I think if the Gas passer gets the Recharge of 60 seconds and 750 damage lowered to 45 seconds and 450 damage, that makes it more reliable. I think that also adding in a "firing mode" between the Gasoline Cloud and a Gasoline Bomb(50 damage, grenade AOE, no damage falloff and Gasone Afterburn, is improved by the MVM upgrade) by pressing R when Gas Passer is active could also help this weapon a lot. Plus the mechanics of it, aka "wait X amount of seconds or do Y amounts of damage to recharge this item" can be perfect for other new items or it would have been perfect on the Grenades, mines and other items we could have gotten for the grenade slot from the beta. Speaking of more reliable items, making the SOAS and SVf more reliable would be great. SOAS as another Scout melee that does ranged attacks on alt fire(I think flare gun stats for a firebolt could work, or Detonator without the AOE) plus you could do ignite on hit with any percent of the Meter active, that would immediately make it better and self reliant(10% of the meter for ignite on hit for 4 seconds could work). SVF could also get an alt fire attack like the Dragon's Fury Fireball, this allows for better options. I think a "plus 15% more damage vs burning foes" can also work. for the SOAS and SVf buffs, maybe a "start off empty, but wait 30 seconds or do 300 damage to recharge the meter, plus when meter is empty, hold alt fire to extinguish your allies(and yourself for Scout) for 10% change back" as a upside would make it very good to play with.
@@drivanradosivic1357 idea Give the Gas passer 3 charges that Pyro can store Stats remain the same, but Pyro essentially gets to save three Gas Passers to throw at different areas. You cover a good amount of ground, plus the downtime when you have one fully charged isn't wasted, nor is the damage you do when you don't use it when it's initially charged
1 of 2 things have happened: 1. The community gaslight Eric Smith into believing Gasoline not making people wet wasn't intentional. 2. Eric Smith can only make balance changes if they are bugs, and he gaslight Valve that making gasoline wet was a bug fix. These have interestjng implications for the future of tf2 weapon balance changes or litterally nothing.
so, how do we get a Gas passer like meter(wait X amount of seconds or do Y amount of damage to recharge item) of 30 seconds and 300 damage on the Ullapul caber as a "bug fix" under the excuse that it was half assed changes?
@@tonyf3431 the wiki is community driven though, and they usually list any dumb thing about a weapon in the bugs section, regardless of if it's a bug or not.
@@wingedbluj1674 I'm 90% sure they only listed it in bug fixes so that the community doesn't expect more balance changes in the future (or if you're an optimist, so their first "real" balance change which is surely coming up very soon will generate more hype).
The fact that this is a bug fix is insane to me. 7 years we've had the gas passer in the game, 7 years has it been known as the worst weapon (outside of mvm), and only now is this happening. On another note, the fart joke weapon is now the wet fart joke weapon.
I call the Gas Passer the Gasoline spiller, so for me it was the Arsonist Tool of the Trade that needs a "bug fix" of making the 60 seconds and 750 damage for recharge into 40 seconds and 450 damage to make it much more usable. also getting a Gasoline Cloud and Gasoline(50 damage, no damage falloff, Gasoline Afterburn, grenade AOE) bomb mode by Pressing R when Gas Passer is active as a way to improve it would be great.
I wanna say how that works is that the gas passer ignites if the damage taken code is called. The jumper weapons just happen to make damage taken equal 0, but the code was called, so now they flambe
@@InsertFunnyThingHere yeah but that one didnt really matter. this one is ACTUALLY imactful, and changes how you use two weapons. when i run neon annihilator on wet maps for engie protection, i also run gas now. now you could say impactfulness doesnt matter they are both technically balance changes, but whatever i still dont count iron bomber
@@and_gelitan the mug root beer combo is when you airblast someone into the air, airshot them with the gas passer, wait for them to fall to the ground and take fall damage which ignites them, and then hit them with the axtinguisher I know this is terrible but atleast it's funny
One thing I've noticed about the new combo is that it makes Pyro feel a bit more generalist, for lack of a better term. The combo's fun, and an instant 156 damage is nothing to sneeze at, but in situations where you can't really pull it off, they can still be used to support your team. The Neon Annihilator can be used in a pinch to remove sappers, and even though your mileage may vary, the Gas Passer can be used as a fairly okay area denial tool. It may not deal as much damage as your typical combo Pyro loadout, and it may not be as effective in helping your team/engies as Pybro, but it allows you to dip into both of those areas at the same time. I think that's kinda neat.
