2023 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer | First Impressions After Buying
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- My first impressions of my new 2023 Triumph Tiger GT Explorer. How is the power and torque, the comfort, handling, brakes and suspension.
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One thing you can do to get the bike a little lower to the ground is go into the rider configuration mode and put the suspension in off road mode and the other settings to your liking. This will lower the preload on the rear and effectively lower the suspension. That is what I did on my 2016 XRT Explorer, made a world of difference with no loss of on road handling.
Thanks for the tip!
Great real world experience - thank you so much for sharing.
Just picked up a Tiger 900 GT Pro. As this is my first ADV I went with the 900 but may upgrade to the 1200 in another year or two. Still getting used to this style of bike after riding a Roadglide for the past 4 years but so far I am pretty pleased. Got engine guards, hard bags and a handle bar riser coming. Hoping to get in a long trip this summer.
I got mine 2 weeks ago, and I just love the way that responds on the highway and how light it is, from my previous Tiger 1200 2020. looking forward to adding a lot of miles to it.
Always enjoy your bike & gear reviews...they are very helpful. Looking forward to hearing how the Triumph was with a passenger. Thanks again & stay safe!
I will add my experience on the 23 GT Explorer which I picked on Oct 6. After the first 100 miles, i had no stalling issues at all and all functions worked as designed. My only complaint is that the windshield allowed too much wind on both shoulders at low highway speeds. It is a very easy bike to ride with the caution that it is tall so I can't flat foot it. Now I'm off for an afternoon ride. C
@Game Time with Jc I am 5'9" with 31 inch inseam. I have the low seat and can get the balls of both feet down. I can easily handle to he bike with one foot.
Those new Triumphs look great. Reviews are also very positive. Safe travels and enjoy!
Thanks for getting back to me much appreciated 🙏
this is a great feedback thanks taking the time :)
Just got a 2023 Tiger 1200 GT explorer. Love looking at the range meter and seeing over 300 miles to empty 😀
It is nice!
On a recent test ride on this bike, I took fuel gauge range to zero, then rode another 6 miles to the nearest fuel station, if that helps?
I have taken it to 300 miles and had a half gallon left in the tank. So, 315 to 320 is possible, but would never try to do that. Good to know that 300 is possible with a small cushion.
Had my GT since June 2022 have 4000 miles on it several trips around UK. Love it
Highly prejudice here, but I think you'll love the bike. The Sport Bikes of the Sup Ten, the Triumph you have are such great road machines and yet made for sporty travel. I love heading cross continent with mine and suspect you will as well. I'm too old for serious off-road stuff, but this class is offering that potential.
Nice review. Looking forward to hearing how it works over time.
Thks a lot for your review, I'm still deciding if I'll upgrade from my v-strom 650 for the next season.
Nice review and enjoyed the chat style!
Friend on another channel just went for a Triumph 850 Explorer. Great looking bike. Enjoy and ALWAYS RIDE SAFE!
Nice looking bike look forward to watching you new adventures ride safe😎🎥🏍👍👊🍻
I’m presently riding a 2016 Explorer XRT and absolutely love the bike. I put on the low seat but the new bike is just too tall for me. Hope they come out with a low version that includes a center stand. Good review and look forward to more.
Good luck.
My best friend bought a new 2021 Triumph Tiger 900 GTPro and has put 22,000km on it in 18 months.
In the first 18 months it has spent 4 total months in the shop being fixed cause it's always broken.
Lots and lots and lots of computer problems. Engine lights on, limp mode, quick shifter + cruise control stopped working and the bike dies for no reason.
The quality of the triumphs is also a problem.
At 22,000km he has had to replace his fork seals because they were leaking.
By comparison my 2019 Super Tenere that I bought in 2020 has 52,000km on it and I've done nothing to it.
He also already had to replace his front/rear sprockets and chain at only 20,000km.
Triumphs are Crazy expensive to maintain.
His 20,000km valve check and oil change was $2,000!!
By comparison my 40,000km valve check and oil change was $450 on my Tenere.
In the first 18 months he has spent about $4,000 on regular maintenance to maintain his warranty.
Thank God he bought the extended warranty....he will need it.
His Triumph is such a bad bike he will be selling it in the spring and go back to a Japonese motorcycle so he can actually ride it.
I hope you have better luck with yours.
Ride safe.
