Hell yes, boys! Wish me luck tomorrow. I've got to get the results of a biopsy I had on a suspicious tumor they think is cancer. I turn 39 tomorrow. Love you boys! Win lose or draw I'll be here every week.
Positive vibrations, my fellow WWE lover. Had a similar situation at 26 years of age, and I turn 41 next month. Your story has many chapters left to be told!
Josh, I appreciate your channel. I am 49 and roughly 80 percent paralyzed due to multiple sclerosis. I can use my left hand and move my head and still talk. I have always loved history. I spend the majority of my time watching history documentaries and listening to your channel and a couple more. I just wanted to tell you thanks for the information it definitely helps pass the time.
I'm 49 as well. 1974. I have several injuries that made me stop being a mechanic and work in the parts department but nothing near what you have. History is awesome and I don't understand it when people say they don't like it. They are the ones who have something wrong with them! Just wanted to drop a line my friend. Hope you have a great day and many more to come.
Try I ver mec ton, or fenbinzadal those are anti perisitic drugs,but some researchers say they will help, I read some researchers think others researchers are clueless about what causes multiple sclerosis. Get at veterinarian 2cc every 2 weeks. I started taking mecton during covid, my skin cancer is going away. There was a man some years ago in Oklahoma that had terminal lung cancer, doctors said nothing more they could do, his vet friend gave him fenbinzadal and a list of vitamins and canibis oil,cancer free in a few months. It's on the internet if you search.
Blessings friend I hope you re not in too much pain. Ìt cannot be easy as I knew MS.people&a distant relative. All I can say is go day to day&know there s still a God&Whose Son did bleed for us all. I'm Canadian but a greater fan of US. old west&Civil War history. Take care. DrBob age74
Same applies here m8_meaning that I would love to come to your side of the world!! "Stories"? I presume you mean history? Lol. Well I have them too. I was an archæological site supervisor,on Anglesey/Ynys Môn, & Gwynedd (the county unit),for about 10 years. So when I say the "druid isle" I mean it & know it! Village I live in is place where Romans crossed onto the island to finish off the druids! It's in TACITUS ' book the AGRICOLA. ?? DRUIDS dressed in white & invocating,long haired women ,dressed in black,running about with flaming torches,&c. I'm 500 yards from fields Romans & Celts had their battle. I surveyed & field walked them as part of my job. LONG ARMY FIELD & FIELD OF BITTER TEARS,are English translation of names they're still called! (I won't give you the Welsh lol. Enough to say Wales or Wild West...I don't care! I just love history! ALL OF IT!!
It is pronounce 'Cib bea cue' I taught school on the White Mtn Apacke Rez for many years. Btw- I greatly enjoy your podcasts. You do a wonderful job and are a wonderful communicator. Thank You!
Enjoyed the story as always. And because of the last one I watched Lonesome Dove for the first time in my life! For some reason I always thought it was a love story and refused to watch it. It was pretty good. I must say I enjoyed it and once I started watching it was hard to stop. Went to work a couple days with only half the usual sleep from staying up watching it. Thanks for the recommendation
@@mikeperry7335 long story short, it’s about two aging former Texas Rangers who decide to drive a herd of cattle from Texas to Montana. Hart isn’t in it, though, he was just in the series that followed (which isn’t really officially part of the actual story)
@@mikeperry7335 I always thought that too but it's actually a pretty damn good western. There's a couple I don't know how to put it but women that some of the guys love that's in the story but even that wasn't bad. I was kinda surprised that some of it was played on TV back then. I don't want to say too much and ruin anything for you but check it out, I bet you would like it
I had to pause this abot 1/2 way throgh. You mentioned Gen. Crook . He had a doctor named Porter w/ him. This same doc. was with Reno at the greasy grass . He , this gets very deep very fast . Doc Porter said Custer shot himself with a .41 colt double action . He doug the bullet out of the back of his head. Colt sent three of these revolers to the 7th , Long Hair had one , the gen in charge ft the whole campain had one and the doc had the third one . The doc put the bullet from long hairs head in the muzzel of his revolver , it fit and had the same pointed shape . long hair had been shot throuth the shoulder but in his view it would not have been fatal unless it got infected. Dr. Porter was the doc at the birth of this man . Doc told him not to say anything about this untill Mrs. Custer died . The clues here , 1878 colt the .41 cal and the doc was a man well known by the army. He was with reno ! N. Dakota doc. maybe south. I am old now . Thes clues may lead you to a very good story. Thanks for your work . And , Hoka Hay !!
