Toyota Landcruiser LC200 vs PRADO 150 | Is the 200 worth $20k more? | Size, weight, fuel, capability
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- Today we talk about the two models of Landcruiser made by Toyota. Of course we are referring to the Toyota Prado 150 series and the Toyota Landcruiser 200 series. There are not many manufacturers out there that make two highly capable off-road vehicles in their lineup, so today we talk about the differences and whether or not we think the 200 series is worth the extra $$$.
We are in a fortunate position to comment about these vehicles. Purchasing the the 2014 Toyota Prado 150 GXL in 2017 and completing driving scenarios both on and off-road in both a stock and modified form.
Following this we purchased our 2014 Toyota Landcruiser 200 Sahara in early 2019 and have also completed similar driving scenarios in both stock and modified forms.
In this video we discuss the major differences and advantages/disadvantages of both models.
00:00 - Intro
02:10 - Dimensions and weights
04:00 - On road drivability
07:01 - Off road drivability
10:20 - Fuel Consumption
13:34 - Interiors
15:37 - Engines and Power
17:09 - Towing
19:05 - Pricing
19:49 - Our thoughts
We hope you enjoy today’s video and hope those who are considering purchasing or upgrading their vehicles are able to get some value and points to consider from it.
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I was going to get the Prado but then decided the 200 series was what I needed, went to order it, then realised I’m broke...
Haha, yeah, they're not cheap that's for sure. There may be a mark up on the prices for Toyota's however the re-sale value is unbelievable.
lol
I got a stock Prado 120 (2009) 70k on the clock for 4000. No issues. Happy with it. Beating it up in the bush, so no need to be new. Had it thoroughly checked up before I went out.
@@QnA22 Nice mate, I'm sure you'll have plenty of great adventure with your Prado!
@@QnA22 $4000 for a 2009 Prado! What's the catch? that's about $20k below market value dude
Man, first time to watch your video, and i really like the way you divided the chapters... very clear and derailed information.
I leave in Mozambique, Africa, my town is Beira, a town with not so good roads + a lot of not sealed roads, and here the Prados, the Land cruisers VX models, Hilux and Ford Rangers really shines...
Thanks mate, I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
These vehicles are really great and sounds like they would suit road's like yours.
Toyota's are definitely the most popular manufacture of 4WD's here in Aus and they are proven for their reliability.
Thanks for sharing, Nathan.
Having gone from 2 Prados to now being on our second LC200, I agree completely with all your observations and findings. Another great informative and factual creation, well done!!
Thanks mate, glad you agree. Everyone is different, but it comes down to how and what you use the vehicle for.
Glad your happy with your 200 too.
Very good comparison between the two vehicles, I have been looking at buying a Prado for some time and your comments give me further confidence for buying, cheers!
Awesome, thanks for the feedback mate. All the best with your purchase, they are genuinely awesome vehicles.
Another awesome video. Love your concise, informed and direct analysis. So easy to watch and understand. About to buy our first van and suitable towing vehicle. Using your excellent videos to educate myself on the myriad of options and factors to consider. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these productions.
Thanks mate, comments like these are super encouraging. I'm glad you guys are getting some value from the channel. Feel free to hit us up on Facebook if you have any specific questions.
Cheers, Nathan.
It is not one of the best channels. It is The best!!! Full of useful insights/info, no bs. Thanks mate ☺️😃
Cheers mate, really appreciate that, very encouraging to hear and I'm glad you are enjoying the content. I'll keep it up as long as I can maintain it.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great review guys, this gave a real balance from touring to family in the city recommendations which was honest and experience based, so valuable for us looking at these two great vehicles.
I would really like to know how this comparison would have been if it was a 2021 Prado Kakadu with the new engine (and KDSS) as that is our front runner right now.
Cheers mate, I have replied to your PM. Let me know if you have any further questions.
Cheers, Nathan.
Thank you for this video. I'm currently deciding between these 2 and your information was exactly what I've been looking for.
Awesome, glad to hear mate. All the best 👍
Excellent work . It's awesome how you guys compare the two
Thanks mate 👍 I hope it can help some people decide between the 2 models.
Cheers, Nathan.
Fantastic video. Great comparison. I’ve been looking at both.
Cheers mate, appreciate it. Hopefully it's made the decision somewhat easier.
Cheers, Nathan.
This video helped me decide to go with the 200. It's been a great experience. Thank you for convincing me.
Thanks mate, I appreciate the feedback and glad to hear that you found it helpful.
Cheers, Nathan.
A very good comparison folks. Thumbs Up 👍
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback.
Mate love you’re videos with your detailed well informed information .
Thanks mate, appreciate it!
Thanks for the comparison. I've been looking for a video like this for some time.
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Best comparison I’ve seen
You really know you’re stuff Nathan
Thanks mate, appreciate that 👍
Hey Nathan, thanks for the info! I was kinda waiting for this video.. unfortunately we don't have the budget for the 200 but after watching this I'm comfortable enough to buy the Prado.. Also our choice in caravan will be similar so... Thanks again! Cheers mate 🤙
Hey mate, I'm sure you won't be disappointed with the Prado, they are awesome vehicles that will still get you everywhere you need to go.
Hopefully we'll see you around these parts some day in the new setup
Nice comparison, great video Nath! Well done!
We have a 200 GX 2015 and she'll be with us for several more years but the plan would be to switch to a Prado as next car/4wd.
We use the 200 mainly for 4wding in the VHC, she is not a fancy car but definitely does her job in the bush properly.
I believe the price for a Prado GXL is very similar to a 200 GX so for us was a trade of "bells and whistles
" against "size and powerhouse".
