Well as a casual trader who buys to keep instead of buying for profit, I think this is pretty rad and I really wish this would happen to unusual weapons as well.
I mean unusual weapons sell just as bad as taunts. The only reason they are not as cheap is because there are literally infinite different versions of each weapon so nobody has to compete with each other.
King The Son yes, I like ponies, I have a pony avatar. How about something relevant to the discussion? I will say that recently its been great buying weapons im missing from people who own multiples. Like my Killstreak Shooting Star for example. I even plan to finally buy the Awper hand and the three rune blade.
Or trying very hard to crossbow players with either full health or 40HP missing when it would be the perfect time to build uber or overheals instead. And also, missing half the shots or getting very little out of them. I'm sorry, I'm a perfectionist medic main, I don't like going all toxic on other medics. But part of me still believes that players with australiums and unusuals must be gods at the game.
People are mostly into trading to make a profit. With these taunts, they're hard to trade. Some people though don't care about prices and profit, they only want to look good. (btw that's not a bad thing)
100% OK with this. I'm also OK with rarity, but It is purely cosmetic and I shouldn't have to pay someone $100+ dollars to have a glowing orb of fire around my character.
it's a virtual economy. There's going to be some very expensive items, and they're only priced that way because people pay for it (usually with other items but you get the idea)
@@wrongtime9097 That's why I stopped trading tbh. The price of a cool item I want is based on how much someone is willing to swipe their credit card into steam like a slot machine to get one of those items. I'd rather earn through gameplay than gamble for my items.
@TheLegoDude14 I just started trading again with marketplace.tf, you just buy discounted items and sell them at full price to poeple or to bots => easy profit, don't give up
Tough break, buddy, but you gotta remember: Whatever's bad for traders is good for the casual consumers. Guess which group Valve is more inclined to cater to.
cereal Not that they care about people more than money, but that they care about their own product and customers (the things that make them money) more than some largely self-contained inconsequential market that happens to have attached itself to their product.
Looks like people realized that taunts are situational and their unusual variants cannot be flexed constantly during gameplay, unlike hats which will always show their effect.
Did you even watch the video? When I see someone pull out an unusual taunt, I know that I can buy that today, but if the drop rate was much lower or exclusive, then it would be more of a flex
community: WTF VALVE GIVE US MORE RARE ITEMS valve: ok community: WTF VALVE THESE ARE TOO RARE valve: ok yeah i guess it's understandable you guys with australium weapons and high-tier unusual hats might be a little disappointed so we suppose we could open the market a bi-- community: WTF VALVE THESE AREN'T ENOUGH GIVE US MORE valve: ok i guess this'll destroy the economy but you guys are pretty adamant about this, just remember that the prices are gonna dro-- community: WTF VALVE WHY AREN'T PEOPLE BUYING MY UNUSUAL SPENT WELL SPIRITS FOR $300 WORTH OF KEYS ANYMORE valve: what do u want us to do dude, we didn't overhype this shi- community: WTF VALVE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THIS GAME this community is **always** the source of its own failures. this is the only gaming community i know that will beg and screech on discussion forums and youtube videos for more of something, only to get it exactly how they want it - then realizing how bad the request turned out, they bite the hands that feed them and then convince themselves that they're the victims at the hands of some heartless profit-bound corporate the day this game dies is the day shit hits the fan once people actually realize that their items were worth nothing in return for the real live cash they bought them with in the first place. the fact that valve created a virtual economy is impressive enough in the first place, yet you people completely forget that. however you expect them to "fix" it, as if it were able to be done at the press of a button. are you never satisfied? oh well.. good ol' tf2... great game, horrible community and a **few** kind-hearted developers who put up with the abuse just because they like the game and to some degree, the very same community that consistently stabs them in the back... it's been ten years people, i think it's time to remind ourselves that we aren't owed anything with this game, nor do we deserve anything new. we still get free shit though... FREE.. FUCKING... UPDATES.. AFTER TEN YEARS... that we still manage to criticize and harangue about. i digress but whoever is still reading understands (whether they agree or disagree)
Hit the nail right on the head. I'd expect all future taunts/effects to no longer be rare, unless the Valve/TF Team actually give a damn about the in game economy a bit.
Im not gonna lie, I sometimes think Valve is actively trying to kill the secondary market through subversion and harmful updates, just so that way everything has go through the SCM instead, and as such they get a cut.
Well, you need to also consider this. The "Secondary Market" is also the one thing that in a way is helping to keep the game/trading scene alive. While yes, people would use the SCM to buy/sell stuff for "Funds", most would still rather sell stuff for cash they can use anywhere else, AND they would rather spend their cash directly for items they wouldn't be able to get off of the SCM since it's not easy to 1-1 trade items with another user if there are other buyers/sellers, the price limit of items, and the SCM has that 7 day hold on bought/sold items (At least for trading) so that also discourages some use of it. And either way, Valve still makes money to an extent off the secondary market if those items get reinserted back through their market, or are traded for keys, etc. That have to be bought off of the Mann-Co store in the first place (Even though there are enough keys currently that you don't really have to buy off of Mann-Co, and we have Marketplace.tf) I wouldn't be surprised if they were, but at the same time you need to see that they haven't really tried to stop anything for the past few years with TF2 or CSGO. The most they have done is try to stop Gambling sites due to Laws/Scamming going on.
