Chris I always love your reviews, some of the best. The pros and cons line up exactly with what I found, the biggest con to me was really the frequent bottoming of the suspension, especially the rear shock. With a higher spring rate I think this bike would be dialed.
I'm hoping that this video just is the preview for the full 35min version featuring a lot more footage of you two pushing these bikes to their limits! But if this is all we get I enjoyed it regardless 😊
Great video with outstanding riding skills. Congratulations to Neil on his new position at British Enduro Championship, which I can see only getting better under his guidance.
Oh stop it! Every bloody time you compliment a bike that much I ended up trying to get one! Luckily the bank doesn't always agree! Might stick with the Tiger 900 for now..
I don't know how you guys go sideways, but not "SIDEWAYS"! If it were me I'd been going half the speed only to find myself deep in the trees. I got to ride the 1200 last summer at a bike rally (as well as the Scrambler 1200 and S3 1200) - it was a lot of fun. Big ADV bikes are not really my thing, but I can imagine it'd be great for anyone who is. Thanks for the entertainment! 🤟
Thanks for the video. I would like to compare the Triumph with the KTM and maybe the BMW too, on road and off road. Anyway my concern is always the weight, as if you're not an expert biker, that would you put easily in trouble, mostly off road, obviously.
As always, Chris, epic video shots and you make it look easy! My question, however, is how does this stack up to the Multistrada V4, particularly at low speed? I understand the 21" vs 19" front wheels will affect off-road handling, but I'm curious if you were presented with the Triumph and the Ducati MS and told to choose, which would you take (and the orange option isn't a choice! ;-) ) Thanks!
You're a braver man than me, that's for sure. If I had forked out my own money for a Tiger I don't think I would be doing what you were doing, still, nice to know that it can if you want it to.
You need a bigger pom pom. And from a review perspective.. Leaving the bike in a damp shed for a month straight after the beach ride would be revealing. Brevity aside, cheers for the vid, you consistently make my next bike choices tougher. This one really put the cat amongst the pigeons.
Really enjoyed it but maybe not the outcome that Triumph hopes in my case, i have little hope of ever acquiring the skill level required to really enjoy this and similar bikes capabilities 😅
I have been riding my rally explorer mostly off-road now for about 6 months. The bike is so close to being perfect really… HOWEVER outlet of things that makes it miss the mark. 1. Air filter being under the tank and no ability to fit pre-filters is a concern for anyone who rides in dusty conditions. 2. OEM crash bars are purely cosmetic and due to no aftermarket support you have no viable protection options. I have bent 2 sets with slow speed technical riding drops. The bars fail and bend into the bike causing more damage. Probably better off without them, bike would be lighter. 3. Shaft drive is great however the gearing is way to tall… the triples like to rev meaning 6th gear is pretty much redundant. On the explorer that will likely be getting knobbies you will not have tyres rated for the speed it can do. Make the current 5th gear 6th, make the current 1st gear second and add a gear under it. 20kph idle in 1st is nuts… 4. The windscreen jams once it gets dust in the mechanism. Being plastic it will break if you pull too hard. Mine stopped working correctly after 2 months. 5. The rear brake has a high and low setting. It’s needlessly complex and mine has failed, often vibrating 1/2 way (no grip facing up to boot) while riding making braking with the rear hard/impossible as your foot slips off. So close but a massive miss.
Were there some damages left after falling down on sand, scratches etc once you washed them clean? PS. Thanks a million for the video, it's great as always!
Was Neil charging too much for his face to be shown in this edit?! 😅 Good luck to him for the new role, I’m selfishly hoping for some improved amateur level racing, there’s so many fast guys in the novice section looking for the wins that put off genuine novice riders from having a go
Nice bike, I wanted a test on one but my local triumph didn’t have one “available” so it was between the gs 1250 and the ktm1290sa, The ktm I felt was just nuts but overall the bm got me so I bought one. Just a pity this wasn’t available as I really wanted to test the new model.
I've had four 1200 GS / GSA's, one 1250 GSA, a KTM 1290 SA and now a Multi V4s. Tried the new Tiger a few months ago, and compared to the GS, i can tell you: You made the right choice.