Cheers
I hear you there mate. These vehicles are definitely designed and produced for different target audiences. Not everyone needs the power of the 200, and as shown in a couple of video's previously, the Prado is one very capable vehicle.
Good luck with your future vehicle, hopefully we'll see you out there in the cruiser one day.
Cheers.
200 GX is my dream 4x4, vinyl floor and barn Door
Great comparison, nice polished presentation, and to the point, no waffle or other mumbo jumbo. I really enjoyed this, thanks guys. And for anyone who has now decided to get a 200 series, you'd better be quick. Probably no time left to get an order in for a new one, as Toyota will no longer be building them from March 2021, as rumour has it. Over to the upcoming 300 series. Second-hand 200s that have been looked after are now in high demand and selling for very high prices.
Thanks mate, appreciate that 👍
I’ve heard some rumours that there isn’t any unallocated stock left to enter Australia, meaning that of you don’t have a VIN now, it might be too late.
Will be interesting to see how the 300 series is accepted.
Hey mate, just found your channel and loving your videos. I have the first of the 2014 facelift (actually 11/2013) Prado and have had since brand new. Great car so far... fingers crossed 🤞 and same colour as your old one 😂. Anyway until recent no additions other than a tow ball and controller. Have decided it is a keeper for a while and am getting some TJM kit, T13 bullbar/lift kit/Airtec snorkel fitted shortly. Can’t wait for the adventures. Would love a 200 however can’t quite justify yet. Keep it up vids, great info mate.
Hey mate, welcome to the channel. Glad you are enjoying the videos, its great to hear!
Nice choice, they are a great vehicle and we loved ours and was very surprised about just how capable they really are.
I'm sure you will be happy with the new modifications, it's always fun (albeit expensive) modifying the vehicle to your preference!
Cheers mate, hopefully you'll continue to enjoy future videos.
Thanks, Nathan.
Thumbs up!!! A really good video mate well done
Cheers man, appreciate that!
Had my Prado 150 for 8 years and love it. Great work on the comparison video. Safe travels.
Good to hear, they are an awesome vehicle. I think a little underrated here in Australia and definitely more capable than most people think.
Thanks, Nathan.
Fantastic comparison between the two vehicles 👍
Thanks, hopefully it will help a few people out
🎬100 series vs 200 series compared, Which to buy?: th-cam.com/video/GVy_L7peHK8/w-d-xo.html
Excellent clip very good information, well done.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
I also purchased the last 200 series VX. Not that I needed convincing, but your vid helped consolidate my thoughts. Thanks for sharing Nath
Good choice! I don't think many people regret buying the 200, they are awesome vehicles and there is a reason they are one of the best selling 4WD's on the Australian market.
Thanks again Jim.
Would like to see this done with a 2021 prado kakadu go against the 200. Had two friends go from a new 200 vx to the 2021 Kakadu and said they would never look back. Only thing they miss is the v8 sound but with the new prado engine upgrade have no problems towing or with power.
Thank you for this comparison. You can never come across many like this
Thanks mate, glad you got some value from it.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great video. Thanks my man 👌🏾
Cheers man, we gotta get the Prado back out to the beach sometime soon!
Awesome vid. Thanks mate!
Cheers mate, appreciate that.
Great video folks. I would have like to known your thoughts if you’d done a GVM upgrade on the Prado as well. I’d assume body roll would have been significantly less like the Cruiser with its GVM upgrade. Also I wonder what the difference would be between tow capacity (not that much I suspect) however you can’t beat the awesome power of the cruisers V8. Either way, Toyota all the way. Happy camping and keep up the good work.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
So no, we hadn't done a GVM upgrade on the Prado. Fitting stiffer springs (essentially the only difference) would have definitely reduced some body roll. Saying this, the KDSS system works very differently and would likely still provide an advantage.
So in terms of towing, these pre-facelift model Prado's can only tow 2.5t where the 200 series is rated to 3.5t. So there is a little difference there, but also take note that the new Prado models can now tow 3.0t, so that difference is lessened.
Thanks mate, Nathan.
really good review thank you
Cheers mate, appreciate it.
Great comparison. Lots of good insight into what you should consider when considering which vehicle is right for your application. I just went through the whole process in the last year or so and just pulled the trigger a month ago on a new rig.
Awesome, cheers mate.
Out of interest, which model did you choose to go with?
@@XploringOzI've owned a self-built Transit van for 3 years and slept in it for 15 months. I needed a more capable and nimble rig to go from Mexico south for a longer trip. I thought long and hard for a few years on a Troopy or an 80/81 or a 100 and a few others. In the end, it was just harder to buy the "right" vehicle here in Canada.
So when I saw an Alu-Cab Canopy Camper I figured it ticked enough boxes for me to go ahead with it paired up to a 2013 Tacoma Access cab with a 4.0L petrol automatic. So in a single week in November, I bought both. Now I'm happy and broke. (the accc gets installed in January) Let the build begin.
@@XploringOz Also considered the Lexus GX 470 and the Toyota Forerunner - which are the closest thing to your Prado model. But I wanted a little bit more interior room. That is where a pop-up (alu-cab style) sleeping area became essential in I wanted. (the van likely spoiled me a bit-;)
@@TerryManitoba Thats awesome mate. I wish we had the Toyota Tacoma here is Australia, I really like them and think they would sell well here.
I like the idea of having a self sufficient camper without towing, like what you are setting up. I might just have to wait until the kids a little older for something like this though.
Thanks for sharing your setup mate and all the best with the build.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Isn't the Hilux even better than a Tacoma? (and it has a diesel)
Thanks for the video, the new Prado have a 3 Ton towing capacity. It would be nice to see a review with the 2021 models as these cars are 7 years old now.
