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In this video we'll tackle legitimacy in the commentary TH-cam community. How do creators share their feeling of lack of legitimacy, why are discussions around those topics so rare and partial? Let's discuss all of that together :)
A big thank you to the commentary youtubers who inspired me for this video, Tiffany Ferguson, Big Joel, Khadija Mbowe, Mina Le, Abigail Thorn and Natalie Wynn !!
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I've attended so many classes. I basically should be a graduate by now.
Youtubia degree, how cool would that be? aha
@@AliceCappelle very grateful for your free tuition paid for by capitalist advertisement that I certainly won't buy into (patreon for your on my list of things to pay for once I'm not an unemployed student anymore!)
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@@lila3372 im sure you’re fun at parties
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what i learned from this is that I watch exactly the same videos as you guys and follow the same youtubers. To me they are awesome, but I realised the YT algorithm has us scarily profiled and I am a bit worried I am in a leftist echochamber
uhhh… hopefully i can word this properly? this is my thoughts on echo chambers, sorry that its so long!
so, if we know anything about right wingers, we know that their main tactic is humiliation in order to feign legitimacy. an additional tactic is self victimization in attempt to retain the legitimacy of their platforms (bestowed unto them… by them). they often use this echo chamber argument and my question is, what is bad about a progressive echo chamber?
progressive ideas, by their own nature, shift and morph to include those they haven’t in the past in a reach towards equality. conservative ideas, by their own nature, stay the same and try to prevent change from what is already the status quo despite the harm those ideas may cause.
confirmation bias is a psychological phenomenon happening in all human brains. and, i think it is important to know how people who aren’t you feel. but conservatives use “echo chamber” towards progressives as though they 1) aren’t affected by confirmation bias and 2) are seeking out and considering progressive ideas, all while their echo chamber (made from blatant lies, misinformation, and humiliation tactics) is both more harmful and has a media stronghold.
leftist ideas aren’t successful and popular the way conservative ideas are. to seek out leftist views is to trudge through an endless information epidemic where progressive ideas are hidden and demonized under the guise of the symbolic violence alice discussed in this video, while ignoring the actual systemic violence caused and perpetuated by the right wing.
i think if your algorithm is showing you leftist content, that is both uncommon and a good thing. if your algorithm isn’t showing you right wing misinfo and propaganda on an internet where jordan peterson, ben shapiro, and joe rogan have some of the most successful podcasts of all time, that’s a good thing.
i still seek out conservative views just to know what they are, but i’m not interested in incorporating their content into my daily rotation as though it is legitimate. whenever i hear them talk about echo chambers i think, “okay, but… what if the information i’m receiving is correct?” the content i’m viewing is scientifically and historically accurate and bibliograph-ied out the wazoo. i think not incorporating right wing propaganda in my daily life is both a non issue and a consistent struggle in a world dominated by it.
these thoughts brought to you by someone who used to worry nonstop about confirmation bias whenever i looked up something that i have experienced and know to be true (and see that it is, in fact, true) because of endless right wing gaslighting about it… all while they accept everything alex jones says with no argument. hope this helps
@@ane3sha thanks for your explanation!! the thing is I am not seeking any rightwing videos, so I am worried that I am getting less aware of the other side's arguments. I actually didnt know JP and co were using the echo chamber concept specifically against the left, I just thouht it is something affecting both sides and preventing mutual understanding
@@ane3sha I think being in the echo chamber matters if you're trying to then convince those in opposition to your side. Nobody is trying to listen to a person that's never even been in their shoes, even if you think you're coming in good faith. Echo chambers become bad when you begin to think everybody sees the world the way your group does, but they just don't know it yet. It might sound centrist of me, but there are some universal principals that both reasonable ends of the spectrum can teach, and it's strange when I see people on the left buck at these ideas as if they've never spent time outside of their college campus (echo chamber). You have to take what's useful and simply leave the dumb stuff where you found it.
Sometimes it also less pragmatic. Over the years I was watching a channel called The Grapevine, a table (before pandemic) discussion on mostly black issues, and eventually fell off because they weren't saying anything they didn't already know. Any counter to their views was meant with hostility from the other guests and the comment section, making any interesting discourse impossible. It would be different if everyone at the table got up and started developing action plans to carry out in their local communities while encouraging other to do the same, but I never got that impression. It was just an amen corner of the same people just talking.
I would recommend looking for people with different opinions and ideology but It's not necessary. It can affect your perception of what's right and what's wrong.
@@ane3sha i am sorry for my wording too but i think you are already in an eco chamber on the basis that you are so against the other side and seem to be sure that the left side is 100 percent. That is what i got from your texts. Are we really progressive if we are dead fixed on our opinion being the truth. How is it any different/progessive per definition than those on opposite side who refuse to listen or change with time as claimed by lefties.
I wish the notion of privilege wasn’t reduced to merely racial/sexual differences. It’s much more nuanced with that.
It's not reduced to that, but if privileged groups can't acknowledge their privilege, they will hijack entire conversations about privilege and lack thereof. Like if a white guy can't acknowledge that they're treated more favorably in a majority white society than an immigrant of Middle Eastern origin, it's almost impossible to have a meaningful conversation about his problems. And there's just something kinda wrong about being empathetic towards someone who isn't willing to extend that empathy to people who are worse off than him, because chances are that any help he receives will be weaponized against those who need it more. And don't get me wrong, I will listen to him. I'll try to help him. But most importantly, I'll try to make him SEE.
So race and sex are the "blunt" conversation starters. In addition to being important, they help us understand how the other person views privilege. Intersectionality is important, but it also seems to be kinda difficult for a lot of people to grasp, either because they have a very romanticized idea of equality, or because their concept of intersectionality has been poisoned by the "if everyone is an individual, then no one is an individual" and "oppression olympics" types.
@Sam Bourgeois I agree that minorities and women have it harder (I am one), but let's not forget that the biggest privileges are money, good health and good looks.
@@xAnonymousComedia money would fall into class, good health usually is about disability which makes sense living in an abelist society, and I'd say good looks is a mixture of racial and gender factors
Disability is a big one that I see get overlooked constantly. Both in terms of physical and mental disability. I feel like even a lot of self-proclaimed intersectional feminists, at least on social media, don't seem to think that much of it and a lot of ableism goes unchallenged.
@@MacZephyrZ disabilities kind of just get to be the outlet of every other marginalized groups angers and frustrations. Every group I've tried to integrate as an autistic and ADHD person has just been casually ableist and I'm just expected to turn the other cheek because I'm a white male. I feel pretty jaded toward and ostracized from "progressive" spaces because of this. Luckily it's not all bad and good people are out there, they're just, in my experience, not online.