I went with the Rally Explorer model, Tigers are awesome bikes 👍🏼
Great update, love the new bike! I’m hoping at some point they have a low chassis version at which pint I’ll trade in my BMW s1000xr for it. BMW’s are just so expensive to maintain.
Still love my 900 GT Pro. Enjoy your new ride. It’s excellent.
Congratulations on the new bike!!!!...
Been watching your chanel for some years now. I love your common sense approach to picking our bikes. Accept for the bmw 😏. But love the content. Keep it coming. And as far as the triumph goes, great bike. I haven't seen to much go wrong with any of them. Very few issues with the tiger 1200s over the years. Out of all the European bikes out there, the tiger 1200s are probably the most reliable. Now as far as the other triumph models I don't know but I have seen some issues with the other models. But I think you gone enjoy that tiger 1200 for many years to come. Please keep us informed on the maintenance and cost with it. I'm thinking of purchasing one myself. Thanks and have a blessed day...
Congratulations on the new bike! I have been interested in Triumph motorcycles for a while, but the nearest dealer was over 2 hours away until a few months ago. We now have a dealer in Albany, NY, but I have not had time to visit their showroom. I am glad that the Triumph feels more like a motorcycle. I had tried the BMW 1600 several times and really wanted to like it, but it always felt very appliance like. I prefer something with a different feeling. Perhaps one of the Triumph bikes is in my future?
I will be interested in how the Triumph progresses over time.
THANK YOU!
Jim
Something like the K1600 or the Goldwing is really comfortable and smooth, but you are right they to take away from that visceral feel of riding. Pros and cons to that or course. We shall see how the Tiger does over time, but so far I am really enjoying it.
Thanks Jim!
Great initial review, look forward to updates. I'm currently riding a BMW R1250RT and I'm looking at a 2023 Triumph Tiger GT Pro. I'm going to be test riding it this coming Sat. My BMW has just under 20K miles and has been reliable for the most part but servicing has become insanely expensive and my local BMW dealer is not great, yet is very expensive. My 12K mile service was just under $1100. That is more than I pay to service my MB E450 wagon with a twin turbo 6 cylinder engine. Stay safe.
Yeah, the BMW services are rather pricey. I have the 10k on the Tiger scheduled for July.
Craig i just put panniers on my pan america im thinking about the top case like you have on your tiger. Does it change the handling? My pan america is a bit top heavy and im not sure about it? But i have a electra glide with tour pack and really like the storage. I was just woundering your take on it being you have had the bmw touring bike with a tour pack on it.I need your expert opinion!! And that new tiger adv sure is a sharp bike, good trade!!
Adding a top box will affect handling, but how much depends on the bike and how much you store in there. Top boxes can also change the aerodynamics at speed, which is very bike dependent. The BMW had a tendency to move around a bit on the the highway. If I removed the top box, that went away, for the most part.. So far I do not feel that on the Triumph. I primarily added the top box on the Tiger for Cathy, so she could ride with me on occasion. For solo travel, I actually prefer having a flat surface to strap waterproof bags. That is how the Tenere was set up. With that said, the locking top case does come in handy for small things like phones, cameras, your helmet. I try not to put anything heavy up high. If I was doing off-road travel, I would remove the top case and go with soft bags. So I guess the answer is that there are gives and takes. Think about the type of riding you are doing and what will be the most flexible for you. Thanks!
Beautiful motorcycle!!
Had mine for 6 weeks now (Rally Explorer). Love it. I owned a BMW GS Adventure and KTM Super Adventure S. This bike is as good (if not better) in my opinion.
Just bought your bike same color in Rhode Island. Maybe I will see you around or at the Vanilla bean:) thanks for the video. I will say however I bought mine in Connecticut. Those idiots at Mom's never impress me. They have a rebate they didn't want to tell me about and always have trouble on the sales floor with personell. One phone call to Norwich CT saved me 2k for the same bike but only blue from black. Anyhow can't wait to begin my journey on adventure touring bikes! In all my months of research I think triumph gt explorer was the choice! (And not Moms)
Congrats on the new bike. Will you still be able to pull the trailer ? or are you headed in a different direction for trips ?
Thanks! Unfortunately I will not be pulling the trailer with this bike. I have already sold it and will going back to the old way of traveling.
Beautiful. I’m thinking about a tiger 850 or 660.
