This Tech COULD Save Your LIFE! (But Probably Won't...) | INNOVV Thirdeye Review
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Im going to cover my bike in these and teach blind kids to ride.
😂🤣😂
Dont forget the curb feelers too
@@ryansorkness7396 You mean pedestrians?
Make us proud corgi dude
The corn to humor ratio is on point!
Hot tip: If you ride in an area where always on headlights is mandatory, the headlight bulb connector is an easy & convenient place to wire things up, especially if your bike runs halogens & you've switched to LED's.
I've had a few situations on the highway where someone has whizzed past & scared the crap out of me, where this would have been an appreciated warning, but it happens so infrequently that I wouldn't drop the cash on it. Where I can see a huge market though is for newer riders. They tend to ride lower powered (slower) motorcycles & have a lot less riding experience. This could save lives in that group & is definitely worth the price of entry.
Yeah, after I edited this, I realized you could tie it to the running brake light... kinda dumb to say it could only go to the ignition.
@@spitescorner What is a running brake light? 😁
You can also use the "option" connector. This "option" connector is a label in the Honda wiring diagrams, normally for the OE alarm.
Getting to what Punch stated about mandatory headlights - only fools, idiots and narcassists ride/drive without lights - CWOLs.... Cnts WithOut Lights. (Especially where the weather is normally grey)
@@spitescorner I'm in the armchair watching the video. You're the one trying to install it while keeping it as pristine as possible for the next owner while recording a video. Who's got the easier job of figuring out where to wire it? 😂 And yet you still picked the 2 wiring options that work on every motorcycle world wide. Every other option comes with caveats.
One thing i appreciate about modern riders is they embrace security instead of the posturing that says gear is for cowards. I've got a Tuono V4 and for me it's ATGATT. As far as I'm concerned, blind spot detection is more gear, and well worth it, even if i can just turn my head.
A little extra safety is always worth it
blind spot notification should be mandatory to all cars.
Wish this gear was available easier in Thailand - would help a lot with the wild drivers here.
alarm fatigue is real. that beeping would get old so fast.
My biggest issues with Texas drivers is no turn signals(at corners or lane changes), cutting their left turns so tight that they're on the the wrong side of the road, and driving with no lights at night.
awesome to see you giving a honest opinion on a product sent to you, i hope we do see this on new bikes at some point it would be a great additional feature but as you said nothing replaces the head check i always do that no matter what just get in the habbit of it and you dont even really think about it you always look
Currently atleast Tiger 1200 GT Pro and Rally pro(edit: after some thought i think it is the explorer versions not Pro ones) has blindside monitoring.
I like the sound of the mirror version as with arthritis i can only turn my head 90° left or right. I would make for a good safety back up, just in case i miss something.
Nice review. As a rider that cant fully twist around to see behind me due to a back surgery, this is a perfect compliment to my limited visual scanning. People pay $1000 for a name brand helmet, but poo poo spending $300 on a safety device. That's weird to me. As an ingineer, it would be very easy to modify this so that it only beeps when you have a turn signal on....just saying....😊
My neck is injured from the military and I have very limited range of motion which makes head checks somewhat sporty. For me this would be great supplement to using the mirrors and head checks.
The faster you go the more you're blind spot shrinks. If you go fast enough your blind spot disappears. You're welcome
Everyone slacking
You have come so far in such a short time sir. Outstanding.
Well, I guess this would be a good for someone who might have health issues and can’t easily turn their head enough to see that little “Blind spot” that can happen. I agree, it’s interesting but let’s see how the review goes.
I have an issue that I can't seem to combat where the bike/car drifts heavily over whenever I look over my shoulder so a solution would appeal but I would rather it be a visual solution rather than a thing beeping at me. Something like a really wide view additional mirror that lets me see if the blind-spot is empty or not and if it isn't then I will have to look. If that makes any sense.
Example of the lane change warning happens at 11:18 FYI
I think you hit the nail on the head with how it should function. It should be exactly like automotive OE, only beeping if you're signaling, lights in/on the mirrors, ect. I personally would not be interested in the exact model you showed here because of this. I think that in order to have the level of integration that we are talking about, it would be extremely cost prohibitive. For an aftermarket add on, you're talking power and ground(however you choose to do that), wires to the warning lights, wires to the actual sensor, wire to a buzzer if applicable, and then even more signal wires at least to the turn signals or possible the turn signal switch, all going to a brain box that could determine everything it needs to do already PLUS figure out whether it should beep or not depending on your turn signal input. I also think like cars, it will be something that becomes standard equipment on certain before long, and not offered on others. We will probably see it on a Honda Goldwing or similar first.