So what you're saying is now is the time to buy buy buy. As someone who doesn't care about getting the most valuable items, (instead I get just what I think is cool,) and making money off this, this is all good news to me, and now I can get cool unusual taunts for relatively low prices. I think part of the reason more unusual have been made is for ( and I know this is gonna sound selfish and self absorbed) average players like me, so we can have them too and not just the super rich traders, as I think the average player, not the trader is the majority of the player base. Hey when you gamble be prepared to lose, so sorry, you get no pity from me for the thousands of $s lost. Benefit of the many (casual players) over the few (traders).
The unusualifiers are easy to sell for quite a bit on the marketplace. Thats all valve cares about, is how much money goes through the marketplace. Ive always hated trading with the TF2 community. Every single one ive traded with wants what they ask for "plus extra". Nothing but greedy bois in the trading community. Glad that its dying.
JJack Well I just witnessed two people on a Hightower server. One had a burning team captain and the other had a scorching flames team captain with a golden pan.
Shitload of hats and 90% of them are unoptimized, plus those unusual effects and they haven't update their SteamPipe database makes this game runs very poorly on potato PCs Also the addition of weapon skins and unusual taunts tax it even further whilst also stopped supporting DX8, patching DX9 and overall the game itself, other than some map changes
Valve does, of course, know about the secondary market and the trading community. However, they are more concerned with the actual game and making it fun, because, at the end of the day, that's the point of a game. That does, however, detriment the trading community, which is unfortunate, but, in their eyes, it is much better to have a fun game than to have a good trading community.
why would valve give a shit about your second economy? thats not how capitalism works, just like how YOU will always work for whats best for you at the expense of another, valve did the same, just because they are a company doesnt make it different
Anyone that says tf2 trading is profitable is lying. Theres no actual sink for any expensive item and the price for everything is fixed. Only way you go up is by manipulating and sharing people
how 2 profit: shark and manipulate inexperienced people. how 2 make a massive profit very quickly: get a minimum wage job or mown a lawn work for like 6 to 8 hours and boom easy 50 keys every day. do that for a month and then you'll have one of the top 100 backpacks.
I remember checking on all the unusual taunts recently and they’re sooooo cheap. I remember when the new taunts like the high five or conga came out was around the time I quit as well. Really interesting to see how it all collapsed
So apparently someone told me valve dont let spells drop on Halloween cause it would ruin the worth of the current ones, but valve ruined unusual taunts, so i dont buy it.
I was one of those with an unusualifyer, I hedged my bets on applying it for a jury rigged "double down" if you will, and unusual'd a taunt and was lucky to get Showstopper effect (Team coloured fireworks) So there weren't *that* many on the market. The Backpack.tf price was falling faster than the Strange Kritzkreig.
Me, who don't have a single key worth backpack: "I'm mad." Me seing people that bougth 100 Keys Unusual Taunts that now are worth 10 keys: "But I ain't stressin'!"
I've never been much into tf2 trading, but it sounds to me like you and the rest of the community are just whining that you can't sell your video game pixels for hundreds of dollars. Boo hoo. Valve committed the deadly sin of letting a reasonable portion of their player-base get access to cool items. Those monsters.
Alaric11 "oh no, I'm watching a video about something I don't like and now I'm upset. How could this happen to me?" Also any item worth money is equatable to anything else. Would you heckle the losers in a crashing housing market for "whining that you can't see your pieces of wood and plaster for thousands of dollars. Boo hoo." Money is money, and don't watch videos just to get mad, it's not healthy.
I was curious about the topic so i watched it, then i was let down and disappointing. You seem like a mad person not me, i don't have a dog in the fight. I don't collect tf2 items. So I wouldn't care one way or the other. But if this is representative of the community then I'm glad i never took part in it.
So they only bought it so they could sell it at a mark up? Am I supposed to feel bad about that? "I artificially made things more expensive for others and now I can't keep scamming everyone". lol bro.
So can you tell me why I, someone who can't afford to spend 20-200$ on a non-gameplay item in a f2p game that I would like to have and use, why should I care if items in tf2 are becoming cheaper and therefore actually available to me? It seems like you complain about things becoming cheaper only because it effects your and other traders bottomlines by allowing people to get them for cheaper than hundreds of dollars.
It's crazy how fast time flies in tf2 since I don't play it regularly any more, if you asked me before the video about the price of an unusual taunt I would have said they are super expensive, I remember playing on cactus canyon like it was a month ago, while it is out since meet your match in 2016(?)...