The Tiger could be the last gas motorcycle you own, easily. I hope Kathy like it.
If Triumph has fixed the top heavy issue, then the only other issue can be wrestling the big rims in city traffic. If you’re not driving through Manhattan, for mostly freeway ride, this is great.
I see you optioned the aluminum bags and top case. Did you consider the factory plastic cases?
I thought about them, but in the end I decided on the aluminum version, just in case it ever goes down.
Wonderful channel. I am wondering, do you miss the 1600GTL at all? Was it just to big of a 'beast'? I currently ride a K1600B and thinking of moving back to an adventure bike. Miss them greatly, bike before that was a 2016 GSA...she was a reliable tractor for sure! Ride on, stay safe!
The K was a great bike to ride, but so is the Tiger and for solo trips I enjoy it more than the K. For 2 up riding the K was much better though
Hey Craig! Nice new bike. 👌 Was wondering if you still had that 2015 Yamaha red Tenere that you rode to Alaska...now I know the answer...BTW on oil changes from 6,000 to 10,000 miles is not 40% more miles, it is 67% more 😉 Happy Indian Summer and Halloween. Enjoy your new Triumph!!
Nice review, may I ask how tall you are because you placed a lower saddle. I am looking forward to your next experiences and videos of your new bike. 👍✌
I am 5'9" with a 31 inch inseam.
@@LivingOffTheSlabThanks for the response
I’ve had BMW, Triumph, KTM and Ducati. I tried all the new bikes, and settled for the Duc V4S. If you don’t mind chain maintenance, it’s a great bike, so far.
Great looking bike and I heard that engine is amazing.
Similar to you, I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Pro, coming off of 7 years of riding a Trophy SE. That had a silky smooth 1215 triple, huge OEM windscreen, and a custom seat by Bill Mayer Saddles. Looking at the much smaller windscreen on the Tiger, I thought for sure that I would be buying an aftermarket one. No need, as I get zero buffeting, just wind on my shoulders (it was virtually still air on the Trophy). The vibration is there, but as you mentioned, I don’t really notice it anymore, even on long trips. And the seat, while not quite like the custom one on the Trophy, is good for 300 miles or so before I really notice it’s there.
One question for you: You haven’t mentioned the shift assist feature yet. I initially thought it was a bit gimmicky, but find it amazing, and use it most of the time, but never into or out of first gear. It’s almost like flicking a switch as opposed to shifting gears!
Looking forward to more ride reports!
Thanks for the feedback on your Triumphs. It is good to hear that other riders are really enjoying them. I just did a video comparing the Tenere to the new Tiger and in it I mention the shift assist. That is a cool feature, and it works very well. That video will be up in a few weeks as there are a couple more in front of it.
So I now have 6,000km on mine and the buzzing has pretty much gone. I found that it was more buzzy over 4,000rpm but if you slightly loosen your grip on the bars it will make a huge difference. Was going to go with a set of Grip Puppies or that anti vibe tape but will hold off for now. Personally I love the seat but hate the windscreen, I am going to have to replace it, just too much buffeting.
I just got back from a three day trip and I did not notice the buzzing as much. The bike maybe getting broken in or I am just getting used to it. Also, the seat seems to be getting broken in as well, I did not have any butt issues. Interesting about the buffeting. I ran a couple hours on the interstate with crazy people at 80 and did not get any. At those speeds the windscreen does shake a bit, but I felt fine and the bike was solid. I was running the screen at the top
I've been looking at the 2023 Triumph 900 GT Pro.
I own the 2023 Tiger Explorer Rally and its been amazing. I have almost 20k on it with no issues whatsoever. I would recommend if you do any water crossings above the axel that you change the shaft oil soon after as water will get into the oil there but its easy to do and a bottle will last you forever (there is a bulletin on putting some RTV around the seal of the breather which I have done but still water will get in there). I suggest renewing the clutch brake fluid after about 10k as the OEM fluid gets really nasty (not the brake side for some reason) and there is a bulletin on changing it from Triumph.
Thanks for the info!
Still rocking my Vision Craig but I'm paying careful attention to your insights on all these sexy new bikes 😜👍
Nothing wrong with the Vision, keep rock'in!
