Hope everyone enjoyed the video! Since a ton of effort went into making this video, I want to give a massive shoutout to everyone who helped me along the way. Hamaji Neo - For inspiring me and allowing me to steal his idea Fluxe - For designing the sfm portion of the thumbnail Dwarfish - For creating the first 5 stage animations Stuffed - For creating the last 5 stage animations Literally all my subscribers - For waiting 10 years for another video Join my discord server for all things trading! discord.gg/Twb8SKY Follow me on Twitter twitter.com/VirtualTF And for all those asking: I would say I am personally at stage 9. I've been pretty lazy about trading throughout the last year :p
Best part is, you can sell your unusuals afterwards. Not only you get your money back, you don't have to spend years grinding those keys. Back in 2012 or 2013 I bough a few unusuals and other high-tier items I liked, played the game for another year, got tired of tf2 altogether, sold all my stuff. Did not lose any money as the result and got to enjoy being a special snowflake for a while.
I always found it funny how the actual official way to start a trade grind that is recommended by every trader under the sun is "You have to rip someone off".
How to trade 101 1. Play the game 2. Earn weapons by playing 3. Smelt into scrap 4.Turn the scrap to reclaimed then refined. 5. Repeat 6. Save for keys 7. Profit
Stage 11. Secret stage Literally a god among men, weilding burning flames unusuals in your right hand and prof. killstreak australium weapons in your left. No offer is too high for you own all the keys, Gaben himself cannot compare to the wealth you have aquired withen TF2. You have the power to destroy the economy by deleting high tier unusuals like thanos with the infinity gauntlet snapping the ammount of unusuals in half.
I started with Dr.buddahs scrap 2 unusual in 1 day vid and now after spending 400+ dollars on steam since like 2013 , I've ammassed a backpack of 2 REF!!! Man that scrapbanking works like a charm!
@@sharpwulff1139 yeah because not all of them cost a lot right i mean some cost $25 i dont care if it ain't a good unusual effect becuz i am not interested on having one EDIT: i am thankful to have you in this world
is that the real Hamaji Neo. Also while everyone is reading this, virtualeconomist is the last person I plan on letting use this idea. DM if you’d like to use the idea but I’m probably going to say no.
I started scrap banking once, huge huge motivation, traded for months non stop and I went from 1 ref in the beggining to 8 keys, then got scammed with an overly inflated skin. F. (Good old 2015-16 tf)
@@sheddingfeathers3622I can see for most people it’s the joy of the journey but in reality there are way too many other options where your time will be valued significantly more. There’s no reason to start at the bare bottom when you are a healthy, capable human being.
NightcoRe if you see an unusual effect, you know they have at least SOME experience. I mean, I still wear the gibus, I like the hat. FYI, I have 900 hours on tf2 now, and I main spy. Pretty good at it too.
7 years ago when I first started playing TF2 I was instantly addicted to trading and the game. Years later I had a backpack worth 33,000$. I sold it all and quiet the game after realizing how much of my life and money I was wasting in front of a computer. I just started playing again after about 2 years and just login for a few PUBs ounce a week for fun just for a hour or so at a time. I recommend people who love this game as I do remember one thing that its just a game not your life.
Or… just collect it and play the game because you enjoy it. You don’t need to have your sole focus on cosmetic items. It’s okay to collect items in a game you enjoy playing. It’s possible. 😊
He is just slaughtering them like they try but he just stomps them, crushes them into a fine powder and then shoot the powder at more freindlys and while he's doing that he's talking about tf2 trading on minecraft servers
its kind of a sweet end to the trader, they started, got big. and then faded out, somewhere down the line they probably caused someone t have the same idea as they did upon seeing and unusual. thus starting the cycle all over again. its kind of poetic
Hell yeah dude I thought I was the only one but looks like I was late to comment. It's beautiful to think about, really. I don't think the trading journey would be as fulfilling if it weren't so short. Ironic
I got scammed off of an unusual I bought with pure keys from an australium sniper rifle I got from MVM on my first tour, ive managed to get back to the ammount I had before but it took me like half a year to do so.
My friend told me I was in this video, I watch it and I'm the Heavy who gets obliterated on the Cart while pointing at people with a skull in my hand. I cant think of a better 5 seconds of me to be on TH-cam after like 4000 hours of playing TF2 lol.
