Think about it: if the man had no love from his mother, he had to learn to love himself as a replacement. Now he experiences women as incapable of loving which furthers his own investment in himself. Narcissism, at the end of the day, is a depleted self that is little nourished from parental love. Narcs parents have their own autoerotic tradition they keep passing on.
This is why i tell people to read religious stuff through metaphore, this shit is literally that sin they talk about that gets passed from parents to kids...
This showed up in my feed at the right time. The internet and mobile phones can bring me much needed teachings of being a loving man, from a woman teacher I had never heard of.
At 1:46 to the end, she mentions that as soon as the transformation starts to take place, other men with an undeveloped anima will try to keep the woman to themselves as an object, which leads to the tendecies of relapsing. Does that mean that as a man struggles to transform his anima, so should the woman be conscious of this transformation in order to know when she is becoming the object of another man's ideal romanticisms and autoerotic fantasies? That is for a stable relationship to be found.
I believe she is referring to an internal struggle. As you said, she is talking about what happens as soon as the transformation starts to take place. The transformation is not complete, and the "new" or "transformed" aspect of self has not yet been developed to a capacity where it can reliably or conclusively fend off the defenses and maneuvers of the underdeveloped (yet overly-empowered) anima.
I would like to ask her about women , in particular whether she agrees with the old adage : 'The man desires the woman, the woman desires the mans desire.'
Or she'll only see herself as valid if desired. There's a great book called Women and Desire: Beyond Wanting to Be Wanted by Polly Young-Eisendrath @@kirstinstrand6292
Mystics in India have a saying that a man(gender) who achieves spiritual bliss or a certain metaphysical achievement becomes feminine by traits. So this checks out perfectly.
i have heard this too from western sources such as Jung. A man integrates his shadow and he gains feminine traits, more graceful, observant, caring for example.
I never seen spiritual or metaphysical woman ever …and i have never seen guru whos a woman or gay or i have never seen woman interested in those things
@@walkingwith_dinosaurs Oh, my. Here comes the science straw man again... You don't give a fuck about science. You just want to question other peoples meaningful experience 'cause you are an asshole.
Don't buy it. We all have fantasies about women because we've experienced something close to what we fantasize about. And this is all rooted in the desire to be connected. A man's way of connecting us sexual and we understand sexual bonding more than women do. And we are gaslit by granny here into believing that that component of ourselves is entirely selfish when it isn't. We don't have sex just for purely our own pleasure. For me, I receive the most pleasure when I know I'm pleasing her sexually and she wants to be with me. Because that's my job as a man is to pour my love into someone. And I'm not going to be shamed if sexual love is my favorite form. There's nothing wrong with it. I enjoy all other forms of love too but I'm allowed to pick and choose which ones I enjoy the most.
The point about relaxing into the old state is real. Its wave like, the tendancies shift between the new gold anima and the old black anima. Im yet to know the dreamer yet, but i suspect that once there is consciousness of the old patterns, they can be avoided in preference for the new evolved state.
A man's way of connecting is sexual and we understand sexual bonding more than women do. And we are gaslit by granny here into believing that that component of ourselves is entirely selfish when it isn't. We don't have sex just for purely our own pleasure. For me, I receive the most pleasure when I know I'm pleasing her sexually and she wants to be with me. Because that's my job as a man is to pour my love into someone. And I'm not going to be shamed if sexual love is my favorite form. There's nothing wrong with it. I enjoy all other forms of love too but I'm allowed to pick and choose which ones I enjoy the most.
To an extent, you're correct. But you should try to understand the female perspective, as well. In the start of relationships for women, they can be scared of the man. Unsure if he is a r-pist, unsure if he is simply using the woman for her body and may throw her away the moment he gets bored of sex with her. The woman is capable of reciprocating the sexual aspect of romance, but her primary concern is that she feels safe. A lot of men rush into sexual encounters (due to their fantasies of sex) and they're completely unaware of this aspect of things. Even if you are trying to make sure that she enjoys sex as well, the certainty of whether or not the relationship has a future may not be there. And they may pull away to avoid future heartbreak. You counteract this fear she may feel by actively participating in the other forms of love. It's about being empathetic and understanding of what may make the other person uncomfortable.
