Yes, at 40,000 miles my ac condenser on my 2020 Telluride "was damaged" and ac stopped working. Cost was $1500 to repair. I ordered these screens as well . I encourage anyone who owns a Kia Telluride to take a look at your condenser through the bottom openings of your grill. You will see!! I am very happy with the Volt shop screens. Hopefully this will not happen to me again . Kia needs to redesign this. Thanks for posting this video.
I've started investigating what car will replace my trusty 2007 Odyssey van. On my short list was the Telluride. I came across this as I was checking for fuel overflow issue on Kia cars. When I bought my 2007 Odyssey new, the odyforum mentioned about rocks hitting the rad / condensers that puncture holes into them. I had to jerry rig a solution the home depot way using a gutter guard screen. It has been 14 years and my van's AC and rad has been working well. Kudos to your invention for the screen grill. Kia should at least have a metal screen build right into the openings.
Thanks for the heads up Stephen, wasn’t aware of this issue. After some thought I’m going to one of my big box home stores and buying a couple plastic gutter helmets and cutting then mounting on the backside of the grill. I prefer $5 instead of $75. Keep up the good videos.
When I bought my 2007 Sienna (new) I did that with a metal gutter screen mesh I bought from Home Depot to protect the radiator... exactly like what you shown here. It works for all these 14 years and I still have it to this day.
People want to be scared and refuse to admit there is nothing wrong. As you mentioned, just go and look at all those "fatal Funnels" in all the cars out there.
Good idea but I don't like how it looks...would attempt to install behind the grill instead somehow...but for functionality it's a winner...tks for the video.
@Stephen O'Hara Good product 👌 and good point for the less attentive...can't get past the zip ties but understand they are necessary...will have to investigate further...thank you for making this product.
@Stephen O'Hara I might get a set for an EX model. I would install the longer screen over and the two shorter screens at the back of the grill. My question, what would be the ideal material or part number to help me install them easily at the back of the grill? I checked the website and there are 3 different materials offered?
Happened to me too. 2023 KIA Sorento EX Hybrid. One little random rock dented the coolant coils and leaked inverter fluid everywhere. Replacement part and labor cost $1100. Debating whether to have a custom auto body install a home depot type screen $450 (bumper has to be removed) or buy the internal set from Volt Shelf. Looking for any videos on how hard or easy it would be to install these. I think it can happen to any car but something about new KIAs and the size of the opening. KIA mechanic said he's repaired 3 in the last few months.
Useful info. Now having the same problem with the Santa Cruz ’22 Limited edition. Expensive radiator replacement. What's the link to prevent future rocks causing radiatir replacement? Please post or provide contact info. Thanks!
I agree the telluride is a great SUV .I love mine as well .Mine is a 2020 gravity gray night sky model .Up here in Nova Scotia the nightfall was already copy righted thus the night sky name.
All brands suffer from this same issue to a point.. Seems KIA's is a little worse though.....Does it create any extra wind noise? Seeing the tie stap pieces looks horrible. needs to be grabbed from the back side to look right and its all wavy looking.
This was not fixed for the 23, 24, or 25 TellurideScreen. The situation is just as bad for them, and we do have sets available for this grill shapes. HTH!
I had a 2005 Honda Pilot that also had the opening similar to the Telluride. Owned the Pilot for about a month when my wife was driving on the highway and a stick was kicked up by a car ahead of her. It pierced the radiator.
Oh, by far that is not their worst design flaw! Some of their vehicles (Telluride included) come with transmission that has oil pan made of plastic and mounted vertically. So in time due to different expansion rate of cast aluminum and plastic they inevitably start leaking. Once you come for a fix they’ll tell you that they do not fix transmissions, they only replace them”!! Learned hard way. By the way all that was required a new gasket. They quoted $2.5k. I flipped them off, and tightened the heck out of those bolts myself, changed fluid. 40k later transmission performs perfectly but still leaking a bit. At some point will need a new oil pan and a seal.
