My auto shop teacher was huge on cleanliness. The shop was immaculate and when we did any work at all (even on our own cars) he would take off points from our grades for untidiness and not being organized. I'll never forget that.
I was told by machinist to use a really high grit steel wool pads on cam bearings and lobes using a really high viscosity oil like drill oil. It worked really well.
The best rocker assembly trick I know is to grab 2 magnet rails from harbor freight, put a strip of electrical tape down the length of the magnet rails to keep from scratching. Lay the magnet rails down the length of the cam journals in place of the cam if you will...and then lift the rockers upward so that the rollers stick to the magnets. This will hold everything in place without the tedious use of zip ties. I've done dozens of engine reassembly like this and it is the easiest way. Works on the newer Honda engines as well. Obviously you're done with this engine assembly, but maybe this could help you assemble one in the future for a customer or if you ever have to tear down and reassemble yours again one day. Also yes, the Hondabond/silicone sealant on the cam sensor base side is also necessary as someone else stated and I believe you already corrected. Otherwise oil will seep out if that crevice under the cam sensors, you may notice that's also where the corners of the valve cover that require sealant as well.
Just finished the Type S pump install on my K24A2 CRX. 45 deg Drag Cartel VTC and timing next. Do you think those 3.2 Drag Cartel cams are good for my setup? More or less?
Brake parts cleaner/soap/ lot of elbow grease . Then a coat of paint. Nothing is stock on this engine. I have a complete build list of videos building this whole engine
I don't remember seeing silicone there when I took it apart and I didn't see anything in the manual about it . I saw one video of a guy applying hondabond there.any links to where I can see that this is a step ?
The mech a nic try going through sergemotives channel. He has one on head assembly. If I get a chance I’ll also take a look at my rsx. The head is still virgin on that one.
You're right. I looked closely at the head and I can see traces of silicone. I'll take it back apart. I appreciate the info. In next video I'll fix it 👍
So you dont have to degree drag cartel cams for K series due to the vtc gear correct? (B series guy here) Just install them bang on straight? Thanks asking for a friend ;)
The cam gear can only go on one way. At that point all you have to do it line up all the timing marks and put the chain on. If i had adjustable cam gears then id want to check everything with a degree wheel
@@themechanic6117 Yeah heard of guys doing this with adjustable gears on the exh side but i dont really see how this can really benefit from it....vtc on intake is where the power is anyway...Thanks for reply
Ooouuhh you in trouble now you put the cams upside down and let the assembly lube drip on the ceiling. Enjoyed the video it's the same Frankenstein build I'm doing
Using the impact is gonna more so damage your vtc gear. When you loosen and tighten the vtc gear it has to be unlocked and then locked when putting the chain on
With compressed air. There is a procedure. It’s just to be sure the pin doesn’t get damaged when being tightened or removed. You would hate to start the motor and hear a noisy rattle for a couple seconds.
Hey man maybe you can help me lol. I was gonna get the drag cartel 2.2 cams but then I saw these (the 3.2). My understanding is that they will make more power but with a choppier idle. I have the stock bottom end so would these cams still make more power than the 2.2? Also can you use the stock k20a2 50deg vtc (I have a k20a2 like you). And if so do i have to limit it in kpro? Thanks in advance.
What’d u end up going with? I was debating it too. I called drug cartel and they advised me to get 2.2 if I was going to keep stock K20 bottom end and 3.2 if I planned to go frank (k20 head / k24 block) tbh I don’t think I’m going frank soon so I bought 2.2’s my mechanic is doing the install this week excited to see how it goes
Is it possible to accidentally assemble the cam gears on the shaft 90 degrees out of sync with the 4 bolts? How'd you tighten those bolts? How'd you hold the shaft? :/
If you lock the cam shafts in place like i showed in the video and line up the timing marks on the sprockets with the chain there shouldnt be a way to install it wrong. 👍
@@themechanic6117 i jus watched a few more of your vids and realized the reasyou use them is because they dont leave fibers on the engine kinda like a microfiber towel
Lol nice detail vid along with the cat noise when torqued down .. jus subbed and will be doing this similar build in the future. I know I’m behind since this vid is a year old but glad that I found ur vid. Currently on fbo with Kelford 179A drop in cams still need retune with the cams
Only thing im missing in DC 3.2s.. Great video brotha 💯😍 built k20a2 head with built k24 bottem & third cams you can make over 300whp ALL MOTOR No Problem with proper tuner.. Thats my Goal 💯✊🙏✌
@@themechanic6117 With my prototype I can advance the ignition timing without engine knocking. It's like having very high octane racing fuel at the same cost of pump gas. I need to build A 16:1 compression ratio NA engine later on for testing.