You are wrong. Male s*xual drive is entirely selfish. Men are responsible for over 90% of r*pe. Men often leave women who can't provide them sex due to serious illness like cancer. There are horror stories about men who literally came to hospitals to their dying wives in order to coerce them into performing sexual acts on them, despite their state. There are men who push wives to perform sexual acts shortly after giving birth, when they are not fully recovered yet. There are men who have HPV and other STDs and despite that they have sex with women and give it to them, a virus like HPV which can cause cervical cancer in women. Men who make female birth control ineffective on purpose or make holes in condoms because they want to force women into pregnancy. Men who coerce women into performing unpleasant sexual acts because they saw them in p*rn. I won't even mention that except treating women like free prostitutes, men also treat them as free domestic labour and mental health advisors. All that and they don't even like women as people, men only like and respect other men. Most men are literally parasites on women.
You're taking the term "autoerotic" a little too literally. It's not purely about physical sex in this context, but that a man may make love itself more of a condition of himself rather than a feeling towards a woman. Hence her example of the woman sensing the man courting her is really just emotionally indulging himself rather than genuinely expressing his true love for her as a woman. She makes a great distinction by saying that the woman isn't the subject of his love (like the woman as you may be referring to) but rather his "partner" he needs to feel himself in love, which means who she is isn't important, but that she's there to fulfill his desire to be in love is.
Then you don't love "her", but your "idea of her". Which is what the woman in the video is talking about. But it happens. I used to believe I was in love with my ex, but I never was. I was in love with the story I told myself of who she was. And when I finally woke up, I realized she never was that. That was liberating. I was finally able to move on.
Yes there is. It's just not interpersonal love. Love is the love of everything because you've recognized your Self is the Self of everything, so to love everything is to love yourself and vice versa. Your "love" is my "attachment".
Yeah not my fault, I was murdered, an unnatural death, and now I walk the earth in limbo until the werewolf's curse is lifted and I can stop compensating
& @scr scr Perhaps these books by Robert A. Johnson would help, esp 1-4; I've not read #5 (the URL takes you to a list of his books & their reviews): 1) "He: Understanding Masculine Psychology"; 2) "She: Understanding Feminine Psychology"; 3) "We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love"; 4) "Lying with the Heavenly Woman: Understanding and Integrating the Feminine Archetypes in Men's Lives"; 5) "Owning Your Own Shadow: Understanding the Dark Side of the Psyche"; 5) "Transformation: Understanding the Three Levels of Masculine Consciousness". www.goodreads.com/author/list/6258.Robert_A_Johnson
I believe this autoerotic love is very similar for the vast majority of the young (male and females) in the Collective West cultures. Only age and unhappy experiences allow for emotional growth. This is what I've learned and observed throughout my life. Young females are as driven towards sex as young men; both are driven by raging hormones - this is how humanity thrives and grows - it's biology.
every time I see someone writing such reflections and add something like "this is what I've learned and observed throughout my life" it feels like I'm reading an esoteric virgin hermit with no distinguishable character features
@@GuineaPig361 you can’t really agree with just one concept, it’s all true in parts. I see it everyday, daddy and mommy issues are part of what attacts people to one another. Some people aren’t self aware enough to even realise they have them or just don’t care.
That’s because there a lot of new age stupidness that has infiltrated Jungian camps . Von Franz is a direct disciple of Jung with her great contributions to analytical psychology.
Interesting. Im totally capable of being in love, but when it comes to sex, I feel gross and embarrassed to submit to women. As I've said for 40+ years, "REAL MEN DON'T BUST". or "real men say NO" to women.
@@dullknifefactory Thank you. For once, it's a pleasant surprise to not get trolled or shit on by nasty people. I appreciate it more than I could parlay on here. Namaste.
This is because your mother ridiculed and embarrassed you as the erotic natural wave swept over you. She pushed you away, giving a signal of "you should be attracted to this"
I think she makes some great points and its useful to look at problems from different perspectives however I think she may be doing a disservice by aiming it this issues at men. Now that I’m older, I’ve met just as many woman, that we’re just a dubaucherous as men if not worse. So I have to call bs on some of this
But not all women love to be loved, many want to be an object. And they love the “mewing” man. It is easy to be a philosopher than to love and be loved. Nowadays love is not mutually reciprocated and nonsense like this is the reason.