What does Kia/Hyundai say about this. Will it void any warranty because of reduced airflow etc. or extra maint. charge during routine service. I love my 2020 Telluride I want another but not the 2023,no way I love the orange front lights. It would be cool for some one to design a circuit to allow you to make the left or right orange or white lights to do a quick blink e.g. a wink .
I just got a 2022. Is this still an issue for this model year? Also, what about if you have a front license plate holder which covers half of that top section? Just cut it?
I have a higher trim 2020 Telluride and put a European license plate on the bottom in line with my fog lights. It looked very nice but had to relocate it because it was blocking a sensor. I believe it was the front collision sensor. Putting these screens on the higher end Telluride will likely block these sensors as well. Just saying.
@Stephen O'Hara Well, I had an SX Prestige Package and when I placed that European license plate at the bottom, between the two fog lamps, I received a block error. It was blocking something. When I took it off it when clear. I did not have it located near the grill or anywhere at the top.
I'll be doing this on my 2022 Sorento this weekend. Rock came through and damaged the radiator last week with only 1,245 miles on the car. $1,300 dollars later...
There has to be a better way than this because honestly I don’t like the way that looks. You can see the zip ties easily and how are those screams going to hold up over time?
I don't think manufacturers purposely design grills to let rocks and debris in and help increase parts sales, but I also think they know what it takes to protect a radiator. The seem to be choosing high design over protection, busted radiators and condensers are just the collateral damage. And it isn't their problem because it isn't a warranty issue. So they seem to not be concerned with spending your money for you after the sale....
PT Barnum wold be proud of you. "Fatal Flaw" will get you legal action from Kia. NEARLY ALL CARS radiator openings in front bumper go straight to the condenser and radiator! Anyone who does not believe me, just peek at the front of any car out there and prove me wrong. Snake oil and fear mongering at its best!
lmao. my man zip tied the heck out of that. you only need 2. p.s. that looks hideous. as far as the design goes, it's not a flaw. it's designed that way for airflow. you just restricted that. Chance of a rock flying and hitting that is 50 50 but I'll take that chance vs overheating the engine from airflow restriction.
I will not even share the math on how wrong you likely are about these screens creating measurable airflow 'restrictions' in these openings. I would agree, though, on my vehicle I would try to find a way to install these behind the openings and without visible zipties, if possible.
Watching this video I laughed so hard this looks like a scam! I have 2020 Telluride which I bought brand-new at the time. Now it has 30,000 miles on it. I had NO problems with it whatsoever I've driven it from one end of this Empire to the other. Do your homework before you buy some trash bag ties & put them on your SUV.
Used them on my 2021 Telluride for a 6,100-mile road trip (Tampa to Seattle and back) Summer 2022.- NOT impressed. First, the rubber edging isn't glued, nor is it a ring of rubber. It's a long strip of channel-rubber with a tiny and tight channel along the length (think of a straw the has been sliced all the way down with a razor blade down one side). The VERY pointy metal edge sits a little inside that channel, and wraps all the way around the VERY pointy mesh, meeting its other end. Because it's not a ring of rubber, you have a gap where both ends meet, and the rubber WILL and does separate with very little handling, exposing VERY pointy and VERY painful metal mesh edging. It takes a bit of time to fight the VERY pointy mesh edging into the tight little channel when it falls off, which it does often and eagerly. POOR DESIGN. I only used the 3 lower screens (full width, I have no fog lights), as installing the big upper grille mesh would require taking off most of the front end. I tried installing it, then stopped. No thanks. So, I installed the 3 skinny ones as directed, and headed out on my trip the next day. I made it to southern Illinois (from Tampa) before having to make rubber-edging repairs to both smaller ones. Before I got halfway to Seattle, one had completely slipped its rubber ring, and the other ring was partially hanging off. All the VERY pointed metal mesh was protruding, and I was concerned about it damaging my paint/body, and my hands. I drove with the 2 looking like hell anyway, as the zip-ties held it in place well. But well before I got to Seattle, I had cut the two lowers off, as they were becoming a hazard, irreparable, and looked awful. Embarrassing, actually. There were no major impacts to the mesh...just moths, and random insects, so it's not like they took some kind of super-hero impacts. The long upper middle mesh held up well, as did its rubber edging, even after a dragonfly impact, so I left it on until I got back to Tampa. I removed it permanently at that point, as it was just battered. Was it money well spent? I suppose if you don't care about quality, or that it'll look like hell after a handful of bug strikes, then go for it. If these were $5.00 per mesh, I'd do it again, I suppose.
