Where the hell was all this detail of battle written down? How can it be possible for scribes to record all this in such detail as to make a video record of events? Really, I'm Dubious!
I never tire of commentary on Spartan warfare .. Thank you so much for all the effort you put into this video . Also thanks for telling the who , what , and whys of the battles . Great stuff Bro !!
While there were only 300 Spartan warriors in the battle, There were a total of 7,000 other Greeks in the pass. When the danger of envelopment occurred, the Spartan King told the others to leave and fight another day. 700 Thespians volunteered to remain and it has been reported that others also remained, including up to 900 helots (slaves of the Spartans) and 400 Thebans.
You're right. Most historians agree that Herodotus who famously wrote about the battle was biased toward the Spartans and in particular didn't like Corinthians and Thebans and so downplayed their role.
@@ferrisbuellertube I always kind of hated how the movie 300 made it out like the other Greeks fled and only then brave 300 stayed when in reality leonides told them to leave so Greece still had a army
As a persian (current iran) the ones win the war write the history.the persians lost but there were surely more reasons for a such loss by persians not a mere 300 souls .
@@h.y1855 The Persians wrote history about their own victories as well, focusing strictly on their enemies' defeats and on their victories. In complete contrast to that, the Greeks though victorius three times against a vast Empire, and though they indeed had every right to brag for their victories, they did no such thing. They managed these victories with maturity as a society, and the Persians with sympathy. This is *clear* in Aeschylus' tragedy "The Persians". This was their worldview: they believed in what they called Hubris, where when someone, overestimating his abilities and power behaved *arrogantly* and offensively towards others, the laws of the state and *above all* against the unwritten divine laws which imposed limits on human behavior, he was considered to be committing "hubris", i.e. he was exhibiting behavior in which he attempted to transcend his mortal nature and assimilate himself to the Gods, insulting the Gods causing their outrage. The examples of the Greeks being taught to avoid Hubris are literally thousands : e.g. the myth of Icarus, not to mention every single tragedy and comedy they ever wrote. I hope you are aware of the huge importance of the myths and the plays (tragedies and comedies) in the life of the ancient Greeks, and how they shaped their societies.
@@ferrisbuellertube Herodotus spent many years of his life in Athens, where he became close friend to Pericles, you know, the one who fought against the Spartans in the Peloponnesian War. Pericles died exactly because the Spartans conducted the first recorded chemical warfare in history, by throwing dead animals in the wells around Athens, causing a pandemic in the city that killed about 30% of its people, including Herodotus close friend Pericles. This for saying that Herodotus wrote in favor of the Spartans. He was just being objective.
Mostly Spartans fought with Phalanx which consistent of Hoplites, as well as all ancient Greek cities. It's the Hoplon (shield) that gave the name to the Hoplite as a unit. In reality the Hippes, meant cavalry men, but the 300 that was at every moment the (one of the 2) King's guard were fighting always in Phalanx formation and never on horse. Sparta had always 2 Kings simultaneously, after 500 BC and later, 1 fighting, the other taking care of internal affairs. Worked 100% fine for many hundreds of years. Two important details, spear was 2m long so easy to kill from distance especially Persian Infantry that didnt' have heavy armour like the Spartans that their total armour weighed more than 40 kilos, closer to 50. (Alexander the Great later changed his Spear to make it 6 meters long, which was really impossible to face as an enemy). 2nd, the shield was not just a round metal unit, had a finish of strong leather part to protect legs from arrows. This is why Spartans prevailed for about 500 years in ancient history, plus their warfare was not based on unit, but on formation fightintg, as each soldier would be tight close to the 2 soldiers right and left from him and the soldiers coming from the back, were pushing the front soldiers with their shields, so that the Phalanx would go only straight ahead, killing hundreds of enemies in minutes. Also another historical fact. Persian Immortals were not of course immortals but replaceable. They were all from noble families close to the Persian King and when someone would die, another person would take his place for the next fight, hence they were always 10,000. The worst movie ever made for Sparta was 300 a few years ago presenting Spartans like an anabolic army fighting without armour, which was so incorrect. Also it's Molon Lave and not Labe. This is incorrect. Plus the whole mod fails to give a good representation of the phalanx warfare, which is shown correct only for 1 sec in 6:52 with a shield wall. Phalanx's advantage was the shield wall, no unit fought alone or away from the rest. That was the important feature that also made Alexander later victorious over the Persians and all other nations when he united the Greeks (except Spartans) towards the Persians. Best novel book that represents exactly the Spartan warrior life, warfare and this battle is 'Gates of Fire' by author Steven Pressfield. Or any good history book. Both the comic, the movie 300 and most of the mentions everywhere are incorrect and pay no respect to the ancient Spartans. Also, historical fact, Leonidas' garrison were 300, but there were more Laconians, which didn't count as Spartan citizens, but could bear arms. So total Spartan army, was about 1000 men. In the end of the battle Leonidas being already dead, was beheaded and buried, something that the Persians were not used to do as they respected enemies that fought bravely, but it was due to Xerxes' frustration that did do. Leonidas' remainings were retrieved by Spartans 40 years later and transferred in Sparta, buried with honours and games and festivies were organized to honour a great man and warrior. His tomb can be visited today close to the main square of modern Sparta and is probably the only remain of ancient Sparta as the city was destroyed many centuries later by a disastrous earthquake. Can see the tomb here: mythicalpeloponnese.gr/tafos-leonida-ena-entyposiako-ikodomima-diastaseon-125ch830-metron/ It's a cenotaph, means it's empty today and can see only from outside. Born and raised in Sparta in 1974, I breathe this history every day. Ancient Hellenic cities are the main reason, why rest of the Europe is not Persian now.
Хиппы - что это, впервые слышу. Кавалерия Спарты состояла из 300 гиппеев, избранных лучшими,среди всех эфебов- спартиатов. Кавалерия называлась " илами".Все вооружение гоплитов весили до 30 килограмм,но никак не больше. Туда входил шлем,панцырь, щит гоплон, защита предплечья правой руки,поножи и возможно, набедренники. Хотя последнее снаряжение могло уже выйти из употребления к моменту 480 года до н.э. Оченьзавидую Вам,как родившемуся в Спарте. Я старше на 10 лет,но всю жизнь собирал литературу про Спарту и всегда был на ее стороне,чтобы они не совершали. С некоторыми историками древности я не согласен,так как они были уроженцами враждебных Спарте полисов. Копья эллинов были длиннее персидских где тона полметра- метр. Метр шестьдеся против двух- трёх метровых гоплитских копий. А у персов,кроме плетеных ивовых щитов, были чешуйчатые египетские панцыри, прикрытые одеждой. Кроме самих персов, в армии находились египтяне, Саки, скифы, союзные персам греческие гоплиты,жители Малой Азии и другие покорные персам народы. Но их перечисленных, воины имел довольно неплохое тяжёлое вооружение. По подсчётам, среди погибших, образовался неустанный отряд в 700- 1000 человек. Историки предполагают, что возможно 300 - это сопровождавшие спартиатов илоты,а остальные - гоплиты периэки. Хотя легендарный случай с случайно уцелевшим спартанцем, страдающим глазной болезнью. Услышав,что все спартанцы пошли в последнюю битву, включая раненных, он приказал своему илоту довести его до сражающихся. Тот довел слепого спартанцы до битвы и УБЕЖАЛ. Спартанец погиб. Персидское войско было никак не меньше 350 - 500 тысяч. А при Платеях эллинов было только гоплитов до 70 тысяч,плюс 35 тысяч легковооруженных илотов и несколько лучников, пращников и метателей дротиков из других полисов. Впрочем, это все знакомо, но мне всегда приятно вспоминать эти славные года в истории.
@@Андрей-с4х7к Μπράβο φίλε για το ενδιαφέρον που δείχνεις στην Ελληνική ιστορία. Δυστυχώς οι πολιτικοί της Ελλάδας δεν κάνουν το ίδιο. Αν ζούσε ο Λεωνίδας ή ο Αλέξανδρος, θα τους έστελναν όλους εξορία ή θα τους εκτελούσαν.
Honor to those who in their lives have defined and guard their Thermopylae. Never stirring from duty; just and upright in all their deeds, yet with pity and compassion too; generous when they are rich, and when they are poor, again a little generous, again helping as much as they can; always speaking the truth, yet without hatred for those who lie. And more honor is due to them when they foresee (and many do foresee) that Ephialtes will finally appear, and that the Medes in the end will go through. Eternal glory to our legendary ancestors 🔥🏛️🇬🇷
According to Herodotus, Darius wanted to punish the Greeks for not honoring their pledge of “water and earth” for his help when they asked for his help in overthrowing their tyrant Hippo. The Athenians eventually did it themselves and didn’t take the pledge seriously when he demanded their help in putting down Greek rebellion in the colonies of Ionia. He saw this as an affront and went to punish them for their treachery. So started the Greco-Persian conflict.
The war began when the Ellenes (Greece and greek are roman words) who lived on the actual shores of Turkey, part of the Persian kingdom, started to rebel against Persia. They asked help to the ellenic cities ( political there was no State, but cities). Only Athens and another small city, Eretria, helped them, but they lost the war and Darius asked who were this Ellenes. Thus he sent a fleet with an army against Athens. The athenians asked help to the Spartans who came late because of religious problems (not Olimpic games), but at Marathon, with only the help of soldiers of Platea (if I remember correct) and all the Athenians soldiers won and the Persians had to retreat. Darius swore revenge and his son tried to do it, this is why they attacked Ellas by land. And Thebe, Argo and other cities, including the Ellenes of the turkish shores, fought or were allied of the Persian. Herodotus
The simple "water and earth" pledge, was not simple at all. It was admission of slave status to the Persians and being at their call. Spartans couldn't be Spartans if they complied. To put it in easier to understand terms: "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!"