Watching the gameplay was actually so difficult it’s like playing without a frontal lobe it’s like you sometimes decide to touch the mouse and when you do you’re not turning around or looking around but you’re just staring at an obscure spot on a wall while you walk towards it
Fr dude this was the first video I saw by him and thought "did this dude just get a lobotomy or something?" until I saw his "Why traders don't play casual" vid
At stage 6 I got scammed, gave up, did commissions and realized that months of effort trading were equivalent to basically 2 weeks of doing commisions. Got my glorious hat again and never touched trading again
This was extremely close to what happened to me, I didn't get to the last two stages before I cashed out but I got a few hundred keys then cashed out to help fund my PC build so I didn't have to game on my old laptop; I kept ~40 in case I decide to trade again but I'm not sure. I think you have missed a step, and that's reflection. Now that I look back on trading I see that I got in at an extremely lucky time, now it seems almost impossible to make profit in the lower economy due to bots having buy/sell orders for everything except for unusuals therefore why would anyone want to trade with you instead of automatically with a bot that is faster and probably cheaper. Either way, great video and it's nice to see you upload again (it's reminded me that I need to get back to it)!
I paid a guy who made a reddit thread for commissions. I can't find the thread, and I unfriended him on steam after our business was concluded. Sorry man.
Ok after I wrote that comment, I found out the guy deleted his profile (thus deleting the thread) but I did end up finding his steam profile again, here you go (spaced out for obvious reasons): s teamcommun ity.co m/id/ gorrahYT
I know, its changed too much and I really don't understand why its literally impossible to make profit anymore because everyone will try to rip you off and then just not even negotiate.
crate depression was great. Unfortunately I wasn't playing during it so I didn't get shit :/. At least the market is hilariously oversaturated now so I can buy whatever the fuck I want at like a quarter of what it would have been before!
@@Ieu6054 bruh this discussion was so long ago, just go to backpack and look through items after price checking to find out, make sure that they are easy to sell though.
It was cool looking back at this vid and seeing that the journey of trading is mutual. It was also cool to see you visit some of my favorite old servers.
CRAP.... That would have been a really good stage 11. I haven't seen as many people do that recently but in the past there were always tons of people who would swap to CSGO trading at the very end.
Valve: Hey so here's a shooter game based on teamwork Players: ok Valve: ...and a ton of overpriced cosmetics Players: **ANGERY** Valve: and also you can sell those cosmetics to each other Players: _stonks time_
Step 11.) Your account is used by an idiot friend and they either use your kits on bad weapons and delete your unusuals. 11.5) You stake your backpack with Heavy Boxing
This vid was 100% accurate im not sure about the later stages as i got scammed at 21 keys but everything else was spot on especially when he said "you will rewatch trading series" i have rewatched all of them like 5 times over lol
Mediocre Max Never bothered with those trade videos. Just hanging out in trade servers, scanning Tf2outpost and bp.tf seemed like the way to go. Took me a year to go from a nuts and bolts hermes to a burning crones dome (back when those were worth around 6k$ ).
I lost all my hats and taunts because my brother took my account and went on a trading server and traded all my stuff for nothing (BTW my brother is older so he did it on purpose)
Man, these TF2 traders are like that one crazy guy from your neighborhood who in order to make some roast chicken for dinner, would steal an egg from his neighbor's fridge and hatch it instead of going to the shop and buying some fresh meat.
U explained my 3 years of trading in this vid XD. Exept stage 10, im currently on my set loadouts and i already cashed out unusuals i didnt use in my loadouts.
I meet a Guy who was doing the Raggs to Riches. I gave him my 2022 & 2023 Winter cases, as well as my Summer 2023 & 2024 cases. Along with warpaint cases. He offered me metal, and I decided that I wasn't going to pay money for keys, and so I sold those cases. They were just rotting in my Backpack with no purpose.
I traded for about a year. I started when I got a green flames demo afro. I worked up to about a 300 key backpack then just sold everything expect nostalgia hats and bought some friends games for Christmas
@@0bashie I played TF2 since 2011 and made terrible mistakes like transform weapons I had in double in scraps, to craft token to try to gain weapons like the Huo-long heater... I discovered trading in 2015 and was like "OK I'm dumb. But afterall, I don't need unusual to play that game so I won't be trading !" but now... I want to start trading but I don't know where to begin... Is unboxing bad ? How can I get keys for that ? What should I sell and for what ? I don't want to make mistakes as I did before...
@@lOjOc1 Basically, don't ever unbox or do contracts, they're proven as a fact to be unprofitable. Buy keys from Marketplace.tf and better consider trading with around 8 keys to buy a cheap unusual as a quicksell on backkpack.tf or elsewhere. Look into making profit, checking the prices of the items offered in backpack.tf. And when offered lower than your price, ask to add more in metal or overpay in unusuals. I did a mistake when trading schadenfreude for the banjo taunt when the difference is .25 keys. I was basically scared for some reason, now I regret this.
trading hot tip (doesn't help sell hats, its more of a security measure against hackers): cash out at least once or twice a month and take it out as actual cash. that way, the hackers can't steal the keys if you have no keys to steal from your account.
Damn Virtual, I remember those times, but yet, I still enjoy TF2, and for some traders, we come back, after buying a sick amount of games that we cash out from tf2, and remember how it's still fun to play. Some come back to play as the normal hat wearing [any class here] player. Really Good video.