All classes have generalist loadouts / weapons you trade their role for either From AoE / burst to pick Pick to AoE Scout has mad milk and bonk Soldier cowmangler and banners Pyro gas passer Demo either ScoRes and Loch n load or demoknight Heavy natasha and lunchbox items Engy has short circuit and gunslinger as well as the pomson Medic has quickfix or vaccinator if you count pocketing as medic's non generalist / 2ndary pick role Sniper has sydney sleeper and jarate Spy has the RTR Most people dont use them because they are SUPPORT or TEAM based weapons. In pubs and outside comp scene give or take group plays with friends people rarely coop. So you either don't take advantage of it 100% or none at all. But in a team effort they all really do have some serious multiplicative buffs from having 2+ people using them. Like mad milk for example obviously keeps you healed and allies as well and helps to pick 1 enemy for health draining with focused fire kills em faster / easier. Quick fix uber helps near insta heal allies. While you cannot waltz into the enemy like the other mediguns having 100%+ (little overheal) health allies means you save a few people from going back to spawn and keeps the momentum going as even 1 50 damage bodyscope sniper or 35 damage melee non backstab spy is damage done to the enemy or a few distractions you didn't have if they were dead and waiting to respawn. Jarate coats enemies with mini crits which even if you get killed allies can take advantage of the more damage done to enemies. Short circuit deletes projectiles where you cannot shoot or melee allies can close the gap with little to no resistance from the enemy Natasha holds enemies in place for allies to swoop in to take em out easier without much moving. Etc. Gas passer is for lighting enemies on fire extinguishing allies the cloud descending helps it linger longer and benefits aiming at the ceiling or walls it can reveal cloaked spies and yes neon combo but more so afterburn does extra damage while also on fire enemies give allies with fire dependant extra damage weapons more damage like flare pyros sun on a stick scouts jarate gives afterburn extra damage etc.
@@-RandomStranger- Man, if only said weapon could linger in place, allowing your team to do the burning for you while you do something other than use the least fun weapon to use in the entire game.
Other advantages to this loadout: -Gas is hard to see through, making it a good smoke grenade -neon annihilator also deals damage to sappers Personally, id take a more pybro approach to this
Ok Fish, this is seriously probably the most gorgeous thumbnail you've made so far. The text, the gas being both in front and behind, the Pyro's pose... Love it!
Now all we need is a primary that instead of shooting fire, it's shooting water, just, very hot water. Then can have a new subclass called, Hydro! (or just the ultimate evolution of the pyroshark)
I remember seeing a video where someone was rocket jumping as Pyro with an enemy Soldier's rockets through Airblast, and what they do is effectively Market Garden WITH the Neon Annihilatior and Gas Passer, throwing the Gas Passer at the target during the descent, then switching to the Annihilator and getting the crit swing before landing. Guess you could call it the Gas Garden? 😂
I think I might start considering using the neon over the homewrecker just because this change gives me a reason to forego a one-tap on sappers and settle with a two-tap.
Yay Pyro has a new combo that rewards him for ambushing players and using his flamethrower. Which is great since he wasn't really encouraged to do this before. (This is satire.)
Slight correction to the "if anyone takes damage your combo's gone" point: if people stay inside the gas cloud, they will get re-soaked and up for another neon crit. Though it's still got the potential to be annoying since observant players will just step out of the gas cloud.
1:50 Mentioned it before, but the Cow Mangler also got its charge shot the ability to destroy Stickybombs in Summer 2019. Apparently it was to fix a bug where Stickybombs became invulnerable when a charge shot hit them.
My opinion on this from trying it myself is that while its nothing super powerful, it gives you a reason to use both the gaspasser and the neon annihilator, the gas passer has come in handy surprisingly often since I began trying it out, and still allows you to pybro, so its not amazing, but it has a cool little generalist niche.
A little thing I can think off for this. Is Medic killing in Community MvM which disable Explode on Ignite. If you don't want to rely on random crit/the mission disables it/you don't want to spend money for crit canteens/Medic not willing to crits you for the Third Degree. You can maybe use the combo to kill Uber Meds? I use this with the Dragon's fury to luckily get the extra damage through any other gassed enemies to recharge the gas Passer faster. Or maybe its just me playing on intermediate. Also: Waiting for the Cloak and Dagger episode part17
playing with this for a while I've learned that gas passer and neon annihilator combo well with degreaser or stock. You're basically playing support pyro, using area denial, taking picks (maybe while making area denial at the same time), and while being a pybro, but not as effective (only due to sappers taking 2 hits). To me I've really enjoyed doing this play style. The fact that I may not have the gas passer charged yet makes me play more carefully/defensively. When your team is pushing, it's great to throw the gas passer onto the enemies who are about to attempt a retreat, or the area they are going to retreat to. It also distorts their vision somewhat when you are doused in the gas from the gas passer, so I give it a thumbs up major buff for both weapons.
Man Pyro just can't catch a break... On a side note, Fish just wanted to say I love your extremely pleasant intro and the music choices you use in your vids.
They should really add a Booties equivalent for Pyroshark. Make it Flippers or a Firefighter helmet. Enemies drop small health kits on kill, small health+speed boost passive, and increased movement speed while under the effects of any status effect
I think if they also added an ignite on hit effect, to where it does 25 damage instantly and 50 if hit by a fire attack, it would both buff the volcano fragment, but also make this combo and the gas passer pretty decent in a way that will be noticeable on it’s own.
