The pricing is intentional. They price it in the range of the more expensive macbook options to make it look like it competes there and then regularly put it on sale giving good discounts. Makes it look like a better deal.
Also, I think Samsung is trying hard to make the laptop work as this samsung ecosystem thing. But problem is, no matter how hard they try, it's still a windows machine in the end of the day, and you can probably make one yourself with just downloading samsung apps from windows store and activating phone link on windows if you really want to immerse yourself into this ecosystem without buying this laptop.
@@josuad6890 yeah thats a good thing. Apples ecosystem is a major factor in price increases and anti consumer practices in the entire industry over the past decade roughly. Samsung is a main culprit of copying the bad shit from apple. Competition is the only thing keeping companies in check. Ecosystems on the level of Apples give them a semi monopoly status.
I've had mine for 2 weeks. Samsung could immediately fix two issues out of the box: 1. Have Dolby Atmos defaulted to "on" - I was disappointed with the audio until I figured out it wasn't on. I've only seen one review that points this factoid out. If reviewers are missing it, the general public sure as heck will. 2. Trackpad driver - definitely needs an update even after the recent update. Would also love to have an option to limit right click to a smaller section of the track pad. Otherwise, really loving the machine.
I will say, I got mine through the discount program, which stacked on the "sale" they were running. Otherwise, the process would have been too much vs. the competition
0:08 “knowing Samsung they fcked it up somehow” why’s this so true? I love Samsung but every now and then they make something and just make a U turn and mess it up somehow. I was SO excited for the Galaxy S24 to come out and when it did… it was exynos again…
@@모댕-k7u I don’t want a gigantic 6’8 brick that’s impossible to hold with one hand, I want the base galaxy. When I found out s24 is exynos I just straight up went for last years 23
Note 0:36 the sticker says "PC Development Sample (Not for office work)" and "Not to be taken out if the sticker is missing/damaged." It's a pre-production sample.
@@andyH_England Not to be that guy, but you do know that media companies like LTT have a giant stockpile of stuff they've been sent and that it takes actual time to get to each thing, right? If there's no immediate urgency in making the video to hit a specific embargo, there's gonna be a queue before they get to reviewing the thing - and even then, it's *expected* that you give media ample time to actually play with the thing before they post their review.
Might be even more extortionate than Apple, to be honest. At least the new M-series MacBooks can last a week with minimal charging needed (I know cuz I have an M2 Pro thing and by golly it's a trooper). Though the fact that I have to pay more for RAM than I would a custom PC is the height of BS.
@@jkul872ARM Windows will never take off unless Microsoft figures out how to run x86 programs on ARM at acceptable speeds. Apple killed it with Rosetta 2, people couldn’t tell between x86 and native apps. That’s why their transition was so smooth.
It's funny how Apple doesn't actually make any of these components and still manages to implement them better. I'm sure there are no patents on speaker implementation; these companies just need to copy what Apple does. There should be no such massive difference in such a basic thing as a speaker.
*6 P cores, 8 E cores, 2 HE cores This greatly frustrates me. It is quite misleading to say 16 cores because that implies all 16 cores are the same, and they arent. I mean you mention the TGP for the GPU, why not the CPU?
Yeah and knowing Intel naming schemes, from this gen on it will be impossible to deduct if the processor is any good at all even from the core/thread count. Same amount of cores/threads and one processor will have only two performance cores and a boatload of efficiency cores with HT while the other will have 6 or more performance cores with some efficiency cores.
Core/thread count has never been a reliable way to differentiate processors. A 2-core processor made with modern technology will outperform an 80-core processor from 2006 in every single use case (yes, it existed, look up the Teraflops Research Chip or Polaris). That's why you should be looking at the generation number first, and then the tier it was placed at within that generation for a decent ballpark estimate of quality, and if you need real numbers go to actual benchmark records. In the past few generations, intel has been getting incremental improvements in peak performance but at the cost of skyrockting energy costs and heat production; this new set went the other way by keeping similar (or slightly worse) peak performance, but using a fraction of the electricity to do so by using different kinds of architecture to solve different problems; the 'efficiency cores' don't exist to do more things at the same time, they exist to do the same things for cheaper. Also their integrated graphics are nowhere near as shitty as they used to be, but if you have a GPU you don't care about that.
@@sindrisuncatcher653 Intel could (and have) release different ratios of P cores to E cores and it all could be called "Alder Lake". It could be 1:1, 1:2 or even all E cores. No one in the phone space for instance says their phone is 8 or 9 cores, because its a bit misleading, they always list the configuration. It is similar to AMD bulldozer in a way. It's misleading marketing. It is like saying a 4GHz P4 is faster than a 2ghz Athlon because "bigger number betterer". It doesn't harm anyone to clarify that only 6 of the 16 are P cores imo, so why not do it?
I have the Galaxy Book 2 13” from 2022 and it’s still running like a champ. I got it for a really good price at Best Buy and have been happy ever since
@neggas- Book 2 Pro is actually a good deal though for the price to performance. It comes with 16 gigs of RAM (which is unfortunately soldered, but far better than the 8 gigs soldered on Mac)
Pro tip with those Intel/Nvidia/AMD stickers. If there is adhesive residue still on the surface of the device, you can use the bit of adhesive that was properly stuck on the sticker to remove it super easy. Just continue dabbing the sticker on the residue, and the adhesive will pull right off after a few dabs.
The performance is exceptional for an ultrabook but I feel that it is a jack of all trades and doesn't do anything really well, it's definitely not worth that *UTTERLY RIDICULOUS PRICE.*
@@TalesOfWar In many ways that is just as bad if not worse, especially the price to performance and repairability aspects, they're both just awful and anti-consumer.
@@Voltaic_Fire M-series Macbooks are not even close to awful. Price to performance is competitive in some tasks and less so in others, but, despite Apple's anti-consumer practices, they still offer something the rest of the market couldn't deliver for the past 3 years: a laptop with great unplugged performance that still has a great battery life. This laptop however doesn't offer ANYTHING a cheaper laptop cannot offer: the same OS, the same specs, even the same screen.