I visited triumph chester last week and i am impressed with the look of the tigers but i asked if triumph will bring production back to uk. Because whilst dont doubt quality will be fine from the tailand factory imo a brit bike should be available from a uk factory as bmw do in berlin and happily they are adding more models to the uk factory including the tiger. They are booming right now over 80000 bikes in 21 the old triumph only eber sld 40 odd thousand so i will be considering a tiger maybe next year my preference would be same as yours but in the satin green trim lovely bike dude
I have been looking into getting an adv and spoke to the service manager at moms and he spoke highly of the tigers, I haven't had the opportunity to ride one yet but plan on it soon
I like it very much so far.
@@LivingOffTheSlab thats good I've spent my adult life on v twin cruisers but want try something that has more off road abilities but still work as a commuter.
One caution I will pass on is that they are tall bikes. Coming from a cruiser and being able to get both feet on the ground, as I did too, you have to learn to ride them a different way.
Great review!
I was the first one in the US to take delivery of the GT Explorer back in July 2022. I got lucky, I traded my 2020 1200 XCX for it in March 2022 and waited all summer with no news on when it would come in. In the mean time I kept walking past the new Speed triple 1200 RR and told my dealer to take the trade of my last Tiger and I would pick it up the next day. As I am loading the RR in my trailer, my GT Explorer showed up and the crate was dropped behind my trailer. I told my dealer that I will pick that one up tomorrow! LOL! 2 new bikes in 2 days! I had the only GT Explorer in the US until late November.
Cool!
That's cool, I had the first 2nd gen XRT back in May 2016. Still have it, too!
LOL. That's awesome. Also clearly your pockets ain't empty xD
@@uttamgala7186 LOL! Staying single has benefits!
@@ttrguy9952 Amen to that brother. Dual income no kids is even better!
Hey Craig, maybe i missed it, but did you just put your old SW-Motech panniers on this Tiger?
No, those went with the Tenere. These are new Triumph branded, by Givi.
No bike is really cheap to maintain. I sorta remember your video praising BMW on how it rides and how little maintenance it requires. Not touting any brand but I have ridden over 100,000 miles in the last 10 years and spent only about $900 on repairs on my HD touring bike. Maintenance was nothing other than normal. Not bad!!!!! Looking forward to your continued reviews on Triumph!!!!!
You are of course correct, none of these things are cheap and I would not have complained about the BMW if it did not give me trouble. I only spent a $200 on "repairs," everything else was routine. Then you add in UHaul and car rental for a week, that was the killer. I would expect things to go wrong at 60,000 miles, not at 15,000. Thanks!
Can i ask was the 1st service free on the triumph as I'm about to buy one like yours...thanks ger.
No, the first service was not free. It cost about $375.
Hay mate , I don’t think they changed the engine to improve the sound , it was more for low end tuque ( for off road ) as the previous triple you needed to use more clutch - which wasn’t good . So hence the 270 degree crank . The previous triple still the the road series like the new 660 Tiger sport I my option does sound WAY better then the new 270 degree engine. BUT I understand why they done it . And yes have heard about the vibs the 900 is the same . Anyway happy trails 👍
That's what I had read, but it could have been wrong. Thanks!
I have the same bike in black with the low seat as well. I think the low seat is very comfortable. I'm going to put the Voight 20mm bar risers on and move them back to the second hole which will bring the bars back 26mm, over an inch. 20 mm is the highest you can go on the explorer without buying front brake line extenders. It would be the perfect bike if it didn't vibrate so much. Nice review btw
I will check out those risers, thanks!
@@LivingOffTheSlab I have them on now and love them. Super easy install took 15 minutes
Got them on order.
I have those risers as well, amazing what that tiny bit of height did for my palms. Love the 23, first bike I’ve owned with Zero buyers remorse.
I'm looking forward to how this Tiger does for you and like I said before, where it takes you. 😁
Hi Greg, quick question, I noticed your coolant level was just above the 'low' mark. Have you found that is where it seems to stay?
When I got mine, the dealer had the level about midway between high and low but now its at the same level as yours. Is this Triumph normal?
Gotta agree with pretty much everything you said in the review.
Cheers
I just went and checked. On the center stand the level is right in the middle.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Thanks Greg. I've only got about 2500kms on mine and we have had a pretty drastic change in the weather from cold to hot and humid. Maybe its got something to do with that. Dunno ... but I will keep an eye on it.