The same gatekeeping that happens with the issue of legitimatization in commentary, I feel is the same issue that happens with gatekeeping in academia.
To be part of these circles it is demanded that you assimilate and take off every part of your identity that deviates from the “norm”and not be a threat to the current status quo to be seen as legitimate.
However when did legitimacy become a synonym for complacency?
That last sentence is gold 🔥
"However when did legitimacy become a synonym for complacency?" girl i am flat on my back
You're everywhere lol
For any English speakers who don't know, "Sciences Po" is short for Political Science, and in this case refers to a university focused on social studies in Paris
It’s just so interesting to me that the humanities has attempted to co-opt “science.” Whether that be in the social “sciences” or political “science.” I would love a video on this.
That’s not to say these fields aren’t valuable- they are, but their lack of reproducibility, sufficient definitions and quantitive rigor really does disqualify them from being a science. The arts and humanities are incredibly valuable to society- but why do they attempt to fit the mold of a science- something they are very much not.
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@@jacob9673 there is a field of meta philosophy dedicated to studying the nature of research in the humanities and I'll try to offer the arguments in brief
1. Classically, the research approach stems from two opposing world views. It is either foundationalist; where there is a "real" world that can be "measured" entirely in "facts", and anti-foundationalist; where the world is socially constructed and does not exist independently of the social actors involved. A significant debate lies in how Humanities research should be conducted - should it attempt to imitate the structure of the hard sciences for "legitimacy" or should it acknowledge that the nature of humanities demands an entirely different approach?
2. A third way argues that this is a false dichotomy. In the first place, even in the hard sciences, the socially constructed nature of our world means that the attitudes and values of researchers, institutions, funding bodies etc play a continuous impact on how things are studied and what kind of conclusions can be drawn from it, and the reputation it has of being "infallible" lends it a false legitimacy at times (eg eugenics). At the same time, it's wrong to say that Humanities research is not rigorous or designed to be reproducible - comparative politics relies overwhelmingly on studying quantitative data through statistical analysis, and peer reviewed journals typically require detailed breakdowns of the methodology of any research study so that it can be reproduced by other researchers.
3. Finally, I personally disagree with the sentiment that humanities has co-opted the idea of science because historically, the fields have not always been so rigidly defined. Philosophy bleeds into logic which bleeds into maths, and the methods and approaches used to study phenomena frequently borrow from and influence each other.
Thank you for good info
I'm a physician from Latin America and I noticed a few of these things during university. Here, medicine (and the health-sector in general) is a female-dominated and, indeed, most students were female. Despite this, it was evident that male professors were more respected than female professors. If a female physician wanted to be respected, they had to strongly command it, usually by being strict and the top-notch in their area. Good female physicians that were smart but maybe had a kind personality would easily fall prey of everyone at the slightest mistake. I also noticed that female professors were disproportionately severe with female students, and female students were more vocal about disliking female professors, but maybe this was just my impression.
Maybe your impression is on point. I once read the abstract of a study that said during work meetings, both male and female employees would interrupt female speakers more than male speakers, but female employees would interrupt female speakers the most (and interrupt male speakers the least). Can't judge how accurate/valid the study is though, as I don't know where I read it, so take it with a pinch of salt.
It's odd that the issue of female professors are still less respected in female-dominated field, but maybe the stereotypical image of the white-male professor is so pervasive that it even persists in those spaces.
It's not *just* your impression. I am in the Humanities field and it's the same thing.
@@KarlSnarks I think it has to do with females being more risk averse and agreeable on average when compared to males, hence why this disparity shows up regardless of gender composition of the career path. I do not think this is about stereotypes necessarily, but they could later be thrown into the mix as accidental reinforcement due to useful heuristics (when face with limited and imperfect information) that some people (wrongly or hastily) interpret as rules or how it should be.
Sidenote: Career preference gender differences are maximized in the countries that have gone to the greates lenghts for gender equality while it is minimized in places very unlike those, where usually economic factors are more relevant.
This mirrors my experience in, and observations of, academia as well. It’s no different in the social sciences, social work or humanities. It never stops being crushing to experience and to witness other women being on the receiving end of. A key variable Alice’s video didn’t touch on is that of *internalised* sexism, racism, etc. It is deeply pervasive and insidious. Without awareness of it, women who partake in the undermining of other women just make their own lives harder owing to the fact that they belong to that very class. The most common solution? To separate ourselves from the group, a la “I’m not like the other girls” and all it’s variations. In our attempts to claim dignity and respect as individual people, we further intrench the problem for the social category of ‘woman’. A return to class consciousness and resistance to neoliberalism will be the only way to move away from this state of affairs.
@@withinwithout6263 But what if statistical evidence, once confounding variables are taken into account, does not match what you are so confidently asserting? What if you are just pushing another form of internalized malady and unwittingly claiming it is a cure. Certainly it was my case in my country when it came to economics. The party in power is socialist (maoists specifically), they cannot do everything they said they would do thanks to checks and balances and incompetence, and it has already obliterated around 20% of my savings thanks to their measures devaluating the national currency. They also complained about "neoliberalism" (very nebulous concept with no homogeneous use in academia and that, if I remember well, was coined by a socialist, Rustow I think, to describe what he thought was some sort of synthesis once he became disillusioned with both socialism and a free market approach).
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thank you
I want you out of the 'black studies' box tho....i cringed so hard altho I understand...dun dun dun
This is powerful. I definitely recognize that while I still face challenges on this platform, there's definitely challenges I'm not facing as a cis het man.
It's a weird manifestation of the double consciousness.
This is also why I cite/shout out the content creators that inform my views (mostly black women) even more than I do the scholars whom I've read (who are ALSO mostly black women).
