Dont become too myopic when looking into these complexes. Many people overlap with various traits of many of them, and that we would call relatively normal. They exist in isolation as data points, used by a psychologist or psychiatrist to give him indicators when looking for neuroses that are damaging to the self and others. There's no 'un-cracked' eggs in this world, it is a world of pain where breakage is designed to create growth, but also sometimes creates rotten eggs.
@darkwyzard in actual fact the gazelle doesn't suffer half as much as you're assuming. Firstly, animals don't prolonge suffering for a kill, nature is efficient, intending to expend the least energy necessary, the lion goes straight for the quickest kill by squeezing in the jugular with full force. Secondly, something humans forget or don't realise is, in a fight for your life you don't experience suffering nearly as much as a slow, agonising death through disease or torture. In fact, there's a form of exhilaration as the body is in a state of heightened awareness where the spirit is less attached to the body. You're quite right to say that this physical earth is the plane of suffering, but it's not the only plane we exist on, so of course if you're heavily invested in 'what exists physically' only, you are going to heighten the suffering aspect of what you experience. Childbirth is painful as hell! Blood everywhere, sweat, exhaustion and difficulty, but we celebrate what that suffering leads to. It takes a reduction in self-importance to see beauty through all the suffering, and human emotional suffering is merely a self imposed lesson for the higher part of ourselves.....
@darkwyzard when you say that pain teaches nothing, this come from a viewpoint that only intellectual understanding has value. Our suffering comes from a feeling of being deserving of better conditions than what we experience, but there's nothing whatsoever to validate that expectation, other than the story we tell ourselves in our heads. This reality is all about splitting into pairs, its a dichotomy, a paradox at its very core. Everything breaks and splits in order for the sperate pieces to grow into more than they were before. Look at cell division and cell death, we don't hold a funeral for the thousands of skin cells that died on our feet yesterday, nor do we wince when we see a tree being chopped down, but we think it's awful when one chimp pulls the limbs off another, it's a matter of perspective. Trees can be shown to react on an EEG machine when a person burns their leaves, in fact, they react again if that same person simply 'thinks'of burning the leaves again! Showing that plant life is possibly more sensitive to its environment than fauna, so it's all a matter of perspective....
This is my father! He was very shy around women and had his first relationship with a woman (my mother) when he was fifty years old. Growing up, he talked about how much he loved his mother as though he worshipped her. At the same time, he hated many women on the street. Whenever he saw young women on the street wearing summer dresses, booty shorts, or crop tops, commented about how they were "sluts" and either looked disgusted, uncomfortable, or incredulous. These women in their 20s have a huge affect on him even though he is now in his 70s. I never knew why, but now I understand that he has a mother complex. Thank you to this video!
... instead of the standard wholesale ignorance to psychology and the nature of the unconscious that's at the very f'n root of the problems we face both individually and collectively. Also the core means by which marketing & PR - propaganda - unconsciously manipulates us via groupthink & group dynamics at the level of instincts & emotion. That can't be by accident.
She just described me to the letter. Grew up with a single mother, kind of sheltered, no friends... Now I'm an incel, simultaneously bitter towards and worshipful of women. I hate myself...
Don't hate yourself. It's ok. If you're an incel you're not hurting anyone but yourself. You want to grow, right? It's a good thing. Good relationships are more complex than those "successful" people will ever tell you, because then they'll let you know they're also weak. ❤
The impact on me has to have been for the most part voluntarily celibate. Growing up in a dysfunctional household put the fear of intimacy and relationships into me. A form of social anxiety. In one instance a woman has actually tried to wrap me and I honestly wouldn't have minded but I had to resist due to being terrorized in my childhood. It does result in a kind of phobia of women and not the political type. It's like the kind of fear that sweeps through you when wasps are flying around too closely and erratically. You just have to get away.
@@moggadah I personally don't need it. I have introspective personality disorder (this is a bit of a joke but I am prone toward intense self examination). If others need it then can see someone. I personally like to help by using my ability to express my own predicament well to help those through example who might not. Sharing is caring. I could keep myself to myself but then by not talking of these kinds of personal ailments I also keep certain other things to myself that might be beneficial to others. There is a point that I do raise though implication. Many involuntarily celebrate are people unfairly socially rejected though there is also a situation where it may then become more voluntary than appreciated. If you get over the involuntary part such as by investing in yourself to raise your value and also seeking out visibility the voluntary part still often remains. Simply dropping the "in" is not all there is to it. I would argue when I was socially rejected and ostracised as a kid that was quite close to being in the involuntary stage. You may not realise if circumstances have changed. You may even if you make yourself worthy feel unworthy.
I believe you just have expectations of what a mother/wife is due to experiencing it only from your own mother. My mum never drank beer. So in college seeing girls drinking pints of beer to me a while to not think was strange.
What you're saying is that you don't see women outside of the boxes of mother or wife..... you don't see them simply as people aren't somehow serving a role in a man or child's life. You expect single women with no kids to behave as your mother.
Does not all men have this? This is how sexualiy functions, I say. It's the same way how women need to feel safe with a man while also needing to feel dominated by him.
This is also known as the "Madonna-Whore Complex" and can also be caused by excessive porn use. Because in porn you are solely getting off to the visual stimulation of the sexual act without the emotional elements present in real sexual encounters which then makes it harder to connect on an emotional level to a woman during sex.
its your prime right now,. love the process of becoming a better version, have a relationship with the universe instead of a fixed person. dont by blinded by those fairytales, all these Friends shows, everybody lacks this void,- but its just filled with your self not with people. ✌️ peace 🕊️
you found your way to this video, so you've done some good work already. it means you've seen the immaturity, you've made the unconscious conscious. the only thing you need to do is to remain curious about yourself, try to understand and be compassionate with yourself, and it will naturally unravel.
Makes me think of the bible and studying Mary, scholars have wondered if there were many Mary's or only one. It leads me to wonder if it alludes to bringing together the split of the ego to form and heal our child/Christ self. The virgin mary vs the prostitute Mary that was redeemed. Idk, I could be reaching but it speaks on many levels as does every verse in the Bible.
I have a dyadic anima. I know a few men who do. All share a sort of issue with their mothers...typically a neglectful, hateful or just otherwise unavailable mother. Typically, in my own dreams and those of my friends they are a split between light and dark animas. At the beginning of my analysis these were often amalgamated into a single dream character.... sometimes teasing and playful and other times scornful and cruel. Almost always unavailable and rarely making consistent appearances. During the course of analysis, i gradually identified a core issue as a negative mother complex leading to CPTSD then i understood that one of my central tasks was to parse apart my anima from that of my negative mother complex. Over time, this single character morphed into a light anima and a dark anima. I assumed this to mean that the light was the Sophia image and the dark was the isis soulful earth woman. Since my given path was one of down rather than up (Hillman's vales rather than peaks)...a path of one of ensoulment and embodiment (as opposed to spiritual enlightenment or wisdom/knowledge)...i assumed that the dark would be the anima and therefore represent the embodied path...esp since i had a marked real world attraction to dark haired women.... however in my own case since my mother was a dark haired woman it took me years to understand that this assumption was the wrong one. In my own case, the light anima represented the path of ensoulment (anima) and that dark was the negative mother complex. That was in year seven. So all this to say that if you're dealing with this be open to different possibilities. Might save you some time.
Do you think it's possible for someone with a split anima to have difficulties in choosing a path for his own life? I have felt for a long time divided in two parts, like day and night, and can't commit to either path consistently since the pull of the other is quite strong. I also have cptsd and sometimes the crises feels like I'm completely taken or possessed by a very dark force, full of rage, shame and guilt... maybe the dark anima?
@@icovarrubias mostly likely this is about the shadow rather than a split anima... of course i you have a negative mother complex it's possible that feeds into a pronounced shadow....rage, shame, guilt. I think a negative anima typically results in issues of emptiness or a lack of energy or libido rather than the strong emotions that you mention here. Typically the anima has more to do with finding one's calling...which yes, if you don't have access to the anima easily then results in a sort of ambivalence moving forward....but the problem with a negative mother complex (if your mother wasn't terribly nuturing or downright abusive) is that it can be pervasive in it's impact. However, in Jungian analysis you typically deal with the shadow side of the ego first and then go for the anima which has typically something to do with moving forward after that... finding fulfillment and joy. But with a negative mother complex it can be very elusive.