Kudos for the realistic animation and story telling! One glaring omission is the explanation of why Darius I invaded mainland Greece (note: the video says the reasons remains "unclear"). The Greco-Persian Wars were in fact instigated by the Ionian Revolt in 498-499 BCE. This is when the Ionian Greeks, then subjects to the Persian Empire and under the governorship of an Ionian Greek Satrap, rebelled against paying taxes andwhat they considered a tyrannical Ionian governor. In the process, Athens whom Darius I had supported against Sparta, sent troops and ships in support of the revolt. The Western capital city of the Persian empire known as Sardis was sacked and burned by the rebels. Darius I hastily sent a punitive campaign over to retaliate against Athens. The first campaign was a disaster as many of the Persian ships were destroyed in a bad storm. The second attempt which landed the troops at Marathon was routed after the Athenians surprise attacked the Persian infantry and eventually returned to Athens before the main contingency of Persian ships got there. Darius I decided to then formally invade mainland Greece but died at age 64 before completing the mission. It was later taken up by his son Xerxes I who succeeded in sacking and burning Athens and defeating the Greeks at Thermopylae, but a year later the Persian army that was left in place under the Mardonius was finally defeated at the desperate Battle of Plataea. Of note, Darius I solved the Ionian Revolt issue by having a democracy instilled and setting up a system of arbitration going forward for the Ionian Greeks. According to Herodotus, the solution was uniformly praised. It should also be said that there is some irony that after the Persian Wars, the Athenians and Spartans were to go to war with each other, each in turn asking for help from Persia. Eventually both Athens and Sparta agreed to the terms of King Artaxerxes II ("The King's Peace"), that in return for guaranteeing peace, the Greek world would recognize that Asia (including Asia Minor and Ionia) belonged to Persia. So, in a master class of sorts, the Persians helped create the conflict then set the terms of the peace treaty. The f irstPersian empire would remain a super power for another 150 years until it was conquered by Alexander the Great in 331 BCE.
You've forgotten SALAMIS. The Persian army was totally dependent on ship borne supply. Defeating the navy left the Persian army with no choice but to head for home. Greece was neither rich in plunder nor was it capable of sustaining the massive Persian army by stripping the country bare. The Athenian Admiral Themistocles lured the Persian fleet into a narrow area between an island and the mainland. Xerxes and his retainer watched the engagement from the heights, and were appalled to witness the nimble Athenian triremes surround the plodding Persian vessels.
Alexander the Great was able to conquer Asia Minor, Egypt, the Achaemenid Empire and East India. He looted, and during several days of extreme festivities, apparently drunk or at the behest of a prostitute, he set fire to Persepolis. Maybe he did this in the war. He burned thousands of parchments and destroyed the walls of Persepolis. And at the end of his 30s, he either fell ill or died due to excessive drinking. During internal tensions and civil wars known as the Diadukhoian Wars, the Macedonian Empire was divided into several parts. Macedonia and Greece were under the rule of Alexander, Egypt under the Ptolemaic rule, and part of Iran's lands, including Babylon, were under the rule of Nicator (Seleucus I), and the Seleucids. The Seleucids, who did not change much to the economic and satrapy system of the Achaemenids and sometimes even considered themselves Gods, ended up fighting with Egypt and Rome. In Syria and Palestine, these wars weakened the Seleucid Empire. At the end of a Scythian tribe named "Perni", who were one of the Scythian tribes, they conquered Parthian land from the north of Iran and were called "Parthians". (a possibility because their name is "parts") Under the leadership of "Arshak I" they were able to conquer significant parts in the north of Iran! ((They fully respected the Achaemenians and were followers of the Zoroastrian religion)) They became known as Arshkanians and "Ashkanians". Over the years and through various wars, the western government of Greece, India and the Seleucids were conquered and ruled. And the weak Seleucids were destroyed by the Romans. Now an Aryan tribe ruled the land of Iran! They were not alone and were supported by people who had a lot of anger towards the Greeks, Macedonians and Seleucids. They were fighting for complete independence! In the end, the era of Greek rule and Hellenism in Iran was lost. And later Sassanids ruled Iran.... Now an Aryan tribe ruled the land of Iran! They were not alone and were supported by people who had a lot of anger towards the Greeks, Macedonians and Seleucids. They were fighting for complete independence! In the end, the era of Greek rule and Hellenism in Iran was lost. And later Sassanids ruled Iran.... Of course, the Parthians respected the Seleucids during the campaigns and conquest of Iran! At the peak of his power!
@@ChrisJensen-se9rj After this battle, the admirals, including Artemis, took positions! (It is a possibility that this happened after the battle) However, the Greeks were able to force the Achaemenians to retreat! During the reign and development period, the Greek admiral Themistocles put so much pressure on the people of Athens and Greece for supporting the Achaemenians that he was exiled. Due to meeting with an Iranian-Achaemenid person, he was condemned to support and have relations with Achaemenids and Ardashir I (son and successor of Xerxes)! However, he tried to be loyal to Greece and the Greek people, and he was! Now the Greeks wanted to kill Themistocles! He brought himself to the court of Achaemenid Ardeshir I! He was even accepted and entertained!
I teach primary. I introduced a Friday activity that was basically rough housing - it was awesome. On the final day of the year, we had Box Wars. All students and teachers made an outfit out of cardboard, and we had a battle. I made a Spartan outfit with a musculatum cuirass, lamda-inscripted hoplon, xiphos, greaves, and crested helm. It gave me the opportunity to turn it into a history lesson. Best day of school EVER!!
Brave, brave men.All men who went into combat, especially those who were outnumbered and knew that they were likely not ever going to see their loved ones again, are heroes. John Wayne said... Courage is being scared shirtless but saddling up anyway.
I am truly appreciative of your work my friend! I never knew the others involved in the battle outside of the Spartans. Your videos continue to improve as well as your storytelling. Thank you for the entertainment and enlightenment.
Actually the final battle at Thermopylae was not roughly 300 spartans + "a few Thebes", the Thebes were 600 - 700, there were fighters from Corinth and a few other cities. In total over 1500 men, not 300 + a few.
@@Jiyukann the final battle Leonidas kept his guard ( about 300) and sent away the others. 700 soldiers from Tespi, commander Demofilus, were ashame to let Leonidas alone and stood there. Leonidas kept also 400 Thebans because Thebe was allied with the Persians. There were no soldiers from Corinto. When the battle began the thebans immediately surrendered, claiming they were allies, but the persians were so angry that killed lot of them. The others were made prisoners and sent to Persia. Spartans and Tespians were all killed. Nonody knows about helots who probably went away before the battle.... Herodotus. In the post there a lot of mistakes.
@@davyjones7177 exactly. Like the Alamo or Custer's last stand. 3 famous battles were the outnumbered gave their lives for the bigger picture. But look at this guys last name... any shock he's team persia instead of just acknowledging what happened 😂😂😂
Well made video. I just wish it was historically accurate. The "pass" at Thermopylae was not a pass like what most people think. It was actually a very narrow stretch of land sandwiched between VERY steep mountains and the sea. Yet, multiple times in the video you allude to it being a traditional pass between two hills or mountains. It would've taken a few minutes of research to learn that. Also, that area is not desert-like at all, but, that's just me being nitpicky. And before anyone challenges my assertions, I've stood on the battlefield at Thermopylae. Though the sea has receded quite a bit, it's still quite easy to picture what happened there.
another thing is : The Persian cavalry shown here are Cataphract and they didn't exist at that time, they were invented by the the Partians a few hundred years later as a responce to Alexander the great if they had been present at Thermopylae it would have been the end of the Greek
A great video. It is important for us to study and understand history. Especially moments in the past like this. I so enjoy Greek and Roman history I even wrote a song about the fall of Rome... something that wouldn't be possible without studying history. Please keep videos like this coming. Thank you for posting!!
Οι Έλληνες μισθοφόροι ήταν οι πιο ακριβό πληρωμένοι εκείνη την εποχή και πριν, λογω της πολεμικής τους εμπειρίας. Οι Αιγύπτιοι τους χρησιμοποιούσαν από την εποχή των Φαραώ όπως ο Ραμσης ΙΙ
Excelente trabajo audiovisual. Gracias. Deseo de todo corazón que tu canal logre el alcance necesario para un merecido reconocimiento y puedas prosperar aún mucho más.
With great confidence, respect for the battle and most importantly a relentless leadership and self determination for the nation and country within Sparta. There he was, Leonidas I
Unnamed Spartan spy: "Their arrows are so numerous, they'll blot out the sun!" Dikenes: (snorts derisively) "Then we will have our battle in the shade!"