@@matsrekdal3065 good news. The bmw maybe isn’t the fastest and the best handling or the best looking but I felt it’s the best overall package if that makes any sense.
@@Crsf84 Correct. The GS is unique as a motorcycle, much due to the Telelever suspension and the boxer engine. That makes it behave like no other bike, and you either love it, or you don't. Most people like it, if they allow themselves totally honesty. 😉
@@matsrekdal3065 coming from a main bike being a zx10r and a f850gs I was a little confused by the lack of feedback but you are correct, I have rode mine in some awful conditions and had 100% confidence in what I was doing to the point even in heavy rain I was covering decent ground completely happy. (with a warm seat😂)
Great review as always. Be aware that once you start putting some miles on the new Triumph Tigers that break down regularly and are unbelievably expensive to maintain. Me and 2 buddies all bought new ADV bikes within a few months of each other. I got a new Super Tenere ES, one got a new KTM 1290 Adventure S and the other got a new Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro. In the first 3 weeks of ownership the KTM's computers failed killing the bike. Took months to get new computers. In the first 18 months of owning the Triumph Tiger it has spent about 4 months in the shop being fixed...computer/computer/computer failures...In 18 months he has only been able to ride 21,000km cause his Triumph is always in the shop being fixed. It is so unreliable, he will be selling it this summer to get a japonese bike so he can ride. The valve service is every 20,000km. That service with an oil change costs $2,000. By comparison, my Tenere Valves are due every 40,000km and that service with an oil change is $500. I now have 52,000km on my Tenere with no issues. So if your rich and only plan to ride 1,000 to 5,000km a season you may only be in the shop 2 or 3 times getting it fixed , but if you ride 35,000km or more a season...save yourself the headache and buy a japonese ADV bike. Cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, not as much power and not as many electronic toys....but really....how fast is your bike and how good are the electronic goodies when your bike is dead at the dealership? Ride safe.
TV pitch: Long Wales Round - you 2 on Triumphs (road bikes would be funnier) circumnavigate Wales off road. Then expand the series. Finally laying to rest the McBoorman nonsense. On a personal note I think big adventure bikes (& elec cars) are w@nk. Although I would have a KTM freeride. So there.
For me (and I'm sure many others) Triumph have ruined the Tiger 1200 by fitting the T plane crank, instead of making it a smooth triple and setting it apart from all the other adventure style bikes, they've followed the crowd, a test ride made me demand a refund on my deposit for a GT Pro, the T-plane crank might be great off road, but I'll bet 99% of all Tiger 1200 miles will be done on tamac, I love the styling and looks, I love the handling, I like the electronics (not a fan of Triumph navigation), but I hate the lumpy, agricultural sounding engine, the screen isn't very good, either wind in your face or buffetting, and the nail in the coffin was the Omen style, number of the beast glaring at you while doing 66 in top (yes I'm a Christian). sorry Triumph, you lost a sale here, redesign the dash, fit a better screen, the 1200 Speed triple engine and I'll be beating a path to the dealer, looking at the amount of low mileage secondhand ones on the market, I'm not the only one who isn't impressed, hate to say it but I think after 9 years of Tigers I'll be defecting to a competitor!
Dude I owned a Tiger 800XC traditional triple engine for years and switched to the Rally Pro. Now this is a proper off road machine. I don't miss the old whistle triple (after years of hearing it, it gets really annoying). A speed triple high rev sporty engine on an off road machine? Sorry, dude, but you are a bit lost. Maybe you can copy and paste your comment on a video dedicated to the GT version of this Tiger. I could agree it would fit better. But for off roading this engine is perfect.
@@KamikazeJoeNYC Yeah, I have been there, I traded my 1600GT for the Tiger 850, before that I had more then 50 bikes including all GS line up from BMW and all hole brands that I can not even remember.
@@BikeWorldTVshow Any day, and you know better than me that for any off road business any median lightweight is better than this, and I don't even have to bring the KTM 890, the Tiger850 with offroad tires will do.
For sale: Triumph Tiger. Gently ridden to church on Sunday mornings and the occasional Bingo night.