0:35 ah yes, the classic "give us money because we put a bunch of colors in the game even tho they are barely visible so we can remove them if we ever need to get money from China" approach
Cause the creator thought it'd be fun to add, like just as a personal touch. The argument goes both ways, that side of the cosmetic is not even visible in game so what's even the issue of having it.
@@perigord6281 Adding a gay /bi flag is not a personal touch, im bi and even i dont like it... If he wanted to add a personal touch he should have added in his signature or some personal symbol or pfp...
So where those PDFile flags snuck in by the creep who made the Engie cosmetic, or did Valve add that in? Cuz that's honestly disgusting, sneaking in your disgusting, predatory ideology into a cosmetic like that.
@@humanbeans4498 I mean I imagine that Valve has to approve the cosmetic and port it into their game, and I assume they would have the tools to edit the 3d models / textures to whatever extent they deem necessary, so there's is a possibility of a sneaky PDFilic dev at Valve who snuck those PDFile flags into the game. Or could be the guy who made the cosmetic as well, some friggin child-pervin' creep that want to hide it's disgusting predatory child-diddling ideology in this game tldr; theres a possibility for either
I think a simple change valve could do to buff this combo (and the gas passer itself) is to make the doused effect continue to be applied even if the enemy is burning. This would make targets be reignited if they extinguish themselves until the gas wears off, and allowing the neon to do multiple hits on the same target. Of course valve wouldn't ever do this, but what-ifs are fun.
The lingering gas actually can still stick to people if they get ignited inside the cloud since the entire cloud doesn't ignite all at once This means if someone chips in on an enemy right in the middle of the gas they'll still be soaked and able to be crit
0:34 I’m pretty sure that engineer cosmetic is a community created cosmetic and the trans and bisexual flags were put there as an easter egg by the creator.
The desk engineer was just one of "those people" trying to hide those flags literally everywhere because they're mad valve won't just add a cosmetic that's just the flags, so they have to try and trick valve to get them to add their "representation"
I think this will ultimately not end up mattering. We’re still talking about Pyro: The Point Blank Specialist. Flare punch already has this rivalled AND it has range. Sure it’s 90 vs 156 the enemy takes damage first anyway. Since flamethrower dps is kinda nutty, that 60 damage is done pretty quickly. It’ll be great for defending sentry nests though.
I always thought it was a bug, since all other throwables that coat an enemy have the same properties, just different effects. All the...substances...leave a dripping animation, extinguish burning teammates, and wash off in water. But the only one that didn't count as "wet" was the gas. Also they broke the throwing animation for pyro, it keeps throwing me OFF, I ALWAYS WAIT FOR THE THROWING TO START AND THEN SWITCH BUT IT ISN'T WORKING!
You want a name for this combo? *_Gas & Zap._* I will take full credit for it btw, thank you. Also petition to have Valve "fix a bug" where the Ambassador's crit damage gets worse at range.
Ah yes, because having someone's perverse crossdressing fantasies shoved down your throat in a cartoony ass game like TF2 is totally what everyone wants to see.
I think a smaller bonus with the buff is the opportunity cost for using gas passer itself going down. There wasn't any real reason to run it before, but if you're taking it anyway to do teehee neon annihilator combos then you have more reason to throw it out as a support tool for your teammates to get a bit extra damage with afterburns, or to combo it into dragons fury and take advantage of its 300% damage boost early if a teammate ignites them for you.
Yeah I found his response to it pretty cringe, critiquing the harmless representation rather than the backlash against it. It's that type of dog whistling that enables some of the gross comments under the video
0:33 You know easter eggs are often hidden right? And last time people were upset about a simple door out of the way so you would think those people would be happy about a easter egg that is hidden but somehow that isn't the case and the same people are mad about it all the same. Hopefully that was just a simple joke about Disney being too scared to have real on screen LGBT+ representation and not a right wing "woke culture" tier thing but what makes me think otherwise is the whole "it's not as hidden as people say it is" thing, like no matter how easy a third party software is, you still have to use a third party software to see a harmless easter egg. But I could be wrong, seeing people constantly getting upset over the smallest trans/LGBT references in this game is so tiring.
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This will surely affect the trout population
Well it’s definitely affecting the shark population.
Well, it will definitely affect the stick population.
trout are now in danger of becoming wet from the gas and thus vulnerable to the annihilator 😔
And strange neon prices
It will definitely affect gas prices
gotta love how the sniper, the long range class, has a better and more reliable melee combo than the pyro, the close range class.