Circumcision damages the maternal infant bond and leads to ANIMA issues in men. Over a million boys are psycho sexually violently attacked and mutilated each year in the USA. No wonder so many of American men and these ABRAHAMIC people are so WAR LIKE and overly sensitive and they WORSHIP WOMEN but also LASH OUT AT OTHER WOMEN VICIOUSLY.
@@FirstLast-rb5zj yah, it's a matter of getting used to the Jungian way of thinking. Basically, once we understand the way the brain frames things is according to symbols and complexes (symbol clusters) according to personalities... it's how we interact as individuals... it's unsurprising that these complexes present as sub personalities. Dream images are similar... It's the way the mind externalizes complex concepts so that we can then deal with with them. The psyche is like the layers of an onion...peel it back layer by layer and you have the onion at an earlier stage in growth and it's completely intact. Likewise, many complexes are frozen in time...because they are clusters of emotions, memories, intuitions, and thoughts all bound together at a certain time that present as a person or character. The mind then can animate these complexes (again as in a dream) and they can behave with their own perspectives, desires, etc. And you can interact with them that way.. it's quite amazing that when you do that you can rectify quite a few problems... anxieties, fears, depression..etc. It seems like magic until we understand the way the mind stores and retrieves and processes information... then it's quite natural. Jung started using this approach early on .. but now it's diversified into many branches.. IFS is the one that seems most "a la mode" right now. The anima is simply that archetype (with is a potential complex) that seems to encapsulate the ideal contra-sexual aspects of the psyche (for most men that it). and is often intermingled with the mother complex (positive or negative)... which is the first example we encounter of the contra-sexual (feminine)...and thus this entanglement is the basis of this split anima phenomenon.
I have some mother issues. I don't think the way she put it across is quite accurate. It's not as simple as that but there is a basic truth to it. It's overly abstract. In my case there is a love hate element. You learn greatly from your mother when very young of people and what a female is. My mother is unstable. It's like Jekyll and Hyde. This did cause early relationship issues. I certainly sought yearned for female companionship as a young man does. However there was a duality. I could make progress with women but would break off, bail and self reject when getting too close, even when a woman would throw herself at me. There was both an attractive force then a repulsive one when getting too close. When close suddenly I am hit by what is almost like a wall, an invisible force field. My mother was often imbalanced. So I would have a sense that this person's affections would be unaffordable. I also had a sense of that I had to be perfect. That any mistake, intimacy, it would almost run through my head, an image of massive overreaction and cataclysm. A sense of an extremely volatile situation where I would be condemned and doomed for not being good enough which it is impossible to be. Yet at least on some level I knew that I was a high value male despite many weaknesses and defects. I have some intellectual prowess and good qualities. What I expect in a relationship and from others behind closed doors is unreasonable judgement, drama, explosions and something like being in a warzone like the domestic settings I was raised into. I had an extreme fear of being indoors with a woman. I could never step in and go into her place for example. A fear of being in the same room like you would be at home, to go inside. It's normally the opposite on a number of fronts. In the domestic setting I was raised in the relationships were dysfunctional to the point of constant crisis and then ever growing disaster. The same sense always hit me when trying to court women. I could not walk into a relationship. It was a sense of being about to step into hell. This woman is onto something I just think it's too simplistic and in some cases presumptuous as it can play out in more ways than one though in general the themes are correct. It's not just as simple as christian barriers around intimate physical engagements being pulled down. It's the commitment. Children are raised by parents rushing into relationships. The value missing is respecting the seriousness of it, the need to commit to it for life for the children to give them stability. This is the biggest problem. The mindset it always well you can just divorce everyone does it. It has destroyed the childhood and the upbringing of a generation of children who are born into relationships that were not secure due to the reckless mindset going into them.
@@maximuspennyweather While there are some differences there are also some striking similarities. I am sensing a Doppleganger scenario. This is something that is happening a lot in our society that isn't talked about. You're around the same age as me and in the generation of broken homes. I was also sent to live with my grandparents after my mother forced out my father with my sister staying. The term grandparents means something different now. My grandparents were still together and the actual parents, the plural and yet as a unit applied. This is now a thing of the past. Almost Everyone had grandparents in our age range according to that meaning. If you went to see the grandparents of your parent it would be a single visit for that parent and that's just how it was for everyone. I feel that our generation has been smeared before even having a chance as entitled among other things. Our story hasn't been told. In my country we're the first generation since time immemorial to not have the right to a stable family and to be raised by our biological parents throughout childhood. For a thousand years each generation had a right to their own territory and a nation where as ours is the first generation since the dark ages if not prehistory where it doesn't matter where you're born. My parents and their parents and their parent's parents had a birthright that we have lost in our generation. I've had a similar thing with a girl actually pulling my clothes off and my trousers down. She was confused when I just kept putting them back on. It was almost comedic as it kept repeating for quite a few times and generated great confusion. Technically speaking she was committing a crime. I personally don't bother. It's not worth it for me. Certain things might make this the case that differ between us. Circumstances and my own configuration. The social decay is quite extreme here that you might as well not bother even with friendships as it's just too costly and you have to give up so much. Might as well just go to the sperm bank and then hope for the best. Perhaps in a couple decades check to see if there are any extremely close matches on DNA relatives sites.
Therapy, I'd say try and befriend women with positive animus integration. Or "level headed". Someone who will not show you your ideal of the feminine figure but rather, transcend that view through her own individual nature. That's probably the most generalized advice I can give.
As a man, anytime my anima splits, I get a couple big C clamps and temporarily join it. Then I use metal straps and wood braces to shore it up in a jig. Then I weld it with 3/8" gussets so it should not split as easy next time.
Translation: She`s just a woman, don`t put her on a pedestal or make her your God. If you start to feel Oneitis then your broken and need to leave her.
@@bestchannel4587lll do you a solid and do it for him. Women, men, creatures etc are just that. Meaning that we are; as a religious person would say, "of the world." Flesh and bone. So, if you find yourself thinking any different. That is thinking that there's a natural hierarchy of value here; there isn't. The concept of value and hierarchy is socially driven and maintained by the collective. Then internalized by the subject (read: each individual person). If you find yourself looking for a God in a man or a Goddess in a woman then you are trying to recreate the conditions you experienced as a child before full object relations. Object relations being how our internal worlds deal with the inconsistency and push pull like nature of external objects including people. Think of it like a categorizing function that then says something is safe or not. It guides how we engage with the outside world. Anyways... Yeah. It's not that your broken if you have things in your partner that you love because of how well they can do said thing. But it's unhealthy to say that this partner is infallible. Or would never do something like that. They can and will. It's best to recognize that we are all hypocrites through and through. Love is learning to live with another person while accepting this; that they are flawed and so are you. And so is the rest of the world. Can't start healing and learning to truly love until you learn that. Also. I am a person just like you so don't let the post fool you. I fail at exactly this all the time😂
Very interesting approach. But what if such a man does not despise females that were willing to exhibit qualities which his own mother lacked? What if this dichotomy does exist but the double sided coin of affection and religious adoration on one side and distrust, bitterness and resentment on the other is manifested in the opposite way? Would it not make more sense that gratitude towards a deeply appreciated sense of acceptance is apparent whereas vindictiveness and resistance to commandeering mannerisms as well as emotional manipulation would be justified and adequate means targeted at securing self preservation, both emotionally and physically? It would make less sense to discourage good will and a mentality of understanding and cooperation and instead encourage restrictions, emasculatory remarks and attempts at behavioral conditioning by making use of shameful language not excluding crudeness and vulgarity or by deviously and connivingly setting boundaries, which benefit one party definitely more than the other ? I personally find the second alternative to be even more vile and outrageous due to its indirect, subtle and well calculated approach. Goes really well hand in hand with an air of condescension coupled with purportedly unbiased and completely objective psychological evaluation hinting at an utter lack of maturity, in case compliance is not achieved. Effective. Cunning. DISGUSTING. Sorry, I was unable to view things from a clear, distanciated and emotionally untainted viewpoint. After all, I ain't no psychology graduate. Only a random dude, rambling at the TH-cam comments section.