Immaculate condition, never dropped
lol lol nice one 😂😂👍🏻
Dealer demo, low mileage.😅🙄
Not buying that bike, all that salt!
P.S. Some shortcuts used en route to afternoon tea.
Chris I always love your reviews, some of the best. The pros and cons line up exactly with what I found, the biggest con to me was really the frequent bottoming of the suspension, especially the rear shock. With a higher spring rate I think this bike would be dialed.
I never thought about it enough, but could I change only the spring on a semi-eletronic (or semi-active) suspension without interfering in the system?
I love that you included some shots of the falls to give us mortals some hope that even the heroes aren’t perfect 👍
Fabulous riding gents - great skills.....loved that!
Man those slow-mo shots on the beach were sick. 🔥
I'm hoping that this video just is the preview for the full 35min version featuring a lot more footage of you two pushing these bikes to their limits! But if this is all we get I enjoyed it regardless 😊
We need to work on the Triumph Tiger Feature Film, starting two nutters! 🍿
Absolutely amazing video
Thanks!
Top production… great stuff. 👍
Great video with outstanding riding skills.
Congratulations to Neil on his new position at British Enduro Championship, which I can see only getting better under his guidance.
Thank you 😊
what I love about Chris reviews - is his genuine love to riding and bike
That background score, though! 🔥🔥🔥
One good thing about shaft drive, you can play in the salt and sand without worrying about chain damage.
the salt destroys the shaft rubber joints as well...
@Wild Racoon and corrodes so many pieces of metal on the bike too. Painful to watch them ride in the sea
I love the dramatic music in the action footage!
Man you guys have one of the best jobs in the world for bike enthusiasts hope it's never lost on you how cool it is cheers guys 🍻
That Triple for sure. Pure sound and vibes on the road, but not the best tugging through mud at 2500 rpm.
I guess Ernie isn't the only one that can try to lose a Triumph in the ocean! Great vid!
I do ride 1200RallyPro, but never thought this bike is capable of doing this stuff. Thanks gents for this amazing video.
Agreed with that engine sound, had this bike two yrs almost and still love hearing that over 5 k engine sound!
The moment I saw the cover picture/thumbnail, my instant thought was: 'That's gotta be Chris!'. 🤣🤣
Oh stop it! Every bloody time you compliment a bike that much I ended up trying to get one! Luckily the bank doesn't always agree!
Might stick with the Tiger 900 for now..
Love this Chris tests. 100 % I hope I bring it back in one piece. Super video. Nice bike to expesnive for working man.
Motorbikes, like cheesey-peas, are awesome!
I don't know how you guys go sideways, but not "SIDEWAYS"! If it were me I'd been going half the speed only to find myself deep in the trees. I got to ride the 1200 last summer at a bike rally (as well as the Scrambler 1200 and S3 1200) - it was a lot of fun. Big ADV bikes are not really my thing, but I can imagine it'd be great for anyone who is. Thanks for the entertainment! 🤟
Thanks for the video. I would like to compare the Triumph with the KTM and maybe the BMW too, on road and off road. Anyway my concern is always the weight, as if you're not an expert biker, that would you put easily in trouble, mostly off road, obviously.
Great vid
As always, Chris, epic video shots and you make it look easy!
My question, however, is how does this stack up to the Multistrada V4, particularly at low speed? I understand the 21" vs 19" front wheels will affect off-road handling, but I'm curious if you were presented with the Triumph and the Ducati MS and told to choose, which would you take (and the orange option isn't a choice! ;-) ) Thanks!
Awesome video thanks. Pretty certain this is my next bike when I'm done with my Super tenere😊
You're a braver man than me, that's for sure. If I had forked out my own money for a Tiger I don't think I would be doing what you were doing, still, nice to know that it can if you want it to.
3:35 Now that is SICK!!!!
Give this man a Tiger 900 RP Bikeworld please. I want to see him do his magic on it.
You need a bigger pom pom.
And from a review perspective.. Leaving the bike in a damp shed for a month straight after the beach ride would be revealing.
Brevity aside, cheers for the vid, you consistently make my next bike choices tougher. This one really put the cat amongst the pigeons.