OMG!!! If u drive in the city its fine but u happen to live in a rural areas then ur kinda taking risks with any vehicle..... NOT just the lol telluride its a beautiful vehicle. If u ever test drive one.... u can thank me later lol
Abraham- I am the maker of these screens. We have never had a report of a radiator or AC condenser punctured by anything going through our screens. We have had reports of much larger accidents that wrecked the front end of the car and the screen pieces were still able to be used again. HTH!
KIA should just address this themselves and redesign the trim to include a more robust rock & road debris barrier. And aesthetically it should be on the inside.
DON'T BUY. These are HORRIBLE for any real distance driving. I bought these for my 2021 Kia Telluride for a road trip between Tampa, FL to Seattle. I've made the trip in the same car previously without these, and nothing bad happened. So I tried these as a just-in-case. All of these bent from dragonfly and random bug strikes, and all of them wither bent inwards creating an opening, or peeled out of their rubber edge rings, creating seriously dangerous-to-grab situations. One mesh was even hanging of the front bumper - even though all of them were zip-tied. I had to cut the zip ties and throw them all in the trash by the time I hit the mid-west. COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY.
I'm not quite sure what happened here, if you would send some pictures to me, i would love to analyze them and see what is going on and what can be done. I have not heard of this issue at all previously. Some of the stated concerns sound possibly like installation issues. These are metal mesh screens, bugs and dragon flies should not bend or damage them. A rock might dent one, but that is a badge of honor, letting you know your radiator was spared. HTH!
An update to my earlier reply. After studying the screens being installed on the inside of the grill for some time, and discussing it with owners that have done this, we are now ok with installing them behind the grill. While this is a bit more work, I agree that it is a more stealthy look.
Yes, at 40,000 miles my ac condenser on my 2020 Telluride "was damaged" and ac stopped working. Cost was $1500 to repair. I ordered these screens as well . I encourage anyone who owns a Kia Telluride to take a look at your condenser through the bottom openings of your grill. You will see!! I am very happy with the Volt shop screens. Hopefully this will not happen to me again . Kia needs to redesign this. Thanks for posting this video.
Thank you for sharing the link. Ordered the product and I installed it as well. Seems like a worthy investment. Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.
I've started investigating what car will replace my trusty 2007 Odyssey van. On my short list was the Telluride. I came across this as I was checking for fuel overflow issue on Kia cars. When I bought my 2007 Odyssey new, the odyforum mentioned about rocks hitting the rad / condensers that puncture holes into them. I had to jerry rig a solution the home depot way using a gutter guard screen. It has been 14 years and my van's AC and rad has been working well. Kudos to your invention for the screen grill. Kia should at least have a metal screen build right into the openings.
That makes complete sense got to check mine I've got the s package
Thanks for the heads up Stephen, wasn’t aware of this issue. After some thought I’m going to one of my big box home stores and buying a couple plastic gutter helmets and cutting then mounting on the backside of the grill. I prefer $5 instead of $75. Keep up the good videos.
Thanks for the great idea. You are not an aesthetics guy it shows. Would have been cleaner (harder yes) to do from the inside, not the outside.
When I bought my 2007 Sienna (new) I did that with a metal gutter screen mesh I bought from Home Depot to protect the radiator... exactly like what you shown here. It works for all these 14 years and I still have it to this day.