I'm working on a similarly themed video so thank you for this.
ofcourse is nonsense .... a white sewer repairman is privileged over oprah?.... the intersectional model wont resist a basic example because it was made by wackos which now accept the hitler book scriptures just by switching the word jex by white masc, it happened in the real academy acclaimed for its 'excellence' .... theyre just dumb puppets of those who really are running the agenda
@@anandat.2644 i know, it was an scandal even the Portland state university tried to chase the authors with a misconduct process when they used the hitlers book in femix language(switching the word jex by white masc) and not only was published but praised for 'academic excellence' ...but the mob never will admit the manipulation agenda cause it wiil make them feel inferior...so they just resort to denial dragging others and children to a hole
@@neoglacius
There’s different types of privilege
The white sewer repairman has privilege in that
he will never experience or be held back by racism(and everything else that comes with white privilege)
Oprah has privilege in that she doesn’t have to worry if she has enough money to live her life(and everything else that comes with class privilege)
Saying the white sewer repairman has white privilege is not saying he isn’t underprivileged in other areas
Saying Oprah doesn’t have white privilege or the privilege of being a man is not saying she doesn’t have class privilege
@@Kaiexists966 lol no, youre have been brainwashed, each life is unique, its a different universe....their suffering its not a standard.... you know nothing about what do they suffer...can you ever image what it feels to them to became paralized or lose their eyes vision....i do ... im losing it....if you live your whole life as a sewer repairman it never will be the same as living your whole life as oprah in your dam disnelay fashion world...... you wackos are underming the french revollutions and the millions os people that gave their blood for equality and freedom...they fought so hard to makes us individuals and you want to return us to the middle ages from your disneyland bubble....wake up...is not that you suffer... everone suffeers!..... its just that testox inhibits 4xtimes the tears because someone have to face the adversity.. its not that they dont suffer...they just stand the paing without crying... cause nobody will give a bs about them
@@Kaiexists966 and sorry about some bad words, it was hard but i really did my best to not insult you in your Disneyland world because its infuriating.... think about.... it was never about opression...it because technology and the environment is safe now, politics was real bloody sport from all history including the roman empire.... it happens the same in current primitive tribes in the amazon.... since now the environment is safer others wants more....simple as that..... check the workforce integration charts from industrial revolution plus the sanitary techlonologiy progres..... there wasnt about political 'revolutions' it was about technology that now allows comfy work in offices or factories without too much force or risk.... because thats what thid new 'victimsn' are asking now, office and government jobs cuotas.... not working in the sewers or mines ...correct?
Love that you were inspired by that interview to make this! I’m responding to the same group of students and they’ve asked such thought-provoking questions.
Also honored to be a media studies prof ✨ I’ve thought about this a lot! in terms of legitimacy, I do often get self conscious that my work isn’t academic enough, or not blatantly leftist enough. Should I be covering more “serious” topics? Should I be including more ~theory~ in my videos?
My (current) goal for my content is to make accessible videos that aren’t too dense or advanced for a casual viewer to follow. Basically an intro to media studies lmao. And the topics I cover are simply the ones I’m interested in, AND what I feel qualified enough to cover: typically related to internet culture, pop culture, and media criticism.
But I also try to “stay in my lane” especially as a cishet white woman, and remind myself of the privileges that have contributed to my success in this sphere. I’m so glad that we’ve seen a rise of BIPOC and LGBTQ+ commentators because this space really needed it! There are many topics that I am definitely not qualified to cover (especially regarding marginalized identities and experiences related to such), but there are so many creators that can and do cover those beautifully.
Khadija, Mina, Natalie, and Abigail are all on my list of fav creators! (Big joel is great too hahaha) The commentary / video essay genre is so lucky to have them!! Plus I find new smaller channels doing great commentary almost every day, it’s such a joy.
It's so inspiring and motivating, time to take over the world ahah ✨
That's awesome! I would have loved to attend a course taught by you in person! I also think Big Joel (or "medium-sized" Henry) would have been an interesting professor too hahaha
I agree with "staying in your lane" as a topic leader, but privileged people need to engage to understand the issue and what they can realistic do to use their privilege to effect change.
Thanks Tanya
"or not blatantly leftist enough" are you implying that media studies is a left wing echo chamber, I mean in the current environment it is ( and also waste of college education in my opinion) but its refreshing to find "professors" admit it.
I think that symbolic violence also affects how privileged people perceive criticism of societal inequalities. For instance, when u speak about structural sexism or racism in the workforce to white males, they oftentimes become defensive. Symbolic violence occurs, in the sense that they think the purpose of ur criticism of the status quo was to initiate self-blame within white males. When in reality, u were speaking about society in general, and u were not encouraging privileged people to blame themselves for inequalities.
Merci pour la vidéo!! Salut :)
Merci pour ton commentaire ! Totally agree !!
Sorry is there an example of structural sexism or structural racism in the workplace for context? I don't know what this means
@@JasonRDamon2567 Maybe watch the video?
The thumbnail of this video is enough reason to not watch it. Clearly utterly biased garbage 🗑
@@FA9082 such rational, evidence based opinions you have.
9:48 this remind me of a internship of mine. I am foreign but have almost no accent and my friend who was with me there has a big accent. Our customers were African people and our job was also selling via calls in a callcenter. She with the big accent had a higher count than everyone of the interns. I didn’t know why we called the same count of people but she sold more. And I came to the conclusion that African people could actually better rely to her than to me or the others. She came off as reliable and trustworthy because she had similarities with those customers!
Maybe white men is privileged in his home country and in further lands if he goes for work, people respect his effort going to another country. But the same respect isnt given to foreigners from third world countries who try to build something up. They often have to prove himself to others
They white worship. The conservatives in third world countries often tell you to dewesternize and decolonize your mind. Stop looking for white validation
What an interesting insight!
But it’s different since there are factors as neo colonialism and history which changed the relationship people in Africa have with white europeans. Like there is a whole background in that.
And what kinda African people lol? In which country you were
A little bit off the topic of the video, but I have to say: Alice, you are such a big inspiration for me. The way you have inspired and motivated me to study and improve my critical thinking is something that no words will ever be able to express how thankful I am. Please, never stop with your videos
Aww... that's so sweet 😢 thank you so much Bruna xx
Me too!! I’m taking courses on debate and sociology. She is also my main inspiration! She is just so good! She is a seeker of truth and very educated!
The use of ‘the white voice’ is so true for countries where English is not the sole official language. When I went to England, I thought I had a good experience because of my individual personality but the fact that it’s made up of social capital and privileges in education evaded me. I can fit in (kind of) but still remain out of place at some point.
Aap yaha bhi??! Woah
@@sejalp507 Everyone is everywhere. You just know my name now lol
What did you study there?
@@kashishkukreja5904 I went for an exchange program.
Interesting that you didn't have an issue fitting in but still believe there is this concept of a "white voice" when there is a hierarchy of accents, at the bottom are certain regional accents from some of the whitest areas of the UK.
The accent that is most beneficial is RP with is the location neutral, but highly regarded accents include mild regional ones, from certain areas of Scotland, Wales and the North of England. However, along with these are a number of types of other nationalities accents. Mild forms of Asian accents, mild African accents (particularly certain Nigerian ones). These are in no way "white" accents but are still regarded as intelegent accents, more so an North American or Australasian accents.