I think if the Gas passer gets the Recharge of 60 seconds and 750 damage lowered to 45 seconds and 450 damage, that makes it more reliable. I think that also adding in a "firing mode" between the Gasoline Cloud and a Gasoline Bomb(50 damage, grenade AOE, no damage falloff and Gasone Afterburn, is improved by the MVM upgrade) by pressing R when Gas Passer is active could also help this weapon a lot. Plus the mechanics of it, aka "wait X amount of seconds or do Y amounts of damage to recharge this item" can be perfect for other new items or it would have been perfect on the Grenades, mines and other items we could have gotten for the grenade slot from the beta.
Speaking of more reliable items, making the SOAS and SVf more reliable would be great. SOAS as another Scout melee that does ranged attacks on alt fire(I think flare gun stats for a firebolt could work, or Detonator without the AOE) plus you could do ignite on hit with any percent of the Meter active, that would immediately make it better and self reliant(10% of the meter for ignite on hit for 4 seconds could work). SVF could also get an alt fire attack like the Dragon's Fury Fireball, this allows for better options. I think a "plus 15% more damage vs burning foes" can also work. for the SOAS and SVf buffs, maybe a "start off empty, but wait 30 seconds or do 300 damage to recharge the meter, plus when meter is empty, hold alt fire to extinguish your allies(and yourself for Scout) for 10% change back" as a upside would make it very good to play with.
Just nerf sniper's hp to 100 and give the ambassador 5% more damage penalty. Sniper fixed.
@@drivanradosivic1357 idea
Give the Gas passer 3 charges that Pyro can store
Stats remain the same, but Pyro essentially gets to save three Gas Passers to throw at different areas.
You cover a good amount of ground, plus the downtime when you have one fully charged isn't wasted, nor is the damage you do when you don't use it when it's initially charged
As a Titan main in Destiny 2 and a strong Pyro fan... It hurts a lot man.
@@archmagemc3561 nerfing the amby more is the real life equilavent of corpse desecration
1 of 2 things have happened:
1. The community gaslight Eric Smith into believing Gasoline not making people wet wasn't intentional.
2. Eric Smith can only make balance changes if they are bugs, and he gaslight Valve that making gasoline wet was a bug fix.
These have interestjng implications for the future of tf2 weapon balance changes or litterally nothing.
Man, I hope Eric will fix a bug where Ulapool caber got nerfed
Gasoline Ignites when exposed to electricity making it a terrible conductor and insulator.
so, how do we get a Gas passer like meter(wait X amount of seconds or do Y amount of damage to recharge item) of 30 seconds and 300 damage on the Ullapul caber as a "bug fix" under the excuse that it was half assed changes?
Hehehe..... GASLIGHT *HEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEH*
@@drivanradosivic1357
Just say it is a bug, like "someone messed with it, but is supposed to be like this"
Who up gassin they passer.
Who up passin gas
Who up annihilating neons
Who annihilating their passers rn?
me❤😍😍😍
Who up annihilating their neon rn?
Me: I sure hope nothing unexpected happens after Fish just made two videos on Neon Annihilator
Valve: pulls out comically large gas passer bug fix
No one believes that's a bug fix
it *was* listed as a bug on the wiki ever since JI
@@tonyf3431 the wiki is community driven though, and they usually list any dumb thing about a weapon in the bugs section, regardless of if it's a bug or not.
@@wingedbluj1674i do
@@wingedbluj1674 I'm 90% sure they only listed it in bug fixes so that the community doesn't expect more balance changes in the future (or if you're an optimist, so their first "real" balance change which is surely coming up very soon will generate more hype).
the pyrosharks have walked onto land, evolution is real ‼️‼️
Sharks with Legs!
Floridian Pyro real! 😮
crocodile pyro
We should call this land shark instead of pyro shark
Pyrogator
I elect that we dub this playstyle “Landsharking” or just call the pyros here landsharks
You have my vote!
Landspark
Exactly what I was thinking
It even fits with the idea that it's a combo you wanna pull off on your own away from your team so they don't steal your kill
Landshart
The fact that this is a bug fix is insane to me. 7 years we've had the gas passer in the game, 7 years has it been known as the worst weapon (outside of mvm), and only now is this happening.
On another note, the fart joke weapon is now the wet fart joke weapon.
I call the Gas Passer the Gasoline spiller, so for me it was the Arsonist Tool of the Trade that needs a "bug fix" of making the 60 seconds and 750 damage for recharge into 40 seconds and 450 damage to make it much more usable.
also getting a Gasoline Cloud and Gasoline(50 damage, no damage falloff, Gasoline Afterburn, grenade AOE) bomb mode by Pressing R when Gas Passer is active as a way to improve it would be great.
Probably an excuse so that the higher-ups actually let it pass into a patch
"that was a creamy one"
I recall the gunslinger's guaranteed third hit crit being removed for a while for being a "bug"
Name: Pyro Mudskipper
(Becauce the mudskipper is a fish with legs who can live out of the water.)
I agree with it
"The Mudskipper"
pyro airboat
Pyro Darwin
just like deepwoken
@@bobHD42bruh
11:09 That was actually a reference to a much better TF2Tuber, StickFishOnAFish.