Ride Safe
Cheers
What about the wind trying to blow your helmet off from underneath? I really want one but I am concerned about that one issue. I absolutely love riding it.
I have not experienced and buffeting riding the bike. You do get some wind on the chest and shoulders but that does not bother me. I have been running the shield all the way up.
You mentioned going on a dirt road in a national forest. Does that mean that the exhaust has the magic stamp on it that it's approved for use in a national forest? I know that when I traded my motorcycles and got a Harley-Davidson trike this year that was one thing that I noticed is they caution you that that exhaust is not approved for use in a national forest it doesn't have the necessary Spark arresters so you could end up in deep trouble.
The stock exhaust system is fully EPA compliant. As long as I don't modify that system, I am fine.
If u r ever near Boston, we can do a loop!
Not sure how many more rides we will get in this year, but I live south of Boston. Send me an email.
I love the look of the tiger 1200 but I’m not sure about reliability being a new model. Apart from the o ring causing an oil leak have you had any problems?
Not so far. There are things I that could be better, like the way the TFT screen is organized, but so far I really like the bike. Going on a couple of long trips this year, so we shall see.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Thanks for the quick reply. I’ve always owned Japanese bikes but I’m really drawn towards the Tiger 1200, i think it’s the mid range engine noise. I’ll take a test ride of that and the GSA and see what I prefer. Thanks again.
How stable is it with the cases on at high speed? Have you tried it above 110 miles/hour?
So far it has been very stable. I have not done 110, just 90 plus and cruising above 80mph.
Thanks for the answer! Great video btw!
Since you got rid of the BMW and Vision that were both larger and PASSENGER friendly, how does your wife like climbing on and off this Triumph? My wife stills rides behind me after 42 years but these adventure bikes are challenging to mount and don’t have the space. Also, does the low seat cause you to bend your legs more? Are lowered pegs available? I also don’t think I would wait 10k miles for an oil change. I sold my last Triumph 1200 SE because the dealer is 2 hrs away and they were calling me in for too many software updates.
The bigger bikes are better for two up riding and Cathy does have to mount the bike first, but she makes it. The low seat is only 3/4 of an inch lower and it might cause me to bend a bit more, but I don't have long legs to start with, I am fine and it allows me to get both feet on the ground when necessary.
I have the gt pro. Bought it for all the same reasons. I came back from a tour in Ireland on a FJ1300 Yamaha.
Frustrated following other riders on Tigers through narrow dirt rds and trails.
I am 6'2 with a long reach so I have added a Puig deflector for the screen and no need for risers.
Agree with all your comments regarding handling and engine vibes.
Have read that the explorer mirrors vibrate quite a lot compared to my gt's.
Look forward to your next review with more miles on the clock 👍
Mark
There is some mirror vibration. Not sure why the Explorer would have more. Interesting...
@@LivingOffTheSlab Different design as they incorporate the vehicle sensors.
Because the bike is new, adjust the front end "preload". Turn the screw on each shock all the way to the right, then 1 full turn to the left. Road test it and keep adjusting to your liking. Do this on the rear shock too. Safe Travels. ;)
The suspension is electronically adjustable. I set the damping I want and the preload is handled automatically. Seems to work great.
I was at Moms in Foxboro recently looking at the 1200 gt pro and the explorer. What is your thoughts on the explorer? Any reason you picked the gt pro over it?
I have the GT Explorer. I assume you mean why did I not get the Rally Explorer, the off road version? Personal, I have no delusions as to my ability to ride a 600 pounds bike off road. I have a 250 for that.
@@LivingOffTheSlab after watching more of your videos I Realized you have the explorer. Yah Iv been debating if the larger tank is worth the increased size or if the gt pro is really the right choice
@@matthewcollins7528 After having the extra two gallons, I love it. Filling up and knowing you have a three hundred mile range. I don't have any issues with the extra weight.
@@LivingOffTheSlab nice, well thanks for reaching out. If I ever spot you in the wild I’ll give a shout out
I'm on the Auto side of things. I can tell you auto manufacturers moved to long service(oil change) intervals for no other reason then selling point. It's caused massive issues in for those vehicles. Of course these issues accure after the warranty has run out.
Please don't wait 10k to change your oil, I promise you you'll regret it if you plan on keeping the bike. Cut that in half. Learn to do it yourself and it's no big deal.