Cheers mate, yes I hear you there. These are the only vehicle I have access to at this stage, but something I might look into for a future video.
Cheers, Nathan.
I have ordered the last 200 series VX and watching this vid has convinced me i did the right purchased good video
Nice mate, I’m sure you will be satisfied with your purchase, they are awesome vehicles 👍
Hopefully we’ll see you out there sometime.
I’ve done the same it’s due Jan 19th
Awesome Review mate.
I would love to see a review done on the 2021 Kakadu, vs 200.
Iv had 2 friends go from a new 200 vx
to the new Kakadu because the engine up grand, kdss, select terrain crawl mode and all the new electric features. would be interested to see what you think.
Cheers again 👍🏽
Thanks mate.
I would love the opportunity to review one. Maybe one day, I’ll be able to.
I do think that the top end Prado’s are extremely capable and reliable vehicles.
Cheers, Nathan.
We'll done mate
You put out the statistics like a finely tuned Robot
Cheers mate, appreciate the feedback.
Hi Nathan, great comparison like with choice there are comprises price storage intended use etc ,the LC 200 is a very good tow vehicle get the job done with minimal effort this is why there are thousands of them out there towing .I was at Toyota recently and the salesman was telling me the 200 are selling, hard to get one in the spec you want. I think weight wise you would have been very close to the wind towing with the Prado. With the 300 Series due for release September 2021 I wouldn’t be rushing out to buy one ...remember the 2007 LC issues customers doing Toyota R.D. I am happy with the LC 200. Cheers Ian.
Thanks Ian. Both these vehicles are designed for a specific and targeted market, and they do very well considering. From what I hear, there is little to no unallocated stock left for the 200 series in the Australian market, could be too late to buy a new one now...
It will be very interesting to see how the 300 series is accepted and reviewed in Australia, its been a long time coming.
Great video, No tailgate on the 300 & that’s a massive down point for many.
Definitely. The tailgate is such a useful part of the rear of the vehicle. It will be interesting to see how the 300 series will be accepted for those touring.
Cheers.
Nice vid thanks for posting
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Nathan.
I have to go for the Prado as the road and parking space is too narrow in shopping center in Sydney. Good video, thanks mate!
Cheers mate. Both awesome vehicles and it’s great they have these minor difference to cater for everyone’s needs 👍
@@XploringOz You are right mate! Cheers!
Honest and factual. Great article.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Máte, ths fór this comparison. Good video.
Thanks mate, appreciate that.
very precise & informative
Excellent video thank you. I think the Prado is a great car, but owning a V8 is a childhood dream so that's worth it for me.
I know the feeling! Thanks for watching.
Cheers, Nathan.
Really good video 👍
Quick question: Is there enough power in that Prado to weigh down with a draw fit-out, rooftop tent, awning and all the other goodies and still rip into places like Fraser Island?
Cheers.
Hey mate, I do believe that the Prado will get pretty much anywhere the LC200 will, but it definitely won't have that extra grunt behind it. For example when towing, the LC200 will cruiser up steep hills, whereby the Prado will slow down even when the accelerator is buried. The Prado will still get there in the end, however it will be maxed out while doing so and probably be slowing down. The Prado is still a very capable vehicle 👍
really helpfull information, thanks so much. We are keen on the 200 and wanted your advice on when to do the GVM upgrade...pre-registration?
Thanks, appreciate the feedback.
If you are buying a brand new car and have the opportunity to modify things like the GVM pre-rego, this is derisible. The ability to modify the vehicle pre-rego allows for more options and parts to be fitted then if you were to install/modify after registration.
It's probably best to speak with a fitter for the latest information on kits and legislation as it seems to change reasonable often.
@@XploringOz Thanks, that's the general advice I have been given.
Definitely pre-rego. Post-rego the gvm upgrade is only compliant in the state of registration. That is, say you get a moderate upgrade done in NSW and then drive to QLD, then the original GVM is what is legal in QLD. You'd probably never run into problems, but when it comes to selling it, then the GVM is only current in say, NSW.
Also no Lux car tax.
Thanks and now I know the difference!
I went from a 2004 Prado that I had for 330k km to a new 200 and couldn’t be happier. I did miss the Prado for a little bit
Both have their own strengths, but I couldn't go back to a Prado now. The 200 suits my needs perfectly.
Good vid mate just wondering what make of roof rack is on the 200 and what you think 🤔
Hey mate, so I'm using a Pioneer Roof Rack Platform system. Great piece of kit, I've actually done a full video on this and my thoughts. Hope it can help out and answer some of your questions.
Cheers, Nathan.
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I have changed from owning a Prado (Petrol) for 12 years (250K) to a LC VX 200 (July 2020) and I'm pleased with the bigger engine. Did you get a diesel filter and oil catch can. Great video and i had no problems with the Prado.
They are both great vehicles. Good to hear you have had a positive experience, the V6 petrol engine is a reliable motor.
I do have a secondary filter and catch can fitted to my diesel. I have a couple of videos on these 👍
I'll definitely have a look. Thanks for the info.
very good video, all your are missing in your stable is a Patrol Y62, consumption seems similar to the LC 200
💯 %. I love the new Series 5 patrol. I’d potentially go that way if I had my time again. Could afford the super charge and modify the patrol for the same cost of the LC200.
I’ve heard the fuel consumption is very similar...