There was a story Custer carried a double action British Bulldog " type" pattern revolver. So it is very possible he carried this experimental type revolver from Colt. Since Dr Porter was a very honest person, I believe Custer did shoot himself not wanting g to be taken alive and wounded by the hostile. The British Bulldog type double action was mistaken as the Colt was an experimental prototype from that pistol.
@@tbcoachniblick1208 The revolver was model 1878 i think , there was a 38 and a 41 cal. lightning ? and thunderer . billy the kid had one . i know not witch. It was enemac as the bullet did not exit , but left a bump on the other side of his head , this the Doc. , , excavated ? I believe this story to be true . Doc. Porter delivered the man that brought forth this story. i can not recall his name . this from about 60 yr,s ago. Happy trails . Gary
When I lived in Cheyenne, WY., the people who I talked to who knew of Tom Horn and his life overwhelmingly believe that Tom Horn was innocent of the murder he was hanged for. I do, too.
@@charlesfaure1189I'm still at the beginning of the video, but just because someone's killed before, doesn't automatically mean they're guilty of another murder they're accused of.
Tom Horn is someone I haven't heard a whole lot about compared to the likes of Billy the Kid and Jim Bridger. When you said at the beginning that Tom's dog was killed, I thought he was going to go all John Wick on us. Speaking of dogs, I just finished a write-up on the Conner-Low-Smith Feud of Sabine County, Texas. There was a battle with the Texas Rangers in which the Conners defeated them using their hunting dogs. The State of Texas brought their own trail dogs in from Huntsville Prison to hunt them down but were unsuccessful in the big thickets of East Texas.
🎉Do a video on Jim Thorpe, the native American who won the pentathlon and decathlon in Stockholm during the 1912 Summer Olympics. Two gold medals. Thorpe played professional baseball and professional football.
Hell yes Josh remember asking ya to do this one while back or in the bloody beaver days thanks man I watched it last night was good can't wait for the rest keep it up buddy 👍
Whin I lived in Albany County Wyoming. There was the remains of an old stage stop. In what wad left of the rafters someone had carved ( Tom Horn 1900 . I say this because I was not there whin it was carved. But the aging of the wood, it was not new. A friend of mine said he knew of a line shack east of Bosler that a similar carving said Horn was in Wyoming as early as 1898
Yo Josh, another great episode bruh! Yes, you pronounced both ways to say Mogollon correctly, and of course got 'Prezcit' right. That being said, I've only heard Cibeque pronounced 3 different ways here. These are see/bee/queue... sih/bih/queue... and see/bih/queue. Cheers man and can't wait for next week.
This is very well done. It was clearly evident as I listened to the story, that somebody did their research thoroughly. And finding info on specific events more than 100 years old is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. But the details you brought to this story showed me you didn't find all the needles, but found plenty of them. That info rounded your tale out nicely. Yes, this is a nice tight package and is interesting to listen too.
If anyone finds this interesting, you should read the book 'The Apache Wars: The Hunt for Geronimo, the Apache Kid, and the Captive Boy Who Started the Longest War in American History'. Very indepth history of the conflict and many of characters that played a role
Just another Outstanding piece. You definitely have found your calling my Friend. As an old Marine... I'd damned sure love you to do some military stuff...when you're outta the West. You are a Fantastic Storyteller Sir. Killing it. SF
If Tom Horn’s middle initial was H, it’s possible he was named for his father’s father, Hartman Horn. Also, Tom sometimes used the aliases Tom Hale and Tom Hicks, so these could also be clues.
Really interesting episode, he's one person that I haven't really read up on a whole lot. Currently reading Dark Angel of Texas by Leon Mertz suggested to me by you after I watched your John Wesley Hardin series. Haven't gotten that far into it yet but really enjoying it so far.
Some very good content Josh. For Horn's middle name, i offer up Horse-shit. As half of everything out of his mouth was a crock, i think it's fitting. I'm looking forward to hear about Tom's trip up to Buffalo and his association with the Regulators. Best Wishes to You, Your Family and Friends.