The worst "voice" to have in the UK are very "white" indeed. People who invent these concepts fail to look down as well as up to understand social phenomena.
I'm guessing the last part is a joke, but it is good to remember that we should never silence people who don't think like us, even if they are a threat to the implementation of our ideologies which we considere the right ones or the truth. Those "Boomers" where once (or still) philosophers, artists, writers, doctors, scientists, rebels, soldiers, teachers and parents. They build a lot of the ground in which we stand today, so it's not good to generalize them and take them for granted.
they have so figured it out that they dont need old people. A simple irony that express a real feeling. Sounds like an old story, and it is.
you don't think we should silence nazis, racists, misogynists? platforming them legitimises their views and spreads it like its okay
@@hazel3390 And that normalization has serious ramifications. Not only does it make their content appear in normie feeds, but it also makes the atmosphere repulsive to minorities and women, and just people who frequently deal with their bs and want a reprieve. The thing is, they're not engaging in good faith. They will lie, smear, distort facts and manipulate to get people on their side.
But I also keep thinking about boomers in particular. Or, well, older people. I look at what my national government looks like, and it's mostly people over 40 years old. So am I, but unlike them, it seems, I try to remain aware of the fact that the world changes. That it MUST change. That WE must change. The politicians are making politics based on a world they came to know which, considering the rate of progress, is now ancient history. Imagine, they don't understand smart phones, or even the internet, but they're making sweeping decisions about them regardless. They're making politics as if climate change was not a reality, and as if they hadn't accumulated and spent all the wealth that was meant for generations to come. Young people despair, and the old people scoff. And I can't help but wonder if giving them political power is a mistake. They're making decisions, but they don't have to live with the repercussions, at least for very long. If climate change precipitates to dangerous levels even in temperate and cooler areas at around 2050, most of the people who made it happen will be on their way out, and at the very least enjoying a pension they secured for themselves, paid by people who might not never be able to retire. Western, white people. Their grandchildren.
@@hazel3390 How can you know your view is the "right" one if you silence the other voices? Only by listening, then challenging them can you legitimize your own views (and change/adapt them when needed). The very first principle of the liberal ideals which have led to progressism is free toughts and free speech. Your view is extremely dangerous, and facist in essence.
@@MN-vz8qm Listening to voices you’ve already learned are harmful just to solidify your own views will do nothing but leave you drained if you are personally affected by said views, there’s a lot of discussions that can have a healthy amount of discourse but being a black person constantly listening to vitriol from those that believe you are lesser solely because of race does NOTHING if you already understand why racism is wrong.
someone once told me that they like their knowledge packaged as professionally (meaning academical) as possible, so they don't like philosophy tube like channels where education is turned into entertainment, but they also like a entertaining educator as they don't understand anything academics say.
i and many people find professional type education really hard. the way academics like people talk is too hard to get and everything flows over my head. it makes me feel dumb and want to leave it there. traditional education never worked for me, i could never learn or read like most students, i believe most of us just pretended to be a good student at school. but i find other ways of learning very useful and i took help of a lot of entertaining sources to learn a lot of academic stuff for class.
and an entertaining educator really makes it a lot easy for everyone. serious people make it all about facts and like the things we learn has no impact or meaning in the world or in our like. at some point you need to ask why we are doing this. using entertaining ways like contrapoints and philosophy tube is a really good way to reach more people and easily tell them what you want to tell. also you get to be a type of artist and that is a talent we rarely appreciate in people. like the way we view education and educators is so close minded, like there is only one right way to do things in this world.
Fascinating as always! Haven't really got anything to comment on concerning the topic but just commenting bc I appreciate the research and work you put into these videos and they're always so interesting!
Thank you so much for this video. You articulated so well a vague feeling I couldn’t put into words, especially the part about symbolic violence and not conforming to what intelligence “looks and sounds like”. Really excellent work!
This reminds me so much of the Netflix series, The Chair 😂 that series gave me the stress and I'm not even in academia
I'm so happy you mentioned Jordan Theresa, she's so smart, and does not fear to be ✨herself✨. While her aesthetic choices feel disruptive for an academic environment, she is so thorough and I have started like her videos more and more with every new video she posts
Hey! I am one of the Sciences Po Paris student who interviewed you. First just wanted to say your answers during the interview were extremely useful and insightful, and secondly that this video provided us other paths of answers that we didn’t think about. Love your analysis as always!
Merci Juliette !! 🥰
i couldn’t even sleep and it’s 3 AM here, but hey this commentary really starts my day at least :)
It is an interesting time to see such diverse faces and voices gain such popularity on youtube. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out...like when the boomers start dying off or when your voices just become too loud for MSM and politicians to ignore! Great video as always. 😊
This video is not only a great commentary about academic culture, but also a very good source to discover other high quality youtubers!
My new side hustle is looking for people who create knowledge in new and different ways and it’s a process where you can’t be right all the time. Sometimes you’ll stumble upon something great and the next moment it’s someone who thinks ‘Atomic Habits’ and ‘Ikigai’ counts as a personality.
Can you share few creators. I am interested.
@@AbdulBasith-vh8bs Yeah, I’m not taking names. It’s evident there are well-known creators.
Do you recommend any creators?
Here in case you leave some recommendations
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Encore une vidéo qui prolonge la réflexion et me pose des questions nouvelles! Il fautTELLEMENT que tu fasses des vidéos plus longues... Plus, je voudrais tellement plus !
Miss Natilie's political video essays that focused on one topic. Still love her, 2016-19 Contrapoint's are my fav stuff on youtube. :)
She's the queen of TH-cam, we all stan
@@AliceCappelle oh we Stan
The videos I return to over & over & over again, genius really.
I honestly miss the socratic dialogues
@@kepofk7545 they’re the best!
wow! this was an amazing video for sure. I really appreciated your putting into words something I've never know how to describe (symbolic violence). I certainly benefit from many systems but this is something that's been on my mind lately and I appreciate having the language to now explain what I've been thinking about. as ever, an extremely informative video. thank you!
Hey Alice, I'm really happy and inspired by your content! I always learn something new! :')
TH-cam and universities are wildly different platforms that pursue different targets, even though they have some content similarities. So comparing them, even as a part of a mental exercise might complicate things. Also not sure if algorithms have oppression biases in them, rather virality and attention time are at the head of the table.
I love how you can explain such a subject in simple and understandable words - and terms.
We studied Bordieu in University (Sociology) and I feel so smart now 😂
Yesss, he's the best ✨
You know you're early when there are three different people claiming to be the first viewer. That aside I am pretty hyped for this video.