When you talk about Achaemenid Iran and Cyrus the Great, it means that the first government that came banned slavery and took it, that is, the first king who in history was named the best and greatest king in the world, who had no slaves, that's why many lands went to Iran without war. Joining, that big land that you see from Iran, if slavery was widespread in it, it would not have a million army and many races like India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and the Arabs would be extinct now, while in the movie Three Hundred King Darius, we are called a murderer. Show and a devil slave owner, right now if you enter the American laws that Abraham Lincoln created about the prohibition of slavery, write his law from the inscription of Cyrus the Great, which is now in the British Museum.The movie 300 was a big insult to us Iranians! Because they changed our entire history and presented it as a lie, and our current stupid government only looked and said nothing and changed our history with the intention of changing it, as an Iranian, I cannot forgive the arrival of our original and best king. Showing a devil, while the Spartans themselves were legally enslaved! And no matter how you see the film, it is clear that they made this out of hatred, the hatred that the Jews have for us,I must mention that Iran was one of the first governments that came, the same Jews who are changing our history now, saved them from slavery and freed them. This action was done by Cyrus the Great, and it is even written in the Torah and the Christian Bible, and so on. In our other historical books! however many false films they make about our history Again, history can never be changed! and in the end it will be clear who was really evil and who was really good!
@@faren0003 bro helot the slaves where not spartans they where mesinian another greek state but not spartans also persia had slaves too but they treated them better than the greeks thats why he was called cyrus the great
True, the Spartans were a small percentile, their presence and enthusiasm for a collective Greek response was key in this assembly of soldiers. The Spartan warrior presence bolstered their allies and were more than key to this stand.
The 300 were few, but Sparta was the only city that could put on the battlefield more than 10.000 heavy soldiers (at least 12000 Spartiates and other thousands of soldiers with other citizens and other thousands helots (in Platea they were about 40.000 light soldiers according to Herodotus). Without them Ellas couldn't fight.
@@oronzobarberio5029 Marathon = 10,000 Athenians and Plateans, no Spartans Thermopylae = Greek fleet led by Athenians, king Leonidas' personal guard, Thebans and Thespians Salamis = Greek fleet led by Athenians, tiny Spartan fleet with no naval tradition FORCED to participate only after extreme controversy Plateae = Greek army including 10,000 Spartans and 8,000 Athenians Alexander's army = Detachments from all Greek states except Sparta
The Persians thought 300 Spartans were bad, they met up with the thousands of the Spartan army backed by nearly 30,000 other Greeks at Platea and even though they outnumbered the Greeks by 3 to 1 the Greeks still stomped them and made them flee.
The war for Xerxes was actually lost one year prior, at Salamis. And Salamis was 100% an Athenian achievement. And the defeat of Darius' invasion, 10 years prior, also was an Athenian achievement.
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The last moments of the Spartans and helping allies were under heavy arrow and stones and spears firing from a distance. Even in lower numbers and between two armies they were still feared by the Persians in close combat. Thus they killed them from afar.
Its what your historians wrote which is all showing spartans true warriors and persians as some peasants, but the truth is no army could stand persian immortal guard back then, yes leonidas and his soldiers were brave as they were persians, I didn’t see this documentary very reasonable in many ways
No army could resist persian immortal guard in the ancient times, greec author tried to honour leonidas sacrifice and bravery thats all, its not reasonable 300 people could stand thousands of elite warriors for a long time, with respect
@@Tirafkan Whatever man. I was not there. You were not there. What we have is the historical documents. And they say that 300 Spartans and a few more allies (about 1000 people) were fighting with a huge army for days doing something impossible. But what we KNOW for sure is: A) Xerxes army was huge and strong. No one said they were weak fighters. But that makes the Spartan resistance an even bigger achievement. No one wanted to fight a weak enemy in Greece because that was against their glory of the victory. B) Spartan's died in that battle BUT it was a devastating "win" for Xerxes that made him reconsider his attack to Greece fighting all the Greek armies at once. That IS a fact.
Excellent video and very good simulation of the battle. The main thing left out was the wall across the pass built by the Greeks. Aside from their armor, the wall protected the Greeks from the many Persian archers
Many other Greeks died there as well. The fact remains that there were more than 300 Spartans opposing the Persians. It's an injustice to only celebrate the Spartans in this.
Great video!! So badass man but may I ask and anyone in the comments please feel free to answer as well, but what mod is this? I’m having trouble finding this specific Persian mod as I’m not laying as Sparta in the Grand campaign rn. Thanks!
Bravo !!! Great animation!! Great analysis!!! Only two comments on the fly . 1. The helmets you show are of the "korinthian" type. The "Spartan" type are the ones in the movie "300" but with the feathers parallell to the eyes for the high ranked soldiers in order to be recognized from afar = Much more advanced that the other helmets. The Athenians had similar ones too. 2. The Spartans recovered Leonidas' body four times dragging him back and forth and finally keeping him between them at the last effort until the end of the battle. The Persians never possesed his body.They've found it after Xerxes' orders underneath the dead Spartans only after the end of the battle not before. And they cut his head off putting it on a stick aside the road to be seen while the remaining troops marched towards central Greece. Stupid dissision by a non the less very great nation...
Actually the Spartan helmets shown on this video are the "pilos" style helmet from the later Spartan period it's decline, and because this is taken from Rome II Total war which is set later than the golden age of Sparta when they wore Corinthian style helmets which is what they wore in the 300 movie. On a side note, the Spartan attendants that were not full citizens that acted as a type of squire probably wore Attic or Thracian style helmets to set them apart from the chosen 300.
another thing : The Persian cavalry shown here are Cataphract and they didn't exist at that time, they were invented by the the Partians a few hundred years later as a responce to Alexander the great if they had been present at Thermopylae it would have been the end of the Greek
I love the way the Spartans get all the credit . Leonidas and the 300 decided to stay with some Thebans .400 Thebans isn’t some Thebans . Also , what about the estimated 700 Thespians and 900 helots that stayed and fought as well .Give some mention and respect to them .
Credit must be given to all participated in battle, but when we are talking about Spartans we mean the Elite Special forces of the time raised from childhood with extreme discipline and fighting skills in highest level. The rest were just regular wariors fought bravely too.
Los Espartiatas o Lacedemonios. Espartanos. Desde muy corta edad dejaban a su familia y se preparaban para ser un guerrero perfecto. Un chiquillo espartano con 14.años.mato a un lobo con sus manos. Ya era soldado. Viviria en cuarteles con mucha disciplina. Y podria dejarse crecer el pelo. Un privilegio de los guerreros.
Battle of Marathon was many years earlier, 490 BC near Athen. King Dareios of Persia tried to invade Greece. The hoplite phalanx of the new "democracy" of Athen (only rich people could get the hoplite gear) crushed that army. That some messenger then ran to Athen to tell the news and died doing that, is likely a fairy tale. Instead the whole Army with their gear rushed in a hurry the roughly 42 km (in just roughly 4 hours!) to Athen as it was still threaten by Persian Navy.
❤Thank you for your good video. Please, just as you make a video about the resistance of the Greeks, please make a video about the bravery of Areobarzan against Alexander. ❤
آفرین داداش خوب چیزی بهشون گفتی من اروپاییهارو دوست دارم تاریخون کانسرن اولم هست. اما بپذیریم اونها در دلشون فقط رویاپردازی میکنن و همیشه میخوان برتر حساب بشن وقایع مسلم تاریخی رو انکار میکنن و با افسانه سازی مانع دیده شدن شکوه رقباشون میشن. کمدی الهی شاهکار دانته رو بخونی یه جاهاییش دانته آشکارا از رقابت و حسادت هوطنانش نسبت به پارسیها حرف میزنه خلاصه هر قدرم کارشون درست باشه این تکبر و تعصبشون رو نمیپذیرم اومدن دست گذاشتن روی نبردی که بزرگترین شکست تاریخ اروپا از ایران بوده و اساس فتح آتن بود و با کارتونو و ادا و اطواری مسخره و دروغگویی میخوان ماست مالیش کنن اگه اونا یه الکساندر داشتن ما شاهای زیادی داشتیم که یونانی و رومی رو به فضاحت لجن مال کردن
Im macedonian from vergina the bjrthplace of alexandros ...we see all the asian kings satraps generals and mmmmmmaaaany others even besus what happend when he kill hes king .the sfeterismim of the persian throne
Damn, war back then was brutal. A bunch of horses tipping over and knifes going into people and what not.. glad to say we have guns now. One pop to the chest or head and you're done, painless. Back then you had to suffer pain and be impaled. That must've sucked. Those dudes got heart, man. Eventhough I personally don't agree with the methodology of the Greeks or Persians, I can certainly say they knew how to give good fighting strategies
The immortals also used to carry the bodies of their own casualties when in battle, making it seem that their numbers were always the same, no matter how many battles they face.
El ejercito griego era de 7000 hoplitas mas los auxiliares.los espartanos llevaban al menos 900 auxiliares de campamento junto con los 300 hoplitas.al final murieron mas de 1000 hoplitas y no se sabe cuantos auxilia.
To add context, “Thermopylae” translates to “The hot gate”. It was called that as it was a narrow strip of land between the hills and the sea that had a hot water sulphur spring nearby. Today the sea has retreated and what was a narrow gate, is now a wide open area.
Wonderful visuals, but topography of Thermopylae is not correct. The narrow pass was not flanked on both sides by mountains, but only to the west. To the east was the Gulf of Euboea, where the allied Greek fleet protected the Spartan right flank against the Persian navy.