Your videos are amazing bro. Well researched and entertaining. You finally convinced me brushy bill was not billy the kid and I have been a fan since bloody Beaver. You should do an over view of the magnificent seven remake with Denzel. Id love to hear your opinion on the character depictions , who they we're in the movie based on on who they actually were in real life there lives and background and how well or bad did the movie depict these characters like tom horn, and goodnight. How realistic is the storyline, was it based on something similar. Something like that. Either way love this vid all your work and cant wait for future vids but for real a magnificent 7 video would be sick and would love to hear your take and research on the subject.
Man, great episode as always. Fav podcast by far. Dude, u should do a colab with Warhawk.he made a great series on Texas war of independence. I like to picture you as yo samity sam with a hat and red stash infront of the microphone spitting hot fire. On a real note, hope you and yours are bleesed brother. Keep up the great work.
As always , nice job Josh... Now this Al Seaver guy when he was wondering around Virginia Maryland and Pennsylvania , was he wearing the blue or the Grey ? 🤔 And I think Antietam is pronounced "Sharpsburg" 😉 😊 ✌️
If you read the biographys of General Crook, Lieutenant Gatewood and Al Sieber, you’ll get a pretty good idea of the Apache wars down here and what went on. Horn is never mentioned in any prominent way. Sounds like he had a pretty high opinion of himself in regards to his part in the Apache wars, but no one else did. Good roper though, he won the steer roping at Cheyenne.
I never understood why they didn't just kill him. He was only one man. As soon as they saw him, he was there to kill someone. As for stealing cows, it looks like both sides, the poor and the rich were both stealing cows. That is why no one wanted barb wire, from what I have read.
@@WildWestExtravaganza I understand the immigrants, who couldn't swim or own firearms. But some of the people who fought the Indians and bandits, I don't see why they didn't just light him up. Kind of like Deacon Jim, they took him from jail and hanged him. The only card I can see he had to play was telling who his employers were. Most places you are just as guilty for hiring a murder as doing it. Some states, you rob a gas station, and it goes bad, some gets killed, you are guilty just for being with them. I do think that was part of Horn's problem, you are looking after the Johnson Co. Cattle war and what a nightmare that ended in. I believe the big ranchers may have set him up on this killing and sacrificed to cool every bodies jets. It is just a thought.
I used to think Tom Horn was a pretty cool character but history tells another story. That of a psychopath and a habitual liar. Probably created by his parents. He murdered several innocent men in cold blood, preferring to shoot from cover when the victims weren't expecting it.
BTW, Cibeque is pronounced "C.B.Q." As an Alaskan Native artist, I attended Native Art School in Santa Fe, NM, 97-99 and I had two fellow students that are White Mountain Apache and we laughed at being long-lost cousins (we share the same language, but I dropped my understanding and accent in 3rd Grade in Tacoma, WA), but mispronunciation of their names is a kind of cultural insult (I can put you in touch with at least one of them if interested.), for reference, it would be like hearing someone pronounce Lincoln as "Link Colon", or Washington as "Washing-A-Tons....of clothes, I guess", Ted Roosevelt as "Tied-Door Rose-sea-felt" or even Thomas Jefferson as "Tomb...Toes....Two-mace Jeff's-a-sin". At first, it's heard in light humor, but by the tenth time hearing mispronunciation is annoying and after three sessions of putting everything else aside to focus on simple, accurate pronunciation the eleventh time is noted as an insult that makes the next episode avoided.
you say he is exaggerating about his achievements. Maybe he is. Maybe it is just the way how he remembers. Or...there is a saying: It looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it is a duck. Maybe as packer Horn was thinking he was doing the same thing all the fine people are doing. So he saw himself as one of them and not just as a packer. As you at the end say when talking about his deadliness you say that he was send to check for farms and send on patrol. Hard to say someone is just a packer when sending on patrol where he had real shootouts and not just the chance to get shot at. Meaning from his point he does all what the scouts does. So he is a scout. Just under another name. And as he later becomes a scout all this becomes maybe blurry in his memory. He was doing scout work so to him in his memory he probably also was already a scout. I doubt he wrote a resume and kept it updated to send it in with new employers. Who knows what really happened. And who knows if he was a boaster. It's just that these wrong statements could also be honest statements. And cool vid. Love your vids. The way you tell the stories you bring life to them.