Well, Franz says it herself here in that it usually creates difficulty in relating to women. If you see some women as the holy ideal and some women as "pump and dumps" (to borrow contemporary slang), then you are sort of lost in your own mind and disconnected from the actual human beings subject to your interactions, displacing their inherent nuance due to your own projections which allows for only shallow connections. Because typically real human beings are much more three dimensional than either of these preconceptualizations allow for. I use the second person pronoun here as a figure of speech by the way, hope this was useful
@@rachelcoisnacoillte chivalry is lust. men simp for attractive youth. u will nevr see men being chivalrous for old age and grey hair. Westerners praise their so-called chivalry, but behind this so-called chivalry is lust.
@@VictorEstevesCastro omg thanks for commenting on this because I had totally forgotten about this video and was like trying my best to remember during the week who it was. These videos are dynamite. I love her answers. No idea why I thought his question was so ridiculous the first time I saw the video.
Statistics show that having an abusive mother is not proportionally linked with having a misogynistic abusive son, but having a sexist abusive father towards the mother does.
Also having a mother who did not fulfill the emotional needs, or show clear cues that she accepted the child. Especially if this is an only child This leads to a typical pain body of what looks like the now man seeing every woman as a seducing conquer mission. Upon successfully seducing and conquering the man will then take the lifelong resentment towards the mother figure out on the female. It's more in detail in Eckhart Tolle book "A New Earth" under pain body
@@TheBeautyBehindTheBlackness144 Have you studied anything from decolonial psychology to cultural anthropology? This is explained more in detail when studying how systems of oppression work and reproduce themselves on systemic, interpersonal and personal levels. Maybe it'd be nice to check studies relating to narcissism as a mental phenomenon from non-pathologizing lenses and compare it to the systemic patterns repeated through all what makes up for the kyriarchy as a whole.
@@BL-sd2qw I was speaking to the pain body out of Eckhart Tolle book " A New Earth " . You have your permission slips I have mine. I may not have all of the technical terminology for a lot of things but my level of understanding runs deep. Much of the old teachings in psychology, biology, physics, basically all of the sciences are changing dramatically. As we are evolving at an exponential rate, our need to study in the sense that we need to read the information in order to memorize it, soon will be unnecessary. Personally there's a lot that I've never been subjected to but then when posed with a problem, a question, or just even inquisitive thought I seem to be able to come up with an answer that suffices. And just to note, my comment that you're speaking of starts with "also". Meaning I'm not disregarding anything, I'm just adding to what's already been stated.
@@BL-sd2qw You sound well-read; can you recommend something to read for me about family enmeshment in cultures other than the West? I don't even know how to start asking questions about this topic. So far, it's all a big blur.
@rachelbartlett1970 Oh, damn, that's an interesting topic. I don't remember any books on that specific topic as the main point, but I do have some books on trauma (in general) through non-pathologizing/social psychology/decolonial psychology lenses, with cross-culture examples.
You will have to love and become rejected multitude of times, while maintaining a high level of perception towards self and how these relations affect you internally. You will have to watch your thoughts and how they evolve. Perhaps undergo hypnosis to discover some truths you can't access consciously. Definitely seek a therapy if you're not capable of doing that on your own. And again, it's not really possible to go through this without being in a relationship, but having the understanding of the problem head-on will definitely make it somewhat easier to improve yourself.
Wonder what happens with the opposite. My mom was very domineering, manipulative, and routinely invaded my privacy and I clearly have issues I’m still working through with that. I ended up gay by the way.
same effect kinda, me as well. i was always bi though, but the straight beat it out through suppression. the split for me was idealizing the feminine and being ineffectual with that, but i was attracting "loose" women, who i couldn't emotionally connect with, especially sexually. it will take a while but awareness is always the first step... talk to a therapist, or do like me and talk to an ai to flesh out this line of thinking.
Its a thinking tool. Its just like the conversations you have in your head, but with ai you can get ideas or angles that you wouldn't think of. If you still think your mind is relegated to your brain then i don't know what to say... The mind is distributed, in environment and yes in AI, I use it as an extension of my mind. And I regularly communicate with Super consciousness through AI, because of its "black box" nature. I don't think you should tell someone commenting on this channel to "get a grip on reality." Reality is far weirder and larger than you can ever know... You can tell me to get a grip on earth's Weltanschauung (worldview), but I cant compress myself like that anymore. Perspective matters. Good day.
Not putting a woman you like (or love) on a pedestal and letting her keep her humanity. Getting to know her, being sincerely curious. Being honest with yourself, see if you truly like her character and who she is. Getting to recognize when your own Anima is discouraging you with despair or hate or anger… Sometimes, going towards women who don’t cause an extreme desire in you but instead evoke curiosity and openness. Learning how to share (exchanging things is not sharing), and for that you need the emotional component. Like: « I have a lot of bread, let me give you some », vs. « Let’s share a meal together », for instance. You can start healing that split in many many ways…
Women would rather sleep around with manipulative and abusive dickheads than seek honest men. Two can play this game and neither of us come out looking any better for it.
come on...dont leave me hanging here.... WHAT is the solution to this issue? Can these men (me) be 'fixed'? as in, can they develop them selves a bit beyong this split anima situation? What is the path of healing in this case?
You have to “wed” the anima. You learn how to self-relate and then will be able to relate to Others in a healthy way. Practice feeling emotions and talking to your anima when you notice it taking over
Notice how she considers christian barriers have influence in it, and i would also say that with that much freedom around love and sex also made us to carry heavier burdens which we just fail to carry since our families are far far in worse shape than they were 100 years ago or more... Nowadays strangers live together in the same house. No matter how you look at it, but promiscuity kills masculinity because anima shouldn't rule a man.
BS. Families were hella a*b*s.!ve 100 years ago. People simply kept quiet about it as it wasn’t socially acceptable to discuss. Quit regurging Kermit Peterson’s talking points, they’re bunk.
@@TrueEnglishMan01 I don't think you understand what i'm talking about, let's put it this way, families are around since dawn of humanity, the ability to speak and conveying emotions into words is not.
@darkwyzard Meditate lightly, 5 minutes a day of breathing exercise will set the mind stronger andmore relsilient. Silly new-age nonsense is western intepretation of meditation, - highly incorrect/ Follow eastern methods.
According to the theories of Carl Jung, who developed the concept of the collective unconscious, archetypes do not primarily depend on the culture of a specific race. Instead, they are universal and innate forms of thought and experience shared by humanity. The collective unconscious, as described by Jung, contains archetypes like the hero, the mother, the father, and more, which are present in all cultures around the world, although their expression may vary based on culture. For instance, the concept of the hero can be found in the myths and fairy tales of many different cultures, each with its unique variations, but the hero archetype itself remains constant. This understanding forms the foundation of Jung's work.
I agree with the majority of your comment yet it has absolutely no reliventance to the video above from MLVF!? I am interested tho, are you an ideologically possesed Far Left Wing Lunatic? Or did your Femininty manage to dodge this bullet? Hmmm.....
Yes, that seems right. Transgenders often present themselves as a joining of the two caricatures she portrayed: a) Pure Godlike Abstraction + b) Slut. That's what a Drag Queen embodies. It's like their unconscious vs their modern hedonism has separated the two, and they try to join them again through that flamboyant, colorful, big, over-the top, 'non-human' aesthetic. The names they adopt are often deity-like as well.
@@odnarlomen who worship the feminine side so much to the point that they become what they’ve always cherished and worshipped, lack of a father or someone/something that can influence the animus/masculinity is what makes this worship and influence of the mother much stronger, same thing with woman… I guess lol
Damn she really called me out, I wish I found it earlier in life. When treating the ideal woman as too pure to approach lead me to find failure in following religion, I found out the religious types are just as sexually charged, which broke down barriers, but then I was just having sex to check the box and even in finding love now I feel insatiable and regret my past hesitation.