Agree with your assessment. The beeping would drive me insane after the first day. Just a yellow light on appropriate mirror just like cars would be ideal. I'll still head check every time, but having redundancies never hurts.
It's not like the device itself had a "sound" button...hummm I wonder what it would do if I'd press it...
When you press the horn sign on the watch display, the buzzer sound can be turned off.
In all honesty - I don't use my mirrors much. When I'm looking in my mirrors or turning my head, I'm taking my eyes off what is happening on the road in front of me. This is why I ride 10-15 faster than traffic. It enables me to know where people are at without having to constantly turn and look.
I love INNOVV products! I live in Thailand. Motorcycle drivers are reckless and crazy! They cause my car proximity alarms to beep ALL THE TIME. PS. You can turn off the beep by simply pressing the symbol on the display.
When it comes to wiring in accessories, one tip I was given; connect into the horn circuit. It’s easier to get into and is tied to the ignition so won’t drain the battery. I do it with heated grips.
As for the monitor. initially I was skeptical but as a retrofit item to mimic monitors in cars, I think it looks decent, as long as riders use it as an aid.
Honestly I would want to be able to disable the beep, and just have it light up.
Generally I’m pretty good at knowing what’s around me, but just occasionally on a busy commute or a day where I’m off form, having a little help could be handy.
Fair play to Innovv, they obviously have confidence in the product to send it Spite knowing he’ll speak his opinion.
Regarding the connection of the power supply, please connect the red cable to ACC (key), and connect the black cable to the negatrive pole of the motorcycle battery to decrease the power consumption, the voltage must be kept between 9V and 16V. When you press the horn sign on the watch display, the sound can be turned off.
Am Sooooo stealing this idea.
Thanks!
Lifesaver!
What about the squids who remove their rear-view mirrors, because STYLE?
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Seeing the Metro shirt made me so happy! Love that place. Was just there the other night. Many great nights and shows there.
I believe you can turn OFF the beeping alarms by simply pushing the "Mute" button on the display. Alas, you have to do this every time you start the bike. Thanks for the video!
I really liked the blind spot monitor on the Triumph 1200 Tiger I test rode. It was great!
Just a wiring tip you can get fuse wire taps so you can install it on a ignition fuse and have a non permanent wire that switches with your ignition
This definitely needs to be on the mirrors and tied into turn signals... but no blind spot monitors (even in cars) should replace a head check...
Good idea. But not polished enough for me. I would want some sort of plug and play. Auto off when bike is off. And possibly a plug in connector that’s bike specific.
Glad you made the comparison to automotive systems. That's the right way to do it.
I find this product interest. While I do head check for every lane change, as someone who tracks where vehicles around me are at all times I think this products benefit helps for when cars disappear out of your mirror and into your blind spot.
Nice one Spite. Thank you. I was pleased and pleasantly surprised when cars started fitting these. I think it’s worth the coin however I will just wait until these become mainstream like how ABS is now with bikes.
There is already a blindspot monitor built into every single motorcycle. It's called turning your head.
Ubiquitous one day? I'd be surprised. I feel like there are some who would benefit from it. I'd just find it annoying. I do like the idea of the mirror mounted lights.
I feel the same about these that I do for the self-cancelling indicators on my new bike: I wish they weren't there because unless I have them on all my bikes, having them in one bike generates bad habits when I'm on a bike without the feature. No matter how good this is, I'm never going to not do a head check, and in the noisy environment of a motorcycle on an expressway, I just don't see the use. In a car it's a bit different since it's easy for the device to get your attention via noises, and when built in to cars it can even buzz the steering wheel to warn you if you start to change lanes (via either turn signal or camera lane assist) and there's a car in the lane you're moving in to.
No, I was tired of the beeping before the video was over. I’m not worried about my blind spot being handled by tech. I’ll check it myself. If this was just a rear collision indicator that did some math to calculate an approaching vehicle right behind me at a rate of speed it’s going to hit me I’d consider it.
Inovv makes some solid stuff, I had their K3 camera system on a previous bike on mine and have nothing but positive things to say
I believe you can switch the beeper off if you wish. There is a switch on the face of the watch version as well as on the LH LED module of the mirror version.