You said the battle of “big dry wash” (I think it was called) was the last Apache battle to happen on U.S. soil. Honest question, was there Apache battles elsewhere? Great topic, bye the way, separated from Hollywood, just the truth. .
Al Siber was an interesting character.. Josh have you ever done a pod cast on him..? I really do get a kick out of your view of history... Good on ya..!
In Arizona we pronounce Cibecue Sib-a-cue, your Cibecue Creek was a little painful, good job with Mogollon. Great job altogether I mean, you probably won't have to say Cibecue again anyway.
There is a man and a channel 31:09 named Brett Hall and I think you would find his videos on bill very interesting. A sit down interview between you two and your opinions on the kid would be very interesting inciteful and entertaining in my opinion
Hell yes, boys! Wish me luck tomorrow. I've got to get the results of a biopsy I had on a suspicious tumor they think is cancer. I turn 39 tomorrow. Love you boys! Win lose or draw I'll be here every week.
Chin up
You got this mate! Kick names and take ass!
👊🏼💥💯
Positive vibrations, my fellow WWE lover. Had a similar situation at 26 years of age, and I turn 41 next month. Your story has many chapters left to be told!
Wishing you only the best, Dale
Josh, I appreciate your channel. I am 49 and roughly 80 percent paralyzed due to multiple sclerosis. I can use my left hand and move my head and still talk. I have always loved history. I spend the majority of my time watching history documentaries and listening to your channel and a couple more. I just wanted to tell you thanks for the information it definitely helps pass the time.
Wow, thank you. I’m glad you’re liking it.
I'm 49 as well. 1974. I have several injuries that made me stop being a mechanic and work in the parts department but nothing near what you have. History is awesome and I don't understand it when people say they don't like it. They are the ones who have something wrong with them! Just wanted to drop a line my friend. Hope you have a great day and many more to come.
Try I ver mec ton, or fenbinzadal those are anti perisitic drugs,but some researchers say they will help, I read some researchers think others researchers are clueless about what causes multiple sclerosis. Get at veterinarian 2cc every 2 weeks. I started taking mecton during covid, my skin cancer is going away. There was a man some years ago in Oklahoma that had terminal lung cancer, doctors said nothing more they could do, his vet friend gave him fenbinzadal and a list of vitamins and canibis oil,cancer free in a few months. It's on the internet if you search.
Blessings friend I hope you re not in too much pain.
Ìt cannot be easy as I knew MS.people&a distant relative.
All I can say is go day to day&know there s still a God&Whose Son did bleed for us all.
I'm Canadian but a greater fan of US. old west&Civil War history.
Take care.
DrBob age74
same here buddy although I broke my neck ,history and my iPad are the only things that keep me going.
The Apache were at war with everyone. Even themselves.
Some of us die heros. And some of us live long enough to be come outlaws.
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317Not for long. Biden's time is almost up.
Troll alert. Trumpite.🤮🤑👽@@cannowuppass8214
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Ty 4 that
Agree 100%
@@cannowuppass8214 😂🤣😅🥲 That was fucking great, I loved that comment!!!!
They found cancer in my colon @ 51 I'm now 63. It's all about them who love you. Good Luck Buddy!
Middle of the night ,Druid Isle of Anglesey, North Wales. Discovered this & it's FUKKEN BRILLIANT!!! & I'll be back!
Hello North Wales
Hello m8(Bore da). Great work! Topman youself!!
Hi welcome
I'd love ta visit your. Country but will never be able to
But I'd love ta know your stories also
Same applies here m8_meaning that I would love to come to your side of the world!! "Stories"? I presume you mean history? Lol. Well I have them too. I was an archæological site supervisor,on Anglesey/Ynys Môn, & Gwynedd (the county unit),for about 10 years. So when I say the "druid isle" I mean it & know it! Village I live in is place where Romans crossed onto the island to finish off the druids! It's in TACITUS ' book the AGRICOLA. ?? DRUIDS dressed in white & invocating,long haired women ,dressed in black,running about with flaming torches,&c. I'm 500 yards from fields Romans & Celts had their battle. I surveyed & field walked them as part of my job. LONG ARMY FIELD & FIELD OF BITTER TEARS,are English translation of names they're still called! (I won't give you the Welsh lol. Enough to say Wales or Wild West...I don't care! I just love history! ALL OF IT!!