@@LAndrewsChannel M-series Macbooks will go straight in the trash once SSDs on them die. They are ewaste waiting to happen. Made to be discarded, not last. Unless you have soldering skills, and even then better hope the SSD controller - which is, I think, in the SoC - doesn't die. If RAM dies, that will be the end as well. People should really look at the long-term consequences of buying this sort of shit.
@@elu9780Nobody cares. People are going to buy the laptop and use it for 4-5 years. Nobody wants to think about whether in 8 years they can fix random parts when they know they’re better off just buying a new one anyway. If you care about this stuff, buy that Framework bullshit
It's so absurb, and for me, unexpected. The fact we are using Apple's inclusion of an SC card reader is so damn backwards, these windows OEM have learnt NOTHING and keep giving us worse bang for our buck
I just got Book Ultra 3 in Brazil, it comes with 32GB RAM and 1TB SDD as default. I don't know about other countries, but here you can find "good" pricing after some time. There are some discounts if you are a student and if you have a partner's credit card.
I totally agree with your sentiment about the Samsung Galaxy Ultra Book 4's price. It's baffling that it's priced so high when there are more capable machines available at lower costs.
I own one of these and I love it to bits, I use it as a programming system whenever I don't have access to my tower at home. My only gripe is that I don't know how to access any settings related to SSC (Samsung Scalable Codec) for 24bit audio for my Buds2 Pro. However, the system does seem to support many other features for my buds like seamless switching between the PC and my phone, making me lead to believe it is actually capable of using the codec.
That's not a fair comparison though, try running games on a Mac. This is absolutely Samsung's answer to the MacBook, with the versatility of windows for better or worse. If you're only going to use it for browsing or basic school work you'd be stupid to buy this. That's not the target audience though.
Alex is such a great host. Thanks for all these videos - and I particularly LOVE his car reviews. What I especially like about Alex is how confident he is, and doesn’t seem to pay attention to the troll comments he got so much when he started!! People are freaking mean
I started the video thinking the price would be around $1599 then by the time you got round to the price I was thinking it was $1999 but $2400??? DANG!!!! How did they get to that number??
They probably priced it comparatively to the MacBook and will offer sales, pretty much 24/7, to justify this being a better buy than the similarly priced mac.
Tbh if you are a not a gamer, using a laptop for only basic and some creative works, you can just buy/use cheap 2020 M1 Macbook Air and it still can compete with current overpriced windows laptop at least for the next 2-3 years
That really is a high price huh. It really doesn't make sense. Edit: Seems like it's a very good screen, very good battery, everything else is just fine. Also they integrate well with Samsung phones and tablets. They are $2000 right now on their site but still.
Doesn't make any sense to go for these, and I say this as a Samsung fan. If you really want a portable laptop that performs really well get the G14 or the Legion Slim 5 14 (if you game) or get the Mac (which is cheaper now). I understand the draw of the ecosystem but the premium it asks for is not worth it IMO. Get a full fledged gaming laptop which should either destroy this in performance or get a 14 inch gaming laptop.
this laptop makes macbooks seem cheap lmaooo. and macbooks dont even have the issues this has. macbooks have beautiful touchpads, beautiful speakers, beautiful keyboards, and god tier battry life.
@2:30 ‘the Knox chip is pretty cool, a dedicated chip for security etc’. Yet when apple did that a few years back, everyone at LTT was complaining how it would hamper repairs and getting data off dead drives impossible. It’s literally the same thing but complete opposite reactions
Critique you've got there ! The Galaxy Book 4 Ultra sure seems like a top notch choice, with its processor, impressive screen and sleek design. However after watching the video I noticed there are some details to think about before making a purchase. It was quite enlightening to discover more about how it performs in real life situations and the potential cooling challenges it might have. Appreciate your candid and thorough review. It truly aids in making a informed decision. Lets hope Samsung takes note of these aspects for their models !
Watts... Because that means what(t) exactly? :D. Also, tuned by AKG, which is owned by Samsung. Thing seems to sound all right though. It's literally a 1000 dollars too expensive though :D.
@@sasig5215 though you wrote five there’s only two whole thoughs in my post though. You definitely helped the internet a lot with that response though! Peace out though. And for doctor who fans; San, though.
Considering what apple is giving me you I say this is a win. You get a tight ecosystem with Samsung related products, a dedicated GPU and a solid laptop with a great display. Don't apple price their products over 3k and don't even offer a dedicated GPU?
You can’t even make the argument anymore that, “oh, well it’s a premium product and that’s why it’s expensive.” The build quality with the ASUS Zephyrus G14 and G16 are pretty premium these days, with similar, identical or even better internal components in the ASUS machines.
I'm assuming the fact they don't make a whole lot of them and aren't willing to commit to a massive marketing budget (yet). Once you account for the manufacturing and rnd, the margins aren't crazy.
I don't understand why we can't get a laptop that matches MacBooks in 1) build 2) speaker quality and 3) trackpad. You can get one of the three, MAYBE two, but never all three.
@@JokerTheDank Unless you forgot to list a gpu this is not even close to a comparable specced laptop plus the samsung is a 16" (even if the Samsung is overpriced)
I have the galaxy book 2. Not joking when I was looking to buy it two summers ago for college short circuit came out with the unboxing and review of the galaxy book 2 and it couldn't have been more perfect timing Also they increased the price a LOT top spec 13" galaxy book 2 pro 360 was like $1500 US. so good thing I got the older one.
conclusion - get a g14 or g16 - same display panel, better performance, better keyboard and trackpad, better speakers, 9+hr of batterlife insted of 11+h on samsung, very slightly better webcam on samsung and save $500
I swear that's the same price I paid for my 16-core i9/4080 equipped MSI laptop. Sure, it's chunkier, but also DRASTICALLY more powerful and still gets decent enough battery life that I'm not lugging the power brick with me everywhere (plus, it runs off USB-C power too). They're out to lunch with that price.
@@lucifermorningstar8387 Very true. It's just jarring how much extra that business audience costs. I would lug around a gaming laptop all day long if it meant I got twice the power for the same price.
Guaranteed, This laptop is priced for sale. Don't be surprised when you see it at Best Buy for $400 off plus a $200 gift card. Even at that price it's too expensive, but still...