The modern battle of thermopyl: -1539 siege of castelnuovo. 3500 spanish tercios against 55.000 otomans, or 1582 battle of cagayan. 40 spanish tercios against 1000 samurai.. or 1520 battle of Tenochtitlan. 400 spanish soldiers against 30.000 aztec
Love the video. You could probably eliminate those texture pop-ins with a script extender add-on. I'm sure that they probably exist for Total War as they do with other games. I've used them with the Fallout New Vegas and 4 mostly.
Was the pass 50m wide at the time between the sea and the cliff at that time footage of it now is that the sea retreated and geography a lot different lots of walls and gullies there now.But if narrow past can see how they held them off.Arrows took them out eventually.Thoughts please
I would have liked to see more maps and explanations, as the animations appear to be quite wrong. . The greek army was not fighting as shown, and the geography of the site was quite different from what appears in the video. Likely a lot of work for you to build that video, but it is more of a fictional movie than an historical document.
There were, at the start: 10,000 Spartans, 7000 Thebans and 1000 Arcadians. The Arcadians were to guard the single track mountain pass. After the Greeks were betrayed, the Arcadians fled to guard their farms, (and were killed by the Persians). Eventually, after fighting back-to-back there were 300 Spartans remaining. They refused to surrender in return for their lives, as slaves. Their heroic defence of the pass gave the Greeks time to gather an army large enough to make a defence and the Athenian ships destroyed the Persian fleet at Salamis thereby ending the Perdian campaign.
@@nighttrain0424 You're not linked to that Goat Herder traitor that gave the want to be invasive Persian army a backdoor pass in this particular Battle are you by any chance?
I have always argued (usually with myself) how wound up I get when all that is mentioned about the battle of Thermopylae is the 300 Spartans. In my not at all humble opinion the sacrifice made by the Thespians who remained behind to die was far greater than Leonidas. The 700 Thespians consisted of their entire army and not just the tiny token force that Sparta sent
Youre calling the 300 Spartan Royal Guards which was the best and elite force of Sparta a *Tiny Token* ??? How nice of you for *Not being humble* but just being rude.
Leonidas picked his best fighters to fight and die alongside him. And the Thespians just shared the Honor with them. And we don't even know if the 700 thespians are veterans or Militia's at that time.
@@Kingmain707 You clearly have very little idea what you are talking about. The 700 Thespians were all hoplites and their entire army, Thespi was the first city state in line for destruction once the Persians got through the Greek army at Thermopylae so their sacrifice was everything. The army that remained behind in Sparta was around 10,000 strong which is what showed up later at Plataea along with the rest of the Greeks to annihilate the Persians so 300 from 10,000 is 0.03% and only a cretin would say that is anything less than a token force. All Spartan hoplites were trained to exactly the same standards and those that weren’t up to scratch didn’t join the army. Leonidas could have walked around the entire army blindfolded, tapped 300 on the shoulder and he would have had exactly the same quality troops at Thermopylae. IS THAT RUDE ENOUGH 🖕
@@Kingmain707 The Thespians were all trained hoplites not militia. The Spartan army was 10,000 strong as was shown when they supplied the largest contingent of the Greek army at the battle of Plataea the following year so yes I would suggest 0.03% is a token force. All Spartans were trained to the exact standards so the 300 weren’t the best troops, Leonidas could have put a blindfold on, walked around the entire Spartan army, tapped them on the shoulder and he would have had exactly the same quality soldiers at Thermopylae. Hope that wasn’t too rude
The movie was was an adaptation of a comix book. Not really historical representation. Although it enraptured the real atmosphere of the Spartans and their death.
Ephialtes was a local shepherd whose pastures were most likely taken up by the Persian army to camp on - and his flocks were most likely confiscated by the Persians for rations. It is therefore understandable that, having the Persian army move out and away, was a matter of survival to him. Even if it meant betraying Greece. However, some Spartans located him several years later and put him to the sword.
"300" were chosen to remain BEHIND as a GESTURE, as much for Spartan pride as to set an example. And these "300" were chosen not only with born sons to carry on their name, but from families that would celebrate their demise for the glorification of Sparta, rather than public displays of grief for what most Greeks would consider a pointless death. And this last stand was brought about by the Greek goat herder Ephialtes and his local knowledge of the Anopea trail, a goat path that he used. Ephialtes guided a picked force of Immortals to the rear of the Greek position, and then promptly demanded payment for his services, which so incensed the Immortals commander on the spot that he ran him through with his sword for his troubles. All this is quite well known.
The Spartan courage has never been doubted but it's always the same old story-- the 300 Spartans.I know this video has mentioned the thousands of others but generally they don't get a mention.It's surely about time the story was amended to give the other Greeks proper recognition.I'm no history buff & maybe I've misread things but I think the 'headlines' re the Spartans needs sorting.
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Where the hell was all this detail of battle written down? How can it be possible for scribes to record all this in such detail as to make a video record of events? Really, I'm Dubious!
Спартанци су срби,доказано.
It's BC you child.
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There's so much context to this war. Man I get chills! Thx for this
One of the most thrilling historical novels on the legendary Battle of Thermopylae is “Gates of Fire” by Steven Pressfield.
Truly epic.
I never tire of commentary on Spartan warfare .. Thank you so much for all the effort you put into this video . Also thanks for telling the who , what , and whys of the battles . Great stuff Bro !!
Each ancient history documentary you create is a gem. This one was especially outstanding!
Thanks @lauricefullmer1804
While there were only 300 Spartan warriors in the battle, There were a total of 7,000 other Greeks in the pass. When the danger of envelopment occurred, the Spartan King told the others to leave and fight another day. 700 Thespians volunteered to remain and it has been reported that others also remained, including up to 900 helots (slaves of the Spartans) and 400 Thebans.
You're right. Most historians agree that Herodotus who famously wrote about the battle was biased toward the Spartans and in particular didn't like Corinthians and Thebans and so downplayed their role.
@@ferrisbuellertube I always kind of hated how the movie 300 made it out like the other Greeks fled and only then brave 300 stayed when in reality leonides told them to leave so Greece still had a army
As a persian (current iran) the ones win the war write the history.the persians lost but there were surely more reasons for a such loss by persians not a mere 300 souls .
@@h.y1855 The Persians wrote history about their own victories as well, focusing strictly on their enemies' defeats and on their victories. In complete contrast to that, the Greeks though victorius three times against a vast Empire, and though they indeed had every right to brag for their victories, they did no such thing. They managed these victories with maturity as a society, and the Persians with sympathy. This is *clear* in Aeschylus' tragedy "The Persians". This was their worldview: they believed in what they called Hubris, where when someone, overestimating his abilities and power behaved *arrogantly* and offensively towards others, the laws of the state and *above all* against the unwritten divine laws which imposed limits on human behavior, he was considered to be committing "hubris", i.e. he was exhibiting behavior in which he attempted to transcend his mortal nature and assimilate himself to the Gods, insulting the Gods causing their outrage.
The examples of the Greeks being taught to avoid Hubris are literally thousands : e.g. the myth of Icarus, not to mention every single tragedy and comedy they ever wrote. I hope you are aware of the huge importance of the myths and the plays (tragedies and comedies) in the life of the ancient Greeks, and how they shaped their societies.
@@ferrisbuellertube Herodotus spent many years of his life in Athens, where he became close friend to Pericles, you know, the one who fought against the Spartans in the Peloponnesian War. Pericles died exactly because the Spartans conducted the first recorded chemical warfare in history, by throwing dead animals in the wells around Athens, causing a pandemic in the city that killed about 30% of its people, including Herodotus close friend Pericles.
This for saying that Herodotus wrote in favor of the Spartans. He was just being objective.
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Very interesting video.
Greetings
Mostly Spartans fought with Phalanx which consistent of Hoplites, as well as all ancient Greek cities. It's the Hoplon (shield) that gave the name to the Hoplite as a unit.
In reality the Hippes, meant cavalry men, but the 300 that was at every moment the (one of the 2) King's guard were fighting always in Phalanx formation and never on horse.
Sparta had always 2 Kings simultaneously, after 500 BC and later, 1 fighting, the other taking care of internal affairs. Worked 100% fine for many hundreds of years.
Two important details, spear was 2m long so easy to kill from distance especially Persian Infantry that didnt' have heavy armour like the Spartans that their total armour weighed more than 40 kilos, closer to 50. (Alexander the Great later changed his Spear to make it 6 meters long, which was really impossible to face as an enemy).
2nd, the shield was not just a round metal unit, had a finish of strong leather part to protect legs from arrows.
This is why Spartans prevailed for about 500 years in ancient history, plus their warfare was not based on unit, but on formation fightintg, as each soldier would be tight close to the 2 soldiers right and left from him and the soldiers coming from the back, were pushing the front soldiers with their shields, so that the Phalanx would go only straight ahead, killing hundreds of enemies in minutes.
Also another historical fact. Persian Immortals were not of course immortals but replaceable. They were all from noble families close to the Persian King and when someone would die, another person would take his place for the next fight, hence they were always 10,000.
The worst movie ever made for Sparta was 300 a few years ago presenting Spartans like an anabolic army fighting without armour, which was so incorrect.
Also it's Molon Lave and not Labe. This is incorrect.
Plus the whole mod fails to give a good representation of the phalanx warfare, which is shown correct only for 1 sec in 6:52 with a shield wall. Phalanx's advantage was the shield wall, no unit fought alone or away from the rest. That was the important feature that also made Alexander later victorious over the Persians and all other nations when he united the Greeks (except Spartans) towards the Persians.