Me too, on my 2007 Odyssey. Gutter guard to the rescue.
Every single car has that, there isn’t a car out that doesn’t have a “fatal funnel” walk outside and check your car and neighbors…
People want to be scared and refuse to admit there is nothing wrong. As you mentioned, just go and look at all those "fatal Funnels" in all the cars out there.
Good idea but I don't like how it looks...would attempt to install behind the grill instead somehow...but for functionality it's a winner...tks for the video.
@Stephen O'Hara Good product 👌 and good point for the less attentive...can't get past the zip ties but understand they are necessary...will have to investigate further...thank you for making this product.
@Stephen O'Hara I might get a set for an EX model. I would install the longer screen over and the two shorter screens at the back of the grill. My question, what would be the ideal material or part number to help me install them easily at the back of the grill? I checked the website and there are 3 different materials offered?
@Stephen O'Hara I live in Saudi Arabia. Can you ship it?
Just sent an email to you.
Hold up on shipping will figure out later today.
These look horrendous. Would most definitely find a way to put behind the grill(s)..
they look ok, but you def need to find a more invisible mounting mechanism.
Prolly better to zip tie them from the inside out.
Happened to me too. 2023 KIA Sorento EX Hybrid. One little random rock dented the coolant coils and leaked inverter fluid everywhere. Replacement part and labor cost $1100. Debating whether to have a custom auto body install a home depot type screen $450 (bumper has to be removed) or buy the internal set from Volt Shelf. Looking for any videos on how hard or easy it would be to install these. I think it can happen to any car but something about new KIAs and the size of the opening. KIA mechanic said he's repaired 3 in the last few months.
Actually glad I randomly found this video!!
No One will know! Because it's' Slick Looking. This fellow means business. "Clean"Swift" Cut to the point. Thank you! Steve! & VOLTSHELF🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Stephen O'Hara how do I order?
Useful info. Now having the same problem with the Santa Cruz ’22 Limited edition. Expensive radiator replacement. What's the link to prevent future rocks causing radiatir replacement? Please post or provide contact info. Thanks!
Hate to break it to you but nearly every vehicle on the market has this issue. Its not something specific to the Telluride.
I agree the telluride is a great SUV .I love mine as well .Mine is a 2020 gravity gray night sky model .Up here in Nova Scotia the nightfall was already copy righted thus the night sky name.
You can also just put a mesh screen in behind the bumper, but in front of the radiator and it will protect everything as well.
All brands suffer from this same issue to a point.. Seems KIA's is a little worse though.....Does it create any extra wind noise? Seeing the tie stap pieces looks horrible. needs to be grabbed from the back side to look right and its all wavy looking.
Does this “fatal funnel” apply to 2024 Telluride’s?
This was not fixed for the 23, 24, or 25 TellurideScreen. The situation is just as bad for them, and we do have sets available for this grill shapes. HTH!
Am glad to have found this video.
Do you make them for the 2023 Telluride?
Thank you for the video, I had no idea about this flaw on my Telluride.
No kidding.....mine just turned 30k this week and began blowing warm air yesterday.
Thx for the info mate, but isnt it possible to get it behind the OEM "mesh", so its unvisible?
Where do you order? Volt Shop?
Was this fixed in the 23 ax model
It was not fixed for the 23-25s
Was this issue resolved on the 2022?
Didn't know that! Thanks!!
I had a 2005 Honda Pilot that also had the opening similar to the Telluride. Owned the Pilot for about a month when my wife was driving on the highway and a stick was kicked up by a car ahead of her. It pierced the radiator.
This probably wouldnt have helped since they are just held in with Zip Ties.
Folks in here will still believe that was Kia's fault even though it was a Honda vehicle. They all chose to be afraid
Oh, by far that is not their worst design flaw! Some of their vehicles (Telluride included) come with transmission that has oil pan made of plastic and mounted vertically. So in time due to different expansion rate of cast aluminum and plastic they inevitably start leaking. Once you come for a fix they’ll tell you that they do not fix transmissions, they only replace them”!! Learned hard way. By the way all that was required a new gasket. They quoted $2.5k. I flipped them off, and tightened the heck out of those bolts myself, changed fluid. 40k later transmission performs perfectly but still leaking a bit. At some point will need a new oil pan and a seal.