Welcome to the Extravaganza from Texas!
It is pronounce 'Cib bea cue' I taught school on the White Mtn Apacke Rez for many years. Btw- I greatly enjoy your podcasts. You do a wonderful job and are a wonderful communicator. Thank You!
Noted, thank you
Enjoyed the story as always. And because of the last one I watched Lonesome Dove for the first time in my life! For some reason I always thought it was a love story and refused to watch it. It was pretty good. I must say I enjoyed it and once I started watching it was hard to stop. Went to work a couple days with only half the usual sleep from staying up watching it. Thanks for the recommendation
Yeah, the name sounds a little lovey dovey. Glad you liked it though!
Oh man that was a classic 2 me
Its not a love story soap opera??? What is it? Ive always wanted to watch the brett hart episodes but i 2 thought it was some corny love story
@@mikeperry7335 long story short, it’s about two aging former Texas Rangers who decide to drive a herd of cattle from Texas to Montana. Hart isn’t in it, though, he was just in the series that followed (which isn’t really officially part of the actual story)
@@mikeperry7335 I always thought that too but it's actually a pretty damn good western. There's a couple I don't know how to put it but women that some of the guys love that's in the story but even that wasn't bad. I was kinda surprised that some of it was played on TV back then. I don't want to say too much and ruin anything for you but check it out, I bet you would like it
I had to pause this abot 1/2 way throgh. You mentioned Gen. Crook . He had a doctor named Porter w/ him. This same doc. was with Reno at the greasy grass . He , this gets very deep very fast . Doc Porter said Custer shot himself with a .41 colt double action . He doug the bullet out of the back of his head. Colt sent three of these revolers to the 7th , Long Hair had one , the gen in charge ft the whole campain had one and the doc had the third one . The doc put the bullet from long hairs head in the muzzel of his revolver , it fit and had the same pointed shape . long hair had been shot throuth the shoulder but in his view it would not have been fatal unless it got infected. Dr. Porter was the doc at the birth of this man . Doc told him not to say anything about this untill Mrs. Custer died . The clues here , 1878 colt the .41 cal and the doc was a man well known by the army. He was with reno ! N. Dakota doc. maybe south. I am old now . Thes clues may lead you to a very good story. Thanks for your work . And , Hoka Hay !!
There was a story Custer carried a double action British Bulldog " type" pattern revolver. So it is very possible he carried this experimental type revolver from Colt. Since Dr Porter was a very honest person, I believe Custer did shoot himself not wanting g to be taken alive and wounded by the hostile. The British Bulldog type double action was mistaken as the Colt was an experimental prototype from that pistol.
@@tbcoachniblick1208 The revolver was model 1878 i think , there was a 38 and a 41 cal. lightning ? and thunderer . billy the kid had one . i know not witch. It was enemac as the bullet did not exit , but left a bump on the other side of his head , this the Doc. , , excavated ? I believe this story to be true . Doc. Porter delivered the man that brought forth this story. i can not recall his name . this from about 60 yr,s ago. Happy trails . Gary
Wild West Extravaganza works better than my psychotropic medicine when the world's getting too fast.
Glad to hear it
Sounds a bit more like Matt be great to me an Alabama football youtuber
When I lived in Cheyenne, WY., the people who I talked to who knew of Tom Horn and his life overwhelmingly believe that Tom Horn was innocent of the murder he was hanged for. I do, too.
As for all the murders he actually did do...
@@charlesfaure1189I'm still at the beginning of the video, but just because someone's killed before, doesn't automatically mean they're guilty of another murder they're accused of.
Muggy-own is how Louis L' Amour said it.
Tom Horn is someone I haven't heard a whole lot about compared to the likes of Billy the Kid and Jim Bridger. When you said at the beginning that Tom's dog was killed, I thought he was going to go all John Wick on us. Speaking of dogs, I just finished a write-up on the Conner-Low-Smith Feud of Sabine County, Texas. There was a battle with the Texas Rangers in which the Conners defeated them using their hunting dogs. The State of Texas brought their own trail dogs in from Huntsville Prison to hunt them down but were unsuccessful in the big thickets of East Texas.