Best novel book that represents exactly the Spartan warrior life, warfare and this battle is 'Gates of Fire' by author Steven Pressfield. Or any good history book.
Both the comic, the movie 300 and most of the mentions everywhere are incorrect and pay no respect to the ancient Spartans.
Also, historical fact, Leonidas' garrison were 300, but there were more Laconians, which didn't count as Spartan citizens, but could bear arms. So total Spartan army, was about 1000 men.
In the end of the battle Leonidas being already dead, was beheaded and buried, something that the Persians were not used to do as they respected enemies that fought bravely, but it was due to Xerxes' frustration that did do.
Leonidas' remainings were retrieved by Spartans 40 years later and transferred in Sparta, buried with honours and games and festivies were organized to honour a great man and warrior.
His tomb can be visited today close to the main square of modern Sparta and is probably the only remain of ancient Sparta as the city was destroyed many centuries later by a disastrous earthquake.
Can see the tomb here: mythicalpeloponnese.gr/tafos-leonida-ena-entyposiako-ikodomima-diastaseon-125ch830-metron/
It's a cenotaph, means it's empty today and can see only from outside.
Born and raised in Sparta in 1974, I breathe this history every day.
Ancient Hellenic cities are the main reason, why rest of the Europe is not Persian now.
Хиппы - что это, впервые слышу. Кавалерия Спарты состояла из 300 гиппеев, избранных лучшими,среди всех эфебов- спартиатов. Кавалерия называлась " илами".Все вооружение гоплитов весили до 30 килограмм,но никак не больше. Туда входил шлем,панцырь, щит гоплон, защита предплечья правой руки,поножи и возможно, набедренники. Хотя последнее снаряжение могло уже выйти из употребления к моменту 480 года до н.э. Оченьзавидую Вам,как родившемуся в Спарте. Я старше на 10 лет,но всю жизнь собирал литературу про Спарту и всегда был на ее стороне,чтобы они не совершали. С некоторыми историками древности я не согласен,так как они были уроженцами враждебных Спарте полисов. Копья эллинов были длиннее персидских где тона полметра- метр. Метр шестьдеся против двух- трёх метровых гоплитских копий. А у персов,кроме плетеных ивовых щитов, были чешуйчатые египетские панцыри, прикрытые одеждой. Кроме самих персов, в армии находились египтяне, Саки, скифы, союзные персам греческие гоплиты,жители Малой Азии и другие покорные персам народы. Но их перечисленных, воины имел довольно неплохое тяжёлое вооружение. По подсчётам, среди погибших, образовался неустанный отряд в 700- 1000 человек. Историки предполагают, что возможно 300 - это сопровождавшие спартиатов илоты,а остальные - гоплиты периэки. Хотя легендарный случай с случайно уцелевшим спартанцем, страдающим глазной болезнью. Услышав,что все спартанцы пошли в последнюю битву, включая раненных, он приказал своему илоту довести его до сражающихся. Тот довел слепого спартанцы до битвы и УБЕЖАЛ. Спартанец погиб. Персидское войско было никак не меньше 350 - 500 тысяч. А при Платеях эллинов было только гоплитов до 70 тысяч,плюс 35 тысяч легковооруженных илотов и несколько лучников, пращников и метателей дротиков из других полисов. Впрочем, это все знакомо, но мне всегда приятно вспоминать эти славные года в истории.
Μπράβο μεγάλε. Αυτό μόνο. Μπράβο σου.
@@Андрей-с4х7к Μπράβο φίλε για το ενδιαφέρον που δείχνεις στην Ελληνική ιστορία. Δυστυχώς οι πολιτικοί της Ελλάδας δεν κάνουν το ίδιο. Αν ζούσε ο Λεωνίδας ή ο Αλέξανδρος, θα τους έστελναν όλους εξορία ή θα τους εκτελούσαν.
A big salute to you for the informative write up. Will try to read the book mentioned. Dr. A. K. Mondal from India.
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Honor to those who in their lives have defined and guard their Thermopylae.
Never stirring from duty;
just and upright in all their deeds,
yet with pity and compassion too;
generous when they are rich, and when
they are poor, again a little generous,
again helping as much as they can;
always speaking the truth,
yet without hatred for those who lie.
And more honor is due to them
when they foresee (and many do foresee)
that Ephialtes will finally appear,
and that the Medes in the end will go through.
Eternal glory to our legendary ancestors 🔥🏛️🇬🇷
Amazing content! You brought me to the total war franchise and with the translations on my native language bulgarian this makes me extremely happy
Happy to hear that!
According to Herodotus, Darius wanted to punish the Greeks for not honoring their pledge of “water and earth” for his help when they asked for his help in overthrowing their tyrant Hippo. The Athenians eventually did it themselves and didn’t take the pledge seriously when he demanded their help in putting down Greek rebellion in the colonies of Ionia. He saw this as an affront and went to punish them for their treachery. So started the Greco-Persian conflict.
H2O is the most important thing in war or peace
The war began when the Ellenes (Greece and greek are roman words) who lived on the actual shores of Turkey, part of the Persian kingdom, started to rebel against Persia. They asked help to the ellenic cities ( political there was no State, but cities). Only Athens and another small city, Eretria, helped them, but they lost the war and Darius asked who were this Ellenes. Thus he sent a fleet with an army against Athens. The athenians asked help to the Spartans who came late because of religious problems (not Olimpic games), but at Marathon, with only the help of soldiers of Platea (if I remember correct) and all the Athenians soldiers won and the Persians had to retreat. Darius swore revenge and his son tried to do it, this is why they attacked Ellas by land. And Thebe, Argo and other cities, including the Ellenes of the turkish shores, fought or were allied of the Persian. Herodotus
The simple "water and earth" pledge, was not simple at all. It was admission of slave status to the Persians and being at their call. Spartans couldn't be Spartans if they complied. To put it in easier to understand terms: "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!"
Lol
@@oronzobarberio5029 Moron, there is NO SUCH THING : turkish shore ??..ANATOLIA THEN WERE GREEK, NOW IS GREEK, AND FOREVER WILL BE GREEK .
Kudos for the realistic animation and story telling! One glaring omission is the explanation of why Darius I invaded mainland Greece (note: the video says the reasons remains "unclear"). The Greco-Persian Wars were in fact instigated by the Ionian Revolt in 498-499 BCE. This is when the Ionian Greeks, then subjects to the Persian Empire and under the governorship of an Ionian Greek Satrap, rebelled against paying taxes andwhat they considered a tyrannical Ionian governor. In the process, Athens whom Darius I had supported against Sparta, sent troops and ships in support of the revolt. The Western capital city of the Persian empire known as Sardis was sacked and burned by the rebels. Darius I hastily sent a punitive campaign over to retaliate against Athens. The first campaign was a disaster as many of the Persian ships were destroyed in a bad storm. The second attempt which landed the troops at Marathon was routed after the Athenians surprise attacked the Persian infantry and eventually returned to Athens before the main contingency of Persian ships got there. Darius I decided to then formally invade mainland Greece but died at age 64 before completing the mission. It was later taken up by his son Xerxes I who succeeded in sacking and burning Athens and defeating the Greeks at Thermopylae, but a year later the Persian army that was left in place under the Mardonius was finally defeated at the desperate Battle of Plataea. Of note, Darius I solved the Ionian Revolt issue by having a democracy instilled and setting up a system of arbitration going forward for the Ionian Greeks. According to Herodotus, the solution was uniformly praised. It should also be said that there is some irony that after the Persian Wars, the Athenians and Spartans were to go to war with each other, each in turn asking for help from Persia. Eventually both Athens and Sparta agreed to the terms of King Artaxerxes II ("The King's Peace"), that in return for guaranteeing peace, the Greek world would recognize that Asia (including Asia Minor and Ionia) belonged to Persia. So, in a master class of sorts, the Persians helped create the conflict then set the terms of the peace treaty. The f irstPersian empire would remain a super power for another 150 years until it was conquered by Alexander the Great in 331 BCE.
The battle animation if from the game total war Rome 2
You've forgotten SALAMIS.
The Persian army was totally dependent on ship borne supply.
Defeating the navy left the Persian army with no choice but to head for home. Greece was neither rich in plunder nor was it capable of sustaining the massive Persian army by stripping the country bare.
The Athenian Admiral Themistocles lured the Persian fleet into a narrow area between an island and the mainland. Xerxes and his retainer watched the engagement from the heights, and were appalled to witness the nimble Athenian triremes surround the plodding Persian vessels.
Alexander the Great was able to conquer Asia Minor, Egypt, the Achaemenid Empire and East India. He looted, and during several days of extreme festivities, apparently drunk or at the behest of a prostitute, he set fire to Persepolis. Maybe he did this in the war. He burned thousands of parchments and destroyed the walls of Persepolis. And at the end of his 30s, he either fell ill or died due to excessive drinking. During internal tensions and civil wars known as the Diadukhoian Wars, the Macedonian Empire was divided into several parts. Macedonia and Greece were under the rule of Alexander, Egypt under the Ptolemaic rule, and part of Iran's lands, including Babylon, were under the rule of Nicator (Seleucus I), and the Seleucids.