You’re right about the intuition bit. Sometimes I feel that when I say something, I invalidate myself by saying that it’s made up and based on reason and experimentation.
Thanks for putting this out there. You put that feeling in words very well.
thank you for introducing me to a term, that finally gives the feeling i've had an actual definition
i've never heard of 'symbolic violence', but it's exactly what me and my friends have been describing regarding our professors at university. they make you feel like you have to fit a certain mold in order to study architecture. you can't have a job, you need to think in a certain way, present yourself and your work in a certain way, there's no room for unrealistic, idealistic speculation and exploration. the curriculum and the way architecture has been taught at our university hasn't changed in over 30 years but it's still being considered an "excellent" university, despite not giving a shit about their students and if they feel legitimate or not. and it's not a coincidence, that almost all of our professors are white men, too.
merci pour ton video :) greetings from luxembourg
and what exactly is "violent" about that?
By the example you were using, I could use the term "symbolic violence" for everything non-violent I don't like.
Apart from that, I am appalled by the racism and sexism you show towards white men.
you're very good at articulating your points and I was engaged the entire time through this, which is rare for the kind of attention span I have
Your video essays are so good!
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the asymmetry of perceived legitimacy on TH-cam is insane, thanks for verbalising it
The problem is, you perceive it and therefore doesn't mean anything. Focus on arguments rather than trying to narrate fairy tales
Its funny how i personally see them all. I do not like to take just one side, ok maybe i dislike somehow ben shapiro (idk very well usa-s political views and stuff, im not interested in that country)... but all the other ones, i love. I have some ozher more women and men on youtube that i love watching and i follow.
I used to see Jordan (and i continue to do si especially with his podcast and also Mikhaila's podcast) a lot and i thank him for what he has done for me personally, with this being said, i do not like cancel culture and i am very sorry if someone is offended by that. I do not believe in cancel culture because i think, people should always be different and thank god we do not live in a homogeneous society. The moment we become like that, we are doomed eternally.
I come from a communist country my parents and sister and brother were raised under that type of political system, i knkw what it brings. I do nkt accept that kind of life so i personally, again, will nkt accept any kind of cancel culture.
I suggest hannah arendt books on systematic political ideologies, i also suggest reading some of zizek's books and ofc, others.
Other than that part of the video, i liked this essay very much. And i hope there are more women and black or asian or indian or other races in leadership positions. We need it and its already time for that. 🌹
Can el culture is not real it does not exist
I’m not an “intellectual” person. I’m neither “legitimate” nor “amateur” so idk if this is a valid critique. I’m just thinking out loud as a dumb af person lol. This video feels like a very unnecessarily long-winded and disorganized essay despite your important points. Yes, us members of the minority have to work at least 5x as hard + remove any trace of our not being white male. Yes, a body of knowledge that stems only from the same people (white male/female professor) will be bland and insufficient. Tbh, I got a bit lost what the purpose of this video is. Maybe I just need to rewatch it 😂.
For you, what would be better parameters of being a “legitimate”? Also, can you share where is the line of commenter, intellectual, academic, etc.?
Aside from that, your funny remarks (yes, I too, am guilty of this humor) towards the end about Boomers also doesn’t help - it further divides us as non-Boomers vs Boomers while also giving ageist vibes because of the false generalizations per generation. I say this because humor is powerful and easily digestible. It sticks. If we have any desire or intention to break the illusion of what we currently think of as “the only legitimate”, I don’t think this kind of remarks would help, if that makes sense. Like, we’re bickering and not having any actual progress? The people behind the structures don’t get the appropriate amount of attention because we’re all busy with each other.
Also, how do you differentiate content that is primarily labeled as entertainment like TH-cam vs academic knowledge? TH-cam for me, is entertainment no matter how educational some videos can be. If Academia is a mess despite having strong emphasis on research, evidence, and peer review, I don’t think I’ll ever view TH-cam as anything more than what it is. If I watch a professor’s lecture on youtube, I feel like it’s still just entertainment. even the tutorials/courses here feel the same because of the conflict between my existing knowledge, learner level, and lack of structure. should I feel different lol?
I hope you don’t take this negatively. 😊 again, I am sincerely thinking out loud and asking these questions. it has been a long workday.
good points
People can use their marginalization to upgrade their social currency . In real life that shit will get you hate crimed.
Also good points(your not as stupid as you might think)
Same thoughts. Thank you, enjoyed reading my own thoughts put in better words XD
>Yes, a body of knowledge that stems only from the same people (white male/female professor) will be bland and insufficient.
This seems to imply polylogism or some epistemological standpoint theory kind of approach, which are utter nonsense. I agree that academia needs diversity of thought (just see how meta-analysis such as that of Tess Lawrie regarding ivermectin are met by corporate media and good part of academia), but I do not think that people of certain race or sex WILL NECESSARILY lead to a certain type of content being produced (bland and insuddicient as you put it). Hell, we even need institutions beyond academia to make sense of things or for when the academia gets infected by some sort of memetic hazard, so to speak.
@@sebastiansirvas1530 the ancient Greeks really produced utterly bland and "white" academic works.
I'm agree with you, it's one of the reason I delete all my private social media accounts. I used to share my opinion on social media about a certain things, but then I stopped. To share unpopular opinion is too much responsibility that I can't take, when it's gone wrong, I feel marginalized by them. No matter what opinion I write, they always demand a fact. Yet those other people who so picky to show them a research study, are much being loved, and trust. Now I do what I wanna do without telling what I know, what I experienced to anybody except they ask me. It's quite sad, but now I feel joy.
Yet, when i try to fight against discrimination system on public discourse, I feel that what I did just become contra-productive, it creates people more and more hate each other, including peoples around me. My circle becames more and more fragmented and fabricated by hate than only by different ideology.
Just stumbled upon ur video and it's captivating! Just sat through it in a blink of an eye.
Did I... did I just witness the birth of reasearch-based TH-camr fan fiction??? wooow
The satire at the end. haha. Anyway, good video, I found the ideas and theories very intriguing and they challenged my own nicely. Keep up the good content. I think ive watched 10 of your videos since finding your channel the other day. I defiantly am part of the majority in which you critique but i like your arguments and have changed some of my stances on things after watching some of your videos and did some extra research on the topics.
Love your videos! Every commentary is a piece of art!
I love your video style. It's so perfect!
Thank you Alice for this video!