How about vibrations? Some BMW riders say the Tiger vibrates insufferably. Probably more of an issue on the highway than in this kind of test.
Nice
Impressive video and riding! manufacturers should use your videos as promo as seeing this makes me want a Tiger1200
Really enjoyed it but maybe not the outcome that Triumph hopes in my case, i have little hope of ever acquiring the skill level required to really enjoy this and similar bikes capabilities 😅
🤩
Nice riding
Another nice Review, Chris! makes me want to check out a Tiger and I'm not even interested in one!
Sweet
I have been riding my rally explorer mostly off-road now for about 6 months. The bike is so close to being perfect really… HOWEVER outlet of things that makes it miss the mark.
1. Air filter being under the tank and no ability to fit pre-filters is a concern for anyone who rides in dusty conditions.
2. OEM crash bars are purely cosmetic and due to no aftermarket support you have no viable protection options. I have bent 2 sets with slow speed technical riding drops. The bars fail and bend into the bike causing more damage. Probably better off without them, bike would be lighter.
3. Shaft drive is great however the gearing is way to tall… the triples like to rev meaning 6th gear is pretty much redundant. On the explorer that will likely be getting knobbies you will not have tyres rated for the speed it can do. Make the current 5th gear 6th, make the current 1st gear second and add a gear under it. 20kph idle in 1st is nuts…
4. The windscreen jams once it gets dust in the mechanism. Being plastic it will break if you pull too hard. Mine stopped working correctly after 2 months.
5. The rear brake has a high and low setting. It’s needlessly complex and mine has failed, often vibrating 1/2 way (no grip facing up to boot) while riding making braking with the rear hard/impossible as your foot slips off.
So close but a massive miss.
1090R is proper front end feed back plus a C21 mitas added in
Were there some damages left after falling down on sand, scratches etc once you washed them clean? PS. Thanks a million for the video, it's great as always!
Great skill as always. But really don't see the point of these large bikes off road in uk .
Was Neil charging too much for his face to be shown in this edit?! 😅 Good luck to him for the new role, I’m selfishly hoping for some improved amateur level racing, there’s so many fast guys in the novice section looking for the wins that put off genuine novice riders from having a go
😂
Nice bike, I wanted a test on one but my local triumph didn’t have one “available” so it was between the gs 1250 and the ktm1290sa, The ktm I felt was just nuts but overall the bm got me so I bought one. Just a pity this wasn’t available as I really wanted to test the new model.
I've had four 1200 GS / GSA's, one 1250 GSA, a KTM 1290 SA and now a Multi V4s.
Tried the new Tiger a few months ago, and compared to the GS, i can tell you:
You made the right choice.
@@matsrekdal3065 good news. The bmw maybe isn’t the fastest and the best handling or the best looking but I felt it’s the best overall package if that makes any sense.
@@Crsf84 Correct.
The GS is unique as a motorcycle, much due to the Telelever suspension and the boxer engine.
That makes it behave like no other bike, and you either love it, or you don't.
Most people like it, if they allow themselves totally honesty. 😉
@@matsrekdal3065 coming from a main bike being a zx10r and a f850gs I was a little confused by the lack of feedback but you are correct, I have rode mine in some awful conditions and had 100% confidence in what I was doing to the point even in heavy rain I was covering decent ground completely happy. (with a warm seat😂)
Nice review Chris!
Speaking of changing tires, what do you use personally to swap them? Spoons, Rabaconda, proper tire machine?
Thanks
Sasquatch with long finger nails?
hope to see a indepth review of the desertX
If you had a choice from the Tiger1200 , Harley Davison Pan America 1250, Yamaha super tenere 1200 ?
No brainer. Triumph all day long. St is geriatric and the Harley is a crock of unreliable and poorly engineered American garbage.
how did you guys manage to drop the bike without breaking those handguards???
England ❤
Well if I need I bike that I can just spin the wheels on, this is it.
Well... The noise is not that great. The old 800 sounded much better. I miss that.
Compared to a KTM 1290r....how worse is it??
Great review as always.
Be aware that once you start putting some miles on the new Triumph Tigers that break down regularly and are unbelievably expensive to maintain.