@@DanKaschel I want them to come to market only for the hackintosh community to tinker with them, if they made it work with amd im hopefull they will make it work with a sd
Go get last gens Galaxy Book 3 Pro instead. Also, within samsung's settings on the laptop you are able to enable Dolby Atmos. (This helps audio quality dramatically just like on Samsung Phones) They also have background and face effects that you are able to use on any application with the webcam. They also have Multi Control where you can drag files straight from your phone to the laptop. Second screen for samsung tablets, quick share, and SmartThings built in. Still doesnt justify the price for the Galaxy Book Ultra 4, but if you dont care about dedicated graphics last gens 16" Galaxy Book Pro 3 with integrated graphics gets good discounts. 2 upgradable M.2 spots are clutch as well.
What people never mention with Samsung and Apple is they charge a premium, BUT give you decent trade in value so the next time you upgrade to their flagship it's a great deal. Asus and other laptop manufacturers just dont do that. They also offer the best financing of all the major providers, so leasing it ends up costing about as much as adding a new phone line with 0% apr up to 24 months. Ultimately you buy this for the ecosystem, second screen with Samsungs tablets and S Pen with Wacom EMR coupled with the power of the Ultra is special. Theres more to the story here for Samsung worth mentioning.
I think this is an interesting little device. The screen is smth really great and it being a samsung device it gets the samsung benifits (Samsung Notes, seemless change from phone to laptop and tablet and stuff. Yes, you can get some features on your normal device, but samsung notes doesn't work anymore on non samsung laptops since like 4 months and it really is bummer to me since I am taking my notes for uni on my Samsung Tab S7 FE). I saw someone showing off how u can use the galaxy book to control the laptop, your samsung phone and your samsung tablet at the same time which imo if you are in the samsung eco system might be worth it. It's like with apple putting their premium to get a good integration into their eco system on all levels, but the price increase for that is not as horrible as apple does it and in the end u still are running windows and can load whatever you want into it. Still would love it to be cheaper but knowing samsung well enough by now I can already tell it will be on sale regularly on their own store. What I would have loved to see were test on fan noise and battery life, those really didn't get any attention here.
It's not really a review it's a first impression. They've stated that a lot in the past to describe what they want to show at this channel. Yes they actually test more aspects nowadays as they have the Labs team at hands, but they don't spend as much time and effort into it as they would for an actual review. It's more about the ovious stuff and how it "feels" to initially use it, without going much into depth and comparisons.
I hate this new rounded corner trend. GIVE ME THE FULL SCREEN REAL ESTATE. Android 14 literally artificially sticks in rounded corners onto my Pixel C tablet. Seriously, it takes more GPU power to make a corner round instead of just a corner.
Come on, across the Linus Empire, they can't create their OWN 4K/1080p/High quality Audio movie theme tester instead of using that crab bit over and over and over and over... You have the resources! If you can spend *THOUSANDS* on an April Fool's prank, you can definitely create your own testing theme! Just a suggestion! Thank you for the video!
This is a feel-good video. After watching this video, I feel good that I purchased an HP Spectre x360 16 inch with the exact same screen, CPU, and GPU, but with more RAM (32GB), a better keyboard, a haptic trackpad, and tablet mode -- all on sale for much less.
IDK why they ONLY use micro cards for the reader. Use full sized ones, which are not as common sure, but it takes almost no real space and allows for a ton more flexibility.
Perhaps part of the reason for the increased price is that it is made in Korea and not China. At least their phones are. But for that price one could buy a Framework which is almost fully upgradable and repairable.
The price comes from the connected experience with the Samsung Ecosystem. Try using the laptop with a Samsung phone, Samsung Tablet and other Samsung devices. It is the same as with Apple devices.
I'll never understand a glossy touch-screen OLED. Like, the very LAST thing I'd ever want to do is freaking touch it just so I have to wipe it down again
holy hell I think thats the best webcam ive seen on a laptop. the premium price is because they are going after the MacBook's form factor and build quality. but its super over priced. their phones have gone to their head lol
32gb is the minimal I would consider for a laptop these days especially at this price point. It's not as if memory is expensive currently either. Currently running a macbook pro from 2020 with 16GB and memory is the biggest problem and it's not even a m-series chip. When you start specing up 32GB and even 64GB Framework with it's bring your own ram is insane value
@@DipSet85 I tend to hold onto laptops for 5-7 years before looking to upgrade. Currently using a 2019 MacBook pro with 16GB ram and have endless memory pressure warnings, hanging when switching between things and crashes is frustrating. At one time I'll have 2-3 projects open in IDE, Discord, Browser with multiple tabs (the never ending memory leach that is the modern internet), Spotify, onenote, some ToDo list, some spreadsheet all attached to a 49" ultrawide (which the MacBook can't even run at max resolution) very easily destroy 16GB of memory often closer to 32GB with compression etc. While yes shoving endless data to the SSD means it "manages" it you do notice the slow down as it has to spend a considerable amount of time memory doing memory management rather than the task I want it to, ultimately it will result in unnecessary wear on the SSD, extra heat generated, extra noise and extra power use I upgrades my previous laptop, a ThinkPad Edge E320 to 8GB memory myself back around 10+ years ago. Memory has been very cheap for a very long time. I fail to see why 10 years later 8GB is still appearing on laptops in the £500-700 range. No laptop above £300 should have 8GB ram. 16GB as a minimum is fair enough but as soon as you hit £700 I see no reason it shouldn't be 32GB, knocking on £1000 yea I won't be touching it with less than 32GB. Memory is cheap and the main thing holding me back, either let me upgrade it myself or I'm making damn sure I'm specing the machine I need and won't buy until a reasonable price. For context I plan to drop close to 2K on a framework. When you factor 32-64GB memory and 2TB of storage going the DIY offering, even for the high cost still works out competitive am0than anything else on the market for the specs. I'd rather pay frameworks "upgrade" tax than try to save £400 which has half the specs (vivobook core ultra series 2, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD)
@@DipSet85 1. I tend to hold onto my laptops for 5-7 years. I "saved" by getting less ram and thinking memory management is good enough.... it's not 2. Ever bloated software, OS and Websites eating ram unnecessarily 3. Upgrade to a 49" ultrawide, Graphics shares memory 4. My current usage already consumes 16GB leading to memory pressure warnings and causing extra heat, noise, power consumption and SSD wear from the heavy amounts of memory management
Samsung has seamless compatibility between their phone tablets and laptops. Although not enough to justify the price, but I would've liked Alex to have a look at it
The extra price I am assuming is the branding and ecosystem. Due to windows I would go for this over apple as atleast they won't trouble customer by making then buy every apple device just to make em compatible with the laptop
i like how everyone is saying ''if this were a mac you would be slamming your head across the wall'' and stuff bro we are not saying this is a good laptop for its price lmao
I enjoy every day with my Galaxy Book 4 Ultra, equipped with 32GB of RAM, which I purchased for around $1900 here in Korea. However, I'm confident that the 16GB RAM model, priced at $2400, would not convince anyone to pay for it.