I love you so much! lol sorry I just love your videos, thoughts, ideas, opinions, voice, humor, and more 😍
keep the great content, so much love from Saudi Arabia :)
I really liked the video and the comparison between TH-cam comentary youtubers and University professors, I think is a simple way to illustrate what happens in spaces where people share their knowledge and teachings to the world (how it's defined what is considered worthy of being learned and the relation with power dinamics and social structures). I really feel like I have been educated by TH-cam and I wouldn't be who I am and think what I think if it wasn't for this platform; I started watching video essays and comentary youtubers when I was very young. I was exposed to the more conservative side of TH-cam for some years and, while I recognice the dangers of being in there, I wouldn't have it other way because that led me to easly "transfer classes" when I found other youtubers who chalenged what I was being told about the world. That wouldn't be as easy in actual teachig institutions (at least in my country, Uruguay) where the variety in teachers and intellectuals isn't as wide as in this platform, and where knowlege is percived as a unity, and the voice of reason can only claim certaing things (that voice being frecuently of white, older men).
I am so thankful for all the perspectives that I have learned in this platform, especially for the one that shows that what is truth and worth listening to isn't simple, clear and easly understandable. It needs compassion and an openees to hear what the world that you're not part of has to say about "The world" and human experience in general.
So, thanks to you too Alice, I'm eager to keep coming in here to listen to your lectures 😊
Me pasó lo mismo, siendo también de Uruguay. Qué lindo encontrar a alguien de acá en un espacio así
@@saltbending9701 Recién veo tu comentario, realmente qué curioso y qué lindo encontrarnos por acá! Y también el compartir cierta experiencia con la plataforma. De verdad que TH-cam, más allá de lo que se le pueda criticar, abre la puerta a cosas interesantes 😁
La raza de quien transmite lo que pretende ser conocimiento no es relevante. Lo que es relevante es si coincide con la realidad (ver evidencia y poder de predicción del modelo) y si tiene coherencia interna.
@@sebastiansirvas1530 de hecho si es relevante
@@ii-dh7lq No, no lo es. Un enunciado es verdadero o falso, conocimiento o patrañas, de manera independiente a la raza de quien emite el enunciado. Creer lo contrario es "standpoint epistemology" (o teoría de punto de vista), la cual es una gran patraña.
I really like how you articulate your thoughts! Definitely something I need to work on
A very illustrative parallel (between yt and uni)!
are you on Letterboxd btw? Seems like I could get some interesting movie recs from your watchlist :)
Wait, so is her point that insisting on evidence based arguments rather than intuition is upholding an unjust, racist, sexist etc hierarchy?
I’ve rewatched this video three times and I still can’t clarify her point here. As someone who enjoys all the content creators she mentions on both “sides” I really want to fully understand the argument here.
who do you believe relies on solely intuition of the youtubers mentioned? alice mentions which ones cite their research
I love your videos, may I ask what did you study at university ? :)
I saw Khadija in the thumbnail and I thought to myself: “Is there tea to be spilt? Is everything ok? Is shade being thrown?”
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(Spoiler Alert: There’s no drama)
That was my exact first reaction for some reason
I was pleasantly surprised to find it was all love!
Same. Definitely an effective way to drive engagement, lol
That subject is so relevant and I wish more people would talk about it without being butthurt and crying "anti white racism / sexism against men" lol.
I see that as a former sociology and art student in France, when I was simply talking about my experience and the history of french colonialism, how people here see me as a caribbean black woman, I was more questioned and the attention got to the white teachers that "studied these issues" by reading books. Even in French media we see how Pascal Blanchard (white man, colonialism specialist) gets way more attention than any brown decolonial scholar that, in addition to book smart have the experience.
Even in the group of people outside of white men there are issues of legitimacy.
As Kat Blaque and For Harriet said, any white person's voice (including white women) on minorities' issues are way more taken seriously and get more positive attention than the actual minority talking about their experience. White women do not "escape" the privilege simply by being women and that also needs to be addressed. Especially in France where I feel like being anti-racist, intersectional feminist is seen as moral and a must among white scholars/students but we still struggle very much to actually look at ethnic differences and listen to the minorities as a society. It can be a shield against seeing our own privilege (don't know if that makes sense, sorry for the pavé mdrr)
Very interesting video as always. I love how you use TH-cam for a collective thinking place
In one of Bret Weinstein's early Dark Horse podcasts he said something interesting to Mike Nayna about there being something like two big struggles in civilization - one is for adequate sense-making and finding truth (people like Daniel Schmachtenberger, Jordan Hall, Rebel Wisdom, and a lot of the Game B personalities stand out for me in that area) and the other portion is Darwinian evolution, which is survival of those best armed with short-range social violence tactics. I see the later on display, horribly, when I turn on a US presidential debate and you get to see where the people who are talking to the audience like third grade teachers and have the most name recognition and inside connections do best whereas those with great ideas in the analytic sense and even a savvy way of presenting it (Yang being a great example) don't just get ignored but get shoved off to the side, get their names bungled, etc. in popular media.
This is where when I look at race and gender discrimination in work places I really just see people taking whatever characteristics they can in other people to win a fight by playing dirty and it just happens that, race and sex being largely immutable (at least the former), makes it quicker math to exclude or remove people by than trying to character assassinate someone of the same race or gender (which they'll still do - it just takes more work). I debate whether it's just a product of when I grew up but our will to distort reality seems to have gotten worse since the 2008 crisis and it seems to come as a sign that our societies have been internally weaponizing against each other due to a loss of growth. To some degree the power through violence game has always been here and it take a lot of vigilant people to slow it down or craft the right rules to disincentivize it rather than having it just change shape.
Heyy, just a small thing: our sis K's surname is misspelled on the Close Captions as Mbowi, when it's Mbowe...
I'll just say it: Lindsay Ellis is well above that hypohetical University.
Been binging these videos. Really good content.
This is video so important.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Internalisation of symbolic violence is so prevalent these days its hard to understand and really know “why i am doing what i am doing” (truly essentials for papers or just to prove my point more clever therefore feeling deserving to sit and be part of intellectual elite) - especially in academic environment or seminar discussion.
Hey Alice, could you show us how you edit yout videos? The behind the scenes
Harry Brewis would be the rogue student who smashes the wall with an axe, The Shining style, during professor Shapiro's lectures. Oh, and can we get Lindsay Ellis to teach Disney studies?
Disney studies YES!
Love this!
Let me start by saying that i liked your video and i am sympathetic to most of your points.
But there are 2 points that I take an issue with as a white hetero male who thinks of themselves as socially and financial privilleged.