My mother is a horrible person, I've seen first hand that woman are no purer or better than men. I don't think this really applies to what we are seeing today, in todays times we are seeing the breakdown of society on all levels and everyone is pointing in every direction and saying that this or that is the reason. I don't think people cared much about animas or animus back in the days of old and still went on to have functional, productive and meaningful lives because society functioned at a basic level and there was a common set of underlying beliefs. If you come from a Christian country then the baseline of society was built on Christian beliefs, everyone had something in common, including men and woman which allowed them to interact in a normal way and I'd argue a moral way. What the majority of people believe today is that you and me are just meat and everything is permitted, no boundary shall remain un-trespassed, homogeneity is to be vilified and purged. And now we are seeing the fruits of this new way of thinking only introduced in the last 100 years and what we are seeing is global societies collapsing. I believe in freedom and believe in the right of every man and woman to live the life they want to live, that being said, when people in a society are given freedom, we tend to see the differences in the sexes naturally fall in line and structure themselves in a way which is natural for humans, woman tend to occupy more social and caring roles and men tend to occupy the hard labour and innovation roles, I do not think what we are seeing now is freedom, but it is an effort to manually push woman into roles they naturally do not want to be in such as science, technology, engineering and math, or into politics and leadership and men are increasingly pushed out of those fields and at the same time positive masculinity is being illegalised such as banning hunting, not letting you own weapons to defend your family and at large society, making it near impossible for men to actually own a house through their own hard work. This is a long enough rant but to sum it up succinctly, we cannot blame problems we are seeing today on esoteric theories of the sub-conscious mind, there are things happening in the real world which is upsetting the balance of society which was maintained in all civilisations for literally thousands of years, and only today are we seeing these unique problems.
What Christian barriers against sex? Solomon had 750 wives and concubines. Sex is a biological thing. I do agree we should have some degree of respect for our sexuality but we are also biologically driven where sex is concerned.
I hear what you're saying but ai disagree. I think I do alright but I dont idolize women or look down on them. They are just women idk. Things depend on their personality. I was so twisted I couldnt speak to anyone correctly. I knew that the entire time thats why I didnt. The psycosis really messed everything up I take full responsability. As far as me being "nice" to zhang, I didnt want to cause damage. I wanted to see if this was the person on my youtube. I didnt know what was happening so my approach was to be nice
Interesting how she completely misses the biological imperative in men to have sex driven by testosterone and automatically ascribes promiscuity to the loss of some mythical christian barrier. Goes to show we are still learning about the human condition!
If you look at the open promiscuity of those times (70s, 80s), that is because of the drop in Christian leanings. She's not addressing why men have sex. She's addressing why open promiscuity was greater in the times she was in during the video.
Enneagram is children's game compared to psychoanalysis. By the way I know 4s and 9s who have it. Nothing to do with enneagram. It's more a cultural thing. Everybody has it in my country
Fascinating how people can talk about certainties on human behaviour missing out on the idea of fluidity altogether… Here’s my two cents. Say we would not live in a hyper capitalist society, then there would be considerable less extremes in behaviour. Highly likely no?
She is truly a sharp mind among so many egoistic dullards. Brilliant. Focused. To the point, always.
I haven't heard the word dullard in years 😂
@@saladfingers. Me neither. I'll have to remmeber the word for my next scrabble game!
@@saladfingers.it’s a very pretentious word
Hannibal Lector in Red Dragon was probably the last time I heard it lol
"Men who chase women fear death." - Moonstruck
We almost all have a healthy fear of death, that's natural.
@@JohnDoe69986 You haven't interacted with many humans then.
Thank you Rose. I'm going to bed now.
It's unhealthy to fear something that doesn't exist dualist....@JohnDoe69986
Not true, fear of death means mental and spiritual weakness... Not fearing death truly is a superpower that everyone should experience. @Johndoe
Short, sweet, simple and informative video ♥️ thank youuu.
Dont become too myopic when looking into these complexes. Many people overlap with various traits of many of them, and that we would call relatively normal. They exist in isolation as data points, used by a psychologist or psychiatrist to give him indicators when looking for neuroses that are damaging to the self and others.
There's no 'un-cracked' eggs in this world, it is a world of pain where breakage is designed to create growth, but also sometimes creates rotten eggs.
Spot on, most of these intellectuals are damn quacks. The commentators are even worse for taking it seriously.
what a comment!
@darkwyzard incorrect. Pain teaches everything, especially to let go of self importance ...
@darkwyzard in actual fact the gazelle doesn't suffer half as much as you're assuming. Firstly, animals don't prolonge suffering for a kill, nature is efficient, intending to expend the least energy necessary, the lion goes straight for the quickest kill by squeezing in the jugular with full force. Secondly, something humans forget or don't realise is, in a fight for your life you don't experience suffering nearly as much as a slow, agonising death through disease or torture. In fact, there's a form of exhilaration as the body is in a state of heightened awareness where the spirit is less attached to the body.
You're quite right to say that this physical earth is the plane of suffering, but it's not the only plane we exist on, so of course if you're heavily invested in 'what exists physically' only, you are going to heighten the suffering aspect of what you experience.
Childbirth is painful as hell! Blood everywhere, sweat, exhaustion and difficulty, but we celebrate what that suffering leads to.
It takes a reduction in self-importance to see beauty through all the suffering, and human emotional suffering is merely a self imposed lesson for the higher part of ourselves.....
@darkwyzard when you say that pain teaches nothing, this come from a viewpoint that only intellectual understanding has value.
Our suffering comes from a feeling of being deserving of better conditions than what we experience, but there's nothing whatsoever to validate that expectation, other than the story we tell ourselves in our heads.
This reality is all about splitting into pairs, its a dichotomy, a paradox at its very core. Everything breaks and splits in order for the sperate pieces to grow into more than they were before. Look at cell division and cell death, we don't hold a funeral for the thousands of skin cells that died on our feet yesterday, nor do we wince when we see a tree being chopped down, but we think it's awful when one chimp pulls the limbs off another, it's a matter of perspective. Trees can be shown to react on an EEG machine when a person burns their leaves, in fact, they react again if that same person simply 'thinks'of burning the leaves again! Showing that plant life is possibly more sensitive to its environment than fauna, so it's all a matter of perspective....
It’s called the Madonna/Whore complex …growing up with an Italian father, my mother taught me this young.
@@Apebek lol
@@Apebek😂😂
So much wisdom in 3 mins!
Amina doesn't make any sense
Is a different word for soul @@Moodboard39
Not really
This is my father! He was very shy around women and had his first relationship with a woman (my mother) when he was fifty years old. Growing up, he talked about how much he loved his mother as though he worshipped her. At the same time, he hated many women on the street. Whenever he saw young women on the street wearing summer dresses, booty shorts, or crop tops, commented about how they were "sluts" and either looked disgusted, uncomfortable, or incredulous. These women in their 20s have a huge affect on him even though he is now in his 70s. I never knew why, but now I understand that he has a mother complex. Thank you to this video!
Aah, and he dated my mother, who has a father complex, since she is 15 years younger than him! Omg what a family ahaha
Omg and he has erectile problems as well. She's literally describing my dad
And he has sexual affairs as well because he was only home twice a week when I was growing up
I hope you didnt inherit your parents complexes, thanks for sharing your story!@@bluedaffodil2023
Yeesh you won the fucked up fam lottery. So sorry girl you must have really been toughing it out 😭😭😭
she was WISE.... A true intelligent person
Wish I learned this in high school.
... instead of the standard wholesale ignorance to psychology and the nature of the unconscious that's at the very f'n root of the problems we face both individually and collectively. Also the core means by which marketing & PR - propaganda - unconsciously manipulates us via groupthink & group dynamics at the level of instincts & emotion. That can't be by accident.