Great comparison
Cheers mate
Interesting mate. I've had my 2017 Sahara for nearly 4 years. The first 18 months were stock, then modified pretty much the same as yours (and the dozens you see come out of ARB). As a matter of comparison with fuel usage, the stock (pre-modified) one with a mix of urban/highway/offroad/onroad/towing (2T boat) etc. came in at a "lifetime" economy of 11.2L/100K. Post-modification, my "lifetime" economy is 13.3L/100K with the same mix of driving conditions (maybe slightly more serious 4WDriving).
Sounds like you get some awesome fuel economy there. Do you have any engine tuning or other performance modifications that might assist with the good economy?
I hear so many differing accounts of fuel consumption with these vehicles...
@@XploringOz No engine mods. I dont believe in trying to out do what a billion dollar R&D team achieves...
@@mathewcampbell8479 Fair enough, sounds like you're winning with that fuel consumption then.
I would love a 200 series bit man they are expensive so I am now comparing tge Prado to a Pajero and Fortuner and the MUX.
Thanks for the video.
For sure, I hear you there. This particular market doesn’t help either. I would be buying one until the demand settles a little...
Cheers mate and good luck with your vehicle
@@XploringOz Cheers mate!
The prado I find having owned both vehicles is more than capable as you mentioned yet u need the vx or sahara model with the kipps suspension..makes a big difference and it has more features. My pref is the prado if your commuting in the city most the time..a great vehicle offraod also. I've tow.the same van..have to agree..lacking up hills and the head wind..I have though noticed a big difference running the car whilst towing in sports..not in general drive gear. Less hunting on.the gears and less strain on the motor in low revs in 5th I found. I've installed a sensor on the gearbox for the added comfort of not cooking it.
One big difference on the lag for towing and take-off..buy an idrive unit! Couldn't believe the difference in the car...chalk.and cheese and cheap...less than $200. I use it towing and when I need to take off at the lights quicker if need be.
Works off the accelerator throttle body.. not a chipset. Great unit.
I too loved the 200 series ...too big for the wife and hassle of parking the unit in the city etc..let alone the deadshits parking next to you and boxing you in or denting the doors.
If your towing a big van or boat..no worries. Hands down and the power is worth it...if your not.. my pref the prado. $20k in the pocket and their rated higher towing these days and specd up a bit more.
Again..if toyota rated the prado higher and gave it a little more poke I'm sure the sales of its bigger brother would plummet..clever marketing ploy..
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with your experiences. It all comes down to how and what you use your vehicle for and it sounds like you've found the perfect vehicle for your needs.
I agree with the KDSS, it is definitely worth it as an optional extra on the GXL 200's and worth the upgrade to VX for the Prado's.
Toyota have definitely won with their marketing and design of both these vehicles.
Awesome comparison!! Really informative :) we have just bought a 2014 Prado so you have put our mind at easy a bit haha just a question how many kms has your Prado done? And did you have any issues with the pistons from doing all the towing?
Awesome mate, they are great vehicles.... I didn't want to say this, but unfortunately our 150 series (still in the family) has had fatal engine problems and has required a new engine since this episode was filmed with that infamous piston issue.
@@XploringOz oh no!!!! That sucks! How many kms if you don’t mind me asking ?
@@markt9156 Ohh, you got me thinking now... I believe it was about 170000km ish... I could be wrong, but it was around that mark... not more than 200k
@@XploringOz oh that does seem to be when the go! It sucks that they have the piston failure issues but guess it’s part of having the 4wd they all have their issues but give us the chance to see amazing places!!
@@markt9156 For sure, its unfortunate and annoying, but it's all part of the automotive world!
Will be interesting if you can do this similar comparison with 2021 prado Gxl vs 200 series GXL
For sure, if I were able to get my hands on them I could definitely do this... maybe something for a future video.
Best comparison ever...
Thanks mate, appreciate that!
We have also owned both, bought a new 2010 vx d4d Prado, had it for 170k and was faultless. Only complaint was it is under powered.
We bought a new 2019 VX 200.
Simply fantastic in every way. We have upgraded the head unit to have android auto and carplay.
Tows like a dream.
It may be the best car I have ever had.
Nice! I hear you with your thoughts on the Prado's power. I guess the Prado is designed and manufactured for a specific a targeted market, with power and torque not being a priority.
I reckon this 200 is also the best vehicle I have owned to date, there is a reason they are one of the best selling 4WD's in Australia.
@@XploringOz we always said Prado with a 160-180kw 550-580nm V6td, 6spd auto with low range and 3.5t towing would be the fantastic.
@@cvytnioy56dvfuj4g7 I agree, that combination would work well. I guess this would take the market away from the 200 series Landcruiser, which Toyota wouldn't want.
Having 99 LC100, front and rear bumps, winch, batteries, snorch and 32" and OME HD suspension kit after AHC delete, I had my boubts. - mods fixes cost me more than the car - it was suppose to be fun, but practical car - I originally wanted 80's hilux. That tailgate tho *Chef's kiss* delicious! I was eyeing 90's prado, but this vid helped to be more happy with my choice.
Nice mate, as long as your happy with what you have! There are always pro's and con's for different vehicles, but just have to pick one that is going to best suit you and your purposes.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz heh yeah. It has therapeutic properties to drive that machine.
South Africa Australia & America is excited for the new Toyota Land Cruisers coming 2024 .
They look great 👍
That's interesting about the newer Prado's losing all their oomph on the hills. I've got a 2000 95 Series 1KZ-TE Prado which I've been modifying to buggery trying to overcome that problem and make highway driving/maneuverability more safer and tolerable. I've had a some good success giving the engine more fuel and boost with a Unichip Q4 and a Stage 1 high-flow turbo. But it's a balancing act with the EGTs for sure. You almost want to go bigger intercooler at this point as well as the stock one isn't doing much anymore. So yeah, I think these little 4 cylinders are under powered for the weight of the cars but also tuned very safely from factory, resulting in this gutlessness on hills. But the potential for improved performance is there.