You come from a culture which treats women like an object and limit themselves to be slaves. No wonder you say this. Btw how many wives you got 3, 4 or 5 ?
Women don’t really like to be objectified, their egos do. It feels some void in them I’d assume, the more men who blindly lust after them the more cement that’s filled into the hole. It’s overcompensation for something that was lacking in child hood, same as this would be for men.
Objective Object Objectify The Impuls comes from the warrior / hunter within men. I see this insane focus / target fixation in my young, uncastrated belgian shepherd. He's made to hunt.
@@Yetipfote Everyone objectifies everyone, women objectify men as well. In this underdeveloped society men have been the ones who had to have money and women have been the ones who had to have beauty, and relationships are mostly an exchange of those objectifications. It's very rare to find love in this society, because most people is incapable of real authentic love. Men see women as bodies and women see men as projects. Then there are few cases of both men and women who are on another level completely, when the spiritual power exceeds the power of the chemicals in our bodies we turn into Masters.
@@goodvibes1397 blabla spiritual power .... show me one single purely spiritual power without chemicals in our body. And please by the way define what "Love" is. Everybody talking as if they knew .... I NEVER heard a convincing definition ESPECIALLY from very "spiritual" persons. This is all elitist bull shit!
Just wait until general artificial intelligence will be added to robotic humanoid on an economical global scale. We will heavily steer into communism or neo feudalism.
This kind of thinking and framing of emotional and spiritual phenomena in terms of 'masculine' and 'feminine' is extremely flawed, the main cause of todays misunderstandings and 'animosity' amongst sexes and is wreaking havoc in modern western societies; it's also an expression of feminine 'narcissism'.
You realize that your last statement is framing emotional phenomenon in the same way you derided. A thing you said in your first scentence is bad. It makes sense considering that you seem to think these ideas are driving animosity between the sexes, when in reality it your own misunderstanding of the terms as well as why society has such animosity between sexes in the first place within modern western society. Thus that you have shown yourself to be a hypocrite, in that it is supposedly driving western society apart and is a flawed ideal, yet it is reasonable to use it to describe something. Why use the term feminine narcissism if you think the ideal of using those terms is bad unless you have some agenda. Double thinking, and double speak. I would really like to know how you think it is that it is wreaking havoc in western society because i am sure most of what you point to is a societal problem pinned to something entirely different.
pirangelloferretti3588. No, you poor ignorant fool. She is talking about the INNER self. All men must develop their feminine side. All women must develop their masculine side. In this way, we understand the opposite sex and can love with maturity and generosity. Read some basic books on psychology written by Jung. She was his pupil.
@@bulbo-the-hero What is really wreaking havoc is not unchecked ideals. It is pure interference in cultural norms, fueled by endocrine disruptors. Philosophy and psychology can only take you so far and are insufficient when it comes to grasping the problems western society faces.
@@xXxLPNo777xXx It's more my _perception._ I didn't accuse von Franz of being a racist. It's no more a projection than recognising a quite obvious sexual innuendo.
Mozart was also a financial and physical wreck and dead at 35. If he had of been more integrated within himself and society maybe he could have lived to be an old man. Maybe not as great a superstar but he could have been a great father grandfather and teacher to the next generation, who knows?
@@jakedee4117 Mozart's cause of death is unknown and therefore an inkblot. Your explanation reveals far more about yourself and your worldview than it does about Mozart.
@@sunkintree Just because we don't have a detailed modern forensic report and autopsy that doesn't mean that reasonable speculations can't be made. He was ill and in financial difficulties. My point is about the problems and dangers of a "Rock Star" lifestyle and a "better to burn out than to fade away' attitude. We can only see what Mozart has given us not what might have been. There is perhaps a feeling that every part of his life was necessary for him to have created what he did. But I don't think his early death and the early deaths of so many creative geniuses was necessary. It is likely that his creative powers would have declined as he aged that is very common but with a slower paced and more sensible lifestyle could have produced so much more. What effect could Mozart have had on the world as a teacher in his 50s, for example? The effects of a teacher can be infinite, there is no way of telling where they end.