She just described me to the letter. Grew up with a single mother, kind of sheltered, no friends... Now I'm an incel, simultaneously bitter towards and worshipful of women. I hate myself...
Don't hate yourself. It's ok. If you're an incel you're not hurting anyone but yourself. You want to grow, right? It's a good thing. Good relationships are more complex than those "successful" people will ever tell you, because then they'll let you know they're also weak. ❤
The impact on me has to have been for the most part voluntarily celibate. Growing up in a dysfunctional household put the fear of intimacy and relationships into me. A form of social anxiety. In one instance a woman has actually tried to wrap me and I honestly wouldn't have minded but I had to resist due to being terrorized in my childhood. It does result in a kind of phobia of women and not the political type. It's like the kind of fear that sweeps through you when wasps are flying around too closely and erratically. You just have to get away.
@@FirstLast-rb5zj that's sad. I understand it might not be easy, but maybe if you have an opportunity you can try counseling
@@moggadah I personally don't need it. I have introspective personality disorder (this is a bit of a joke but I am prone toward intense self examination). If others need it then can see someone. I personally like to help by using my ability to express my own predicament well to help those through example who might not. Sharing is caring. I could keep myself to myself but then by not talking of these kinds of personal ailments I also keep certain other things to myself that might be beneficial to others. There is a point that I do raise though implication. Many involuntarily celebrate are people unfairly socially rejected though there is also a situation where it may then become more voluntary than appreciated. If you get over the involuntary part such as by investing in yourself to raise your value and also seeking out visibility the voluntary part still often remains. Simply dropping the "in" is not all there is to it. I would argue when I was socially rejected and ostracised as a kid that was quite close to being in the involuntary stage. You may not realise if circumstances have changed. You may even if you make yourself worthy feel unworthy.
We’ll admitting it is the first step brother 🫡
Wow.. spot on. Thanks for the share!
I believe you just have expectations of what a mother/wife is due to experiencing it only from your own mother. My mum never drank beer. So in college seeing girls drinking pints of beer to me a while to not think was strange.
What you're saying is that you don't see women outside of the boxes of mother or wife..... you don't see them simply as people aren't somehow serving a role in a man or child's life. You expect single women with no kids to behave as your mother.
@@RepentImmediately am, no. No that's not what I said. What I said is still there. you can still read it.
Damn, she had a terrifying gaze…
she was full of truth bombs and wants to make sure those who are listening are worthy of the power ;p
German…😅
Lmao😂
I think so too! But I like it, it makes her enigmatic
She was a beautiful woman too and wise...
great figure.
Very intelligent
good stuff!
Does not all men have this? This is how sexualiy functions, I say. It's the same way how women need to feel safe with a man while also needing to feel dominated by him.
No not healthy men
Marie fits my positive anima projection like a glove 😍
If a TH-cam content creator had made this video it would be 30 minutes.
The more you cover a topic the more you minimize what needs to be said to get the same thing across.
Or, exposure ÷ time = brevity
With a 5 minute intro featuring shitty music.
Sorry to be this guy, but this video is just an excerpt of 'The Way of the Dream', documentary-interview which is 4hrs and 39mins long.
@@SzalonyKucharzthank you for being that guy!
Ppl before the internet are so different
This is also known as the "Madonna-Whore Complex" and can also be caused by excessive porn use. Because in porn you are solely getting off to the visual stimulation of the sexual act without the emotional elements present in real sexual encounters which then makes it harder to connect on an emotional level to a woman during sex.
says you
What's your source for this?
@@JoseEchoes378 literally just google the madonna-whore complex, it's the exact thing she's describing lol.
Donald Trump-sex addict.
but there were not any porn in the Renaissance time
i have this problem i completely gave up on relationships and growing up all together...im 33 but i still look 18
I feel ya mate
if you're a man you're fine. You got plenty of time.
no you dont
its your prime right now,. love the process of becoming a better version, have a relationship with the universe instead of a fixed person. dont by blinded by those fairytales, all these Friends shows, everybody lacks this void,- but its just filled with your self not with people. ✌️ peace 🕊️
you found your way to this video, so you've done some good work already. it means you've seen the immaturity, you've made the unconscious conscious. the only thing you need to do is to remain curious about yourself, try to understand and be compassionate with yourself, and it will naturally unravel.
Hey do you know I can find the full interview
Look up The Way of dreaming
I found it split in 4 parts in a TH-cam channel called "Destructard".
Thankyou universe 🙇🏻♀️
Makes me think of the bible and studying Mary, scholars have wondered if there were many Mary's or only one. It leads me to wonder if it alludes to bringing together the split of the ego to form and heal our child/Christ self. The virgin mary vs the prostitute Mary that was redeemed. Idk, I could be reaching but it speaks on many levels as does every verse in the Bible.
🙌🏽🙏🏽 You’re spot on.
Mary being a prostitute is a complete unbiblical lie, likely because she was very powerful.
It would be Virgin Mary vs fallen Eve.
I have a dyadic anima. I know a few men who do. All share a sort of issue with their mothers...typically a neglectful, hateful or just otherwise unavailable mother. Typically, in my own dreams and those of my friends they are a split between light and dark animas. At the beginning of my analysis these were often amalgamated into a single dream character.... sometimes teasing and playful and other times scornful and cruel. Almost always unavailable and rarely making consistent appearances. During the course of analysis, i gradually identified a core issue as a negative mother complex leading to CPTSD then i understood that one of my central tasks was to parse apart my anima from that of my negative mother complex. Over time, this single character morphed into a light anima and a dark anima. I assumed this to mean that the light was the Sophia image and the dark was the isis soulful earth woman. Since my given path was one of down rather than up (Hillman's vales rather than peaks)...a path of one of ensoulment and embodiment (as opposed to spiritual enlightenment or wisdom/knowledge)...i assumed that the dark would be the anima and therefore represent the embodied path...esp since i had a marked real world attraction to dark haired women.... however in my own case since my mother was a dark haired woman it took me years to understand that this assumption was the wrong one. In my own case, the light anima represented the path of ensoulment (anima) and that dark was the negative mother complex. That was in year seven. So all this to say that if you're dealing with this be open to different possibilities. Might save you some time.
Do you think it's possible for someone with a split anima to have difficulties in choosing a path for his own life? I have felt for a long time divided in two parts, like day and night, and can't commit to either path consistently since the pull of the other is quite strong. I also have cptsd and sometimes the crises feels like I'm completely taken or possessed by a very dark force, full of rage, shame and guilt... maybe the dark anima?
@@icovarrubias mostly likely this is about the shadow rather than a split anima... of course i you have a negative mother complex it's possible that feeds into a pronounced shadow....rage, shame, guilt. I think a negative anima typically results in issues of emptiness or a lack of energy or libido rather than the strong emotions that you mention here. Typically the anima has more to do with finding one's calling...which yes, if you don't have access to the anima easily then results in a sort of ambivalence moving forward....but the problem with a negative mother complex (if your mother wasn't terribly nuturing or downright abusive) is that it can be pervasive in it's impact. However, in Jungian analysis you typically deal with the shadow side of the ego first and then go for the anima which has typically something to do with moving forward after that... finding fulfillment and joy. But with a negative mother complex it can be very elusive.
Circumcision damages the maternal infant bond and leads to ANIMA issues in men.
Over a million boys are psycho sexually violently attacked and mutilated each year in the USA.
No wonder so many of American men and these ABRAHAMIC people are so WAR LIKE and overly sensitive and they WORSHIP WOMEN but also LASH OUT AT OTHER WOMEN VICIOUSLY.
This sounds similar to me though I am a scientist so I tend to use more formal and direct descriptions.