Mine N Adventurer _The Aegis Boy_ By trading you lose a fuck ton of time you can't get back while when you lose money you can just go to work abd make some more.....Buy 1 or 2 cheaper unusuals and be happy xD
Considering all the money you could make working even a simple job rather than grinding on trade servers even paying too much would probably be a better deal for most.
Me when I first saw an unusual : OMG who is that godlike figure I will never be like him or get an unusual Me now after get an unusual : This things suck
I remember getting scammed off my Genuine Officer’s Ushanka for some strange Santa hat I couldn’t even find and to this day I don’t know what I was thinking.
Tour of duty tickets aren’t a ripoff... Edit: I actually was smart when I added $5 to my account to buy keys, because I had watched a video telling what I should buy from the Mann Co Store, anyways, nice video.
I personally landed at a different stage 10 from lazy -> collector, spending real money even if I profit off of a few trades I make here and there the lazy way, I spend said profit on items I want for my collection, if not just buying keys for said items I want.
You know, in retrospect I wish not adding something about becoming a collector in the video. Because alot of people end up doing what you just described.
For me, I made it to stage 6. I managed traded my way up to 18 keys and bought a strange unusual tf logo battle bonnie. I was going to trade out that unusual and try to get up to more high tier unusuals, but i got so attached to it, I just decided I was done unusual trading.
TheVirtualEconomist Yeah, and honestly, I got really lucky with in getting that hat. The guy who was selling it, sold it for the same value as a normal tf logo battle bonnie!
What happened for me is I had no realization with trading, and had a pretty negative connotation upon it, then I (extremely luckily) unboxed a one in 12 unusual hat, then thought that I could probably sell it ( it was for heavy and I rarely play him) and buy something I actually wanted
I am the TF2 middle class, I have enough hats to get pass every day and I also sometimes have a little extra to change my wardrobe when I feel like it. I'm happy where I am. God Bless Capitalism.
Me: *searching on youtube a great unusual effects* Also me: *check community market and the price is 150$* Also me again: *press buy and regrets* And again: *donate unused unusual to youtuber* CYCLE
don’t buy or sell on the steam community marjet because a) Steam gets a share of the money and b) it’s cheaper on places like marketplace.tf, bazaar.tf, etc
How to become a pro trader in 3 steps: steal your moms credit card, buy a 300 dollar unusual, and get scammed and lose it Congrats you are a tf2 trader
![[TF2] Trade Server Stereotypes! (feat. SoundSmith)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rmzErndCdME/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TF2] Trade Server Stereotypes! (feat. SoundSmith)](/img/tr.png)
![[TF2] The Craziest Scam Methods In TF2 History](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jNv8_gVFLbo/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TF2] The Taunt Apocalypse](/img/n.gif)
Hope everyone enjoyed the video! Since a ton of effort went into making this video, I want to give a massive shoutout to everyone who helped me along the way.
Hamaji Neo - For inspiring me and allowing me to steal his idea
Fluxe - For designing the sfm portion of the thumbnail
Dwarfish - For creating the first 5 stage animations
Stuffed - For creating the last 5 stage animations
Literally all my subscribers - For waiting 10 years for another video
Join my discord server for all things trading! discord.gg/Twb8SKY
Follow me on Twitter twitter.com/VirtualTF
And for all those asking: I would say I am personally at stage 9. I've been pretty lazy about trading throughout the last year :p
No offense man but your “holier than thou” attitude kinda puts you on the end of the spectrum.
TheVirtualEconomist intro song ?
TheVirtualEconomist dont kill friendlys
No one knows where the road goes~ except the VirtualEconomist, who even included branching paths.
TheVirtualEconomist Can you do The 10 Stages Of Every Demo Main please ?
Updated Steps:
Stage 1: Buy A Crate
Stage 2: Unbox it
Stage 3: 100% Chance to get an unusual
Valve outsmarted everyone
Too bad people who did this don't have their easy unusuals anymore.
@@philippegagne9324 they still have them, it's just trade locked in their inventory.
kdusbtiek Than I poorly red the patch notes.
Stonks
instructions unclear
sold tf2
for pure keys?
Did you sell it for 0 dollars
Instructions unclear: Bought Half Life 3
if you managed to sell tf2 for more than 1 cent you’re a godlike trader
Level 100 trading
goddamn, having traded from 2013 to 2018 up to a 5k$ backpack, i see myself in every single one of these stages
Hi.
Hi.
@@pun5925 Hi lol
Hi
Im still a stage 1 after 4 years, proud owner of a 10$ backpack
(optinal stage) mommy's credit card
That's a fact
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No no no not optional mandatory
Best way
this man literally spent 30 minutes on a trade server acting like a tryhard with his unremarkable scattergun telecamping friendly engies
Tru
you are the crusader, go eliminate him, the impure creature.