Agreed Spite, Innovv Should have a mirror kit for various MC brands where the warning lights are incorporated into the mirror frame,.... and only beep at yur butt when you start signalling and another vehicle is approaching too closely at your 5 or 7 o'clock , making you double check before you move over.
Seems like a cool thing to look forward to in a couple years, also i just saw an avatar shirt in a old video, sick music taste 😈
I don't think you will see much adoption on the aftermarket, but selling directly to the manufacturer....that's where they will find their win.
You hit the nail on the head though with the performance criticism. The device needs to perform like systems found in modern cars, to include warning lights in the mirrors
How sensitive is it to bikes and bicycles? It's usually bikes that give me the biggest surprise and I remember sitting at lights with my indicator on about 1meter from the curb waiting to turn then when the lights went green, a bicycle shot up the inside right into the path I was about to turn. Given that I was 1 meter from the curb you don't expect people to pass in this gap. One of these could've been great for this but I doubt they pick up bikes and bicycles.
(For the record I was chilling that day and didn't set off on the light change so nothing happened but if I'd been in a hurry, the two of us would've been in all sorts of trouble).
yeah, i think the mirror version is better...but head checks are the best
Mirror mounted option, so you can get the information through your peripheral vision really feels like the superior choice, last thing you would want is taking your attention off the road and end up rear ending someone.
I have had a few instances where drivers performed an overtake on the same lane, creeping up and squeezing me to the side strip. But it happens so quickly I doubt you would get much benefit in such situations.
The built in ones that ducati multistrada and triumph tiger have are really nice. That thing looks like an eyesore
I guess it could make sense if you have a limited range of motion. I have arthritis that flares up in my sternum sometimes and I have trouble turning all the way around, my bar end mirrors are pretty good and I don't have any blind spots
I had little round convex mirrors that came on my first car and on my old Ducati. Got used to never having a blind spot.
Spite, try out the 8:21 Puig tinted windscreen. It’s 3 inches taller than the stock, but did wonders for me. Of course at 5’10 I’m a bit shorter tan you so your results may vary. Keep up the great content and I’ll keep watching 👍
I see them built into the mirrors in the future,
Would love to see more testing of the direct rear sensor at a stop light. That's what gives me the most anxiety and I compulsively check my mirrors until a car pulls up. Though I'd imagine it still wouldn't have enough range for me to react to anything going over 15mph.
I saw something on Revzilla about these side mirrors that where so tiny, but the manufacturer claimed they added downforce, like 8lbs or less at around 183mph. But only and ONLY if I folded them down into "aero mode" which basically meant they were no longer even mirrors. Yours only for about over $100 I can't remember how much they were.
I can get more downforce if I flare my elbows out
BUT THE DOWNFORCE THO
If the alert tone isn’t a sound byte from
Semi-Charmed Life it’s not worth it
Hey Spite, thanks for the product review. Personally I would prefer an orange led in the mirror. I think the buzzer would drive me nuts. If it’s available in Australia I’m guessing it would be in the $350 - $400 price range which would be too much for me to spend. Love your channel 🇦🇺
When you press the horn sign on the watch display, the buzzer sound can be turned off.
@@INNOVVDashCam oh ok. That’s a good feature then. Thanks.
Short answer: it’s not worth $300 bones.
Got the mirror version. Love it.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that a ‘bolt on blind spot detector’ is call a mirror. Or just turn your head about 15 degrees to either side.
Me with my factory built in system feeling some validation and also being humbled at the same time.
The reason these are on cars, and as you say will be mandatory on bikes is because people don't do head checks. I see it every day in my job. Unfortunately we are getting lazier, and more dependent on technology.
I like this type of tech review. I'm a sucker for gadgets and while I wouldn't get this thing specifically for the reasons you already mentioned, I'm sure there's someone else out there who'd like this type of thing.
Hey Spite, i have an idea. How about you try out one of those helmet HUDs that are mounted just above your eye. Dvision makes one that I've been eyeballing for a while but i'm sure there's others out there too. Do you think you could get your hands on one of those?
Then you get used to it, rely on it, and in the end it breaks and ceases to warn you... Well that would happen only once.
I think if they can standardize this tech on super sports, you'll see less squids crashing into other squids, when they're doing unnannounced highway pulls/wheelies through the squid pack.