FYI they don’t even have to take damage to get set on fire by the gas passer. The rocket jumper and sticky jumper also set people on fire.
I wanna say how that works is that the gas passer ignites if the damage taken code is called. The jumper weapons just happen to make damage taken equal 0, but the code was called, so now they flambe
this aligns with the Rocket Jumper resetting the Concheror's regen
@@sheacorduroy5565 wait the jumpers just do damage equal to 0?
@@cyanideytcuriousseadoggocorrect
@@adriannaranjo4397 so that also explains why they reset the conch’s passive healing
This is technically the first balance change we've gotten since 2019.
Iron bomber bug fix?
@@InsertFunnyThingHere yeah but that one didnt really matter. this one is ACTUALLY imactful, and changes how you use two weapons. when i run neon annihilator on wet maps for engie protection, i also run gas now. now you could say impactfulness doesnt matter they are both technically balance changes, but whatever i still dont count iron bomber
What did we get in 2019? I remember Blue Moon update from spring 2018 as being the last update with balance changes
@@michaelstrogoff-1 The cow mangler's charge shot gained the ability to destroy stickies.
the secret airblast change :(
Mug root beer combo?
That's Gas Passer + Axetinguisher
What does that mean
@@wingedbluj1674so would this be the Barq root-beer combo?
Mug moment, we love mugging people
@@and_gelitan the mug root beer combo is when you airblast someone into the air, airshot them with the gas passer, wait for them to fall to the ground and take fall damage which ignites them, and then hit them with the axtinguisher
I know this is terrible but atleast it's funny
Pyroshark evolution arc
Nice pfp bro
Oh God they've grown legs
@@mikelawrence6419 isn't this a horror manga premise
@@whoisanarnba junji ito one i think
Hope this combo is named: "Fart & spark"
Yes. Seconded.
Yes. Thirded.
Shart spark?
It will never be named that you fucking dumb ass. Hahaha (: I'm just kidding! I'm 4 years old and I think farts and poo poo are funny! (:
NO@@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo
One thing I've noticed about the new combo is that it makes Pyro feel a bit more generalist, for lack of a better term. The combo's fun, and an instant 156 damage is nothing to sneeze at, but in situations where you can't really pull it off, they can still be used to support your team. The Neon Annihilator can be used in a pinch to remove sappers, and even though your mileage may vary, the Gas Passer can be used as a fairly okay area denial tool.
It may not deal as much damage as your typical combo Pyro loadout, and it may not be as effective in helping your team/engies as Pybro, but it allows you to dip into both of those areas at the same time. I think that's kinda neat.
All classes have generalist loadouts / weapons you trade their role for either
From AoE / burst to pick
Pick to AoE
Scout has mad milk and bonk
Soldier cowmangler and banners
Pyro gas passer
Demo either ScoRes and Loch n load or demoknight
Heavy natasha and lunchbox items
Engy has short circuit and gunslinger as well as the pomson
Medic has quickfix or vaccinator if you count pocketing as medic's non generalist / 2ndary pick role
Sniper has sydney sleeper and jarate
Spy has the RTR
Most people dont use them because they are SUPPORT or TEAM based weapons. In pubs and outside comp scene give or take group plays with friends people rarely coop. So you either don't take advantage of it 100% or none at all. But in a team effort they all really do have some serious multiplicative buffs from having 2+ people using them.
Like mad milk for example obviously keeps you healed and allies as well and helps to pick 1 enemy for health draining with focused fire kills em faster / easier.
Quick fix uber helps near insta heal allies. While you cannot waltz into the enemy like the other mediguns having 100%+ (little overheal) health allies means you save a few people from going back to spawn and keeps the momentum going as even 1 50 damage bodyscope sniper or 35 damage melee non backstab spy is damage done to the enemy or a few distractions you didn't have if they were dead and waiting to respawn.
Jarate coats enemies with mini crits which even if you get killed allies can take advantage of the more damage done to enemies.
Short circuit deletes projectiles where you cannot shoot or melee allies can close the gap with little to no resistance from the enemy
Natasha holds enemies in place for allies to swoop in to take em out easier without much moving.
Etc.
Gas passer is for lighting enemies on fire extinguishing allies the cloud descending helps it linger longer and benefits aiming at the ceiling or walls it can reveal cloaked spies and yes neon combo but more so afterburn does extra damage while also on fire enemies give allies with fire dependant extra damage weapons more damage like flare pyros sun on a stick scouts jarate gives afterburn extra damage etc.
@@doctorofallrats hybrid monkey pyro?
Man, if only pyro had another better weapon with splash damage that gave you 10 seconds of afterburn on hit
@@-RandomStranger- man, if only said weapon didn't make me want to fucking blow my brains out
@@-RandomStranger- Man, if only said weapon could linger in place, allowing your team to do the burning for you while you do something other than use the least fun weapon to use in the entire game.