![Is Samsung Better than Apple!? [I TESTED Both Ecosystems]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fmThG8pnnmA/mqdefault.jpg)
The pricing is intentional. They price it in the range of the more expensive macbook options to make it look like it competes there and then regularly put it on sale giving good discounts. Makes it look like a better deal.
The 4070 model with 32/1tb is already $2500 on discount.
It ruins the first impressions of the product
@@river. idk. It works wonders for apple
Also, I think Samsung is trying hard to make the laptop work as this samsung ecosystem thing. But problem is, no matter how hard they try, it's still a windows machine in the end of the day, and you can probably make one yourself with just downloading samsung apps from windows store and activating phone link on windows if you really want to immerse yourself into this ecosystem without buying this laptop.
@@josuad6890 yeah thats a good thing. Apples ecosystem is a major factor in price increases and anti consumer practices in the entire industry over the past decade roughly. Samsung is a main culprit of copying the bad shit from apple. Competition is the only thing keeping companies in check. Ecosystems on the level of Apples give them a semi monopoly status.
Alex laptop review bingo:
1. "Absolutely fantastic"
2. "Exceptional"
3. "Very good"
4. "Love to see it"
Now I want watch more of his reviews just to hear more words and phrases to add 😅
5. "But I do wish"
6. "Pretty decent"
Have a great old day!
5. "Oooh fancy"
"It murders/slaughters/sh*ts on the face of it" 🤣
my jaw broke the floor when Alex voiced the price
what the actual hell samsung
Yep that's a big fat no sale for me also
its ok when apple does it though
Yup, I had guessed 1400 but not that high. My 10 year old dell xps had 16gb ram Qhd+ touch display 512 ssd and didn't cost that much!
@@jackking9700 because apple customers are brainwashed
It has a 4050rtx wtf are you thinking? @@Squeeonline
I've had mine for 2 weeks.
Samsung could immediately fix two issues out of the box:
1. Have Dolby Atmos defaulted to "on" - I was disappointed with the audio until I figured out it wasn't on. I've only seen one review that points this factoid out. If reviewers are missing it, the general public sure as heck will.
2. Trackpad driver - definitely needs an update even after the recent update. Would also love to have an option to limit right click to a smaller section of the track pad.
Otherwise, really loving the machine.
I will say, I got mine through the discount program, which stacked on the "sale" they were running. Otherwise, the process would have been too much vs. the competition
0:08 “knowing Samsung they fcked it up somehow” why’s this so true?
I love Samsung but every now and then they make something and just make a U turn and mess it up somehow. I was SO excited for the Galaxy S24 to come out and when it did… it was exynos again…
its only exynos in some regions
I mean u can get ultra
@@모댕-k7u I don’t want a gigantic 6’8 brick that’s impossible to hold with one hand, I want the base galaxy. When I found out s24 is exynos I just straight up went for last years 23
@@Rusty01 it’s only snapdragon in the US. Everywhere else is exynos. Samsung seems to hate the global market for some reason
@@Denariioexynos is only slightly worse than snapdragon this year and better than last years chip
Note 0:36 the sticker says "PC Development Sample (Not for office work)" and "Not to be taken out if the sticker is missing/damaged." It's a pre-production sample.
Huh. That's weird. They usually say that if that was the case no?
It has been out for months, so I doubt it will be pre-production.
@@andyH_England Not to be that guy, but you do know that media companies like LTT have a giant stockpile of stuff they've been sent and that it takes actual time to get to each thing, right? If there's no immediate urgency in making the video to hit a specific embargo, there's gonna be a queue before they get to reviewing the thing - and even then, it's *expected* that you give media ample time to actually play with the thing before they post their review.
Just a slight correction: this isn’t an international keyboard layout, it Canadian multilingual.
Only 16GB of ram? For this price? For this Specs? Hell no...
If this were a Mac with the exact same specs (different CPU of course) they'd be slamming it saying it isn't enough. Gets a complete pass though here.
@TalesOfWar if it was a Mac it would have 8 gigs
@@TalesOfWar How is it getting a pass when he literally calls it bad value and mentions other alternatives that are cheaper?
@@hellzofwar It's less than they would do to a macbook.
But hey.. "that's different"
@@SwordTomatoyou can get a MacBook Pro 14” for that price. It has 18gb of ram.
Samsung doing their Apple impressions!!!
Might be even more extortionate than Apple, to be honest. At least the new M-series MacBooks can last a week with minimal charging needed (I know cuz I have an M2 Pro thing and by golly it's a trooper). Though the fact that I have to pay more for RAM than I would a custom PC is the height of BS.
@@FlyingCIRCU175 getting only 16gb is a low blow, hopefully windows with arm is better
Yes and it comes with Windows... This pc will be dead in 2 years. It's a really bad move from Samsung i think.
@@jkul872ARM Windows will never take off unless Microsoft figures out how to run x86 programs on ARM at acceptable speeds. Apple killed it with Rosetta 2, people couldn’t tell between x86 and native apps. That’s why their transition was so smooth.
@@FlyingCIRCU175yeah that's impossible with x86 chips with today's battery tech that's why I can't wait for windows on arm
During the Crab Rave test, I thought, “not bad🤔” then you did the side by side with the MBP- I literally laughed out loud.
It's funny how Apple doesn't actually make any of these components and still manages to implement them better. I'm sure there are no patents on speaker implementation; these companies just need to copy what Apple does. There should be no such massive difference in such a basic thing as a speaker.