How exactly can I order these. 2020 SX.
What does Kia/Hyundai say about this.
Will it void any warranty because of reduced airflow etc.
or extra maint. charge during routine service.
I love my 2020 Telluride I want another but not the 2023,no way I love the orange front lights. It would be cool for some one to design a circuit to allow you to make the left or right orange or white lights to do a quick blink e.g. a wink .
What's the link
Is a problem with a 2021 SX ? Thank you.
I believe so , yes
Yes, better trade it in before its too late
I just got a 2022. Is this still an issue for this model year? Also, what about if you have a front license plate holder which covers half of that top section? Just cut it?
the wind is killing me on this.
I have a higher trim 2020 Telluride and put a European license plate on the bottom in line with my fog lights. It looked very nice but had to relocate it because it was blocking a sensor. I believe it was the front collision sensor. Putting these screens on the higher end Telluride will likely block these sensors as well. Just saying.
@Stephen O'Hara Well, I had an SX Prestige Package and when I placed that European license plate at the bottom, between the two fog lamps, I received a block error. It was blocking something. When I took it off it when clear. I did not have it located near the grill or anywhere at the top.
I'll be doing this on my 2022 Sorento this weekend. Rock came through and damaged the radiator last week with only 1,245 miles on the car. $1,300 dollars later...
There has to be a better way than this because honestly I don’t like the way that looks. You can see the zip ties easily and how are those screams going to hold up over time?
The factory must make it for Ac and radiator safety other than owners trials
this is why non-car people shouldn't be allowed to talk about cars...
Thank you for the awesome content! Can I know contact you if possible? Cannot find out any email or social media account in the channel.
Thanks
It's designed for things to get in the grill it's about a 3 grand fix at the dealership. And the auto makers sells the dealer the parts to fix it
I don't think manufacturers purposely design grills to let rocks and debris in and help increase parts sales, but I also think they know what it takes to protect a radiator. The seem to be choosing high design over protection, busted radiators and condensers are just the collateral damage. And it isn't their problem because it isn't a warranty issue. So they seem to not be concerned with spending your money for you after the sale....
I have 2023 Hyundai palisade 10k miles with the same problem. I have no ac
PT Barnum wold be proud of you. "Fatal Flaw" will get you legal action from Kia. NEARLY ALL CARS radiator openings in front bumper go straight to the condenser and radiator! Anyone who does not believe me, just peek at the front of any car out there and prove me wrong.
Snake oil and fear mongering at its best!
Great video, I am sure this will save a lot of people money and aggravation, 👍
lmao. my man zip tied the heck out of that. you only need 2. p.s. that looks hideous. as far as the design goes, it's not a flaw. it's designed that way for airflow. you just restricted that. Chance of a rock flying and hitting that is 50 50 but I'll take that chance vs overheating the engine from airflow restriction.
I will not even share the math on how wrong you likely are about these screens creating measurable airflow 'restrictions' in these openings. I would agree, though, on my vehicle I would try to find a way to install these behind the openings and without visible zipties, if possible.
cute man
Watching this video I laughed so hard this looks like a scam!
I have 2020 Telluride which I bought brand-new at the time. Now it has 30,000 miles on it. I had NO problems with it whatsoever I've driven it from one end of this Empire to the other. Do your homework before you buy some trash bag ties & put them on your SUV.