Cry
@@MetrixGoat he said this 3 years ago
@@osijtcrunch8500that your boyfriend?
hope y’all made it past a year lol
"Key are 35 ref"
*cries in 55 ref*
Cries in inflation
*Laughs in blatant scams*
I feel like u predicted something in 2020. They are like 55 ref now
when i started trading keys were 2.33 ref haha
ye it inflated x2
Cheat code:
Have a full time job and buy the $200 unusual you wanted instead of spending a year working towards it by trading
Best part is, you can sell your unusuals afterwards. Not only you get your money back, you don't have to spend years grinding those keys. Back in 2012 or 2013 I bough a few unusuals and other high-tier items I liked, played the game for another year, got tired of tf2 altogether, sold all my stuff. Did not lose any money as the result and got to enjoy being a special snowflake for a while.
Ye but i rather think most of these ppl are doing it for fun.
too complicated
Well mate, I don't want to waste any money on frickin virtual items
@@acrispywaffleiron4014 XD
Becoming a tf2 trader sounds depressing.
Im currently on stage 5. Only made 2 keys profit so far. (I started with 10 keys)
Im on stage 3
i have terminal 7 i don't even know what that means
Stage 6
I'm between 3 and 4
11. They quit, and cry about the tf2 update that had 100% unusual drop rate in crates
nani?
Was that a thing?
Sander De Klein OMG NOOO
YE YE YE YE YE YE YER YE
Cole Hinson yes and broke the economy
I always found it funny how the actual official way to start a trade grind that is recommended by every trader under the sun is "You have to rip someone off".
MrRussianDoll This
@@Barlakopofai keys are 40, idk why people even still trade anymore, eco is fucko
@@CreeperBusters1000 was thinking of getting back into trading recently but saw the price of keys and shit and started to think otherwise
Performage Plushfire They used to be like 2.66 ref each... what the fuck happened lol
@downward spiral That implies that Value will actually update their game
How to trade 101
1. Play the game
2. Earn weapons by playing
3. Smelt into scrap
4.Turn the scrap to reclaimed then refined.
5. Repeat
6. Save for keys
7. Profit
100 years later. Still have no key cuz of inflation.
U are a dumb wit fuck.
I've been trying this since 2017. I've got one refined and two reclaimed. And that's it.
You need to smelt 800 weapons to get one key (I did the math, 44.44*9*2)
@@baroncosmos what how few weapons do u have? I managed to get 4 refined after playing the game for only 4 months by scrapping weapons
Anyone remember
"Hey Heavy, what's that cat on your back?"
"It's a waste of $60 that's what"
Da
Da
Da
Da
Da
Stage 11. Secret stage
Literally a god among men, weilding burning flames unusuals in your right hand and prof. killstreak australium weapons in your left. No offer is too high for you own all the keys, Gaben himself cannot compare to the wealth you have aquired withen TF2. You have the power to destroy the economy by deleting high tier unusuals like thanos with the infinity gauntlet snapping the ammount of unusuals in half.
Linkmon99 but in tf2 and not roblox
@@astropan2765 lol
I started with Dr.buddahs scrap 2 unusual in 1 day vid and now after spending 400+ dollars on steam since like 2013 , I've ammassed a backpack of 2 REF!!! Man that scrapbanking works like a charm!
Oof
Jeezums
Sugma^
I don’t know the words you say
You’re funny! As expected of the Overwatch clowns
I forgot this was before refined dropped to 4 cents
"I will get an unusual, no matter the cost!"
"$2000 DOLLARS??"
Or "15$?!"
@@sharpwulff1139 yeah because not all of them cost a lot right i mean some cost $25 i dont care if it ain't a good unusual effect becuz i am not interested on having one
EDIT: i am thankful to have you in this world
my reaction to unusuals lol
@@nikkolasbravo1591 lol I'm still alive
3$ "insert Lenny-face here"
is that the real Hamaji Neo. Also while everyone is reading this, virtualeconomist is the last person I plan on letting use this idea. DM if you’d like to use the idea but I’m probably going to say no.
Hamaji Neo Looks like it
no
Yes
@TheVirtualEconomist, it obviously is, his voice sounds identical. It can't be you obviously your offline "TheVirtualEconomist is offline right now"
nope
I started scrap banking once, huge huge motivation, traded for months non stop and I went from 1 ref in the beggining to 8 keys, then got scammed with an overly inflated skin. F. (Good old 2015-16 tf)
8 keys x $2.49 = $19.92. you could have made 8 keys in less than one day working at mcdonalds.
@@sheddingfeathers3622also if you bought them at 1.80/2.00
@@sheddingfeathers3622I can see for most people it’s the joy of the journey but in reality there are way too many other options where your time will be valued significantly more. There’s no reason to start at the bare bottom when you are a healthy, capable human being.