Other advantages to this loadout:
-Gas is hard to see through, making it a good smoke grenade
-neon annihilator also deals damage to sappers
Personally, id take a more pybro approach to this
it also kind of works as a good area denial tool if you throw it into a choke
fire is also hard to see through
Fish stick on a stick was so tired that he forgot atom smash also has water. Baha waba!
He is so in trouble now!!! YAHA HAHA
Ok Fish, this is seriously probably the most gorgeous thumbnail you've made so far. The text, the gas being both in front and behind, the Pyro's pose... Love it!
Now all we need is a primary that instead of shooting fire, it's shooting water, just, very hot water.
Then can have a new subclass called, Hydro! (or just the ultimate evolution of the pyroshark)
New Pyro primary: it's just a MannCo pressure washer.
I feel like that would kinda take away from the Gas Passer again.
No we don't.
What we *_NEED_* is for Valve to "fix the bug" that makes the Gas Passer take forever to recharge on its own.
Instead of puff and sting we got splash and bash? But that's already Axtinguisher's job :(
I’ve been thinking about that for a while, some sort of boiler
I remember seeing a video where someone was rocket jumping as Pyro with an enemy Soldier's rockets through Airblast, and what they do is effectively Market Garden WITH the Neon Annihilatior and Gas Passer, throwing the Gas Passer at the target during the descent, then switching to the Annihilator and getting the crit swing before landing.
Guess you could call it the Gas Garden? 😂
We call it Crop Dusting.
2:48 No God, above or below, could make me willingy post a video where I miss three melees in a row on a medic
and now the 20% damage voulnerability is listed in the buffalo steak stats
Never thought I’d live to see the day a Bad Weapon Academy episode becomes outdated.
not outdated just slightly outdated, the gas passer still has the same problems without the neon annihilator
8:40 saying pyro will die to afterburn is like saying the scout will die from diabetes
Have you seen how much soda the guy drinks? Its more likely than you think.
@@vorpalweapon4814Also the obscene amount of radiation. No idea how Bonk Drinker doesn’t have cancer in every section of his body
shriveling up like a worm on a hot paving stone after being reminded that jungle inferno was 7 years ago
The gas passer and neon combo being worthless fits in line with the usual reputation of the gas passer and neon annihilator.
I think I might start considering using the neon over the homewrecker just because this change gives me a reason to forego a one-tap on sappers and settle with a two-tap.
Yay Pyro has a new combo that rewards him for ambushing players and using his flamethrower. Which is great since he wasn't really encouraged to do this before.
(This is satire.)
Agreed, the flamethrower can still kill anyone that this could too and probably just as fast. Flare guns still beating this handedly
Still mad they made pyro's flamethrower a glorified combo starter.
Pyro Shart lol
Slight correction to the "if anyone takes damage your combo's gone" point: if people stay inside the gas cloud, they will get re-soaked and up for another neon crit. Though it's still got the potential to be annoying since observant players will just step out of the gas cloud.
So, what happens when the afterburn does damage to the people in the cloud?
@@BlazingShadowSword you still crit them
Sorry, fish stick. Noble Pyro is NOT catching on. It’s gonna be land shark for eternity
I like to call it crocodile pyro, it can ambush you in water and outside of it, an evolution of the shark pyro
1:50 Mentioned it before, but the Cow Mangler also got its charge shot the ability to destroy Stickybombs in Summer 2019.
Apparently it was to fix a bug where Stickybombs became invulnerable when a charge shot hit them.
Brap Pyro is now real. Pyrocynical is going insane.
Cow mangler's charged shot was allowed to destroy enemy sticky bombs after Blue Moon
I feel like this’ll end up being a meme combo.
Land shark the subclass is called Land shark.
"Congratulations! Your PYRO SHARK evolved into a PYRO GARCHOMP!"
0:32
Not anymore, his Texan powers undid that continuity error.
Thank you for this good news
No one talks about the small buff the Gunslinger got for it's crit combo
NeGa Pyro is truly a fire title worthy of this secret combo!
My opinion on this from trying it myself is that while its nothing super powerful, it gives you a reason to use both the gaspasser and the neon annihilator, the gas passer has come in handy surprisingly often since I began trying it out, and still allows you to pybro, so its not amazing, but it has a cool little generalist niche.
Call it the Landshark combo.
Cause who doesn't love a cute landshark?
A little thing I can think off for this. Is Medic killing in Community MvM which disable Explode on Ignite. If you don't want to rely on random crit/the mission disables it/you don't want to spend money for crit canteens/Medic not willing to crits you for the Third Degree. You can maybe use the combo to kill Uber Meds? I use this with the Dragon's fury to luckily get the extra damage through any other gassed enemies to recharge the gas Passer faster. Or maybe its just me playing on intermediate.