Enjoy that beautiful new bike
Hi from Calgary, Alberta. I have 50,000kms on my 2020 super tenere. It’s my 2nd ST. I have a $2200 Mai tenancy service coming up in the spring. I’m debating if I should keep my bike and do the service, get another super tenere at $21,000 or get a triumph tiger explorer 1200 for $27,000. Very hard choice! Love the super tenere but I wish they give it an update. Love the explorer triple engine with quick shifter. I had a baby GS and a F800R. No more bmw for me! Can you offer any advice? Thanks and take care.
For sure the required maintenance on these kinds of bikes gets expensive, but it the bike is running well and doing a good job for you, it is far cheaper to do the service than to buy another bike. I am coming up on the 20K mile service for the Tiger and it is going to cost a couple of grand US. These costs are just part of owning a modern motorcycle and while the Triumph is a bit cheaper on a per mile basis (when you include oil changes, etc.) the difference is not that big that I would switch just for maintenance costs. I would also not buy another Tenere, the bike has not changed in the three years you have owned it. Do the maintenance and keep enjoying it.
On the other hand, if you are just looking for something new and want more power, better brakes, better suspension and all the technology that comes on the Tiger, then that would be a reason to change. All around the Tiger is a better bike than the Tenere and I hear the 2024's are being updated with even more tech (radar cruise, being one thing). So far I have 15K miles on the bike and it has had no major issues. Just a small oil leak from the oil filler cap (solved with an O-ring) and the seat adjustment elastic broke (this is not a good setup). But, those are minor. Everything else has worked great!
@@LivingOffTheSlabthank you for your response! Yeah I’m leaning towards a newer, updated bike with more character and technology haha. I’m thinking if I trade it in next year, it’ll have lesser trade in value and I can use that $2200 on the tiger. The 2 super teneres I owned, hasn’t changed at all. Both the 2015 and 2020. And the 2024’s are all the same.
Thanks a lot! If you’re ever in Calgary, look me up. Take care!
What GPS will you go with on the Tiger ?
Zumo XT.
@@LivingOffTheSlab yes. That is a nice one 😊
Curious about what your wife things. Passenger comfort is really important to me. I also own a victory cross country tour and want a second bike which I can load in the truck and take to different states.
She is not as comfortable, as on a big bike but she is riding with me less now a days, so did not want to buy a big bike that I did not want for my trips. We may have to do something with the pillion seat or try a pad next year.
For all the same reasons l have purchased the same motorcycle, let's see how we go.
LIke the sound of my Wife's Tiger 900GT Pro better than my R1250GSA. But I like my GSA better than her 900.
Do you know what the dealer charges for a valve check?
Around $1500, is what I was told. Seems pretty standard, even the Yamaha was around a grand.
@@LivingOffTheSlab seems so ridiculousy high
Around the same for a Ducati Xdiavel as well
. I have a 1200 GT Pro .
The bike is great apart from a habit of engine cutting out at low rpm .( no , it's not me stalling the bike ) .
I wonder if your bike does this ?
It makes the bike very difficult to ride in town traffic or manouvering at low speed .
No, mine does not do that.
@@LivingOffTheSlab . Thank you for your reply. I shall ask Triumph dealer to look into this fault on my bike .
Dealer can fix this with a software-update. ( info from the English fan-site)
@@joopkerlen8368 . Thanks, do you have the name of the site?
You tube is removing my replies 🤷♂️
I read your comments about how your BMW motorcycle was high maintenance and unreliable. I ride a indian Chieftain 20l6 model. I'm trying to decide what to get between the new model goldwing 2018 and up or the 2020 BMW Grand America. What's your opinion
Based on my experience, I would get the Goldwing. You can watch my 2022 trip videos and see the issue I had with overheating.
I would be very leery of 10,000 mile oil changes for a couple of reasons. 1. Most manufacturers also include a time limit of no more than 12 months and few of us ride 10,000 miles every year so that may well be the limiting factor on oil change mileage. I tend to ride my BMW 5-7,000 miles a year and that fits nicely with their 6,000 mile/12 month interval. 2. Extended intervals often require use of synthetic oil and special oil filters which often cost twice what conventional oil and filters cost, so the 10,000 miles may not really save you all that much money, particularly if you do your own maintenance as I do. If you are paying a dealer to change your oil, then you will save labor cost with the less frequent changes.