Hello:) I'm an employee at Valve. We're planning to mass release first gen effects the next update by adding a crate with an unusual unbox rate of 4% and making all unusuals unboxed from that crate 1st gen. We think this would be a nice addition and we can't imagine it screwing over traders
HazmatPyro Of Course, we can't forget to specifically increase the drop rate of Burning Flames Team Captains to around 8% to 10%. Everyone wants the opportunity to get this great quality, so why not? It couldn't possibly have any ramifications, especially to any outside markets (but let's be honest, those probably don't exist).
kinda the issue with trading items you technically don't "own", it's not so much a free market as it is a fascist one under the rules of something big, in this case Valve. Can't expect them to do the nice thing here is what I'm saying, and that sucks because lots of people made bank on this.
Don't uber heavies as first priority, everyone can just run away before they die to the heavy. Demo (with a sticky launcher) should be highest priority uber target, then soldier, then the rest with sniper being least priority.
i would say ubering a heavy comes in handy against sentry guns but you're definitely right about demos being the high priority. not only can they blow the sentry to pieces but also they can rip the engineer apart before he has a chance to keep his sentry alive for a bit longer, but that doesn't stop the fact that some people would be using the short circuit (even if it is not as effective against sticky spam) or in other rare cases either a pyro or a demoman with either Quickie bomb or Scottish resistance that help the engineer in countering stickies, those are cases where ubering a class like a heavy is a higher priority if you want that sentry nest down. idk who tf is that part of me that explained this in such detail but whatever xd
I never realized taunts lowered in price so drastically. I stopped playing once meet your match came out, and didn't return until jungle inferno. I was always so surprised to see other players with so many unusual taunts; I had no idea how they could have afforded so many expensive items... until I realized they weren't expensive anymore
I was pretty upset when I realized unusual taunts weren't anywhere near as expensive as they were before when I unboxed a sunbeams (or whatever the taunt equivalent is) conga taunt and it's worth 27 keys now and i can just imagine how much it would have been worth if the taunt economy didn't get screwed
Years ago, when buds were a thing, I traded from a Blizzard furious Furigasa to a Green Energy drill sergeant and sold everything and left for good and have been pretty glad I did, so I'm not too up to date on the trading scene. But taunts always seemed like a really bad investment to begin with only because they're like spy unusual - you don't see spy unusual as much because they're hiding or disguised. Likewise, you'd only see an unusual taunt in spawn unless it's a moving taunt like the bumpercar or the spy-snake-box.
I've literally left trading in this game untouched ever since keys went over 3 ref years ago, but I still watch these videos and find myself entertained and informed.
I remember when I unboxed my unusual conga, it was going on the community market for £260+(~$341/~208 keys) Now it's only around £21(~$28/~17 keys) based on the tf2 price calculator and community market values
I unboxed a taunt unusualifier on the first night of 2016 Halloween (balloonibouncer) and applied it and ended up selling it for ~250 dollars on marketplace. I was reminiscing a few weeks ago and decided to check how much my same item was going for and was absolutely shocked at the price.
HOLY SHIT THAT'S ME AT 14:06 (My name is Doloquiti and I was playing demo) I NEVER REALIZED THAT WAS THE VIRTUAL ECONOMIST THAT'S SO COOL And now the process of sifting through all of my prec demo files until I find this clip.
![[TF2] The Day Valve Broke the TF2 Economy](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VIGLWpd8Jw0/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TF2] The Day Valve Broke the TF2 Economy](/img/tr.png)
![[TF2] The Hitman's Heatmaker Is A Weapon That Exists](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KZN-7JPwM6U/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TF2] Trade Server Stereotypes! (feat. SoundSmith)](/img/n.gif)
Traders: "oh no we lost a lot of money!"
Me: *laughs in Casual Player*
Hermann Fegelein
Got a Show Stopper Deep Fried Desire for like 20ref when all of this went down lol, good times
*Schadenfreude intensifies*
I mean I had a taunt back then somewhere around 300 keys when I saw the price went super super super down
@@jaiden7441 dang I feel bad for you
Hoarding unusual’s and selling them at exorbitant markups? To the guillotine
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"Man, I haven't played TF2 in ages. . ."
LAST PLAYED: A while ago
hmmmmm. . .
Photoshop :)
🤔,
Why would you use Photoshop to make your claim false?
CaiMacCass none of ur business
CaiMacCass it was just for the vid example
Ima joking u know
So what you’re saying is: the taunts pulled a Great Depression
No, the traders did. They're the cancer of tf2
DeclaringPond 22 this
+DeclaringPond 22
Offers and demands, my dude
DeclaringPond 22
Actually the friendlies are-
Not so much a Great Depression so much as Greece as of late.
"...there was only one type of Unusual in existence: the Unusual hat."
Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker: Am I a joke to you?
@Fernando Mussart fair enough
nobody considers the HHHH unusual in practice lol.
its unusual in name only.
@@mauroghenstill an unusual tho
@@dutchschaefer11 I mean, yeah it's kinda is
R.I.P players that paid 100 keys on a unusual taunt
Dude I would be like so mad like god bro ¯\_⊜෴⊜_/¯ dA fAk
I sold an unusual taunt I had, regret it every day
@@kms6647 why do you regret it?
After key costed only 2.33 ref or something, but I don't Know if that was in that time
Well as a casual trader who buys to keep instead of buying for profit, I think this is pretty rad and I really wish this would happen to unusual weapons as well.
I mean unusual weapons sell just as bad as taunts. The only reason they are not as cheap is because there are literally infinite different versions of each weapon so nobody has to compete with each other.
I dont trade myself but I like to buy stuff on the market place :3
King The Son yes, I like ponies, I have a pony avatar. How about something relevant to the discussion?
I will say that recently its been great buying weapons im missing from people who own multiples. Like my Killstreak Shooting Star for example. I even plan to finally buy the Awper hand and the three rune blade.
belmontzar i never sell stuff to horsefuckers, only to normal human beings
King The Son i use the Steam Marketplace so im just buying whats already up for sale
I swear to god the whole gameplay here is you dying of snipers.
Innit that the trader stereotype? xD
Or trying very hard to crossbow players with either full health or 40HP missing when it would be the perfect time to build uber or overheals instead. And also, missing half the shots or getting very little out of them.
I'm sorry, I'm a perfectionist medic main, I don't like going all toxic on other medics. But part of me still believes that players with australiums and unusuals must be gods at the game.
What really annoyed me was running away from your targeted healing. Your heavy died because you didn’t COMMIT TO HIS PUSH
Damn snipers, op class
@@Sercil00 or giving uber to only 1 person against sentry when near is dying soldier
I could never get back into trading. It seems too hard now
Waynimations yeah with places like backpack.tf and scrap.tf there’s no point in trading....
Especially if you're one of the poor saps like me that doesn't have mobile authenticator, bots just win outright.
fuck trading lol
Waynimations same stuff
Low tier trading is completely pointless nowadays. But unusual trading can still be profitable.
I always personally thought that unusual taunts are more for keepsake than selling. Great video man keep it up!
Glad you enjoyed!
People are mostly into trading to make a profit. With these taunts, they're hard to trade. Some people though don't care about prices and profit, they only want to look good. (btw that's not a bad thing)
Stupid Face dude I am a trader I ain't dumb lol
100% OK with this. I'm also OK with rarity, but It is purely cosmetic and I shouldn't have to pay someone $100+ dollars to have a glowing orb of fire around my character.
it's a virtual economy. There's going to be some very expensive items, and they're only priced that way because people pay for it (usually with other items but you get the idea)
@@wrongtime9097 That's why I stopped trading tbh. The price of a cool item I want is based on how much someone is willing to swipe their credit card into steam like a slot machine to get one of those items. I'd rather earn through gameplay than gamble for my items.
There is a 10.000$ hat on Marketplace.tf and yesterday it was sold...
Destroy the virtual economy.
@TheLegoDude14 I just started trading again with marketplace.tf, you just buy discounted items and sell them at full price to poeple or to bots => easy profit, don't give up
2018: Taunt apocalypse
2019: Unusual apocalypse
2020: Australium apocalypse
2021: everything is now 0.01 and the market comes to a complete halt and valve questions its life choices :l
2022: heavy update and everyone is happy
2023: gibus are now 300 keys and 100 ref
@@Lydroo lol Aussie is burning in 2020
It's a good to everybody who didn't already own any unusual taunts. We can afford them now, and more people with unusuals is a good thing in my book.
Tough break, buddy, but you gotta remember:
Whatever's bad for traders is good for the casual consumers.
Guess which group Valve is more inclined to cater to.
Dexxus casuals, and I'm happy that they are
Trading gives such stress, time consume and rage that they are basically saving yall lives
NUTCASE71733 you're saying valve gives priority to people instead of money? LMAO
Dexxus hmmmmmm
cereal Not that they care about people more than money, but that they care about their own product and customers (the things that make them money) more than some largely self-contained inconsequential market that happens to have attached itself to their product.
@S Laurence this
Looks like people realized that taunts are situational and their unusual variants cannot be flexed constantly during gameplay, unlike hats which will always show their effect.
Well, unless if you have the continuous/mobile taunts that exist to show em off a bit more.