I have lived as an expat over 10 years in germany and as i too made some progression into the ladder i noticed the same pressure you mention. I felt i had to work twice as hard, i felt like an imposter most of the time, felt i was under a lot of pressure. I sometimes did think that if i was german, or had german Accent my life could have been easier. But for the most part i felt like this was an insecurity of mine and had little to do with reality as most people seemed accepting. In any way i experienced many of the negative emotions about myself and my privillege didn't prevent them from happening. In fact i became more and more germanised and adopted more and more to the environment.
Could it be that these emotions are not only through the power structures to explain but a necessary process once you find your self ascending the ladder of an institution or corporation? Could it be that after some point your previous competence, work ethics and talents won't do the job that easy any more ? Could it be that even the men who are up the ladder experienced similar emotions but them being men they didn't feel they have to talk about ? Is hustling all that is or is there maybe a rite of passage (a really manly analogy i suppose) you have to go through without it being a toxic phenomenon ?
I can imagine the shapiros of this world would turn your argument around that you simply want the institutions to help you not feel bad. I don't think that this is the case though. Just saying.
2nd point : the jokes you make about putting boomers on another planet or canceling their vote out are certainly meant as a pun but one could easily interpret it as just another snow-flaky and entitled individual who wants to get rid of any contrasting opinion.
save your breath, your experiences are irrelevant and wont fit the narrative, they need a universal scapegoat for shift blaming because humans love to put guilt in others to justify their problems, its a new antihumanist agenda , in the same german from 1940s did , even it was scientifically proven, that anger is the emotion that is most easily propagated, thus recruiting cheap cult members at low cost , to continue the agenda and harvesting cheap vote and raising state-debt profits
Exactly what the video said, symbolic violence is translated into individual struggle. If you think it's hard adapting into the German work culture, think of people of colour. And the second opinion, well, if their opinion literally destroys the people and the world, it's no longer an opinion but ongoing acts of violence. You forget that opinions don't just equal a few words but they correspond with actions that contribute to the oppressive norm as explained in the video. They don't want changes because they benefit from it best compared to the others.
@@maxmustix I don’t think you know what the word violence means…
Alice, you must be one of the few TH-camrs with amazing viewer retention. No pause shall be granted before I hear the conclusion. Greetings from Vienna!
aww thank you 🥰
This video made me more sad than I anticipated to make myself tonight
I love the approach.
There is a fundamental difference in europe's free universities that exist to increase human knowledge and anglo-saxon "universities" that cost money.
Excellent introduction/ concept but don't quite agree with the commentary thereafter. I follow Professor Jordon Peterson and Mina and respect them both but not sure if it is a fair comparison to paint them with the same brush. To illustrate my point, I will take JPs take on psychology over Joe Rogan. Both white male but JP has professional qualification and experience to talk in his field of expertise. Similarly, I'd take Dr Esther Perel's advice over a youtuber without similar credentials. Their gender and race is immaterial to me. Reversely, I will not take fashion history classes from JP. I will trust Mina more than JP on that. It isn't so much about the race and gender for me as it is about their experiences - be it qualification or from life.
In the past, youtubers could make videos on more serious subjects without much criticism. With time, professionals have joined TH-cam and as a result it has attracted audience who will question and critique.
Non-white female here 🙋🏽♀️
smart comment, i feel the same way !
While you're right for a person such as yourself, it's worth remembering that for a lot of people race and gender are important.
Take the sceptic movement that transformed into the antifeminist anti-SJW movement. They were predominantly white male with VERY little knowledge of the social sciences and history. But without missing a beat they pivoted from critiquing young earth creationism (quite effectively and with good evidence) to "destroying SJWs with facts and logic." Yet the vast majority of people took no issue with these rank amateurs tearing down gender studies professors, sociologists etc.
I can't help but feel that race and gender do have a role to play here for the majority of people even if people like ourselves are more careful. Many people genuinely think Peterson having a PhD, his white maleness and demeanor, and being able to speak confidently makes him qualified "enough" to talk about pretty much anything. Even if it operates on a subconscious level there's plenty of evidence for this low barrier to entry for some and not others.
@@IshtarNike lol
Anti feminists are unqualifed to talk because they dont have a social sciences background > brings in an actual psychologist with the background >still not qualified cus of his white maleness
Yeah i dont think feminists will ever listen to men. They whine about misogyny while purposely ignoring misandry. Calling the unprivileged group of men privileged and villifying them....I wonder why those young men turned into anti feminists...WHAT A SUPRISE
I am in agreement with most of what you’re presenting as I wrestle with this very same exclusive club after finally graduating last year. However, surprisingly what constituted this sour experience was from a women majority, left intellectual activist department. This is where the dilemma lies, as sometimes one finds that the assimilation process is binary and operates through both patriarchal as well as matriarchal orders irrespective of the institutional framework. Perhaps the very capacity for what constitutes a good curriculum, a fair teacher or even a reasonable education platform has been destroyed.
I would say that your analogy is valid in 2015/16 TH-cam, however around 2017 TH-cam decided to take opinions on the content uploaded and so the content seen by viewers is no longer random but promoted. This leads to people, who may otherwise find the content themselves, being pressed into watching these more diverse content creators.
Having said that, I very much enjoyed the video and your perspective was cool and delivered in a nice manner. Hope you have a nice day.
All my favs were mentioned 😅. Great video!
This video and especially the concept of symbolic violence is something that really resonates with me. I am currently studying psychology, which even though most students are female where I live, somehow still very clearly perpetuates a certain discredit of them. The very few male students in my year are almost exclusively the ones that are praised or respected by both students and faculty, which becomes even more painfully obvious due to the aformentioned gender ratio. And I feel like this also influences the way in which it is way more common for especially the female students to try to compensate for that by confirming to certain, very often conservative ideals of gender presentation, clothing style, language etc than I was used to experience even a year before in school, as it was more accessible. This contrast seemed especially harsh and really reminded me of the many inequalities and discrimination still instilled in this educational system.
psychology is not a science
dammit you changed all their names. What is 'mona le's actual youtube channel? I want to check them out.
Mina Le ! The Fashion History queen of TH-cam
@@AliceCappelle Thanks!
Thank you. Your videos are amazing.
Interesting perspective. Good job
Liked your creativity on explaining your point 👌
This is one of the best topics that you have discussed on your channel.
Before I started watching your videos, I always felt like TH-cam commentaries like your videos were always so annoying and condescending which always turned me away from the ideas many of them tried to express. However Alice, the way you approach your essays is so easy to digest with no tone of superiority that I find myself watching your videos all the time and thinking about a lot of concepts I never used to be interested in. All this to say, you’re doing a great job and I hope I can introduce some of these ideas to people that I know
Thank you Erik 😭✨
I watch every one of them on the thumbnail except the two
I hope mentioning all of them in ur video can bring exposure from their audience .