@@FirstLast-rb5zj yah, it's a matter of getting used to the Jungian way of thinking. Basically, once we understand the way the brain frames things is according to symbols and complexes (symbol clusters) according to personalities... it's how we interact as individuals... it's unsurprising that these complexes present as sub personalities. Dream images are similar... It's the way the mind externalizes complex concepts so that we can then deal with with them. The psyche is like the layers of an onion...peel it back layer by layer and you have the onion at an earlier stage in growth and it's completely intact. Likewise, many complexes are frozen in time...because they are clusters of emotions, memories, intuitions, and thoughts all bound together at a certain time that present as a person or character. The mind then can animate these complexes (again as in a dream) and they can behave with their own perspectives, desires, etc. And you can interact with them that way.. it's quite amazing that when you do that you can rectify quite a few problems... anxieties, fears, depression..etc. It seems like magic until we understand the way the mind stores and retrieves and processes information... then it's quite natural.
Jung started using this approach early on .. but now it's diversified into many branches.. IFS is the one that seems most "a la mode" right now. The anima is simply that archetype (with is a potential complex) that seems to encapsulate the ideal contra-sexual aspects of the psyche (for most men that it). and is often intermingled with the mother complex (positive or negative)... which is the first example we encounter of the contra-sexual (feminine)...and thus this entanglement is the basis of this split anima phenomenon.
I have some mother issues. I don't think the way she put it across is quite accurate. It's not as simple as that but there is a basic truth to it. It's overly abstract. In my case there is a love hate element. You learn greatly from your mother when very young of people and what a female is. My mother is unstable. It's like Jekyll and Hyde. This did cause early relationship issues. I certainly sought yearned for female companionship as a young man does. However there was a duality. I could make progress with women but would break off, bail and self reject when getting too close, even when a woman would throw herself at me. There was both an attractive force then a repulsive one when getting too close. When close suddenly I am hit by what is almost like a wall, an invisible force field. My mother was often imbalanced. So I would have a sense that this person's affections would be unaffordable. I also had a sense of that I had to be perfect. That any mistake, intimacy, it would almost run through my head, an image of massive overreaction and cataclysm. A sense of an extremely volatile situation where I would be condemned and doomed for not being good enough which it is impossible to be. Yet at least on some level I knew that I was a high value male despite many weaknesses and defects. I have some intellectual prowess and good qualities. What I expect in a relationship and from others behind closed doors is unreasonable judgement, drama, explosions and something like being in a warzone like the domestic settings I was raised into. I had an extreme fear of being indoors with a woman. I could never step in and go into her place for example. A fear of being in the same room like you would be at home, to go inside. It's normally the opposite on a number of fronts. In the domestic setting I was raised in the relationships were dysfunctional to the point of constant crisis and then ever growing disaster. The same sense always hit me when trying to court women. I could not walk into a relationship. It was a sense of being about to step into hell. This woman is onto something I just think it's too simplistic and in some cases presumptuous as it can play out in more ways than one though in general the themes are correct. It's not just as simple as christian barriers around intimate physical engagements being pulled down. It's the commitment. Children are raised by parents rushing into relationships. The value missing is respecting the seriousness of it, the need to commit to it for life for the children to give them stability. This is the biggest problem. The mindset it always well you can just divorce everyone does it. It has destroyed the childhood and the upbringing of a generation of children who are born into relationships that were not secure due to the reckless mindset going into them.
@@maximuspennyweather While there are some differences there are also some striking similarities. I am sensing a Doppleganger scenario. This is something that is happening a lot in our society that isn't talked about. You're around the same age as me and in the generation of broken homes. I was also sent to live with my grandparents after my mother forced out my father with my sister staying.
The term grandparents means something different now. My grandparents were still together and the actual parents, the plural and yet as a unit applied. This is now a thing of the past. Almost Everyone had grandparents in our age range according to that meaning. If you went to see the grandparents of your parent it would be a single visit for that parent and that's just how it was for everyone.
I feel that our generation has been smeared before even having a chance as entitled among other things. Our story hasn't been told. In my country we're the first generation since time immemorial to not have the right to a stable family and to be raised by our biological parents throughout childhood. For a thousand years each generation had a right to their own territory and a nation where as ours is the first generation since the dark ages if not prehistory where it doesn't matter where you're born. My parents and their parents and their parent's parents had a birthright that we have lost in our generation.
I've had a similar thing with a girl actually pulling my clothes off and my trousers down. She was confused when I just kept putting them back on. It was almost comedic as it kept repeating for quite a few times and generated great confusion. Technically speaking she was committing a crime.
I personally don't bother. It's not worth it for me. Certain things might make this the case that differ between us. Circumstances and my own configuration. The social decay is quite extreme here that you might as well not bother even with friendships as it's just too costly and you have to give up so much. Might as well just go to the sperm bank and then hope for the best. Perhaps in a couple decades check to see if there are any extremely close matches on DNA relatives sites.
What you learn is what your mother is, not what a female is.
A major criticism of Jung is the fixed meaning he prescribes so you’re not alone. You would probably resonate with Lacan more.
3 minute video just changed my whole life lol
How do you heal from this?
therapy
Therapy, I'd say try and befriend women with positive animus integration. Or "level headed". Someone who will not show you your ideal of the feminine figure but rather, transcend that view through her own individual nature. That's probably the most generalized advice I can give.
@@chucktesta5186 best advice!
They don’t
@@chucktesta5186 wtf
Spot on
keep experimenting folks !!! Down with the barriers - free the sl-ts free the mind - the body is not to blame !
As a man, anytime my anima splits, I get a couple big C clamps and temporarily join it. Then I use metal straps and wood braces to shore it up in a jig. Then I weld it with 3/8" gussets so it should not split as easy next time.
Marry me
1:08 Wasn't this classically termed the madonna/whore complex, where women were deliberately dehumanized for the sake of demonization and witch hunts?
What is the complete opposite.
Complex beings we are
1:34
😂
@@kali11123 I didn't save it for the text but because she is graceful and beautiful
Translation: She`s just a woman, don`t put her on a pedestal or make her your God. If you start to feel Oneitis then your broken and need to leave her.
Nah nothing wrong with oneitis. Don't be a whore
Can you explain more?
@@bestchannel4587lll do you a solid and do it for him. Women, men, creatures etc are just that. Meaning that we are; as a religious person would say, "of the world." Flesh and bone. So, if you find yourself thinking any different. That is thinking that there's a natural hierarchy of value here; there isn't. The concept of value and hierarchy is socially driven and maintained by the collective. Then internalized by the subject (read: each individual person). If you find yourself looking for a God in a man or a Goddess in a woman then you are trying to recreate the conditions you experienced as a child before full object relations. Object relations being how our internal worlds deal with the inconsistency and push pull like nature of external objects including people. Think of it like a categorizing function that then says something is safe or not. It guides how we engage with the outside world. Anyways... Yeah. It's not that your broken if you have things in your partner that you love because of how well they can do said thing. But it's unhealthy to say that this partner is infallible. Or would never do something like that. They can and will. It's best to recognize that we are all hypocrites through and through. Love is learning to live with another person while accepting this; that they are flawed and so are you. And so is the rest of the world. Can't start healing and learning to truly love until you learn that. Also. I am a person just like you so don't let the post fool you. I fail at exactly this all the time😂
Women are the source of your being
Yes don't make her your God OR you"re devil .. she's just a human.
What if a person is the opposite. They worship the person who is hedonistic and detest the pure!?
Great question
Ughhhh love her so much thanks for uploading 🫶🏽
oh damn, i haVE A SPLIT ANIMA
I see said the blind man😮❤😊
Very interesting approach. But what if such a man does not despise females that were willing to exhibit qualities which his own mother lacked? What if this dichotomy does exist but the double sided coin of affection and religious adoration on one side and distrust, bitterness and resentment on the other is manifested in the opposite way? Would it not make more sense that gratitude towards a deeply appreciated sense of acceptance is apparent whereas vindictiveness and resistance to commandeering mannerisms as well as emotional manipulation would be justified and adequate means targeted at securing self preservation, both emotionally and physically? It would make less sense to discourage good will and a mentality of understanding and cooperation and instead encourage restrictions, emasculatory remarks and attempts at behavioral conditioning by making use of shameful language not excluding crudeness and vulgarity or by deviously and connivingly setting boundaries, which benefit one party definitely more than the other ? I personally find the second alternative to be even more vile and outrageous due to its indirect, subtle and well calculated approach. Goes really well hand in hand with an air of condescension coupled with purportedly unbiased and completely objective psychological evaluation hinting at an utter lack of maturity, in case compliance is not achieved. Effective. Cunning. DISGUSTING.