@Gofaw bruh
Did you even watch the video? When I see someone pull out an unusual taunt, I know that I can buy that today, but if the drop rate was much lower or exclusive, then it would be more of a flex
community: WTF VALVE GIVE US MORE RARE ITEMS
valve: ok
community: WTF VALVE THESE ARE TOO RARE
valve: ok yeah i guess it's understandable you guys with australium weapons and high-tier unusual hats might be a little disappointed so we suppose we could open the market a bi--
community: WTF VALVE THESE AREN'T ENOUGH GIVE US MORE
valve: ok i guess this'll destroy the economy but you guys are pretty adamant about this, just remember that the prices are gonna dro--
community: WTF VALVE WHY AREN'T PEOPLE BUYING MY UNUSUAL SPENT WELL SPIRITS FOR $300 WORTH OF KEYS ANYMORE
valve: what do u want us to do dude, we didn't overhype this shi-
community: WTF VALVE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THIS GAME
this community is **always** the source of its own failures. this is the only gaming community i know that will beg and screech on discussion forums and youtube videos for more of something, only to get it exactly how they want it - then realizing how bad the request turned out, they bite the hands that feed them and then convince themselves that they're the victims at the hands of some heartless profit-bound corporate
the day this game dies is the day shit hits the fan once people actually realize that their items were worth nothing in return for the real live cash they bought them with in the first place.
the fact that valve created a virtual economy is impressive enough in the first place, yet you people completely forget that. however you expect them to "fix" it, as if it were able to be done at the press of a button. are you never satisfied?
oh well.. good ol' tf2... great game, horrible community and a **few** kind-hearted developers who put up with the abuse just because they like the game and to some degree, the very same community that consistently stabs them in the back...
it's been ten years people, i think it's time to remind ourselves that we aren't owed anything with this game, nor do we deserve anything new. we still get free shit though... FREE.. FUCKING... UPDATES.. AFTER TEN YEARS... that we still manage to criticize and harangue about. i digress but whoever is still reading understands (whether they agree or disagree)
Finally sonebody understands
That comment must have have taken time.
Valve: Understandable, have a nice day*
Thx for taking the time to make this
yeah mang youre not allowed to criticize it because theyre giving you updates i guess, you ungrateful fuck
At least unusual taunts are easy to get..
Edit: fix spelling
Thompsonator469 found the redditor
fixed*
Hit the nail right on the head.
I'd expect all future taunts/effects to no longer be rare, unless the Valve/TF Team actually give a damn about the in game economy a bit.
SubZeroDestruction it's kinda strange, though. Deep down, you kinda want unusual hats to drop more often but at the same time be rare.,.
Honestly I've thought the same thing. Problem is, rare and cheap don't really go hand in hand when you think about supply and demand.
Im not gonna lie, I sometimes think Valve is actively trying to kill the secondary market through subversion and harmful updates, just so that way everything has go through the SCM instead, and as such they get a cut.
Took you this long to figure that out? Been killing the community for years.
Well, you need to also consider this. The "Secondary Market" is also the one thing that in a way is helping to keep the game/trading scene alive.
While yes, people would use the SCM to buy/sell stuff for "Funds", most would still rather sell stuff for cash they can use anywhere else, AND they would rather spend their cash directly for items they wouldn't be able to get off of the SCM since it's not easy to 1-1 trade items with another user if there are other buyers/sellers, the price limit of items, and the SCM has that 7 day hold on bought/sold items (At least for trading) so that also discourages some use of it.
And either way, Valve still makes money to an extent off the secondary market if those items get reinserted back through their market, or are traded for keys, etc. That have to be bought off of the Mann-Co store in the first place (Even though there are enough keys currently that you don't really have to buy off of Mann-Co, and we have Marketplace.tf)
I wouldn't be surprised if they were, but at the same time you need to see that they haven't really tried to stop anything for the past few years with TF2 or CSGO. The most they have done is try to stop Gambling sites due to Laws/Scamming going on.
This madlad, how are you uploading it hasn't been 3 months yet :P
shit something got messed up
Lol he just dun seem interested in TH-cam anymore.Unsubscribed
He’s doing a valve
Great video Ben, always hyped to see you upload a new video, especially these history type videos.
Glad you enjoyed man!
So what you're saying is now is the time to buy buy buy. As someone who doesn't care about getting the most valuable items, (instead I get just what I think is cool,) and making money off this, this is all good news to me, and now I can get cool unusual taunts for relatively low prices. I think part of the reason more unusual have been made is for ( and I know this is gonna sound selfish and self absorbed) average players like me, so we can have them too and not just the super rich traders, as I think the average player, not the trader is the majority of the player base. Hey when you gamble be prepared to lose, so sorry, you get no pity from me for the thousands of $s lost. Benefit of the many (casual players) over the few (traders).
You know you feel sad for that one guy you sold a unu taunt 1 day before that crash
Rip that one guy I sold that taunt to
The unusualifiers are easy to sell for quite a bit on the marketplace.
Thats all valve cares about, is how much money goes through the marketplace. Ive always hated trading with the TF2 community. Every single one ive traded with wants what they ask for "plus extra". Nothing but greedy bois in the trading community. Glad that its dying.