@@jakedee4117 as far as I'm aware there was no "rock star lifestyle attitude" in Mozart's time. Mozart did not feel it necessary to uphold some tradition of rock stars, rather it appears more to me the natural inclination of any human being toward short-sighted sense pleasure and extravagant living when those opportunities are made available to us. As for his impact on the world should he have lived past his untimely death, it's pretty much guaranteed for a good classical composer to have improved over time rather than to degrade. Classical music allows for artists to improve well into old age, unlike popular music styles of the modern day which value youth, bombast and blind passion over skill and improvement. Even someone who lived as extravagantly as Mozart, my money is on our having lost a lot of great music he would have composed rather than assuming he would have degraded as time passed.
I guess this is what Nietzsche meant when he said that we are more in love with love than the beloved
Think about it: if the man had no love from his mother, he had to learn to love himself as a replacement. Now he experiences women as incapable of loving which furthers his own investment in himself.
Narcissism, at the end of the day, is a depleted self that is little nourished from parental love. Narcs parents have their own autoerotic tradition they keep passing on.
This is why i tell people to read religious stuff through metaphore, this shit is literally that sin they talk about that gets passed from parents to kids...
Nope, women do not really love men the same way men love them, their love is conditional and temporal.
@krejziks3398 partly correct. Generational curses are real. But the Holy Bible is more than metaphor and allegory.
@@dontbothertoreply9755 it's not about men tho. It's about their child. And most, most likely do love their child unconditionally.
This is me. I grew up motherless. I am trying to work on it however....it's very lonely.
The woman this man loves, is always more beautiful and perfect from a distance.
This showed up in my feed at the right time. The internet and mobile phones can bring me much needed teachings of being a loving man, from a woman teacher I had never heard of.
I needed these videos when I was 17.
So painfully true.
Well ... she's not WRONG
Devastating and liberating
The movie 500 days of Summer comes to mind.
Straight to the comments
At 1:46 to the end, she mentions that as soon as the transformation starts to take place, other men with an undeveloped anima will try to keep the woman to themselves as an object, which leads to the tendecies of relapsing.
Does that mean that as a man struggles to transform his anima, so should the woman be conscious of this transformation in order to know when she is becoming the object of another man's ideal romanticisms and autoerotic fantasies? That is for a stable relationship to be found.
question is , why the woman relapsing when the man is changing having realistic acceptance of the woman
I believe she is referring to an internal struggle.
As you said, she is talking about what happens as soon as the transformation starts to take place. The transformation is not complete, and the "new" or "transformed" aspect of self has not yet been developed to a capacity where it can reliably or conclusively fend off the defenses and maneuvers of the underdeveloped (yet overly-empowered) anima.
I would like to ask her about women , in particular whether she agrees with the old adage :
'The man desires the woman, the woman desires the mans desire.'
Good observation. It’s like a mating dance between both projections ie the female animus and the male anima
Perhaps a female narcissist desires the man's desire because only then will he serve her.
Or she'll only see herself as valid if desired. There's a great book called
Women and Desire: Beyond Wanting to Be Wanted by Polly Young-Eisendrath @@kirstinstrand6292
I agree with this. The woman desires more than that. But she also desires that.
I aspire for complete fusion between my male and female selves
I seek to nurture my inner child, and I will crush anything that means it harm
I love you and I'm with you ❤ Good luck
learn about nuclear fusion
Mystics in India have a saying that a man(gender) who achieves spiritual bliss or a certain metaphysical achievement becomes feminine by traits. So this checks out perfectly.
i have heard this too from western sources such as Jung. A man integrates his shadow and he gains feminine traits, more graceful, observant, caring for example.
I have observed this. Interesting 🤔
I can agree this is true. Fully realized rather than polarized
I never seen spiritual or metaphysical woman ever …and i have never seen guru whos a woman or gay or i have never seen woman interested in those things
@@ilqar887 feminine not necessarily meaning a woman.
Pretty much us if we were a woman
Still the same no matter the container.