Both are excellent cars!
Sure are, very clever marketing and design by Toyota 👍
Currently driving a modified 2003 GU auto wagon with a turbo TD42,
Looking forward to the new V6 TD Sahara around the middle of next year. Recently looked at a new Prado, which FINALLY has Android Auto. Nice wagon, but avoiding buyer's remorse is more important to me than the $20-30K extra it'll cost to get a Sahara.
And I hope they don't put a Mud Collection Device (low hanging alternator) on them...
I’m sure looking forward to the new engine by Toyota. Will be a shame to see the V8 go, however change promotes innovation and competition.
Toyota can’t build the Prado with everything, as you say, it will detract from the 200’s sales.
Haha, hopefully they learn from the after sale alternator demand.
i have a 2013 prado VX with KDSS. i will e towing a camper under 2 t. if i get a caravan i would definatly get a 200. Great comparison thanks
Thanks mate. The 200 series are awesome vehicles. Toyota have developed each model for a targeted and specific market, but I do believe for towing the 200 series is perfectly equiped.
The VX Prado handles like a sports car. I got caught out one night by a sudden sharp bend and discovered performance beyond what I would consider possible in a 4WD. Range with the long range fuel tanks 200 L non towing will allow Adelaide to Melbourne return without refilling. They would be no good on the Autobahn mind you but at least you get to keep your licence.
For sure, they are awesome vehicle! Toyota has done a great job to be able to deliver two very popular, capable and surprisingly different vehicles in the Aus SUV market.
Thanks for the video. Very useful. Would you choose the 2012 GX LC200 150k milage or 2014 VX Prado 60k milage if the price is not much different between the two ? Im looking to buy one but not sure do I really need the 200. Thanks.
Thanks mate, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. So it will really come down to how you plan on using the vehicle. If you don't think you will need the extra engine power and torque from the 200 series, I would lean towards the Prado. The Prado is a great vehicle and served me and my family very well, even towing 2.5t. The VX luxuries are very nice as well.
@@XploringOz thanks for your quick reply and advise. Will probably pick the VX up as I think its the better all rounder compare to the 200. Your advise made up my mind. Nice to have big power, but it might not get use that often.
Spent then last couple hrs watching you videos and really like them. Big respect to you for making these videos also your knowledge about these cars. Cheers.
@@nguyyenhuy2705 No problems mate, I'm glad these videos are able to help you in some way.
All the best for your choice, I'm sure you will love either vehicle, they are both awesome vehicles.
Appreciate the support on the channel.
Cheers, Nathan.
Here in the US we have the Lexus GX 460 (LC Prado) and the Land Cruiser. Hands down the Land Cruiser is a better vehicle, but much like she said have fun driving it around town and especially have fun parking it. I own a GX 460 and it is all the vehicle that I need. Plus, who wants to have 12-13 mpg city. My 15-16 mpg city is bad enough.
You had to put the cool guy sunnies on when you switched to the 200 didn’t you. This is why people don’t like us. 🤣 great info!
Haha, *not done of purpose *
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it 👍
This video is made me to do a final decision. I think I would go for Prado because I am a small guy[ Asian] and I used to spends the most of my time in the city.
Awesome, thanks for letting me know mate. Glad to hear that this video could help you out.
All the best with your new vehicle 👍
Cheers, Nathan.
200 for me, awesome presentation Toyota rocks
Cheers mate! Always my choice of vehicle.
The best of both worlds, except for the fuel consumption, might be the Lexus GX460. Essentially a 150 with a 4.6 petrol V8 (1UR-FE) with 301 hp in its stock form. I was thinking on upgrading to a 200 but I'll stick with the 460
For sure, great compromise there!
I'm loving the 200 for now and the sound with the new exhaust is awesome!
in my opinion the Prado was under done with the power train it receives. A vehicle of those weights and dimensions you would think would have a more significant engine power output. However from a marketing point of view how would you sell the 200 against a more powerful Prado.
Yeah, I see where your coming from. I believe Toyota have specifically designed the Prado for a particular market. The price for an upgraded engine and driveline would pull it out of this market.
The 200 serves a very specific and focussed purpose. For those who hit the tracks and tour often, they are worth the investment 👍
I have prado 120 series with 4.0 V6. That thing accelerate fast (100 km in 8.5 seconds) and climbs big dune easily. Also it gets around 7 km per liter when driven gently.
Ok Mahmad here in Australia we only get the under powered four cylinder. A six cylinder like you have makes sense in a vehicle that size.
Hi mate- also have a 2014 prado I'm slowly building up from stock. It is also an auto and i've only ever used manuals previously. Was wondering if you added a torque converter lockup kit or a trans cooler on the prado for towing?
Hey mate, so I never fitted anything to the trans. I found that the torque convertor was quite tight and didn't really need much intervention, however we haven't been actively watching the temps either.
So far no problems, but I think an addition cooler would log astray if putting it under hard conditions or towing lots 👍
@@XploringOz legend mate! Thanks heaps!
@@austhollamby1141 No problems, all the best with your setup 👍
Hey mate, just curious about rear door clearance with a caravan on the back? Is the prado door too long to open?
Hey mate, yes this can be an issue with some caravans. I've had no issues with my previous Jayco Journey, however this had an extended drawbar. So it's probably more of a case by case basis.
Wot about comparing the price of second-hand or resale value. Cheers Graham
For sure, another valid point to consider when purchasing these vehicles.