Only 1,5 kidney? I'll take two!!!
I'm more concerned with how you have 3 kidneys in your possession
@@ShhTime 4.... that's why I can give up 3
@@ShhTime Doesn't have to his. IYKYK
India people get the recycled version !
Bro why'd you have 3 kidneys?@@
*6 P cores, 8 E cores, 2 HE cores
This greatly frustrates me. It is quite misleading to say 16 cores because that implies all 16 cores are the same, and they arent. I mean you mention the TGP for the GPU, why not the CPU?
Yeah and knowing Intel naming schemes, from this gen on it will be impossible to deduct if the processor is any good at all even from the core/thread count. Same amount of cores/threads and one processor will have only two performance cores and a boatload of efficiency cores with HT while the other will have 6 or more performance cores with some efficiency cores.
Why even bother? It sucks anyway, no matter the config.
Core/thread count has never been a reliable way to differentiate processors. A 2-core processor made with modern technology will outperform an 80-core processor from 2006 in every single use case (yes, it existed, look up the Teraflops Research Chip or Polaris). That's why you should be looking at the generation number first, and then the tier it was placed at within that generation for a decent ballpark estimate of quality, and if you need real numbers go to actual benchmark records.
In the past few generations, intel has been getting incremental improvements in peak performance but at the cost of skyrockting energy costs and heat production; this new set went the other way by keeping similar (or slightly worse) peak performance, but using a fraction of the electricity to do so by using different kinds of architecture to solve different problems; the 'efficiency cores' don't exist to do more things at the same time, they exist to do the same things for cheaper. Also their integrated graphics are nowhere near as shitty as they used to be, but if you have a GPU you don't care about that.
@@sindrisuncatcher653 Intel could (and have) release different ratios of P cores to E cores and it all could be called "Alder Lake". It could be 1:1, 1:2 or even all E cores. No one in the phone space for instance says their phone is 8 or 9 cores, because its a bit misleading, they always list the configuration.
It is similar to AMD bulldozer in a way. It's misleading marketing. It is like saying a 4GHz P4 is faster than a 2ghz Athlon because "bigger number betterer". It doesn't harm anyone to clarify that only 6 of the 16 are P cores imo, so why not do it?
This needed to be stated in the video. They didn't even say which gen it was.
I have the Galaxy Book 2 13” from 2022 and it’s still running like a champ. I got it for a really good price at Best Buy and have been happy ever since
Galaxybook 1 user, still love my laptop and see no reason to update it anytime soon as my portable device
@neggas- Book 2 Pro is actually a good deal though for the price to performance. It comes with 16 gigs of RAM (which is unfortunately soldered, but far better than the 8 gigs soldered on Mac)
Yes! It's smooth if you play solitaire 😆😆😆
@@mihirojha4475 16gb of RAM on windows is worse than 8GB of RAM on mac 😹😹😹
(unless you're doing professional work)
only thing ultra about this is the price
Pro tip with those Intel/Nvidia/AMD stickers. If there is adhesive residue still on the surface of the device, you can use the bit of adhesive that was properly stuck on the sticker to remove it super easy. Just continue dabbing the sticker on the residue, and the adhesive will pull right off after a few dabs.
Bless you
At $2400, this is probably a laptop that needs to be always “on sale”
The performance is exceptional for an ultrabook but I feel that it is a jack of all trades and doesn't do anything really well, it's definitely not worth that *UTTERLY RIDICULOUS PRICE.*
May as well just get a Mac if you're paying that kind of money, unless you need Windows of course.
@@TalesOfWar In many ways that is just as bad if not worse, especially the price to performance and repairability aspects, they're both just awful and anti-consumer.
@@Voltaic_Fire M-series Macbooks are not even close to awful. Price to performance is competitive in some tasks and less so in others, but, despite Apple's anti-consumer practices, they still offer something the rest of the market couldn't deliver for the past 3 years: a laptop with great unplugged performance that still has a great battery life.
This laptop however doesn't offer ANYTHING a cheaper laptop cannot offer: the same OS, the same specs, even the same screen.
@@LAndrewsChannel M-series Macbooks will go straight in the trash once SSDs on them die. They are ewaste waiting to happen. Made to be discarded, not last. Unless you have soldering skills, and even then better hope the SSD controller - which is, I think, in the SoC - doesn't die. If RAM dies, that will be the end as well.
People should really look at the long-term consequences of buying this sort of shit.
@@elu9780Nobody cares. People are going to buy the laptop and use it for 4-5 years. Nobody wants to think about whether in 8 years they can fix random parts when they know they’re better off just buying a new one anyway. If you care about this stuff, buy that Framework bullshit
1:02 That's what I've allways felt with samsung mobiles at low to mid tier pricing, amazing screen and that's about it.
With Samsung track record, it is easy say:
they will (hidden) screw up anyhow.
they'll mess something up with an update anyways
This trend to micro SD readers on laptop is bizarre. I'd rather just have another USB-C port if they can't fit a full size SD reader.
Even Apple put full sized SD card slots on their laptops.
It's so absurb, and for me, unexpected. The fact we are using Apple's inclusion of an SC card reader is so damn backwards, these windows OEM have learnt NOTHING and keep giving us worse bang for our buck
Because apple truely caters to the creative media tech market
Its like they don't know which device needs this this feature.. Like Phones do .. but they cut it off
@@kadupseYeah I don’t think I’ve used an actual full size SD Card in like 5 years or so. It’s always just the micro SD Card with the adapter.
I just got Book Ultra 3 in Brazil, it comes with 32GB RAM and 1TB SDD as default. I don't know about other countries, but here you can find "good" pricing after some time. There are some discounts if you are a student and if you have a partner's credit card.
I totally agree with your sentiment about the Samsung Galaxy Ultra Book 4's price. It's baffling that it's priced so high when there are more capable machines available at lower costs.
He was so shocked that even forgot traditional weight prediction part
I own one of these and I love it to bits, I use it as a programming system whenever I don't have access to my tower at home.
My only gripe is that I don't know how to access any settings related to SSC (Samsung Scalable Codec) for 24bit audio for my Buds2 Pro. However, the system does seem to support many other features for my buds like seamless switching between the PC and my phone, making me lead to believe it is actually capable of using the codec.