This is brutal. She just broke me down in 2 sentences.
How can that which is never lost be found?
You know psychoanalysis is not a science?
@@walkingwith_dinosaurs Oh, my. Here comes the science straw man again... You don't give a fuck about science. You just want to question other peoples meaningful experience 'cause you are an asshole.
Don't buy it. We all have fantasies about women because we've experienced something close to what we fantasize about. And this is all rooted in the desire to be connected. A man's way of connecting us sexual and we understand sexual bonding more than women do. And we are gaslit by granny here into believing that that component of ourselves is entirely selfish when it isn't. We don't have sex just for purely our own pleasure. For me, I receive the most pleasure when I know I'm pleasing her sexually and she wants to be with me. Because that's my job as a man is to pour my love into someone. And I'm not going to be shamed if sexual love is my favorite form. There's nothing wrong with it. I enjoy all other forms of love too but I'm allowed to pick and choose which ones I enjoy the most.
@@smokingcrab2290 Well, you sound like an expert... Who gives a fuck?
True… giving without expectations is love not always expectating without having intention of giving
The point about relaxing into the old state is real. Its wave like, the tendancies shift between the new gold anima and the old black anima. Im yet to know the dreamer yet, but i suspect that once there is consciousness of the old patterns, they can be avoided in preference for the new evolved state.
Fascinating.
A man's way of connecting is sexual and we understand sexual bonding more than women do. And we are gaslit by granny here into believing that that component of ourselves is entirely selfish when it isn't. We don't have sex just for purely our own pleasure. For me, I receive the most pleasure when I know I'm pleasing her sexually and she wants to be with me. Because that's my job as a man is to pour my love into someone. And I'm not going to be shamed if sexual love is my favorite form. There's nothing wrong with it. I enjoy all other forms of love too but I'm allowed to pick and choose which ones I enjoy the most.
To an extent, you're correct. But you should try to understand the female perspective, as well. In the start of relationships for women, they can be scared of the man. Unsure if he is a r-pist, unsure if he is simply using the woman for her body and may throw her away the moment he gets bored of sex with her.
The woman is capable of reciprocating the sexual aspect of romance, but her primary concern is that she feels safe. A lot of men rush into sexual encounters (due to their fantasies of sex) and they're completely unaware of this aspect of things. Even if you are trying to make sure that she enjoys sex as well, the certainty of whether or not the relationship has a future may not be there. And they may pull away to avoid future heartbreak.
You counteract this fear she may feel by actively participating in the other forms of love. It's about being empathetic and understanding of what may make the other person uncomfortable.
You are wrong. Male s*xual drive is entirely selfish. Men are responsible for over 90% of r*pe. Men often leave women who can't provide them sex due to serious illness like cancer. There are horror stories about men who literally came to hospitals to their dying wives in order to coerce them into performing sexual acts on them, despite their state. There are men who push wives to perform sexual acts shortly after giving birth, when they are not fully recovered yet. There are men who have HPV and other STDs and despite that they have sex with women and give it to them, a virus like HPV which can cause cervical cancer in women. Men who make female birth control ineffective on purpose or make holes in condoms because they want to force women into pregnancy. Men who coerce women into performing unpleasant sexual acts because they saw them in p*rn. I won't even mention that except treating women like free prostitutes, men also treat them as free domestic labour and mental health advisors. All that and they don't even like women as people, men only like and respect other men. Most men are literally parasites on women.
You're taking the term "autoerotic" a little too literally. It's not purely about physical sex in this context, but that a man may make love itself more of a condition of himself rather than a feeling towards a woman. Hence her example of the woman sensing the man courting her is really just emotionally indulging himself rather than genuinely expressing his true love for her as a woman. She makes a great distinction by saying that the woman isn't the subject of his love (like the woman as you may be referring to) but rather his "partner" he needs to feel himself in love, which means who she is isn't important, but that she's there to fulfill his desire to be in love is.
I wish I could do it right. It's all I want to do, and all I can't. No one deserves my flawed fixations.
That is exactly what your underdeveloped anima wants you to believe. Do not listen to her. That is self-pity
It’s seems like tempering that desire is a more accurate perspective than eliminating it altogether
Does anyone deserve anything?