I have attended class of more than1k professors (according to your analogy).
I would like to pronounce words like you. We can recognize others' intellectual by their logical statements. But haven't we all felt like frauds no matter our profession? I focus on the wins to help me feel worth my pay.
Great video thanks! Good analogy
Its amazing how deep your mind is on political agenda, I mean I can`t judge your background because I have no information about you but you take some topics like you know what you are talking about but sadly most of your arguments are biased by your own prejudice and in the end I just see most comments like an echo chamber of your words, when in fact you are not talking about science facts but human behavior
you probably wont leave this comment on a jordan peterson video despite him fitting this exact description, even twice as more lmao. she is a progressive youtuber dumbo.
@@mdh_masalewale8681 being progressive doesn't mean you need to say yes to everything you see
I really like your videos im a Whitexican Male so i guess i can fall in any definition. I totaly experienced what you are talking about I had to learn english but not only that learn the culture and act like americans, because i hated being single out. Its definitly a strategy for survivor. In any ways I do dislike many of the Boomers point of views but I belive hating them or just ignoring them is not the answer. The mentality us vs them is very distructive. In general im very exceptical of any group[ thinking. I really wish people would be recgnized for their work and talent and not for what sex , color or regilion they are from. Most succesfull people that I know are too busy being to succefull to be hating on others and is something I try to do in my life. Here in mexico people are very rude and inconsiderate , but i know is my fault for living here. So the best thing I can do is have compasion for them.
Its hard.
Love this video!
Could u leave the 3 rd and 4th people u introduced in the vid, they seem like they might b commentray im guessing
Thoughtful and interesting thank you.
I was thinking about not cancelling a whole generation's right to vote but making the vote of one generation (yead of birth) equal to another. As in, all people who voted that were born in, let's say, 1982 have the same percentage as a whole as all people who voted who were born in 1999 for example.
Or Gen Z could just actually vote instead of destroying the voting franchise. Of course, I'm sure you'd accept the boomers votes counting as much as gen Z when the Boomers are in their 90s and mostly dead?
regarding the fears of the invalidation of a perspective due to it being "just personal experience," i think it's important to remember that personal experience is just as real as anything else in the world. "facts and logic" while they can be useful, can't take away the fact that you did have the experience.
critical race theory (and critical theory more generally) takes this approach - it centers itself on using story and personal experience to provide a counter-narrative to presented facts that may be oppressive in nature.
this act of evaluating each perspective in its own virtue, on its own terms, can be very liberating - in a warped legal or scientific epistemology, it can be incredibly difficult to counter such an argument on its own terms. realizing, however, that experience should be observed as experience - and not in the reference frame of a statistic - provides the necessary perspective shift to being able to value and validate one's own personal experience :)
are you kidding me? Facts and logic are useful ,because you can not cry them away. Your personal experience can be victim of all kinds of distortions of perception
I am pretty sure I am conservative as in my values and beliefs but, I enjoy listening to people who think differently. So I got here even though I’ve probably watched thousands of hours of Jordan Peterson. I don’t agree with some of this girl’s views but it’s interesting to hear what she has to say.
Great video as always !! I was not acquainted with the concept of 'symbolic violence', which might actually be the key to unlock some areas of my own research. Bourdieu is definitely next on my reading list, thanks for the idea !!
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I feel like diversification for the sake of it is a very bad idea. Each creator/thinker needs to just be offered equal access to the platform and after that, meritocracy should run its course.
We indeed all have paterns that are ingraned both naturally and through experience. But that should not limit our ability to be flexible and open to perhaps changing them. This is what the focus should be
But it wouldn’t be for “the sake of it” these voices are important no matter what.
@@pinklove798 sorry, you gotta earn your place at any table, as long as it's a fair selection process
@@mariomolnar3184 how do you know they didn’t though? It’s the assumption that diverse hires didn’t earn it in the first place.
@@pinklove798 did i say they didn't?
@@mariomolnar3184 but you’re implying it which is wrong.
Being pretty practical about it I would say the thing is that the other side is willing to attack us without any respect. So, it is not productive for us to just try to communicate with them and say "sorry" and "excuse me", obviously that's not gonna work. We should just do the same as them and give back their hate. Unfortunately that's how the things work
Oh, and of course I HAVE TO remember the fact that Peterson is a fuc*ing hypocritical: the man who say that everyone have to be strong and not being a "victim" went to a fuc*ing hospital because he was lost in depression and got thousands of doses of medications HAHAHA I laughed so hard when I found out.
Who is the other side? Is TH-cam only a tool in a political war?
Who is your enemy?
A random enjoyer of Jordan Peterson from other part of the world?
If so, here I am. Probably we have different opinions on many subjects. But that doesn't mean we can't make things better. Just maybe in a different way. But that's ok. After all each person has own unique perspective. Own important values. And we all need each other. Have a nice day ❤️
Merci pour cette superbe vidéo / Thank you for this video !!
I like some of her content but as someone that disagrees a bit with some of what she said on this video. I was kinda scared, is that how people think? That people who disagree should be prohibited to vote? I guess she was half joking but still
Thank you for this topic. Back in uni, our teachers have handed us the reality that we aren't equal all along which broke our heads 😭 but that was the start of thinking critically and how differences doesn't and shouldn't mean inequality.
why equality is a good thing?, actually is the opposite, equality alone means serfdom
@@neoglacius you mean you like the fact that people are treated differently because of their gender/ origins/ social origins ?
@@lazyzombie5138 of course, you forget about freedom ( NBA colorplayers are majority vs orientalplayers which is unequal but is a free choice), also the humans rights were created to stop the gov and the rich from stomping your individual freedom and rights... you need both equality and freedom so never trust reductionist manipulators that only points obsessively about equality , cause it means the end of liberty since they claim for a super centralized gov with unlimited power based on debt thus owned by the rich and the bankers , also a gov that watch you 24h and strangles you with taxing but you dont have any control about how they spend it(no more wars) or to change laws against corruption( the politicians never will rule against themselves ), NEVER TRUST EQUALITY REDUCCIONIST cause they look for serfdom without freedom
the fact that im already laughing simply at the "small joel"
that's a good start aha
hey alice, could you put the real names of all the youtubers you discuss in the description?
sure ! I'll do it now
This must be the cleanest comment section on youtube where topic like this is discussed.
You really remind me of Clarice Lispector for some reason. Awesome video and channel!