Yes i have a 90mm throttle body for my setup with the 3.2 cams . Im not expecting it to be exactly friendly as a daily driver. Thats why my crx is just a project car to have fun with and not a daily driver
11:17 bro just always assume you can mix them up the second engine i built i put the crankshaft in backwards xD i had already installed the head and everything and ofc i had to redo everything
It's hard to say . For my setup Drag cartel said I don't need to check for clearance that it should work. You should do more research on your specific block
I few weeks ago I was going to buy a crx from Florida for $2,700 but the guy backed out. I haven't looked for a shell since then. Got other priorities right now
My auto shop teacher was huge on cleanliness. The shop was immaculate and when we did any work at all (even on our own cars) he would take off points from our grades for untidiness and not being organized. I'll never forget that.
Shouts out that mechanic!! I'm learning so much from your videos your explanations are on point.
Thank you ! 💪
I was told by machinist to use a really high grit steel wool pads on cam bearings and lobes using a really high viscosity oil like drill oil. It worked really well.
The best rocker assembly trick I know is to grab 2 magnet rails from harbor freight, put a strip of electrical tape down the length of the magnet rails to keep from scratching. Lay the magnet rails down the length of the cam journals in place of the cam if you will...and then lift the rockers upward so that the rollers stick to the magnets. This will hold everything in place without the tedious use of zip ties. I've done dozens of engine reassembly like this and it is the easiest way. Works on the newer Honda engines as well. Obviously you're done with this engine assembly, but maybe this could help you assemble one in the future for a customer or if you ever have to tear down and reassemble yours again one day. Also yes, the Hondabond/silicone sealant on the cam sensor base side is also necessary as someone else stated and I believe you already corrected. Otherwise oil will seep out if that crevice under the cam sensors, you may notice that's also where the corners of the valve cover that require sealant as well.
Magnet rails also help during teardown...of course.
Thank you for the great tips. Yes the potential oil leaks have been taken care of already. Thanks for watching
I love the gotcha moment with the old k20 rusted cams!
It really sucks but i just squeeze the whole assembly while installing on top, at the same time. My son usually helps me keep the rockers straight.
Just finished the Type S pump install on my K24A2 CRX. 45 deg Drag Cartel VTC and timing next. Do you think those 3.2 Drag Cartel cams are good for my setup? More or less?
I have yet to run my engine so I'm not sure but I've heard good stuff about the 3.2 , I think you'll be good 👍
@@themechanic6117 Hey, do you happen to know what AWD systems are used for the CRX?
Sorry I don't much about that. My crx is staying FWD so I haven't looked into the AWD setups
What is the valve lash for them 3.2 cams
I think I showed it in the video
@@themechanic6117 no I replayed it twice just to make sure but it’s not on there
Damn dude, the harry potter music in the background is awesome
Nice! What did you clean the outside of the block and head with? Is the bottom end factory?
Brake parts cleaner/soap/ lot of elbow grease . Then a coat of paint. Nothing is stock on this engine. I have a complete build list of videos building this whole engine
No Hondabond on the edge of the rocker assembly near the cam sensors side?
Hmm I'll look into it. If it have to take it back apart to fix that it's not a issue. Thanks for the info
I don't remember seeing silicone there when I took it apart and I didn't see anything in the manual about it . I saw one video of a guy applying hondabond there.any links to where I can see that this is a step ?
The mech a nic try going through sergemotives channel. He has one on head assembly. If I get a chance I’ll also take a look at my rsx. The head is still virgin on that one.
You're right. I looked closely at the head and I can see traces of silicone. I'll take it back apart. I appreciate the info. In next video I'll fix it 👍
ASMR video of cleaning parts would get the votes for sure
I have these cams in my K20R engine. I’ll be dyno tuning next week. Will see how they do.
Nice! Can you update me on the power they make?
The mech a nic for sure. I’ll let you know.