Wow bizarre oversight on their part.
Yo, so in the Netherlands, it's 3000 euros, which is like 3223 dollars. A Macbook Air M3 base model is 1300 euros here, which is like 1400 dollars.
Yeah Samsung is ridiculous
Not like base M3 Air makes any sense tho
@@vulcanitu2578better than Samsung by miles
That's not a fair comparison though, try running games on a Mac. This is absolutely Samsung's answer to the MacBook, with the versatility of windows for better or worse. If you're only going to use it for browsing or basic school work you'd be stupid to buy this. That's not the target audience though.
@@VRGRockas it is also stupid to buy mac just for browsing and office stuff for 1400 dollars. you at least get high performance with samsung.
Alex is such a great host. Thanks for all these videos - and I particularly LOVE his car reviews. What I especially like about Alex is how confident he is, and doesn’t seem to pay attention to the troll comments he got so much when he started!! People are freaking mean
That looks like the best laptop webcam I’ve ever seen.
I started the video thinking the price would be around $1599 then by the time you got round to the price I was thinking it was $1999 but $2400??? DANG!!!! How did they get to that number??
They probably priced it comparatively to the MacBook and will offer sales, pretty much 24/7, to justify this being a better buy than the similarly priced mac.
@@Silver_Sage663But why? One runs Windows while the other runs Mac OS. Most people don’t switch back and forth. At least not often.
@@Boxhead42 Apple is Samsung's biggest competitor. Samsung probably just looked at their profit margin and Ctrl c Ctrl v it.
14 inch Core 7 is already £999 in the UK
Honestly felt like the Mac sounded much better.
That's because it does :)
The One Dollar mac feelings !
Tbh if you are a not a gamer, using a laptop for only basic and some creative works, you can just buy/use cheap 2020 M1 Macbook Air and it still can compete with current overpriced windows laptop at least for the next 2-3 years
11:25 sorry but, there are some mistakes there. You see, the 4070 version actually has 32 GB of RAM and an Intel Core Ultra 9....
1 view in 2 seconds? They really fell off
Silence npc
it takes a while for youtube to register the views
@@chris_p06 are you serious? Its a stupid trend
Probably forgot to notif bot admin ?
Just a joke in case some fanboy or someone that can't take a joke read this
This is the dumbest trend on TH-cam by a mile.
book 3's bluetooth sucks so much that i had to case mod my laptop for a desktop antenna just to get past the weak 2 meter range
I like the clear sound but they could definitely use a dedicated subwoofer.
That really is a high price huh. It really doesn't make sense.
Edit: Seems like it's a very good screen, very good battery, everything else is just fine. Also they integrate well with Samsung phones and tablets. They are $2000 right now on their site but still.
Doesn't make any sense to go for these, and I say this as a Samsung fan. If you really want a portable laptop that performs really well get the G14 or the Legion Slim 5 14 (if you game) or get the Mac (which is cheaper now). I understand the draw of the ecosystem but the premium it asks for is not worth it IMO. Get a full fledged gaming laptop which should either destroy this in performance or get a 14 inch gaming laptop.
this laptop makes macbooks seem cheap lmaooo. and macbooks dont even have the issues this has. macbooks have beautiful touchpads, beautiful speakers, beautiful keyboards, and god tier battry life.
@2:30 ‘the Knox chip is pretty cool, a dedicated chip for security etc’. Yet when apple did that a few years back, everyone at LTT was complaining how it would hamper repairs and getting data off dead drives impossible. It’s literally the same thing but complete opposite reactions
That's how the industry works. Complain about anything Apple does but applaud when others follow suit. (Other than the anti-consumer BS)
Knox doesn't mess with repairs so it's not a big deal.
When Alex started the sponsor segue, I thought he said "shart" 😅
I love such laptop reviews ❤
Critique you've got there ! The Galaxy Book 4 Ultra sure seems like a top notch choice, with its processor, impressive screen and sleek design. However after watching the video I noticed there are some details to think about before making a purchase. It was quite enlightening to discover more about how it performs in real life situations and the potential cooling challenges it might have. Appreciate your candid and thorough review. It truly aids in making a informed decision. Lets hope Samsung takes note of these aspects for their models !
Watts... Because that means what(t) exactly? :D.
Also, tuned by AKG, which is owned by Samsung.
Thing seems to sound all right though.
It's literally a 1000 dollars too expensive though :D.
Though though though though though
@@sasig5215 though you wrote five there’s only two whole thoughs in my post though. You definitely helped the internet a lot with that response though! Peace out though.
And for doctor who fans; San, though.
@@rollingtroll keep on yappin
@@sasig5215 That'd be you mate :D. Have a good one!
Samsung is crazy for this. 16gb ram? For that price? Wild.
I just love this guys enthusiasm in reviews
Considering what apple is giving me you I say this is a win. You get a tight ecosystem with Samsung related products, a dedicated GPU and a solid laptop with a great display. Don't apple price their products over 3k and don't even offer a dedicated GPU?
Some say Alex tested his girlfriend for chassis flex....
You can’t even make the argument anymore that, “oh, well it’s a premium product and that’s why it’s expensive.” The build quality with the ASUS Zephyrus G14 and G16 are pretty premium these days, with similar, identical or even better internal components in the ASUS machines.
Macbooks might just have the best speakers out there
Actually
I'm assuming the fact they don't make a whole lot of them and aren't willing to commit to a massive marketing budget (yet). Once you account for the manufacturing and rnd, the margins aren't crazy.
How are the fans running? How are the temperatures while idle/gaming?
I don't understand why we can't get a laptop that matches MacBooks in 1) build 2) speaker quality and 3) trackpad.
You can get one of the three, MAYBE two, but never all three.
Just bought a yoga 7 pro with a ryzen 7 at 650$ new from Lenovo. Explain Samsung's pricing.
There's like a million different SKUs for that laptop. Which one exactly, what year was it made, and in which configuration?
"Because we can." They're trying to turn into Apple.