Hm, ye human self, lets be more real than in the head i guess idk
This is amazing. I would love to see the full interview as well!
Aye. Agree. Full Interview please.
here it is th-cam.com/video/yXQTDTcup04/w-d-xo.html
@@callingallrunaways6008 :)
It's from a ten-hour series of MLvF doing dream analysis. The whole thing is up on TH-cam.
I found it split in 4 parts in a TH-cam channel called "Destructard".
Shes talking style and accent exactly same with jung
Swiss-South German accent is really strong. Dig up some audio footage of Einstein he talked like that too.
@@tictactoe101 you're right
No that's a dialect typical to a certain place .
I didn’t start loving my wife until she left me. I love her now more, years later, than I did when we were together.
Then you don't love "her", but your "idea of her". Which is what the woman in the video is talking about. But it happens. I used to believe I was in love with my ex, but I never was. I was in love with the story I told myself of who she was. And when I finally woke up, I realized she never was that. That was liberating. I was finally able to move on.
Get help, really WTF?
The only really perfect love is one that gets away
Do you mean that you did not love her, when you got married?
There is no such thing as " real love ". That in itself is just a fantasy!
Yes there is. It's just not interpersonal love. Love is the love of everything because you've recognized your Self is the Self of everything, so to love everything is to love yourself and vice versa.
Your "love" is my "attachment".
Yeah not my fault, I was murdered, an unnatural death, and now I walk the earth in limbo until the werewolf's curse is lifted and I can stop compensating
Anyone who can suggest any source to check how to achieve the transformation from the black (primitive) Anima to the Golden Anima?
Being pure and building yourself on the concept of true love.
drop the needy part of yourself. do not want anything from woman, focus on being best version of yourself. enjoy the life, not the pleasures of it.
@@adsadsaddFQ exactly , being stoïc help you too.
& @scr scr Perhaps these books by Robert A. Johnson would help, esp 1-4; I've not read #5 (the URL takes you to a list of his books & their reviews): 1) "He: Understanding Masculine Psychology"; 2) "She: Understanding Feminine Psychology"; 3) "We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love"; 4) "Lying with the Heavenly Woman: Understanding and Integrating the Feminine Archetypes in Men's Lives"; 5) "Owning Your Own Shadow: Understanding the Dark Side of the Psyche"; 5) "Transformation: Understanding the Three Levels of Masculine Consciousness".
www.goodreads.com/author/list/6258.Robert_A_Johnson
@@nicholasdipilla6993 "being stoic", key concept :D
Do you know where I can find this interview in it’s entirety? Thank you 😁
It's a full audiobook
"The way of the dream" von Marie-Luise von Franz
I found it split in 4 parts in a TH-cam channel called "Destructard".
Way too accurate 😮😮😮
This lady will be back
I'll be back
I believe this autoerotic love is very similar for the vast majority of the young (male and females) in the Collective West cultures. Only age and unhappy experiences allow for emotional growth. This is what I've learned and observed throughout my life. Young females are as driven towards sex as young men; both are driven by raging hormones - this is how humanity thrives and grows - it's biology.
The east is a bit different
Hormones... or daddy issues...
Is your attribution to Collective Western Culture because that is your only experience? Is anima different in other/Eastern cultures and if so... How?
every time I see someone writing such reflections and add something like "this is what I've learned and observed throughout my life" it feels like I'm reading an esoteric virgin hermit with no distinguishable character features
@@rohan1864 No distinguishable character features from yourself?
I don't usually agree with this stuff, but this is an exception.
“This stuff” meaning?
@@morganroyalty4556 Applying symbolic Jungian terms to real life.
@@GuineaPig361 you can’t really agree with just one concept, it’s all true in parts.
I see it everyday, daddy and mommy issues are part of what attacts people to one another.
Some people aren’t self aware enough to even realise they have them or just don’t care.
That’s because there a lot of new age stupidness that has infiltrated Jungian camps . Von Franz is a direct disciple of Jung with her great contributions to analytical psychology.
But then how do you know when you’re really in love and not just in love with being in love? ( don’t say baby don’t hurt me, genuinely asking):
How do you develop your anima
Post that
Great content by the way keep it up
Record dreams and take note of female figures.