The Seleucids, who did not change much to the economic and satrapy system of the Achaemenids and sometimes even considered themselves Gods, ended up fighting with Egypt and Rome. In Syria and Palestine, these wars weakened the Seleucid Empire. At the end of a Scythian tribe named "Perni", who were one of the Scythian tribes, they conquered Parthian land from the north of Iran and were called "Parthians". (a possibility because their name is "parts") Under the leadership of "Arshak I" they were able to conquer significant parts in the north of Iran! ((They fully respected the Achaemenians and were followers of the Zoroastrian religion)) They became known as Arshkanians and "Ashkanians". Over the years and through various wars, the western government of Greece, India and the Seleucids were conquered and ruled. And the weak Seleucids were destroyed by the Romans.
Now an Aryan tribe ruled the land of Iran! They were not alone and were supported by people who had a lot of anger towards the Greeks, Macedonians and Seleucids. They were fighting for complete independence! In the end, the era of Greek rule and Hellenism in Iran was lost. And later Sassanids ruled Iran....
Now an Aryan tribe ruled the land of Iran! They were not alone and were supported by people who had a lot of anger towards the Greeks, Macedonians and Seleucids. They were fighting for complete independence! In the end, the era of Greek rule and Hellenism in Iran was lost. And later Sassanids ruled Iran.... Of course, the Parthians respected the Seleucids during the campaigns and conquest of Iran! At the peak of his power!
@@ChrisJensen-se9rj After this battle, the admirals, including Artemis, took positions! (It is a possibility that this happened after the battle) However, the Greeks were able to force the Achaemenians to retreat! During the reign and development period, the Greek admiral Themistocles put so much pressure on the people of Athens and Greece for supporting the Achaemenians that he was exiled. Due to meeting with an Iranian-Achaemenid person, he was condemned to support and have relations with Achaemenids and Ardashir I (son and successor of Xerxes)! However, he tried to be loyal to Greece and the Greek people, and he was! Now the Greeks wanted to kill Themistocles! He brought himself to the court of Achaemenid Ardeshir I! He was even accepted and entertained!
Also they would have choked off any trade or growth in the area outside of their control. Troops are fed and kept and the “enemy” isn’t able to grow
I teach primary.
I introduced a Friday activity that was basically rough housing - it was awesome.
On the final day of the year, we had Box Wars. All students and teachers made an outfit out of cardboard, and we had a battle.
I made a Spartan outfit with a musculatum cuirass, lamda-inscripted hoplon, xiphos, greaves, and crested helm. It gave me the opportunity to turn it into a history lesson.
Best day of school EVER!!
Brave, brave men.All men who went into combat, especially those who were outnumbered and knew that they were likely not ever going to see their loved ones again, are heroes. John Wayne said... Courage is being scared shirtless but saddling up anyway.
How many dead and wounded ?
@@gangoffour6690
0 deaths
Surprisingly few wounds.
Man, wish I had you for a teacher, that's awesome
@@Chebab-Chebab core memories
I am truly appreciative of your work my friend! I never knew the others involved in the battle outside of the Spartans. Your videos continue to improve as well as your storytelling. Thank you for the entertainment and enlightenment.
Thanks!
Actually the final battle at Thermopylae was not roughly 300 spartans + "a few Thebes", the Thebes were 600 - 700, there were fighters from Corinth and a few other cities. In total over 1500 men, not 300 + a few.
@@Jiyukann the final battle Leonidas kept his guard ( about 300) and sent away the others. 700 soldiers from Tespi, commander Demofilus, were ashame to let Leonidas alone and stood there. Leonidas kept also 400 Thebans because Thebe was allied with the Persians. There were no soldiers from Corinto. When the battle began the thebans immediately surrendered, claiming they were allies, but the persians were so angry that killed lot of them. The others were made prisoners and sent to Persia. Spartans and Tespians were all killed. Nonody knows about helots who probably went away before the battle.... Herodotus. In the post there a lot of mistakes.
And Macedonian war elephants with towers?
@@albertocastillo5763 They had them in Star Wars. That's where they got the idea.
Great work! This 300 magical number keeps resurfacing to make this lost war by Spartan beyond mythical!
Except that they won the war?
@@davyjones7177 exactly. Like the Alamo or Custer's last stand. 3 famous battles were the outnumbered gave their lives for the bigger picture. But look at this guys last name... any shock he's team persia instead of just acknowledging what happened 😂😂😂
300 Spartans with their helpers and 700 THESPIANS don't forget the THESPIANS
YOU JUST FORGOT 400 THEBANS
@@200pumbThe Thebans surrendered though
DNA results came back yesterday and turns out I'm 6% Greek, now I must know all history
So read old books and not these films
Who did your DNA analysis ?
@@gangoffour6690 My Heritage, they must just be nz though
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@@Chromecast_Eternal and 94% ???
Well made video. I just wish it was historically accurate. The "pass" at Thermopylae was not a pass like what most people think. It was actually a very narrow stretch of land sandwiched between VERY steep mountains and the sea. Yet, multiple times in the video you allude to it being a traditional pass between two hills or mountains. It would've taken a few minutes of research to learn that. Also, that area is not desert-like at all, but, that's just me being nitpicky.
And before anyone challenges my assertions, I've stood on the battlefield at Thermopylae. Though the sea has receded quite a bit, it's still quite easy to picture what happened there.
I apologize for some system limitations about the battlefield itself
another thing is : The Persian cavalry shown here are Cataphract and they didn't exist at that time, they were invented by the the Partians a few hundred years later as a responce to Alexander the great if they had been present at Thermopylae it would have been the end of the Greek
A great video. It is important for us to study and understand history. Especially moments in the past like this. I so enjoy Greek and Roman history I even wrote a song about the fall of Rome... something that wouldn't be possible without studying history.
Please keep videos like this coming. Thank you for posting!!
Thanks for your support, more will come
Gran Persia con Ciro. Y Con el Gran Dario. Admirado por los mismos griegos. En el ejercito Persa ivan muchos Mercenarios Griegos de Asia.
Οι Έλληνες μισθοφόροι ήταν οι πιο ακριβό πληρωμένοι εκείνη την εποχή και πριν, λογω της πολεμικής τους εμπειρίας. Οι Αιγύπτιοι τους χρησιμοποιούσαν από την εποχή των Φαραώ όπως ο Ραμσης ΙΙ
Persia great, but Greece even greater.
Excellent post, thank you for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for uploading these! I used to watch stuff like this all the time on History channel... when they showed actual history. :(
Thanks for the support. Much appreciated
You mean Pawn Stars is not real history? 😉
Sassanid cataphracts and Greek hepteres are shown at the beginning of the video. There are no mention of them in ancient sources for this wars.
And you call THIS real history? Now I have seen the whole video and it is incredibly full of nonsense and invented facts that never took place
And you call THIS real history? Now I have seen the whole video and it is incredibly full of nonsense and invented facts that never took place
This video is important to me. Thank You!
You are welcome!
Excelente trabajo audiovisual. Gracias. Deseo de todo corazón que tu canal logre el alcance necesario para un merecido reconocimiento y puedas prosperar aún mucho más.
Looks really good! I got a battle suggestion, do The Battle of Pharsalus!
Fantastic and great to see others than just the Spartans (as deserved as it is) receive credit
Liked: "Leonidas was eventually killed, and a skirmish broke out around him" LOL
Me: Wasn't this a Super-skirmish broken out all around them? LOLOL
With great confidence, respect for the battle and most importantly a relentless leadership and self determination for the nation and country within Sparta. There he was, Leonidas I
Thermopylae was Leonidas' own achievement though, not Sparta's.
Au fost foarte bine antrenați și au cunoscut bine teritoriul lor și l-au aparat cu prețul .
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Well done, Aditu Laudis, great Job!!!
Thank you for uploading this magnificent Video!!!
Thanks a lot!
underrated channel man why does this video only have 4.8k likes?!
Like comment and share. It will help with visibility
😍 really nice i love it👌🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Glad you like it!
The animation is superb, breathtaking. Very realistic. Great job.
Thank you very much!
This comes from total war rome 2...
Awesome video as always 😎
Thank you 👍
A pleasure
Great video as always 😎
Thank you
6:00 hmm i think Spartans did not have the "Λ" yet in the shields...it was set after this
History: Thebe was there, fighting with the 300 Spartan.
Popular modern culture: Spartan was there only.
Unnamed Spartan spy: "Their arrows are so numerous, they'll blot out the sun!"
Dikenes: (snorts derisively) "Then we will have our battle in the shade!"
Didn't we ALL learn that in elementary school?....
That was my favorite line from the movie.
Great Video. Thanks for all the additional info.
A pleasure. Thanks for watching
Awesome video! I hope that one day, I will be able to record this propperly! :D
I enjoyed your video; however, between 300 and 500 helots died. The helots were basically slaves and had no choice in their fate.
When you talk about Achaemenid Iran and Cyrus the Great, it means that the first government that came banned slavery and took it, that is, the first king who in history was named the best and greatest king in the world, who had no slaves, that's why many lands went to Iran without war. Joining, that big land that you see from Iran, if slavery was widespread in it, it would not have a million army and many races like India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and the Arabs would be extinct now, while in the movie Three Hundred King Darius, we are called a murderer. Show and a devil slave owner, right now if you enter the American laws that Abraham Lincoln created about the prohibition of slavery, write his law from the inscription of Cyrus the Great, which is now in the British Museum.The movie 300 was a big insult to us Iranians! Because they changed our entire history and presented it as a lie, and our current stupid government only looked and said nothing and changed our history with the intention of changing it, as an Iranian, I cannot forgive the arrival of our original and best king. Showing a devil, while the Spartans themselves were legally enslaved! And no matter how you see the film, it is clear that they made this out of hatred, the hatred that the Jews have for us,I must mention that Iran was one of the first governments that came, the same Jews who are changing our history now, saved them from slavery and freed them. This action was done by Cyrus the Great, and it is even written in the Torah and the Christian Bible, and so on. In our other historical books! however many false films they make about our history Again,
history can never be changed!
and in the end it will be clear who was really evil and who was really good!