@@slothnium 16gb RAM, Ryzen 7745hs, 512gb SSD, 14 inch 1600p display
@@JokerTheDank Unless you forgot to list a gpu this is not even close to a comparable specced laptop plus the samsung is a 16" (even if the Samsung is overpriced)
@@JokerTheDankThat laptop is ass bro 😭 I don’t think you could get even 10 layers working
I have the galaxy book 2. Not joking when I was looking to buy it two summers ago for college short circuit came out with the unboxing and review of the galaxy book 2 and it couldn't have been more perfect timing
Also they increased the price a LOT top spec 13" galaxy book 2 pro 360 was like $1500 US. so good thing I got the older one.
conclusion -
get a g14 or g16 -
same display panel,
better performance,
better keyboard and trackpad,
better speakers,
9+hr of batterlife insted of 11+h on samsung,
very slightly better webcam on samsung and
save $500
I think the samsung is thinner and lighter
But thats it. Only thing it has to speak of
I use to think portability wasn't a issue for me until I got 2021_G14.
Never looked back since.
or get a legion slim 14.5 OLED with 4060 for even less, mine cost under $1000.
@@marcgtsrif they are referring to the 2024 g16 and g14 then no the Samsung isn’t slimmer
LTT is the only place you can see the difference in the production quality in between two consecutive videos(in a good way)
I swear that's the same price I paid for my 16-core i9/4080 equipped MSI laptop. Sure, it's chunkier, but also DRASTICALLY more powerful and still gets decent enough battery life that I'm not lugging the power brick with me everywhere (plus, it runs off USB-C power too).
They're out to lunch with that price.
Just a matter for different user targets. Msi is going for gaming audience whereas this is aimed for creators/business work
@@lucifermorningstar8387 Very true. It's just jarring how much extra that business audience costs.
I would lug around a gaming laptop all day long if it meant I got twice the power for the same price.
my Aorus 17X with i9-13900HX , RTX 4080, QHD was cheaper at $1999...lol
@@lucifermorningstar8387 artists, get Mac. Business, get thinkpad
@@lucifermorningstar8387 wait so because it is a different user they pay 400 dollars more than standard pricing.
1:28 I'm impressed you don't know the millenar technique of using the sticker to peel off its own residue left on the surface
He's a noob if you dont know by now 😂
comments are flying so fast noone is going to notice i'm straight
Good for you.
Guaranteed, This laptop is priced for sale. Don't be surprised when you see it at Best Buy for $400 off plus a $200 gift card.
Even at that price it's too expensive, but still...
why not wait for ARM Snapdragon elite
i didn’t realize there were actually people waiting to buy a windows laptop with an ARM processor
@@DanKaschel I want them to come to market only for the hackintosh community to tinker with them, if they made it work with amd im hopefull they will make it work with a sd
@@DanKaschelARM is the future of casual computing.
@@DanKaschel 4h battery life is criminal on some of the notebooks so... yeah
@@yarost12""CASUAL''"
Go get last gens Galaxy Book 3 Pro instead. Also, within samsung's settings on the laptop you are able to enable Dolby Atmos. (This helps audio quality dramatically just like on Samsung Phones) They also have background and face effects that you are able to use on any application with the webcam. They also have Multi Control where you can drag files straight from your phone to the laptop. Second screen for samsung tablets, quick share, and SmartThings built in. Still doesnt justify the price for the Galaxy Book Ultra 4, but if you dont care about dedicated graphics last gens 16" Galaxy Book Pro 3 with integrated graphics gets good discounts. 2 upgradable M.2 spots are clutch as well.
1 view in 0.0000000000000001 seconds, damm they really fell off
What people never mention with Samsung and Apple is they charge a premium, BUT give you decent trade in value so the next time you upgrade to their flagship it's a great deal. Asus and other laptop manufacturers just dont do that. They also offer the best financing of all the major providers, so leasing it ends up costing about as much as adding a new phone line with 0% apr up to 24 months. Ultimately you buy this for the ecosystem, second screen with Samsungs tablets and S Pen with Wacom EMR coupled with the power of the Ultra is special. Theres more to the story here for Samsung worth mentioning.
Intel?
Bye
"...needs to be ****ing brilliant." .... Lmao, that was amazing! Love yah Alex.
For that price, a macbook seems like to have a better price to performace ratio.
I think this is an interesting little device. The screen is smth really great and it being a samsung device it gets the samsung benifits (Samsung Notes, seemless change from phone to laptop and tablet and stuff. Yes, you can get some features on your normal device, but samsung notes doesn't work anymore on non samsung laptops since like 4 months and it really is bummer to me since I am taking my notes for uni on my Samsung Tab S7 FE). I saw someone showing off how u can use the galaxy book to control the laptop, your samsung phone and your samsung tablet at the same time which imo if you are in the samsung eco system might be worth it. It's like with apple putting their premium to get a good integration into their eco system on all levels, but the price increase for that is not as horrible as apple does it and in the end u still are running windows and can load whatever you want into it. Still would love it to be cheaper but knowing samsung well enough by now I can already tell it will be on sale regularly on their own store. What I would have loved to see were test on fan noise and battery life, those really didn't get any attention here.
A review on shortcircuit? Didn't this start out as just a unboxing channel.
Doesn't look like a review
I have to agree with this comment. It’s starting to look more review-y.
They did said on a livestream they wanted to change the "unboxing" status
It's not really a review it's a first impression. They've stated that a lot in the past to describe what they want to show at this channel. Yes they actually test more aspects nowadays as they have the Labs team at hands, but they don't spend as much time and effort into it as they would for an actual review. It's more about the ovious stuff and how it "feels" to initially use it, without going much into depth and comparisons.
@@jaydeep-p It's a review.
Laptop: Has lowest available graphics card option.
LTT: GOnna be a "pretty darn good gaming laptop".
*I really hate Apple products but the M chips and the superior security against hacking is something no one compete with yet*
lol
That's why Knox exist 🙃
@@TechLoverforever313 it's not a matter of a software it's a matter of an OS nature.
Security of the M chips that apparently have a critical security flaw?
@@hellishsavitar7522 are you asking or is it a fact?
I hate this new rounded corner trend. GIVE ME THE FULL SCREEN REAL ESTATE. Android 14 literally artificially sticks in rounded corners onto my Pixel C tablet. Seriously, it takes more GPU power to make a corner round instead of just a corner.
Also at work, the Shit-Browser aka. Edge now has rounded edges... Its just crap.