Also: Waiting for the Cloak and Dagger episode part17
did not expect the Spelunky OST in this video, huge nostalgia hit for me personally
Finally, I can play Pyroshark on dustbowl
Props to the guy who gas lit the devs into thinking the Gas Passer Doesn’t count people as wet as a “bug”
Fire + air + water= the avatar
I mean, Pyro with a flamethrower, a shotgun and the neon annihilator is basically the Avatar. Master of all four elements.
playing with this for a while I've learned that gas passer and neon annihilator combo well with degreaser or stock. You're basically playing support pyro, using area denial, taking picks (maybe while making area denial at the same time), and while being a pybro, but not as effective (only due to sappers taking 2 hits). To me I've really enjoyed doing this play style. The fact that I may not have the gas passer charged yet makes me play more carefully/defensively. When your team is pushing, it's great to throw the gas passer onto the enemies who are about to attempt a retreat, or the area they are going to retreat to. It also distorts their vision somewhat when you are doused in the gas from the gas passer, so I give it a thumbs up major buff for both weapons.
Gas passer moved from F- tier to D- Tier
And Neon annihilator moved from c tier to B- tier
I’d give gas passer D or D+ for funny factor honestly
pyro should start life with a full gasspasser and recharge in 20 seconds like jarate
This is why we need a pyro that just shoots a high pressure hose instead of a flame thrower
What the rain blower could’ve been
Man Pyro just can't catch a break...
On a side note, Fish just wanted to say I love your extremely pleasant intro and the music choices you use in your vids.
3:03
I loved it when the pyro said "Its Gassin time!" And passed gas all over the place 🙏
“Med’s gassy! Med’s gassy!”
They should really add a Booties equivalent for Pyroshark. Make it Flippers or a Firefighter helmet.
Enemies drop small health kits on kill, small health+speed boost passive, and increased movement speed while under the effects of any status effect
I officially dub this combo "the fart pyro"
*in tts voice* FaRT bLasT
I think if they also added an ignite on hit effect, to where it does 25 damage instantly and 50 if hit by a fire attack, it would both buff the volcano fragment, but also make this combo and the gas passer pretty decent in a way that will be noticeable on it’s own.
WE ARE GETING OUT OF THE WATER WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️💦💦💦💦⛽
0:35 ah yes, the classic "give us money because we put a bunch of colors in the game even tho they are barely visible so we can remove them if we ever need to get money from China" approach
Valve didnt do that
Nah this is was done by the twitterite who made the cosmetic
0:24 so the update was community made maps like the Left 4 Dead 2 update? So the official new content is still dried up then?
The Spelunky background music is awesome. Haven't thought of that game in a long time.
0:33 bruh why even add that in?
To get people talking and give it more attention. It’s weird af
It's so unnecessary because that trash is everywhere
@@humanbeans4498have you ever tried going outside
Cause the creator thought it'd be fun to add, like just as a personal touch. The argument goes both ways, that side of the cosmetic is not even visible in game so what's even the issue of having it.
@@perigord6281 Adding a gay /bi flag is not a personal touch, im bi and even i dont like it... If he wanted to add a personal touch he should have added in his signature or some personal symbol or pfp...
I love the neon annihilator, but sadly the gas passer is still the gas passer
fart cloud in thumbnail
This was quite literally what the Gas Passer needed
The thumbnail got me thinking I had a fart fetish video in my recommended for a split second.
The "gas station combo" or "radiator springs combo" because gas and neon signs
So where those PDFile flags snuck in by the creep who made the Engie cosmetic, or did Valve add that in? Cuz that's honestly disgusting, sneaking in your disgusting, predatory ideology into a cosmetic like that.
Probably the person who made it, valve hasn't really touched tf2 at all
@@humanbeans4498 I mean I imagine that Valve has to approve the cosmetic and port it into their game, and I assume they would have the tools to edit the 3d models / textures to whatever extent they deem necessary, so there's is a possibility of a sneaky PDFilic dev at Valve who snuck those PDFile flags into the game.
Or could be the guy who made the cosmetic as well, some friggin child-pervin' creep that want to hide it's disgusting predatory child-diddling ideology in this game
tldr; theres a possibility for either
I think a simple change valve could do to buff this combo (and the gas passer itself) is to make the doused effect continue to be applied even if the enemy is burning. This would make targets be reignited if they extinguish themselves until the gas wears off, and allowing the neon to do multiple hits on the same target. Of course valve wouldn't ever do this, but what-ifs are fun.
The lingering gas actually can still stick to people if they get ignited inside the cloud since the entire cloud doesn't ignite all at once
This means if someone chips in on an enemy right in the middle of the gas they'll still be soaked and able to be crit
NeGa pyro is crazyyy
For real i want so bad that name let him cook🔥
Good news: gas passer is buffed
Bad news: neon anihilator is even more op
0:34 dude don’t overthink it, it’s just a neat easter egg
Nah, dudes a fucking loser for hiding shit like that.