Given the numerous factors that would need to be taken in to account, it's very hard to compare these two models directly.
Here, in Australia at least, the re-sale on these vehicles are very similar and both model hold their values very well.
I love both but i think the new 150kw vx(South Africa) is the best option, i have not yet driven it through. The 200 is very heavy and it feels old, the new model with the 3.3v6 will most probably trump the prado and be much lighter that the current model
I hear where you are coming from. I guess they are both designed for different purposes and requirements. It will be very interesting to see the new specifications of the LC300 and how it is accepted in the 4WD'ing community.
Cheers, Nathan.
here in the states the biggest difference is the engine and transmission. we get a 5.3 liter V8 with 380hp matted to an 8 speed auto that make the lc200 a smooth power beast that the Prado ( lexus GX460 here in the states ) just cant compete with.
For sure, here in Australia we also have very different engine combinations between these two vehicles. I guess Toyota need to provide a reasonable benefit for the 200 series to continue sales.
It will be interesting to see if the new Prado (GX460) will come out with a turbo V6 diesel in the next generation....
Interesting timing.
We needed to get a new car, due to my Camry not fitting us all now in due to an extra person joining us lol and my refusal to drive a people mover. I couldn't afford the Saraha, but a few weeks ago found a killer priced 2014 Prado Kakadu so we got that. There are some things I like better. For example, the Prado does it's 3rd row much better. I do not like the 200 series fold to the side design and do like the barn door as we need it so the eldest can actually get into the car as the entry via the 2nd row is not possible.
I can say the Prado with KDSS does fix a lot of that body roll. The only thing I hate is the Toyota head unit, they really need to fix that.
In terms of power, Toyota is notorious for detuning their cars to fit into "brackets" and to not compete with other cars in their range. For example my Camry V6 (1mz) was detuned so as not to compete with the non-turbo Supra, they couldn't have the Camry beating their sports car lol. A simple change to the sister engines intake cams (2mz) and a replacement of the merge at the bottom of the engine and you're pretty much on par with the non-turbo Supra. Get a good custom tune (not those stupid chips) and you can boost the power to a more reasonable level. The new power figures that Toyota have on their newer Prado's are proof that they are safe.
Thanks for you thoughts mate, sounds like you got a perfect vehicle for you and your family. To be honest, I didn't even think about the entry to the rear 3rd row seats via the rear door, as that's never been a consideration for me, but I would agree the Prado would mate this easier.
Good to hear about the KDSS though, I thought this might be the case, I'm sure it would be a distinguishable difference.
I agree with the power limitations. Each of these vehicles are designed for a targeted and specific market and the differences need to exist to maintain this market and provide interest for both models.
I've actually got my 200 series booked in for some engine tuning in January, so it will be interesting to see the difference achieved.
@@XploringOz not surprised most people wouldn't think about it, but when you move from 3 kids to 4 (final one lol) these things become issues. It's why the 200 series had issues, like the way the rear seats fold up. Too much room is wasted.
But the good thing is Toyota realised this, and you have the Landcruiser, and the Baby Cruiser as my kids are now calling it lol
Hopefully when you get the 200 done you do a video, considering the Prado can get roughly 30% power and torque and thats safe and reliable, even if the 200 is just close to that, would make it a weapon.
@@matthewfarrell317 do you install baby seats on the second row? How many of them and on which side of the second row? I have 4 kids as well, two pre teens and two babies ha ha. Thanks for replying.
@@hans6304 sorry for the late reply. We have a back-facing one, a forward-facing one, and a full back booster. I should mention I have a 6-month-old, 3, 6 and 9 (yes all evenly spaced). I put the baby on the driver's side, as I or my partner can control putting the baby in, and left the passenger side for the other two as they can get in safely from the nature strip safely without worrying about oncoming cars.
It is a bit of a squeeze and we are about to swap the forward-facing for a full backed booster and will need to get new narrow versions, but other than that. It all fits.
Again sorry for the late reply.
@@matthewfarrell317 no worries brother and thank you for replying back. Hope you enjoy the 200 and have fun with the whole family.
Thanks for the detailed analysis.. I am wondering if the 200 series has really a higher ground clearance than the prado... The 150 series looks much higher (at least to me) .. What do you think about it ?
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
So yes, I see how the Prado looks higher, however the cruiser has higher ground clearance at the lowest point. The body of the Prado sits a little higher, things like the bullbar look higher combined with the fact that it has had its side steps removed, give the visual impression of lift.
Ive got 3 teenageers and wondering what the dimension comaparison of the back seat is? Is it a whole 10cm bigger in the 200 series?
Yeah, there's not a huge difference in the rear seat room, although the 200 series is noticeably larger, not sure if it would measure 10cm....
I dont see many 200s with big ks on the clock like the prados often hit 400ks plus...do the 200 diesel v8s not last ??
Yeah, I don't think I can accurately comment on this as a general assumption. There isn't anything inherently wrong with the 200 series, but I do believe there are plenty going around with high km's. I believe the Prado's are probably more common vehicles and often spoken about a little more publicly which could give the illusion of more reaching higher km's?
Cheers, Nathan.
What about remapping the Prado's engine? Can't you get like 215 hp from the stock 190 hp?
For sure, this is possible. The 200 series is still going to produce more power, especially if you tune that engine as well. Like I mentioned, the Prado did everything we wanted without drama, the 200 just pulls harder... in my opinion.
@@XploringOz it should V8 twin turbo over a 4 cylinder
Thanks for that video! Apart from the purchase price, have you seen a big difference in ownership cost? Such as maintenance or repairs? As an example, I changed the injectors on the Prado and I would imagine the price to be double on the 200.