Come on, across the Linus Empire, they can't create their OWN 4K/1080p/High quality Audio movie theme tester instead of using that crab bit over and over and over and over...
You have the resources! If you can spend *THOUSANDS* on an April Fool's prank, you can definitely create your own testing theme!
Just a suggestion!
Thank you for the video!
Samsung has really improved their laptops
Samsung pricing strategy is like going as high as possible, then give 20-40% discount immediately, also throw in a bunch of other free stuffs.
its $1599 with any samsung discount program. which usually reflects the real price it will be very soon, after early adopters fee's
This is a feel-good video. After watching this video, I feel good that I purchased an HP Spectre x360 16 inch with the exact same screen, CPU, and GPU, but with more RAM (32GB), a better keyboard, a haptic trackpad, and tablet mode -- all on sale for much less.
More fitting price for what ever that thing is trying to be is 250-500$
Thank you for the good review. I got what I wanted!
IDK why they ONLY use micro cards for the reader. Use full sized ones, which are not as common sure, but it takes almost no real space and allows for a ton more flexibility.
Try to use a dock, get failures, webpages with almost no driver support, no BIOS updates and whatever.
Good looking and that's all.
It's nice to know our boy is finally going through puberty, you can hear it every time he talks about the color space.
It should have 4K super amoled finally. I will not get one until it has true 4K display
Perhaps part of the reason for the increased price is that it is made in Korea and not China. At least their phones are. But for that price one could buy a Framework which is almost fully upgradable and repairable.
I really like this short review format 😊 well presented 🙂
That's a scamsung price tag.
The price comes from the connected experience with the Samsung Ecosystem. Try using the laptop with a Samsung phone, Samsung Tablet and other Samsung devices. It is the same as with Apple devices.
I'll never understand a glossy touch-screen OLED. Like, the very LAST thing I'd ever want to do is freaking touch it just so I have to wipe it down again
I use a Samsung laptop, and I thing that the key force depends on where you click in the actual key, the top part of the key is more lose
Is it just me, or does the audio sound like they're on a phone call?
Just you
holy hell I think thats the best webcam ive seen on a laptop. the premium price is because they are going after the MacBook's form factor and build quality. but its super over priced. their phones have gone to their head lol
That price seems insane, even for Samsung laptops. And that’s coming from someone who owns a Book3 Pro 360 (and loves it)
32gb is the minimal I would consider for a laptop these days especially at this price point. It's not as if memory is expensive currently either. Currently running a macbook pro from 2020 with 16GB and memory is the biggest problem and it's not even a m-series chip. When you start specing up 32GB and even 64GB Framework with it's bring your own ram is insane value
why do you need 32GB ram
@@DipSet85 I tend to hold onto laptops for 5-7 years before looking to upgrade. Currently using a 2019 MacBook pro with 16GB ram and have endless memory pressure warnings, hanging when switching between things and crashes is frustrating.
At one time I'll have 2-3 projects open in IDE, Discord, Browser with multiple tabs (the never ending memory leach that is the modern internet), Spotify, onenote, some ToDo list, some spreadsheet all attached to a 49" ultrawide (which the MacBook can't even run at max resolution) very easily destroy 16GB of memory often closer to 32GB with compression etc.
While yes shoving endless data to the SSD means it "manages" it you do notice the slow down as it has to spend a considerable amount of time memory doing memory management rather than the task I want it to, ultimately it will result in unnecessary wear on the SSD, extra heat generated, extra noise and extra power use
I upgrades my previous laptop, a ThinkPad Edge E320 to 8GB memory myself back around 10+ years ago. Memory has been very cheap for a very long time. I fail to see why 10 years later 8GB is still appearing on laptops in the £500-700 range. No laptop above £300 should have 8GB ram. 16GB as a minimum is fair enough but as soon as you hit £700 I see no reason it shouldn't be 32GB, knocking on £1000 yea I won't be touching it with less than 32GB. Memory is cheap and the main thing holding me back, either let me upgrade it myself or I'm making damn sure I'm specing the machine I need and won't buy until a reasonable price.
For context I plan to drop close to 2K on a framework. When you factor 32-64GB memory and 2TB of storage going the DIY offering, even for the high cost still works out competitive am0than anything else on the market for the specs. I'd rather pay frameworks "upgrade" tax than try to save £400 which has half the specs (vivobook core ultra series 2, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD)
@@DipSet85
1. I tend to hold onto my laptops for 5-7 years. I "saved" by getting less ram and thinking memory management is good enough.... it's not
2. Ever bloated software, OS and Websites eating ram unnecessarily
3. Upgrade to a 49" ultrawide, Graphics shares memory
4. My current usage already consumes 16GB leading to memory pressure warnings and causing extra heat, noise, power consumption and SSD wear from the heavy amounts of memory management
Had One For 2 Weeks The Fans Disgustinly Loud Impossible To Use On Board Mic SO RETURNED TO SAMSUNG
Price is reduced to $1999.00 on Best Buy USA
Samsung has seamless compatibility between their phone tablets and laptops. Although not enough to justify the price, but I would've liked Alex to have a look at it
Waiting for the 4 edge review
16 GB RAM on a Windows laptop should be a crime in 2024. You are gonna start using swap memory after opening 5 Chrome tabs...
You can get the hi to your option right it's a i 0:39 9 Ultra 32 gigs 4070 for 3000. The one reviewing goes for less than 2000.😅
you need that Mobile RTX 4070 in it, wait please, 1999 max !
Air intake on the bottom for a premium laptop is for me a no go. I use my laptop often in my bed but even on desk pad cooling will be compromised
I only ever remember that Samsung makes laptops when these videos come out.
The extra price I am assuming is the branding and ecosystem. Due to windows I would go for this over apple as atleast they won't trouble customer by making then buy every apple device just to make em compatible with the laptop
i like how everyone is saying ''if this were a mac you would be slamming your head across the wall'' and stuff bro we are not saying this is a good laptop for its price lmao
I enjoy every day with my Galaxy Book 4 Ultra, equipped with 32GB of RAM, which I purchased for around $1900 here in Korea.
However, I'm confident that the 16GB RAM model, priced at $2400, would not convince anyone to pay for it.