Best Voice on TH-cam! That bit where he sang TLC had my side hurtin from laughin😂
Thank you
I agree ND there's some mighty fine ones out there
@@lindaarrington9397 true that... His is a very unique voice. He plays off the sarcasm and seriousness extremely well in my opinion.
I, Tom Horn was one of my first real books. Still one of my favorites!
🎉Do a video on Jim Thorpe, the native American who won the pentathlon and decathlon in Stockholm during the 1912 Summer Olympics. Two gold medals.
Thorpe played professional baseball and professional football.
Sumbitch was a hero monster. Got stripped o' he medals. Like f'g Ira Hayes. Hey Josh - do him. Wrong century. Right guy.
Takes me like 4 days 2 eat a hamburger. Don't forget much.
Great episode, thank you sir.
Thank you for listening
Just made a good day better!! Ty Josh
Steve McQueen in Tom Horn was vicious
I never ate a bug that big.
"Talks about himself." Fucking hilarious. You wouldn't have that in Apache would you?
Killing it my guy. You keep getting better
Thank you
Hell yes Josh remember asking ya to do this one while back or in the bloody beaver days thanks man I watched it last night was good can't wait for the rest keep it up buddy 👍
Thanks Wade
Shout out TLC. “Hanging out the passenger side of your best friends ride”
Tom Horn may have been one the biggest badassess in the Old West!
You are hilarious for the TLC reference. Damn good video too.
Said to myself earlier "ooh, it's Wednesday! Time for some history style WWE smackdown"
Yes sir
Appreciate your work
You know that’s right!
Dude that TLC rabbit hole was glorious!
Haha
Just watched last weeks Lonesome Dove episode never got notified just happened to check and found it on your home page go figure??
Well said ,the humor is awesome💯
Amazing work brother 👏. Thank you 🙏
My pleasure
Was listening to this one at work, and my coworker says “Josh sounds like a Texan Arnold Schwarzenegger
Well that’s a first
Whin I lived in Albany County Wyoming. There was the remains of an old stage stop. In what wad left of the rafters someone had carved ( Tom Horn 1900 . I say this because I was not there whin it was carved. But the aging of the wood, it was not new. A friend of mine said he knew of a line shack east of Bosler that a similar carving said Horn was in Wyoming as early as 1898
It's spelled "when"... Not "whin"
That’s pretty cool
Yo Josh, another great episode bruh! Yes, you pronounced both ways to say Mogollon correctly, and of course got 'Prezcit' right. That being said, I've only heard Cibeque pronounced 3 different ways here. These are see/bee/queue... sih/bih/queue... and see/bih/queue. Cheers man and can't wait for next week.
Two out of three!
I wonder if he met the Pigeon brothers???
This is very well done. It was clearly evident as I listened to the story, that somebody did their research thoroughly. And finding info on specific events more than 100 years old is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. But the details you brought to this story showed me you didn't find all the needles, but found plenty of them. That info rounded your tale out nicely. Yes, this is a nice tight package and is interesting to listen too.
Thank you
Or finding a hay in a needle stack!!!! 😮😮😮
LETS GOOOO this gonna be good
Come on
Blazing Channel Josh, keep it up Brother 👊🏼
Appreciate it!
Love your channel Josh.
I appreciate that
If anyone finds this interesting, you should read the book 'The Apache Wars: The Hunt for Geronimo, the Apache Kid, and the Captive Boy Who Started the Longest War in American History'. Very indepth history of the conflict and many of characters that played a role
Great suggestions
A tough man in a tough country during a tough time. History sometimes needs men like this.
Having known a few "cowboys", I will assure you that they are all very good storytellers.
Great video can't wait til next one
Just another Outstanding piece. You definitely have found your calling my Friend. As an old Marine... I'd damned sure love you to do some military stuff...when you're outta the West. You are a Fantastic Storyteller Sir. Killing it. SF
Thank you, devil dog
Hi Josh, i really like the visuals you added to the video's, nice job. I imagine it takes longer to edit, but i sure appreciate the work. G-d bless.
If Tom Horn’s middle initial was H, it’s possible he was named for his father’s father, Hartman Horn. Also, Tom sometimes used the aliases Tom Hale and Tom Hicks, so these could also be clues.
Really interesting episode, he's one person that I haven't really read up on a whole lot. Currently reading Dark Angel of Texas by Leon Mertz suggested to me by you after I watched your John Wesley Hardin series. Haven't gotten that far into it yet but really enjoying it so far.