@@alatorreconcrete8910 is no news , good news?🤔🤞🏽
Are these recommended on stock pistons?
So you dont have to degree drag cartel cams for K series due to the vtc gear correct? (B series guy here) Just install them bang on straight? Thanks asking for a friend ;)
The cam gear can only go on one way. At that point all you have to do it line up all the timing marks and put the chain on. If i had adjustable cam gears then id want to check everything with a degree wheel
@@themechanic6117 Yeah heard of guys doing this with adjustable gears on the exh side but i dont really see how this can really benefit from it....vtc on intake is where the power is anyway...Thanks for reply
This comment is a lifesaver, Thanks a bunch.
Ooouuhh you in trouble now you put the cams upside down and let the assembly lube drip on the ceiling. Enjoyed the video it's the same Frankenstein build I'm doing
😂👍 thanks for watching. You already know its going to be a quick car
Using the impact is gonna more so damage your vtc gear. When you loosen and tighten the vtc gear it has to be unlocked and then locked when putting the chain on
It doesn't move, how are you supposed to lock/unlock it?
With compressed air. There is a procedure. It’s just to be sure the pin doesn’t get damaged when being tightened or removed. You would hate to start the motor and hear a noisy rattle for a couple seconds.
In my latest video you'll see that replaced the vtc with a new one
Hey man maybe you can help me lol. I was gonna get the drag cartel 2.2 cams but then I saw these (the 3.2). My understanding is that they will make more power but with a choppier idle. I have the stock bottom end so would these cams still make more power than the 2.2? Also can you use the stock k20a2 50deg vtc (I have a k20a2 like you). And if so do i have to limit it in kpro? Thanks in advance.
What’d u end up going with? I was debating it too. I called drug cartel and they advised me to get 2.2 if I was going to keep stock K20 bottom end and 3.2 if I planned to go frank (k20 head / k24 block) tbh I don’t think I’m going frank soon so I bought 2.2’s my mechanic is doing the install this week excited to see how it goes
will a cam swap will help at the drag strip? top end/// Thanks man.
Yes cams normally give more top end power which is good for a drag strip
@@themechanic6117 awesome! if im 108mph et I should i pick a few mph then?
That id dont know lol. You'd have to ask the maker of the cams
Can you use those DC 3.2 Cams in a K20 head, or are they specific? I haven't looked at them yet.
These DC 3.2 are in a k20 head....thats what I have here.
@@themechanic6117 ah, not sure how I got that mixed up. Thanks!
@@themechanic6117 what about a k24a2 head on k24a2 block? Ive heard is about the same specs as the k20/24 frank.
@@themechanic6117 are the drag cartel 3.2 cams not too big for a k20 engine?
People use them in k20s
Is it possible to accidentally assemble the cam gears on the shaft 90 degrees out of sync with the 4 bolts? How'd you tighten those bolts? How'd you hold the shaft? :/
If you lock the cam shafts in place like i showed in the video and line up the timing marks on the sprockets with the chain there shouldnt be a way to install it wrong. 👍
You must have got a lot of extra coffee filters 😂
Always plenty here💪
@@themechanic6117 i jus watched a few more of your vids and realized the reasyou use them is because they dont leave fibers on the engine kinda like a microfiber towel
@@GazBoyZ yes thats right , they work well
Lol nice detail vid along with the cat noise when torqued down .. jus subbed and will be doing this similar build in the future. I know I’m behind since this vid is a year old but glad that I found ur vid. Currently on fbo with Kelford 179A drop in cams still need retune with the cams
Only thing im missing in DC 3.2s.. Great video brotha 💯😍 built k20a2 head with built k24 bottem & third cams you can make over 300whp ALL MOTOR No Problem with proper tuner.. Thats my Goal 💯✊🙏✌
Man I'm hoping I can reach that 300,even if I'm just a little short of it I'll be happy with it 👍
@@themechanic6117 With my prototype I can advance the ignition timing without engine knocking. It's like having very high octane racing fuel at the same cost of pump gas.
I need to build A 16:1 compression ratio NA engine later on for testing.
That Rusty cam had me spitting up pus! You called me right out!
I want these cams sooooo bad..
drag cartel 3.2 cams is gonna be the cebter of my build 💪
I'm super excited about these cams.cant wait till i get the engine running
@@themechanic6117 I went with the 004's on 88mm 12.5:1 cr. Hope it wasnt overkill?