Frankly
Trading in tf2 is some thing you can only do if you have alot of time and patients
Which most people don't have.
Didn’t know you had to be a successful doctor! XD
I don't have a Ph.D though
This comment aged like fine wine
Unusual gibus should be added
NightcoRe omg, scorching gibus is my dream hat.
No because then people would be confused if they're f2ps or experienced players
NightcoRe if you see an unusual effect, you know they have at least SOME experience.
I mean, I still wear the gibus, I like the hat. FYI, I have 900 hours on tf2 now, and I main spy. Pretty good at it too.
I mean, galvanized gibus' exist, otherwise the only actual regular unusual gibus is a beams one that was given to a bug finder
But in mine opinion regular gibus is way better than this piece of Steel
7 years ago when I first started playing TF2 I was instantly addicted to trading and the game. Years later I had a backpack worth 33,000$. I sold it all and quiet the game after realizing how much of my life and money I was wasting in front of a computer. I just started playing again after about 2 years and just login for a few PUBs ounce a week for fun just for a hour or so at a time. I recommend people who love this game as I do remember one thing that its just a game not your life.
Good thing you sold it on time.
Or… just collect it and play the game because you enjoy it. You don’t need to have your sole focus on cosmetic items. It’s okay to collect items in a game you enjoy playing. It’s possible. 😊
dude that gameplay footage was trade server tryhard 101
crap
E X p o s E D
Jacob M but if they are not fighting already it makes you "that guy" who destroys everything people were doing
ikr , he kept fcking the party and the gameplay was garbage
He is just slaughtering them like they try but he just stomps them, crushes them into a fine powder and then shoot the powder at more freindlys and while he's doing that he's talking about tf2 trading on minecraft servers
its kind of a sweet end to the trader, they started, got big. and then faded out, somewhere down the line they probably caused someone t have the same idea as they did upon seeing and unusual. thus starting the cycle all over again.
its kind of poetic
there you go :)
Hell yeah dude I thought I was the only one but looks like I was late to comment. It's beautiful to think about, really. I don't think the trading journey would be as fulfilling if it weren't so short. Ironic
I like that actually
Talk about a cycle, i gave everything away to a new trader
I had 6 keys. I rework my wealth to 81 keys. I get scammed of 70 keys. quit trading again
love this video I can always rewatch this again and again truly and great video.
:)
9:27 hurt to listen to, imagine maining pyro and unboxing a cloud nine combustible kabuto only to be scammed out of it the next week
I got scammed off of an unusual I bought with pure keys from an australium sniper rifle I got from MVM on my first tour, ive managed to get back to the ammount I had before but it took me like half a year to do so.
@@deftomnivore215 I'm sorry to hear, I send my genuine empathy
@@deftomnivore215 sucks to be stupid
Lorelock and it sucks for you to be THAT GUY
Awesome video dude! Thanks for letting me work with you :)
“They bust a few weapons instead of keys,” *you didn’t have to do me like that bro*
And what did we learn, boys?
*The Mid-Tiers shall inherit the servers*
*Indeed. 30-80 keys will dominate all*
Russian revolution incoming
My friend told me I was in this video, I watch it and I'm the Heavy who gets obliterated on the Cart while pointing at people with a skull in my hand. I cant think of a better 5 seconds of me to be on TH-cam after like 4000 hours of playing TF2 lol.
:)
Go play with serious martin, lol. Yesterday after 800hrs of tf2 play i got mine 15 seconds of fame on his video too
It's OK, I dont care if I'm in a video or not, I just like to play the game. :)
Hamek me 2)
Hamek i got on TH-cam and all I see is me in all Chat saying the n Word..
Watching the gameplay was actually so difficult it’s like playing without a frontal lobe it’s like you sometimes decide to touch the mouse and when you do you’re not turning around or looking around but you’re just staring at an obscure spot on a wall while you walk towards it
Fr dude this was the first video I saw by him and thought "did this dude just get a lobotomy or something?" until I saw his "Why traders don't play casual" vid
3:07 It would be funny if it didn't hurt inside :(
We've all been there lol
I never done that lol. first thing I brought was a key to open a crate xD and got a weapon basically the same thing
I think I brought 5 keyless crate and some taunt
in my currency atleast tod tickets are much more worth it than mann co keys, so i just bought a ton of them
I know right
Remember when a key worth 17 ref? Good times bruh..
Zsolti Pogácsás Try 7
I played when they were 6 ref
now theyre 42 ref.