Pretty good book
Love your videos. It appears that you put many hours into research prior to posting the video. Again, thank you.
Glad you like them!
Some very good content Josh. For Horn's middle name, i offer up Horse-shit. As half of everything out of his mouth was a crock, i think it's fitting. I'm looking forward to hear about Tom's trip up to Buffalo and his association with the Regulators.
Best Wishes to You, Your Family and Friends.
Ha
You never miss, sir! Every video is informative and funny as hell. Appreciate you, sir 👊 ❤🇺🇸
Thank you, sir
Tom Horatio Horn
I think Your correct about his middle name, I often research the many histories and have heard Tom called The Hershey Kid
I knew it
Great story
Glad you think so
Good luck, God bless.
Thanks, you too
Packing mules all across the lands!!!! ❤😂😂😂😂😂
Your videos are amazing bro. Well researched and entertaining. You finally convinced me brushy bill was not billy the kid and I have been a fan since bloody Beaver. You should do an over view of the magnificent seven remake with Denzel. Id love to hear your opinion on the character depictions , who they we're in the movie based on on who they actually were in real life there lives and background and how well or bad did the movie depict these characters like tom horn, and goodnight. How realistic is the storyline, was it based on something similar. Something like that. Either way love this vid all your work and cant wait for future vids but for real a magnificent 7 video would be sick and would love to hear your take and research on the subject.
Thanks man
Man, great episode as always. Fav podcast by far. Dude, u should do a colab with Warhawk.he made a great series on Texas war of independence. I like to picture you as yo samity sam with a hat and red stash infront of the microphone spitting hot fire. On a real note, hope you and yours are bleesed brother. Keep up the great work.
Thank you
Yosemite Sam spoke slower, cussed more often, and never spoke a sentence with more than 12 words between periods.
Thanks for all the true speculation comments… love the way you explained it
ANOTHER BANGER !
Searching for my lost shaker of salt
Happy trails, Cowpoke
Believe Tom Horn with Salt Shaker.
Awesome presentation brother 😎
Thank you
Commenting for the algorithm 😅
Appreciate it
Like comments too😅😊
I'll say
Here here
Hood Classic right here!
As always , nice job Josh...
Now this Al Seaver guy when he was wondering around Virginia Maryland and Pennsylvania , was he wearing the blue or the Grey ?
🤔
And I think Antietam is pronounced
"Sharpsburg"
😉 😊
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Blue. Infantry out of Minnesota
@WildWestExtravaganza
ty I was wondering
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Josh is a great storyteller.
Thank you!
Thought you were going to say named after the notorious squeezer of the charmin
Very nice presentation.
Gracias
Here's my man JOSH!!....
THE WORLD IS AT PEACE AGAIN!....
thanks bro!!
Thank YOU
I absolutely love your content, I share the same views, I surely wish I had a Time Machine
Maybe one day
If you read the biographys of General Crook, Lieutenant Gatewood and Al Sieber, you’ll get a pretty good idea of the Apache wars down here and what went on. Horn is never mentioned in any prominent way. Sounds like he had a pretty high opinion of himself in regards to his part in the Apache wars, but no one else did. Good roper though, he won the steer roping at Cheyenne.
I'm a little late sorry this is going to awesome
I never understood why they didn't just kill him. He was only one man. As soon as they saw him, he was there to kill someone. As for stealing cows, it looks like both sides, the poor and the rich were both stealing cows. That is why no one wanted barb wire, from what I have read.
Fear
@@WildWestExtravaganza I understand the immigrants, who couldn't swim or own firearms. But some of the people who fought the Indians and bandits, I don't see why they didn't just light him up. Kind of like Deacon Jim, they took him from jail and hanged him. The only card I can see he had to play was telling who his employers were. Most places you are just as guilty for hiring a murder as doing it. Some states, you rob a gas station, and it goes bad, some gets killed, you are guilty just for being with them. I do think that was part of Horn's problem, you are looking after the Johnson Co. Cattle war and what a nightmare that ended in. I believe the big ranchers may have set him up on this killing and sacrificed to cool every bodies jets. It is just a thought.
Everybody has a date , how we handle it is personal.
Excellent presentation. THANK YOU.
You are welcome
Goodun. 👍
Thanks
Josh, helping you with pronunciations.