And that is why it is dying
@@kezif still aint ded
Got a Starstorm Slumber Modest offer for my Infernal Flames Balloonibouncer a long time ago... now? Ha.
yeah, time really flies...
Taunts get a depression
Unusuals get a depression
How long until unique weapons become rare
I dont get it
I think the real question was, "Did they ever intend for taunts to be so rare that the whales deemed them too valuable for regular players to have"
even if you unbox an unusual taunt, you still do get a bit of profit since they are worth more than 1 key
God, remember when gold pan's were hard to come by?
Fluid s t o p
they aren'T anymore ?
?
JJack Well I just witnessed two people on a Hightower server. One had a burning team captain and the other had a scorching flames team captain with a golden pan.
This makes me want to buy unusual taunts. But then I remember I cannot even afford the cheapest unusuals :(
they are like 6 dollars
get an unusual deepfried desire on marketplace.tf if you dont have a credit card by a visa giftcard
Im a 10 year old. My birthday is in july and i think i will get kazotsky kick for my birthday in 2021 but not in 2020
@@sweetricecakeman8582 I know this is two years late but did you get it
As an ex-gambling addict in tf2 wasting money upon money with unboxing, this video genuinely gives me the chills.
I haven't played TF2 in years. A lot has changed, it surprised me.
And a lot more unoptimized and new weapons
Elkin Nort Lee How is it Unoptimized???
Shitload of hats and 90% of them are unoptimized, plus those unusual effects and they haven't update their SteamPipe database makes this game runs very poorly on potato PCs
Also the addition of weapon skins and unusual taunts tax it even further whilst also stopped supporting DX8, patching DX9 and overall the game itself, other than some map changes
Yeah, I've noticed TF2 running slower on my mid-tier PC.
3 years ago i can run this at 64 frames, now i barely reached 40
just wait untill he finds out about the 100% unbox
less demand means less price for a product - simple economics
Well, it's been a year. Taunts may have recovered slightly. Now everything else is burning with the summer update accidentally cranking unusual drops.
Valve does, of course, know about the secondary market and the trading community. However, they are more concerned with the actual game and making it fun, because, at the end of the day, that's the point of a game. That does, however, detriment the trading community, which is unfortunate, but, in their eyes, it is much better to have a fun game than to have a good trading community.
why would valve give a shit about your second economy? thats not how capitalism works, just like how YOU will always work for whats best for you at the expense of another, valve did the same, just because they are a company doesnt make it different
And that's why I quit tf2 trading. I got manipulated by experienced traders and my frustration in not succeeding
Anyone that says tf2 trading is profitable is lying. Theres no actual sink for any expensive item and the price for everything is fixed. Only way you go up is by manipulating and sharing people
Only way to ACTUALLY profit is scamming.
how 2 profit: shark and manipulate inexperienced people.
how 2 make a massive profit very quickly: get a minimum wage job or mown a lawn work for like 6 to 8 hours and boom easy 50 keys every day. do that for a month and then you'll have one of the top 100 backpacks.
I remember how I wanted to buy an unusual taunt back when they came out. Luckly I stopped playing before I did that and saved my money.
Amazing job on the video, I'm also glad you're uploading more!
Glad you enjoyed! I'm going to try and keep up semi-weekly content this summer!
When he said "taunt apocalypse" I thought people would keep taunting everywhere lmao
after kill lmao
Casual players really benefitted from this thanks to the lower prices
This video is pretty funny now that the tf2 economy crashed because of the 100% unusual unbox rate for some of the crates.
I remember checking on all the unusual taunts recently and they’re sooooo cheap. I remember when the new taunts like the high five or conga came out was around the time I quit as well. Really interesting to see how it all collapsed
So apparently someone told me valve dont let spells drop on Halloween cause it would ruin the worth of the current ones, but valve ruined unusual taunts, so i dont buy it.
Viralshadow what's a spell
okay tf2 and find out
there are different ones.
@@calvin6235 Ok but seriously what is a spell?
@@whquarters8468 It's like an effect but only works on halloween.
I remember I was playing around 2013/2014 and yet I didn't even know that unusual taunts were around until like 2017.
I love valve’s intro
Traders are like the tf2 version of the wall street wankers and the more they lose the better
"I havent played tf2 in ages"
Steam: LAST PLAYED - a while ago
This video makes me wish that Valve increased the unusual hat chance
don't blame valve for the economy crash blame backpack.tf for allowing bots to help influence prices.
Forgotten Syrup This is it chief
Sometimes I come back to old tf2 videos so I can remind myself about, better, simpler times for my beloved game
They should only drop from Mann Co. Supply Crates.
That is, if Valve would ever do another one ever again.
Exactly.
Amazing video! Love the details and history of tf2 trading!
glad you enjoyed so much!
Your videos make me want to trade, but the low tier market literally wont budge over more than a scraps.