@@thefakbro504 fug you right
I played when they were 2.66 and less... it was something like 30 keys for buds and then like 30 buds for a meh unusual
At stage 6 I got scammed, gave up, did commissions and realized that months of effort trading were equivalent to basically 2 weeks of doing commisions. Got my glorious hat again and never touched trading again
This was extremely close to what happened to me, I didn't get to the last two stages before I cashed out but I got a few hundred keys then cashed out to help fund my PC build so I didn't have to game on my old laptop; I kept ~40 in case I decide to trade again but I'm not sure. I think you have missed a step, and that's reflection. Now that I look back on trading I see that I got in at an extremely lucky time, now it seems almost impossible to make profit in the lower economy due to bots having buy/sell orders for everything except for unusuals therefore why would anyone want to trade with you instead of automatically with a bot that is faster and probably cheaper. Either way, great video and it's nice to see you upload again (it's reminded me that I need to get back to it)!
thanks man! I cashed out most of my initial investment to fund my PC too :)
I paid a guy who made a reddit thread for commissions. I can't find the thread, and I unfriended him on steam after our business was concluded. Sorry man.
Ok after I wrote that comment, I found out the guy deleted his profile (thus deleting the thread) but I did end up finding his steam profile again, here you go (spaced out for obvious reasons): s teamcommun ity.co m/id/ gorrahYT
How much are 100 keys to US dollar?
Do something with your life, you loser. You're trading virtual hats, FFS!
You’re basically buying hats for metals then selling the hat for metals.
Pretty neat
"Keys are worth 35 refined" :seizure:
sad how the economy has become quite shit. 4 years ago keys were worth like 10 ref... now its like 30-40 ref lol
I know, its changed too much and I really don't understand why its literally impossible to make profit anymore because everyone will try to rip you off and then just not even negotiate.
@@nyyxursobad yeah, TF2 economy has just gone downhill from when I started playing and trading to now.
Its actualy kinda better to just buy a key from the mann co store....
@@acardboardbox8424 True. Less effort, cause work ( depending on where you work ) can be easier than grinding up 40+ ref lol
now it's 48 ref per key
got on tf2 for the first time in 2 years could not believe how cheap everything is get a unusual for 15 bucks
crate depression was great. Unfortunately I wasn't playing during it so I didn't get shit :/. At least the market is hilariously oversaturated now so I can buy whatever the fuck I want at like a quarter of what it would have been before!
What unusual misc were affected?
@@Ieu6054 bruh this discussion was so long ago, just go to backpack and look through items after price checking to find out, make sure that they are easy to sell though.
Crispy_Jimmy none, unusual miscs can’t be unboxed since the 2016 scream fortress update
It was cool looking back at this vid and seeing that the journey of trading is mutual. It was also cool to see you visit some of my favorite old servers.
Why am I watching this I don't trade
because it's a good video :^)
And i'm not even a player.
I dont even have a PC
Valipower same it died
i don't even exist how am i watching this and how am i writing this
6:20 straight up gonna kill a friendly.
Hes a scout it makes sence
Scunt moment
Once I wanted an unusual. But then I realized how easy it is to lead the enemy team into a false sense of security by just wearing a Gibus.
You forgot the optional 11 th stage; transitioning to CS:GO trading
CRAP.... That would have been a really good stage 11. I haven't seen as many people do that recently but in the past there were always tons of people who would swap to CSGO trading at the very end.
how do i trade at early stages nowadays? bots and stuff ruin my early trading life xd
I did that.
Valve: Hey so here's a shooter game based on teamwork
Players: ok
Valve: ...and a ton of overpriced cosmetics
Players: **ANGERY**
Valve: and also you can sell those cosmetics to each other
Players: _stonks time_
Factoids
Step 11.) Your account is used by an idiot friend and they either use your kits on bad weapons and delete your unusuals.
11.5) You stake your backpack with Heavy Boxing
This vid was 100% accurate im not sure about the later stages as i got scammed at 21 keys but everything else was spot on especially when he said "you will rewatch trading series" i have rewatched all of them like 5 times over lol
:)
TheVirtualEconomist I just buy unusuals with money. 180$ BP. Evryone is a bot, or an scammer.
Mediocre Max Never bothered with those trade videos. Just hanging out in trade servers, scanning Tf2outpost and bp.tf seemed like the way to go. Took me a year to go from a nuts and bolts hermes to a burning crones dome (back when those were worth around 6k$ ).
I lost all my hats and taunts because my brother took my account and went on a trading server and traded all my stuff for nothing (BTW my brother is older so he did it on purpose)
Man, these TF2 traders are like that one crazy guy from your neighborhood who in order to make some roast chicken for dinner, would steal an egg from his neighbor's fridge and hatch it instead of going to the shop and buying some fresh meat.
3:07 *Truth hurts*
U explained my 3 years of trading in this vid XD. Exept stage 10, im currently on my set loadouts and i already cashed out unusuals i didnt use in my loadouts.
I meet a Guy who was doing the Raggs to Riches. I gave him my 2022 & 2023 Winter cases, as well as my Summer 2023 & 2024 cases. Along with warpaint cases. He offered me metal, and I decided that I wasn't going to pay money for keys, and so I sold those cases. They were just rotting in my Backpack with no purpose.