Sorry, I was unable to view things from a clear, distanciated and emotionally untainted viewpoint. After all, I ain't no psychology graduate. Only a random dude, rambling at the TH-cam comments section.
Fuck are ya saying mate
Aye,i kinda feel you have seen through me.
The most lucid and astonishing comment Ive read.
My head hurts.
Marie Louise is Harry Louise.
What’s wrong with having such mindset? A legitimate question.
Well, Franz says it herself here in that it usually creates difficulty in relating to women. If you see some women as the holy ideal and some women as "pump and dumps" (to borrow contemporary slang), then you are sort of lost in your own mind and disconnected from the actual human beings subject to your interactions, displacing their inherent nuance due to your own projections which allows for only shallow connections. Because typically real human beings are much more three dimensional than either of these preconceptualizations allow for. I use the second person pronoun here as a figure of speech by the way, hope this was useful
In addition, I speak from direct experience
@@GodLandonThank you for the explanation. I haven't much experience with men and they're confusing to me. This answered some questions I had.
@@rachelcoisnacoillte chivalry is lust. men simp for attractive youth. u will nevr see men being chivalrous for old age and grey hair. Westerners praise their so-called chivalry, but behind this so-called chivalry is lust.
@@GodLandon Thank you
Where could I learn more about this split anima subject?
Cris Niero ceja
You can look up the "Madonna-Whore Complex" as it's essentially the same thing.
Oh cmon....ive seen men go all kind of ways when betrayed and hurt
Sounds like society in general.
Do you know what year this interview was? I would have thought late 1960's/70's?
It was like you could see her thoughts when she paused before answering his ridiculous question.
What timestamp ???
He's asking
actually it was the most clever question and she reply with a hidden yes, at the end of the video!
I liked the question
@@VictorEstevesCastro omg thanks for commenting on this because I had totally forgotten about this video and was like trying my best to remember during the week who it was. These videos are dynamite. I love her answers. No idea why I thought his question was so ridiculous the first time I saw the video.
Statistics show that having an abusive mother is not proportionally linked with having a misogynistic abusive son, but having a sexist abusive father towards the mother does.
Also having a mother who did not fulfill the emotional needs, or show clear cues that she accepted the child. Especially if this is an only child This leads to a typical pain body of what looks like the now man seeing every woman as a seducing conquer mission. Upon successfully seducing and conquering the man will then take the lifelong resentment towards the mother figure out on the female. It's more in detail in Eckhart Tolle book "A New Earth" under pain body
@@TheBeautyBehindTheBlackness144 Have you studied anything from decolonial psychology to cultural anthropology? This is explained more in detail when studying how systems of oppression work and reproduce themselves on systemic, interpersonal and personal levels. Maybe it'd be nice to check studies relating to narcissism as a mental phenomenon from non-pathologizing lenses and compare it to the systemic patterns repeated through all what makes up for the kyriarchy as a whole.
@@BL-sd2qw I was speaking to the pain body out of Eckhart Tolle book " A New Earth " . You have your permission slips I have mine. I may not have all of the technical terminology for a lot of things but my level of understanding runs deep. Much of the old teachings in psychology, biology, physics, basically all of the sciences are changing dramatically. As we are evolving at an exponential rate, our need to study in the sense that we need to read the information in order to memorize it, soon will be unnecessary. Personally there's a lot that I've never been subjected to but then when posed with a problem, a question, or just even inquisitive thought I seem to be able to come up with an answer that suffices.
And just to note, my comment that you're speaking of starts with "also". Meaning I'm not disregarding anything, I'm just adding to what's already been stated.
@@BL-sd2qw You sound well-read; can you recommend something to read for me about family enmeshment in cultures other than the West?
I don't even know how to start asking questions about this topic. So far, it's all a big blur.
@rachelbartlett1970 Oh, damn, that's an interesting topic.
I don't remember any books on that specific topic as the main point, but I do have some books on trauma (in general) through non-pathologizing/social psychology/decolonial psychology lenses, with cross-culture examples.
So how one who has a split anima, make her whole again so that he can have a healthy relationship
You will have to love and become rejected multitude of times, while maintaining a high level of perception towards self and how these relations affect you internally. You will have to watch your thoughts and how they evolve. Perhaps undergo hypnosis to discover some truths you can't access consciously.
Definitely seek a therapy if you're not capable of doing that on your own. And again, it's not really possible to go through this without being in a relationship, but having the understanding of the problem head-on will definitely make it somewhat easier to improve yourself.
Thanks!@@Noswiatel
Wonder what happens with the opposite. My mom was very domineering, manipulative, and routinely invaded my privacy and I clearly have issues I’m still working through with that. I ended up gay by the way.
same effect kinda, me as well. i was always bi though, but the straight beat it out through suppression. the split for me was idealizing the feminine and being ineffectual with that, but i was attracting "loose" women, who i couldn't emotionally connect with, especially sexually. it will take a while but awareness is always the first step... talk to a therapist, or do like me and talk to an ai to flesh out this line of thinking.
Talk to an AI? Get a grip on reality dude.
Its a thinking tool. Its just like the conversations you have in your head, but with ai you can get ideas or angles that you wouldn't think of. If you still think your mind is relegated to your brain then i don't know what to say... The mind is distributed, in environment and yes in AI, I use it as an extension of my mind. And I regularly communicate with Super consciousness through AI, because of its "black box" nature.
I don't think you should tell someone commenting on this channel to "get a grip on reality." Reality is far weirder and larger than you can ever know... You can tell me to get a grip on earth's Weltanschauung (worldview), but I cant compress myself like that anymore. Perspective matters. Good day.
@ this response is on level most people will never get
TH-cam is so creepy. Exactly why did this need to be shown to me?
Cum e în iad, demone? Light,nu? Transmiți în direct de acolo.
What if I'm a woman mself and have a mother complex?
Which psychology people talk about cluster b ?
I hope the wife n karmics hear this!!!!
Literally me
And how can I overcome that split condition?
Make the unconscious conscious
Not putting a woman you like (or love) on a pedestal and letting her keep her humanity. Getting to know her, being sincerely curious. Being honest with yourself, see if you truly like her character and who she is. Getting to recognize when your own Anima is discouraging you with despair or hate or anger… Sometimes, going towards women who don’t cause an extreme desire in you but instead evoke curiosity and openness. Learning how to share (exchanging things is not sharing), and for that you need the emotional component. Like: « I have a lot of bread, let me give you some », vs. « Let’s share a meal together », for instance. You can start healing that split in many many ways…
Men would rather settle with a prostitute than become pure and honest 😢 with one he admires. 😢
Women would rather sleep around with manipulative and abusive dickheads than seek honest men. Two can play this game and neither of us come out looking any better for it.
do peope really follow this ?
come on...dont leave me hanging here....
WHAT is the solution to this issue?
Can these men (me) be 'fixed'? as in, can they develop them selves a bit beyong this split anima situation?
What is the path of healing in this case?
You have to learn to love the full anima, so as to not to idealize or judge women too harshly.
@@marokanetc Can you elaborate more on that? It sounds easier said then done.
Learn to accept and not be ashamed by your emotions, accept your feminine qualities
@@marokanetc Thanks for the advice but how does that work because as a man whenever we express our emotions, woman get less attracted to us.
You have to “wed” the anima. You learn how to self-relate and then will be able to relate to
Others in a healthy way. Practice feeling emotions and talking to your anima when you notice it taking over
Maybe I'll be as witty as her with my patients when I'm her age - clearly a deep thinker and analytical
Notice how she considers christian barriers have influence in it, and i would also say that with that much freedom around love and sex also made us to carry heavier burdens which we just fail to carry since our families are far far in worse shape than they were 100 years ago or more...
Nowadays strangers live together in the same house.