Well Ominous Night and Spooky Night have a lot of taunts at 20-40 keys which is as much as a lot of Mid Tier Unusual hats.
Unusual Taunt: Dab
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dab taunt: immediately kills you after you use it
RYHS
Delet this
Moral of the story, any unusual drop rate change would break the market
8:33 subtitles
Un-pop: I actually really like that menu screen
I remember unboxing a '72 Disco fever and making 100 keys
That's it
Gambler Mccree themed unusual
Isn't 100 keys pretty good?
Gambler Mccree That is the most themed unusual taunt I could imagine.
skill gotten gains buy a life
I was one of those with an unusualifyer, I hedged my bets on applying it for a jury rigged "double down" if you will, and unusual'd a taunt and was lucky to get Showstopper effect (Team coloured fireworks) So there weren't *that* many on the market. The Backpack.tf price was falling faster than the Strange Kritzkreig.
If another one of these updates happen unusual taunt would probably go as low as 4 keys! Atleast thats what I think.
many unusual taunts already go for 4k, some even 3.5
DancingDominatingWizard I’ve gotten a taunt for as low as 4 keys already
As always, great quality. Well done.
Thanks man!
Is 15 keys for a 19.5 a good enough quicksell?
The Dinkster if you are selling, no. Buying, heck yes.
It'd be me buying a cloud 9 fukamigasa for 15 key with it at 19.5
The Dinkster Yeah that's a good deal right there.
Sir, nobody rang you.
The Dinkster depends on the item and if it’s overpriced
"Edgy Sniper Loadout" Has 0 kills on them lol
Me, who don't have a single key worth backpack: "I'm mad."
Me seing people that bougth 100 Keys Unusual Taunts that now are worth 10 keys: "But I ain't stressin'!"
Came back to TF2 yesterday, about 16 months since I’d last played. My reaction to the new menu was exactly the same as the one in the video
I've never been much into tf2 trading, but it sounds to me like you and the rest of the community are just whining that you can't sell your video game pixels for hundreds of dollars. Boo hoo. Valve committed the deadly sin of letting a reasonable portion of their player-base get access to cool items. Those monsters.
Alaric11 "oh no, I'm watching a video about something I don't like and now I'm upset. How could this happen to me?" Also any item worth money is equatable to anything else. Would you heckle the losers in a crashing housing market for "whining that you can't see your pieces of wood and plaster for thousands of dollars. Boo hoo." Money is money, and don't watch videos just to get mad, it's not healthy.
I was curious about the topic so i watched it, then i was let down and disappointing. You seem like a mad person not me, i don't have a dog in the fight. I don't collect tf2 items. So I wouldn't care one way or the other. But if this is representative of the community then I'm glad i never took part in it.
That one humanoid people can actually use a house, a unusual taunt is exactly the same as a regular taunt except sparkly
So they only bought it so they could sell it at a mark up? Am I supposed to feel bad about that? "I artificially made things more expensive for others and now I can't keep scamming everyone". lol bro.
Alaric11 I never said that, dumbass.
Well, I mean, ligma has had a great deal of sway in the tf2 market place
Mission failed, we'll get 'em next time
So can you tell me why I, someone who can't afford to spend 20-200$ on a non-gameplay item in a f2p game that I would like to have and use, why should I care if items in tf2 are becoming cheaper and therefore actually available to me? It seems like you complain about things becoming cheaper only because it effects your and other traders bottomlines by allowing people to get them for cheaper than hundreds of dollars.
Wish I could get a reply from one of these trader channels about this. Hmmmm
+Roland T.H.E. Jabberwocky
guess youre going to keep wishing
Traders and valve: unusual skins, hats, taunts, etc.
me as an intellectual: Unusuals are Unusuals
Please learn how to use "literally"
gognub Dont joke about cancer it aint cool
@@s4lt_n113 well telling a guy to die isn't also a joke.
Meh. When did i tell him to die
Is it really a problem for him to use it figuratively?
People are saying "Literally" when they should be saying "Practically".
It's crazy how fast time flies in tf2 since I don't play it regularly any more, if you asked me before the video about the price of an unusual taunt I would have said they are super expensive, I remember playing on cactus canyon like it was a month ago, while it is out since meet your match in 2016(?)...
Hello:)
I'm an employee at Valve. We're planning to mass release first gen effects the next update by adding a crate with an unusual unbox rate of 4% and making all unusuals unboxed from that crate 1st gen. We think this would be a nice addition and we can't imagine it screwing over traders
For those about to write about this being a bad addition, this comment is a joke and not meant to be taken seriously
HazmatPyro I never could have guessed that was a snarky comment, thanks for telling me
There are some people who don't understand sarcasm and I don't want to start a shitstorm which makes Valve lose money.