Me and 2 buddies all bought new ADV bikes within a few months of each other. I got a new Super Tenere ES, one got a new KTM 1290 Adventure S and the other got a new Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro.
In the first 3 weeks of ownership the KTM's computers failed killing the bike. Took months to get new computers. In the first 18 months of owning the Triumph Tiger it has spent about 4 months in the shop being fixed...computer/computer/computer failures...In 18 months he has only been able to ride 21,000km cause his Triumph is always in the shop being fixed. It is so unreliable, he will be selling it this summer to get a japonese bike so he can ride. The valve service is every 20,000km. That service with an oil change costs $2,000. By comparison, my Tenere Valves are due every 40,000km and that service with an oil change is $500. I now have 52,000km on my Tenere with no issues.
So if your rich and only plan to ride 1,000 to 5,000km a season you may only be in the shop 2 or 3 times getting it fixed , but if you ride 35,000km or more a season...save yourself the headache and buy a japonese ADV bike. Cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, not as much power and not as many electronic toys....but really....how fast is your bike and how good are the electronic goodies when your bike is dead at the dealership?
Ride safe.
I swear it's almost like warranties and lemon laws don't exist for motorcycles.
@Mellow Jello My local triumph dealership gives lifetime warranty so I don't worry about reliability
TV pitch: Long Wales Round - you 2 on Triumphs (road bikes would be funnier) circumnavigate Wales off road. Then expand the series. Finally laying to rest the McBoorman nonsense. On a personal note I think big adventure bikes (& elec cars) are w@nk. Although I would have a KTM freeride. So there.
Glad I haven't got to clean that crap of them
Why is it all in slowmow
I cried when I put my tiger through a puddle last week
Chris, you didn't say if you would buy it
@teleg-me ???
Don’t take any notice, spam!
this sea drift shortcuts - hurts the bike )
Tiger with lithium ion battery= Liger.
For me (and I'm sure many others) Triumph have ruined the Tiger 1200 by fitting the T plane crank, instead of making it a smooth triple and setting it apart from all the other adventure style bikes, they've followed the crowd, a test ride made me demand a refund on my deposit for a GT Pro, the T-plane crank might be great off road, but I'll bet 99% of all Tiger 1200 miles will be done on tamac, I love the styling and looks, I love the handling, I like the electronics (not a fan of Triumph navigation), but I hate the lumpy, agricultural sounding engine, the screen isn't very good, either wind in your face or buffetting, and the nail in the coffin was the Omen style, number of the beast glaring at you while doing 66 in top (yes I'm a Christian). sorry Triumph, you lost a sale here, redesign the dash, fit a better screen, the 1200 Speed triple engine and I'll be beating a path to the dealer, looking at the amount of low mileage secondhand ones on the market, I'm not the only one who isn't impressed, hate to say it but I think after 9 years of Tigers I'll be defecting to a competitor!
Dude I owned a Tiger 800XC traditional triple engine for years and switched to the Rally Pro. Now this is a proper off road machine. I don't miss the old whistle triple (after years of hearing it, it gets really annoying).
A speed triple high rev sporty engine on an off road machine? Sorry, dude, but you are a bit lost. Maybe you can copy and paste your comment on a video dedicated to the GT version of this Tiger. I could agree it would fit better. But for off roading this engine is perfect.
It weighs a ton, as agile as the Titanic I would say…………..but entertaining 😊
Does it look as agile as the Titanic?
Someone standing on the bow of of the Titanic in charge of navigation: TURN!! TURN!!! TURRRRRRRRRRRRRRN!!!!!!!
Is too heavy... is not worthy, I could do much better with a 850 sport with the good tires and well below of 200Kilos.
Is that a challenge?
Course you could dear.
i traded my 850 sport for the 1200 rally pro. 1200 rally pro ALL DAY BABY
@@KamikazeJoeNYC Yeah, I have been there, I traded my 1600GT for the Tiger 850, before that I had more then 50 bikes including all GS line up from BMW and all hole brands that I can not even remember.
@@BikeWorldTVshow Any day, and you know better than me that for any off road business any median lightweight is better than this, and I don't even have to bring the KTM 890, the Tiger850 with offroad tires will do.