Used them on my 2021 Telluride for a 6,100-mile road trip (Tampa to Seattle and back) Summer 2022.- NOT impressed. First, the rubber edging isn't glued, nor is it a ring of rubber. It's a long strip of channel-rubber with a tiny and tight channel along the length (think of a straw the has been sliced all the way down with a razor blade down one side). The VERY pointy metal edge sits a little inside that channel, and wraps all the way around the VERY pointy mesh, meeting its other end. Because it's not a ring of rubber, you have a gap where both ends meet, and the rubber WILL and does separate with very little handling, exposing VERY pointy and VERY painful metal mesh edging. It takes a bit of time to fight the VERY pointy mesh edging into the tight little channel when it falls off, which it does often and eagerly. POOR DESIGN. I only used the 3 lower screens (full width, I have no fog lights), as installing the big upper grille mesh would require taking off most of the front end. I tried installing it, then stopped. No thanks. So, I installed the 3 skinny ones as directed, and headed out on my trip the next day. I made it to southern Illinois (from Tampa) before having to make rubber-edging repairs to both smaller ones. Before I got halfway to Seattle, one had completely slipped its rubber ring, and the other ring was partially hanging off. All the VERY pointed metal mesh was protruding, and I was concerned about it damaging my paint/body, and my hands. I drove with the 2 looking like hell anyway, as the zip-ties held it in place well. But well before I got to Seattle, I had cut the two lowers off, as they were becoming a hazard, irreparable, and looked awful. Embarrassing, actually. There were no major impacts to the mesh...just moths, and random insects, so it's not like they took some kind of super-hero impacts. The long upper middle mesh held up well, as did its rubber edging, even after a dragonfly impact, so I left it on until I got back to Tampa. I removed it permanently at that point, as it was just battered. Was it money well spent? I suppose if you don't care about quality, or that it'll look like hell after a handful of bug strikes, then go for it. If these were $5.00 per mesh, I'd do it again, I suppose.
I came to learn that this is pure BS. My buddy has a Hyundai Santa which has a big exposure to the radiator and still after 10 years he had 0 issues.
OMG!!! If u drive in the city its fine but u happen to live in a rural areas then ur kinda taking risks with any vehicle..... NOT just the lol telluride its a beautiful vehicle. If u ever test drive one.... u can thank me later lol
No really a “fatal” design flaw. And if your worried about a rock doing “damage” that screen will do nothing to stop a rock from doing damage
Abraham- I am the maker of these screens. We have never had a report of a radiator or AC condenser punctured by anything going through our screens. We have had reports of much larger accidents that wrecked the front end of the car and the screen pieces were still able to be used again. HTH!
KIA should just address this themselves and redesign the trim to include a more robust rock & road debris barrier. And aesthetically it should be on the inside.
They probably have not addressed it because its not that big of an issue as nearly every car manufacturer today would have the same issue.
DON'T BUY. These are HORRIBLE for any real distance driving. I bought these for my 2021 Kia Telluride for a road trip between Tampa, FL to Seattle. I've made the trip in the same car previously without these, and nothing bad happened. So I tried these as a just-in-case. All of these bent from dragonfly and random bug strikes, and all of them wither bent inwards creating an opening, or peeled out of their rubber edge rings, creating seriously dangerous-to-grab situations. One mesh was even hanging of the front bumper - even though all of them were zip-tied. I had to cut the zip ties and throw them all in the trash by the time I hit the mid-west. COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY.
I'm not quite sure what happened here, if you would send some pictures to me, i would love to analyze them and see what is going on and what can be done. I have not heard of this issue at all previously. Some of the stated concerns sound possibly like installation issues. These are metal mesh screens, bugs and dragon flies should not bend or damage them. A rock might dent one, but that is a badge of honor, letting you know your radiator was spared. HTH!
Are you a window licker...? Tons of cars have giant gaps like that in front of the radiator and condenser
Looks bad. You probably should have installed in on the inside not the outside
An update to my earlier reply. After studying the screens being installed on the inside of the grill for some time, and discussing it with owners that have done this, we are now ok with installing them behind the grill. While this is a bit more work, I agree that it is a more stealthy look.
So can you tell me if my having a SX avoids this fatal funnel issue?
I have a 2022 SX. How can I purchase?