Meditation combined with a virtuous lifestyle and a burning love for Truth will awaken her.
@@ameliaboucher598 Yup. Dream-work is also very important.
I don't like being in love overall....I feel basically embarrassed to feel so much for a woman even though the love itself I need
Interesting. Im totally capable of being in love, but when it comes to sex, I feel gross and embarrassed to submit to women. As I've said for 40+ years, "REAL MEN DON'T BUST". or "real men say NO" to women.
@@Bluzian74same man
@@dullknifefactory Thank you. For once, it's a pleasant surprise to not get trolled or shit on by nasty people. I appreciate it more than I could parlay on here. Namaste.
@@Bluzian74 most people are perverts and couldn't fathom not being so
This is because your mother ridiculed and embarrassed you as the erotic natural wave swept over you. She pushed you away, giving a signal of "you should be attracted to this"
Please upload full interview?
I found it split in 4 parts in a TH-cam channel called "Destructard".
It is surely the same for a woman.
I think she makes some great points and its useful to look at problems from different perspectives however I think she may be doing a disservice by aiming it this issues at men. Now that I’m older, I’ve met just as many woman, that we’re just a dubaucherous as men if not worse. So I have to call bs on some of this
We are just primates. All this overcomplication stems from thinking society is life. Life is life
So what
..womens love is transactional and conditional..
Does anyone know where I can find the full interview? The link in the bio no longer works
Look up The Way of the Dream. It's a series.
@@ElijahABrost Thank you!
Where I can find the entire interview?
Look up The Way of the Dream. It's a series.
How do I improve?
You can have good results with hypnose humaniste.
Read a book by Dr. Carl Jung.
This is brilliant
accidentally sounds kinda racist at the end
Isn't this more typical of modern day romance novels and their readers?
But not all women love to be loved, many want to be an object. And they love the “mewing” man. It is easy to be a philosopher than to love and be loved. Nowadays love is not mutually reciprocated and nonsense like this is the reason.
Boomer
You come from a culture which treats women like an object and limit themselves to be slaves. No wonder you say this. Btw how many wives you got 3, 4 or 5 ?
Women don’t really like to be objectified, their egos do. It feels some void in them I’d assume, the more men who blindly lust after them the more cement that’s filled into the hole. It’s overcompensation for something that was lacking in child hood, same as this would be for men.
Fuul video where
Look up The Way of the Dream. It's a series.
Even that won't be enough for a woman. Good luck!
From my man's perspective, she clearly has no clear impression of the effects of testosterone.
Objective
Object
Objectify
The Impuls comes from the warrior / hunter within men.
I see this insane focus / target fixation in my young, uncastrated belgian shepherd. He's made to hunt.
A healthy man also objectifies women. But he's not bound and doesn't get played by it. He doesn't loses himself in it.
@@Yetipfote Everyone objectifies everyone, women objectify men as well. In this underdeveloped society men have been the ones who had to have money and women have been the ones who had to have beauty, and relationships are mostly an exchange of those objectifications. It's very rare to find love in this society, because most people is incapable of real authentic love. Men see women as bodies and women see men as projects. Then there are few cases of both men and women who are on another level completely, when the spiritual power exceeds the power of the chemicals in our bodies we turn into Masters.
@@goodvibes1397 blabla spiritual power .... show me one single purely spiritual power without chemicals in our body.
And please by the way define what "Love" is. Everybody talking as if they knew .... I NEVER heard a convincing definition ESPECIALLY from very "spiritual" persons.
This is all elitist bull shit!
@@goodvibes1397 The only definition which seems convincing for me is "I want you to feel good and I want me to also feel good"
Brutal
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damn.
wow
This seems feckless compared with female hypergamy
I guess no fap has a point.
but then what about "auto-eroticism"? So Marie = "No Fap" if understand?
Ouch
Is this pseudoscience?
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Daarom zou elke man een zus moeten hebben😁
Every couple years I dive into this sort of stuff just to remind myself how bankrupt and nearly useless philosphy is
Rich people and their big words and sitting around wanking off on life while most of us work to pay the bills
Just wait until general artificial intelligence will be added to robotic humanoid on an economical global scale.