HazmatPyro Of Course, we can't forget to specifically increase the drop rate of Burning Flames Team Captains to around 8% to 10%. Everyone wants the opportunity to get this great quality, so why not? It couldn't possibly have any ramifications, especially to any outside markets (but let's be honest, those probably don't exist).
kinda the issue with trading items you technically don't "own", it's not so much a free market as it is a fascist one under the rules of something big, in this case Valve. Can't expect them to do the nice thing here is what I'm saying, and that sucks because lots of people made bank on this.
Now it’s time for the poor man’s unusual.
What the h*ck
Sir this is a Christian server I'm going to have to ask you to leave
Grimcreaper0514 lmao
FourthRain frick
Chen Yee Ren
DIDN'T YOU HEAR?
Plague Bomber sheet sorry i shall not
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So what you're saying is that I can finally afford my dream themed taunts. EXCELLENT
Don't uber heavies as first priority, everyone can just run away before they die to the heavy.
Demo (with a sticky launcher) should be highest priority uber target, then soldier, then the rest with sniper being least priority.
I'll keep that in mind next time. As you probably know I don't play casual TF2 much anymore :P
i would say ubering a heavy comes in handy against sentry guns but you're definitely right about demos being the high priority.
not only can they blow the sentry to pieces but also they can rip the engineer apart before he has a chance to keep his sentry alive for a bit longer, but that doesn't stop the fact that some people would be using the short circuit (even if it is not as effective against sticky spam) or in other rare cases either a pyro or a demoman with either Quickie bomb or Scottish resistance that help the engineer in countering stickies, those are cases where ubering a class like a heavy is a higher priority if you want that sentry nest down.
idk who tf is that part of me that explained this in such detail but whatever xd
X_mezo_X
That's correct, I agree.
Naw, pootis can shred through everything.
TheBlueKnight
In scout's words : "Ya can't hit what ain't there"
Honestly im happy midnight cyclone is at low price cause its my favorite unusual taunt effect
I can’t imagine buying taunts for 100 keys
Even back them
Their just not as good looking as hats and weapons
Worse case is when the volume is muted, then the game runs and unmute and then "TAAH" (valve intro). It happens most of the time
I'm suppressed the economy still survived with the ridiculous overpriced taunts and hats.
His voice just has this up and down up and down thing to it. I honestly love it.
lol shoutout to you for liking it. Most people who notice it cite it as an annoyance.
*sees heavy eating sandvich*
*shoots crossbow at him anyway*
If only they knew this was just a warning before the unusual hat chaos started.
I never realized taunts lowered in price so drastically. I stopped playing once meet your match came out, and didn't return until jungle inferno. I was always so surprised to see other players with so many unusual taunts; I had no idea how they could have afforded so many expensive items... until I realized they weren't expensive anymore
I was pretty upset when I realized unusual taunts weren't anywhere near as expensive as they were before when I unboxed a sunbeams (or whatever the taunt equivalent is) conga taunt and it's worth 27 keys now and i can just imagine how much it would have been worth if the taunt economy didn't get screwed
0:00 the start of this videos implies that he hasn't played TF2 in ages
Great thanks so much for your time and they are you still have the video here it is a thing of the video, and it's fantastic
Years ago, when buds were a thing, I traded from a Blizzard furious Furigasa to a Green Energy drill sergeant and sold everything and left for good and have been pretty glad I did, so I'm not too up to date on the trading scene. But taunts always seemed like a really bad investment to begin with only because they're like spy unusual - you don't see spy unusual as much because they're hiding or disguised. Likewise, you'd only see an unusual taunt in spawn unless it's a moving taunt like the bumpercar or the spy-snake-box.
I’ve been gone from TF2 for a year and this happens
3:03 there was 2 types of unusual hats and melee weapon for demo(forgot the name)
I've literally left trading in this game untouched ever since keys went over 3 ref years ago, but I still watch these videos and find myself entertained and informed.
LOL Almost the exact reaction and time thoughts I had when i just recently got back to TF2 this year! Comedy gold lmao
And boy did I jump on the “I’m poor and want a cheap unusual” train most people were doing when the prices went down.
I remember when I unboxed my unusual conga, it was going on the community market for £260+(~$341/~208 keys)
Now it's only around £21(~$28/~17 keys) based on the tf2 price calculator and community market values
I unboxed a taunt unusualifier on the first night of 2016 Halloween (balloonibouncer) and applied it and ended up selling it for ~250 dollars on marketplace. I was reminiscing a few weeks ago and decided to check how much my same item was going for and was absolutely shocked at the price.
HOLY SHIT THAT'S ME AT 14:06 (My name is Doloquiti and I was playing demo) I NEVER REALIZED THAT WAS THE VIRTUAL ECONOMIST THAT'S SO COOL
And now the process of sifting through all of my prec demo files until I find this clip.
Taunts are going back up in price some are $70
I guess it's nice that you can see more people with unusual taunts now.
If you want an unusual taunt but can’t afford one just get the shred alert because it already looks unusual from the effects.