Not a huge difference at this stage. Everything (insurance, registration and general servicing) is a little more expensive each time, however not a massive difference. You are correct with major work, or replacement parts though, things like injectors are naturally going to be a more expensive due to the number of cylinders, however maintenence like this is often once in an owners lifetime.
@@XploringOz thanks for the answer. I guess only something to take into account if buying an older one second hand.
@@TristanNicolas correct, I guess it just depends on how you plan on using the vehicle and whether the sight extra cost will be worth it
Both are nice, 200 series is a bit wide though, doesn't fit as well on tight tracks.
Sure, it is just over 10cm wider, however personally, this has never been an issue for me. I've not received any damage or been stopped from continuing due to the vehicles width.
As they are so popular, the tracks are normally suited to a vehicle like this.
@@XploringOz If it hasn't hindered you then win, it's a good machine. I have some trouble getting the Prado in some spots I attend.
I know it depends but roughly how much does it cost to do all these modifications on prado from stock model here in perth?
So this would depend heavily on exactly what equipment you got and what brands you choose to fit. This set up was about $17,500 in addition to the price of the vehicle.
@@XploringOz wow that’s not cheap.
@@binaystha6 No its not. Definitely want to make sure you start with the right platform in the first place with the intention to keep the vehicle.
@@XploringOz yeah have been looking to buy a prado gxl worth around $40k and slowly do the modifications. But they say it’s not great time to buy a used car now as the price is high due to covid. Hopefully I will find a good deal in near future 🙂
@@binaystha6 For sure, Toyota's do hold their value and the recent health pandemic has done some weird things to the 2nd car valuation market. All the best for your new vehicle in the future.
I like both
The real question is not do you like it better its is it worth the 20-25k more? Either way that's a subjective question based on your budget and how much worth you ascribe to the benefits. But nonetheless that is the real question. Good video though a nice comparison. I just wish we got the diesels here in the US. Diesels have been marketed as evil polluters that will make the glaciers melt and polar bears drown and nobody wants to be guilty of that!
For sure. For me personally, it's all about value and whether or not I would get the value from the extra cost with the features that come with it.
Me personally, using the vehicle frequently, I get that extra value.
Too bad about the limit access to diesel's over there, they really are awesome engines.
You haven't considered the GX model 200. I bought a new 2020 GX 200 for 76K, spent 35K on Superior 4inch GVM upgrade, bullbar, winch, rear bar, diff locker and heaps more. Still less than a new VX and without all the electronic nonsense that will fail on you after enough corrugations.
For sure. I didn't consider this as they are not overly common in Australia. Further, the Prado is also manufactured in a GX spec as well and the price differences are still relatively similar.
Although I see where you're coming from in regards to the electronics, I do have a slightly different opinion on that matter.
Although a car like my '14 Sahara is full of electronics, none of these 'additional' electronics is going to stop my vehicle from finishing a track over a GX model. Parking sensors, electronic seats, infotainment systems, fancy dash screens can all fail without effecting the drivability of this vehicle.
The engine, driveline and running gear are identical and full of electronic components that are equally susceptible to failure.
I'm not disputing that the GX models have many advantages and are simpler, however I'm yet to hear of someone becoming stranded due to a broken centre console fridge or quad zone climate control.
Keep in mind, this logic changes slightly with the newer models with lane guidance and radar cruiser as these systems will effect drivability, however recognising these systems are also installed in all models starting from GXL these days.
@@XploringOz Yes all good points. You’re right and I think I was a little unfair in my comments. I’m just biased in my opinion of the more simple the better.
@@petergrieve9356 Haha, all good mate. Everyone is different, has different opinions, requirements etc. If they didn't, we would all be driving around in the exact same vehicle. The only thing that matters is that you are happy and the vehicle serves the purpose you use it for, don't worry about what everyone else thinks/says.
Hopefully we'll see you out on the tracks some day.
Cheers, Nathan.
No. As a mechanic who has worked on both of them significantly, the amount of issues the 200 faces vs the prado is actually quite significant. A proper setup 150, and tuned, has always been more friendly on the hip pocket, and more reliable. I'm personally not a Toyota person, but I would happily own the 150.
Fair enough, it's good to get these opinions as well.
I can only talk from my experience in relation to owning and using these 2 vehicles and personally the ownership, mechanical and otherwise expenses have been fairly similar.
I have yet to have any major issue with either vehicle at this point.
Thanks for sharing.
@@XploringOz no worries mate.
Common problems we find on the VD are failed fuel coolers leaking coolant into the fuel, the egr system blocking up the air passage ways in the engine, 70 series vd's have seized in starter motor issues, failed injectors. Have seen seized VD's a lot to from excess heat build up related to the egr system, cracked pistons, and cracked blocks, and the notorious airbox that is known to cause dusting is respomsible for many premature engine failures. I refuse to promote any v8 diesel Toyota product. After talking with other Toyota techs, Toyota's choice to dump the v8 diesel motor just shows how they're struggling to fix the issues. We are seeing dusting happen even with the new 2.8 line up too, and toyota know about it, however they're refusing to acknowledge it as a problem, which is why there is a 250000+ petition class action law suit in progress. Toyota have really dropped the ball with the cruiser since the last of the 1hdfte powered vehicles, which is very disappointing, and very hard to get through to people, as they belive toyota's "unbbreakable" bullshit. The company is far from what it was, and i don't see them every making it back. People just need to be more informed, or, in some cases, not be so ignorant to some industry insight and take it on board, which is hard to do when so many have a thick skull.