Rearview camera seems to work better imo. Can also replace the mirrors and is visible from any riding position.
Yeah I tend to agree, this system for motorcycles can be just as great as for cars! I get why they made this to be more safe for motorcycles or cyclists in general.
Which huge kudos to them for looking out.
But also for cars who have this option, I am thrown to the side of unnecessary options along with many others.
However they might be safe(r)(ish) and raise awareness nothing beats just looking over your shoulder.
These features added make driving or riding more autonomous so less awareness and more of the lazy drivers or riders.
Cause they be like: "i've got the system looking for me, so I don't have to look anymore". Which is dangerous in my opinion.
Like you said you might tune the sound and/or light out at some point so you won't notice it anymore and just go when you switch lanes or take a turn and then hit someone, because you didn't look. Sure it's an "if" scenario but maybe also a "when" scenario. Best is just keep looking out even with the all the tech options nowadays.
please turn this into a series, silly/good/badddd small mods for bikes
Saw the Chicago shirt and now I kinda want you to go hang with Brian636 and learn some lot riding, that would be a great video. I saw he was kinda upset about something you or yam said about stunt riders or something and I’m pretty sure he invited you to actually go see what they do and actually talk to some of those guys. At least an interview and “ride along” with some of them would be some great content, and could help bring a good chunk of the Moto community to the channel as well as maybe opening the eyes of some people who don’t understand why those guys do what they do.
Interesting product, way too expensive, though.
A mirror extender is $30 and it does absolute wonders to make stock mirrors feel better. For the rest there's the head check.
It can't take over for any of your awareness checks, but it does no harm to double check
I would send the company any feedback you have for improvement or what you think is working, if they are trying to make a good product they will listen to you, if they are just looking for a pat on the back from an influencer, they will probably do nothing or even get combative. This could be useful info on future products this company might produce or they may even look to you for market research down the road to make better products for riders, I am speaking from experience with companies where I have made suggestions and directly targeted the company, I have done this on amazon and some companies have been super responsive. I have a few now that reach out to me when doing market research, and while money does not change hands, i have gotten products to test out and give feedback on, in some cases multiple versions as enhancements have been made.
I'd be interested in the mirror mounted setup, except I wouldn't want any beeps. The beeps getting annoying. I like the setup that most cars use, yellow warning light imbedded in the glass. Not to say I'd spend money on it, but I can definitely see the appeal/novelty of it.
i personally hate these blind spot beeper things, makes people more complacent with not looking. and when i drive a car that has it it freaks out for no reason and is more distracting than any form of helpful
I'd recommend a fuse tap. That way you can find a fuse that turns on/off with the key.
Since it works it seems like a good idea if you want it, but I can think of exactly 0 times I was about to change lanes into another vehicle while I was on a bike.
Your point at the end about it being the same tech on cars is accurate. So many modern cars have the little light on the mirror because so many drivers don't shoulder check either like taught in driver's ed. I think a mirror mounted version of this will become common and accepted within a decade if/when the law mandates it.
First time I drove a newer car it vibrated the side of my seat when someone was in my blindspot. Scared the crap out me for a sec and I immediately turned that off. Lights and beeps are fine but the aggressive butt rattle is super weird.
Guessing it gets maddening driving in traffic with cars always beside you
I've had it in cars and I have it on a motorcycle and I am not sure why or how to even begin to combat it but whenever I look behind me in a blindspot I drift the vehicle in that direction. It is really concerning and a hardware solution is never really something I put a lot of thought into and this really just further pushes me towards "try to be better". If the thing just beeps at me I don't really know what I should be thinking about even if I could hear it with all the noise + earplugs. If I were to go for some kind of solution it would be an additional mirror or something that capture a massive field of view. Not to avoid looking behind me but rather just to know if something at all is there and if I need to check how far away it is.
Blind spot monitor for a motorcycle. Just one question. WHAT BLIND SPOT???
The place you can't see in your peripheral vision but also isn't in the field of view of your mirrors. It most certainly exists on motorcycles and is why you should always head check first. Can't count the number of times when my mirrors looked clear but turn my head and there's someone there.
@@nordic-chan its a joke
Hay Spike will it work on a snow track dirt bike?
It is already available on stock bikes. The new Triumph Tiger has it, and it's integrates at the mirrors. Seems like it works as in cars.