And also 800 Thespians
@@xaralampos-vasileiosvamvak8053 yea we know aditu already said it
@@faren0003 bro helot the slaves where not spartans they where mesinian another greek state but not spartans also persia had slaves too but they treated them better than the greeks thats why he was called cyrus the great
So how did he cause that
It's just not the same without Michael Fassbender shouting "This is Sparta!" every 2 minutes.
Haha
Great Stuff.Thank you for this great "cast".
Thanks for watching
Another great piece of work. I just recently discovered your channel. Fantastic.
True, the Spartans were a small percentile, their presence and enthusiasm for a collective Greek response was key in this assembly of soldiers. The Spartan warrior presence bolstered their allies and were more than key to this stand.
The 300 were few, but Sparta was the only city that could put on the battlefield more than 10.000 heavy soldiers (at least 12000 Spartiates and other thousands of soldiers with other citizens and other thousands helots (in Platea they were about 40.000 light soldiers according to Herodotus). Without them Ellas couldn't fight.
@@oronzobarberio5029
Marathon = 10,000 Athenians and Plateans, no Spartans
Thermopylae = Greek fleet led by Athenians, king Leonidas' personal guard, Thebans and Thespians
Salamis = Greek fleet led by Athenians, tiny Spartan fleet with no naval tradition FORCED to participate only after extreme controversy
Plateae = Greek army including 10,000 Spartans and 8,000 Athenians
Alexander's army = Detachments from all Greek states except Sparta
Useless answer. Better things to do. Read better Herodotus and correct numbers
@@oronzobarberio5029 What exactly is "useless" in my reply?
Do you disagree that it was the Athenians that beat Persia?
@@geogeo2299 read better ad correct the numbers.
Regardless of details, it's obvious that some soldiers are badass and will fight to the death. How great is that.
I'm very proud of the Spartans, Blessed Be.
The Persians thought 300 Spartans were bad, they met up with the thousands of the Spartan army backed by nearly 30,000 other Greeks at Platea and even though they outnumbered the Greeks by 3 to 1 the Greeks still stomped them and made them flee.
The war for Xerxes was actually lost one year prior, at Salamis.
And Salamis was 100% an Athenian achievement.
And the defeat of Darius' invasion, 10 years prior, also was an Athenian achievement.
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The last moments of the Spartans and helping allies were under heavy arrow and stones and spears firing from a distance.
Even in lower numbers and between two armies they were still feared by the Persians in close combat.
Thus they killed them from afar.
🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷Οι ήρωες πολεμάνε ωπος οι Έλληνες 🇬🇷
Its what your historians wrote which is all showing spartans true warriors and persians as some peasants, but the truth is no army could stand persian immortal guard back then, yes leonidas and his soldiers were brave as they were persians, I didn’t see this documentary very reasonable in many ways
No army could resist persian immortal guard in the ancient times, greec author tried to honour leonidas sacrifice and bravery thats all, its not reasonable 300 people could stand thousands of elite warriors for a long time, with respect
@@Tirafkan It seems that TH-cam doesn't want me to give you an answer. It keeps deleting my comments.
. TH-cam can't handle the truth.
@@Tirafkan Whatever man.
I was not there.
You were not there.
What we have is the historical documents.
And they say that 300 Spartans and a few more allies (about 1000 people) were fighting with a huge army for days doing something impossible.
But what we KNOW for sure is:
A) Xerxes army was huge and strong. No one said they were weak fighters. But that makes the Spartan resistance an even bigger achievement. No one wanted to fight a weak enemy in Greece because that was against their glory of the victory.
B) Spartan's died in that battle BUT it was a devastating "win" for Xerxes that made him reconsider his attack to Greece fighting all the Greek armies at once. That IS a fact.
Great video enjoyed watching it
Glad you enjoyed it
El Rey Demaratos. Estaba con Jerjes el Rey Persa. Y le dijo que los Espartanos aunque se quedarán solos lucharían hasta la Muerte.
This video fire🔥🔥
Great video. Great animation. I like to study ancient civilizations
Excellent video and very good simulation of the battle. The main thing left out was the wall across the pass built by the Greeks. Aside from their armor, the wall protected the Greeks from the many Persian archers
The simulation was awful, there was no phalanx represented.
"Non shell pass!" The brave Leonidas and the 300 Spartans didn't die they still lived on in story!
@@jaysartori9032 no. They made it all the way through to Zurkaesthe Persian king but they would not surrender to him and died bravely
They all died and Persians won
@@Techtalk2030they got pushed out of Greece what are you talking about😭
@@1aidan-1 Persians defeated the 300 spartans
@ the 300 Spartans held them off long enough for the rest of Greece to unite and they pushed the Persians out of Greece
awesome as always : D
Thank you! Cheers!
Many other Greeks died there as well. The fact remains that there were more than 300 Spartans opposing the Persians. It's an injustice to only celebrate the Spartans in this.
There were more than 300 Spartan and it's mentioned
Great video!! So badass man but may I ask and anyone in the comments please feel free to answer as well, but what mod is this? I’m having trouble finding this specific Persian mod as I’m not laying as Sparta in the Grand campaign rn. Thanks!
Great video thanks for the opportunity to watch it..👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bravo !!! Great animation!! Great analysis!!!
Only two comments on the fly .
1. The helmets you show are of the "korinthian" type. The "Spartan" type are the ones in the movie "300" but with the feathers parallell to the eyes for the high ranked soldiers in order to be recognized from afar = Much more advanced that the other helmets. The Athenians had similar ones too.
2. The Spartans recovered Leonidas' body four times dragging him back and forth and finally keeping him between them at the last effort until the end of the battle. The Persians never possesed his body.They've found it after Xerxes' orders underneath the dead Spartans only after the end of the battle not before. And they cut his head off putting it on a stick aside the road to be seen while the remaining troops marched towards central Greece. Stupid dissision by a non the less very great nation...
Actually the Spartan helmets shown on this video are the "pilos" style helmet from the later Spartan period it's decline, and because this is taken from Rome II Total war which is set later than the golden age of Sparta when they wore Corinthian style helmets which is what they wore in the 300 movie. On a side note, the Spartan attendants that were not full citizens that acted as a type of squire probably wore Attic or Thracian style helmets to set them apart from the chosen 300.
another thing : The Persian cavalry shown here are Cataphract and they didn't exist at that time, they were invented by the the Partians a few hundred years later as a responce to Alexander the great if they had been present at Thermopylae it would have been the end of the Greek
*decision
No one is mentioning the fact that Rome II Total War can't do the phalanx formation.
Superb. Will you make The Battle Of Pelusium next ? Cheers from Poland ;).
Thanks for the suggestion.
This is said to be history's most epic last stand. How glorious it would have been to die at Thermopylae and be remembered in honour forever!
Though you wouldn't be remembered, that is just your inner imagination worshiping itself. But no one would know of you.
@@Douglas.Scott.McCarronyep the only one who got remembered was leonidas
@@yingames275 And all he did was get killed.
A new time of heroes have arisen, never have Europe been in greater danger, play your part
Lol what a bunch of romantics
Great video
I love the way the Spartans get all the credit . Leonidas and the 300 decided to stay with some Thebans .400 Thebans isn’t some Thebans . Also , what about the estimated 700 Thespians and 900 helots that stayed and fought as well .Give some mention and respect to them .
Credit must be given to all participated in battle, but when we are talking about Spartans we mean the Elite Special forces of the time raised from childhood with extreme discipline and fighting skills in highest level. The rest were just regular wariors fought bravely too.
Los Espartiatas o Lacedemonios. Espartanos. Desde muy corta edad dejaban a su familia y se preparaban para ser un guerrero perfecto. Un chiquillo espartano con 14.años.mato a un lobo con sus manos. Ya era soldado. Viviria en cuarteles con mucha disciplina. Y podria dejarse crecer el pelo. Un privilegio de los guerreros.
Muy pocos Griegos saben todas las detalles que escribes amigo... felicitaciones de un griego
300 Spartans and almost 4000 greeks hold the line at the Thermopylae.
The Battle of Thermopylae is famous for the bravery of the Spartans and their Greek allies.
14:02 There were no war elephants at Thermopylae.
IS THIS WHERE THE SAYING COMES FROM, " TO RUN A MARATHON" THE MESSENGER,. 200 MILES ?
Battle of Marathon was many years earlier, 490 BC near Athen. King Dareios of Persia tried to invade Greece. The hoplite phalanx of the new "democracy" of Athen (only rich people could get the hoplite gear) crushed that army. That some messenger then ran to Athen to tell the news and died doing that, is likely a fairy tale. Instead the whole Army with their gear rushed in a hurry the roughly 42 km (in just roughly 4 hours!) to Athen as it was still threaten by Persian Navy.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.
Ahoo!
Incredible bravery and service to the people of Greece..