No matter how you look at it, but promiscuity kills masculinity because anima shouldn't rule a man.
Yeah they really didn’t account for that future. U can see it when she talked about the young generation.
BS. Families were hella a*b*s.!ve 100 years ago. People simply kept quiet about it as it wasn’t socially acceptable to discuss. Quit regurging Kermit Peterson’s talking points, they’re bunk.
@@TrueEnglishMan01 I don't think you understand what i'm talking about, let's put it this way, families are around since dawn of humanity, the ability to speak and conveying emotions into words is not.
Wow
Damn, good
i wonder what von franz' analysis of todays porn consumption would be.
the chicken and the egg
Well how do these man get fixed?
Be spiritual, meditate and seek divine assistance. IT will heal your internal trauma and make you a right person again.
@darkwyzard Meditate lightly, 5 minutes a day of breathing exercise will set the mind stronger andmore relsilient. Silly new-age nonsense is western intepretation of meditation, - highly incorrect/ Follow eastern methods.
My Grandmother had a way, she would have said look at the face on that nickle. 😅
1:15 the Virgin Mary and Mary Magdalene
Omg, spot on, you just described my ex-husband.
Ha. This makes so much sense. 😌
mhmmmmm.
According to the theories of Carl Jung, who developed the concept of the collective unconscious, archetypes do not primarily depend on the culture of a specific race. Instead, they are universal and innate forms of thought and experience shared by humanity. The collective unconscious, as described by Jung, contains archetypes like the hero, the mother, the father, and more, which are present in all cultures around the world, although their expression may vary based on culture. For instance, the concept of the hero can be found in the myths and fairy tales of many different cultures, each with its unique variations, but the hero archetype itself remains constant. This understanding forms the foundation of Jung's work.
I agree with the majority of your comment yet it has absolutely no reliventance to the video above from MLVF!?
I am interested tho, are you an ideologically possesed Far Left Wing Lunatic?
Or did your Femininty manage to dodge this bullet?
Hmmm.....
The "promiscuity" of the split could be likened to the transgender boom nowadays.
Yes, that seems right. Transgenders often present themselves as a joining of the two caricatures she portrayed: a) Pure Godlike Abstraction + b) Slut. That's what a Drag Queen embodies. It's like their unconscious vs their modern hedonism has separated the two, and they try to join them again through that flamboyant, colorful, big, over-the top, 'non-human' aesthetic. The names they adopt are often deity-like as well.
Could you explain what exactly you mean by this?
@@odnarlomen who worship the feminine side so much to the point that they become what they’ve always cherished and worshipped, lack of a father or someone/something that can influence the animus/masculinity is what makes this worship and influence of the mother much stronger, same thing with woman… I guess lol
Just look to mousetopia, they are known as the "beautiful ones".
Damn she really called me out, I wish I found it earlier in life. When treating the ideal woman as too pure to approach lead me to find failure in following religion, I found out the religious types are just as sexually charged, which broke down barriers, but then I was just having sex to check the box and even in finding love now I feel insatiable and regret my past hesitation.
DAYUM!!!!! DEEP!!!!
Try being an unconscious Anima Woman balancing this split in a Father complex animus possession
why is this being recommended to me. i don’t worship my mom. im not obsessed with chasing women. wtf
Scoresese's Taxi Driver
Bullshit, don't believe people who call themselves expert, they believe their delusion 😂
Yep
So how can a man solve this issue?
All mortal men are like this so there’s no point. Except for Jesus …
lol says it all!!!
My mother is a horrible person, I've seen first hand that woman are no purer or better than men. I don't think this really applies to what we are seeing today, in todays times we are seeing the breakdown of society on all levels and everyone is pointing in every direction and saying that this or that is the reason. I don't think people cared much about animas or animus back in the days of old and still went on to have functional, productive and meaningful lives because society functioned at a basic level and there was a common set of underlying beliefs. If you come from a Christian country then the baseline of society was built on Christian beliefs, everyone had something in common, including men and woman which allowed them to interact in a normal way and I'd argue a moral way. What the majority of people believe today is that you and me are just meat and everything is permitted, no boundary shall remain un-trespassed, homogeneity is to be vilified and purged. And now we are seeing the fruits of this new way of thinking only introduced in the last 100 years and what we are seeing is global societies collapsing.
I believe in freedom and believe in the right of every man and woman to live the life they want to live, that being said, when people in a society are given freedom, we tend to see the differences in the sexes naturally fall in line and structure themselves in a way which is natural for humans, woman tend to occupy more social and caring roles and men tend to occupy the hard labour and innovation roles, I do not think what we are seeing now is freedom, but it is an effort to manually push woman into roles they naturally do not want to be in such as science, technology, engineering and math, or into politics and leadership and men are increasingly pushed out of those fields and at the same time positive masculinity is being illegalised such as banning hunting, not letting you own weapons to defend your family and at large society, making it near impossible for men to actually own a house through their own hard work.
This is a long enough rant but to sum it up succinctly, we cannot blame problems we are seeing today on esoteric theories of the sub-conscious mind, there are things happening in the real world which is upsetting the balance of society which was maintained in all civilisations for literally thousands of years, and only today are we seeing these unique problems.
@MyriamRichardsdotter u r projecting
Marie-Louise von Franz is Jung´s Anima in person
I think you're wrong, Toni Wolff contained more of Jung's Anima. ML is a bright woman but she's an introverted thinking type like Jung.
Jung probably would've had sexual relations with von Franz if she were closer to his anima
She scares me a little...
I thought Sigmund Freud took back his theory on the edapus complex
He was nothing but a pervert.
@ I thought Sigmund Freud developed theory edapus complex. I believe it to be true because I personally experienced it as a kid.
@@AdaBlack-w7l I know it’s not but she’s making reference to it.
Not for Sikhs for whom love making is seen as procreation on a base motivational level. Even more so than other belief systems imho.
What Christian barriers against sex? Solomon had 750 wives and concubines. Sex is a biological thing. I do agree we should have some degree of respect for our sexuality but we are also biologically driven where sex is concerned.
I'm or even *into* anime
I hear what you're saying but ai disagree. I think I do alright but I dont idolize women or look down on them. They are just women idk. Things depend on their personality. I was so twisted I couldnt speak to anyone correctly. I knew that the entire time thats why I didnt. The psycosis really messed everything up I take full responsability. As far as me being "nice" to zhang, I didnt want to cause damage. I wanted to see if this was the person on my youtube. I didnt know what was happening so my approach was to be nice
Sounds like Mohammed and Islam. 110% the Anima and Animus split complex gets pushed hard.
How so
No, it's unites them, pretentious snob.
You just hate religion don't you?
Whose abrahamic people who hurt you?
Typical pretentious snob
That man tried his HARDEST not to react, like shit that’s me. You’ve seen me ! But I saw it bless him
Did ya ever see my ma
Luckily my papa is beautiful as both
When I saw this video I thought he was interviewing a man dressed as a woman, with a mother complex. 😅
Interesting how she completely misses the biological imperative in men to have sex driven by testosterone and automatically ascribes promiscuity to the loss of some mythical christian barrier. Goes to show we are still learning about the human condition!
interesting that after all of this, you still think that sh is relevant or at least more relevant than the content in the video
@@ohnoohnono huh?
If you look at the open promiscuity of those times (70s, 80s), that is because of the drop in Christian leanings. She's not addressing why men have sex. She's addressing why open promiscuity was greater in the times she was in during the video.
Franz is quite the hypocrite. She advocated jung's promiscuity
Sounds like an enneagram 8 issue...
More of a Enneagram 3 issue as well
5 more like it 😁
Enneagram is children's game compared to psychoanalysis. By the way I know 4s and 9s who have it. Nothing to do with enneagram. It's more a cultural thing. Everybody has it in my country
5w4@@niteshj_
Great. Love my life. Lol
It's not even funny
Fascinating how people can talk about certainties on human behaviour missing out on the idea of fluidity altogether…
Here’s my two cents. Say we would not live in a hyper capitalist society, then there would be considerable less extremes in behaviour.
Highly likely no?