4 years of trading for myself.
I had finally gotten a good unusual and retired.
4 Y E A R S
I traded for about a year. I started when I got a green flames demo afro. I worked up to about a 300 key backpack then just sold everything expect nostalgia hats and bought some friends games for Christmas
12:30 PFFFFFTTT who needs a life when i can just spend 20 hours a day trading :P
Unlike anyone with 2 brain cells they don't buy keys
Me:buys 3 keys
Also me
UNBOX EVERYTHING
@@0bashie I played TF2 since 2011 and made terrible mistakes like transform weapons I had in double in scraps, to craft token to try to gain weapons like the Huo-long heater... I discovered trading in 2015 and was like "OK I'm dumb. But afterall, I don't need unusual to play that game so I won't be trading !" but now... I want to start trading but I don't know where to begin... Is unboxing bad ? How can I get keys for that ? What should I sell and for what ? I don't want to make mistakes as I did before...
@@lOjOc1 Basically, don't ever unbox or do contracts, they're proven as a fact to be unprofitable. Buy keys from Marketplace.tf and better consider trading with around 8 keys to buy a cheap unusual as a quicksell on backkpack.tf or elsewhere. Look into making profit, checking the prices of the items offered in backpack.tf. And when offered lower than your price, ask to add more in metal or overpay in unusuals. I did a mistake when trading schadenfreude for the banjo taunt when the difference is .25 keys. I was basically scared for some reason, now I regret this.
I got to stage 7 and cashed out. Trading is such a weird and wonderful thing.
Same
I never got past stage 1. I'd just rather buy the items and actually play the game.
Weapon skins seem like the new trading meta.
Same. Games aren’t supposed to be stressful >:(
I'd rather be an invite player rather than have one of the top bps in terms of value tbh
If u do it right u can make tons of profit and buy lots of aussies or unusuals
trading hot tip (doesn't help sell hats, its more of a security measure against hackers):
cash out at least once or twice a month and take it out as actual cash. that way, the hackers can't steal the keys if you have no keys to steal from your account.
This really did describe my tf2 experience
:)
6:20 Congratulations! You kill friendlies.
Congratulations! You are a fucking idiot
Congratulations! You don't know how to play the game.
@@pondabyss Congratulations! You think there's a "wrong" way to play the game!
@@theinternetpolice2078 i meant he didn't know how to play the game ... killing friendlies is nice
@@pondabyss congratulations! You're an arse
Im at the stage where i just realized that you can get just around any unique quality cosmetic for less than 40 cents on backpack tf
This is literally me, went through all the stages
Always fear Gibuses ,you never know what they are capable of(or not capable of)
[Also, I'm pretty sure I saw you on FirePower, huh]
☭
TheHackia STARS AND STRIPES BEAT HAMMER AND SIKLE LOOK IT UP
Noice
Unusual +gibus= god
There's 2 types of gibus, new players and God tiers pretending to be new players
With current standards of trading and the economy, it took me nearly 2 years to get from absolutely nothing to an unusual.
I never understand why people dislike your vids. There so good!
some have come from my channel accusing him of copying which, is partially true but I granted him permission. Sorry about that.
Frag-A-Lot Because some of his videos which are more-community directed or.... category-wise. And people feel this is kind of directed to them.
Damn Virtual, I remember those times, but yet, I still enjoy TF2, and for some traders, we come back, after buying a sick amount of games that we cash out from tf2, and remember how it's still fun to play. Some come back to play as the normal hat wearing [any class here] player.
Really Good video.
Glad you enjoyed :)
I enjoyed a lot, thx
6:12 Cmon, they are just hanging around!
How to get unusuals without going through the trade game:
1. Buy the unusual hat on the steam community market
How to lose money by buying unusuals
1) Buy the unusual hat on the steam community market
Mine N Adventurer _The Aegis Boy_ By trading you lose a fuck ton of time you can't get back while when you lose money you can just go to work abd make some more.....Buy 1 or 2 cheaper unusuals and be happy xD
Marketplace.tf
Considering all the money you could make working even a simple job rather than grinding on trade servers even paying too much would probably be a better deal for most.
I would be very happy if I even got a cheap unusual, therefore I agree with your strategy
Me when I first saw an unusual : OMG who is that godlike figure I will never be like him or get an unusual
Me now after get an unusual : This things suck
Yeah
26-7
Steam: Mmm you want an unusual.. Sure
Steam:You get an unusual and you get an unusual !!
Steam: EVERYONE GETS AN UNUSUAL
>looks right at me and says "somehow these traders wind up with a god tier call class unusual they cant sell."
lol
I remember getting scammed off my Genuine Officer’s Ushanka for some strange Santa hat I couldn’t even find and to this day I don’t know what I was thinking.