@@pheonixfps9248 Hey mate, interesting to hear of your experience as a mechanic. I'm about to soon splash out on my first newish 4x4. I've had my 1999 LandCruiser 100 series diesel (non turbo) for 11yrs and had no issues at all, 300,000kms. Going to keep it as my fishing, bush bashing, dog carting old beast.
I'm leaning towards the Nissan Patrol Y62 V8 petrol series 5, over both the Prado and 200 series.
What do you reckon?
@@wozandnic review the towing results for starters. Don't let people con you on the hype because they're a petrol v8 they're thirsty. They're not. Buy all accounts, I will also be buying a 62 down the track. Have seen and heard some minor gremlins with the transmission ecu, the cats in the past, and timing chain woes in the s1-s3 RARELY, but nothing negative in the newest model. Most of the 62s rarely have issues, but these are the ones we know from time to time rear their ugly heads. If you do consider taking it off road in a hard-core fashion later on, ditch the HBMC suspension. The 100 series 1hz is a solid motor and even magical in the 1hdfte guise. I would love to buy a 1hdfte and stick it in my 4x4.
@@pheonixfps9248 Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It refreshing to speak with someone who can provide more detail than "Toyota is crap".
I'm all for talking about the good and bad points on any vehicle, modification or product I buy, however I can only speak about the experience I've had, as I don't have the amount of experience as a mechanic like yourself.
Rest assured, if engine problems come to light, I'll be reviewing and speaking about them honestly. I have nothing to hide on this channel, nor am I endorsed or paid to promote any vehicle manufacturer in any way.
I completely understand your concerns in regards to Toyota's problems and their lack of action to admit, or rectify issues raised.
In your opinion, what manufacture and more specifically model or vehicle would you recommend for a family wanting a large SUV with a capable 4WD system and tow rating?
21:20 looked like she was going to launch to the moon christ
Haha, definitely gave the driver a little wake up. Lucky the camera was rolling at the time...
The turning circle is much better on the Prado, your comparing OEM spec. The advantage of the bigger wheels on the 200 also ruins the turning circle and reduces power and further reduces economy.
Bare in mind smaller/lighter is often better offroad. The Rocky and Jimny are considered among the best.
Yes, the modifications definitely effect things like turning circles, however keep in mind the Prado is also running larger than OEM tyres as well. I agree with the weight and size, I guess it all comes down to personal requirements and how many people you are planning on carrying in the vehicle.
Brand new prices- prado gxl $65k, Sahara 200 $120k where’s $20k from?
Hmm, like mentioned in the video, in Western Australia (considering all averages) a new Prado (RRP) will set you back $74k, whilst a GXL 200 series (keeping the considerations constant) is about $94k.
If your are in a position to purchase a brand new 2021 GXL Prado for $65k in Western Australia, then you're in a good position.
Forgot to mention the Prado 1kd engine cracking pistons at 150k kms .... Cheers
yes if you don't check your injectors on time.. mine has 220k kms after rebuild(360k overall) and no issue
Although there are a few D4D 3.0L's out there with this, I wouldn't say it a underlying issue with the model of the vehicle. I think the total number of these engines in the market need to be taken into consideration as well. Although there may be a few issues there are 10's on thousands of these engines sold every month in Australia, so there are bound to be some issues.
I wouldn't base the vehicle of an issue with the minority. All personal opinion though...
Have you heard they are going to stop manufacturing 200 series?
Yes, I believe the official end of production in early 2021, however information I've heard suggests that there is no more unallocated stock of 200 series left for Australian sale.
Could be a little too late to purchase a new 200 in Aus now. Be interesting to see how the new 300 series is accepted.
@@XploringOz yeah I would be interested to see what 300 brings. I have 2011 LC Prado GXL. Love the vehicle. But when it’s time to change I would be interested to see other options. Your video has been very practical.
@@YoHo18 It sure will be, I'm looking forward to seeing what Toyota have to offer and bring to the market with their new 300 series. Thanks mate.
I have the 150. Easy choice because Toyota doesn't sell the 200 here in Germany anymore.
Crazy how Toyota don’t release the 200 over there. Is it something they used to sell there?
The 150 is a great vehicle 👍
@@XploringOz @XploringOz Yes, they sold the 200 as the "Land Cruiser V8" until 2015 or so but discontinued it because the 1VD-engine doesn't meet current emission standards. The second-hand car market is fairly limited and expensive because most of the vehicles are either of the top trim level or armored. There are a couple of dealers who import the 200 and 70 with the different gasoline engines from the UAE, though.
I love my 150! It's a true all-rounder, great for traveling and as a light-duty utility vehicle. Sadly we only get the flat tailgate option so no auxiliary tank, which would be useful on longer trips.
@@elguusko5481 Unfortunately this is reality with petrol and diesel vehicles. As emission standards tighten, something has to give. The future is all electric. I guess we can enjoy what we have now.
I'm glad to hear that the 150 is doing well though!
Toyota is stopping sales of 200 series in Usa next year
Prado is the winner for us 😉
Hmm, I was wondering. Haha, your one is particularly awesome!
Прадос конечно круче по проходимости а 2-х сотка по комфорту. Но по сути это два ведра, но не убиваемых конечно. Коплю на Лексус, а то эта Спарта запарила уже.
The 4Runner is the Prado in the USA
Yeah from what I hear there are slight differences, however very similar vehicles.
Cheers, Nathan.
include a 4runner in the next comparison
Unfortunately we don't the 4Runner in the Australia Toyota Lineup. I have no experience or access to one...
Cheers, Nathan.
The 4Runner is the Prado in the USA. The Fj Gx and 4Runner are all almost identical with slight differences all three are Prados
yes
I tend to agree, however there are targeted and specific markets for both vehicles 👍