Yes it is 10k or 1 year whichever comes first. I would always change oil at least once per year prior to storing it for to the winter. Personally, I am not going to worry about this very much. I am going to follow the manufacturers recommendations and enjoy riding the bike.
I purchased 100% synthetic oil (Maxima) and a hi-flo filter. Did my own service. The motor oil, filter and final drive fluid cost me 97 dollars with tax. 60 dollars to reset the the service light. So roughly 165 bucks for an annual service. That’s very reasonable
@@ernestoluzan I use conventional oil at about $8/qt and Bosch filters at about $6 each. So, my annual service on my BMW is about $38 (excluding final drive which does not need to be done even close to annually) which is far more reasonable than $165. $127, even at today’s $4/gallon gas, is enough to ride 1,500 miles on my BMW. I’d rather ride 1,500 miles than pay money for oil and filters that add no value.
@@LTVoyager I’m not sure what you mean by “add no value”. Synthetic oil isn’t a gimmick. Conventional oil, even at shortened intervals has been proven to lose protection additives and cause higher acid levels on your crankcase.
Dont take my word for it, I send all my oil base types and send a oil analysis in on my truck, motorcycle and atv’s once a year. Time intervals make ZERO Sense. Triumph has a 10k or annual service because they want to make sure people have a line. I’ll sample my oil at one year or 10k whichever comes first to see what my TBN and TAN are. Then and only then, will I set my own oil drain intervals
@@ernestoluzan I did not say synthetic was a gimmick. I use it in my cars and trucks since the 1970s as they get operated often at below zero temps or have turbochargers that run very hot. Synthetic adds value in those conditions. My motorcycles seldom run at temps below 30 degrees or above 100 and none of them are turbocharged. Synthetic adds no value in this operating regime. My BMW K1200LT is approaching 100,000 miles running on conventional Castrol oil. The cams look like new and this is with 6,000 mile or annual changes. Using synthetic in my BMW or my KLR650 would be a complete waste of money.
The front end of the bike shouldn’t dive if the semi active suspension is good. My 1290 front end never dives
So.... Alaska 2023??
We'll see...
How tall are you
5'9" 31 inch inseam.
How does your wife like sitting on the back with the box and panniers? My wife who is quite small finds the box pushes her forward too much and the LHS pannier rubs against her calf and annoys after a while. The RHS pannier if fine because it is set further out from the seat.
The panniers did not bother her, but she did not like the seat. We are going to try a pad in the spring. She did say the top case pushed forward a bit but not bad. The main thing was the seat.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Interesting. I had an airhawk on the pillion seat of my previous bike but the missus wasn't that keen on it. Trick with those is to have the least amount of air in it as possible.
I could not help but notice the Queen's funeral procession was supported by her guard riding BMW motorcycles. And this from the country known for Triumph motorcycles. Speaks volumes, hummmm.
Well the royal family did originate in Germany I believe.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Funny, just having some fun with you. I also like the Tiger 1200.
10,000 mile service intervals are great....until the tranny blows up! Ask someone who owns a Bonneville. The dealer will tell you that the service interval is a marketing ploy. /the service manager will recommend an oil change every 5,000 miles.
I'd just change it myself.
10k service interval…or annually!
Yes...Every bike should be serviced once a year, unless it is not being ridden. I typically do mine before putting them away for the winter.
10k is ok, but as a casual rider you end up being screwed annually, and those maintenance are not cheap, around 500-600$
What de opinion of you’re wife with the change? Because the K1600 is much more comfortable
She has been out on the bike once so far. We will most likely need to do something with the saddle.
@@LivingOffTheSlab We have a K1600 and as you, I prefere a adventure bike, but my wife doesn’t like it. So a have a Tiger 900 rally pro to ride alone
Are you really going to wait 10k to change the oil? Ouch
Yes, 10k or once per year. New bikes use fully synthetic oil. It is the manufacturers recommendation, why would not follow that?
@@LivingOffTheSlab some people still think it's 1975 and that oil changes need done every 3k
Manufacturers say that for environmental regulation reasons. I change oil according to how dirty it looks, which is usually earlier than what they say. Just me.
@@jburnham9109 And some people refuse to read between the lines, thinking in 2022 manufacturers are on the level.
First. LOL. Just sayin'...
Please don't cook that oil for 10k miles😢 Such an easy and inexpensive bit of maintenance.