5 years later, "keys are worth up to 35 refined" pain, suffering even
Why dont you do a trading guide for 2019?
Because trading is literally on fire.
@@vanilla8956 whatn do u mean by that
@@z3ddd how could you not know? go to theafricanredheads video for a summary if you dont
Heh
@@FelipeJaquez I had no clue at the time lol
I was expecting a part where they learn the power of gambling
I like how you portray Hamaji Neo
Tour of duty tickets aren’t a ripoff...
Edit: I actually was smart when I added $5 to my account to buy keys, because I had watched a video telling what I should buy from the Mann Co Store, anyways, nice video.
Switch Stop Fan! Me too
I personally landed at a different stage 10 from lazy -> collector, spending real money even if I profit off of a few trades I make here and there the lazy way, I spend said profit on items I want for my collection, if not just buying keys for said items I want.
And this is literally what I aim for aswell. Getting a collection of nice unusual hats and be known with them (kind of like Signature stuff)
I've gone down the weapon path since they added them in gun mettle I've got quite an exquisite collection of rare and even quite some 1 of 1's
You know, in retrospect I wish not adding something about becoming a collector in the video. Because alot of people end up doing what you just described.
Well you can make trade when you have premium And you get a rare item drop that IS FUCKING MORE VALUABLE THAN MY HAT WHAT?!?
For me, I made it to stage 6. I managed traded my way up to 18 keys and bought a strange unusual tf logo battle bonnie. I was going to trade out that unusual and try to get up to more high tier unusuals, but i got so attached to it, I just decided I was done unusual trading.
hey, I can't blame you for wanting to keep a nice unusual :p
TheVirtualEconomist Yeah, and honestly, I got really lucky with in getting that hat. The guy who was selling it, sold it for the same value as a normal tf logo battle bonnie!
"Konosuba music"
I see that you are a man of culture as well.
Talk to Hamaji I just copied his music lol
TheVirtualEconomist I see that Hamaji is definitely a man of culture as well
I CAN'T FIND THIS SONG! I NEED TO GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD!
Moon Man song's in the description
ah, i see there are another man of culture in this video uploading/watching website
What happened for me is I had no realization with trading, and had a pretty negative connotation upon it, then I (extremely luckily) unboxed a one in 12 unusual hat, then thought that I could probably sell it ( it was for heavy and I rarely play him) and buy something I actually wanted
Great video dude
Glad you enjoyed!
I am the TF2 middle class, I have enough hats to get pass every day and I also sometimes have a little extra to change my wardrobe when I feel like it. I'm happy where I am. God Bless Capitalism.
My first Mannco purchase was a map stamp and a summer crate key. i got a cool spy cosmetic and that shiny pirate hat.
the ending was more depressing than Requiem for a Dream.
Me: *searching on youtube a great unusual effects*
Also me: *check community market and the price is 150$*
Also me again: *press buy and regrets*
And again: *donate unused unusual to youtuber*
CYCLE
don’t buy or sell on the steam community marjet because a) Steam gets a share of the money and b) it’s cheaper on places like marketplace.tf, bazaar.tf, etc
It’s actually interesting that tf2 has its own economy and trading
So Virtual what are you?
Stage 9 I'd say. I'm pretty lazy rn lol
TheVirtualEconomist im basically stage 1 but with premiums
Wow you have improved last time it was 3 months but this time it was 2 months
But seriously though nice video
:) Next time it's gonna be sub 2 weeks
TheVirtualEconomist ye then after a time everyday 1 vid
5:45 look at the scouts shotgun he reloads in sync with the song
My stages:
Stage 1 - Look up prices for everything
Stage 2 - Buy expensive items
Stage 3 - Sell for double the money
Stage 4 - *stonks*
Step 1) Go on TF2 Marketplace
Step 2) buy every weapon for super low prices
Step 3) there is no Step 3!
7:50 what trade map is this called in tf2?
If you get exposed to pyrojoe at first sight I'm sorry for your loss
Sweet vid!
Glad you enjoyed!
How to become a pro trader in 3 steps: steal your moms credit card, buy a 300 dollar unusual, and get scammed and lose it
Congrats you are a tf2 trader
When you mentioned rip off people.. I thought of a video idea. That's if you want. Stages of a Scammer?
Updated step: Go to the market during the stock crash and buy whatever you want for like 4 bucks
What unusual all class miscs were affected?
Crispy_Jimmy dude the Crate Depression is long gone, prices are back to normal now
Hell when I made that comment prices were returning to mromal
@@Ieu6054 also none of the all class miscs were effected because of how rare they are and how valuable they are even in the face of a market crash
How do you join trade servers. I join one but it does not join. It will only say downloading and completely not move. I play on a Mac
Step 1: Buy keys
Step 2: Sell keys for weapons
Step 3: Sell your whole inventory for weapons
Step 4: Poor boi