Cib e cue. The salt river canyon battle site🤠
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Need him in Washington DC
How come?
Dig him up.
I used to think Tom Horn was a pretty cool character but history tells another story. That of a psychopath and a habitual liar. Probably created by his parents. He murdered several innocent men in cold blood, preferring to shoot from cover when the victims weren't expecting it.
BTW, Cibeque is pronounced "C.B.Q." As an Alaskan Native artist, I attended Native Art School in Santa Fe, NM, 97-99 and I had two fellow students that are White Mountain Apache and we laughed at being long-lost cousins (we share the same language, but I dropped my understanding and accent in 3rd Grade in Tacoma, WA), but mispronunciation of their names is a kind of cultural insult (I can put you in touch with at least one of them if interested.), for reference, it would be like hearing someone pronounce Lincoln as "Link Colon", or Washington as "Washing-A-Tons....of clothes, I guess", Ted Roosevelt as "Tied-Door Rose-sea-felt" or even Thomas Jefferson as "Tomb...Toes....Two-mace Jeff's-a-sin". At first, it's heard in light humor, but by the tenth time hearing mispronunciation is annoying and after three sessions of putting everything else aside to focus on simple, accurate pronunciation the eleventh time is noted as an insult that makes the next episode avoided.
Yes...roll those R's!
Best of luck in the future
You too
I think Tom's middle name should be huckleberry Tom Huckleberry horn
I like it
Oooooohhhhhh yeah.
you say he is exaggerating about his achievements. Maybe he is. Maybe it is just the way how he remembers.
Or...there is a saying: It looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
Maybe as packer Horn was thinking he was doing the same thing all the fine people are doing. So he saw himself as one of them and not just as a packer. As you at the end say when talking about his deadliness you say that he was send to check for farms and send on patrol. Hard to say someone is just a packer when sending on patrol where he had real shootouts and not just the chance to get shot at.
Meaning from his point he does all what the scouts does. So he is a scout. Just under another name.
And as he later becomes a scout all this becomes maybe blurry in his memory. He was doing scout work so to him in his memory he probably also was already a scout.
I doubt he wrote a resume and kept it updated to send it in with new employers.
Who knows what really happened. And who knows if he was a boaster. It's just that these wrong statements could also be honest statements.
And cool vid. Love your vids. The way you tell the stories you bring life to them.
You said the battle of “big dry wash” (I think it was called) was the last Apache battle to happen on U.S. soil. Honest question, was there Apache battles elsewhere? Great topic, bye the way, separated from Hollywood, just the truth. .
Last major Apache battle. There were raids and skirmishes after, and the Army would clash with the Apache in Mexico.
who else is giving thanks on this Sabbath for the formerly "Bloody Beav" not selling our his own voice to Ai like "Blathering at the Just OK, Corral"
What do you mean?
God bless you buddy...hope it turns out well
Horn was a small league killer look at James Kirker Ouch !!
Al Siber was an interesting character.. Josh have you ever done a pod cast on him..? I really do get a kick out of your view of history... Good on ya..!
I have not yet but I hope to
Yeah I get a kick outta Josh but never get notices
In Arizona we pronounce Cibecue Sib-a-cue, your Cibecue Creek was a little painful, good job with Mogollon. Great job altogether I mean, you probably won't have to say Cibecue again anyway.
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"Hershey Kisses"? Ya, Josh, I'm in. We need to start a petition, get his gravestone re-carved, lol! Excellent episode!
Good thing I have your channel bell set.
Good thing!
There is a man and a channel 31:09 named Brett Hall and I think you would find his videos on bill very interesting. A sit down interview between you two and your opinions on the kid would be very interesting inciteful and entertaining in my opinion
Epic content
Many thanks
Idk why but I feel like i as the only one. Who caught the tlc no scrubs lol 😂. I fwy cuz
My man
They called him Horn on account of the ears
When you gonna cover tombstone and Wyatt Earp?
One of these days
Remember Tom Horn kept the life truth
Jeremiah Johnson kept his conviction.
What do you mean?
I believe some people are just born liars. These lies may not hurt anyone but they gotta tell em. At 56 I've known a good few
Amen
Me to one guy
A friend
Was pathological
I had to walk away
You got the pronunciation for mogollon right. I think..