True, although Triumph only offers them in its top-spec Explorer trim.
----Spite's Corner---- You should of Got one of Your'(Significant-Other or Best-Friend) to ride Up on You to test out the Beeping Sounds, Or the way it works. Good Review, I might Get One If I Ever get to ride again, {NO LISENSE ! ! !}
2:55-2:59
“If you don’t compulsively horde bolts and nuts from previous projects…” you’re wrong.
I'm surprised Goldwings don't have BSM already
My problem is the complacency it could cause. The one time the sensor doesn't detect a car and you don't shoulder check is all it takes....
I would find this useful without the beeping on the mirrors like on the 22 ducati multistrada. I'm blind in my right eye so the more situational awareness the better. I'm hoping someone makes one that won't look like ass and does not beep
I’m not sure about the monitor myself. I am how ever curious about the bike, I’m thinking about buy a Hyperstrada. Would like to know opinions on it
Question does your headlight turn off with the ignition
Might be good for baggers backing out between 2 vans.
I wonder if it could be wired to the turn signals so it only comes on when you signal a lane change
I unsubscribed yammie and subbed your channel. Keep up the great work!
I am recently blind in my left eye and very interested in this
Your biggest issue with it could have been resolved if you read the manual. The beep can be turned off.
Do a video about airbag vests
Hey spite, give your Strada a nice exhaust polish. Kidding top tier Videos! :^)
The strada needs a bath. All my bikes do lol
I'm wondering if the lane change assist you mentioned needs to be wired to the turn signals the same as your Mazada, and maybe you missed it in the directions?
There's only two wires. Power and ground
Bruh, I really wish I had all this passion. Ever since my 2 boys came into the world, I've just been riding less and less. Fearing for my own life, and just simply not wanting to risk injuries since I know my future lies in my children. It's really nice to see you do these videos and reviews man. It's fun, and interesting. Once my kids grow up, I'll finally get back on that saddle and have some fun again. Until the, I'll be depending on youtubers like yourself to keep up the entertainment 🤜💪🙏
You're doing good bruh. Got to raise those kids right. Raising two boys is hard business, gotta stay focused. Get a 125cc scooter and have a little fun. I have a Zuma along with my MT07 and it's a great little piece of kit. High powered scooter my man. Im 45 years old ain't no shame in riding a scooter. It just has to move
@@257796 Definitely refreshing to get a 2nd opinion 👍🤜 I’m 38 and if I’m being real, these old bones just don’t recover like they used to in my 20’s 🤣🤣🤣
@@Q_N- just to be the annoying booger with a counter point: supermoto trackdays at local kart tracks. It's usually less than $100 to run these. To avoid spending too much, you can run a dual sport with road-biased tires and have a great time without a fancy sumo bike.
As for the danger aspect, I wont say nobody ever got hurt doing this but it is rare. Turns out people get hurt way less when the fastest you can go is ~60mph (if you're pushing it).
@@thesuzukimethod I live in AZ, and around my area we’ve only got 2 Motorsport tracks. One of which I frequent in the past. Nowadays they rarely run motorcycle events. And admission has gone up. I’ve already taken such ideas into account, most of which are either far too tedious or time consuming. Until my boys get to about age 12 or so, I’m stuck. Currently I’m teaching my 5yo how to ride an electric scooter and it’s fairing well. My biggest hope is that he’ll get used to riding and I can buy him a from around age 10 and have him practice on that. Then I can go to the dirt track with him for some father son shenanigans. Still a far away dream though 🤣🤣🤣
@@Q_N- im 45
I ride in and around London UK and something like this would be a help, but not for that price….yet…
a question for the community, which mount do you use on your bike??
Metro shirt,,,no kidding if ya ever ride out to Chicago ya gotta stop in at Cigars and Stripes BBQ motorcycles welcome her on Route66 😊
Man, how's it going to be? This seems like it might be handy in a motorcycle drive by, or when you're blinded. If it works well though, I want you to know this will help you graduate from losing a whole year or becoming a burning man. Hell, maybe you'll have a semi-charmed life, good for you and thanks a lot. Was an entertaining video that avoided my narcolepsy without needing to become a jumper.
uhm, London, The background and God of Wine... I tried, but just couldn't fit those in.
I wasn't going to watch this but then I saw his Metro t-shirt.
Another company solving a problem that doesn’t exist 🥴