We will heavily steer into communism or neo feudalism.
Bitter women speak
This kind of thinking and framing of emotional and spiritual phenomena in terms of 'masculine' and 'feminine' is extremely flawed, the main cause of todays misunderstandings and 'animosity' amongst sexes and is wreaking havoc in modern western societies; it's also an expression of feminine 'narcissism'.
You realize that your last statement is framing emotional phenomenon in the same way you derided. A thing you said in your first scentence is bad. It makes sense considering that you seem to think these ideas are driving animosity between the sexes, when in reality it your own misunderstanding of the terms as well as why society has such animosity between sexes in the first place within modern western society.
Thus that you have shown yourself to be a hypocrite, in that it is supposedly driving western society apart and is a flawed ideal, yet it is reasonable to use it to describe something. Why use the term feminine narcissism if you think the ideal of using those terms is bad unless you have some agenda. Double thinking, and double speak. I would really like to know how you think it is that it is wreaking havoc in western society because i am sure most of what you point to is a societal problem pinned to something entirely different.
pirangelloferretti3588. No, you poor ignorant fool. She is talking about the INNER self. All men must develop their feminine side. All women must develop their masculine side. In this way, we understand the opposite sex and can love with maturity and generosity. Read some basic books on psychology written by Jung. She was his pupil.
Yeah, women are to Blame and men for being weak and let them vote.
@@bulbo-the-hero What is really wreaking havoc is not unchecked ideals. It is pure interference in cultural norms, fueled by endocrine disruptors. Philosophy and psychology can only take you so far and are insufficient when it comes to grasping the problems western society faces.
'black' and 'primitive'....hmmm
She's not referring to race 🙄😂
Based.
Something about black garments.
Think this is true, until the second question :D
Wtf
Lol
ikr 😂
Sounds like an unfortunately racist analogy.
Sound like an unfortunately race obsessed modern goober.
Ad hominem, you lose.
You do realize that's your projection? Othering happens in many dimensions of life, not just in issues pertaining physical appearance.
@@xXxLPNo777xXx It's more my _perception._ I didn't accuse von Franz of being a racist.
It's no more a projection than recognising a quite obvious sexual innuendo.
Of course, the danger of sending Wolfgang Mozart to psychoanalysis for his puerile behaviors is that he loses his music.
Mozart was also a financial and physical wreck and dead at 35. If he had of been more integrated within himself and society maybe he could have lived to be an old man. Maybe not as great a superstar but he could have been a great father grandfather and teacher to the next generation, who knows?
@@jakedee4117 Mozart's cause of death is unknown and therefore an inkblot. Your explanation reveals far more about yourself and your worldview than it does about Mozart.
@@sunkintree Just because we don't have a detailed modern forensic report and autopsy that doesn't mean that reasonable speculations can't be made. He was ill and in financial difficulties. My point is about the problems and dangers of a "Rock Star" lifestyle and a "better to burn out than to fade away' attitude.
We can only see what Mozart has given us not what might have been. There is perhaps a feeling that every part of his life was necessary for him to have created what he did. But I don't think his early death and the early deaths of so many creative geniuses was necessary. It is likely that his creative powers would have declined as he aged that is very common but with a slower paced and more sensible lifestyle could have produced so much more.
What effect could Mozart have had on the world as a teacher in his 50s, for example? The effects of a teacher can be infinite, there is no way of telling where they end.
@@jakedee4117 as far as I'm aware there was no "rock star lifestyle attitude" in Mozart's time. Mozart did not feel it necessary to uphold some tradition of rock stars, rather it appears more to me the natural inclination of any human being toward short-sighted sense pleasure and extravagant living when those opportunities are made available to us. As for his impact on the world should he have lived past his untimely death, it's pretty much guaranteed for a good classical composer to have improved over time rather than to degrade. Classical music allows for artists to improve well into old age, unlike popular music styles of the modern day which value youth, bombast and blind passion over skill and improvement. Even someone who lived as extravagantly as Mozart, my money is on our having lost a lot of great music he would have composed rather than assuming he would have degraded as time passed.