I know someone with them. Its not very idle friendly.then again he has individual throttle bodies so that might contribute
@@themechanic6117 😖and a 90mm TB- Oh gosh, its gonna be so unfriendly to drive isnt it?! Like all or nothing
Yes i have a 90mm throttle body for my setup with the 3.2 cams . Im not expecting it to be exactly friendly as a daily driver. Thats why my crx is just a project car to have fun with and not a daily driver
The cat! 😂😂😂. Great job Jonathan! It's looking great! I'd love to rebuild an engine. That's my dream lol maybe one day
😂👍, you can do it. I got faith in you !
Your suppose to have the VTC unlocked then torque to spec, then lock VTC
You're *
ive done that before with the lost motion springs... chain back on and everything haha
Yeah that sucks ! 😂
You must really like this song.
Do we have to preload the timing chain tensioner 2-3 clicks for these cams?
Drag cartel didnt say anything about that. I made sure the tensioner was tight but i didnt pry on it or force it . should be ok
Coming right along. Looks like you have a cat tail for the rearview too. :-)
😁👍
What head is that PRB-1? K20A2
Yes, its the k20a2 (RSX type s)
Are these cams good for turbo cars?
Im not sure. You can pretty much turbo any cams but I'd check with drag cartel to find out if they have cams for turbo applications
Why didn't you use the K24 head?
The k20a2 head is more of a "performance" head, flows air better . also i find that its very easy to get aftermarket parts for the k20a2 head
The old rusty cam install trick eh :)
11:17 bro just always assume you can mix them up the second engine i built i put the crankshaft in backwards xD i had already installed the head and everything and ofc i had to redo everything
In backwards?? How is that possible? 😂😂 thats crazy
@@themechanic6117 idk man I'm pretty dumb lmao, in my defense it did fit sooo 🤷♂️
It’s not the impact on the cam it’s the impact can damage the vvt gear especially if it isn’t unlocked when your trying to loosen it
The cam got replaced with a pinned DC cam gear
That music man. I love your style man. Lol.
no bearings for cams??
They dont use bearings , the head and cam caps act as the bearings
@@themechanic6117 good to know 🤷🤷
Do i needa check P2v clearance if installing this game onto a stock block?
It's hard to say . For my setup Drag cartel said I don't need to check for clearance that it should work. You should do more research on your specific block
I'm using the DC 004 cam and was told by Jeremy to limit to 30°...
Im using the 3.2 and was told to limit to 40°
Damn... actually starting to even look like a race engine!
Almost ready to take down BMWs lol
@@themechanic6117 Sorry about the late reply... I fell off of my chair laughing hysterically and lost track of time!
So both cam need to align identical?
The timing marks need to line up...
Glad to see the progress. That's coming together faster than I thought. Do you already have the shell this engine is going into?
I few weeks ago I was going to buy a crx from Florida for $2,700 but the guy backed out. I haven't looked for a shell since then. Got other priorities right now
Friend, I need 1 DRAG cartel 3.0 control unit you send to brazil
awesome! Will be doing something similar real soon!
💪👍
Using the impact on the cam is bad because you could break the locking pin in the vvt actuator
Everything got replaced so no harm.
Which solvent you used to clean the parts? Soltec?
With the coffee filters? Thats just brake parts cleaner
@@themechanic6117 thx
Good morning man do you have a video about Kia Sportage 2004 how change timing belt thanks
Sorry I don't have a video on that
lost motion ?
Yes, they have a weird name
@@themechanic6117 thx love your vids and sound bites
LMAO!!! Bro, JK, you had me twisted!!!! Hahaha awesome job 😎
You just threw them on, you don't line anything up????
Of course it lined up and timed . Did you watch my other videos? There's more than this one video on the engine build
@@themechanic6117 not talking about timing, how do you put them in before the top rack, that's critical stuff
A+
Wha is that red oil?
Assembly lube
mate, what in the fuck is that cat noise when u use your torque wrench? lol
Just sound effects lol
👍🤣
Great work .
Good video, just couldn’t stand the music
Yeah it sucks, sorry about that
@@themechanic6117 What! Who doesn't like Harry Potter Music..It was annoyingly Awesome....lol
... that assembly lube looks like blood.
Sure does 👍
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