❤Thank you for your good video. Please, just as you make a video about the resistance of the Greeks, please make a video about the bravery of Areobarzan against Alexander. ❤
آفرین داداش خوب چیزی بهشون گفتی من اروپاییهارو دوست دارم تاریخون کانسرن اولم هست. اما بپذیریم اونها در دلشون فقط رویاپردازی میکنن و همیشه میخوان برتر حساب بشن وقایع مسلم تاریخی رو انکار میکنن و با افسانه سازی مانع دیده شدن شکوه رقباشون میشن. کمدی الهی شاهکار دانته رو بخونی یه جاهاییش دانته آشکارا از رقابت و حسادت هوطنانش نسبت به پارسیها حرف میزنه خلاصه هر قدرم کارشون درست باشه این تکبر و تعصبشون رو نمیپذیرم اومدن دست گذاشتن روی نبردی که بزرگترین شکست تاریخ اروپا از ایران بوده و اساس فتح آتن بود و با کارتونو و ادا و اطواری مسخره و دروغگویی میخوان ماست مالیش کنن اگه اونا یه الکساندر داشتن ما شاهای زیادی داشتیم که یونانی و رومی رو به فضاحت لجن مال کردن
Im macedonian from vergina the bjrthplace of alexandros ...we see all the asian kings satraps generals and mmmmmmaaaany others even besus what happend when he kill hes king .the sfeterismim of the persian throne
What is the song starting at 6:12 and ending at 8:37?
But really, is there a name?
Elephants in thermopylae? Is it documented?
I don't think so.
Next post we'll see their drones........
Damn, war back then was brutal. A bunch of horses tipping over and knifes going into people and what not.. glad to say we have guns now. One pop to the chest or head and you're done, painless. Back then you had to suffer pain and be impaled. That must've sucked. Those dudes got heart, man. Eventhough I personally don't agree with the methodology of the Greeks or Persians, I can certainly say they knew how to give good fighting strategies
The immortals also used to carry the bodies of their own casualties when in battle, making it seem that their numbers were always the same, no matter how many battles they face.
El ejercito griego era de 7000 hoplitas mas los auxiliares.los espartanos llevaban al menos 900 auxiliares de campamento junto con los 300 hoplitas.al final murieron mas de 1000 hoplitas y no se sabe cuantos auxilia.
To add context, “Thermopylae” translates to “The hot gate”.
It was called that as it was a narrow strip of land between the hills and the sea that had a hot water sulphur spring nearby.
Today the sea has retreated and what was a narrow gate, is now a wide open area.
It’s a bit Spartan must be the biggest compliment you can give anywhere.
Wonderful visuals, but topography of Thermopylae is not correct. The narrow pass was not flanked on both sides by mountains, but only to the west. To the east was the Gulf of Euboea, where the allied Greek fleet protected the Spartan right flank against the Persian navy.
А еще не забывайте о союзниках из других элинских городов, которых было около 6000 человек.
The modern battle of thermopyl:
-1539 siege of castelnuovo. 3500 spanish tercios against 55.000 otomans, or
1582 battle of cagayan. 40 spanish tercios against 1000 samurai.. or
1520 battle of Tenochtitlan. 400 spanish soldiers against 30.000 aztec
One minor detail: the Spanish were fighting with firearms while their opponents were not.
Love the video. You could probably eliminate those texture pop-ins with a script extender add-on. I'm sure that they probably exist for Total War as they do with other games. I've used them with the Fallout New Vegas and 4 mostly.
Which texture pop-ins? And not aware of any mods that do that. This is not Fallout lol
Amazing to see Seleucid elephants. Where are these mentioned in history? And the Immortals are Saxons? Or Vikings?
Was the pass 50m wide at the time between the sea and the cliff at that time footage of it now is that the sea retreated and geography a lot different lots of walls and gullies there now.But if narrow past can see how they held them off.Arrows took them out eventually.Thoughts please
Great job. Thank you for acknowledging the rest of the Greek allies.
Glad you liked it!
It were more than 300 Spartans. There were roughly 8000 Greek defenders from a variety of city states.
And they retreated after persians surrounded them . Leonidas and his guard ( 300) stayed
I would have liked to see more maps and explanations, as the animations appear to be quite wrong. . The greek army was not fighting as shown, and the geography of the site was quite different from what appears in the video. Likely a lot of work for you to build that video, but it is more of a fictional movie than an historical document.
This is due to the limitatiom of the animation engine. The perfect battlemap doesn't exist
9:29 anyone else see that poor dude jump into that spear😭😂
Rip
The Persian Army had no elephants at Thermopylae. Interesting video otherwise.
How do you know they didn't? Was you there?
Actually, I was there. Where were you?
Elephant riders participated in the wars of Sassanid army (Iran) and Muslim Arabs, not in this war
There were, at the start: 10,000 Spartans, 7000 Thebans and 1000 Arcadians. The Arcadians were to guard the single track mountain pass. After the Greeks were betrayed, the Arcadians fled to guard their farms, (and were killed by the Persians). Eventually, after fighting back-to-back there were 300 Spartans remaining. They refused to surrender in return for their lives, as slaves. Their heroic defence of the pass gave the Greeks time to gather an army large enough to make a defence and the Athenian ships destroyed the Persian fleet at Salamis thereby ending the Perdian campaign.
That much is True, Yiasas Patrida! 💪✝️🔯💯👁️
What about Modern Day Times?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING????? 10000 spartans at Thermopylae, you muppet
Absolutely incorrect.
@@nighttrain0424 You're not linked to that Goat Herder traitor that gave the want to be invasive Persian army a backdoor pass in this particular Battle are you by any chance?
@@Kupsalie you're not twelve years old with an iq of 85, are you?
I have always argued (usually with myself) how wound up I get when all that is mentioned about the battle of Thermopylae is the 300 Spartans.
In my not at all humble opinion the sacrifice made by the Thespians who remained behind to die was far greater than Leonidas.
The 700 Thespians consisted of their entire army and not just the tiny token force that Sparta sent
Youre calling the 300 Spartan Royal Guards which was the best and elite force of Sparta a *Tiny Token* ???
How nice of you for *Not being humble* but just being rude.
Leonidas picked his best fighters to fight and die alongside him. And the Thespians just shared the Honor with them. And we don't even know if the 700 thespians are veterans or Militia's at that time.
@@Kingmain707 You clearly have very little idea what you are talking about.
The 700 Thespians were all hoplites and their entire army, Thespi was the first city state in line for destruction once the Persians got through the Greek army at Thermopylae so their sacrifice was everything.
The army that remained behind in Sparta was around 10,000 strong which is what showed up later at Plataea along with the rest of the Greeks to annihilate the Persians so 300 from 10,000 is 0.03% and only a cretin would say that is anything less than a token force.
All Spartan hoplites were trained to exactly the same standards and those that weren’t up to scratch didn’t join the army.
Leonidas could have walked around the entire army blindfolded, tapped 300 on the shoulder and he would have had exactly the same quality troops at Thermopylae.
IS THAT RUDE ENOUGH 🖕
@@Kingmain707 The Thespians were all trained hoplites not militia.
The Spartan army was 10,000 strong as was shown when they supplied the largest contingent of the Greek army at the battle of Plataea the following year so yes I would suggest 0.03% is a token force.
All Spartans were trained to the exact standards so the 300 weren’t the best troops, Leonidas could have put a blindfold on, walked around the entire Spartan army, tapped them on the shoulder and he would have had exactly the same quality soldiers at Thermopylae.
Hope that wasn’t too rude
This little video was more realistic than the movie 300. I'm sure traitor Ehpialtes was not a bald muscular hunchback
The movie was was an adaptation of a comix book.
Not really historical representation.
Although it enraptured the real atmosphere of the Spartans and their death.
Ephialtes was a local shepherd whose pastures were most likely taken up by the Persian army to camp on - and his flocks were most likely confiscated by the Persians for rations.
It is therefore understandable that, having the Persian army move out and away, was a matter of survival to him. Even if it meant betraying Greece.
However, some Spartans located him several years later and put him to the sword.
anthonydefex The Film 300 was based on the Legend told by the Greeks. That's why Xerxes looked Weird, and the Elephants,were huge Monsters !
"300" were chosen to remain BEHIND as a GESTURE, as much for Spartan pride as to set an example.
And these "300" were chosen not only with born sons to carry on their name, but from families that would celebrate their demise for the glorification of Sparta, rather than public displays of grief for what most Greeks would consider a pointless death.
And this last stand was brought about by the Greek goat herder Ephialtes and his local knowledge of the Anopea trail, a goat path that he used. Ephialtes guided a picked force of Immortals to the rear of the Greek position, and then promptly demanded payment for his services, which so incensed the Immortals commander on the spot that he ran him through with his sword for his troubles.
All this is quite well known.
The Spartan courage has never been doubted but it's always the same old story-- the 300 Spartans.I know this video has mentioned the thousands of others but generally they don't get a mention.It's surely about time the story was amended to give the other Greeks proper recognition.I'm no history buff & maybe I've misread things but I think the 'headlines' re the Spartans needs sorting.
"Go tell the Spartans, passerby, that here by Spartan law we lie."
What game is this video made from?
@@Saint300Sparta Rome 2 total war
did you use total war movie clips to make this video?
Yes
La Construccion de un puente de barcos. Para atravesar el Hesponto. Es todo un trabajo de ingenieria.
The death of Leonidas and his men was not in vain
@@carloshenriquebins5113 they literally died because of their pride.