@@CarlosSoto-jy1xw He's a fucking groomer creep for adding that shit in the first place is what he is
Wow I have never been this early before, but I have been excitedly waiting for you to talk about this!
0:34 I’m pretty sure that engineer cosmetic is a community created cosmetic and the trans and bisexual flags were put there as an easter egg by the creator.
pyroshark has legs now
wonders of evolution
The desk engineer was just one of "those people" trying to hide those flags literally everywhere because they're mad valve won't just add a cosmetic that's just the flags, so they have to try and trick valve to get them to add their "representation"
stop using quotations and at least be honest about your dehumanizing hate
@@KatlynAG or what? I'll add quotations "wherever I want"
@@KatlynAG and if I'm wrong, prove it
I think this will ultimately not end up mattering. We’re still talking about Pyro: The Point Blank Specialist. Flare punch already has this rivalled AND it has range. Sure it’s 90 vs 156 the enemy takes damage first anyway. Since flamethrower dps is kinda nutty, that 60 damage is done pretty quickly.
It’ll be great for defending sentry nests though.
It's useless! 🎉🎉🎉
I always thought it was a bug, since all other throwables that coat an enemy have the same properties, just different effects.
All the...substances...leave a dripping animation, extinguish burning teammates, and wash off in water. But the only one that didn't count as "wet" was the gas.
Also they broke the throwing animation for pyro, it keeps throwing me OFF, I ALWAYS WAIT FOR THE THROWING TO START AND THEN SWITCH BUT IT ISN'T WORKING!
You want a name for this combo? *_Gas & Zap._* I will take full credit for it btw, thank you.
Also petition to have Valve "fix a bug" where the Ambassador's crit damage gets worse at range.
I, too, am a fan of the individual who’s main characteristics being that of handiling flames’s new combination of objects used for combat. 🎩
0:36 literally just to piss off people that get mad about that stuff
If that's the case, seeing some of the comments, it worked perfectly.
Totally not because it's their entire personality... just like you, based on your pfp
So your personality is... a picture of beans?
Baw ywn
Ah yes, because having someone's perverse crossdressing fantasies shoved down your throat in a cartoony ass game like TF2 is totally what everyone wants to see.
Behold,
Go go gadget pocket pyro-pirahna.
Pyro Piranha sounds neat, not gonna lie
Yea, I don't want to see the flags.
Puff and sting's cousin, the fart and shart
0:40 - the answer is narcissism
Modern TF2 is made up of 50% narcissist degenerates of various persuasions, 50% racists and 100% retards.
the answer is its a silly easter egg that people want to get mad at because they hate people existing
@@KatlynAG nah it's narcissism the guy just wanted good boy points for being "le inclusive" stop being so twittarded
I think a smaller bonus with the buff is the opportunity cost for using gas passer itself going down. There wasn't any real reason to run it before, but if you're taking it anyway to do teehee neon annihilator combos then you have more reason to throw it out as a support tool for your teammates to get a bit extra damage with afterburns, or to combo it into dragons fury and take advantage of its 300% damage boost early if a teammate ignites them for you.
0:40 it’s called an easter egg
Garbage would be a better word
@@bananashoplifter3440why?
Spelunky HD ost? Lets fucking go
ewwww didnt knew they added that engineer cosmetic with child didler flags in it
transphobic bigot, hope you have fun being this miserable
Fym "child diddler flags"
The combo is named the Brap N’ Zap!!!
The engie flags are just a fun little Easter egg
Ah yes, forcing the artist's sexual perversions down people's throats is a "fun little easter egg"...
Yeah I found his response to it pretty cringe, critiquing the harmless representation rather than the backlash against it.
It's that type of dog whistling that enables some of the gross comments under the video
@@leonli844 It isn't "harmless representation", it's one-sided political pandering that has no place in a game like TF2.
@@numbersstationsarchive194 chat, is it political pandering to recognize marginalized groups?
@@Noobwater Yes, it is, and transsexuals are hardly a "marginalized group" in the West lmao
The Gas Annihilator combo is the most fun I've had with Pyro since ever.
0:33 You know easter eggs are often hidden right? And last time people were upset about a simple door out of the way so you would think those people would be happy about a easter egg that is hidden but somehow that isn't the case and the same people are mad about it all the same.
Hopefully that was just a simple joke about Disney being too scared to have real on screen LGBT+ representation and not a right wing "woke culture" tier thing but what makes me think otherwise is the whole "it's not as hidden as people say it is" thing, like no matter how easy a third party software is, you still have to use a third party software to see a harmless easter egg. But I could be wrong, seeing people constantly getting upset over the smallest trans/LGBT references in this game is so tiring.
People get tired of it because there is literally no conceivable reason to add this kind of bullshit political pandering to media.
They should give the neon annihilator bleed damage to make this better
0:52 disable decals go brr
Some typed in chat, “I didn’t know the gas passer counts as being wet now” I did not believe them