought into western Europe by them. The R1b found in Europe prior to the IE invasions was R1b-V88, a much older subclade.
Mathia Porrus 90% of it was replaced by beaker peoples, the DNA doesn't lie I'm afraid. Northern Europeans have far more IE DNA.
Afghan Lion yes it is, and funnily enough no R1a was found in PIE yamnaya, only R1b
@@JohnSmith-ys4nl The Basque language survived because of their strong-willed women and their mostly forced isolation. And quite a bit of inbreeding.
Cheers Very informative. Any revised recent edition of this? Too much echo on speech.
What a great Video... Thank you so mouch...! I have one Question: The Mythologie you talking about (Dyaus Pitar...) is from the RgVeda right?
other way around. Dyaus Pitar's name is derived from the same name as Jupiter and Zeus and Tyr
Personally I'd be really interested if you could do a video about the proto-indo-european bear cult. That sounds fascinating
About wolves and bears: in Romania in some mountainous areas amongst the shepherds one would avoid to call the predators by the name because it is believed that doing so it is as you want to sacrifice something to them and they would come and take their share
IN ROMANIA AND OTHER RUSSIAN TERRITORIES, BEARS ARE CAGED IN AWFUL CONDITIONS AND USED FOR CHEAP ENTERTAINMENT, CHAINED, AND MAL FED ETC. CHINA ALSO HAS A TERRIBLE RECORD AGAINST THE TREATMENT OF BEARS TAKING THEIR BILE FROM THEIR LIVER FOR HEALTH.
Ron Walker Romania is not Russian territory, moron.
@@johnkilrainblackstone6986 obviously not, but how bears are mistreated is more important than Ron's geographical shortcomings.
@kristian rikardsen they do indeed
In Scandinavia as well, to the point where the original Germanic/PIE-descended word for wolf ("ulf/ulv") was replaced by "varg" (criminal) and then "gråben" (grey legs).
Did I detect a sliver of Burzum there?
Great video by the way, very interesting subject.
awesome video!
I've got to say, I'm a simple man. I see an STJ video, I like.
Never thought of it as a meme, but I guess it is. I really don't know where it comes from.
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The not naming the bear story is the same among old Alaska natives. Athabascan and Denina people would just refer to bears as big animals. A similar way of dealing with bears as the Aryan. Perhaps.
If I'm not mistaken both Indo-Europeans and Native Americans descend from ANE (Ancient North Eurasians), could be a myth dating back to that time before the split.
Thank you for this!
Wreg is interesting. It seems to be similar in general meaning to rig. From the context of a vehicle you take into the bush. It's reserved for anything that is used to get the job done. 4 wheeler, Snowmachine,trucks,jeeps,18 wheelers are all rigs. Now if you put a wench and a wrack on a hatchback hauling a boat you could call it a rig. You drive it and you can strap things to it, but also haul with it.
Would love to see you do a video on the r1b and r1a haplogroup division that causes much autistic screeching in our circles. Would like to see how you think it correlates with Aryan people's and whether r1b has a claim to Aryan status or not. I havnt seen anyone tackle this properly and I believe you are the man for the task
R1b does have a claim to proto-Aryan status (and a strong one at that). It was present in both the early PIE Samara culture and in the late PIE Yamnaya culture. Check out this paper (Haak et al. 2015, "Massive migration from the steppe is a source for Indo-European languages in Europe"):
biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/02/10/013433
It took a long time before this conclusion was reached (or, rather, before the evidence was uncovered). 15 years ago, it was believed to have been natively ice age western European. 5 years ago, it was believed to be a mediterranean late Neolithic farmer lineage.
Every subclade within R1b originated in the steppes. A recent study (Mathieson et al. 2017) found R1b-V88, the earliest branch to split off from R1b, in a man from Mesolithic Ukraine. Today, this lineage is almost exclusively found in Central Africans, meaning that ancient steppe tribes migrated all the way to subsaharan Africa. It bears mentioning that this man was overall very genetically similar to the EHG ancestors of the proto-Indo-Europeans, who lived in the same area.
Western Man forgot I1
Western Man
I am Iranian, my haplogroup is consisted of 23% R1a and 32% R1b and 15% G2
Afghan Lion r1b is IE
@@swevixeh The outline you linked to has none of what you just mentioned in it.
But it does say this though,
""the Yamnaya steppe herders of this time were descended not only from the preceding eastern European hunter-gatherers, but from a population of Near Eastern ancestry.""
So it's miscegenated immigrants of near Eastern Descent that you're claiming as Aryan.
You seem a little bit deluded and not true to your racist ideals.
Right below an Iranian proved to be of those types.
Do you look like a fucking Iranian? No, you look like an ugly barbarian with recessive genes, desperate to claim other cultures as yours while disparaging the real people those cultures belong to.
since PIE is a reconstructed lang, how do you exclude the possibility of contaminating it with our (modern or otherwise anachronistic) meanings of the words, interpretations and language practices?
Great video, mate. I study things from a very Hiberno-centric perspective. Your video really made sense of the larger perspectives on genetic makeup for me. For example, my DNA is about 50% WHG, 40% EWF, 10% Yamnaya, I am 7/8 Irish/Ulster Scots, and 1/8 Welsh/Cornish though the niece of Bishop William Weathers. Personally, I believe the Yamnaya represent the Tuatha De Danann of Irish history, the EWF the Milesians, and the WHG either the Fomorians or the Fir Bolg, though currently my money's on the Fomorians presently. First I have heard of this Bear religion.
Some interesting facts. Bear bones with marks from being butchered by humans have been found in the North of Ireland dating to 12,500 YBP. This is the first evidence of human habitation of Ireland. Bears obviously brought over by boat along by the WHG to Ireland are most closely related to Spanish bears, unless the bears themselves somehow migrated from Spain. I am quite certain that the Yamnaya and the EWF arrived in Ireland at about the same time, and that the EWF are from probably a pre-Yamnaya or proto-Yamnaya culture, possibly more Western than Eastern oriented.
In any event, in the yDNA group my own DNA is a part of (DF-21), three of the six major groups are associated with the three sons of Queen Meadhbh of Connacht and Fergus mac Roich of Ulster, and two of the other three with contemporaries of their in the Tain Bo Cuailgne i.e. the Seven Septs of Laois descended from Conall Cearnach. The Tain is impossible to date, but popularly thought to have occurred in the first century B.C.E. However, all these SNPs diverged about 4000 YBP. Is it possible that the Tain Bo Cuailgne dates to 2000 B.C.E. ? Ireland has the oldest history of any European country, and the oldest written history of any country except Greece and Rome. In my opinion, the Tain may describe a sort of culture clash between the Yamnaya, and their eventual conquerors in Ireland, the Milesians. From the context of the stories, it would seem that the Milesians arrived in Ireland (or possibly rose to prominence having already been resident) shortly after the invasion of the Yamnaya/Tuatha De Danann (i.e. Rathlin 1, 2 & 3) and that the three kings of the Tuatha De Danann defeated by the sons of Milesius were likely either Conmac, Corc, and Ciar, or their near descendants.